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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's West Michigan Live with Justin Barklay on Wood Radio.
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Corga, Ben Folks, Ben oh Man Man. It's Friday of
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Story number one Alaska man arrested for threatening to assassinate
Trump and six conservative Supreme Court justice. This Democrat voters
threatened to kidnap and torture.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Clarence Thomas.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And starting to sense some sort of pattern develop here
with all the crazies. They're violent, rudderick and their threats.
But you know that's I think that's probably obvious at
this point. Oh, by the way, speaking of kind of obvious,
and why wouldn't it be nice? Wouldn't be interesting to
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see this happen and it's going to Trump had to
Springfield and Aurora.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And I'm going to Aurora.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You may never see me again. But that's okay.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I made this joke the other day and I think
that was a rally in New York. Folks excited about that. Yeah,
they held a town hall there last night. As Kamala
and Oprah were doing their town hall life from Farmington
Hills in the Ozombic Studios if a veg. Grandmaswami did
one from Springfield, Ohio, his home state, which is actually
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kind of interesting. Kamala asking about well, was asked about
her plan, what she's going to do to help lower
the cost.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of living. Her answer is just.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Astoundedly, just just brilliantly ignorant.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Listen to what she.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Really would love to know, what your plan is to
help lower the cost of living.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, first of all, thank you both for being here
and yours is a story I hear around the country
as a travel and in terms of both rightly having
the right to have aspirations and dreams.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You're rightly having the right to have aspirations of dreams.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Got it, shock and ambitions for your family, Yes, and
working hard and finding that the American dream.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
She grew up in the middle class. I don't know
if you know that they took care of their loss for.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
This generation and so many recently, far more elusive than
it's been.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's true, and we need to deal with that.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
It'serful and there are a number of ways. One is
bringing down the cost of everyday necessities, including groceries.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
That's how they're going to do it, folks. She's going
to bring down the cost of living by bringing down
the cost of everyday necessities like groceries. That's that's her plan.
Kamala Harris. By the way, it just I got clips
of this throughout the show. Maybe we'll give you more
and more so that you can.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You can enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
But the President Trump's brand new at its might be
the best ad they've done yet for him, is.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Another day under biden nomics.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
Morning coffee costs sixty five percent more, gas forgetting to
work costs doubled, workers' incomes down three straight years, groceries
cost you twenty percent more, and mortgage payments astronomical.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Bidenomics is working and we are very proud of Bidenomics.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Pleasant dreams.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm Donald J. Trump and I approved this message. It's
probably the best ad they've done so far. Had a
chance to talk with Byron Donald's congressman from Florida about
this race, Michigan's importance and of course what we're facing.
And man, oh man, he you know, guys always fired up,
always willing to have some great conversations. But I'll tell
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you he made some great points today Byron Donald's out
of Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You can hear the full interview.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
We'll play you just clips from it, but the full
interview over at justin Barkley dot com, the iHeartRadio app,
wherever you download your podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But just nailed it this.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Morning, Donald Trump. I mean, he's a force of nature.
I mean everybody knows this. He is a center of gravity.
It's a rare person like him, you know, in politics,
or even frankly in life. I mean, you talk about
this culture, entertainment industry. You know, you really have to
start talking about him in terms of like you know,
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Jordan or Tiger, because he just moves people. It's just
I've seeing up close and personal people gravitate towards him.
So he's really past politics at this point. That's kind
of how he he is. But then you take up
You got to look at the country. People who are
working hard every single day. They know they falling behind
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because they're putting the hours on the job, they put
them in consistently, they get the paycheck, they go home,
they're sitting with their families and they're like, wait a minute,
I just got to raise why is it that we're
still falling behind? Even stuff like you go to the supermarket,
you buy, you know, whatever it is you want to
buy a bag of chips, cookies, bread, eggs, beef, bacon,
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Either the packages are smaller or you're paying much more money.
