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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tack into the latest in tech and how it affects
you and your world. This is tech Talk Tuesday on
Wood Radios West Michigan Live. I good Fred Trent Kenneby
is here with us, and like I mentioned, it's big
the iPhone, brand new iPhone coming out next week. I
know a lot of people are excited about that I
just mentioned. And this is sort of an unintentional commercial,
(00:21):
but I just mentioned that Trent. I have the thirteen now.
I bought it. I believe the thirteen pro. I bought
this from Trent. Full disclosure, my wife has one too,
and we haven't felt the need to upgrade since. And
they're just really good phones. So it's gonna be a
question again here as iPhone launches what maybe the seventeen
I guess is whether or not people are gonna splurge
(00:43):
and spring for that new phone, or whether or not
they can just upgrade to another. Maybe there's another phone
that's gonna get you a little bit better experience than
the one you're using. By the way, they have great
refurbished models, and like I said, like new, they're at
a portable eye storre. But welcome in Trent. This is
going to be a big one for I think a
lot of folks over the next week.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, good morning, justin.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, iPhone seventeen September nine is Apple's keynote to announce
that and all the features. There's lots of rumors out
there pretty much a week out. A lot of the
rumors are true. Actually, most of the rumors that people
have from leaked models, leaked information, most of it is true.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Sometimes Apple can sneak through a surprise.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
But yeah, the big things are is a smaller, lighter
phone called the Air, the iPhone seventeen Air model. It's
supposed to be a lighter, smaller phone, a little bit
more practical phone for the average Joe. Because to your point, justin,
a phone that's a couple years old is still doing
everything that we needed to. And the reason is is
technology has plateaued for the average show. Right, We text,
we call, we check our email, we have a few
(01:45):
apps on our phones. And unless you're like a hardcore
gamer or somebody who needs just a really incredible camera,
even the iPhone thirteen sells a great camera for just
basic cell phone type video. So there's not really any
crazy upgrades and that's not a bad thing. Apple's really
kind of banked on the thought that if we have
a really stable platform, a really good phone that's stable,
(02:07):
that's reliable, that doesn't have huge changes from your to ear,
it's going to make the end user experience consistent and good,
and it's going to make them very profitable. They are
not pushing the envelope on this phone with any special
cameras or special features. There's going to be some more
AI features released, not that the phone inherently has more aability,
(02:27):
they're just releasing it more with the iOS software to
do more AI type tasks.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So just to be clear, there's already AI in really
at work and a lot of things Siri and autocorrect,
and I'm noticed, like when I'm talking to because I
like to do the talk to text a lot, there's
a lot of AI in because that's every now and
then that's kind of buggy or glitchy.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yet AI is going to get better, justin in time.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's not going to be like a generational thing, like
you can't get the iPhone seventeen and all of a
sudden the speech to text is perfect. The difference is slowly,
as they improve the software, the AI will get better
It actually doesn't matter a ton on the phone you
use anything.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
iPhone fifteen the newer is like fully supported with.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I AI, the more advanced DIY tasks the older phones
than iPhone fifteen.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So fourteen and older have only.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Basic AI through through Serie and other third party apps.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, I got to be honest, I don't they're really
going to have to have a big, like a big
announcement for me, that's something big to move the needle,
because we're talking a lot, a lot of money, you
know when it comes to these things, and if I
don't need to spend anymore, I'm happy with that. I'm
more than happy. And if I could spend just a
couple hundred bucks, you know, Yeah, it's a little, it's
(03:42):
a little you know, it's a little easier and I
think a little a little easier to swallow that type
of hit at least. Anyway, we'll keep an eye on it. Again.
The announcement is it next tuesday? Isn't right?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, September ninth.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So we'll have it well, we may not even know
the full details of it next tuesday, but we'll have
a little bit more maybe leaks coming out that type
of thing speaking of AI the good, the bad, and
the ugly, and this one is just plain ugly. It's
being used right now to unmask ICE officers. Political has
a story about this, and I gotta tell you, I
(04:17):
just hate to see that because I know that there's
all kinds of this type of tech is being used
in military and government already. But it's a new twist
in the debate over surveillance tech. It's raising tough questions
for policymakers. An activist has started using artificial intelligence to
identify ICE agents beneath their masks, a use of the
(04:41):
technology sparking new political concerns over AI powered I would
say safety and security concerns more so even than politics.
