December 11, 2025 • 23 mins
Orlando Sentinel columnist Scott Maxwell talks about his holiday office party, attending a hearing for the Tommy Zeigler case, and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Good kick high five A start anyway you might be
able to hide two h sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That they'll smile anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
A damn cute. Hey, great time with your bike. Drive there, Yeah,
good luck, Thank you buddy, Thanks for coming out of
your hole to make that call. You guys A cartoon
and gopher. That's what it is, all right, seven one
text us seven seven zero three one. Welcome back to
the Joke Colbert Show. Right here on Real Radio one
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your Google Maps and come on down, bree yourself a
new bicycle. It's our big bike drive out of here.
Well over two hundred, ID say, probably two hundred and
fifty plus bikes right now. We'd love to make it
to three hundred bikes. And we understand. Look that's Rosses
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a car by I know. I was just like I
know that car and we understand that. Like it's work
right now. But man, when you knock up at five o'clock,
we're gonna be here until seven, so you still have
time to get over to a target. Or Walmart your bike, chomp,
grab a bike and come on down drop it off.
You can do helmets as well. We do have a
lot of smaller bikes. If you have a twenty four
inch bike or maybe a twenty inch bike, that would
be absolutely perfect. And again that's Orlando Harley. Lots of
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cool stuff going on as well. And I heard from
our volunteers.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
If people want to volunteers to put together bikes, we
still have plenty of bikes to be put together. A
shout out to not only Kylab Prince of the Island,
Speedy Weenie Alley is they're all putting together and Danny
Danny Mering is there putting together a bike.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh wow. Yeah, man, we have the best listeners in
the world and uh we appreciate every single bit of this.
Josh Peakman bike builder. Yeah yeah, all these guys, Ben,
I'm just complete ballers. I'm ass up.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Here's just talking the one guy not building bikes, Brandon,
our promo guy.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
All right, four O seven four one, welcome back. I'm
Jim Devin Jacker here as well, and so is a
writer from the Orlando Sitting Well. You can read his
columns Wednesdays Thursdays and Sunday's giving up good line for
mister Scott Maxwell.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Just so I'm clear, you're not expecting any manual labor.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
No no, no, no, no, you didn't tell them. I'll dare
you assume that I would assume that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I mean, you don't go into the newspaper expecting
to lift anything, anything and create anything to benefit society
on site.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Maxwell, that's crazy. We actually just got lucky, did we not.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I was out and about and I thought what would
be more fun?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I gotta tell you what is gonna get you more
in the Christmas spirit than this place. You got hundreds
of bikes and it's like Santa's workshop out there in
the way.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I mean, I gonn tell you straight in.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Theol, just like a seven foot tall ail.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
But when you think about it, I mean, these guys
like you know, Ryan and Angel have been here since
five o'clock this morning, you know, doing their show and
still here on property putting together bike. So it was
riding home. Sabrina's here from the new Chunkie, I like
said Danny Myering, we'll hear it from her tomorrow for
her bit. Prince of the Island. You hear him calling
our show all the time. He's also up there Kayla
Pinkman from UH from the News Junkie. Of course he
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was on the show with him today. Plus he is
Joseph Martins with Sunday Morning coming down. It is a
team effort. Our Rep Valley is out here doing it
as well. So just a team effort here at already
one or four point one to fulfill these bike borders,
and we couldn't be happy.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think Danny brought baby Date Night with it as well.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The result of Date Night.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What's going on you, buddy? We had an office party
today at the Orlando Did you really?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
If you drive down Lee Road.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And you think about one of those like buildings that
was built in the nineteen seventies, you know.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Oh the ones you always think host telemarketers.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, the one. There's Class A, there's Class B office space. Yeah,
this is class as best us. That's AB yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
No, yeah, we're we are.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
A smaller group. But we had a pot luck today.
Most people made things. Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I was out of town, so I brought some Gideon's Cookie.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I think there's hard Yeah, you win. You spent the most,
Yeah right about that? Anybody else bought you spent the most, lord,
like six bugs of bees or something?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Are they six plus? Yeah? Six is the basic? Yeah,
weak seasonal, but their taste.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Oh my god. I remember being in line what something No, no, no,
the one that's u uh in bald when we were there, right,
I was in line and somebody had never been there.
A girl was bringing her mom there, and uh, the
line was out the door because at Gideon, for a
long time they only made a certain amount. And they
told you, just right up front, we made like two
hundred cookies a day. And wh they're so loud. We
just shut the cluck. We shut it down and we
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go home. We've we've accomplished. And the guy was defiant.
He would not make anymore. He didn't want to be
that guy. He wanted to sell those cookies so they
would be really good at all times. Then Disney money goutting.
But either way, this line would be out the door.
And this woman, this woman looked at her daughter and said,
are you kidding? We're waiting in line for half an
hour for a cookie, for a six dollar cookie. And
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the girl said, you just have to understand this. So
she gets the cookie, she gets four cookies, right, two
chocolate chip and that one thing that they have, like
the pistachio face. It's the greatest. That is one of
the greatest food items on earth. That pistachio chocolate chip
cookie at Gettings is a game changing pastry. I don't
care what you say. She handed her mom in the
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box with four cookies and you can see her hands drive.
Those four cookies weigh like eight pounds.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Another thing I like.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And they may have changed this, but years ago I
went to look up the nutritional information. Yeah, well they
actually sat on their website. If you're looking, you don't
need to know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You should avoid our product.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Just don't eat it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You care about this is where diets come to die.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, it's like it's like a a cookie dough.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah. Man, I was just talking to Scott right before
we came on the air. Beth Gasab a former writer
of The Orlando Sentinel. Yes, yeah, a good, good person.