You know, when people are having to use their credit
cards to buy their groceries. America needs to change, and
nobody knows that better than people who basically get up
at six am or five thirty am or five am
every day to get to the job, just to work
and make into meet for your family. If Kamala Harris,
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Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have let them down and
they're looking at this economy and they're saying, you know what,
we need Trump. And then you got the fact that
Kamala Harris can't even put together two minutes of coherence
economic thoughts. She can't. Everything's a word salad. It's really
That's why I think working people in our country are saying,
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you know what, give me Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Kamala was here with Oprah and they did their virtual
town hall here and I just watched it just from
the pure media production standpoint of watching what they did,
and it's kind of well, it's kind of glorious the
fact that they gave her the Oprah treatment and she
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still came out looking like the way she did a
bit of a word salad mix up last night here
some of this.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
We love our country. I love our country. I know
we all do. That's why everybody's here right now. We
love our country. We take pride in the privilege of
being American, and this is a moment where we can
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and must come together as Americans understanding we have so
much more in common than what separates us.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I've never met somebody or seen somebody say so much
and yet so very little at the same time. And
I don't think there anything does it better than watching
the look at Oprah's face. She's wand she come with
talk about all of this last night incredible.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (08:11):
I watched it and Oprah was like jumping in to
try to bail her out of her word salad yea.
It happened like five different times Oprah would jump in
or chime in. They're like, oh yeah, but but remember this,
what about that? And it would refocus Kamala Harris, the
lady doesn't have anything. Been in comment the other day.
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She's no, she couldn't save her. Look, she's been in
politics for two decades. I've been on Capitol Hill four years.
I was in the State House for four years. If
you wanted to talk to me about economics, I could
sit there and talk to you for thirty minutes straight
about economics. Everything from tax policy, through trade policy, through
capital formation, wages, labor costs, et cetera. We could have
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that conversation. She's been in politics for two decades and
she can't even talk about it for two minutes. America,
especially Michigan, Michigan, there is nothing there. It's all talking points,
it's all platitudes. If she becomes president, nothing's going to
change because the radicals in the Democrat Party, they want
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to keep the economic conditions the way they are right now.
They want to leave the border exactly the way it
is right now. They're just slowing it down so you
don't have the pictures in the middle of a presidential election.
But they're going to turn this picket back on. This
is their plan. Listen, the one thing she said, and
this is the one thing that was absolutely true that
Dana Bash interview, which was also a debacle. Her values
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haven't changed, same person. She's just trying to run for
president and win. That's it, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And to that point, Bio McDonald's congressman from Florida with
us right now.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Some really.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Just striking testimony yesterday former Chief Border Patrol Agent Aaron
heide Key talking about on what he experienced, data hidden
on terror encounters, one hundred and fifty thousand flights to
fly illegals to Texas, zero resources to track fentanyl and
you'll wonder why the country's such a mess. Another major
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issue that folks are concerned with.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
In San Diego, we had an exponentially increased in significant
interest aliens.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
These are aliens with significant ties to terrorism.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
Prior to this administration, the San Diego sector averaged ten
to fifteen siars per year.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Once it was out the border was far easier to cross.
Speaker 10 (10:33):
San Diego went to over one hundred sias in twenty
twenty two, well over that in twenty twenty three, and
even more than that registered this year.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
These are only the ones we caught.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know what's interesting to me is they've been doing
this the whole time to get away with it, hiding it.
And you know this is even as you mentioned, as
Biden had to run for reelection, they had to know
that some of this stuff was going to come out.
