July 8, 2025 • 33 mins
Donald Trump Amnesty Conditions
Should Farmworkers stay?
James Lankford Immigration Bill
Jesse reads emails
Should Farmworkers stay?
James Lankford Immigration Bill
Jesse reads emails
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show
on a wonderful, absolutely wonderful Tuesday. So let's talk amnesty
here really quickly, where you will. We're about to talk amnesty.
Then I'll touch on some of this Ukraine sending weapons
to Ukraine's stuff, robotic coyotes, emails, lots of stuff still
to come on The Jesse Kelly Show on a Wonderful
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Tuesday night. First, you know, there have been rumors, if
you will, more than rumors. Donald Trump put out a
social media post not long ago. Well, this is what
he said back in June. Quote, our farmers and the
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people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating
that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good,
longtime workers away from them, with those jobs being almost
impossible to replace. In many cases, the criminals allowed into
our country by the very stupid Biden open borders policy
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are applying for those jobs. This is not good. We
must protect our farmers, but get the criminals out of
the United States. Changes are coming. So you're not an idiot,
you can read between the lines. Donald Trump's phone was
blowing up with a bunch of hotel guys and farmers saying, hey,
all my cheap illegal labor, you're deporting them all. And
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so Trump puts out that social media post. Immediately there
was backlash from you, from the MAGA faithful, from the
MAGA base immediately. Remember this was back in June. June
twelfth was the day he put that out. People flooded
the White House with emails, social media posts, what is
this garbage? No, if they're here illegally, they have to go.
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Backed off. Never heard another word about it. Then July
fourth weekend, think it was Saturday of July fourth weekend,
maybe Sunday Saturday or Sunday July fourth weekend. After dead
silence for almost a month, Trump got up, we played
this yesterday, said that we're.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Working on legislation right now where farmers look, they't no better.
They work with them for years. He had cases that
were not here, but just even over the years where
people have worked for a farm on a farm for
fourteen fifteen years and they get thrown out pretty viciously,
and we can't do it. We got to work with
the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties
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to We're going to work with them, and we're going
to work, very strong and smart, and we're gonna put
you in charge.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We're gonna make you responsible.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And I think that that's going to make a lot
of people happy.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, I played it on the show. You heard it already,
probably before the show, and you did not, to your credit,
follow in line life a lemming because you're not a sheep.
You have desires. Hope Streams loudly, loudly told the Trump
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White House, I saw all the emails. I saw all
white didn't see all the emails, but I saw a
bunch of emails social media. The response was loud no,
absolutely not no. Today, Brook Rawlins, AG Secretary, Agriculture Secretary, Sorry,
Brook Rawlins said, quote, there will be no amnesty. Trump
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today said this, there's no one I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Going to see.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
What we're doing is we're getting rid of criminals, but
we are doing a work program. Do you want to
explain that question.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, this morning we talked about of course, this was
a top of mine question. This morning, we talked about
protecting the farmers in the farmland. But obviously this president's
vision of no amnesty, mass deportation continues, but in a
strategic way, and then ensuring that our farmers have the
labor that they need. Secretary Chavis Drummer has been a
leader on this. Obviously this comes out of the Labor Department,
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but moving toward automation, ensuring that our farmers have that workforce,
and moving toward an American workforce.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So all of the above, the.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Farmers the people they need. But we're not talking amnesty.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You are the one responsible for that. And this is
what I have told you over and over and over
again about putting down the pom poms, put the pajamas away,
and let all of your elected leaders, including Donald Trump,
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know when they are saying or doing something that displeases you.
The worst possible thing you can do is become a
man fan, a palm palm waiver, because that it enables
people to do the worst things, and you'll always be cheering.
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That is horrible. You can like, you can love Donald Trump,
you can think he's the greatest president ever, and to
be honest with you, I'm not so sure he's not
on the short list. He's been outstanding absolutely outside. You
can think all these things where your Trump hat, wave
your Trump sign, use your bumper sticker, but don't ever
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just go along with whatever he says, or whatever he does,
because he's still just a man, just like you, just
like me. You make mistakes. I make mistakes. That's all
Chris does is make mistakes. We're all human beings. That's
not very nice, Chris, put that finger down. We're all
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human beings. We screw up. Don't be a man fan
and you weren't. And that's why. Immediate backlash, immediate backtrack
on amnesty. Now. Obviously as you can hear, I'll play
it again. Trump heard you loud and clear. To his credit,
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I've always said this. It's not a flaw. It's to
his credit. He listens when his bass speaks. That's why
he doesn't. You notice he doesn't brag about the vaccine anymore.
Used to do that on campaign stops. Why did he
stop doing that? Well, I mean the words out there now.
He started asking friends and family members, why are they
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all booing whenever I bring it up? He heard you.
You didn't wave your pom poms, you didn't cheer, you said, oh,
I'll stop. He stopped talking about it, stop bragging about it.
He heard you, He heard you here. He still has
people in his ear though, talking about the workers. So
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it went from amnesty to a work program of some kind.
He's still going to try to thread a needle to
walk a line, and that's fine. He's going to try
to do right. We don't know. We can't get mad
about a policy. We don't know what it is yet.
But you couldn't hear here he's letting you know this
was for you. No amnesty, No amnesty, says it a
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couple of times.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
There's no amnesty. What we're doing is we're getting rid
of criminals, but we are doing a work program. Do
you want to explain that place?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, this morning we talked about of course this was
a top of mine question. This morning, we talked about
protecting the farmers in the farmland. But obviously this president's
vision of no amnesty, mass deportation continues, but in a
strategic way, and then ensuring that our farmers have the
labor that they need. Secretary Chavis Durimer has been a
leader on this. Obviously this comes out of the Labor Department,
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but moving toward automation, ensuring that our farmers have that workforce,
and moving toward an American workforce.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So all of the above, you're the farmers the people
they need but we're not talking.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Amnesty said it a couple of times. That was him
listening to you, responding to you, good job. And this
is how we always have to be. Remember this isn't
just for Trump.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We should be like this with our state reps and
state senators. You know that your state, your state legislature,
actually has more power over your life, what is allowed,
what isn't allowed. They have more power over your life
than the federal government does, really, more than Donald Trump does,
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more than Congress, more than the Senate. State legislatures are
incredibly powerful and decide the direction of their state. Let
me ask you, not trying to make you feel bad,
but let me ask you. Do you know their names?
