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October 21, 2025 • 11 mins
We review Jim's choice for Whatd'ya Do That's New, which was the second studio album by Public Enemy 'It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back,' which was released in 1988. Next week, we will talk about Deborah's choice, which is a short video on YouTube about 'Ed Gein: The Real-life Leatherface.'

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
What's up, Jackie.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'll talk a lot of crap to y'all on the
text messaging between you and the monsters in the morning.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
I love in North Carolina, but I'm coming down this weekend.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
I'm flying down Friday night. I will be on the.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Brow bus and we are going to have discussions about
our different views.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Oh boy, I love you even though we don't agree.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
On anything, and we're gonna hang out and have a
great time together.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Bye, buddy, love you been listening for thirty five.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Years, Mike, whether you like it or not, Jackie, Wow,
I love that.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Let's see, we have two buses, so there's a fifty
to fifty shot.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll be sitting next to this cat. Is
this a political thing, Jack that?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I would tell that guy to gird himself quite well,
because Jack is no joke when it comes to this stuff.
He knows this stuff. So don't come in here. What's
talking points from Fox or Newsmax. Dude, you will get
literally wasted by Bradshaw if you try that. I mean
wasted I am, so don't try that. Don't emberage. I'm
giving you a preheads up. Don't embarrass yourself and try
to get into a political conversation with mister Bradshaw. That'd

(01:09):
be a bad move on your part, just tiny not
keep it as fun as you possibly can.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
There you go, well, thank you, but this is about
having fun where I'm sure it's going to be a lovely,
polite conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
I will any listener who's.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Going to travel all the way down here to go
on one of our events is to me. It tells
me they have great taste.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
I love that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:39):
Satterly, never heard one person that went on a Monster's
Brew bus say they had a bad time.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's always a good time.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
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at these bars, so it's not even just the people
on the bus. There's a caravan of people who show
up at those bars who live in those areas, so
the party's even bigger than what the buses bringing.

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Speaker 2 (02:17):
We hope you win. Faux show. I'm Jim, there's Deb
Jack is here.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yep. Let's do what you do? That's new?

Speaker 3 (02:28):
To do that? What did you do that?

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
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Speaker 1 (02:48):
Uh, what'd you do?

Speaker 2 (02:49):
That's new every Tuesday since we started the show in
twenty eighteen. That's where one member of the show will
choose something for the other members to watch, read, or
listen to. We'll reconvene, we'll do that, and we'll move
on to the next choice. Deb is coming up here
in just a few minutes. I made a choice for you, guys,
because this is one of the This was a game
changing album for me. And I'm in this mode right

(03:10):
now listening to eighties hip hop, the hip hop that
really started me into my craze.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
For hip hop. Yeah, and I wanted it interesting and I.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Wanted to share this with you guys. The first one
was paid in full by Eric being rock Yim that's
what we did last week. This week we moved into
Public Enemy. It takes a nation of millions to hold
us back. I like and this probably has the second
most popular Public Enemy song out there. I think Fight
the Power is probably the song that most people realize
is the public Getemy song. But Bring the Noise is

(03:39):
the song that was co opted with Anthrax, the thrash
metal band, and that video really broke a lot of
ground no differently than Aerosmith and the Run DMC collab.
So this was a really important record not only for
the hip hop genre, but also it kind of bridged
over into the rock genre as well.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I actually like this better than the Eric B and
rock him, did you really?

Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, Well, I appreciate that. I'm more familiar with Public Enemy,
you know, I mean the last rejoin we had a
segment ago we you know, in Public Enemy, But.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
This was fun. Their beats, it's just it's solid.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Every cut it's I was listening yesterday in the Manchester
airport with my hair pods on. He's hanging out, you know,
just watching airport life unfold in front of me as
I was just like, listen. I love to see Bradshaw
sitting it there, banging it out in the Rebel without
a pause, or black Steel in his black still in

(04:41):
the Hour of Chaos.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I got the letter from the government the other day.
I mean, and just like with the last one with
Eric b.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
As well as you hear, I personally hear so many
things that later get sampled in in other songs. And
there's something about Chuck D's voice that the greatest one
of our greatest in my humble opinion, Yeah, it's the
greatest hip hop rapper MC voice of all time.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
It commands so much respect.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, they talk about like the voice of God, right,
It's just it's it's so powerful.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, just an incredible album. What'd you think, Debri?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
You know you're a hip hop fan already, but you
like like you like new hip but you like Migos
and stuff like that, which I love as well. But
this is really thrown it back. And by the way, guys,
this is music of rebellion. Oh no, I understand this
is this is literally this would be modern day like
Bob Marley.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
This isn't be a veteran. I'm a black man, right, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Mean this at my heroes don't appear of no stamps.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
So yeah, So first of all, you realize, oh, that's
where that sample came from. Oh that's where that sample
came from. Did anyone else think during the profits of Rage,
is that Obama? Yeah? The guy who says, oh, okay,
can we all get along? And I'm like, right, that
sounds like, no, this is nineteen eighty eight. That wouldn't
have been Barack Obama. But yeah, you see, it is

(06:00):
one of the seminal albums of the hip hop genre.
I mean, and it's still going strong that there's still
being sample And it's cute to see Flavor flav with
a wooden clock back in the day before it came
forward the gold clocks. You know.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
I love the fact that you know, Flavor was using
the vernacular of the day, like the street language of
that day. And now when you listen to it, it
seems so corny because the street langage of the day
is just so much more agro than it was back then.
But you know, all they're cute, Yeah, but those guys
back in the that was like that's how they you know,
that's how that language was back then. And uh, I
just I'm so excited to what I remember what I

(06:34):
thought to myself, I'm gonna make these guys listen to
take some a nation.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
And I kind of laughed at myself, but it wasn't
because of you. I knew.

