December 17, 2025 • 15 mins
Orlando Sentinel columnist Scott Maxwell writes about new reporting and unearthed records showing that Governor Ron DeSantis and his political allies took more than $35 million worth of public money last year and used it to campaign against ballot initiatives on abortion and marijuana.
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Welcome back to the Jim Colbert Show, Real Radio one
four point one. I'm Jim. There's dead Jack is here
as well. Hi. Every single Wednesday around this time we
invite our good friends Scott Maxwell to join us from
the Orlando Sentinel. He writes columns there Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.
He is the truth Dragon, good loud for mister Sweetheats.
Got Max, Well, big dog, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's good to see it.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It was actually, I think it was more fun coming
to see in person last week.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That was nice. It was great, dude. I can't believe
it was a week ago.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It was.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It was nice to see all your station folks just
putting in their own time.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely wonderful. Actually had about a half an
hour long conversation with my wife about that very thing.
How cool it is that we have employees that really
do go way beyond uh to help out the community.
I love seen. It was great.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, yeah, and it was. It may may put a
little extra holiday pep at my steps.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So I love that. Hey, let me ask you a
question real quick. This is on our This is you
know a lot of people texting and responding to this
We actually got a I mean a ton of responses
to this. Can you name a movie that you watch
that you can't watch again? And maybe it doesn't have
to do with like maybe how gross the movie is
or anything like that, just maybe the subject matter and
just give you an idea. One of mine is like
(01:26):
Schindler's List or a movie called like Leaving Las Vegas
was a tough one to watch. I haven't watched that again.
Do you have a movie like that in your repertoire?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Those are both solid ones. I Leaving Las Vegas was,
that's Those are both good ones. I watched it, it
was great. Never want to need to.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
See it again, Fred, exactly, I've seen it tough to
watch the first time and would never subject myself to
it again.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
One another similar. I don't know if you remember Hotel Rwanda.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, cheatah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And it was spectacular.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Now there's an argument to be made that, you know,
we have the luxury of just choosing in our lives
not to watch these things that other people have had
to deal with their entire life, and we shouldn't just you.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Know, be comfortable by choosing us to do it. But yes,
all those movies.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, And the funny thing is that, you know, we
said earlier because another one of mine is The Exorcist,
But we said earlier that if you look at the choices,
even the ones online, a lot of them are because
the stories are accurate, They're based on actual happenings, especially
with you know, your Schindler's List, any of your war
movies that deal with World War one or two for
that matter, those people actually live through that, you know,
apocalypse now with Vietnam, people live through that. So yeah,
(02:37):
I just found it interesting. I saw I have thing
on Reddit today that kind of peaked my interest in
what people would say with that.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And on the flip side, I am physically incapable on
any Saturday afternoon of scanning the channels and coming across
oceans eleven, twelve or thirteen and not stopping.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And watching the movie that I've seen about two hundred.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Really, yeah, I've got those two. I think Dumb and
Dumber is one of mine. I think I almost stop
at my tracks and watch anything Dumb and Dumber, all right?
Four seven nine one six one four one. Talking to
Scott Maxwell from The Orlando Sentinel, I saw your piece
today and it comes on the heels of another piece
I read today about this very topic, and the topic
is is how much money the Santas has taken from
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the state of Florida that wasn't really deemed for what
he used it for. And there was an instagram a
feed that I found today from an author who writes
on these things, and you know, the initial number was
ten million dollars. We've heard about the ten million bucks
right from a settlement. It was redirected into Hope, Florida,
the organization that its whole goal is to get people
(03:46):
off of welfare and make churches take over those responsibilities,
or at least some of that is part of that.
