Pete Hegseth on the Boat Strikes

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
A Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Tuesday,
and know what a tuesday it has been. Trump to
the big press conference today. I'm not going to play
a lot of that. But there are a couple things
from Pete hag set There a couple updates on that

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communist op. We will discuss all kinds of immigration talk.
We're gonna discuss institutional trust, institutions themselves a lot tonight
on the show. After that, we're gonna tackle everything from smartphones, venezuela,
left wing, dark money. I mean, my goodness, there's so
much to get to tonight. It's going to be a

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wonderful night on the Jesse Kelly Show. Now, before we
get into anything else, anything else, we talked last night.
You remember about communist ops and how they create them,
why they create them, and it was about the Pete
haig Seth killing the Narco terrorists on the drug boats.

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He ordered a second strike, and more than anything else,
we talked about how important it was that you and
I do not take part in them. We don't take
part in them. And it's not because we love or
hate the target of the communist op. We do not

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take part in them. Because we understand the communist only
has our worst interests at heart. He means us harm.
He wants to hurt you and hurt me and hurt
our country. Therefore, whatever he's doing is bad and I

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should not participate in it. You you don't ever want
to be Lisa Murkowski of a Last Shocked Us All armed.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
And I think most would say that when you have
two individuals that are literally floating in the water, a
second order to kill them all is not something that
we would consider within the within the rules of water, you.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Don't do what Lisa Murkowski did. And today I almost
can't believe I'm saying this, but the New York Times
printed an article that pretty much put the whole thing
to bed. I'm not going to read it all for you.
Long story short. When your liberal and Peggy strolls into

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the Christmas party a week from now and she starts
talking about how Pete hag Seth ordered Sealed Team six
to shoot drug dealers in the head as they were
floating in the water, just know that all that's already
been shot down. A second strike is the most normal
thing in the world, meaning you nuke the boat if

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the boat is still intact or still moving. You nuke
it again, you send another drone, you send another whatever
you use to get it. You do it again and
again and again until it's gone. There was no executing
prisoners as they're bobbing in the ocean. You didn't take
part in the communist op. And for that I want

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you to reach your arm over your shoulder and give
yourself a nice pat on the back if you want.
You could even text a friend let them know you're
not a moron. You're not part of the low TGP.
You recognize the communist op for what it was. You

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refused to participate, and twenty four hours later the lie's
been defeated. Pete Hegsath was asked about it today during
this big press Compey.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Just begun striking Narco boats and putting Narco Terrace at
the bottom of the ocean.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
That is how you answer those questions as well. Now
I understand based on my emails, you have many, many
questions and concerns about things like war in Venezuela, and actually,
in kind of an odd DUC move with everything else
we have to get to, I want to answer some
of those just so we can clear this up and
move on and talk about institutions and institutional trusts. For instance,

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this lady said, I'm confused about what constitutes a war crime.
And she goes on says a bunch of other things,
and she says, how is it when the Trump military
tries to do something make sure the enemy is killed,
it's called a war crime instead of heroism. So let's
discuss the idea of war crimes. I think I think

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maybe we should nail this down to it to its
most basic form. First of all, do you believe it
would be rules in more? Now? I see it's a
hard question to answer right away. Right instinctively, you want
to say yes, well, of course there should be rules

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of war. You shouldn't do this, you shouldn't do that.
You don't want to use this kind of weapon, you
don't want to torture people, you don't want to hurt children.
This is a question right off the bat. Everybody has
to ask themselves because the answer you instinctively give isn't
necessarily the answer you want to give. Should there be

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rules and more? Well, I'll go ahead and answer it
for me personally, I believe there should be rules in war,
but I should never expect the enemy to follow said rules.
Now I didn't say what my rules were or what
they weren't. Why why didn't I specify. I've brought this

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up before anyone who's listened to the show for a
while and those I love history, But my number one
historical obsession, it has been for years, in a decade,
is the Pacific portion of World War II, the fighting
with the Japanese and the islands and everything else. That
just fascinated by the whole thing. And I've told you before.