Dominic Skinner, a Netherlands based immigration activist, estimates he and
a group of volunteers have publicly identified at least twenty
ICE officials recorded wearing mass during arrest. Now, what the
(05:03):
heck is a guy in the Netherlands doing getting into
our business here in the United States when it comes
to migrations. It makes it. It makes you wonder what
the real purpose behind all of this is?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It justin The interesting part about this is it seems
very partisan. ICE politically but really this should be a
bipartisan issue. When you have the technology for someone across
the globe or someone in our own country to identify
just about anybody and then put them up on the
Internet or do whatever they want with to say that
they're a bad person or somebody we should.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Target, it's usually neferis right.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
If you think about in the past, if we would
take someone's you know, name and phone number and blast
it up on the Internet and say anything about them,
that's just been scummy, sleazy. It's just something that's that's
just not a good thing to do. And there's really
not much rules or regulations on this on the US.
To my knowledge, I don't think there's anything illegal in
(05:56):
taking pictures of somebody, whether it's a personal person or
news you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That takes a picture of somebody, regardless of who they.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Are or what they're part of, and then online identify
that with AI technology is very easy to do now
and then post that information and say you're a bad person,
you know whatever. That's dangerous and that's something that's in
the hands of the average jo no, not just high
level government agencies.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
All right, let's stick with AI, because I got some
funny stories and then some not so funny because some
of this stuff is kind of scary. It's well, maybe
the best way to put it is is spooky. Anyway,
Will AI speak to the dead via an AI app?
In five years, they predict this, nobody will visit asymetery.
(06:41):
You'll just be able to talk to your dead relatives
on some sort of AI app. I think they're getting
close to doing this now, if they haven't already done it,
and you could already. I know Meta had a thing.
I think that it was out, yes, well maybe this
weekend where you could talk to and they had to
shut it down because they got caught doing it where
you could talk to like celebrities, So Taylor Swift and
(07:09):
a few others, they had an app setup where you
could just have these conversations. It would sound like you
were talking to these people, but in fact you weren't
very similar with this. But I'm really concerned about this
particular use. I think people are going to use AI
or chatbots to replace faith in a lot of ways.
(07:31):
Instead of you know, having a conversation with your maker,
prayer right is talking and listening, right, there's a little
bit of that both that goes both ways, and I
think people are going to learn and lean on this
in a way that is to me, is really concerning. True.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, justin AI can do things that were never realistic
in the past, right just for it, little is ten
minutes of somebody's personal voice, they can have a really
really good, realistic voice copy. And so if AI is
allowed to take someone's history of years of public social
media post or private camera you know, video and audio personals,
(08:10):
personal family videos and stuff, AI can recreate somebody's character,
how they talk, how they would answer question, and justin
that's just going back and giving it some piece of information.
If AI was set up to intentionally map someone's character
like they do for AI assistance, for example, they could
easily map out somebody to have Like you said, after
(08:30):
someone passes away.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Then they have a live version of them. And death
is something that's final.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's something that yeah, it's it's we have pictures and
memories of our loved ones after they pass away that
are special, but it's uncharted territory. How does that affect
our psyche? It blends, it kind of blends the what's
real and what's fake. And that's that's actually hard on people.
That's hard on on society. We are people that need
(08:55):
definitives and we still struggle with that. So definitely, very
strange territory that we're in. It's the long term consequence
of this. I don't know if anybody exactly knows, all.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Right, So let me give you the good now, because
we just heard the good, the bad, or the spooky anyway,
and ugly, here's the here's the good. So this is
just like AI when I tell you, it's just like
any other tool, although it's like it's unlike any other
tool we've ever had before. But it's like firearms or
fire when there's this jump in technology, we get this.
(09:26):
It's really all in the way the tool is being used.
So here's a story about an AI stethoscope that can
detect heart conditions in just fifteen seconds. In fact, it
may able to be able to tell whether you've got
heart disease, you're going to have a heart attack, all
kinds of things, Trent. This is this is where the
rubber meets a road, and particularly in medicine, where I
(09:47):
mean you might be able to help save lives in
ways that you never could before.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, justin there's many things of AI where I love
how it works. I love how it's used right for
AI to take audio, vibrations and different or sensor input
and to analyze that data. It can do that ten
times faster and more sensitive and better than a human
person can. And it's not trying to predict or be
(10:12):
you know, artificial intelligence. It's literally taking sensor data and saying, hey,
we're listening and hearing things that the human ear can't process.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That is amazing. That is awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
That is just simply scanning a data set that doesn't
have any creepy or scary thing, and it really truly
is amazing to find heart disease within seconds without any
you know, expensive or difficult testing. That's where we need
more AI to be used instead of trying to tell
us and operate us as humans of how we have.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To live our lives.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Treig can I be affordable, eye store, Lignes can drive
in standdal and Grand River Tech. He can help you
with your phone needs or your device, you tablet, whatever
it might be in your personal situation. But he also
has a way to help you whether you have a
business and organization get set up and get secure and
handle all sorts of needs so you can take care
(11:05):
of business and do it easily with our good friends
affordablizestore dot com, Grand Rivertech dot com. Thank you, Trent,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Thanks Justin. Have a great day.
