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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Friday,
A magnificent Friday. I am backing in the chair. I
missed you dearly and I'm thrilled to be here on
an ask doctor Jesse Friday. I hope you survived today

(00:25):
without me. I was at the Megan Kelly Tours speaking
thing last night. I'll talk about that in a little while,
but for now, you know what time it is. We
have so many questions. We're gonna talk about this White
House remodel that they're trying to make a thing of
right off the bet I'll talk about that briefly. A
color revolution? What is it? Are we living through one

(00:46):
right now? These totalitarian regimes? Are they better at making things?
I'll talk briefly about the Mafia story, the mafia, NBA
rigging things? And billionaires? Do we have? I have too many?
Is it unfair? All that? So much more coming up
tonight on the world famous Jesse Kelly's Show. So let's

(01:09):
begin here. Your questions were amazing. It's awesome. But I
know you've heard on the television. I know you've seen
it on social media, people making a big deal about
Donald Trump tearing down part of the White House complex
and building a ballroom. I have this email, Jesse, I

(01:31):
have many like this. Jesse. Is the left upset at
Trump for remodeling the the White House without their input,
so on and so forth. Okay, so first of all,
I guess I will tell you a little something about
last night, because it just makes sense to tell you
about it right now. Something kind of cool. After the event,
you know, it was Megan Kelly, it was me. It

(01:52):
was Don Junior speaking at the event. After the event,
Megan sat out the word to us too, and she said, hey,
let's get together afterwards. Let's eat some cheese and crackers,
break some bread for an hour to just talk talk
about life. So it's just Megan, her husband, Don, his woman,
me and ib And that was it. It was just
us six and we get together at this place and

(02:14):
Don Junior starts actually talking about this White House ballroom thing.
He actually starts talking about his father, Donald Trump, the
President of the United States of America. Now, maybe you're
a Trump hater or lover. I don't care, None of
that matters, but it was fascinating to listen to this.
This aspect of it something you may realize but may

(02:36):
not Trump. He gets a bunch of his grandkids with
Don Junior, and they go on this big overseas flight.
I forget which one it was. He's done so many
where he was closing a trade deal and signing a
big agreement and whatever. But the grandkids came along. It
was a grueling day, grueling day. Many of these grandkids

(02:57):
are young. They get back from this thing after eight
nine hours of travel and as you can imagine, they're kids,
they're not involved in politics. It's exhausting. They're done. They
want to go home, they want to go to sleep.
Donald Trump, Grandpa Donald Trump, says no, no, no, no, come on,
come on, you gotta come with me. I have something

(03:17):
so cool I want to show you. He brings them
all to the White House, brings them in the Oval Office,
and he starts to show them every little portrait or
trinket or thing like that that's in the Oval Office,

(03:37):
discussing with these very bored grandkids who are not into it,
discussing the intricacy of it, the history of it. Did
you know that Andrew Jackson did this? Did you know
that this is part of what the Reagan Deal? Did
you know this was cool? What he knows everything about
every part of it, is so interesting, has such as

(04:00):
for all of it, and he's so geeking out on it.
He doesn't care that the grand kids are cash and
they just want to go home and put their pajamas on. No, no, no, no, no,
you sit there. This is super cool. Trust me, you're
gonna think it's cool. And of course they don't. You know,
they're tired. But no, no, no, you have to hear.
Do you want to hear where this uh, this bust
came from. Donald Trump has a deep reverence for the

(04:27):
Office of the Presidency, for the White House itself, and
for the United States of America itself. Whatever problems you
may have from time to time with the man, or
I may have from time to time with the man,
he has a deep, deep reverence for this place. And
this is long before he got into politics. There's all

(04:47):
kinds of video. You can hear the way he talks
about America. For him, and for me and probably for you,
America is special. It is It is unique. It is special,
and it should look special. It should be special. It
should be something where people look at it, every aspect

(05:09):
of it, and they should say whoa right now? What's
a huge story across the country, National Guard, ice, FBI,
all these different federal groups going into different cities. Filthy
crime in cities. It's a big story. Do you want
to know part of why Donald Trump is doing this? Yes,
big part of it's about illegal immigration and drugs, things