Now you imagine they get another four years to run
this game. What's the country going to look like? What
we even have one after that? Alf said and down in.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Honestly, if you let the if she wins, we're gonna
start looking a lot more like Western Europe where they
are overrun with illegal immigrants who don't assimilate into the
country and start changing portions of America and people, you know,
they would probably say, well, that's xenophobic. Well, first, I'm
a black man, ain't xenophobic. That's just reality. The truth
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is is back when Donald when Joe Biden became president
in twenty twenty one, we went down to the border
and we were talking to border agents three months after
he put it if he made all those changes, basically
ripping up Trump's border policy, and then they were like,
all the kids were amassing in the detention facilities because
at the time only unaccompanied children could come across, and
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so the kids that are mashing in the defensive facilities,
we go down there to look. The Biden administration did
want members of Congress to enter the facilities. We had
to basically be like, we're paying for all this, we're
going in. At that point, that's when the Biden administration
started coming up with the strategy of just dispersing these
children all across the United States. The reason why they
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did that is because they didn't want the pictures of
people overwhelming the detention facilities of border patrol agents, so
they started dispersing them everywhere so that nobody could say anything.
So the media could be like, well, we don't have
any pictures. We can't see what's happening. It's all by design.
This is their grand plan. They want open borders, they
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want massive illegal immigration, they want to break the system,
and we can't allow that. As Americans look, people have
had their political viewpoints for a long time, but this
is not about Republican Democrat anymore. This is about common
sense and having common sense policy when it comes to immigration,
obviously when it comes to our and the person who
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brings that is Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I R Donald's congressman from Florida. We know things that
are heating up, not only in this race but also
in Michigan, and it matters, you know, now more than ever.
We've been asking people to get out there, but not
only get out there yourself, make sure that you take
your friends and your family and people go to church
with whoever it might be. I know there's one point
seven million low propensity. That means they normally don't vote,
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but if they did vote, they would vote conservative. They
would vote for Trump one point seven million in this state.
If we just get a fraction of those folks, we
win Michigan and Connorson. I think if we can win
the state. There's a lot of folks will say we
can win the country. But I think it's even bigger
than the nation right now, because as America goes, so
goes the rest of the.
Speaker 9 (13:47):
World's totally true. Look, Michigan obviously is super key critical state. Look,
I'll tell you right now, if Donald Trump wins Michigan,
he's winning the election. I'll tell you that right now now,
because I think the same people who are upset and
who are bewildered, they feel left behind, They don't know
how the country gotten to this point. They live in Michigan,
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but they also live in Pennsylvania, they live in Wisconsin,
they live in Arizona, they live in Nevada, they live
in every state in our country. And the reason is
is because we have witnessed the worst presidential administration in
American history. This thing is bad. And if you take
the time even to listen to a Kamala Harrison interview,
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you can quickly see that she has no answers for
what has gone wrong while she's been sitting there in
the White House, and she has really no intentions of
fixing anything. She just wants to run off the clock
and fool people into voting for her, but we can't
let her get away with that. We got a country
to save. We can really make America great again. But
there's only one person who's going to do it, and
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that's Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Congress Obiron MacDonald says, you taking the time to be
here with us today.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Not a problem.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
Take it easy.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, the Ray sat now in so many ways, and
of course, look, things are just getting start.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We still got a long way to go between now
and then.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I know it's still seemed like going to forty some
odd days now whatever, forty six, forty five, whatever it is,
and it seems like nothing. But at the same time,
it's an eternity and so much can happen from here
to there. Well, I'll tell you we'll be here with
you through it all. We'll give you a chance to
join the program. And we got Tucker tickets coming out.
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Speaker 4 (15:45):
We gotta check news bottom of the hour, coming up
here and do some moment And yes, I still have
the Tucker tickets to give out. We're taking calls uh
from you first, So just to say this is first,
I want to hear from you. If you have something
that you want to weigh in on. That's normal free
for all Friday. But we also have Tucker tickets and
I'm not giving them away just yet.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You have to be patient. I see that the flood
of calls that just came in for Adam and he's
in there losing it.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's okay, we'll get through this, uh, but you just
gotta be a little bit more patient.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Those tickets are coming up. So hang on, folks.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, we got a chance for you to go see Tucker.
We're gonna get you in momentarily stand by. I hope
people are very excited. They're passionate about getting these tickets.