Love watching her on Facebook. She was doing some stuff
because they were you know, the Sentinel building, of course,
was in the news last week as they started to
finally develop that property.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I didn't realize it was two acres.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I mean, the value of that where it is is
I can't even imagine what that property is worth. But
she kind of did a little retrospect thing of when
she was there at the Sentinel. And I felt bad
for you guys, man, I really did. I mean for
you guys who you know, that's the paper that kind
of built Orlando, and you know, looking at those photographs
of the press pit and the press is gone and
the writer's pit and you know, all that stuff is
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in disarray and stuff, it was kind of a wild feeling.
I really felt bad for you guys. It was just
kind of a wild thing.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I didn't know you invited me down here for the
Ghosts of Careers Past episode, but uh yeah, no, uh
it was it was uh yeah, that's what he would
warn you, don't go into newspaper.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That building was gigantic. It was the size of them.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
All.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
The printing press was four stories tall.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And as you said, it was two city blocks, two
New York city blocks. And I was telling Jim when
I started, there were hundreds of people employed there. We
had a parking lot that had like four hundred spaces
and if you got there after nine or ten am,
you were out of.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
A parket space.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Really yeah, how crazy? Is that man.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Our office party today had about forty people. A.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's like a radio. I mean we had
two hundred day I've walked through your offices. I know
what it. Yeah, which at one point I was just
asking Raquel the other day, who was like the queen
of everything at iHeartRadio and Orlando. That's a good title, yeah,
because she is. And I think at one point we
had about two hundred and thirty five employees and I
think right now we have about sixty five or something
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like that. So it's the businesses is changing. I mean
it is a change, you know, it's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But you know what, I think that and all four
of us have been doing this for a long time time.
And the reason we're in it it's not I mean,
it's not for the well maybe it's for the money.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Guy I had to read the room.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred dollars still means a
lot over here, Jack, I have the worst car of
all of us.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, but I mean I could do something else, but
I believe it, and it's it's in my blood. It's
for better or for worse, and uh, you know what,
and and we all get to have one thing we
have in common is nobody tells us what to say
or what to do. And there you say, you can't
put a price on freedom.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I talked to.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I hear from people every day who say thank you
for saying the things I can't, And I say, we
why can't you? And they're like, oh, I wouldn't be
able to keep my job I did. Uh. But I
mean there's a lot of problems, and I think that
one of the missions of news papers is to uh
comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yes, yes, And that's why even if you went from
two city blocks, you know, and now you have sixty people,
those sixty people, I hope they hang on as long
as they can because that's the difference maker.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Now we've got some mean, maybe we've got some loyal
readers that have been yeah, I mean since we were
the Central Star. Yeah, that have been reading. That's part
of their daily routine. And I feel an obligation sometimes
too much of one truth be told. It's a little
stress and not to sound too you know, self pitying,
but I mean I worked about eighty hours a week,
and uh, it's because we don't I still believe in
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what I do, yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And and we're glad we find anything out. Yeah yeah.
When you write like Wednesdays and Thursdays and Sundays, the
very first thing I do is go and read your column.
That's the first thing I do in the morning is
read your column for one thing. On Thursday or on
Wednesdays when you're gonna be here, I've got you read
it because that's what we're talking about. But even outside
of that, you know, I read it simply because I
know you well enough to know so that you don't,
you know, play happenstance with the truth. And if you're
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out there reporting, you know you're out there reporting on it,
you're doing it because it means something for our community.
And that's the thing I love.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And you know, I get to do great things. Also
last week, you know, one of the things I did
is I went down and sat in the courtroom where
the Tommy Ziggler trial.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Let's go wow, and was that all right?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And I've written about this case I don't know how
many times over the course of a decade or two,
but finally I decided, well, there's a.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Hearing on it. I want to go see it. And
the people involved.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Tommy Ziggler is like eighty years old, been on death
row for fifty forty nine.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Half a century serving death row.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
In behind him is a cousin who was involved in
the case. She's eighty something, she's been to every hearing.
In front of me is two relatives of the victims
and their eighties. Sitting next to him is his eighty
three year old attorney, and Blue has been fighting who
lost the first case when he's doing it and uh,
I mean, that's it's fun.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Isn't the right word.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But it's fascinating to be on the front lines of
his to see that going on. I mean, that's a
fascinating case. A lot of people have strong opinions. They
say he's guilty, he's innocent. I don't even think I
have a strong opinion. What I do have is an
opinion that after fifty years, if we're still not sure
and there's still a lot of questions, yes, maybe we
shouldn't be executing this man. And there are some weird
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things about this case, including you may remember the jury
didn't originally convict him.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
The judge ordered one of the jurors gave her a
valuable right.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
He said, take this and then then come back and
she's like, Okay, now I agree. And the judge the
jury originally said.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
That wasn't wasn't wasn't taken off the bench for giving
a jury value and is.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Here by any chance to do anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean, he's not alive anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But Tommy Ziggler had said before the trial began began,
this judge doesn't like me. We were involved in another
case and we were on opposite sides. He shouldn't be presiding.
Oh he got this adventures, but but I even got
into the big one. At the end of the whole case.