(05:29):
like that. Donald Trump is mortified, embarrassed that are cities
which should be shining wonderful examples of America, that our
cities are disgusting. He thinks it's horrid. He's as an
American and you and I've talked about this before. Cities

(05:52):
are on the billboard of your country. You know, as
much as I love Bozeman, Montana, where I grew up,
you know what's not on the billboard from for the
United States of America, in Germany somewhere. It's not Bozeman.
It's New York City. He's mortified. Billboards are gross, they smell,
They're full of violence, in illegals and drugs and scum. Mortified,

(06:16):
and he's trying to do what he can to fix it.
So the White House Ballroom we host people, we host
dignitaries from all over the world. You've seen them, You've
seen it on the news. People, the Kings, doesn't matter
who it is. From across the world. They will come,
most of them, and in some way, at some point
in time, they will show up and they will pay

(06:39):
homage to the United States of America. They will meet
the American president President, they will sit in the Oval Office,
be able to work out a deal. Maybe it's just
a photo op, but they will come. We can't have
a nice ballroom. Let me clarify, we don't even have
a nice ballroom to put on events. I'm talking about

(07:01):
the kind of ballroom you see in the movies. I
don't know that I've ever been in one, but you
see them in the movies, the kind of ballroom where
you walk in and you go, oh my gosh, is
that real gold on the ceiling. We don't even have that.
And we're the United States of America. So what's he doing.

(07:22):
He is privately funding, I should point out, no matter
how much they lie to you, he is privately funding.
He got private people to fund it, privately funding a
ballroom that holds Get this, I found this out last night.
Six thousand people seating for six thousand people. I can't
even imagine what a ballroom that size would look like.

(07:43):
I don't think I've ever been in anything or even
seen anything like that. It's going to be huge, gorgeous
and for years and years and years when Donald Trump
is dead and gone, when I'm dead and gone for decades,
four indignitaries will show up for big events held on
the White House grounds and they will walk in and go, wow,

(08:06):
this is really cool. Now. To answer your question, why
are the communists so upset by it? There are two reasons.
The first, they have to react that way to everything
Trump does. Remember, Donald Trump has been turned into the
Nazi anti Christ in their mind. If Donald Trump scooped

(08:27):
a sick, dying puppy off the highway and brought it
back and personally nursed it to health, they would find
a way to say that it's the worst thing in
the history of the world. That's part of it. But
another part of it is this, what do we discussed
when we discuss the religion of communism? What kind of
religion is it? What is it? A religion of what destruction?

(08:50):
They're destroyers. It's about destroying everything good. Some things are
the American family must be destroyed. Sometimes it's a beautiful
statue must be destroyed. Maybe it's a beautiful business it
must be destroyed. Maybe it's simple beauty, individual individual beauty.
That's why they'll take your beautiful eighteen year old daughter,

(09:12):
you send her off to college, and they'll tell her
to gain two hundred pounds and shave half her head
and get a bunch of rings in her face. It's
about destroying everything good. So now think like think like
a communist for a brief moment. Then we're going to
move on. There's too many good questions. Think like a communist.
You're a communist. You're trying to destroy everything wonderful, beautiful

(09:34):
and good, certainly everything in America. And you find out
there's going to be a six thousand person gilded ballroom
that people will enjoy for decades. Does that make you happy?
But does that make you angry? What if the eighteen
year old daughter of yours that they managed to pack
on the pounds and get her to dyre hair purple?

