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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now. Welcome in name free for all Friday Underway. Folks.
Appreciate you being here with us today and man oh
Man lots to get to lots of eat on the
Bone today. Great conversations as always, the stories you won't
hear anywhere else, they're good for coles and joining us
to talk a little bit about them today in feng

(00:45):
some of these stories that are starting to get really
interesting with Benson and netsel Oh and even Whitmer. Oh
my all in the news lately and by the way,
I did Kyle Joyns just now welcome to the program.
We appreciate you being here with us today, Kyle, thanks
for having me. Things are heating up for twenty twenty

(01:07):
six and the boy they have massive consequences what we've
seen sort of behind the scenes here playing out and
I thought, you know, some of this we should probably
really take some time to touch on. We saw polls
this week came out Gooblatoria. That's kind of laughable some
of this stuff there, the poles that come out and

(01:28):
the googblatorial race. That third candidate is a question at
doug In. At the same time we're seeing those stories discussed,
we're also seeing that, well this is this is kind
of sad, but Detroit ranked second to last for best
places to raise a family. That's that's probably not the
news you want when you're running for governor, is it.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, I wouldn't think so. And there's this real there's
this contrast I guess if you want to call it
that where Mike Dougan. You know, there's people in the
in the CEOs and the business community and all of that,
people who are you know, uh, sort of getting the
corporate welfare and they want, you know, the special deals

(02:12):
from government and everything. They love Mike Doggan because he
he has you know, done so many projects that you
know that involved tax giveaways and everything. But then when
you look at the record of well effectively his his administration,
and you look at some of the stats from the
City of Detroit, I mean you just mentioned one we

(02:34):
we published The Midwesterner published a story this week where
Detroit is the second worst city to raise a family.
And you would think that sort of thing would matter
to business people, especially you know, big businesses, because a
you know, key things that that are used to recruit

(02:56):
people to come into this into the state to work
for a company are quality schools, equality of life, safety,
quality roads, infrastructure, et cetera. And those things are unfortunately
seriously lacking in the in the city of Detroit. And

(03:17):
so there can be people talking about all the great
things that Mike Dougan has done and all of that,
but if you strip away sort of the giveaways and
you know, the special favors and all of that, there's
not a whole lot to show for it. And so,
you know, one of the concerns there's there's been the
Detroit Chamber Conference has been going on at macanaw this week,

(03:39):
and we didn't send anyone. And one of the reasons
we didn't send anyone was because, you know, we're not
just going to go along to get along and pretend
like everything is great. And if you're challenging people and
all of that, well, they don't really like that, so,
which is why we didn't go. But yeah, this, I

(04:00):
think Mike Dougget's got a record that he has to
answer for. But then in addition to that, he's got
he's got previous you know, support of Joe Biden of
Kamala Harris. He was a delegate to the DNC just
I mean less than a year ago. And so now
he's running as an independent, which I think is sort

(04:21):
of a clever ploy. But the guy's a Democrat and
he at some point he's going to have to answer
for that.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, And I think my quick question on on Dougan is,
I mean, aside from those issues, does anybody even on
this side of the state, west side of the state
even know who he is? Yeah, I would think that
that number of people is very low.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Yes, I agree, And I think that there are people
a lot of people on the west side of the
state who look at Detroit and say, I mean, there's
a lot of issues. Don't we don't want that to
become the state of Michigan. And so as he, as
the mayor of Detroit, is saying promote me, make me
the governor, Well, do people want you know, what's the

(05:06):
problems with Detroit to become statewide.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Problems, right, Yeah, and that's that's maybe that's part of
those deals that are being made up on the island. Uh,
maybe that's that's part of the problem. Maybe that's how
we end up in these situations. This race is shaping
up right now. You've got a handful of people in it.
We've we've we've got Benson, We've got gilcrest Over on

(05:30):
the Democrat side of things. On the Republican side of things,
we've got John James, who's uh, according to that poll,
leading the race. We got Eric Nesbitt, Senate Minority leader,
and then we've got Mike Cox from from our attorney general.
But something tells me that there's still yet plenty of
time here and maybe others that will soon jump in