They did convict him, but the jury said he is
not eligible for the death penalty. The judge of ruldom,
you can't even do that in most states, you can't
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do that anymore. The jury said he deserves life in prison.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Judge said, nah, kill him now.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And for people, he was charged with killing four people in.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
His furniture store, his wife and their parents and and
and yeah, and a customer. And the prosecutors said that
it was a plot by Tommy, who had recently taken
out insurance policy on his wife, basically for money. And
Tommy said it was a Builier, call him Tommy. He's
like older than my grandma, my mother. Tommy said that
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he was there when somebody came in and tried to
rob the elevate, excuse me, robbed the furniture store at
Winter Gardens where it took and shot him and he
was shot in the stomach. Tops he shot himself, he says,
he got so. Anyway, there's been a lot, there's been
a lot of discrepancy. But just now, fifty years after
this crime, on Christmas Eve, were almost at the anniversary. Actually, yeah,
nineteen seventy four. It was fifty years after that crime.
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They're still getting back DNA of it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So we've never tested. That's the thing that kills me
the most.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Of course, I was just about to say the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That is the exonerator. I mean, DNA is the exonerator.
There is no great area with DNA. It is or
it is not. And that's the part that throws the
big branch in it for me, because some of the
other stuff is kind of sketchy, being honest. You know,
who robs an effing furniture store? Are they known for
having tons of cash? I even thought about that. Who
robs a furniture store. They're not known for having a
bunch of cash. Most furnitures financed, even back in the day,
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most furniture was financed. It's weird that there's a furniture
store robbery for one thing, and then secondly some of
the other stuff was kind of sketchy as well. The
insurance company. But man, the DNA comes back and there's
no match. I mean, there's no way to prove that
the guy shot himself. I don't know. Did they do
powder on his hand.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
One of the things that they came back is they
basically said that none of the victim's bloods that Tommy
said that the prosecutor said he physically attacked, had it.
There was none of it on his only his saying
you can't you can't kill somebody in this kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Violent y not have any statue.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But then also to listen to some of this, they
got a prosecutor, I mean, they got an investigator who
saying this was slot shot, shoddy police work, and they say, well,
were you an.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Expert on Winter Garden police protocol?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
In nineteen seventy four, I was sitting in the corner
room and thinking, who the hell is a nice pert.
I mean, really, who are you going to get to
testify in twenty twenty five about what Winter Garden was
supposed to.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Be doing in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And by the way, why is Winter Gardens police protocol
different than any other police That's actually what the that's
actually what the detective said.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
He said, yeah, there's no other universal way you collect evidence.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And there were weird things like the shirt evidence that
Tommy had on like one of the officers, I just
took it home. Yeah, yeah, took it home souvenir. And
and so he's like and then and then it says, well,
that's not standard protocol. And then the prosecutor says, well,
was that not standard protocol? And maybe it's not in
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Miami in twenty twenty four? What about Winter Garden? He's like,
I don't think that's standard protocol anywhere?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Sure, how about taking winerguard saying evidence protocol? This evidence protocol, say,
cops take stuff home.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But but the bottom line is when you're sitting there
and thinking, man, we are watching half a century later
and we're still not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Uh, that makes me uncomfortable and what does it even matter?
He's eighty five years older. They still seeking to put
this guy to death.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And is absolutely absolutely on oxy He's dead already.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
This guy's been dead for years.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
On oxygen, in a wheelchair, on ninety pounds, ninety five pounds.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, yeah, he look, I look. I mean you and I,
you know, of all the things that we agree about
and see, I I on you and I disagree about
the death penalty. But even in this case, I would
think this guy is dead. I mean, they they have
taken his life from him. He is dead.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
The other thing that would appeal to you, and that
one reason there is a growing movement conservatives is that
it is expensive and the amount of money that's actually
that's probably how I'm going to begin my column that
I'm writing about this on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I counted all the people that were in the courtroom.
There's a swat team that was there. There's a bailiff,
there's uh.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's actually it's a third team this but yeah, it's
basically the equivalent of yeah, there were three that that
at least three of them that transport him from there.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
There's deputies, there's the judge, there's the court reporters.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
There's four sets of prosecutors, two from the state to
the local office, two from up there, a firm up
in New York has spent millions of dollars in pro
bono defending him. But the amount of money that the
state and the has spent on this is millions, millions
of dollars.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
And yet you know, you have Monique Morrel at one point,
you know, ruling that no, this evidence doesn't need to
be retested.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I'm with Jimmy.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I think let the science be the final say. If
there's evidence that still hasn't been been tested, surely in
twenty twenty five and two.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Years ago, prosecutors were still arguing not to test the evidence.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah, and that exactly that kind of broke my brain.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I would they don't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
They were argument that it's it was already a conclusive conviction,
so we don't need to that. Everybody would ask for
more evidence to be tested. Well, if I was on
death road and I thought it exonerate.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, yeah, testing, Yeah, you know over here, Hello, I'm
gonna be protest that. One want to test junkie at
that point?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, So I mean that's fast. I'm right about that
for Sunday. But those stories I mean, it's interesting. I
love hearing from people, and so.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Also we'll remembera on time about or fine, don't you
tell me that. You don't tell me that, I'll tell
you when we're.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I'm taking better orders of the dog.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We're never gonna talk about your best things to makeing
Orlando great? The hundred lines. Oh yeah, you're never gonna
do that, because I think you're either out that week
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
What you like, what didn't you like?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Who was on the cruise? I was gonna ask not
about not about the list per se, but how long
does it take you to to compile that? What what
comes into play for that?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
For you?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Do people pitch you for that? I mean, how's that?