I get it, boy, I want you to get them
to I want you to go to be a great
night tonight. All right, so let me uh let me
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do this thirteenth in Okay, right now, I see Adam
opening up the lines. Here's the number six one six
seven seven four six seven seven four twenty four. That's
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the number and thirteenth in we'll get to go see
Tucker and Kid Rock tonight Van Andalorina, and we love
to make sure that that happens.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Coming up, there's a big event. We had a chance
to talk to this guy.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
We did a podcast, Bill Federer, great author, speaker. You're
gonna love the guy, conservative historian and just knows his stuff.
I was floored, Uh, just fascinated by this conversation. Came
away saying we got to do more of this. But
we did a great conversation, uh for our podcast which
drops this week and it's already up on locals at
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justin Barklay dot com locals, but I wanted you to
hear a bit of it coming in for a Kent
County GOP event Bill Federer.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
And so we set up a covenant former government that
was borrowed from ancient Israel the first four hundred years
out of Egypt, and the peer to actually saw themselves
as fulfilling and carrying out the Hebrew Republic right before
they That's why they taught Hebrew at Yale and Harvard.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
So anyway, there.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Is a life cycle to civilizations like I mentioned, and
they go from a seedlingk to a sapling to a
bearing fruit for a long time, and then they started
to get old and rotten and worm eaten, and then
they collapse. And so if you study the civilizations, but
in particularly the republics and democracies where the people are
the king, they go through this life cycle.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
They work. There's a jd.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Unwin is a Oxford anthropologist. He wrote a book in
nineteen thirty four called Sex and Culture, and he observed
eighty major civilizations over five thousand years.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
So I guess I'm not the only one that likes
to do that type of thing.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
And he's observed trends and some of the trends he
saw was that sexual promiscuity always proceeds the collapse of
a civilization.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
It's like, wow, this is interesting.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
And he just said civilizations go through four stages, a
period of pain and poverty. Right, they go through a war,
they go through a family, and they make it through that,
and they work hard and they get productive, and then
they work together and they get patriotic, and then they
want to they achieve prosperity, and then they want to
enjoy their prosperity and they get promiscuous and indulgent and weakened,
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and then they get conquered by the next rising civilization.
And anyway, it's a fascinating study, but we're somewhere on
it ourselves. And there's a Oswald Spengler historian, and he
said civilizations go through a center of pedal, in the
center of fusial, right, they go through a period where
they're all working together, like a teather ball that you're hitting.
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Its tied to a rope to that pole, and it
gets tight and tired. Everybody's working together, there's a synergy.
And then he says it goes through the center pedal,
where it's going in the opposite direction, and it's been,
in fact sur faster to fly it apart. There's a
Chinese saying, after a long time, an empire rises, and
after a long time, the empire falls apart.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
And so we're at.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
A place where we're trying to maintain by time repent
like ancient Israel, right, they would go through these periods,
and I think there's hope, And I think the hope
is every person that's viewing. You know, all liberty is individual,
all repentance is individual, and we need to get back
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to each one of us having a conscience, each one
of us getting involved and realize that what are the
stories we love the best? It's when things look hopeless
and the good Lord raises up little nobodies with faith
and courage. Right, the story of Moses, an eighty year
old man against the most powerful military in the world, Pharaoh,
little teenager David against Goliath, this.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Big, huge guy.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
And you know in esther where she has the courage
to go in and see the king, even if she
could die.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
And so this is just our turn.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And I think that we should care about posterity, you know.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Our found I know I'm on a rottle role here,
but our.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Founders sacrifice their prosperity for their posterity.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I love it. Keep going, This is good, This is
great stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
So our founder sacrifice their prosperity for their posterity. They
pledge their lives and their fortunes and their sacred on
or for a generation yet unborn. Yet it's flipped. Today
people are sacrificing their posterity for prosperity. I mean, we're
adding a trillion dollars of debt every one hundred days,
and we don't care that our kids are going to
be stuck with it.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It's a very selfish attitude, but I think that we
should care about what kind of country we're leaving our kids.