(09:56):
What if she got fit again, happy, got a boyfriend,
she smiled a lot, Now she's going to church. You
think that would make communists happy or that would make
them sad. That's how they feel about the prospect of
a beautiful ballroom people will enjoy forever. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent, magnificent Friday. So happy

(10:18):
to be back here. Remember you can email a show,
of course, Jesse at Jesse Kellyshow dot com if you're
just now tuning in. Fridays are a little different on
the Jesse Kelly Show. I mean, I guess it's fairly
similar to the rest of the week, but Fridays all
three hours. I answer the questions you email into Jesse
at Jesse kellyshow dot com. It's not lame and pathetic

(10:40):
like a lot of that grab bag stuff is. We
make sure we try to do a good job for
you as best we can here on the Jesse Kelly Show.
Now that was the White House ballroom kerfuffle stuff they're doing.
I wanted to touch on this before I go to Color Revolutions.
I wanted to touch on this story because I was
gone yesterday. I'm not going to go into detail hills
of it, but the Mafia Professional Sports NBA story. This

(11:06):
guy says Jesse. Now that we know the Mafia has
been involved in rigging card games, might this explain how
Governor Pritzker won one point four million dollars. Okay, so
first let's address Governor Pritzker of Illinois. You know who
he is. Obviously, you've seen his big, fat, dumb face
all over the television set, lying every single chance he

(11:28):
gets about how bad crime is in Illinois and Chicago.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Governor pritze why does Chicago have the highest murder rate
of all the big cities.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Well, we are not in the top thirty in terms
of our murder rate and rate. Our murder rate has
been cut in half over the last four years, and
every year it's gone down by double digits. And if
you look at all of the violent crime over the
last four years, we've all gone to US cities seventeen
point forty seven per one hundred thousand population.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Chicago's number one over Philip Yeah. Anyway, you also probably
know by now that he wants to be president of
the United States of America. That is a big reason
why you have seen Governor Pritzker's fat, stupid face on
the television way more in the last six months or
so than you ever did before. Frankly, unless you're hyper

(12:18):
hyper political, which I realize you may be, but you
probably didn't really know Governor Pritzker even know of Governor Pritzker.
Who knows governors that much? You know a few, but
you don't know that many. Why is he all of
a sudden all over the television set threatening ice agent
Donald Trump's a dictator all that stupid stuff. Well, he's
running for president. He's going to run in that Democrat
primary to be president of the United States of America.

(12:40):
You already know that. Something you may not know about
Governor Pritzker is he is a I believe a billionaire Chris.
If he's not a billionaire, I think he's very close.
I think he's a billionaire uber uber wealthy. So as
much as I would love to crush him for declaring
one point four million dollars in winnings in gambling winnings,
I think it was in Las Vegas, if I remember

(13:01):
the story right. As much as I would love to
say it's criminal, let me clarify why it's probably not. So.
There's a world that I've never lived in and you'll
probably never live in, to be honest with you, and
I don't have any desire to live in it, but
I have learned of it. And there's this it's this

(13:22):
ultra world of billionaires in uber uber wealthy people. You know,
I told you I've been to Las Vegas a few times.
I've gambled before. I'm not really a gambler. I don't
care for it. When I lose money, it makes my
throat fill up with battery acid. I just cannot do it.
So I might throw five bucks on a game with
a friend, but not a gambler. I've seen gambling ruin

(13:45):
people's lives. I'm just not a gambling I don't like gambling,
not big on it. I'll do it, not big on.
And if I ever do do it, you know, if
aub and I end up at some hotel and we'll
go down and maybe see a blackjack table, and we
try to find the ten dollars, a ham, five dollars,
a hand table, the same one you play, pull out
fifty bucks, one hundred bucks, You gamble it, when it's gone,

(14:06):
you walk away. That's that's how we try to do it.
I'm not that guy, but there are I know this
for a fact, there are secret gambling rooms in Las
Vegas casinos that you will never see, and I will

(14:26):
never see. It doesn't matter how many phone calls they make,
how many strings I try to pull. I will never
even lay eyes on them. Regular people will never lay
eyes on them. And what's more, you will probably never
lay eyes on the people who gamble in them. I'm
talking about secret entrances from underground garages where the paparazzi

(14:49):
can't see you, where you are whisked away through very
very posh corridors in the bowels of a Las Vegas hotel,
and you walk in to the most beautiful little gambling
room possible, and the only people in there are the
white staff, who are sworn to secrecy under pain of death,