And how did that come about? By the way, it's
one of your more more red and famous columns of
a year.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I don't know I was doing something.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I don't remember how it came about. It's been fifteen
years now. Uh gosh, I should come up fake something
a good story about it. But I started just pitching
it out there. When you ask, how do people come
up with it?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yes, they come up with it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And I have gotten over the like in the year,
I will get a thousand suggestions, and I get them
for your Facebook, I get them for your Twitter, I
get them email, I get them the and I compile
them all into a file.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I do all this.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I wish I had an assistant. And the file is
you know, ten feet tall. And then I just start editing,
you know, duplications, get rid of there. If there's a
lot of push, like like one of the things that
a lot of people, more people voted for this year
than anything else.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I don't even know if you've ever been there, Orlando
Wetlands Park.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Have you ever drive?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's out in East Store, East Orlando. No, yeah, I
would say that I got more votes than anything else.
I'll be damn yeah. And and the birds out there
are kind of crazy. Everything if you name it, there's
the anyway.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
But the reason I asked is I figured there'd be
at least two or three or four or ten politicians
that would have their aids type you a quick note saying, hey,
you know, my guy, I did this this year.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I did this. I never. I do two things.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
The other list I do every year is ten people
who make were Lando a better place. And in both
of those I vow no politics politician.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Even if I like you, that's not what I that's
not what I want. I have had people nominate themselves
for I'd.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Like to stop.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You're not supposed to reveal that I'm one of the
best people. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And there's a few I usually try to throw a
few unique food things out there that maybe people haven't tried.
This year it was the plantain pancakes of lamp and Shade.
I don't know if you've ever had those. No, I
haven't eaten there.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Every time I tried to go there, I don't have
any seats. Like, Yeah, I've literally tried to go there
three times. I can't find a reservation.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Oh, we'll get you, We'll get you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I know, I just make a reservation. Well, you know,
sometimes we're procrastinators. We'll wait for the day before. Inevitably,
the three times we fried, there was nothing there. It's
top with coconut whipped cream and it's Uh. Amy Drew
wrote about it. I went into and thought it was solid,
very nice. When it comes to your list for the
things in Orlando, do you think make it great? Do
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you have a personal list? Can you give me a
couple of those?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
But you think about other dishes.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I've put the ravenous pigs old Fashionable. Oh my god,
it's so good, the vanilla maple bacon.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Everything in that building is great. But I mean, yeah,
that's really really good.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I like I like the Tsisians. I like the parades.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I like the fact that there are so many little
dorky hometown parade and I've seed them, and those are
the best.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
They're the best. They're like the best in show.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Might I suggest Geneva's. Oh yeah, next time you want
to step out into that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Rural area and see, do I need a Confederate You
do not need Okay, you need a seat and a gun.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
O god, it's just very interesting. By the way, I'll
give you another food heads up for you. We'll get
you out of here, all right, No, I'm good. All right,
here's what you gotta do one. Oh, no, you gotta go.
I hope they still do this because they've done this
for years and they only do it during the time
of year. If you want the single best hot chocolate
that you will ever have on near your life, that's
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what I'd like, and it's close to you. Go to
Black Rooster, Tacorea.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
What hot chocolate.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Black Rooster Tacorea makes a Mexican chocolate hot chocolate, a
true hot chocolate from like you know, because you realize
that you know chocolate. We were in Cosmelo for that
cruise thing and we like actually took the beans and
roasted them and made our own chocolate and whole nine yards.
It is a completely different machine. You will never in
your life drink anything like that. It is. It is
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a gate. It is a Gideon's cookie and a cup.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I may get it on my way home.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
If they if they're serving you, because sometimes like it's
like a it's only a seasonal thing. They only make
it a little bit of day and you've got to
get in there and get it. But we've had it
two years and I'm telling you, my wife and I
when we drink it, your eyes roll back in your head.
It is a completely different machine, all right.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I will try and also sleep on their block of mold.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Oh everything in that place is great. I mean everything
in that talka is absolutely great. It's unbelievable that that
that port troller thing they have as well.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
God dog, you know, it's interesting because people, you know,
Columbia is known for coffee, right, right, But actually the
drink that you have in the afternoon is hot chalk.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah it is. Yeah, that's a traditional drink at Columbia.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
It's hot chocolate. And there's a special pot in this
wooden spindle that you use and you boil the milk
and then you put these bars of chocolate in.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's it is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Maybe that needs to be on next year's list. You
do it, I think, so you gotta go try it.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You should call them the teef. They have it. Seriously.
When you get out to your car, just give them
a buzz and see if they're serving it, and then
go get something.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I will try it, and I'm not kidding. I might
get it too.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
He's got a gideon Cookie in there that needs some chocolate.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna consume about twenty two hundred.
I made a down payment on a Gideon's cook and
now I'm gonna consume about three thousand calories and chocolate.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You got to get back.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Four one down at Orlando, Harley, the Big Bake Drive continues.
Guys will be here till seven o'clock tonight. Don't let
anything scary away. We have plenty of bikes here, plenty
of people to put your bikes together. Come on down
brand new bike right here Orlando, Harley. The bike drive
is going. We would like to get the three hundred bikes.
Were not that far away, guys, so we only need
a few of you to get activated and come on
down with a new bike at Orlando. Harley Davidson back
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in a second with more than Jim Colbert Show
Good kick high five A start anyway you might be
able to hide two h sorry.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That they'll smile anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
A damn cute. Hey, great time with your bike. Drive there, Yeah,
good luck, Thank you buddy, Thanks for coming out of
your hole to make that call. You guys A cartoon
and gopher. That's what it is, all right, seven one
text us seven seven zero three one. Welcome back to
the Joke Colbert Show. Right here on Real Radio one
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O four point one. We are broadcasting life for Orlando,
Harley Davidson, Downtown Orlando, right right, oh five four Man,
you can't miss it. Just popping into your ways or
your Google Maps and come on down, bree yourself a
new bicycle. It's our big bike drive out of here.