But now I heard the number is way different and
it's considerably worse. And I saw it in your column
today and it really it reverified what it was. So
now it's between thirty five and thirty seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, that's that's about right.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That was taken without you know, with taken without any
judicial oversight or any any protocol whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, this was money that was meant to be like
from spread from a bunch of different state divisions, from Education, DCF,
Department of Health.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Money that was meant to protect at risk foster kids.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Money that was meant to help people who are addicted
to opioids, and all of it was spent on the
campaigns against decriminalizing marijuana and protecting abortion rights. And I
think one of the things that I wrote about today
to try to help people understand how wrong that is
is this state has debates.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Over amendments every year.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The you know, almost every other minimum wage is a
good one, a good example.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's that's the debate that we had.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The way that happened is two different sets of groups
funded those campaigns. On one side, you had like labor unions,
you had John more organ he was funding it. They
were fund and citizens that were saying, you know, we
want to raise the minimum wage.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
On the other side, you had the Chamber of Commerce.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You had the Hotel Lodging Association, and they were saying
we should not raise minimum wage.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's how it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
That's how you debate things in the court of a
public opinion, with people doing their own money.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
DeSantis decided he wanted to run his campaigns against the amendment,
against the.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Abortion and marijuana amendments with public money, and that's not okay,
And I mean one person after another said it was
wrong and probably illegal.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And a bit nefarious in the way that it was labeled,
right because I mean some of the money. I mean,
that's the thing that made it a little shaky, is how.
You know, we hear this government a lot for people
who don't understand, and there probably aren't that many out there.
You know, when a president designates something a certain thing,
they're doing that because it unlocks the ability for you
to use a certain set of tools. The governments offered
(05:56):
to to have that problem, whether it designating somebody a
cartel or a a terrorist organization or a weapon of
mass destruction, those are for a reason. And in Florida
that he deemed this like add money and some other
stuff that really doesn't add up. I mean they you know,
there's receipts out there that show that it really isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That, and they're still hiding it there.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean, these these papers have worked really hard to
seeking Rent's website, and Tampa Bay Times really went hard.
But there's still a lot of these things that are
being hidden.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And one of the things that I thought they did
a good.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Job that I hadn't really clicked because I was thinking, like,
you know, why didn't the Saynis just get his own
private money. Usually could snap his fingers and get any
company to And they were making the point that at
this point in time, back in two thousand and two,
this is when he was fighting with Donald Trump, right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is this is when he was at his lowest.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Point, and there weren't a whole lot of people tripping
over themselves to give him money. They thought he was
you know, he wasn't gonna be president. There was no
real future for him. So it looks like he just
decided to dip his hands into the public coffers and
use the money because they couldn't raise it on his own.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's not okay as a lane duck. I mean,
he really doesn't have any power. You and I have
kind of talked a number of times about what his
next thing's gonna be because he's kind of ruined himself
with the Magna crowd. I don't think he's gonna get
any significant Republican vote support. His donors bailed, and of
course the job that Trump and Susie Wiles did on him,
you know, they it worked. I mean, they basically defang
(07:21):
this guy and he's only working in the context of Florida.
And then now we see this, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Speaking of a sort of semi related Jim, I'm gonna
throw this out there.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You probably saw the whole Susie Wiles Vanity.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Fair unbelievable, just can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Let me just submit that Susie Wiles, from what I
know about, Susie Wiles, does not do things accidentally, and
Susie Wiles does not not know what she's doing. And
Susie Wiles didn't sit down with Vanity Fair for what
was it, eleven different interviews and not know exactly how
that was going to play out.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, let me let me tell you the very interesting
part about the Susie Wiles thing. For me, and if
you don't know, Susie Wiles is his chief of staff,
has been his right hand man. Yeah, Jesus staff has
been really an operative in the Republican Party for many,
many years. She's the daughter of the former Pat Semarole,
the great sports announcer. The thing that I found interesting
is this the rumor mill says there are a number
of cabinet members that are on their way out. She
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took shots at Rubio she took shots at Advance, she
took shots at Bondi, she didn't take shots at Christy Nome,
she didn't take shots at cash. Oh. I had noticed
that she didn't take shots at Bongino. All of those
guys are rumored to be exiting the White House. Bongino,
there's a rumor today that he's packing his office as
we speak and just waiting for the right time to bail.