Tack into the latest in tech and how it affects
you and your world. This is tech Talk Tuesday on
Wood Radios West Michigan Live. I good Fred Trent Kenneby
is here with us, and like I mentioned, it's big
the iPhone, brand new iPhone coming out next week. I
know a lot of people are excited about that I
just mentioned. And this is sort of an unintentional commercial,
(00:21):
but I just mentioned that Trent. I have the thirteen now.
I bought it. I believe the thirteen pro. I bought
this from Trent. Full disclosure, my wife has one too,
and we haven't felt the need to upgrade since. And
they're just really good phones. So it's gonna be a
question again here as iPhone launches what maybe the seventeen
I guess is whether or not people are gonna splurge
(00:43):
and spring for that new phone, or whether or not
they can just upgrade to another. Maybe there's another phone
that's gonna get you a little bit better experience than
the one you're using. By the way, they have great
refurbished models, and like I said, like new, they're at
a portable eye storre. But welcome in Trent. This is
going to be a big one for I think a
lot of folks over the next week.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, good morning, justin.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, iPhone seventeen September nine is Apple's keynote to announce
that and all the features. There's lots of rumors out
there pretty much a week out. A lot of the
rumors are true. Actually, most of the rumors that people
have from leaked models, leaked information, most of it is true.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Sometimes Apple can sneak through a surprise.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
But yeah, the big things are is a smaller, lighter
phone called the Air, the iPhone seventeen Air model. It's
supposed to be a lighter, smaller phone, a little bit
more practical phone for the average Joe. Because to your point, justin,
a phone that's a couple years old is still doing
everything that we needed to. And the reason is is
technology has plateaued for the average show. Right, We text,
we call, we check our email, we have a few
(01:45):
apps on our phones. And unless you're like a hardcore
gamer or somebody who needs just a really incredible camera,
even the iPhone thirteen sells a great camera for just
basic cell phone type video. So there's not really any
crazy upgrades and that's not a bad thing. Apple's really
kind of banked on the thought that if we have
a really stable platform, a really good phone that's stable,
(02:07):
that's reliable, that doesn't have huge changes from your to ear,
it's going to make the end user experience consistent and good,
and it's going to make them very profitable. They are
not pushing the envelope on this phone with any special
cameras or special features. There's going to be some more
AI features released, not that the phone inherently has more aability,
(02:27):
they're just releasing it more with the iOS software to
do more AI type tasks.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So just to be clear, there's already AI in really
at work and a lot of things Siri and autocorrect,
and I'm noticed, like when I'm talking to because I
like to do the talk to text a lot, there's
a lot of AI in because that's every now and
then that's kind of buggy or glitchy.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yet AI is going to get better, justin in time.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
It's not going to be like a generational thing, like
you can't get the iPhone seventeen and all of a
sudden the speech to text is perfect. The difference is slowly,
as they improve the software, the AI will get better
It actually doesn't matter a ton on the phone you
use anything.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
iPhone fifteen the newer is like fully supported with.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
I AI, the more advanced DIY tasks the older phones
than iPhone fifteen.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
So fourteen and older have only.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Basic AI through through Serie and other third party apps.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, I got to be honest, I don't they're really
going to have to have a big, like a big
announcement for me, that's something big to move the needle,
because we're talking a lot, a lot of money, you
know when it comes to these things, and if I
don't need to spend anymore, I'm happy with that. I'm
more than happy. And if I could spend just a
couple hundred bucks, you know, Yeah, it's a little, it's
(03:42):
a little you know, it's a little easier and I
think a little a little easier to swallow that type
of hit at least. Anyway, we'll keep an eye on it. Again.
The announcement is it next tuesday? Isn't right?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yes, September ninth.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
So we'll have it well, we may not even know
the full details of it next tuesday, but we'll have
a little bit more maybe leaks coming out that type
of thing speaking of AI the good, the bad, and
the ugly, and this one is just plain ugly. It's
being used right now to unmask ICE officers. Political has
a story about this, and I gotta tell you, I
(04:17):
just hate to see that because I know that there's
all kinds of this type of tech is being used
in military and government already. But it's a new twist
in the debate over surveillance tech. It's raising tough questions
for policymakers. An activist has started using artificial intelligence to
identify ICE agents beneath their masks, a use of the
(04:41):
technology sparking new political concerns over AI powered I would
say safety and security concerns more so even than politics.
Dominic Skinner, a Netherlands based immigration activist, estimates he and
a group of volunteers have publicly identified at least twenty
ICE officials recorded wearing mass during arrest. Now, what the
(05:03):
heck is a guy in the Netherlands doing getting into
our business here in the United States when it comes
to migrations. It makes it. It makes you wonder what
the real purpose behind all of this is?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
It justin The interesting part about this is it seems
very partisan. ICE politically but really this should be a
bipartisan issue. When you have the technology for someone across
the globe or someone in our own country to identify
just about anybody and then put them up on the
Internet or do whatever they want with to say that
they're a bad person or somebody we should.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Target, it's usually neferis right.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
If you think about in the past, if we would
take someone's you know, name and phone number and blast
it up on the Internet and say anything about them,
that's just been scummy, sleazy. It's just something that's that's
just not a good thing to do. And there's really
not much rules or regulations on this on the US.