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I mean, you can go watch documentaries on it if
you find a good one. Marines. Marines were routinely killed
and maimed by Japanese troops who faked being wounded, who
faked being dead, who faked surrendering just so they could

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kill more marines and army soldiers. There were plenty of
army guys there. Eb Sledge, he wrote that wonderful book
with the Old Breed, talked about how the Japanese would
tuck a grenade under their arm pits and raise their
hands up, only they'd have the top of their arms
close to their body. And when the marine approached, you

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reach out your arms, drop the grenade, You kill everybody
so if I were to ask you, remember we have
to have this talk. If I were to ask you, hey,
should you execute someone who's surrendering, you would probably say,
like all these people would.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
No, But.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
How many of your friends do you have to see
die like that before you decide, Oh, there's no more surrendering.
No no, no, no, no. Everybody gets popped in the head. Everybody.
The Marines and the army soldiers routinely ran into this

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nightmare because American troops were at their hearts good people.
They did not want to harm women or children. The
Japanese soldiers knew this, and so when the Japanese soldiers
would hide in caves, if civilians were available, they would
take women they're still nursing, babies and children into the

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caves with them. If you're a marine, you can't go
into the cave and rescue them. It's not possible. You'll
die or your buddies will die. You also can't leave
that cave with armed Japanese troops in it, because then
they'll come out at night and cut your buddy's throat
when he's asleep. You have to neutralize it. And so

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the Marines would grab satchel charges throw them in the
caves and blow it up. Sometimes everyone in there died instantly.
Sometimes the entrance of the cave would simply collapse and
everyone in there would slowly starve to death and die

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of thirst in the pitch black. The men, the women,
the children. Now let me ask you again, what are
your rules for war? Don't those quote rules? Don't they

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become always situationally dependent? You know, the more powerful fighting
force is always fond of rules of war. You can't
do this and you can't do that. Sign disagreement, say
you won't do that, you won't harm this, you won't

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attack this way. You know why. It's the less powerful
fighting force that oftentimes violates what you and I would
consider rules of war necessity. They have to. So let's
discuss and the chances this is going to offend. You

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are probably pretty strong. Let's discuss the rules of drug runners, terrorists?
What should be done? How have we been doing it?
Maybe you didn't watch it on CNN. I'll tell you
about it. Next, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Fantastic Tuesday. I remember you can email the show

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you love, your hate, your death threats Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. We're going to get to institutional trust
after we finish up on this little talk here on Venezuela.
So the question was about war crimes. What are war crimes?
And I just discussed with you rules of war. Do
you believe in them? What do you believe about them?
So let me explain. Let me explain how it's always

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worked and how it will always work. For instance, let's
say it's Iraq. Let's you get intelligence that there is
a convoy of terrorists and they're heading towards Bagdad. They
cross the border from Syria. It's a convoy of terrorists.

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There are bad guys in there. Now, first of all,
don't ever, ever, ever think to yourself that it works
like it does in the movies where one guy reports
to you, Hey, I think there are some terrorists in there,
and then you and a bunch of helicopters and bombs
and bullets you roll out and just go kill everybody.

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That's not how it works at all. In the United
States of America, there is a long chain of command
for these kinds of strikes that has to be signed
off on by this commander and that commander. It's not
a one off thing. One guy doesn't get to push
the button, is what I'm saying, because he feels like it.
And by the way, that includes the Secretary of War.

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One guy doesn't get to push the button. Several guys
have to look at the intelligence, look at what's there,
and say, okay, boom stamped approved, boom stamped approved. It
goes through a long, long list, a checklist. Now let's
go to the nitty gritty, the ugly part of it
that you may not like because it doesn't remind you

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of Captain America. Once all the check marks have been gotten,
once the stamp of approval was on the paperwork, everyone
in that convoy is going to die. And they're not
all necessarily going to be holding weapons at the time.
They're not all going to shoot first. In fact, I know,

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I know this violates our comic book sensibilities, but I
actually don't want him to be armed first, and I
don't want him to shoot first, because then there's a
chance he'll kill me. Once I've determined that he's an
enemy combatant, I want to sneak up behind him and
put one in the back of his head. Therefore he's
dead and I'm alive. And so are my friends. So

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how does it work. Well, you send in whatever you
happen to send in. It happens a variety of different ways.
I mean, it can be everything from tomahawks to just
all kinds of different ways. You can choose to nuke
that convoy, but not only do you nuke the convoy once,
then you're flying over it at the time and you're
looking for signs of life. That includes somebody crawling on

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the ground with its legs blown off. And if you
detect signs of life, if you detect intact vehicles most definitely,
because there's munitions in those vehicles, you have to assume.
Then you send in another strike, and another strike and
another strike until everyone is freaking dead. Because that's war.