(08:36):
So it's kind of interesting that she didn't bring certain
people up, as if they weren't worth bringing up.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, And I mean, now we're just I'm just speculating,
but I think everything she does.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Is by calculating, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And in what this reminded me of is a story
that I know Dev remembers because it was a long time.
Do you remember when she and Dissanta's first that's had
their following falling out. There was a list of a
price list that got leaked, Uh, basically what you had
to do to pay what you had to pay to hang.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Out with the saydus. It was pretty gross.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean it was it was like one hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars to play golf with him or
you know, or fifty thousand dollars to die.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It was basically like a hooker list.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Uh And and generally the sort of scuttle button around
Tallahassee was that there were only a handful of people
who had this list, and Susie Wilds was probably one
of it, one of them. That list got uh leaked out,
and then Susie Wiles, you know, decried it and said
it's all a bunch of fake news and that the
all the reporter and anyway, this had a lot of
(09:39):
ring of similarity to what we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, when thiss Hants threw his hat into the presidential ring,
that ruined him. That was it. That's all it had.
I mean, when he tried to run they against Trump
or run for that nomination, he was done. He thought
that Trump was in a weak position, that Republican Party
would not seem as damage goods, and he didn't have
the baggage that Trump has. He thought was going to
slide right in there. And they do not care for him.
(10:02):
They don't like him, they don't like the way he operates. Right.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And by the way, I just because while you were talking,
I pulled up the priceless I want in case you
want to do some Christmas shopping, the dissantus priceless.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's twenty it was twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
If you want to be part of a foursome, what
one hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
If you want to go one on one with the governor.
So I'm looking for those are some good hooker prices.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, that's a that's an expensive scramble hunter k for
a scramble? Yeah? Yeah? Well what else is going on
out there? Buddy? Way? How else are you getting yourself
in the Christmas spirit? Have you all your shopping done? Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, most of it's pretty good. We're we got fame,
we got all of our family is come.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We got fourteen maxwells, which is at least like twelve
maxwells too many coming down to We're spending it in Sarasota,
where my where my daughter is.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
We're going to be down there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh that's cool. Is my mom? Is that you? Is
that you? Is that where your parents are? Or your
mom is? I mean North? Aren't there?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
My daughter works there, she works for the Sarasota Opera.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And we just were looking for a place to all
gather and Sarasota's pretty nice. So we've got about five
condos and we're gonna spend Christmas there and see shows
and eat dinners and go to the beach.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That sounds great, man, Yeah yeah, what about you just
excuse me here at home, just everybody's coming over. Actually
just found out this morning that everybody's coming over around
nine o'clock in the morning. Oh oh wow, okay, yeah yea.
So we do breakfast. So what happens is our crew
comes over, everybody brings a dish. My mother in law
brings keish and that's in a pumpkin roll. She does
(11:35):
it only once a year. So we have this traditional
breakfast that we have and then we go into the
living room and open gifts. All my kids are old,
so this is not like a tear things apart and
everything's on by six fifteen. This is not that anymore.
Eybody kind of moses in. We take it easy, make
a day out of it, get a good cup of coffee,
just of you know, just kind of slide into it.
I've done zero shopping, zero shopping. I got to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't know if you're aware. A week from tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, yea, yah, yeah, yeah, this is exactly what
happens to me every single year. I'm like, I gotta
get this done early, and the next thing he knows
the twentieth Well, good luck. I guess here's how I
do it, scott Like like, I make the list out
and then, like a true man, I drive from the
places to the places. I walk straight into the store.
(12:21):
There is no browsing. I walk straight to the thing
I'm getting, I buy it. I walk straight out of
the store. There is no meandering about the store. I'm
not looking for a deal. I make my list, I
go and get it, and I come home. I'm pretty efficient.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, don't you just order stuff online?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's my life? Does that? We had a tower of
boxes in the front of the front door until about
the Sunday when we put them away. But there are
certain rooms of the house I can't even go in
because there's stuff stashing there I can't see.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
We've just my whole family.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I think we've just reached that we are so practical
that nobody's getting sentimental gifts anymore. It's just sort of
like I need an alarm clock and maybe some a
new pack ofp Rello pads and everybody's just given things
what they need.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
My wife actually made it very easy on me this year.