Have you ever met them? Did you know you can?
These are not unattainable people. Unless you start writing large
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campaign checks. You'll probably never meet the US senator from
your state. That's not a thing that's accessible to most
normal people. Maybe you could run into him at an
event and he'd shake your hand and then put a
fake smile on, but you're never gonna actually have a
conversation with him. You know who you can have a
conversation with because he lives in your area, probably your neighborhood.
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State reps and state senators. Do you know they have
public events, public town halls. They'll put it on their website.
Do you know how many people show up at these events?
I've been to several because I ran for Congress. I
used to go to these state events ten not even
making that up. Twenty maybe fifty. I don't think I've
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ever seen one with fifty people in it. You can
show up and you can speak to your state rep,
your state senator, and if they are displeasing you, you
can let them know. And we should. I don't remember
who said it, but it's a great saying. Politicians should
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be changed as often as diapers, and for the same reason.
Don't ever become a man fan. Let him know what
you like and what you don't. Let's do some emails. Next,
it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Fantastic Tuesday,
and we'll get to the sending weapons to Ukraine stuff,
the good of it, the bad of it, all this
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stuff here in just a few It's time to do
some emails. I promised emails. Let's do some emails first.
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Jesse I bet some
people looked up where the shooter in McCallen was from
and thought, wow, looks oh McCallen now McCallen, Texas. Just
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a little heads up for you about it. I have
spent a lot of time down in McAllen, Texas where
that shooting at the ice facility took place. I used
to do it. I did a construction project down there
with my dad. I have taken the boys down there
dove hunting multiple times. It is it feels like you're
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in Mexico. It's right on the border. It's a huge
trafficking hub.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I don't know that it's the safest place I've ever been,
and I've been in a lot of hot places, and
I've been in a lot of hotter places than McAllen.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But it's on the list. I'll put it to you
that way. The first time I got off a plane
in McAllen, it was the middle of the summer. The
heat was like a life force down there. There are
a lot of doves, though, Jesse, we have many, many
years of illegals being in San Diego. We need to
use common sense. What do we do with a gardener
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who was picked up and has three sons in the Marines.
I'm seventy nine. This has gone on too long. Biden's
illegals have to go. It's a real problem. But Trump
is right, something has to give, at least serious screening.
So you know, she's saying, hey, look these people who've
been here a long time and stuff like that, And Okay,
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I understand what you're saying, and I'm certainly not I'm
not going to crush you for that opinion at all.
I'm not. But this goes back to what we were
discussing actually in the first hour, and what we've talked
about many times when it comes to trust. The first hour,
we were talking about the Epstein stuff, and people want answers,
they want information, And so I'll put it to you
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this way. If our Department of Justice and our FBI
and our CIA, if they were trustworthy in the eyes
of a large portion of the American people, you know,
like they used to be, I'm not saying they've ever
been trustworthy. So so don't email me and Tommy. They've always
been bad. I don't want to hear it. I know,
I know. But ten years ago, fifteen years ago, the FBI,
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the FBI had an approval ray in the eighties. I believe,
if I remember right, the American people right and left
trusted the FBI. So ten fifteen years ago, when the
public believed what the FBI said, the Attorney General could
come out and say this and everyone would say, oh, okay,
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well that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Sure sure. First to back up on that, in February,
I did an interview on Fox and it's been getting
a lot of attention because I said, I was asked
a question about the client list, and my response was,
it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the
file along with the JFK MLK files as well. That's
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what I meant by back also to the tens of
thousands of video they turned out to be child porn
downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
She says that when we live in a high trust society,
people go, oh, okay, that makes sense. I certainly I
don't want any of the child porn out there. I
get it, Okay, I get it, Thank you, Pam. We
don't live in that society. We live in a society
where our institutions have violated our trust so many times
that now that answer doesn't work. Anymore. How does this
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apply to your email? Well, Jesse, can't the farmers stay
that the people who've been working here stay. Can't they stay?
That answer, I'm not insulting you in all, I'm really not,
and you know I'm finding insulting people that answer in
a vacuum is understandable. We are not in a vacuum.
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We are in a society where we have watched Democrats
and Republicans like James Lancer, James Langford of Oklahoma. We've
watched these people intentionally fill up our country with foreigners
year after year after year after year after year. And
then the Biden administration, because it was run by evil
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communists while Joe Biden drooled on himself, they took that
and they put it into hyper drive and they ied.
They flew barbarians into this country as fast as they
possibly could, from every corner of the globe. They brought
in as many barbarians as they could, trying to break
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this country, trying to overwhelm the system, a real Cloward
Piven strategy. So now after that, the American people don't
want to hear, well, what about the farmers. There's no
appetite for that. Now there may have been maybe even
five years ago, maybe ten years ago. Definitely twenty thirty
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years ago, those kind of stances would have been more
acceptable to the American people. Okay, why he spin here.
He hasn't murdered anybody. I'm not saying I would have
ever had that stance. I'm not, but the American people
as a whole would have had much more understanding because
trust hadn't been violated yet. But when you sit back
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as an American citizen and watch Democrats and James Langford
bring as many illegals into the country as they possibly can,
you don't want to hear about farmers anymore. You don't
want to hear that the hotels need cheap maids to
clean the rooms. You don't want to hear about it.