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War is ugly, it is unfair, it is terrible, and
people die. And contrary to what Hollywood would have you believe,
you don't wait until he shoots for punch, his first
grid toal weapon and gives you no with the choice,
but the take of life. You hit first, and you
hit hard, and you make sure he's dead, over and

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over and over again. That's how war has always been
done and will always be done. Now I talked yesterday
about the communists and how they don't care about war crimes. Right,
none of this is about war crimes. Is it a
violation of the laws of war. None of this is

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about that. This was simply an op, a communist op
designed to divide the Trump administration. If they're lucky, take
out Pete hegg Sath. You understand what it was. We
already talked about that. As far as the international laws
of war, I'll be honest with you, I laugh at them.
And you know the reason I laugh at them, It's

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not because I don't want there to be rules. I
very much do want there to be rules. Rules. I
don't want civilians heard, I don't want people tortured, I
don't want people gassed and things like that. The reason
I've always laughed about the laws of war is the
entire history of the world is the second someone's losing,
they violate the rules in the law because they don't
care about it at all. You know, there were laws,

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rules against using poison gas and World War One, the
second Germany decided it couldn't break the stalemate they had
going out, came the poison gas. There were all kinds
of rules and laws and this war and that war.
And well, the second you start losing, the second it

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starts going against you, you throw those things out and
you do all the things that are against the rules.
I laugh when I hear college boys in Washington, DC
do gooders who've never seen combat talk about the rules
of war and war crimes and things like that, because

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all it tells me is you've never actually been there.
And of course they'll roll out some air fingers quote veteran,
and he's almost always some jag Fobbitt who never left
the line. He never heard a shot fired in anger.
He never saw an ounce of blood unless it was
the sliver he got at the chow hall going back
for his fifth helping of chocolate cake while the rest

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of us were out on patrol. It's the only blood
he ever saw in the global war on terror. And
now he's, of course a democrat, and he's talking about
Pete Haig said in the Rules of War, and I'm
not really comfortable. Hey, bb b b BBB. And these
are the subversives that have me greatly concerned about potential

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war with Venezuela. I'm going to give you one more
thought on this and why I'm concerned, and then we're
moving on. We're going to talk about institutional trust. Hang on,
it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Wonderful Tuesday,
talking about rules of war. Now, finally my final thought
on this, because I want to talk about institutional trust.

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There's a story out from the FDA that maybe went
by you. Maybe you don't care. I very very much
do care, and we're about to talk about it before
I get to that. Venezuela. I don't know what's coming,
neither do you. There's all kinds of saber rattling, if
you will, there's I don't know what's coming, but I

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will say this, and I'm sure the Trump administration is
well aware of what I'm going to say, so I
don't want to act like I'm educating them about something.
We no longer have a Democrat party in the United
States of America. We have an anti American communist party
in the country. You see it every single day. But

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what's the difference. Well, Democrats may push for leftist things,
there's no question about it. But once you go full communist,
then what you are is a subverse of trying to
hurt the country. You could argue when nineteen eighty five,
Democrat was doing things that hurt the country. Hey, I

(18:10):
didn't like that policy. I didn't like this policy. You
could argue that all day long. But as a whole,
the party itself wasn't designed to hurt the country. Hurting
the country may have been a byproduct of bad policy,
it wasn't designed for that. With the modern day Democrat

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Party being a subversive communist party, we have to consider
something that maybe you haven't considered. Think about this. Let's say,
just for the sake of argument, let's say we go
full on, boots on the ground regime change in Venezuela.

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I'm going to set aside the politics of trying to
sell that to the American people and stuff like that.
We've already discussed that. I'm not getting into it tonight.
Just say it's happening. Trump says, the Marines are going
in the air strikes, begin the works, right, all right?
How many people in the Central Intelligence Agency can be trusted?