(15:09):
and they have to hire the most strict NDAs, and
the history of mankind. You can't believe the things they
make these people sign. You're not allowed to go home
to your wife and say, hey, honey, Governor Pritzker was
in tonight, or you lose everything. It's understood. And this
is where Michael Jordan gambles. And this is where guys
like Pritzker gamble. They're not out there at the five

(15:29):
dollars blackjack table with you and me. They're not pulling
slots or whatever. Those are the slots right that the
things I've never actually played there, they're not pulling slots.
They are in a private place in the same building
technically you are. But they don't gamble like you, and
they don't gamble like me. I realize I don't gamble much,

(15:49):
But do you understand what I'm saying? And for a
guy like Pritzker, a billionaire, if you were to tell
me that in one night he lost ten million dollars,
I would say, oh yeah, let's see that. And if
you were to tell me in one night he won
five million dollars, I will tell you the exact same thing.

(16:12):
Oh yeah, I can see that when normal people here
one point four million dollars he won that gambling. That
must be corrupt. It's a totally understandable reaction. But there, Yeah,
Chris said one or two hands. It really is. Honestly,
when I heard that, I thought, oh billionaire, Yeah, all right,

(16:34):
he had he hit it big at the end, he
had one great he had a great hand or two
walked away from the tables. It is the Jesse Kelly
Show on a Friday. Getting right back into it here,
let's talk about this mafia rigging card games story. And
I'm not going to get into any specifics so they
don't care about the NBA, and I don't care about

(16:55):
any of that. But what I do care about is
crime and society and warg and I crime and Look,
I'll be honest with you. I'm not gonna speak for women,
but I will speak for every single dude listening to
the sound of my voice, every dude listening to the
sound of my voice, who woke up yesterday and saw
a story or read a story about the Italian mafia

(17:18):
rigging NBA games or card games or whatever the headline
happened to say, whatever one you read, every single dude
to a man thought to himself, Oh that sounds kind
of cool. Let me explain men much more so than women. No,
we're not worse, but all men have this thing inside

(17:42):
of them, a rebellious streak inside of them. Maybe it's
small in you, maybe it's big in you. That it
just totally depends on so many things upbringing how God
created you. But all men we dream of this scenario,

(18:02):
society degrading to a point or you being pushed to
a point in some way where you throw caution to
the wind, you throw laws to the wind. You're not
obeying rules anymore, and you're gonna do whatever you wanna do,
come what may. That's why movies where somebody innocent gets

(18:25):
hurt or killed, the John Wick movies. You killed his
puppy and now he has no choice but to murder
three hundred people for it. That the dudes love movies
like that, and because of things like that, organized crime.
I'm working about the Italian mafia. The Italian mafia has
always had a fascination with the American male, and I

(18:46):
realize some women as well. You're telling me there's this
fairly secret group of men and they just do whatever
they want. They just commit crimes. There's no way, and
that's why there's so many movies about them. People are
fascinated by the lifestyle, fascinated by it, even if you

(19:10):
don't ever want to do it, right, I don't ever
want to do it. I don't ever want to be
one of those guys. I couldn't be one of those guys.
But even if you don't want to do it, here's
a little party that does. So we hear these things
that we're fascinated by. I'm not defending it at all,
because they are criminals and murderers and thieves, and it's terrible.
Please don't do it. But that's the fascination with it.

(19:31):
And that's why that story made so many headlines yesterday.
I know I wasn't on the edge. I was doing
the Megan Kelly thing, but that's why that thing got
so big yesterday. I will say, when we were on
the way to the Megan Kelly thing, I was driving.
You know, it's me ob and the boys. I took
the boys last night. We were on our way to
the Megan Kelly thing and it was away from our house,

(19:51):
so we were driving there. The boys brought it up
because the boys, of course all their friends in school
were talking about it. Dad, did you hear about the mob?
Dadd did you hear about this? Dad? What do you
think about that? So I'll just tell you the same
thing I told the boys. You can and should, frankly,
attack crime in your society. Crime is something that has