Your patience is done. Trust is gone. Now it becomes
all of you. Get out, every one of them in
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a vacuum. Your email is understandable. Life does not exist
in a vacuum. We'll do some more. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a Wonderful Tuesday. Member. If you
miss any part of the show, you can download the
whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Let's do a few
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more emails before we do ug the Ukraine stuff. I
don't want to go back to politics yet. I'm in
a mood, right and I'm in a mood, Jesse. I
want to request a history segment. Ooh, I just love
ancient history, especially relating to ancient rules in Carthage. Can
you do something about Hannibal, maybe about the Battle of Knee?
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All right? So I have done the Battle of Knee,
or at least I've done Hannibal before, so I'm not
gonna go into a long one. But you requested it,
and I'm kind of in that kind of mood, so
let's just discuss this. I'll be as fast as I
possibly can, as fast as I possibly can, all right.
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So remember Hindsight's twenty twenty and the war with Carthage
between Rome and Carthage, specifically the one with Hannibal. That
was the second Punic War. They're known as the Punic Wars.
There were three, the third one being the finale since
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there wasn't a Carthage by the time they were done.
The second one is the most famous one because the
second one brought maybe the most brilliant tactical military commander
in human history Hannibal. Hannibal Barka is his name. Isn't
that sick? Just see just sounds awesome. Hannibal Barka. Carthage
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was a juggernaut at this time, a superpower in their
own right. If you were handicapping this this war, I
don't know that you would choose choose Carthageerome, but you'd
say Carthage has a chance massively powerful. And remember where
the locations we're talking about here. Carthage is in North Africa,
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touching the Mediterranean. You know about Italy, the boot, you
know all that, they're on the other part of the Mediterranean.
This is really a war for control of the major
traffic hub of the ancient world. Hannibal's father was a general,
a very good one. Allegedly, Hannibal's father had multiple sons.
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They were all military can commanders, and his sons were
called because they called his father the Lion. His sons
were known as the lions brood. Isn't that sick? The
lions anyway, Hannibal hates Rome. He is born to hate Rome.
His father hated Rome. War with Rome, Hannibal creates this
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incredible army and this everybody knows about he crosses the Alps.
He has elephants, not a lot of those died. The
crossing of the Alps is an amazing story. He's fighting
with tribes, there's cold that people are falling off the cliffs.
Just Hannibal crossing the Alps would be a movie in
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and of itself. If you could go back and figure
out all the details, it would be amazing. It'd be amazing. Rome,
here's he's coming. They're a little taken aback because they
thought the Alps were impenetrable. But Hannibal crosses the Alps.
They're waiting for him. The Romans are waiting for him. Practically,
as he gets down, there's a little lag, and Roman
armies didn't really lose. Hannibal promptly beats the living crap
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out of them. Then Rome raises another army. This is
what they would do, just raise another army, Well, go
get him. They send them up there. Hannibal ambushes them
by a big lake, beats the living crap out of them.
Now Rome is petrified, and they are taking this problem very,
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very very seriously. Hannibal has These are all rough numbers,
and you can't really rely on historical numbers like this anyway,
So just it's rough. Hannibal has about fifty thousand troops.
Rome raises an eighty thousand man army. And unlike today
where you have the Lansigram types sending everyone else off
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to war every chance they get, Roman politicians believe they
had to march off themselves. A large portion of the
Roman Senate grabbed a sword and a shield and marched
off Rome. It sent its politicians at the head of
its armies to go fight when Rome had to fight.
It's a very good system, much better system than the
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one we have. They take this eighty thousand man army,
remember it's bigger than Hannibals, and they march it up
to fight Hannibal. I won't go over all the nitty
gritty details because that one I don't want to do
a super long history thing. But what Hannibal does is
so risky and brilliant. And what he does is he
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does something that military experts they say it's impossible. They
said beforehand it was impossible, and to this day they say,
I don't understand how he did it, because it's supposed
to be impossible. What Hannibal did to the Roman army
with his smaller army. Was he surrounded it? How could
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he do that? How is it possible that he did that? Well,
this is what he did. Normally back then, you would
want your strongest, most reliable troops because remember, no matter
what kind of army you have, Roman, Carthaginian, whatever, you
are going to have your A plus shock troops, and
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then you're going to have some people who they were
not quite as reliable, younger, weaker, not as well trained.
It's just like today, you're gonna have You're gonna have
your green berets, and you're gonna have the fry cook
your star. Conventional wisdom back then said you put your
strongest ground troops in the center because you need your
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center to hold. You need it all to hold, but
you really have to have your centered old. That's, of course,
how the Romans crew did their lines. Hannibal put his
weakest troops in the center, his strongest troops out on
the edges. Because Hannibal had a plan. He he stood
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behind his weak center because he couldn't have his weak
center break right away. But his plan was allow the
Romans to push into his army and plan on your
center losing ground, and it happened the Romans. Of course,
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the lines meet, but Hannibal's center starts losing ground because
that's where his weakest troops are, the Roman The Romans
put their shock troops there, they're best troops. They're they're
losing ground. But Hannibal's behind them, saying hold, hold, hold,
trying to hold things together. But what's not happening the
edges of Hannibal's army. They're not going backwards because that's
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where his best troops are. In fact, they start pushing forward.
The Romans are pushing this center backwards, and they didn't
know until it's too late. Remember they don't have some
bird's eye view back then. It's all screen and yelling
and blood and dust. Rumor is it was extremely dry
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and dusty that day, so you couldn't see what was happening.
The Romans did not realize they were pushing into a trap.
As they pushed, Hannibal's army began to envelop them, and
eventually the Romans pushed so far that Hannibal's army smaller,
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Remember fifty thousand men versus eighty thousand, completely encircled the Romans.
Then they slaughtered every single one of them. It took,
according to the writing, all day as the Romans inside
of this circle of death died to the last man.
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The Roman army was not completely wiped out. People will
see there are ten to fifteen thousand survivors. Those were
the people who were back at camp. Everyone in the
circle died because urine, so there's no escape. It was
so horrifying. They found Roman soldiers who dug a hole
for their heads in the ground and buried themselves and
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suffocated themselves rather than wait for the Carthaginians to come.
