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Speaker 1 (00:00):
James Dixon, our good friend, joins us on the phone
this morning, and we're going to talk a number of
things here, Michigan centric, But first I got to start
with it. I think we're watching the death of the
Democrat Party. I talked about it yesterday, Gavin Newsom and
his social media escapades. In fact, we're watching the death
of woke and DEI and everything all together at the
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same time. Part of this is going to center around
Cracker Barrel, and I want to talk about that in
a second, because that's another one of these iconic, like
sort of like nineties brands that is at the top
of the conversation today. The other one is bed Bath
and Beyond, which I already sort of mentioned earlier this
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morning that they will not be They're going to start
opening stores again all throughout the country, and they will
not be reopening in the People's Republic of Commi Fournia.
Of course, this set off a whole firestorm with ruesome
Gavin Newsom on Twitter x or whoever the intern is,
it's running his stuff for him, and I want to
get to that and the reasons why why Marcus lamontis
sort of laid out for everyone. But first, let's welcome
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in James, James, good morning, How are you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Good morning? Justin great to hear your.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Boy, you too. So here's the clip, Marcus laying it out.
It's not politics, it's just reality. We can't afford it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well. I think the thing that was really surprising to
me is that I tried to articulate in a non
aggressive way exactly why our company wasn't going to reinvest
capital in California. And what I found out this afternoon
is that Governor k Newsom has enough time to respond
to a tweet as opposed to a private DM or
having somebody reach out to remind everybody in America that
in twenty twenty three, before we bought the intellectual property,
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that the company went out of business. We all know
the Bitbath went out of business a few years ago.
Now we're trying to make a comeback. And I would
think that a governor would want to attract investment, attract
capital into the state. In fact, he did the opposite,
He rejected it. It's a very simple model for me
as a capitalist myself. I want to do business in
all fifty states, and I want to do business with
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all people of all political parties. That's part of being
a capitalist. But what I don't want to do is
put my shareholders, my employees, and myself in the situation
were were regulated to a zero, and we don't want
to spend one hundred million dollars coming into California and
then find out that the state's going to take it
all and waste it all.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
I mean, that's that's not political, that's practical, and it's
it's absolute reality. By the way, Marcus Lamonti is not
a dumb guy. He's you know, been around the block.
He's part of the camping world, a big business. But
he also he has multiple He had that show on
TV for a while to profit. Interesting guy, but I
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thought he made really good points.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, I think what's driving this. Obviously Gavin knew
some of the team are obnoxious, right, that's the thing.
But I think the thing behind the thing here, this
business hostility, is ad growth mindset that they actually believe
we don't need these guys, We'll find the way we are.
And so, you know, politics, business these are games of addition.
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You know, you can occasionally have an addition by subtraction situation,
but for the most part, you want to be growing
as opposed to shrinking. The growth says, we only want
to deal with the people who are aligned with what
we do. The growth says, it doesn't matter how much
money you make or you lose, just that you move
in locksteps. It's not business. And so someone like Marcus Lamonis,
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who wants to do business has just been told and
everyone who's following and watching was just told not in California.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
You know, it's wild to me. It's it's we get
that we get some companies try to do the right thing,
and on the other hand, we get some companies out
there that are just stay disks, can't get it right
no matter what. I think, it's a similar so to
get into this, I think what we're watching is the
find We're in the find out era portions of this,
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and we're finding out that some of these well, these
decisions have consequences. Cracker Barrel launched a new logo yesterday
the Internet exploded. But this is also in line with
the remodeling that they've done inside their stores and restaurants,
and people don't like it at all. They've completely gotten
rid of all of the charm of the old Cracker Barrel,
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you know, and unfortunately they've sort of whitewashed the walls.
And one look at the CEO. Who's got the glasses.
I don't know if you've seen the glasses. There's the
pictures of meme out there. There's a meme with all
these people. They're on the left with these glasses, and
you're like, what happened? What's the glasses? Well, one look
at her glasses that I knew all right, I got
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to ask this question. I think i'd probably know to answer.
What if all the customers are coming at you hard
enough about the look at a restaurants and they want
to go back to the old way, would you do it?