Well over two hundred, ID say, probably two hundred and
fifty plus bikes right now. We'd love to make it
to three hundred bikes. And we understand. Look that's Rosses
(01:19):
a car by I know. I was just like I
know that car and we understand that. Like it's work
right now. But man, when you knock up at five o'clock,
we're gonna be here until seven, so you still have
time to get over to a target. Or Walmart your bike, chomp,
grab a bike and come on down drop it off.
You can do helmets as well. We do have a
lot of smaller bikes. If you have a twenty four
inch bike or maybe a twenty inch bike, that would
be absolutely perfect. And again that's Orlando Harley. Lots of
(01:41):
cool stuff going on as well. And I heard from
our volunteers.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
If people want to volunteers to put together bikes, we
still have plenty of bikes to be put together. A
shout out to not only Kylab Prince of the Island,
Speedy Weenie Alley is they're all putting together and Danny
Danny Mering is there putting together a bike.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Oh wow. Yeah, man, we have the best listeners in
the world and uh we appreciate every single bit of this.
Josh Peakman bike builder. Yeah yeah, all these guys, Ben,
I'm just complete ballers. I'm ass up.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Here's just talking the one guy not building bikes, Brandon,
our promo guy.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
All right, four O seven four one, welcome back. I'm
Jim Devin Jacker here as well, and so is a
writer from the Orlando Sitting Well. You can read his
columns Wednesdays Thursdays and Sunday's giving up good line for
mister Scott Maxwell.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Just so I'm clear, you're not expecting any manual labor.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
No no, no, no, no, you didn't tell them. I'll dare
you assume that I would assume that.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, I mean, you don't go into the newspaper expecting
to lift anything, anything and create anything to benefit society
on site.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Maxwell, that's crazy. We actually just got lucky, did we not.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
I was out and about and I thought what would
be more fun?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
I gotta tell you what is gonna get you more
in the Christmas spirit than this place. You got hundreds
of bikes and it's like Santa's workshop out there in
the way.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I mean, I gonn tell you straight in.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Theol, just like a seven foot tall ail.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
But when you think about it, I mean, these guys
like you know, Ryan and Angel have been here since
five o'clock this morning, you know, doing their show and
still here on property putting together bike. So it was
riding home. Sabrina's here from the new Chunkie, I like
said Danny Myering, we'll hear it from her tomorrow for
her bit. Prince of the Island. You hear him calling
our show all the time. He's also up there Kayla
Pinkman from UH from the News Junkie. Of course he
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was on the show with him today. Plus he is
Joseph Martins with Sunday Morning coming down. It is a
team effort. Our Rep Valley is out here doing it
as well. So just a team effort here at already
one or four point one to fulfill these bike borders,
and we couldn't be happy.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
I think Danny brought baby Date Night with it as well.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
The result of Date Night.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What's going on you, buddy? We had an office party
today at the Orlando Did you really?
Speaker 5 (03:49):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
If you drive down Lee Road.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And you think about one of those like buildings that
was built in the nineteen seventies, you know.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Oh the ones you always think host telemarketers.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, the one. There's Class A, there's Class B office space. Yeah,
this is class as best us. That's AB yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
No, yeah, we're we are.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
A smaller group. But we had a pot luck today.
Most people made things. Uh.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I was out of town, so I brought some Gideon's Cookie.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I think there's hard Yeah, you win. You spent the most,
Yeah right about that? Anybody else bought you spent the most, lord,
like six bugs of bees or something?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Are they six plus? Yeah? Six is the basic? Yeah,
weak seasonal, but their taste.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Oh my god. I remember being in line what something No, no, no,
the one that's u uh in bald when we were there, right,
I was in line and somebody had never been there.
A girl was bringing her mom there, and uh, the
line was out the door because at Gideon, for a
long time they only made a certain amount. And they
told you, just right up front, we made like two
hundred cookies a day. And wh they're so loud. We
just shut the cluck. We shut it down and we
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go home. We've we've accomplished. And the guy was defiant.
He would not make anymore. He didn't want to be
that guy. He wanted to sell those cookies so they
would be really good at all times. Then Disney money goutting.
But either way, this line would be out the door.
And this woman, this woman looked at her daughter and said,
are you kidding? We're waiting in line for half an
hour for a cookie, for a six dollar cookie. And
(05:20):
the girl said, you just have to understand this. So
she gets the cookie, she gets four cookies, right, two
chocolate chip and that one thing that they have, like
the pistachio face. It's the greatest. That is one of
the greatest food items on earth. That pistachio chocolate chip
cookie at Gettings is a game changing pastry. I don't
care what you say. She handed her mom in the
(05:40):
box with four cookies and you can see her hands drive.
Those four cookies weigh like eight pounds.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Another thing I like.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And they may have changed this, but years ago I
went to look up the nutritional information. Yeah, well they
actually sat on their website. If you're looking, you don't
need to know.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
You should avoid our product.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
Just don't eat it.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
You care about this is where diets come to die.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Yeah, it's like it's like a a cookie dough.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah. Man, I was just talking to Scott right before
we came on the air. Beth Gasab a former writer
of The Orlando Sentinel. Yes, yeah, a good, good person.