I know exactly what she wants. And the cool thing
is is she's given me so many ideas. She has
no idea which ones I'm getting, and I'm getting those
this week and she's going to trip out. She's gonna
love it. Yeah, and the kids I don't have to
worry about because she shot up for all those. I
just have to really worry about my wife. And the
guys here on the program.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So you don't have much to do, and yet your
way behind.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, I'm way behind. Thanks good. I appreciate you saying
that I invited you here for the record. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, I just want to tell you guys before we
get to the end event.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I hope you have a merry Christmas. And it's been
a very good year.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It has been a great year, buddy, and I appreciate
it all the time you spend with us and give
a call and appreciate what you do for the city
of Orlando. I know everybody out there listening does as well.
They know that you are the gatekeeper of truth here
in Orlando. The Orlando Sentinel and we would always urge
people to start a new year by getting a subscription
to the Sentinel so that you can read Scott's columns
throughout the year and stay up the rest of what's happening,
(14:01):
especially going into twenty twenty six. It's gonna be a
fiery year, by man.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It is.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And then I'm getting ready to do Jack's favorite column,
the New Year's Disclosure.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh yeah, in case you forgot what's going on behind
the scenes in the world of Scott matxwell, this is
the article, Lauree. You find out. This is what I've
never understood. This about you. By the way, I've never
understood why you share all your financial information right everybody?
That is a nightmare to me. Oh, we never know
million years do that.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I like that I can write this thing and explain
to people where I stand on, like the death penalty
and abortion and religion.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And the only thing people remember is you said you
like miracle.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Will all right, Bud, he always a good scene. You
good laugh for Scott Maxwell Bay twenty twenty five, and
we'll see you next year with your smiling face. Buddy,
have a good time and travel safely. You got a buddy,
right Christmas, Happy New Year? All right for our seven
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of the Jim Coward Show.
Welcome back to the Jim Colbert Show, Real Radio one
four point one. I'm Jim. There's dead Jack is here
as well. Hi. Every single Wednesday around this time we
invite our good friends Scott Maxwell to join us from
the Orlando Sentinel. He writes columns there Wednesdays, Thursdays and Sundays.
He is the truth Dragon, good loud for mister Sweetheats.
Got Max, Well, big dog, what's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
It's good to see it.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
It was actually, I think it was more fun coming
to see in person last week.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
That was nice. It was great, dude. I can't believe
it was a week ago.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
It was.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
It was nice to see all your station folks just
putting in their own time.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh yeah, absolutely wonderful. Actually had about a half an
hour long conversation with my wife about that very thing.
How cool it is that we have employees that really
do go way beyond uh to help out the community.
I love seen. It was great.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, yeah, and it was. It may may put a
little extra holiday pep at my steps.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
So I love that. Hey, let me ask you a
question real quick. This is on our This is you
know a lot of people texting and responding to this
We actually got a I mean a ton of responses
to this. Can you name a movie that you watch
that you can't watch again? And maybe it doesn't have
to do with like maybe how gross the movie is
or anything like that, just maybe the subject matter and
just give you an idea. One of mine is like
(01:26):
Schindler's List or a movie called like Leaving Las Vegas
was a tough one to watch. I haven't watched that again.