I think there's an awakening of people and it's going
to be a bad dash for the gate. Those that
want power, that have been seizing power tiers have two
tools in their toolbucks, fraud and force.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Fraud is they lie to you and you've give them
your freedoms because you're believing the lies. You stop believing
the lies and they begin to drop in popularity in
the public opinion polls. The only other tool in their
toolbox is force, and they want to purge their military,
their Department of Justice, anything and just put in yes,
men's that'll that'll carry out their tyranny.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
And so we're we're at this stage.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I do think there's hope, and there's been discouraging times
in the past, and people with faith encourage it, stood
up and I believe it's enough people watch your show
and let others like it and get awakened and get
involved that we can buy time and give our kids
a chance to have the freedoms we have.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, from your lips to God's ears, this is this
is This is something that I'm encouraged by because I
have seen more people, and particularly in the last five
years or so, stand up and engage and become active in.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This this uh, this fight.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
But the one thing we can't do is sit back
and say, well, you know, God it I heard a
lot of that during twenty twenty, as you know, God's
in control, and I said that a few times myself,
but I had to sort of reshape that because I
realized that that was leading people to think you don't
have to do anything, you can just sit back on
the couch, eat your popcorn and watch everything play out.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And I changed that.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
To God is still on the throne because no matter
what we face, no matter what we're going through, ultimately
I believe he wins in the end. But it really
requires our participation. That's why we're here. Otherwise we wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Why would we be here. I believe if we're breathing,
there's a reason, and.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
So that each one of us is called specifically to
do certain things.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And right now, you and I maybe it's this interview.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
We're supposed to have this conversation, but there's somebody listening
to this right now that's that's what I'm mostly encouraged
with somebody listening to this right now that's going to
take action, and they're going to make a difference. They're
going to make an impact, and they probably aren't many
of them in their daily lives, but it requires us
to do those things. And that's what I hear you said.
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So I'm i'm I'm I'm curious because all of your
vast knowledge of the history of empires in world history,
we're constantly hearing about things like, you know, the the
Fourth Turning, and we see those memes online that say,
you know, you know, hard times lead to strong men,
strong men, good time.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know, it goes through that that that whole.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Cycle, in that process in the in the good times
lead to week men. And it feels like that's kind
of the part of the cycle that we're in now.
So how do we break out of that and leave
our country somewhat intact, especially at a time when I think,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
We're at the we're at the crossroads.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Things could go a very very bad way here in
the next year or so.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, boy, you you do have a great insight. A
very impressed. Uh So the quote I like is from
Jonathan Trumbull. He was a Connecticut governor under the British
and he switched and became the only governor to become
an American governor. Jonathan Trumble he writes to George Washington,
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and he said, to trust altogether to the justice of
our cause. Without our utmost exertion would be tempting providence.
In other words, we don't just trust. Well, we're on
the just side, and let's just pray and sit back,
and we have to give our utmost exertion, right, otherwise
we're tempting providence. So we pray as if everything's up
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to pray, and we do like everything's up to doing.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I wrote a book called Believe, and I sort of
examined sort of different things in faith wise, and it's
the thought that God knows the future. But in a sense,
he knows all the possible futures, and he tells you
what they are.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
And he lets you choose, and he's smart enough to
know how you're.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Going to choose, right, and so he has Deuteronomy twenty
eight blessings and cursings. Right, if you harken to the
voice of the Lord, this will be your future. You'll
be the head, not the tail bobbing out. But if
you'll be blessed coming in, bless coming up. But if
you don't harken to the voice of the Lord, this
will be your future. The stranger will come in amongst
you and rise up above you, and they will be
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the head, and you will be the tail. They'll be above,
and you'll beep beneath. You'll be the debtor, and they'll
be the lender. Right, and so this idea of that
you God has the ultimate end. It's going to end
exactly the way he wants. I talk about how He
created light, and light is a photon, which is a
perpendicular wave in the electromagnetic field.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
The travels out one hundred and six thousand miles per second.