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How many people inside the National security apparatus of the
United States of America are there to bring down the
United States of America. How many people in the Democrat
Party would work hand in hand with the media the
Central Intelligence Agency, every other part of the system to

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actually try to get us to lose that war so
the Trump administration would look bad. How many How do
you prosecute a war like that? It's not that wars
have to have universal support from everyone back at home
in order to be successful. That's not the case. In fact,

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that's rarely the case. I'm not saying that you can
have people who are against the war for the war.
Oh that's fine. But what if you have one of
the two major political parties and they'll burn this whole
place to ash in order to hurt Donald Trump's approval numbers.
How do you fight a war like that? What? How

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does that look on the ground. Okay, well, let's just
game this out, shall we, and then we'll move on
and talk about institutional trust because this is actually going
to tie directly to it. The Trump administration right now
they're doing things like nuking drug boats and closing the
airspace over Venezuela. Well, these are policies that generally Americans

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are okay with. One. We don't have any strong like
of narco terrorists, so when you watch an internet video
of some getting blown up, you don't care. But that's
only part of why you're okay with it. You're okay
with it because no Americans are being harmed. In fact,
there's not even a real risk of any American being harmed.

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The Biden administration took a brutal, brutal hit to their
public approval numbers when thirteen warriors died at Abby Gate,
and everyone kind of knew it was their fault. The
American people will tolerate a certain amount of foreign adventuring
right up to the point where they're burying troops. Then

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they start to get upset. This is not new. The
FDR administration was gravely concerned about the casualty numbers at
Ewojima before we got into the Japanese invasion because they
knew the American people were sick of it. They were
really worried about it, and justifiably so. The American people
do not want blood. Now, let's say you're just hypothetically

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a United States senator from Michigan. Let's say you have
deep ties to the Central Intelligence Agency. Let's say there
are a bunch of people in the CIA, just for
the sake of argument, who are actually committed communists who
would love to burn America down. Let's say you're this

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senator kind of agree and the very least you don't
care if America burns now. Let's say you have knowledge
of the location of a ship off the coast of Venezuela.
The Venezuelans don't know about a ship that if the
Venezuelans knew about it, they actually had the ability to

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take it out. How hard do you have to work
to slip that information to the Venezuelans. So a destroyer
gets nuked in the water, and you wake up tomorrow
morning and find out four hundred American sailors are at
the bottom of the ocean. What happens to Donald Trump's
approval numbers? If four hundred American sailors end up at

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the bottom of the ocean. And you know for a fact,
I don't mean you have to try to convince you.
You know for a fact every elected Democrat in Congress
would happily hand over that information in order to hurt Trump.
You know, these people have proven there's nothing they won't

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do in order to get Trump. Shoot. They tried to
freaking kill him, framed him for crimes. You think they
won't kill some sailors? They don't care about means nothing
to these people. I am worried about our ability to
prosecute any war with anybody with a subversive party like
this inside the United States of America. And I'm not

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talking about being against the war. If there was a war,
That's not what I'm discussing at all. All kinds of
people and probably you are going to be against actual
military action like that. That's not what I'm saying. I'm
not talking about run of the mill against the war.
I'm talking I want to burn this country down. Trump
is hurting the revolution, and if I can kill a

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bunch of American troops, then I'll do it in order
to further the revolution. And that's the kind of Democrat
party we have. Now. How quickly do you think Jasmine
Crockett would hand out critical pieces of intelligence to the
enemy if she thought it would help the revolution. She
wouldn't even hesitate, wouldn't even hesitate at all. Think about

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that all right? Now? That brings me to something that's
completely unrelated, but I'm going to go off on it
because it matters. It matters a lot. We're going to
talk about institutions and institutional trust because I got this
email about Venezuela. Although we're done with Venezuela. Jesse. I
was listening to the opening of yesterday's show about commie ops,

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and the key part is using corrupt institutions to give
the op credibility quote seven sources, the CIA, Harvard, etc.
It's tough for people who still trust the media in
these institutions not to fall victim. Even when I listen,
I can feel a twinge of angst, thinking, oh, that

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does sound bad. So we're now this is going to
take a while to walk our way through this, but
we're going to discuss another danger of where we are
as a country right now, and that is we don't
have institutions that are trustworthy. We have pulled our trust away.