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Honestly, the feedback's been werewhelmingly positive that people like what
we're doing.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
That's a lie, that's a ceo. She got a talking
point from PR somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
I'll give you another SoundBite. I actually happened to be
in Orlando last week with all of our managers. We
bring them together and once every other year, and the
number one question that I got asked Michael was how
can I get a remodel? When can I get a remodel?
How do I get on the list. So, because the
feedback and the buzz is so.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
From the managers, by the way, not the not the
actual you know, the folks that are shopping there, by
the way, here's the logo. Folks are watching the behind
the scenes live stream. What they did is they got
rid of the barrel, and they got rid of the
cracker sitting next.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
They got rid above them, which I thought, well, you know, and.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
The old country store which is down beneath, and they
made it this sort of It really is commy barrel.
I mean, if anybody familiar with like the way communist
architecture is and how nasty, that's what they've done here.
It's just so sad. They sucked all the character and
essentially the tradition out of it. That's what they've done.
They sucked the soul out a cracker barrel. And that's
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what these these.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
People do, a strategic mistake for the Left because when
they do it in apartment buildings right the building, all
these apartments in ann Arbor, they look just like each other,
with the fake balconies that you can't even actually demand
on right, you might not notice that, or you might
not think it affects you because you drive by it.
It's ugly I'm not going to live there. But when
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they do it the things you love, it draws too
much attention. Yeah, and it makes you say, well, obviously
this is wrong. Obviously this is not business again, this
is the growth. And so it's happening both within the
government sphere with the Gavin Newsom's but also with the
corporate sphere with the cracker barrels, where no one is
here to make the most money possible. Everyone is here
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to put their politics first and foremost.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Yes. Yes, My wife asked me about this yesterday and
she said, what is going on with crag brou So?
It's pretty simple. You know, about ten years ago they
had this move in Wall Street to put in as
many women's CEOs, you know, for diversity, equity and inclusion,
to put any and many women's CEOs they could into place,
not because of the merit that they were someone who
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earned it and were rock stars. In fact, you look,
I got two daughters, so I'm all for women's empowerment.
But let's not let that be at the expense of
anything else. In this situation. It's going to be expensive
the whole brand they put this woman in. And I'll
tell you what's happening, James. She's trying to make her
mark and without doing anything of real substance to bring
people in. She said, let's put lipstick on a pig
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and that'll do it. And this is the problem. It's
the same as the move is bringing her in to
be the CEO. It's not real. There's nothing of substance there.
Do something to actually bring customers in or make them
love your brand even more, and you'll win. If it's
stuff like this, you're just turning half the people off.
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You're not gonna win. And that's why I think again,
it's just like Gavin Newsom and what he's doing right
now on Twitter, what people are doing for him on
Twitter X, whatever they're doing with their social media push
the memes and all this other stuff. It's not gonna work.
They're trying to troll Trump, they're trying to be controversial,
but they're not doing it in an authentic way, and
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it's just gonna fall flat on its face. There's you know,
I'm just love to get your take on this, but
you know, I think there's a small percentage of people
who are foaming at the mouth, who have Trump arrangement syndrome,
who are going to love what they're doing. But the
people that Gavin Newsom really needs to win over the
people he was trying to talk to when he first
came out on all these different podcasts, tried to talk
like he was middle of the road. Those people aren't
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buying this and they're completely turned off by it. He's
actually putting the nail in the coffin of his.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Political career, justin do you remember when you first started
to like girls and he wanted to know what to
do and what to say and what did your mom say?
Just be yourself. That's what works for Donald Trump, and
that's why it doesn't work when people try to act
like Trump. I tell people all the time, you know,
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if I'm driving around with a family member or something
like that, if you see me pull a move on telegraph,
don't think that you can then do it. Right. Just
because I can get away with it doesn't mean you
can go set out to do it. It's the same
thing here. Donald Trump can get away with things that
are crazy, but if you set out to act like him,
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it's not gonna work because you're gonna be left with
that question, why are you acting like anything? Why aren't
you speaking from the heart. Why aren't you an honest
person who's just hey, I'm gonna come out here and
be who I am, and you like it or you
don't like it. Why can't you just be yourself?