(05:52):
either either way. I'm just not sure that we're set
that this this race is is completely set in stone.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, No, I don't think it is. And it's I mean,
it's May, it is, it is Next November is a
is a and next August for the primary. That is
a long way away, and there's a whole lot of
people are trying to live their lives and you know,
get into the next day they're not they're not thinking
about the you know, politics and everything. And but it's

(06:22):
interesting to see how this the race is shaping up
so far. You know, Mike Cox has been very critical
of John James and you know, is calling him a
job hopper for trying to go from Congress to you
know that sort of when you know President Trump needs
Republicans and he's you know, wanting to become governor. You've

(06:44):
got John James. There was a there was a story
on The Blaze this week where he's sort of lashing
out at them I G O P and you know,
previous candidates and stuff like that. So that's going on
at the same time. So there's it's it's seems like
it's sort of heating up, which it just seems very
early to be doing something, you know, to have that happening.

(07:05):
But I think you're right. I don't think that the
field is set. It's still very very early. You know,
signatures to get on the ballot are not due until
next April, so there is a lot of road to
be traveled between here and there.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Looking at some of the other stories, kyl Olsen here
with us the Midwestern or the Midwesterner, Dot news and
the stories that are picking up steam. We've been watching
over the last couple of weeks. Here House resolution holds
Jocelyn Benson in contempt after subpoenas stuff that was well
last week. I believe we had that story you guys,
have you brought that forward? And that's that's exactly what

(07:43):
happened now. I know you sat down with Speaker of
the House Matt Hall, who's done a fantastic job. I
think lots of folks are starting to sing his praises
and they're starting to see some pulling on that nature too.
That suggests that they're really happy with what Republicans are
doing in the House right now. And he talked about this.

(08:06):
You asked him specifically about what whether or not you
can depend on Attorney General Dana Nessel, who's on the
same team there as Jocelyn Benson, to hold her accountable
and can you really hold the Can you depend on
Joscelyn Benson to hold free and fair elections? That's another
great point. Here's some of that from the interview available

(08:27):
at the Midwestern or Down News.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
Her goal is to effectively oversee her own election for governor.
Right she's been in court multiple times, She's lost multiple
times when it came to signature, signature verification, a whole
host of things. There are now concerns that she's continuing
to give bad recommendations, bad guidance to local clerks. So

(08:51):
what are your concerns about her overseeing her own election.

Speaker 5 (08:55):
Yeah, well, and that goes to this, uh, you know,
she's response for finding herself. I mean, I understand why
she did her announcement in a government building because there
are no consequences for her. I think Jim Desanna pointed
out that if a Republican did that, she would have
thrown the book at him. It was a clear violation

(09:17):
of the law, and that's really something we all have
to contemplate. I really struggle with letting Dana Nessel oversee this.
I don't know if that will be better, but we're
talking about it with the chair of the Election Integrity Committee,
Rachelle Smidt. By the way, I've enjoyed watching the Democrats

(09:41):
have to call it the Election Integrity Committee because I
renamed it that. But we want to send the message right.
The goal of that committee is to restore election integrity
to the state so people can have confidence in their elections,
and I think Rochelle Smith's doing a great job, but
we're really contentting do you give this power to the

(10:01):
attorney general knowing that we have one that is not
uses her position to punish her political opponents, or is
there a way we could do it through the legislature
to hold Joscelyn Benson accountable And that's where you go
to the Oversight Committee and to the budget process. But yeah,

(10:23):
to answer your question, I think it's very concerning for everybody.
We saw the abuse of how Joscelyn Benson used her
position last year to force OURFK Junior to stay on
the ballot when he asked to be taken off the
ballot because she knew that that would take some votes
away from Trump, and we knew how close Michigan was

(10:45):
going to be. And truthfully, Trump won it by a
lot more than most people thought he would. But the
first time he won it, it was by ten thousand votes,
and you know, RFK Junior would have taken votes away
from Trump. But then when it came to Cornell West,
who would have taken votes away from Harris, no problem