Do you have a movie like that in your repertoire?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Those are both solid ones. I Leaving Las Vegas was,
that's Those are both good ones. I watched it, it
was great. Never want to need to.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
See it again, Fred, exactly, I've seen it tough to
watch the first time and would never subject myself to
it again.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
One another similar. I don't know if you remember Hotel Rwanda.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, cheatah.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And it was spectacular.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Now there's an argument to be made that, you know,
we have the luxury of just choosing in our lives
not to watch these things that other people have had
to deal with their entire life, and we shouldn't just you.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Know, be comfortable by choosing us to do it. But yes,
all those movies.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, And the funny thing is that, you know, we
said earlier because another one of mine is The Exorcist,
But we said earlier that if you look at the choices,
even the ones online, a lot of them are because
the stories are accurate, They're based on actual happenings, especially
with you know, your Schindler's List, any of your war
movies that deal with World War one or two for
that matter, those people actually live through that, you know,
apocalypse now with Vietnam, people live through that. So yeah,
(02:37):
I just found it interesting. I saw I have thing
on Reddit today that kind of peaked my interest in
what people would say with that.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
And on the flip side, I am physically incapable on
any Saturday afternoon of scanning the channels and coming across
oceans eleven, twelve or thirteen and not stopping.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And watching the movie that I've seen about two hundred.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Really, yeah, I've got those two. I think Dumb and
Dumber is one of mine. I think I almost stop
at my tracks and watch anything Dumb and Dumber, all right?
Four seven nine one six one four one. Talking to
Scott Maxwell from The Orlando Sentinel, I saw your piece
today and it comes on the heels of another piece
I read today about this very topic, and the topic
is is how much money the Santas has taken from
(03:22):
the state of Florida that wasn't really deemed for what
he used it for. And there was an instagram a
feed that I found today from an author who writes
on these things, and you know, the initial number was
ten million dollars. We've heard about the ten million bucks
right from a settlement. It was redirected into Hope, Florida,
the organization that its whole goal is to get people
(03:46):
off of welfare and make churches take over those responsibilities,
or at least some of that is part of that.
But now I heard the number is way different and
it's considerably worse. And I saw it in your column
today and it really it reverified what it was. So
now it's between thirty five and thirty seven million dollars.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, that's that's about right.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That was taken without you know, with taken without any
judicial oversight or any any protocol whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, this was money that was meant to be like
from spread from a bunch of different state divisions, from Education, DCF,
Department of Health.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Money that was meant to protect at risk foster kids.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Money that was meant to help people who are addicted
to opioids, and all of it was spent on the
campaigns against decriminalizing marijuana and protecting abortion rights. And I
think one of the things that I wrote about today
to try to help people understand how wrong that is
is this state has debates.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Over amendments every year.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The you know, almost every other minimum wage is a
good one, a good example.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
That's that's the debate that we had.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
The way that happened is two different sets of groups
funded those campaigns. On one side, you had like labor unions,
you had John more organ he was funding it. They
were fund and citizens that were saying, you know, we
want to raise the minimum wage.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
On the other side, you had the Chamber of Commerce.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
You had the Hotel Lodging Association, and they were saying
we should not raise minimum wage.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
That's how it's supposed to happen.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
That's how you debate things in the court of a
public opinion, with people doing their own money.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
DeSantis decided he wanted to run his campaigns against the amendment,
against the.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Abortion and marijuana amendments with public money, and that's not okay,
And I mean one person after another said it was
wrong and probably illegal.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And a bit nefarious in the way that it was labeled,
right because I mean some of the money. I mean,
that's the thing that made it a little shaky, is how.
You know, we hear this government a lot for people
who don't understand, and there probably aren't that many out there.
You know, when a president designates something a certain thing,
they're doing that because it unlocks the ability for you
to use a certain set of tools. The governments offered
(05:56):
to to have that problem, whether it designating somebody a
cartel or a a terrorist organization or a weapon of
mass destruction, those are for a reason. And in Florida
that he deemed this like add money and some other
stuff that really doesn't add up. I mean they you know,
there's receipts out there that show that it really isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
That, and they're still hiding it there.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean, these these papers have worked really hard to
seeking Rent's website, and Tampa Bay Times really went hard.
But there's still a lot of these things that are
being hidden.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
And one of the things that I thought they did
a good.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Job that I hadn't really clicked because I was thinking, like,
you know, why didn't the Saynis just get his own
private money. Usually could snap his fingers and get any
company to And they were making the point that at
this point in time, back in two thousand and two,
this is when he was fighting with Donald Trump, right.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
This is this is when he was at his lowest.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Point, and there weren't a whole lot of people tripping
over themselves to give him money. They thought he was
you know, he wasn't gonna be president. There was no
real future for him. So it looks like he just
decided to dip his hands into the public coffers and
use the money because they couldn't raise it on his own.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
And that's not okay as a lane duck. I mean,
he really doesn't have any power. You and I have
kind of talked a number of times about what his
next thing's gonna be because he's kind of ruined himself
with the Magna crowd. I don't think he's gonna get
any significant Republican vote support. His donors bailed, and of
course the job that Trump and Susie Wiles did on him,
you know, they it worked. I mean, they basically defang
(07:21):
this guy and he's only working in the context of Florida.