And God stretched out the heavens.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
He also stretched out the electromagnetic feel that like could
travel across the heavens. And Einstein's theory or relativity is
the closer you can travel approaching the speed of light.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
For you, time would slow.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Down, and if you could travel the speed light, for you,
time would stand still. God created light. He's faster than light.
So for God, time stands still. We'll never comprehend that,
But there's a verse that says a day with the
Lord is as a thousand years. In other words, we're
living in slow motion compared to God. Why is that important?
Speaker 7 (26:56):
We make our.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Little free will decisions, but we're moving so slow. He
can reach other all the variables. He can readjust every
electron in the universe. Right, because so it's his will.
It's going to take place, so our limited free will
in the context of unlimited sovereign will.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
And it works because he's outside of time.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
He has a plan for each of our lives, and
we can yield to it, or we can fudge, you know,
it says some crows thirtyfold, sixty fold, one hundredfold, and
or we could harden our heart and say no, God,
I'm not going to do it. And sort of like
Bordecai told esther, well, okay, if you're not going to
rise up, God will raise up somebody else to deliver
the Jews, right, And then we can repent and say God,
(27:31):
I missed you.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Give me another chance, and he can rearrange everything to
give us another chance.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And since he's outside of time, God himself can be
with each of us all the time, and it's swing
a GPS on your phone. You make a wrong turn,
it recalculates. And what if the guy in the car
nexture makes a wrong turn and his recalculates, And what
if everybody in the world's making wrong turns right, So
we make good decisions, we make bad decisions.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
God's outside of time.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
He can readjust all the electrons so that his will's
going to take life. Time is moving, right, Jesus said,
I'm the beginning, in the end, the alpha and the omega,
the first and the last. Right, there's the creation, and
there's the judgment.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
So it's moving. But God's outside of time. Again, it's incomprehensible.
But we have our.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Little free will decisions. But He's ultimately still in control.
And so instead of us sitting back and say, okay,
I mean, imagine Israel. Do you think ancient Israel achieved
exactly what God had planned for?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Well, you read the scriptures.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
When they sent those twelve spies into the Promised Land
and ten came back and said we can't do it.
God was very upset, and he struck ten of those
spies dead on the spot, tells the other ones, every
one of you is going to want it for four.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Years till you're dead, and I'll bring your kids in.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
It's pretty clear that God was upset they did not
act out his perfect will. One time, he was going
to destroy him and Moses, and he tells Moses step aside,
I'm going to destroy him. I'll I'll make a new
nation out of you. And I think from God's point
of view, he saw it. He could see that he
couldn't make a new nation out of But Moses stood
in the gap and said, God, have mercy on them. Yeah,
there are stubborn people, but give another chance. And and
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so it's his interplay. I mean, God created ninety three
billion light years worth of universe. He is all powerful,
all knowing, all eternal, omniscient, right, And I could get
into it.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
More, but but it's a little preachy. But it's this
idea that we have.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
God expects us to do something, and all we're different
than all of the creation. Everything else follows rules, laws
of planetary motion, laws of gravity, laws of physics, law
to animals, follow instinct. And so we're the beings that
he created with the free will. And and so the
idea is he puts us in these situations almost to
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see what we're going to do and and so if
we sit back. So my title my new book is
called Silence Equals Consent, and it's this idea that at
a wedding, you're silent, you're you're actually giving consent to
the wedding goals. And so if there's evils going on
in the community and the church members are silent, oh,
we're spiritual at our church.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
We don't get involved in politics. It's like, yeah, you're silent.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
You're giving your approval, you're giving your consent to all
the evil stuff that's out there, and you're becoming an
accessory to the crime by your silence.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yes, yes, absolutely. Now I think there's too many churches.