Love watching her on Facebook. She was doing some stuff
because they were you know, the Sentinel building, of course,
was in the news last week as they started to
finally develop that property.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I didn't realize it was two acres.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I mean, the value of that where it is is
I can't even imagine what that property is worth. But
she kind of did a little retrospect thing of when
she was there at the Sentinel. And I felt bad
for you guys, man, I really did. I mean for
you guys who you know, that's the paper that kind
of built Orlando, and you know, looking at those photographs
of the press pit and the press is gone and
the writer's pit and you know, all that stuff is
(06:50):
in disarray and stuff, it was kind of a wild feeling.
I really felt bad for you guys. It was just
kind of a wild thing.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I didn't know you invited me down here for the
Ghosts of Careers Past episode, but uh yeah, no, uh
it was it was uh yeah, that's what he would
warn you, don't go into newspaper.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
That building was gigantic. It was the size of them.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
All.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
The printing press was four stories tall.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
And as you said, it was two city blocks, two
New York city blocks. And I was telling Jim when
I started, there were hundreds of people employed there. We
had a parking lot that had like four hundred spaces
and if you got there after nine or ten am,
you were out of.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
A parket space.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Really yeah, how crazy? Is that man.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Our office party today had about forty people. A.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's like a radio. I mean we had
two hundred day I've walked through your offices. I know
what it. Yeah, which at one point I was just
asking Raquel the other day, who was like the queen
of everything at iHeartRadio and Orlando. That's a good title, yeah,
because she is. And I think at one point we
had about two hundred and thirty five employees and I
think right now we have about sixty five or something
(08:01):
like that. So it's the businesses is changing. I mean
it is a change, you know, it's just how it is.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
But you know what, I think that and all four
of us have been doing this for a long time time.
And the reason we're in it it's not I mean,
it's not for the well maybe it's for the money.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Guy I had to read the room.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred dollars still means a
lot over here, Jack, I have the worst car of
all of us.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
No, but I mean I could do something else, but
I believe it, and it's it's in my blood. It's
for better or for worse, and uh, you know what,
and and we all get to have one thing we
have in common is nobody tells us what to say
or what to do. And there you say, you can't
put a price on freedom.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
I talked to.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
I hear from people every day who say thank you
for saying the things I can't, And I say, we
why can't you? And they're like, oh, I wouldn't be
able to keep my job I did. Uh. But I
mean there's a lot of problems, and I think that
one of the missions of news papers is to uh
comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yes, yes, And that's why even if you went from
two city blocks, you know, and now you have sixty people,
those sixty people, I hope they hang on as long
as they can because that's the difference maker.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Now we've got some mean, maybe we've got some loyal
readers that have been yeah, I mean since we were
the Central Star. Yeah, that have been reading. That's part
of their daily routine. And I feel an obligation sometimes
too much of one truth be told. It's a little
stress and not to sound too you know, self pitying,
but I mean I worked about eighty hours a week,
and uh, it's because we don't I still believe in
(09:40):
what I do, yeah, man.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And and we're glad we find anything out. Yeah yeah.
When you write like Wednesdays and Thursdays and Sundays, the
very first thing I do is go and read your column.
That's the first thing I do in the morning is
read your column for one thing. On Thursday or on
Wednesdays when you're gonna be here, I've got you read
it because that's what we're talking about. But even outside
of that, you know, I read it simply because I
know you well enough to know so that you don't,
you know, play happenstance with the truth. And if you're
(10:02):
out there reporting, you know you're out there reporting on it,
you're doing it because it means something for our community.
And that's the thing I love.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
And you know, I get to do great things. Also
last week, you know, one of the things I did
is I went down and sat in the courtroom where
the Tommy Ziggler trial.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Let's go wow, and was that all right?
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And I've written about this case I don't know how
many times over the course of a decade or two,
but finally I decided, well, there's a.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Hearing on it. I want to go see it. And
the people involved.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Tommy Ziggler is like eighty years old, been on death
row for fifty forty nine.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Half a century serving death row.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
In behind him is a cousin who was involved in
the case. She's eighty something, she's been to every hearing.
In front of me is two relatives of the victims
and their eighties. Sitting next to him is his eighty
three year old attorney, and Blue has been fighting who
lost the first case when he's doing it and uh,
I mean, that's it's fun.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
Isn't the right word.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
But it's fascinating to be on the front lines of
his to see that going on. I mean, that's a
fascinating case. A lot of people have strong opinions. They
say he's guilty, he's innocent. I don't even think I
have a strong opinion. What I do have is an
opinion that after fifty years, if we're still not sure
and there's still a lot of questions, yes, maybe we
shouldn't be executing this man. And there are some weird
(11:19):
things about this case, including you may remember the jury
didn't originally convict him.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
The judge ordered one of the jurors gave her a
valuable right.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
He said, take this and then then come back and
she's like, Okay, now I agree. And the judge the
jury originally said.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
That wasn't wasn't wasn't taken off the bench for giving
a jury value and is.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Here by any chance to do anymore.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I mean, he's not alive anymore.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But Tommy Ziggler had said before the trial began began,
this judge doesn't like me. We were involved in another
case and we were on opposite sides. He shouldn't be presiding.
Oh he got this adventures, but but I even got
into the big one. At the end of the whole case.