Do it with a sword and a spear tactically. It's
just beyond belief. That is the briefest possible version I
can give you of the Battle of Knee fascinating story.
If that interested you, go look into it more. Trust me,
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I gave you a thirty thousand foot few. There's more
to it, and it's awesome. It is the Jesse Kelly
Show on a lovely, lovely Tuesday. Okay, now, let's discuss
something that people are talking about today as far as
sending military aid to Ukraine. I have a statement here
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put out by actually my buddy Sean Parnell, Chief Pentagon
spokesman Sean Parnell at present, in Trump's direction, the Department
of Defense is sending additional defensive weapons to Ukraine to
ensure Ukraine can defend themselves while we work to secure
a lasting peace and ensure the killing stops. Our framework
for POTUS to evaluate military shipments across the globe remains
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in effect and is integral to our America First defense priorities. Okay,
that's the official statement. Donald Trump talked about it a bit.
Here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
We wanted to put defensive weapons because Putin he's not
treating human beings, right, He's killing too many people. So
we're sending some defensive weapons to Ukraine, and I've approved.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That, right. He also said this.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
That was a war that should have ever happened, and
a lot of people are dying, and it should end.
And I don't know, get we get a lot of
most thrown at us by Putin for you one another,
the truth. It's very nice all the time, but it
turns out to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay. I know a lot of people, myself included, are
sick of America's involvement in this whole thing. They don't
think we should have ever gotten involved. I don't think
we should have ever gotten involved. I actually believe our
involvement artificially propping up Ukraine has killed far more Ukrainians
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than were necessary. It's not that I'm cheering for Russia
to invade anywhere, certainly not cheering for them to invade Ukraine.
But if Ukraine had just lost the region Russia wanted
to take back, and they had lost it quickly, then
we wouldn't have half a million dead bodies on our
hands that we know of. All that aside, the American
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people were tired of this, especially when inflation hasn't eased.
The American people are done with foreign involvement. They're sick
of it.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
This.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Actually, it comes back to a theme we've been on
on this show. Even if in a vacuum you could
totally justify our involvement, the American people are done with it.
After so many years, so many screw ups, so much
former foreign adventuring, so much money, loss lives, loss, blood loss.
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The American people don't want to hear it anymore. They're
tired of their blood and treasure being sent overseas. All
understandable in a vacuum, even if you can justify it,
we're not in a vacuum. So people heard Trump say
this and they got angry.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
We wanted to put defensive weapons because Putin he's not
treating human beings right, He's killing too many people. So
we're sending some defensive weapons to Ukraine, and I have
approved there.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
All right, let me explain. I don't want you to
take this as a defense, but yeah, I take that back.
You can take this as a defense. I understand what
he's doing. I understand the concerns, and I understand what
he's doing. Trump, you can hear his frustration. Has been
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unable to fulfill a campaign promise by bringing this conflict
to a clothes He promised he would end it. He did.
You can say he probably shouldn't have promised that, but
that's fine. But he said I'll end it. I'll end it.
I'll end it. In fact, he said multiple times, I'll
end it on the first day. That's what he said.
He's been unable to do so because Russia and Ukraine
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aren't done. Why do you think they haven't ended this
whole thing? Because they're not done fighting. Putin has taken
the territory he wanted. He's holding it. Ukraine Zelenski has
announced that's a red line. He can't have that territory.
So we're kind of in a rough spot. They're not
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done killing me other. They don't want to stop fighting.
Donald Trump is frustrated by that, and you can hear
his frustration in dealing with Putin, because to Trump, this
should all make sense. He has even offered Putin, he's
stangled it out there. Why don't we realign our relations.
Let's end this endless Russia America conflict thing. Let's just
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why don't we get along way, We'll do some trade.
What if we For Donald Trump, it makes all the
sense in the world. Hey, Ukraine, we'll do some mineral
rights deals with you so we can protect you. Putin,
don't think you're gonna be left on the outs. Will
open up some trade between us, we'll all make money.
This all works out. Putin doesn't think in those terms,
and you can hear Trump's frustration.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
That was a war that should have never happened, and
a lot of people are dying and it should end.
And I don't know, we get we get. We get
a lot of bolt thrown at us by Putin for
you one another, the truth, it's very nice all the time,
but it turns out to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
He's frustrated. Hey, okay, I'm working out a deal. Why
don't you want to stop fighting? So Putin doesn't want
to stop fighting because Putin's winning. He is he's winning,
he has held the territory he wants to hold. He
is still going after the Ukrainians. I am look, I'm
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not defending it. I'm not defending anybody here. There's a
long history here in all kinds of ugliness, and these
two countries have been slaughtering each other as fast as
humanly possible, and they don't want to stop. And Trump
is frustrated, so he's giving Ukraine weapons you can hear it,
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to defend themselves. He wants Putin to stop dropping missiles
into these Ukrainian cities, stop killing civilians. Is this Donald
Trump being manipulated by the deep state in order to
keep this thing going on forever? You know, the defense
and industry wants this thing to go on forever. They're
the ones that are going to get paid for all
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these replacement missiles. I don't know. It could be. We've
watched before, as CIA, FBI, defense industry generals have lied
to Trump manipulated Trump because they want to keep things going.
He doesn't want to keep going. Is that happening here?
Could be? I don't know, but I understand what he's saying.
He's trying to force putin to the negotiating table. Because
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money didn't get into the negotiating table. He tried to
use the carrot. Now he's using the stick. You don't
want to come to an agreement, fine, we'll send missiles
over there. That's what's happening right now. All right, Let's
talk about a little bit of that foreign investment, foreign
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adventuring that is aggravating, to put it mildly, Let's talk
about rope, audit coyotes. Let's talk about the evil communists.