(11:06):
kicking him off the ballot, right, And so we saw
a clear double standard there where she used her position
to help the Democrat candidate for president and hurt the
Republican candidate for president. Her standards just change based on
what helps the Democrats.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Now you're looking at.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
The ultimate election for her right, her own election to
become governor of Michigan. And I think that she has
a track record her whole time in office that we
have to be concerned that she's going to use the
position to try to get herself elected governor at any cost.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
That is disturbing, but unfortunately the case, and it is
something I noted in your conversation with Speak of the
House Matt Hall that came up. What else, Obviously there's
far more from that interview. Folks are going to be
able to see online.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
I did that interview. It's about forty five minutes. You
can find that on our Twitter page. And then we
released several about ten clips over the course of this
week where it was a wide ranging discussion. And you know,
one of the things that the Speaker pointed out is
that he's very accessible and I could ask him anything,
and he has press conferences. He had another one on

(12:23):
Mackinac Island on Wednesday where he asked me anything, and
which is a very stark contrast from Benson, Whitmer, et cetera.
And it was very interesting to talk to him about
Benson in that whole situation. We talked a lot about

(12:43):
corporate welfare. One of the questions I asked was, you know,
it's interesting because Republicans historically have been sort of, you know,
maligned as this you know, big government or big business,
you know, pro big business, and they're just looking up
for the rich people and you know all of that.
And it's the Republicans who sort of wanted to do this,

(13:04):
do these business incentives and corporate welfare. But that really
has become the Democrats. And how talk about so as
to talk about that evolution and how the party has
sort of changed. And he he, he makes the case
and I agree with him that basically Trump is Trump
twenty sixteen is sort of the marker, and you have

(13:26):
new sort of new Republicans post twenty sixteen that are
you know, against you know, trade that hurts America, is
for working people. Does not you know, believe that we
should be giving hundreds of millions of dollars to Chinese
companies and crossing our fingers that they'll you know, create

(13:47):
jobs in places like Green Charter Township. And then you've
got the old Republicans who you know, believe in those things.
And so he really sort of credited President Trump as
sort of changing the party and in creating this new party.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
It is a break new world. And I'm telling you
a party, this current rendition of it. I think folks
got to get used to this because this is what
people wanted when you came out with record numbers. That's
what they wanted. They didn't want the same old, the
same old, and these parties seem to switch gears in
a lot of ways. By the way, the forty five
minute interview excellent stuff. You can see it. As you mentioned,

(14:27):
the Midwesterner on x will put links up to those pages.
But th dash underscore Midwesterner is the account online of
the Midwesterner News. Always always a fun time. Kyle. Thank
you for joining us and giving us the latest on
these stories and more that some won't even touch across

(14:48):
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more after this. West Michigan LI rolls on on Wood Radio.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Here are your headlines from the Midwesterner this Friday, May thirtieth.
I'm Robin Paffman. It's a Midwesterner Dot News original story.
Michigan has close to fifty million square feet of office space,
as many employees here still working remotely. Michigan owns roughly
eight hundred taxpayer owned buildings and five thousand structures. This

(15:27):
directly connected to Governor Gretchen Whitmer's extreme coronavirus lockdowns during
the pandemic. There is hope the remaining hostages still being
held by terrorists in Gaza could be coming home as
a ceasfire deal has been drafted. Here's White House Press
Secretary Caroline Levitt.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
Special Envoy Witkoff and the President submitted a seatsfire proposal
to Hamas that Israel backed and supported. Israel signed off
on this proposal before it was sent to Hamas. I
can also confirm that those discussions are continuing and we
hope that a ceasefire and Gaza will take place so
we can return all of the hostages home. And that's
been a priority from this administration from the beginning.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
And former New York City Police Commissioner Bernie Carrick has
died at the age of sixty nine. He was instrumental
in leading the city during the September eleventh terrorist attack,
alongside former Mayor Rudy Giuliani. For these stories and more,
visit The Midwesterner at the Midwesterner dot news.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
We are full speed ahead on a free for all Friday. Yeah,
it's Justin Barklay. We're alling right along. We're going to
check the news next and I have a kind of
a treat for you actually coming up after this. She
listens to this program, and I listen to her. She
kind of backs with science things that I've been saying
for years. So we'll trust this science in fact, follow it.