They did convict him, but the jury said he is
not eligible for the death penalty. The judge of ruldom,
you can't even do that in most states, you can't
(12:06):
do that anymore. The jury said he deserves life in prison.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Judge said, nah, kill him now.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And for people, he was charged with killing four people in.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
His furniture store, his wife and their parents and and
and yeah, and a customer. And the prosecutors said that
it was a plot by Tommy, who had recently taken
out insurance policy on his wife, basically for money. And
Tommy said it was a Builier, call him Tommy. He's
like older than my grandma, my mother. Tommy said that
(12:38):
he was there when somebody came in and tried to
rob the elevate, excuse me, robbed the furniture store at
Winter Gardens where it took and shot him and he
was shot in the stomach. Tops he shot himself, he says,
he got so. Anyway, there's been a lot, there's been
a lot of discrepancy. But just now, fifty years after
this crime, on Christmas Eve, were almost at the anniversary. Actually, yeah,
nineteen seventy four. It was fifty years after that crime.
(13:02):
They're still getting back DNA of it.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
So we've never tested. That's the thing that kills me
the most.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Of course, I was just about to say the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
That is the exonerator. I mean, DNA is the exonerator.
There is no great area with DNA. It is or
it is not. And that's the part that throws the
big branch in it for me, because some of the
other stuff is kind of sketchy, being honest. You know,
who robs an effing furniture store? Are they known for
having tons of cash? I even thought about that. Who
robs a furniture store. They're not known for having a
bunch of cash. Most furnitures financed, even back in the day,
(13:29):
most furniture was financed. It's weird that there's a furniture
store robbery for one thing, and then secondly some of
the other stuff was kind of sketchy as well. The
insurance company. But man, the DNA comes back and there's
no match. I mean, there's no way to prove that
the guy shot himself. I don't know. Did they do
powder on his hand.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
One of the things that they came back is they
basically said that none of the victim's bloods that Tommy
said that the prosecutor said he physically attacked, had it.
There was none of it on his only his saying
you can't you can't kill somebody in this kind of.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Violent y not have any statue.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
But then also to listen to some of this, they
got a prosecutor, I mean, they got an investigator who
saying this was slot shot, shoddy police work, and they say, well,
were you an.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Expert on Winter Garden police protocol?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
In nineteen seventy four, I was sitting in the corner
room and thinking, who the hell is a nice pert.
I mean, really, who are you going to get to
testify in twenty twenty five about what Winter Garden was
supposed to.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
Be doing in nineteen seventy four.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And by the way, why is Winter Gardens police protocol
different than any other police That's actually what the that's
actually what the detective said.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
He said, yeah, there's no other universal way you collect evidence.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
And there were weird things like the shirt evidence that
Tommy had on like one of the officers, I just
took it home. Yeah, yeah, took it home souvenir. And
and so he's like and then and then it says, well,
that's not standard protocol. And then the prosecutor says, well,
was that not standard protocol? And maybe it's not in
(14:54):
Miami in twenty twenty four? What about Winter Garden? He's like,
I don't think that's standard protocol anywhere?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Sure, how about taking winerguard saying evidence protocol? This evidence protocol, say,
cops take stuff home.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But but the bottom line is when you're sitting there
and thinking, man, we are watching half a century later
and we're still not one hundred percent sure.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Uh, that makes me uncomfortable and what does it even matter?
He's eighty five years older. They still seeking to put
this guy to death.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And is absolutely absolutely on oxy He's dead already.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
This guy's been dead for years.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
On oxygen, in a wheelchair, on ninety pounds, ninety five pounds.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
Yeah, yeah, he look, I look. I mean you and I,
you know, of all the things that we agree about
and see, I I on you and I disagree about
the death penalty. But even in this case, I would
think this guy is dead. I mean, they they have
taken his life from him. He is dead.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
The other thing that would appeal to you, and that
one reason there is a growing movement conservatives is that
it is expensive and the amount of money that's actually
that's probably how I'm going to begin my column that
I'm writing about this on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I counted all the people that were in the courtroom.
There's a swat team that was there. There's a bailiff,
there's uh.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's actually it's a third team this but yeah, it's
basically the equivalent of yeah, there were three that that
at least three of them that transport him from there.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
There's deputies, there's the judge, there's the court reporters.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
There's four sets of prosecutors, two from the state to
the local office, two from up there, a firm up
in New York has spent millions of dollars in pro
bono defending him. But the amount of money that the
state and the has spent on this is millions, millions
of dollars.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
And yet you know, you have Monique Morrel at one point,
you know, ruling that no, this evidence doesn't need to
be retested.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
I'm with Jimmy.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
I think let the science be the final say. If
there's evidence that still hasn't been been tested, surely in
twenty twenty five and two.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Years ago, prosecutors were still arguing not to test the evidence.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah, and that exactly that kind of broke my brain.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I would they don't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
They were argument that it's it was already a conclusive conviction,
so we don't need to that. Everybody would ask for
more evidence to be tested. Well, if I was on
death road and I thought it exonerate.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yes, yeah, testing, Yeah, you know over here, Hello, I'm
gonna be protest that. One want to test junkie at
that point?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Yeah, So I mean that's fast. I'm right about that
for Sunday. But those stories I mean, it's interesting. I
love hearing from people, and so.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Also we'll remembera on time about or fine, don't you
tell me that. You don't tell me that, I'll tell
you when we're.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
I'm taking better orders of the dog.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
We're never gonna talk about your best things to makeing
Orlando great? The hundred lines. Oh yeah, you're never gonna
do that, because I think you're either out that week
or something like that.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
What you like, what didn't you like?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Who was on the cruise? I was gonna ask not
about not about the list per se, but how long
does it take you to to compile that? What what
comes into play for that?