(20:12):
to be attacked. You have to go after it. You
have to arrest and prosecute and imprison criminals. Otherwise, the
criminals you don't arrest, they'll commit more crimes and worse crimes,
and society will go completely out of control as the
bad people overwhelm the good people. This is basic criminal justice.
You have to have a society that attacks criminals, which

(20:33):
is why Democrats don't. But we'll set that aside for now. However,
no matter how much time, no matter how many resources
you dedicate to attacking organized crime, the Italian mafia, it
will never ever ever be snuffed out completely because mankind

(20:56):
will always have a desire for things hasten not allowed
to have. Whatever that maybe it's illegal gambling, maybe, maybe
maybe it's drugs, Maybe choose your choose your vice. There
will always be a desire for it. As long as
there's a desire for it, there will be a market
for it. And as long as there is a market

(21:18):
for it, there will be men who find a way
to serve that market. Period, end of story. That is
what has kept all organized crime. It's not just Italians,
the Russians, the Mexicans, the Irish, that they're organized crime
groups everywhere. That is what has kept them alive forever
and will keep them alive for a long time. You're

(21:40):
just trying to make sure they don't get so big
and powerful they overwhelm you, and to get a little
bit darker, because there's there's some an ugly story that
we've talked about before here. Well, I'll go ahead and
play it. Tulsea Gabbert talked about it. This is not
going to be news to you. You've heard this before
about human trafficking.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Here the most insidious providing intelligence to the Mexican law
enforcement that led to the arrest of a CJNG cartel
affiliated baby trafficker called La Diablo. Her whole money making
operation was centered around luring pregnant women, performing illegal c sections,
harvesting organs, and selling newborn babies.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
You remember that story when we talked about it. It's Friday,
am in a great mood, so I don't want to
dwell on the horror of that. But what did she
just say? You took pregnant women, you lied to them
to get them to an undisclosed location where you then

(22:44):
cut their babies out of them, killed the women, and
harvested the organs, and then sold the babies off. How
could that happen more specifically for our purposes here, Why
would that even happen? Why would that happen organs and

(23:06):
babies because there's a market for it. That's why organs.
Organs are in demand as people around the globe have
failing ones, Now that the medical technology is available to
take your failing one and remove it from your body

(23:29):
and find a healthy one and put it in your body.
Now that that technology is available, people who don't want
to die, they would like to purchase one, And if
they have to purchase one on the black market, they
will purchase one. And babies, why are you taking a
woman's baby? What are you doing with the baby? There's

(23:54):
a market for that too. Do I need to remind
you what Brandon Darby came on show and told us
about that little market. I have cringed and winced many
times on this show as we've talked about whatever news
of the day there is, But I don't know that
I've ever winced as hard as I winced when Brandon Darby,

(24:14):
our cartel expert, sat right here and told us, Yeah,
gay couples are buying these babies in the United States
of America. I know this is I know this is ugly.
We're gonna move on, We're gonna talk about something else.
We'll talk about you. Honestly, I think I'll probably do
just a little bit of history here, just to get
us off of the ugliness, and just a little brief

(24:36):
history We're not gonna do a long one right now.
But as we talked about before, there is a dark,
dark world. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a
Fantastic Friday. Member. You can email the show you love,
your hate, your death threats Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
That was a lot of human trafficking in Oregon harvesting talk.

(25:00):
Let's get away from that. Let's talk about something, maybe
a little historical, maybe something to make you think, something
that makes me think. Jesse, your history on the bridge
over the River Kwai was interesting to me and a
reminder of the brutality of the Japanese the Japanese inflicted
on the POWs. One thing that uh I happened to

(25:21):
think about was I can understand now why so many
baby boomers don't buy Japanese products. However, Japanese products are
now generally better than most other products. It occurred to
me that the Germanic barbarians and Scandavian barbarians are now
also known for their engineering precision. Is this a coincidence

(25:42):
or can you think of other people who were militaristic
barbarians that are now great engineers. Any thoughts on why
or why not? All right, So let's have a talk,
maybe an ugly talk, maybe a wonderful time, but something
that I have thought about many times before as I