Speaker 2 (06:40):
I knew that you would got to take it in.
It's just how I thought Jack would approach it. But
I'm glad you guys both enjoyed it. It is one
of my favorite records of all time, and I do
think it's one of, if not the most important hip
hop album album, along with Fear of a Black Planet
that's ever been recorded. And I will tell any hip
hop fan out there that listens to a lot of
the mumble or bass rap, or you think these new

(07:01):
guys really saying things, they're not, you go listen to
the Public Enemy collection and you'll hear actual people who
actually had street knowledge and actually knew these things and
and really them in dell themselves into what was causing
the strife between blacks and whites back in the sixties
and fifties, going into that and then really attacking it

(07:23):
with their language and there and what they knew.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
From the street. It's just it's a masterpiece of my opinion.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
Well, it was bigger than the street beef.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Oh yeah, yeah, way bigger than that, you know.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
So a lot of times. Yeah, when you try to
compare the message of today with the message of a
Public Enemy, it's that couldn't be more different.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah. Man, Well, I'm glad you guys enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
We did, and I'll probably have another trip down hip
hop lane for you guys to.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Come in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
But if if you're out there and you haven't heard
or listened to it takes a nation of millions to
hold us back. By the band Public Enemy, I strongly
recommend that and Fear of a Black Planet. These are
game changing albums. This will make you look at life
a lot differently.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
I don't remember where I heard him say it.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
It was from Springsteen.

Speaker 3 (08:04):
It might have been on his podcast that he did
with President Obama, but they were talking about protest songs
and when it's Springsteen. He said one of his the
best protest songs is Public Enemy, Fight the Power.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah, and again, if you listen to it night a
Living Bays Heads, it's a band talking about what crack
is doing to the black community, and it's it's hitting
black people for what they're doing to their own community.
Black stee only Hour of Chaos is the government asking
them to join the army and their response considering how
the America has treated blacks in America for so many years.

(08:36):
Just it's brilliant stuff. And I mean there are five
or six just straight up revolution songs on this album
I think are very important to American culture and history.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
So there you go. That's my choice. That's how excited
I am about that. Yeah, just a little what do
you got for us next week?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Okay, what we're gonna do since it is the Halloween
season and it is a very popular show on Netflix,
but we're not going to watch that. I was Jimmy
very very tempted to assign BTK my Father the Killer
the Netflix documentary, but at an hour and thirty four minutes, again, Jack,
I just didn't want to do that to you. Oh
thank you that, So instead I'm going to give you

(09:11):
nineteen minutes and fourteen seconds about ed Gean, the real
life leather Face.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah yeah, okay, is that Netflix or is that that
the YouTube?

Speaker 4 (09:20):
That's just YouTube and I'll send you the link right away.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Fantastic.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
It's just a way to get the history behind the
way that Hollywood I guess is glaming it up.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
The dramatization of this story of the Ed Gaen thing
is just it's really it's kind of stupid. It's like
they've tried to turn it into a fifties Hallmark movie
and it wasn't anything like that.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
It was not.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
And did you see it as well, the dramatization on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
I didn't because, like Jimmy, I don't like the.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Did he turn you off to it? How he spoke
about so many ways?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I heard other people like it, and I just learned
it was directed by Henry Winkler.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeahn oh wow, oh wow.

Speaker 4 (09:59):
I mean it's one thing I may still check out,
but I don't know how long that series is. And really,
quite honestly, this is a cat that you only really
want to give nineteen minutes in fourteen seconds, okay. I
mean the guy even warns you in the video.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, yeah, he was one of the worst people.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
And when he goes through because we know who he inspired,
but when he goes through the history of the books
and the movies and and really gives you a background
about his family and how absolutely twisted his mother's.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Mother was really the cause of all this.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
She really was. She created this monster.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
She did so in a lot of those serial killers,
that is the catalyst of that. They have a very
overbearing mother and that leads into some really serious emotional
issues for young boys.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
For Gaysey, it would have been his father.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
I mean he named him John Wayne, and Gasey couldn't
have been anything further than a John Wayne all right.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
For our seven nine one six four one text us
seven seven zero three one. By the way, if you
want to see all of the collection of our what
you Do That's News, it's actually a really unique mix
of interesting stuff that you can and watch going all
the way back to twenty eighteen. So if you ever
get pinched and you ever get bored of something to watch,
just go to the gym Coulpert Live dot com and
look at that master list for What'd You Do That's New?

(11:09):
You can actually go back all those years and find
the stuff that we've offered up. And there's some really
interesting stuff from anime all the way up to this
public Enemy record to what Dev just suggested. So go
check that out for sure. All Right, let's take a
little break. We'll come back and talk about another Netflix
special that's close to home.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
We'll do that next.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
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