And then now we see this, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Speaking of a sort of semi related Jim, I'm gonna
throw this out there.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You probably saw the whole Susie Wiles Vanity.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Fair unbelievable, just can't believe it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
Let me just submit that Susie Wiles, from what I
know about, Susie Wiles, does not do things accidentally, and
Susie Wiles does not not know what she's doing. And
Susie Wiles didn't sit down with Vanity Fair for what
was it, eleven different interviews and not know exactly how
that was going to play out.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, let me let me tell you the very interesting
part about the Susie Wiles thing. For me, and if
you don't know, Susie Wiles is his chief of staff,
has been his right hand man. Yeah, Jesus staff has
been really an operative in the Republican Party for many,
many years. She's the daughter of the former Pat Semarole,
the great sports announcer. The thing that I found interesting
is this the rumor mill says there are a number
of cabinet members that are on their way out. She
(08:14):
took shots at Rubio she took shots at Advance, she
took shots at Bondi, she didn't take shots at Christy Nome,
she didn't take shots at cash. Oh. I had noticed
that she didn't take shots at Bongino. All of those
guys are rumored to be exiting the White House. Bongino,
there's a rumor today that he's packing his office as
we speak and just waiting for the right time to bail.
(08:36):
So it's kind of interesting that she didn't bring certain
people up, as if they weren't worth bringing up.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, And I mean, now we're just I'm just speculating,
but I think everything she does.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Is by calculating, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
And in what this reminded me of is a story
that I know Dev remembers because it was a long time.
Do you remember when she and Dissanta's first that's had
their following falling out. There was a list of a
price list that got leaked, Uh, basically what you had
to do to pay what you had to pay to hang.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Out with the saydus. It was pretty gross.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I mean it was it was like one hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars to play golf with him or
you know, or fifty thousand dollars to die.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
It was basically like a hooker list.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
You know.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
Uh And and generally the sort of scuttle button around
Tallahassee was that there were only a handful of people
who had this list, and Susie Wilds was probably one
of it, one of them. That list got uh leaked out,
and then Susie Wiles, you know, decried it and said
it's all a bunch of fake news and that the
all the reporter and anyway, this had a lot of
(09:39):
ring of similarity to what we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, when thiss Hants threw his hat into the presidential ring,
that ruined him. That was it. That's all it had.
I mean, when he tried to run they against Trump
or run for that nomination, he was done. He thought
that Trump was in a weak position, that Republican Party
would not seem as damage goods, and he didn't have
the baggage that Trump has. He thought was going to
slide right in there. And they do not care for him.
(10:02):
They don't like him, they don't like the way he operates. Right.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And by the way, I just because while you were talking,
I pulled up the priceless I want in case you
want to do some Christmas shopping, the dissantus priceless.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
It's twenty it was twenty five thousand dollars.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
If you want to be part of a foursome, what
one hundred thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
If you want to go one on one with the governor.
So I'm looking for those are some good hooker prices.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah, that's a that's an expensive scramble hunter k for
a scramble? Yeah? Yeah? Well what else is going on
out there? Buddy? Way? How else are you getting yourself
in the Christmas spirit? Have you all your shopping done? Uh?
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yeah, most of it's pretty good. We're we got fame,
we got all of our family is come.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
We got fourteen maxwells, which is at least like twelve
maxwells too many coming down to We're spending it in Sarasota,
where my where my daughter is.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
We're going to be down there.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh that's cool. Is my mom? Is that you? Is
that you? Is that where your parents are? Or your
mom is? I mean North? Aren't there?