(26:04):
try to learn about history and military campaigns and societies
and their rise and their fall. And I guess the
best I can tell you is this, Let's take our morality,
our things, our thoughts on things like killing people. Let's
set that aside for a moment, just a moment, all right,

(26:25):
Believe me, I want you to pick it back up
in a moment. Just set that aside for a moment. Now.
Why let's let's let's approach this from this way. Why
is it that life expectancy today is so much longer
than it was in you know history? Why why is

(26:48):
it now? There was even in America in our early times?
In America, I believe the number is fifty percent of
babies would die at some point after birth, I think
within their first two years. I forget the exact metric,
but it was it was half. I know that's the number. Now,
that's that's very rare. I know what happens. That's very rare.
What why do we live so much longer now? Well?

(27:12):
Mankind itself We're not going to make this just about America.
Mankind itself has advanced. Mankind has advanced in a million
different ways technologically. One of the main drivers, in fact,
in that advancement is the availability of cheap energy. That is,
something that was not available in the past. Everything we

(27:34):
run by fire or even when steam was in advancement.
Now we have all these ways of energy, cheap affordable energy.
Even poor people have lights and air conditioning and refrigerators.
So mankind as a whole, as a whole, let's look
at everything as a whole has advanced. Okay, that's good.
It's good. We want to advance, don't we. Now how

(27:58):
how does mankind advance? Let's talk about Well, let's use someone.
I love the Sioux or the Lakota, Indians. I mean,
I like Indian tribes. I've always thought they were so cool.
I've always learned about them. I was the dork who
wanted to be the Indian when we played Cowboys and
Indians so much. So I like Indian tribes, Cherokees and

(28:20):
all of them. I just love them. So let's use
the Lakota. The soup. Now, they were lords of the plains,
great on horseback, and they were dominant over the other
Indian peoples in their area. Dominant, warlike, dominant and the
most powerful. Now if the Lakota, if they had been

(28:43):
able to keep their stranglehold on their area, would mankind
have advanced to a place where the average person lives
seventy years old? Now? No? Okay, okay? So how did
we get rid of the Lakota War? The more technologically

(29:10):
advanced power fought killed them and took what they had.
We conquered them. I made this about the Lakota because
I'm a fan, but we can make it about any
tribal peoples anywhere, not just in America. The tribe, the
less technologically advanced tribal people were conquered and killed, let's

(29:32):
be honest, conquered and killed by more advanced people. Now,
even people who are kind of on the fence about
things that kind of makes you win wins a little.
So doesn't it cringe you squirm in your seat? I
kind of? I mean, I really wish Australia hadn't. I mean,
I wish the Aborigines hadn't been crushed and slaughtered. And

(29:53):
maybe Caesar shouldn't have killed a million galls and maybe
it makes you squirm in your seat, Totally understandable. I'm
not saying and not saying otherwise. But if we're looking
at mankind as a whole, is conquest bad when generally

(30:14):
it is the more technologically advanced power who wins. Yes,
it is horrible for the people who are being conquered,
no question. And this is not necessarily a defensive conquest,
just a way to think about things from a real
thirty thousand foot view. Is conquest bad when mankind itself

(30:42):
advances people today, millions and millions, tens of millions of them.
They lead better lives, longer lives, more comfortable lives, tens
of millions. Let's be honest, billions of people live better
lives because because tribal peoples around the globe were conquered

(31:04):
by more technologically advanced powers. Kind of a survival of
the fittest thing. A pride of lions. Do you know
there's one male that leads a pride of lions. Did
you know that he's the one who gets to breed
with all the female lions, And did you know that
he has to fight, sometimes to the death the other

(31:25):
males in order to achieve that. You know who wins
in the end, the pride itself. You have stronger offspring,
and the leader, the protector of your tribe, is stronger.
The pride itself benefits in every way by the most
powerful male defeating and sometimes killing the less powerful male ugly,

(31:49):
of course, also probably for the best
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