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They have proven to be untrustworthy. How do you march
forward as a country when the people themselves feel as
if the contract with their institutions has been broken. Let's
discuss that much. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on
a Wonderful Tuesday everyde If you can email us your love,

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your hate, your death threats Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
So we're gonna get to all kinds of things, but
you're gonna have to buckle up for a few because
this might take me a little bit. We're gonna have
a discussion we've talked about again again and again and again,
and we'll keep talking about it because it is so important.
It's everything institutions and institutional trust. All nations are built

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on top of their institutions. The institutions hold up the country. Now,
let me let me break this down in a way
that I haven't before. Medical institutions, because that's what we're about
to We're about to discuss that in a moment. But
medical institutions, even if you're a small village, it is

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so important that you have someone someone there who can
provide some kind of medical care when people get sick
or hurt. Now today you're thinking about doctors and nurses
in medical school and things like that, and we'll get
to that in a moment, But even in a small village,
there has to be a medicine man or something like that.

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But not just the medicine man. You see, he has
to have people training underneath him. The recipes and things
they use, they come down from generation to generation to generation.
The medical man, the medical institution of that village must

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be there because the people in the village, the people
in that tribe. They have to know, Hey this itches,
Hey I broke my leg, my tummy's upset, my wife
is pregnant. They have to know there is a place
they can go to get accurate medical care, accurate efficient

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medical care. They have to know. And the institution of
it is everything. Religion, media, entertainment. These institutions are pillars
that hold up societies. There has to be for media,
for example, in the media, now this is going to

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be laughable because of the disgusting media we have in
this country. It's critical because you're busy. You have a life,
you have a job, you got school, you got this,
you got that, you got everything else. You don't have
all day long to pay attention to the news and
to dig through archives here and archives there and listen
to the police scanner. And you know you don't have that.

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What do you have. You've got fifteen minutes thirty minutes
time when you're working out, maybe at work, to tune
into somebody to try to get accurate information on what
is happening in the world, in your country, in your state,
and in your community. There has to be an institution. Therefore,

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in your country that train people to give out accurate,
unbiased information so normal people can be informed. But we
don't have it here, and it's devastating. Now. I know

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that we have options, you and I we both have
options now because of social media and all the different
podcasts and shows, and there are all kinds of places
you can go now, go that are outside of tradition.
But we lost it, and we lost these institutions. I'll
get to the medical ones. We lost these institutions not

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by accident. We lost these institutions for two reasons. The
first reason we lost our institutions is it just it
just seems to happen with time, meaning countries, especially large,
powerful countries like ours, over a long enough period of time,

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for a variety of reasons, the institutions will eventually be
taken over by evil, selfish, corrupt people, and they will
ruin the reputation of the institution by taking it over
and doing evil, horrible, corrupt things. And once that institutional

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trust is gone, once the people think it's a joke,
then honestly, you might as well bury the institution because
it no longer serves a purpose at all. I almost
laughed when I heard this lady. Her name is what
is it? Katie Turr is her name. She's been a
communist activist pretending to be a journalist for years and

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years and years and years and years. She is with MSNBC.
This is what she said. Listen to what she said.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
People don't trust us, they don't believe us, and it
makes me wonder if this job, as I'm currently doing
it is effective, but if it's doing more harm than good.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Katie terror sought out journalism because Katie Turr wanted to
move the communist revolution forward. She didn't seek out journalism
because she wanted you to be informed about the news
of the day, the weather, the crime, the economy. That
that never crossed her mind. And you know how you

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can tell what crossed her mind. She actually dropped the
word in there that was so revealing. Did you catch it?
I'll play it again. We'll see if you can catch it.
It's one word. It tells you all you need to
know about how she views her job as a journalist.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
People don't trust us, they don't believe us, and it
makes me wonder if this job as I'm currently doing
it is effective, but if he's doing more harm than good?

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Effective what do you mean by effective? If you saw
yourself as a journalist whose job it was to inform
people of simple facts, the truth, why would you ever
be concerned about being effective. You would only use that

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word if you saw your job as being something other
than the truth and the facts. You see, these people
are everywhere. Brian Stelter's another great example. What is this
all about?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Is this just about controlling the narrative.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
To legitimize the media? I would say, is to delegitimize
the media, Jessica, And this media bias monitor is being
produced at taxpayer expense. A He's worried about the Trump
administration delegitimizing the media, but the media delegitimized itself. It
was conquered by corrupt, evil, selfish people who saw their

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job as being something other than informing the public. And
now the trust is gone and they can lament it
all day long, but they did it, which brings me
to our medical institutions. Get to that in a moment.