We went through what we've gone through the last few years,
particularly in twenty twenty. I think it was an opportunity
for the church to stand up as a whole and
really be there for people when they needed the most,
and at that moment, I think a lot of a
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lot of them failed. There were some really good ones
that thrived through it, actually, that did the right things,
and we've seen that. I particularly am proud that I
had go to a church that was there and and
did those things.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
But I think boys.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
That is really Silence equals consent, the sin of omission.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's the name of the book.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
And by the way, he's going to be in town
speaking about all of this. His name's William Federer. Bill
Federer will be in and he's doing an event with
the folks Faith and Freedom Dinner Thursday the twenty six,
that's next week. I believe they close out tickets for
this on money, so you've got to make sure you
get your tickets soon if you want to get them.
Dinner at six point thirty Byron Center. Silence equals consent,
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Speak now or forever lose your freedom.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And he's right on the money about this. One of
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Geopolitical World Stage will leave you with a clear understanding
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faith instrumental in saving our freedoms as well as future generations.
And of course all of the details will put up
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Kent County Republican Committee. And of course you can get
all of that info, as I said, online today will
get our info up from the Stack, but a fantastic conversation.
I've barely scratched the surface with what you were able
to hear today, thirty forty minutes of a great conversation.
I'm convinced we're going to have more in the future.
I just absolutely love talking to Fascinated by it Bill
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Federer and in town next week to twenty six. Details
at the Stack and I'll make sure it gets up
online as well.
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Barry Counties on the line, Don, good.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Morning, Good morning, Justin. I appreciate you taking my call.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
My pleasure, absolutely fantastic, thanks sir.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Good good. Hey, I'll be brief.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You guys were talking about low propensity voters. I'm the
chair of the communications committee with Barry County Republican Party.
Were actually doing a five week ad targeting campaign in
Berry County trying to reach these low propensity voters Christians, hunters,
young people. I've got ads all worked up. I'm willing
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to share them with any other Republican Party or any
organization out there that wants access to this stuff. It's
chock full of information, it's bright, colorful, just plastered everywhere
all over Michigan. One point seven million people don't vote,
and if we can get them to turn out, we
can change the direction of this country.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What how can folks get hold of you? I'll be
careful that I.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Want to say, don't get a phone over out unless
you expect calls.
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There you go.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I appreciate it, sir, Thank you. Don I appreciate the
hard work everybody. We've gotta need all hands on deck
for this. I think that's the important takeaway for the selection.
And I think that's a takeaway bills making and everybody else. Look,
we know and the polls are looking good.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I don't want to, you know, sugarcuat it, but I
just I don't want to tell you that the polls
are looking good. But I also gotta be careful about
how I I walk that line, because I only get
you too excited then you want to go out and
do what we gotta do. We've got to have all
hands on debt. At the end of the day, it's
got to be too big to rig. They're pulling out
all the stops. Had a great conversation with Patty McMurray
today that will be up in the podcast. Didn't have
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time to play it for you here, but great conversation
with her today on the morning show with Detroit and
and she walks through exactly what's being done.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Uh and the next pigs here.
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She just had an article came out on the on
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Just fantastic stuff. Keep an eye on in the meantime
that that site we were talking about earlier, tennex votes
dot com. That's ten x votes dot com. Find ten
friends who don't vote and we win. They always uh
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have great ways for us to do this and I
did this a brand new thing that we're working on.
And I got to tell you, I'm very excited for
what's it? What's at stake? All right, folks, gold Back
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threatened to kidnap and torture.
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And starting to sense some sort of pattern develop here
with all the crazies. They're violent, rudderick and their threats.