(16:47):
Coming up with our next guest right here on West
Michigan Lives. Don't go anywhere. Justin Barklay back next down
WOLD Radio. You know, one of the things that I
am big on is talking about sharing the good news
with you folks, no matter what the headlines. You know,
the God is still on the throne. And there's a
faith perspective in my approach the book that I wrote,
and of course there's some science to backett as well.

(17:11):
And our next guest has been someone who listens to
this program and is a great supporter, but also someone
on her own right has gone on this did some
great things on the national stage worldwide in fact. But
she's right here in our own backyard, and I want
to take a time day if we could, to just
talk a little bit about some of the science of
the things that we discussed. By the way, when the

(17:32):
news is coming at you like you're drinking from a
fire hose, you need stuff like this. She's a professional speaker,
corporate trainer, certified coach. Michelle Stephis's twenty years experience as
a leader, director, team builder and business builder and with
IPv Consulting again, she speaks on stages across the world
as she helps folks in business and in other ways
reframe and rewire greatness, shrewd daily routine in all kinds

(17:55):
of great ways that she works with folks. I wanted
to take a time if we in this conversation bring
a little bit of a sneak peak of a conversation,
bonus content and the podcast that you'll hear soon, but
to talk about some of those ways that you can
rewire yourself to see the good and the good news daily. Michelle,

(18:17):
you I love your approach. Obviously, you have this vast
history and experience working with leadership corporations, big business, you know,
executive types, and what you do is is really important,
and particularly I think with helping people kind of perform
and really I guess the way I'd put it to

(18:38):
show up the way they were created to the way
God sort of put us here to do. And one
of the things that that I thought we could do
today is really talk to people about some of the
things that I hear, questions that I hear quite a
bit from the audience, or maybe concerns or just the
things that I see that I like to maybe people

(19:00):
along with. In fact, you've written several books. We're going
to talk about those, and not just for the big
executive leadership folks, some for the kids too, which is great.
In fact, I see one in the background there. We'll
talk about that as well. But well, come in. We
appreciate you taking the time to be here. By the way,
a West Michigan local as well, Thank you.

Speaker 8 (19:24):
Thank you. I appreciate you having me on justin. It's
a joy to be with you and I love your
mission as well.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
Twenty years of hands on leadership, more than ten thousand
hours studying neuroscience, physiology, and human behavior. So I just
want to just lay that out there, folks, for you
to understand. She's the author of Reframe and Rewire Greatness
through Daily Routine, and she leads the IPv consulting business
where she helps those folks. Her mantra is it's all

(19:50):
about the people, as you just heard her say. So
let's start with this. You know, we I'm constantly bombarded
with headlines on a daily basis, the good, the bad,
and the ugly. But most of the stuff it bleeds,
it leads. You know, people are constantly getting all of
that negativity, and now more than ever. Because it used
to be you read your newspaper in the morning and

(20:11):
maybe if you're lucky, you got two, right, you got
one of the afternoon too, and you had plenty of
time to chew on all that get into, you know,
sort of the day, and and that stuff would settle.
But then we went to the Internet age. Well, first
it was cable, so that's satellite. We had twenty four
hour news, so they had to fill this news cycle
with more and more. Then it jumped to the internet,

(20:32):
and now we're on our phones, and this stuff never
stops because they survive all of the media, really and
clicks and beeps and bops and boos, all of that
stuff that they have to do in order to continue
to drive that monetization process. And I'm not gonna, you know,
criticize that as much as I am, maybe just to

(20:56):
make the point knowing those things, how do we make
sure that we set ourselves up because I don't think
the other thing is we don't stick herhead in the
sand and not pay attention to everything. We've got to
be well informed, but let's make sure it's news that
we can use and news that doesn't use us. How
do we do that?