Why do they go for that system membership card,
Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show
on a wonderful, absolutely wonderful Tuesday. So let's talk amnesty
here really quickly, where you will. We're about to talk amnesty.
Then I'll touch on some of this Ukraine sending weapons
to Ukraine's stuff, robotic coyotes, emails, lots of stuff still
to come on The Jesse Kelly Show on a Wonderful
(00:24):
Tuesday night. First, you know, there have been rumors, if
you will, more than rumors. Donald Trump put out a
social media post not long ago. Well, this is what
he said back in June. Quote, our farmers and the
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people in the hotel and leisure business have been stating
that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good,
longtime workers away from them, with those jobs being almost
impossible to replace. In many cases, the criminals allowed into
our country by the very stupid Biden open borders policy
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are applying for those jobs. This is not good. We
must protect our farmers, but get the criminals out of
the United States. Changes are coming. So you're not an idiot,
you can read between the lines. Donald Trump's phone was
blowing up with a bunch of hotel guys and farmers saying, hey,
all my cheap illegal labor, you're deporting them all. And
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so Trump puts out that social media post. Immediately there
was backlash from you, from the MAGA faithful, from the
MAGA base immediately. Remember this was back in June. June
twelfth was the day he put that out. People flooded
the White House with emails, social media posts, what is
this garbage? No, if they're here illegally, they have to go.
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Backed off. Never heard another word about it. Then July
fourth weekend, think it was Saturday of July fourth weekend,
maybe Sunday Saturday or Sunday July fourth weekend. After dead
silence for almost a month, Trump got up, we played
this yesterday, said that we're.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Working on legislation right now where farmers look, they't no better.
They work with them for years. He had cases that
were not here, but just even over the years where
people have worked for a farm on a farm for
fourteen fifteen years and they get thrown out pretty viciously,
and we can't do it. We got to work with
the farmers and people that have hotels and leisure properties
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to We're going to work with them, and we're going
to work, very strong and smart, and we're gonna put
you in charge.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We're gonna make you responsible.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
And I think that that's going to make a lot
of people happy.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Okay, I played it on the show. You heard it already,
probably before the show, and you did not, to your credit,
follow in line life a lemming because you're not a sheep.
You have desires. Hope Streams loudly, loudly told the Trump
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White House, I saw all the emails. I saw all
white didn't see all the emails, but I saw a
bunch of emails social media. The response was loud no,
absolutely not no. Today, Brook Rawlins, AG Secretary, Agriculture Secretary, Sorry,
Brook Rawlins said, quote, there will be no amnesty. Trump
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today said this, there's no one I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Going to see.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
What we're doing is we're getting rid of criminals, but
we are doing a work program. Do you want to
explain that question.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, this morning we talked about of course, this was
a top of mine question. This morning, we talked about
protecting the farmers in the farmland. But obviously this president's
vision of no amnesty, mass deportation continues, but in a
strategic way, and then ensuring that our farmers have the
labor that they need. Secretary Chavis Drummer has been a
leader on this. Obviously this comes out of the Labor Department,
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but moving toward automation, ensuring that our farmers have that workforce,
and moving toward an American workforce.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So all of the above, the.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Farmers the people they need. But we're not talking amnesty.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
You are the one responsible for that. And this is
what I have told you over and over and over
again about putting down the pom poms, put the pajamas away,
and let all of your elected leaders, including Donald Trump,
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know when they are saying or doing something that displeases you.
The worst possible thing you can do is become a
man fan, a palm palm waiver, because that it enables
people to do the worst things, and you'll always be cheering.
(04:58):
That is horrible. You can like, you can love Donald Trump,
you can think he's the greatest president ever, and to
be honest with you, I'm not so sure he's not
on the short list. He's been outstanding absolutely outside. You
can think all these things where your Trump hat, wave
your Trump sign, use your bumper sticker, but don't ever
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just go along with whatever he says, or whatever he does,
because he's still just a man, just like you, just
like me. You make mistakes. I make mistakes. That's all
Chris does is make mistakes. We're all human beings. That's
not very nice, Chris, put that finger down. We're all
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human beings. We screw up. Don't be a man fan
and you weren't. And that's why. Immediate backlash, immediate backtrack
on amnesty. Now. Obviously as you can hear, I'll play
it again. Trump heard you loud and clear. To his credit,
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I've always said this. It's not a flaw. It's to
his credit. He listens when his bass speaks. That's why
he doesn't. You notice he doesn't brag about the vaccine anymore.
Used to do that on campaign stops. Why did he
stop doing that? Well, I mean the words out there now.
He started asking friends and family members, why are they
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all booing whenever I bring it up? He heard you.
You didn't wave your pom poms, you didn't cheer, you said, oh,
I'll stop. He stopped talking about it, stop bragging about it.
He heard you, He heard you here. He still has
people in his ear though, talking about the workers. So
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it went from amnesty to a work program of some kind.
He's still going to try to thread a needle to
walk a line, and that's fine. He's going to try
to do right. We don't know. We can't get mad
about a policy. We don't know what it is yet.
But you couldn't hear here he's letting you know this
was for you. No amnesty, No amnesty, says it a
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couple of times.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
There's no amnesty. What we're doing is we're getting rid
of criminals, but we are doing a work program. Do
you want to explain that place?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Yeah, this morning we talked about of course this was
a top of mine question. This morning, we talked about
protecting the farmers in the farmland. But obviously this president's
vision of no amnesty, mass deportation continues, but in a
strategic way, and then ensuring that our farmers have the
labor that they need. Secretary Chavis Durimer has been a
leader on this. Obviously this comes out of the Labor Department,
(07:41):
but moving toward automation, ensuring that our farmers have that workforce,
and moving toward an American workforce.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
So all of the above, you're the farmers the people
they need but we're not talking.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Amnesty said it a couple of times. That was him
listening to you, responding to you, good job. And this
is how we always have to be. Remember this isn't
just for Trump.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
We should be like this with our state reps and
state senators. You know that your state, your state legislature,
actually has more power over your life, what is allowed,
what isn't allowed. They have more power over your life
than the federal government does, really, more than Donald Trump does,
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more than Congress, more than the Senate. State legislatures are
incredibly powerful and decide the direction of their state. Let
me ask you, not trying to make you feel bad,
but let me ask you. Do you know their names?