To my knowledge, I don't think there's anything illegal in
(05:56):
taking pictures of somebody, whether it's a personal person or
news you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
That takes a picture of somebody, regardless of who they.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Are or what they're part of, and then online identify
that with AI technology is very easy to do now
and then post that information and say you're a bad person,
you know whatever. That's dangerous and that's something that's in
the hands of the average jo no, not just high
level government agencies.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
All right, let's stick with AI, because I got some
funny stories and then some not so funny because some
of this stuff is kind of scary. It's well, maybe
the best way to put it is is spooky. Anyway,
Will AI speak to the dead via an AI app?
In five years, they predict this, nobody will visit asymetery.
(06:41):
You'll just be able to talk to your dead relatives
on some sort of AI app. I think they're getting
close to doing this now, if they haven't already done it,
and you could already. I know Meta had a thing.
I think that it was out, yes, well maybe this
weekend where you could talk to and they had to
shut it down because they got caught doing it where
you could talk to like celebrities, So Taylor Swift and
(07:09):
a few others, they had an app setup where you
could just have these conversations. It would sound like you
were talking to these people, but in fact you weren't
very similar with this. But I'm really concerned about this
particular use. I think people are going to use AI
or chatbots to replace faith in a lot of ways.
(07:31):
Instead of you know, having a conversation with your maker,
prayer right is talking and listening, right, there's a little
bit of that both that goes both ways, and I
think people are going to learn and lean on this
in a way that is to me, is really concerning. True.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Yeah, justin AI can do things that were never realistic
in the past, right just for it, little is ten
minutes of somebody's personal voice, they can have a really
really good, realistic voice copy. And so if AI is
allowed to take someone's history of years of public social
media post or private camera you know, video and audio personals,
(08:10):
personal family videos and stuff, AI can recreate somebody's character,
how they talk, how they would answer question, and justin
that's just going back and giving it some piece of information.
If AI was set up to intentionally map someone's character
like they do for AI assistance, for example, they could
easily map out somebody to have Like you said, after
(08:30):
someone passes away.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Then they have a live version of them. And death
is something that's final.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
That's something that yeah, it's it's we have pictures and
memories of our loved ones after they pass away that
are special, but it's uncharted territory. How does that affect
our psyche? It blends, it kind of blends the what's
real and what's fake. And that's that's actually hard on people.
That's hard on on society. We are people that need
(08:55):
definitives and we still struggle with that. So definitely, very
strange territory that we're in. It's the long term consequence
of this. I don't know if anybody exactly knows, all.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Right, So let me give you the good now, because
we just heard the good, the bad, or the spooky anyway,
and ugly, here's the here's the good. So this is
just like AI when I tell you, it's just like
any other tool, although it's like it's unlike any other
tool we've ever had before. But it's like firearms or
fire when there's this jump in technology, we get this.
(09:26):
It's really all in the way the tool is being used.
So here's a story about an AI stethoscope that can
detect heart conditions in just fifteen seconds. In fact, it
may able to be able to tell whether you've got
heart disease, you're going to have a heart attack, all
kinds of things, Trent. This is this is where the
rubber meets a road, and particularly in medicine, where I
(09:47):
mean you might be able to help save lives in
ways that you never could before.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Yeah, justin there's many things of AI where I love
how it works. I love how it's used right for
AI to take audio, vibrations and different or sensor input
and to analyze that data. It can do that ten
times faster and more sensitive and better than a human
person can. And it's not trying to predict or be
(10:12):
you know, artificial intelligence. It's literally taking sensor data and saying, hey,
we're listening and hearing things that the human ear can't process.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That is amazing. That is awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
That is just simply scanning a data set that doesn't
have any creepy or scary thing, and it really truly
is amazing to find heart disease within seconds without any
you know, expensive or difficult testing. That's where we need
more AI to be used instead of trying to tell
us and operate us as humans of how we have.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
To live our lives.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Treig can I be affordable, eye store, Lignes can drive
in standdal and Grand River Tech. He can help you
with your phone needs or your device, you tablet, whatever
it might be in your personal situation. But he also
has a way to help you whether you have a
business and organization get set up and get secure and
handle all sorts of needs so you can take care
(11:05):
of business and do it easily with our good friends
affordablizestore dot com, Grand Rivertech dot com. Thank you, Trent,
always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Thanks Justin. Have a great day.
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