Speaker 8 (21:16):
Well, I agree with you one hundred percent, and you
pointed out some really important things, and we are bombarded,
and you know, the essence of uncertainty has become a
sort of a trend.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
If you will.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
So we really don't know who to listen to or what.
But first of all, we have Justin Barclay who shares
a lot of truth. But I want to share a
little bit about neuroscience and what you can do aside
from the news and the patterns that you create in
your life and your brain, and then the routines that
you generate. So you have one hundred billion neurons in
your brain, you have since you were born, and from

(21:47):
that time to now you're wiring in neural pathways which
become neural networks. So you have a network you wired
in for driving, you have a network for your morning routine,
evening routine, your skills that you've learned, how you deal
with challenges, relationships, and on and on the list goes,
and those networks are serving us constantly twenty four to seven.
In fact, it's really referred to as you're subconscious and

(22:10):
you're operating an autopilot ninety percent of the time out
of your subconscious. So whatever you wire in is going
to come out in your thoughts, your reactions, and how
you respond to life in general. The good news is
you can rewire, which is hence the book Reframe and
Rewire by choosing different patterns and habits. This is not complicated, though.

(22:31):
It's even the smallest things that you do every day
that can make the biggest difference. So even if you
just say start out the day and your family has
a round of gratitude just you know, going around the
room or sending gratitude out of My husband and I
send gratitude messages to each other every day. Just a
small little blurb doesn't require much can shift the mind
to thinking things that are more productive. But even reading

(22:53):
the right materials and filling your mind and heart constantly
is going to cause your brain to respond. Now here's
the interesting thing about at that with every thought and
every action, you're releasing neural transmitters or neural chemicals. So
you have things like dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, a lot of
you may have heard of those. Those are very positive
neural chemicals that create a positive response. So the things

(23:16):
like you know, gratitude and so forth would come into play.
Whereas you can have negative neural chemicals that create a
negative response, and we allow too much negative in it
can continue to cascade into some really negative patterns.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting because some of this and
maybe we could give some people some real tools here
if you're listening to this today to make sure that
the news you know isn't taking over you know, I
say like this, you know, no matter what the headlines,
the good news is God is still on the throne,
and I try to convince people to remind them that

(23:49):
that's the thing I focus on. And how do I
do that? Well, you just said this something I never
considered the science behind it necessarily, although there are some
things in your books that you talk about that I
kind of linked up with two. But you know, one
thing I just always realized is is that you know
what I focus on. You know, I heard this in

(24:09):
the in the past over and over again. Is I'm
going to get more of it. I'm a see more
of it, and talked about the reticular activating system, pattern
recognition and things like that. So getting in the weeds here,
But this is your specialty, So like, let's just make
it as approachable as possible. If somebody is waking up,
they're anxious about the headlines or something in their life.

(24:30):
It could be just things that they're going on, you know,
in their own life. What is something a sixty second habit,
maybe something from your playbook there that that can flip
their brain from panic to purpose in an instant.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
That's fantastic. I love it so sixty seconds. I would
start out with gratitude, as I'd mentioned before, making maybe
making a list of ten things you're grateful for every day.
Gratitude is going to create the strongest amount of magnetic
end energy that creates a shift in your mind, but
also turning on something that's going to feed in positive
feedback that's going to reframe and get you out of

(25:09):
the mode or the habit that you have of listening
to negativity. But in addition to that, writing, anytime you
handwrite anything, it helps you. So journaling is going to
be a huge help. And then just doing good deeds
for others releases a lot of dopamine. So going out
of your way to show kindness or do a favor
for someone, or maybe buy coffee for the person in
line in front of you, all those things can help.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
I love that. I'm telling I just like Michelle, as
we talked more and more about this, like I'm just
lighting up because you know, I think I've got it.
I don't know if you're ever be up for this,
but I like I've got to like just tap into
your brain or maybe we can write a book together
about specifically, and that's kind of what I try to

(25:53):
do with my book. But you're just nailing some things
that I think would be so helpful for people. And really,
you know, you have this like way to explain the
science part of it, I think is so so specific
because you know, look, we're all doing this and we
find ourselves you're like scrolling through social media, you know,
And I mean I'm doing it all hours of the

(26:14):
night sometimes and I have to force myself, Okay, gotta
put the phone in. So I started, I don't take
my phone to bed. I put it. It's got a
whole nother room. It's got a bedroom in it said,
And I don't. I don't scroll. I try and I
try to just limit my you know, I need to
get better and better. But I'm trying this and I

(26:35):
do feel like it helps. So what do you you know,
what can maybe people do or what's some of the
science behind this. Maybe some tricks, some neuroscience tricks to help.
If you find yourself you're scrolling, they call it doom scrolling.
You're doom scrolling, and maybe help sort of get you
out of because in that moment, we're being pulled around

(26:56):
in so many different directions. You're in like fight or
flight mode. How can we how can we eject from that?