Speaker 2 (10:57):
My daughter works there, she works for the Sarasota Opera.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
And we just were looking for a place to all
gather and Sarasota's pretty nice. So we've got about five
condos and we're gonna spend Christmas there and see shows
and eat dinners and go to the beach.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That sounds great, man, Yeah yeah, what about you just
excuse me here at home, just everybody's coming over. Actually
just found out this morning that everybody's coming over around
nine o'clock in the morning. Oh oh wow, okay, yeah yea.
So we do breakfast. So what happens is our crew
comes over, everybody brings a dish. My mother in law
brings keish and that's in a pumpkin roll. She does
(11:35):
it only once a year. So we have this traditional
breakfast that we have and then we go into the
living room and open gifts. All my kids are old,
so this is not like a tear things apart and
everything's on by six fifteen. This is not that anymore.
Eybody kind of moses in. We take it easy, make
a day out of it, get a good cup of coffee,
just of you know, just kind of slide into it.
I've done zero shopping, zero shopping. I got to do it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I don't know if you're aware. A week from tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, yeah, yea, yah, yeah, yeah, this is exactly what
happens to me every single year. I'm like, I gotta
get this done early, and the next thing he knows
the twentieth Well, good luck. I guess here's how I
do it, scott Like like, I make the list out
and then, like a true man, I drive from the
places to the places. I walk straight into the store.
(12:21):
There is no browsing. I walk straight to the thing
I'm getting, I buy it. I walk straight out of
the store. There is no meandering about the store. I'm
not looking for a deal. I make my list, I
go and get it, and I come home. I'm pretty efficient.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, don't you just order stuff online?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
That's my life? Does that? We had a tower of
boxes in the front of the front door until about
the Sunday when we put them away. But there are
certain rooms of the house I can't even go in
because there's stuff stashing there I can't see.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
We've just my whole family.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I think we've just reached that we are so practical
that nobody's getting sentimental gifts anymore. It's just sort of
like I need an alarm clock and maybe some a
new pack ofp Rello pads and everybody's just given things
what they need.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
My wife actually made it very easy on me this year.
I know exactly what she wants. And the cool thing
is is she's given me so many ideas. She has
no idea which ones I'm getting, and I'm getting those
this week and she's going to trip out. She's gonna
love it. Yeah, and the kids I don't have to
worry about because she shot up for all those. I
just have to really worry about my wife. And the
guys here on the program.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
So you don't have much to do, and yet your
way behind.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Yeah, I'm way behind. Thanks good. I appreciate you saying
that I invited you here for the record. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:34):
Well, I just want to tell you guys before we
get to the end event.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I hope you have a merry Christmas. And it's been
a very good year.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
It has been a great year, buddy, and I appreciate
it all the time you spend with us and give
a call and appreciate what you do for the city
of Orlando. I know everybody out there listening does as well.
They know that you are the gatekeeper of truth here
in Orlando. The Orlando Sentinel and we would always urge
people to start a new year by getting a subscription
to the Sentinel so that you can read Scott's columns
throughout the year and stay up the rest of what's happening,
(14:01):
especially going into twenty twenty six. It's gonna be a
fiery year, by man.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
It is.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
And then I'm getting ready to do Jack's favorite column,
the New Year's Disclosure.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh yeah, in case you forgot what's going on behind
the scenes in the world of Scott matxwell, this is
the article, Lauree. You find out. This is what I've
never understood. This about you. By the way, I've never
understood why you share all your financial information right everybody?
That is a nightmare to me. Oh, we never know
million years do that.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I like that I can write this thing and explain
to people where I stand on, like the death penalty
and abortion and religion.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
And the only thing people remember is you said you
like miracle.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Will all right, Bud, he always a good scene. You
good laugh for Scott Maxwell Bay twenty twenty five, and
we'll see you next year with your smiling face. Buddy,
have a good time and travel safely. You got a buddy,
right Christmas, Happy New Year? All right for our seven
nine one six four one text Does that seven to
seven zero three one back in a second with more
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