Have you ever met them? Did you know you can?
These are not unattainable people. Unless you start writing large
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campaign checks. You'll probably never meet the US senator from
your state. That's not a thing that's accessible to most
normal people. Maybe you could run into him at an
event and he'd shake your hand and then put a
fake smile on, but you're never gonna actually have a
conversation with him. You know who you can have a
conversation with because he lives in your area, probably your neighborhood.
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State reps and state senators. Do you know they have
public events, public town halls. They'll put it on their website.
Do you know how many people show up at these events?
I've been to several because I ran for Congress. I
used to go to these state events ten not even
making that up. Twenty maybe fifty. I don't think I've
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ever seen one with fifty people in it. You can
show up and you can speak to your state rep,
your state senator, and if they are displeasing you, you
can let them know. And we should. I don't remember
who said it, but it's a great saying. Politicians should
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be changed as often as diapers, and for the same reason.
Don't ever become a man fan. Let him know what
you like and what you don't. Let's do some emails. Next,
it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Fantastic Tuesday,
and we'll get to the sending weapons to Ukraine stuff,
the good of it, the bad of it, all this
(10:24):
stuff here in just a few It's time to do
some emails. I promised emails. Let's do some emails first.
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Jesse I bet some
people looked up where the shooter in McCallen was from
and thought, wow, looks oh McCallen now McCallen, Texas. Just
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a little heads up for you about it. I have
spent a lot of time down in McAllen, Texas where
that shooting at the ice facility took place. I used
to do it. I did a construction project down there
with my dad. I have taken the boys down there
dove hunting multiple times. It is it feels like you're
(11:07):
in Mexico. It's right on the border. It's a huge
trafficking hub.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I don't know that it's the safest place I've ever been,
and I've been in a lot of hot places, and
I've been in a lot of hotter places than McAllen.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But it's on the list. I'll put it to you
that way. The first time I got off a plane
in McAllen, it was the middle of the summer. The
heat was like a life force down there. There are
a lot of doves, though, Jesse, we have many, many
years of illegals being in San Diego. We need to
use common sense. What do we do with a gardener
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who was picked up and has three sons in the Marines.
I'm seventy nine. This has gone on too long. Biden's
illegals have to go. It's a real problem. But Trump
is right, something has to give, at least serious screening.
So you know, she's saying, hey, look these people who've
been here a long time and stuff like that, And Okay,
(12:11):
I understand what you're saying, and I'm certainly not I'm
not going to crush you for that opinion at all.
I'm not. But this goes back to what we were
discussing actually in the first hour, and what we've talked
about many times when it comes to trust. The first hour,
we were talking about the Epstein stuff, and people want answers,
they want information, And so I'll put it to you
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this way. If our Department of Justice and our FBI
and our CIA, if they were trustworthy in the eyes
of a large portion of the American people, you know,
like they used to be, I'm not saying they've ever
been trustworthy. So so don't email me and Tommy. They've always
been bad. I don't want to hear it. I know,
I know. But ten years ago, fifteen years ago, the FBI,
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the FBI had an approval ray in the eighties. I believe,
if I remember right, the American people right and left
trusted the FBI. So ten fifteen years ago, when the
public believed what the FBI said, the Attorney General could
come out and say this and everyone would say, oh, okay,
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well that makes sense.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
Sure sure. First to back up on that, in February,
I did an interview on Fox and it's been getting
a lot of attention because I said, I was asked
a question about the client list, and my response was,
it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed, meaning the
file along with the JFK MLK files as well. That's
(13:44):
what I meant by back also to the tens of
thousands of video they turned out to be child porn
downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
She says that when we live in a high trust society,
people go, oh, okay, that makes sense. I certainly I
don't want any of the child porn out there. I
get it, Okay, I get it, Thank you, Pam. We
don't live in that society. We live in a society
where our institutions have violated our trust so many times
that now that answer doesn't work. Anymore. How does this
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apply to your email? Well, Jesse, can't the farmers stay
that the people who've been working here stay. Can't they stay?
That answer, I'm not insulting you in all, I'm really not,
and you know I'm finding insulting people that answer in
a vacuum is understandable. We are not in a vacuum.
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We are in a society where we have watched Democrats
and Republicans like James Lancer, James Langford of Oklahoma. We've
watched these people intentionally fill up our country with foreigners
year after year after year after year after year. And
then the Biden administration, because it was run by evil
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communists while Joe Biden drooled on himself, they took that
and they put it into hyper drive and they ied.
They flew barbarians into this country as fast as they
possibly could, from every corner of the globe. They brought
in as many barbarians as they could, trying to break
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this country, trying to overwhelm the system, a real Cloward
Piven strategy. So now after that, the American people don't
want to hear, well, what about the farmers. There's no
appetite for that. Now there may have been maybe even
five years ago, maybe ten years ago. Definitely twenty thirty
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years ago, those kind of stances would have been more
acceptable to the American people. Okay, why he spin here.
He hasn't murdered anybody. I'm not saying I would have
ever had that stance. I'm not, but the American people
as a whole would have had much more understanding because
trust hadn't been violated yet. But when you sit back
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as an American citizen and watch Democrats and James Langford
bring as many illegals into the country as they possibly can,
you don't want to hear about farmers anymore. You don't
want to hear that the hotels need cheap maids to
clean the rooms. You don't want to hear about it.