Speaker 8 (27:04):
Well, the good news is your phone can be used
to your advantage as well, So you can set timers,
you can set restrictions, you can download certain apps that
can help you to, you know, restrain yourself from certain
amounts of social media. You can also put reminders that
pop up on your phone frequently. Some of my clients
that I work with, I tell them, you know, put
your reminders up there that once an how you're going
to kind of think about what you're thinking about, remind

(27:26):
yourself to reframe, you know, or put up a reminder
to do something that causes someone else a blessing in
some way. But you can use your phone to to
play things. There's free videos out there on several different channels,
Rumble YouTube, you know, all sorts of Vimeo where you
can play really positive messages in and you can even

(27:47):
make it educational. So things maybe you want to learn
more about, like maybe emotional intelligence or resiliency, or perhaps
just learning how to be better in a relationship or
a marriage or a parental relationship can really fill your mind.
And every time you do that, you cause a rewiring
to occur. Because your neuron can only hold so many connections.

(28:08):
You have one thousand trillion synaptic connections to work on
by the time your age thirty five, and with those connections,
when you stop sending electrical energy at four hundred billion
actions per second to that neuron by thinking about it
over and over, meditating on it, listening to it, you know,
repeating it in your head again and again. When you

(28:28):
stop doing that through these triggers, then what happens is
the network or the neurons begin to lose those connections
and you begin.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
To grow new ones.

Speaker 8 (28:37):
So you can create a whole new system of networks
that completely changes the patterns and how you function on
a day to day and the triggers really help. Another
quick tip to is, you know, set triggers in your life,
so whatever habits you currently have, tie a good habit
to that so you remember every single time.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
All right. So the website, just so you know, I
want to make sure people I get a chance to
check it out. Ipvconsulting dot com. There's the alarm going.
I don't know if you can hear it. The alarms.
It's like a test for the weather. Everything's fine, it's beautiful,
and Sonny as we're as we're doing this conversation today,
but you can find out more there. And I also

(29:17):
want to remind folks the books you would love to
come speak with folks as well, but if people want
to reach out, they can get a lot of This
is the newest book, Necessary Significance. Let's talk a little
bit about this, because I have a feeling that's not
just for folks who are in business, but I mean, gosh,

(29:37):
something I think about every day. How can I be
more significant for my family, for people in my community.
How can I show up in a world the way
I was created to?

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Well?

Speaker 8 (29:49):
I appreciate that. Yes, Necessary Significance has been kind of
my life's work, if you will, in a very short,
forty eight page book. So it's about helping to build
significance in the lives of others because people will not
remember what you said, but they'll remember how you made
them feel. And that's a quote by Maya Angelou. But
it's also very true in terms of everyday life and

(30:10):
especially leadership, whether we're talking about leadership in your family,
or leadership in a community or even in an organization.
When we help people to feel their sense of value
and pull out the best in them, they not only
never forget you, but they forget they tend to rise
to a much higher level than they even thought possible
and become the best version of themselves. And there's a

(30:31):
lot of tips and questions to ask yourself in the book.
And I do all of my books with a workshop format,
so there's activities at the end of each chapter.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
So grab the books, check those out, make sure that
you do at IPv Consulting and will make sure that
we put the link up for later. So again, I'm
just thinking about this as you mentioned family, So you know,
I got two little girls foreign too, and one of
the things that I'm trying to be more present about
it just meant in the phone and think about okay,

(31:01):
my wife and I and that we're not looking at
our phone so much. I heard somebody tell a story
about how they noticed their kid at the playground they
had their phone out, and since I heard the story, man,
it really hit me hard. So I've tried to be
better about this myself. But they forgot their phone one
day I left it, and when they were at the
playground with their kid, they saw how many times their