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Speaking of those problems, Jocelyn Benson that common Michigan, lots
of issues melting down. I guess this maybe is her
authentic self on the news the other day over Trump
promise to endmail in ballots. The same time this is happening,
she's also got bigger fish, bigger issues going on that
she's going to deal with. Secretary of State's office we
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find out now had to pay seven hundred and seventy
five thousand dollars to a supervisor who allegedly said that
there was a racially hostile environment created Deadline Detroit. With
that that story, she's got skeleton after skeleton and going
up now not just against whoever the Republican nominee, but
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somebody who looks like they're going to try to be
very formidable in Duggan, the mayor of the current mayor
of Detroit. Wow, she's this is not a great news
cycle for her right now.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I mean this, and this is why Secretary of state
is not traditionally a platform for governor because one, it's
a real day job, like it's not just some kind of,
you know, no work job. There's real things you can do.
And two, it's avoidable and so people can see the
things you do, unlike a lawmaker. And so Gretchen Whitmer,
all you knew about here was kind of the thing
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she said about herself, But there wasn't a ton of
scrutiny available because lawmakers were, you know, were not subject
to FOYA back then, and they're still not. And so
this is the real problem with Jocelyn Benson is that
her performance at her job is so bad that it
really speaks against any need for a promotion. So one
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of two things that's true here, justin with this lawsuit settlement.
Either Jocelyn Benson's department is racially hostile and that's why
they gave out three quarters of a million, or they're
not racially hostile and they gave out three quarters of
a million of our dollars for fun or just to
an ally or just to help out their friends who's
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a trial lawyer. None of those answers are good. Option
two is actually the worst one in that case, it
would be good news for Benson if she was just
racially hostile.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, bad news from the entire left, whether your Democrats
and the party is dying taking its last sort of
gasps here desperately in trying to attempt to gab backway
of the story in the New York Times yesterday that
they're having a real hard time registering people to vote
right now. So, if you're Joscelyn Benson or maybe even
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your Gavin Newsom Mountain comedy for you, you're trying to
make a run for the president, and he's got a
very similar situation. I think he and Dougan actually have
a there's a lot of connections to those two who
are trying to both they both ruined the areas that
they're in charge of in some ways. Dougan says he's
made Detroit come back. But James, I don't know anybody
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outside of that, you know, sort of like elitist sort
of donor career that that that sit that feels that
way about anything outside of that little tiny bubble in
the city.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
It's about Republican is what I call them, where all
you experience of just is what you see between when
you park and when you get to the stadium and
the stadium and back to your car and within that
little green zone before you hit the freeway. Man, the
lights are shining and bright. It's gorgeous. You're not going
to be accosted. It's generally safe. Maybe not Greek Town
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so much, but most of it is safe. What about
the other one hundred and thirty square miles of the city.
It feels like it's almost rude to ask about that,
because that's bits in the face of his whole campaign.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
Isn't that something?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, it's just And this is another case where we
are so detached from actual facts and actual track records
that the media is essentially taking what Mike Duggan says
about himself as if true. The Midwesterner is supposedly a
conservative website. They just covered the Mike Dugan event. I
kept looking for that disclaimer that said this is like
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an advertorial and not a news story. They called what
they did a news story. They covered the dug event
lot like. It was like, why are you covering it live?
We all know that obviously Dugan's gonna throw at dug
in favorable event. What's the live angle? The live angle
as you're supporting Mike Duggant. What.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I wouldn't go that far. I will say, I think
what they probably were hoping for us to have coverage
and have in case anything happens, they have it and
can use it. I know there's no just just from
my knowledge of those folks, I don't think there's any
favoritism towards Duggan at all.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
But yeah, no, no, I understand it.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Listen, my friend James Dixon always a pleasure. You can
follow him online. James is on X one of my
favorite places to watch and read. Over there down I
seventy five. Hey, what about your new project? Quickly?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, it's called something Else with James David Dixon. Tuesday
nights on X at seven pm. This week, I'm having
my friend jayceon Lanley. We're going to talk about the
upcoming Michigan football season.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Looking forward to it. Always a pleasure, my friend. Thank
you for taking the time.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Thank you justin you got it.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
God bless