Speaker 1 (17:45):
For you?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Do people pitch you for that? I mean, how's that?
And how did that come about? By the way, it's
one of your more more red and famous columns of
a year.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
I don't know I was doing something.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I don't remember how it came about. It's been fifteen
years now. Uh gosh, I should come up fake something
a good story about it. But I started just pitching
it out there. When you ask, how do people come
up with it?
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yes, they come up with it.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
And I have gotten over the like in the year,
I will get a thousand suggestions, and I get them
for your Facebook, I get them for your Twitter, I
get them email, I get them the and I compile
them all into a file.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
I do all this.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
I wish I had an assistant. And the file is
you know, ten feet tall. And then I just start editing,
you know, duplications, get rid of there. If there's a
lot of push, like like one of the things that
a lot of people, more people voted for this year
than anything else.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
I don't even know if you've ever been there, Orlando
Wetlands Park.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Have you ever drive?
Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's out in East Store, East Orlando. No, yeah, I
would say that I got more votes than anything else.
I'll be damn yeah. And and the birds out there
are kind of crazy. Everything if you name it, there's
the anyway.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
But the reason I asked is I figured there'd be
at least two or three or four or ten politicians
that would have their aids type you a quick note saying, hey,
you know, my guy, I did this this year.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
I did this. I never. I do two things.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
The other list I do every year is ten people
who make were Lando a better place. And in both
of those I vow no politics politician.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
I don't care.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Even if I like you, that's not what I that's
not what I want. I have had people nominate themselves
for I'd.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Like to stop.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
You're not supposed to reveal that I'm one of the
best people. It doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
And there's a few I usually try to throw a
few unique food things out there that maybe people haven't tried.
This year it was the plantain pancakes of lamp and Shade.
I don't know if you've ever had those. No, I
haven't eaten there.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Every time I tried to go there, I don't have
any seats. Like, Yeah, I've literally tried to go there
three times. I can't find a reservation.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Oh, we'll get you, We'll get you.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I know, I just make a reservation. Well, you know,
sometimes we're procrastinators. We'll wait for the day before. Inevitably,
the three times we fried, there was nothing there. It's
top with coconut whipped cream and it's Uh. Amy Drew
wrote about it. I went into and thought it was solid,
very nice. When it comes to your list for the
things in Orlando, do you think make it great? Do
(20:06):
you have a personal list? Can you give me a
couple of those?
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
But you think about other dishes.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
I've put the ravenous pigs old Fashionable. Oh my god,
it's so good, the vanilla maple bacon.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Everything in that building is great. But I mean, yeah,
that's really really good.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
I like I like the Tsisians. I like the parades.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
I like the fact that there are so many little
dorky hometown parade and I've seed them, and those are
the best.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
They're the best. They're like the best in show.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Might I suggest Geneva's. Oh yeah, next time you want
to step out into that.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Rural area and see, do I need a Confederate You
do not need Okay, you need a seat and a gun.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
O god, it's just very interesting. By the way, I'll
give you another food heads up for you. We'll get
you out of here, all right, No, I'm good. All right,
here's what you gotta do one. Oh, no, you gotta go.
I hope they still do this because they've done this
for years and they only do it during the time
of year. If you want the single best hot chocolate
that you will ever have on near your life, that's
(21:12):
what I'd like, and it's close to you. Go to
Black Rooster, Tacorea.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
What hot chocolate.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Black Rooster Tacorea makes a Mexican chocolate hot chocolate, a
true hot chocolate from like you know, because you realize
that you know chocolate. We were in Cosmelo for that
cruise thing and we like actually took the beans and
roasted them and made our own chocolate and whole nine yards.
It is a completely different machine. You will never in
your life drink anything like that. It is. It is
(21:41):
a gate. It is a Gideon's cookie and a cup.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
I may get it on my way home.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
If they if they're serving you, because sometimes like it's
like a it's only a seasonal thing. They only make
it a little bit of day and you've got to
get in there and get it. But we've had it
two years and I'm telling you, my wife and I
when we drink it, your eyes roll back in your head.
It is a completely different machine, all right.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
I will try and also sleep on their block of mold.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Oh everything in that place is great. I mean everything
in that talka is absolutely great. It's unbelievable that that
that port troller thing they have as well.
Speaker 5 (22:08):
God dog, you know, it's interesting because people, you know,
Columbia is known for coffee, right, right, But actually the
drink that you have in the afternoon is hot chalk.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah it is. Yeah, that's a traditional drink at Columbia.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
It's hot chocolate. And there's a special pot in this
wooden spindle that you use and you boil the milk
and then you put these bars of chocolate in.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
It's it is.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Maybe that needs to be on next year's list. You
do it, I think, so you gotta go try it.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
You should call them the teef. They have it. Seriously.
When you get out to your car, just give them
a buzz and see if they're serving it, and then
go get something.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
I will try it, and I'm not kidding. I might
get it too.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
He's got a gideon Cookie in there that needs some chocolate.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm gonna consume about twenty two hundred.
I made a down payment on a Gideon's cook and
now I'm gonna consume about three thousand calories and chocolate.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
You got to get back.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Four one down at Orlando, Harley, the Big Bake Drive continues.
Guys will be here till seven o'clock tonight. Don't let
anything scary away. We have plenty of bikes here, plenty
of people to put your bikes together. Come on down
brand new bike right here Orlando, Harley. The bike drive
is going. We would like to get the three hundred bikes.
Were not that far away, guys, so we only need
a few of you to get activated and come on
down with a new bike at Orlando. Harley Davidson back
(23:14):
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