Your patience is done. Trust is gone. Now it becomes
all of you. Get out, every one of them in
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a vacuum. Your email is understandable. Life does not exist
in a vacuum. We'll do some more. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a Wonderful Tuesday. Member. If you
miss any part of the show, you can download the
whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Let's do a few
(16:45):
more emails before we do ug the Ukraine stuff. I
don't want to go back to politics yet. I'm in
a mood, right and I'm in a mood, Jesse. I
want to request a history segment. Ooh, I just love
ancient history, especially relating to ancient rules in Carthage. Can
you do something about Hannibal, maybe about the Battle of Knee?
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All right? So I have done the Battle of Knee,
or at least I've done Hannibal before, so I'm not
gonna go into a long one. But you requested it,
and I'm kind of in that kind of mood, so
let's just discuss this. I'll be as fast as I
possibly can, as fast as I possibly can, all right.
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So remember Hindsight's twenty twenty and the war with Carthage
between Rome and Carthage, specifically the one with Hannibal. That
was the second Punic War. They're known as the Punic Wars.
There were three, the third one being the finale since
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there wasn't a Carthage by the time they were done.
The second one is the most famous one because the
second one brought maybe the most brilliant tactical military commander
in human history Hannibal. Hannibal Barka is his name. Isn't
that sick? Just see just sounds awesome. Hannibal Barka. Carthage
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was a juggernaut at this time, a superpower in their
own right. If you were handicapping this this war, I
don't know that you would choose choose Carthageerome, but you'd
say Carthage has a chance massively powerful. And remember where
the locations we're talking about here. Carthage is in North Africa,
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touching the Mediterranean. You know about Italy, the boot, you
know all that, they're on the other part of the Mediterranean.
This is really a war for control of the major
traffic hub of the ancient world. Hannibal's father was a general,
a very good one. Allegedly, Hannibal's father had multiple sons.
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They were all military can commanders, and his sons were
called because they called his father the Lion. His sons
were known as the lions brood. Isn't that sick? The
lions anyway, Hannibal hates Rome. He is born to hate Rome.
His father hated Rome. War with Rome, Hannibal creates this
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incredible army and this everybody knows about he crosses the Alps.
He has elephants, not a lot of those died. The
crossing of the Alps is an amazing story. He's fighting
with tribes, there's cold that people are falling off the cliffs.
Just Hannibal crossing the Alps would be a movie in
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and of itself. If you could go back and figure
out all the details, it would be amazing. It'd be amazing. Rome,
here's he's coming. They're a little taken aback because they
thought the Alps were impenetrable. But Hannibal crosses the Alps.
They're waiting for him. The Romans are waiting for him. Practically,
as he gets down, there's a little lag, and Roman
armies didn't really lose. Hannibal promptly beats the living crap
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out of them. Then Rome raises another army. This is
what they would do, just raise another army, Well, go
get him. They send them up there. Hannibal ambushes them
by a big lake, beats the living crap out of them.
Now Rome is petrified, and they are taking this problem very,
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very very seriously. Hannibal has These are all rough numbers,
and you can't really rely on historical numbers like this anyway,
So just it's rough. Hannibal has about fifty thousand troops.
Rome raises an eighty thousand man army. And unlike today
where you have the Lansigram types sending everyone else off
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to war every chance they get, Roman politicians believe they
had to march off themselves. A large portion of the
Roman Senate grabbed a sword and a shield and marched
off Rome. It sent its politicians at the head of
its armies to go fight when Rome had to fight.
It's a very good system, much better system than the
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one we have. They take this eighty thousand man army,
remember it's bigger than Hannibals, and they march it up
to fight Hannibal. I won't go over all the nitty
gritty details because that one I don't want to do
a super long history thing. But what Hannibal does is
so risky and brilliant. And what he does is he
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does something that military experts they say it's impossible. They
said beforehand it was impossible, and to this day they say,
I don't understand how he did it, because it's supposed
to be impossible. What Hannibal did to the Roman army
with his smaller army. Was he surrounded it? How could
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he do that? How is it possible that he did that? Well,
this is what he did. Normally back then, you would
want your strongest, most reliable troops because remember, no matter
what kind of army you have, Roman, Carthaginian, whatever, you
are going to have your A plus shock troops, and
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then you're going to have some people who they were
not quite as reliable, younger, weaker, not as well trained.
It's just like today, you're gonna have You're gonna have
your green berets, and you're gonna have the fry cook
your star. Conventional wisdom back then said you put your
strongest ground troops in the center because you need your
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center to hold. You need it all to hold, but
you really have to have your centered old. That's, of course,
how the Romans crew did their lines. Hannibal put his
weakest troops in the center, his strongest troops out on
the edges. Because Hannibal had a plan. He he stood
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behind his weak center because he couldn't have his weak
center break right away. But his plan was allow the
Romans to push into his army and plan on your
center losing ground, and it happened the Romans. Of course,
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the lines meet, but Hannibal's center starts losing ground because
that's where his weakest troops are, the Roman The Romans
put their shock troops there, they're best troops. They're they're
losing ground. But Hannibal's behind them, saying hold, hold, hold,
trying to hold things together. But what's not happening the
edges of Hannibal's army. They're not going backwards because that's
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where his best troops are. In fact, they start pushing forward.
The Romans are pushing this center backwards, and they didn't
know until it's too late. Remember they don't have some
bird's eye view back then. It's all screen and yelling
and blood and dust. Rumor is it was extremely dry
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and dusty that day, so you couldn't see what was happening.
The Romans did not realize they were pushing into a trap.
As they pushed, Hannibal's army began to envelop them, and
eventually the Romans pushed so far that Hannibal's army smaller,
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Remember fifty thousand men versus eighty thousand, completely encircled the Romans.
Then they slaughtered every single one of them. It took,
according to the writing, all day as the Romans inside
of this circle of death died to the last man.
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The Roman army was not completely wiped out. People will
see there are ten to fifteen thousand survivors. Those were
the people who were back at camp. Everyone in the
circle died because urine, so there's no escape. It was
so horrifying. They found Roman soldiers who dug a hole
for their heads in the ground and buried themselves and
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suffocated themselves rather than wait for the Carthaginians to come.