(31:25):
son or daughter looked back at them while well, there's
my phone, interrupted me, sir. He thought I was talking
to her, sorry about that. See, nothing is everywhere, but
they saw how many times their son or daughter looked
back at them, and they just had the sinking feeling,
noting like when I come to the playground and I've
got my phone and I'm looking at my phone and
I'm just scrolling and I think this is there's nothing

(31:47):
happening here. My child is playing and everything's fine. I'm
missing those opportunities they're looking back and and sometimes it's
just like, are you still there? Do you see me?
Am I safe? And I just ever since I heard
that and it put that way, man, it just landed
on me. I have not been able to shake that.

(32:10):
And I have noticed it with my kids over and
over again. There's so many times during the day that
they're just checking in and my kids a lot of times,
our girls are just saying, watch this, dad, watch that,
watch me do this, and we get and so I
just don't want to miss that.

Speaker 8 (32:28):
Yeah, oh, you just hit the nail on the head justin.
And you know, we tend to overlook those things and
sometimes take for granted, but it is so precious to them.
And you know, as well as I do, kids grow
up way too fast. I mean, I've got a grandchild
now and I look at my son who's now forty.
You know, just how did that happen? But in the

(32:48):
first chapter of the book, I talk about just that,
We talk about how all stages of life were looking
for significance. So as a child, mom look at me,
you know, look what I can do? Right, They're trying
to show up. They want you to hang their picture
on the fridge. In their teen life, you're trying to
show off and find your place and peers. And then
as an adult you keep pursuing that significance through cars

(33:09):
and houses and jobs, and then even in the winter
of life, you just want to reconnect with your family.
It never goes away.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
And just to taste to the conversation. By the way,
the bonus podcast available now. You can check it out
if you want to go and download listen to the
iHeartRadio app. Michelle Stephis with IPv Consulting. By the way,
if you want to look her up online Ipvconsulting dot
com just a fantastic Whether you're a business or organization

(33:36):
you want to bring her in to do some training,
or maybe you're one of these individuals. It's a hard
charging and you want to find out how you can
do some things, or maybe even look into some of
those books and some of the great things she's doing
with the kids. It's just a fantastic resource right here
by our home backyard. Probably not the last time you're
going to hear from her. Always appreciate those conversations. Back

(33:58):
with more after this, we can ntinue free for all
Friday back next on West Michigan Live. First, we want
to say thank you to the folks at Guarding your
nest Egg for supporting this program every single day Mike
Lester and the team at Talinwealth guarding your nest egg
dot com. No matter what the markets are doing up now,

(34:18):
the roller coaster ride can always make you feel a
little queasy if you're paying attention to the wrong things,
if you're focused on the wrong issues. Now, if you're
working with Town and Wealth, chances aren't. You're sleeping well
at night and you're enjoying the ride. Whether you want
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to get you right where you need to go when

(34:40):
you need to be there. Reach out to Mike and
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Speaker 6 (34:52):
Here are your headlines from the midwestern Or this Friday,
May thirtieth. I'm Robin Hoffman. It's a Midwesterner dot News
originals story. Michigan lawmakers introducing a bipartisan package of four
bills involving cryptocurrency. The bill outlines protections for crypto user's
House Bill forty five to eleven establishes a cryptocurrency Bill

(35:14):
of Rights here at Michigan, Michigan with an astounding forty
eight million square feet of office space as many employees
still working remotely. This is a direct result of Democrat
Governor Whitmer's extreme COVID lockdown policies and President Trump to
hold a news conference today with Elon Musk thanking him
for all his work in the past few months with

(35:35):
the DOGE Committee.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Oh got allocating parlor of my time to TESLA and
now that the major work of establishing the Department of
Governor Efficiency has done.

Speaker 6 (35:45):
For these stories and more, visit The Midwesterner at the
Midwesterner dot news.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Here we go again and putting the ramps on the
week and the fastest hour seems like a short hour too,
but the fastest hour and radio just flying by. You know,
we got more for you coming up back next week Monday.
Don't miss a minute. The Glennback Program is next. It's
justin Barklay. We'll see you.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Then.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
They got a great weekend. God bless
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