Do it with a sword and a spear tactically. It's
just beyond belief. That is the briefest possible version I
can give you of the Battle of Knee fascinating story.
If that interested you, go look into it more. Trust me,
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I gave you a thirty thousand foot few. There's more
to it, and it's awesome. It is the Jesse Kelly
Show on a lovely, lovely Tuesday. Okay, now, let's discuss
something that people are talking about today as far as
sending military aid to Ukraine. I have a statement here
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put out by actually my buddy Sean Parnell, Chief Pentagon
spokesman Sean Parnell at present, in Trump's direction, the Department
of Defense is sending additional defensive weapons to Ukraine to
ensure Ukraine can defend themselves while we work to secure
a lasting peace and ensure the killing stops. Our framework
for POTUS to evaluate military shipments across the globe remains
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in effect and is integral to our America First defense priorities. Okay,
that's the official statement. Donald Trump talked about it a bit.
Here's what he said.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
We wanted to put defensive weapons because Putin he's not
treating human beings, right, He's killing too many people. So
we're sending some defensive weapons to Ukraine, and I've approved.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
That, right. He also said this.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
That was a war that should have ever happened, and
a lot of people are dying, and it should end.
And I don't know, get we get a lot of
most thrown at us by Putin for you one another,
the truth. It's very nice all the time, but it
turns out to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Okay. I know a lot of people, myself included, are
sick of America's involvement in this whole thing. They don't
think we should have ever gotten involved. I don't think
we should have ever gotten involved. I actually believe our
involvement artificially propping up Ukraine has killed far more Ukrainians
(27:25):
than were necessary. It's not that I'm cheering for Russia
to invade anywhere, certainly not cheering for them to invade Ukraine.
But if Ukraine had just lost the region Russia wanted
to take back, and they had lost it quickly, then
we wouldn't have half a million dead bodies on our
hands that we know of. All that aside, the American
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people were tired of this, especially when inflation hasn't eased.
The American people are done with foreign involvement. They're sick
of it.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
This.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Actually, it comes back to a theme we've been on
on this show. Even if in a vacuum you could
totally justify our involvement, the American people are done with it.
After so many years, so many screw ups, so much
former foreign adventuring, so much money, loss lives, loss, blood loss.
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The American people don't want to hear it anymore. They're
tired of their blood and treasure being sent overseas. All
understandable in a vacuum, even if you can justify it,
we're not in a vacuum. So people heard Trump say
this and they got angry.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
We wanted to put defensive weapons because Putin he's not
treating human beings right, He's killing too many people. So
we're sending some defensive weapons to Ukraine, and I have
approved there.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
All right, let me explain. I don't want you to
take this as a defense, but yeah, I take that back.
You can take this as a defense. I understand what
he's doing. I understand the concerns, and I understand what
he's doing. Trump, you can hear his frustration. Has been
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unable to fulfill a campaign promise by bringing this conflict
to a clothes He promised he would end it. He did.
You can say he probably shouldn't have promised that, but
that's fine. But he said I'll end it. I'll end it.
I'll end it. In fact, he said multiple times, I'll
end it on the first day. That's what he said.
He's been unable to do so because Russia and Ukraine
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aren't done. Why do you think they haven't ended this
whole thing? Because they're not done fighting. Putin has taken
the territory he wanted. He's holding it. Ukraine Zelenski has
announced that's a red line. He can't have that territory.
So we're kind of in a rough spot. They're not
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done killing me other. They don't want to stop fighting.
Donald Trump is frustrated by that, and you can hear
his frustration in dealing with Putin, because to Trump, this
should all make sense. He has even offered Putin, he's
stangled it out there. Why don't we realign our relations.
Let's end this endless Russia America conflict thing. Let's just
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why don't we get along way, We'll do some trade.
What if we For Donald Trump, it makes all the
sense in the world. Hey, Ukraine, we'll do some mineral
rights deals with you so we can protect you. Putin,
don't think you're gonna be left on the outs. Will
open up some trade between us, we'll all make money.
This all works out. Putin doesn't think in those terms,
and you can hear Trump's frustration.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
That was a war that should have never happened, and
a lot of people are dying and it should end.
And I don't know, we get we get. We get
a lot of bolt thrown at us by Putin for
you one another, the truth, it's very nice all the time,
but it turns out to be meaningless.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
He's frustrated. Hey, okay, I'm working out a deal. Why
don't you want to stop fighting? So Putin doesn't want
to stop fighting because Putin's winning. He is he's winning,
he has held the territory he wants to hold. He
is still going after the Ukrainians. I am look, I'm
(31:25):
not defending it. I'm not defending anybody here. There's a
long history here in all kinds of ugliness, and these
two countries have been slaughtering each other as fast as
humanly possible, and they don't want to stop. And Trump
is frustrated, so he's giving Ukraine weapons you can hear it,
(31:48):
to defend themselves. He wants Putin to stop dropping missiles
into these Ukrainian cities, stop killing civilians. Is this Donald
Trump being manipulated by the deep state in order to
keep this thing going on forever? You know, the defense
and industry wants this thing to go on forever. They're
the ones that are going to get paid for all
(32:09):
these replacement missiles. I don't know. It could be. We've
watched before, as CIA, FBI, defense industry generals have lied
to Trump manipulated Trump because they want to keep things going.
He doesn't want to keep going. Is that happening here?
Could be? I don't know, but I understand what he's saying.
He's trying to force putin to the negotiating table. Because
(32:34):
money didn't get into the negotiating table. He tried to
use the carrot. Now he's using the stick. You don't
want to come to an agreement, fine, we'll send missiles
over there. That's what's happening right now. All right, Let's
talk about a little bit of that foreign investment, foreign
(32:54):
adventuring that is aggravating, to put it mildly, Let's talk
about rope, audit coyotes. Let's talk about the evil communists.
Why do they go for that system membership card,
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