But you know that's I think that's probably obvious at
this point. Oh, by the way, speaking of kind of obvious,
and why wouldn't it be nice? Wouldn't be interesting to
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see this happen and it's going to Trump had to
Springfield and Aurora.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
And I'm going to Aurora.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
You may never see me again. But that's okay.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I made this joke the other day and I think
that was a rally in New York. Folks excited about that. Yeah,
they held a town hall there last night. As Kamala
and Oprah were doing their town hall life from Farmington
Hills in the Ozombic Studios if a veg. Grandmaswami did
one from Springfield, Ohio, his home state, which is actually
(02:21):
kind of interesting. Kamala asking about well, was asked about
her plan, what she's going to do to help lower
the cost.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Of living. Her answer is just.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Astoundedly, just just brilliantly ignorant.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Listen to what she.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Really would love to know, what your plan is to
help lower the cost of living.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Yeah, first of all, thank you both for being here
and yours is a story I hear around the country
as a travel and in terms of both rightly having
the right to have aspirations and dreams.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
You're rightly having the right to have aspirations of dreams.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Got it, shock and ambitions for your family, Yes, and
working hard and finding that the American dream.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
She grew up in the middle class. I don't know
if you know that they took care of their loss for.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
This generation and so many recently, far more elusive than
it's been.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
It's true, and we need to deal with that.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
It'serful and there are a number of ways. One is
bringing down the cost of everyday necessities, including groceries.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
That's how they're going to do it, folks. She's going
to bring down the cost of living by bringing down
the cost of everyday necessities like groceries. That's that's her plan.
Kamala Harris. By the way, it just I got clips
of this throughout the show. Maybe we'll give you more
and more so that you can.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
You can enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
But the President Trump's brand new at its might be
the best ad they've done yet for him, is.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Another day under biden nomics.
Speaker 8 (04:03):
Morning coffee costs sixty five percent more, gas forgetting to
work costs doubled, workers' incomes down three straight years, groceries
cost you twenty percent more, and mortgage payments astronomical.
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Bidenomics is working and we are very proud of Bidenomics.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Pleasant dreams.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I'm Donald J. Trump and I approved this message. It's
probably the best ad they've done so far. Had a
chance to talk with Byron Donald's congressman from Florida about
this race, Michigan's importance and of course what we're facing.
And man, oh man, he you know, guys always fired up,
always willing to have some great conversations. But I'll tell
(04:47):
you he made some great points today Byron Donald's out
of Florida.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You can hear the full interview.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
We'll play you just clips from it, but the full
interview over at justin Barkley dot com, the iHeartRadio app,
wherever you download your podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
But just nailed it this.
Speaker 9 (05:03):
Morning, Donald Trump. I mean, he's a force of nature.
I mean everybody knows this. He is a center of gravity.
It's a rare person like him, you know, in politics,
or even frankly in life. I mean, you talk about
this culture, entertainment industry. You know, you really have to
start talking about him in terms of like you know,
(05:24):
Jordan or Tiger, because he just moves people. It's just
I've seeing up close and personal people gravitate towards him.
So he's really past politics at this point. That's kind
of how he he is. But then you take up
You got to look at the country. People who are
working hard every single day. They know they falling behind
(05:46):
because they're putting the hours on the job, they put
them in consistently, they get the paycheck, they go home,
they're sitting with their families and they're like, wait a minute,
I just got to raise why is it that we're
still falling behind? Even stuff like you go to the supermarket,
you buy, you know, whatever it is you want to
buy a bag of chips, cookies, bread, eggs, beef, bacon,
(06:10):
Either the packages are smaller or you're paying much more money.
You know, when people are having to use their credit
cards to buy their groceries. America needs to change, and
nobody knows that better than people who basically get up
at six am or five thirty am or five am
every day to get to the job, just to work
and make into meet for your family. If Kamala Harris,
(06:33):
Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have let them down and
they're looking at this economy and they're saying, you know what,
we need Trump. And then you got the fact that
Kamala Harris can't even put together two minutes of coherence
economic thoughts. She can't. Everything's a word salad. It's really
That's why I think working people in our country are saying,
(06:56):
you know what, give me Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
You know, it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Kamala was here with Oprah and they did their virtual
town hall here and I just watched it just from
the pure media production standpoint of watching what they did,
and it's kind of well, it's kind of glorious the
fact that they gave her the Oprah treatment and she
(07:22):
still came out looking like the way she did a
bit of a word salad mix up last night here
some of this.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
We love our country. I love our country. I know
we all do. That's why everybody's here right now. We
love our country. We take pride in the privilege of
being American, and this is a moment where we can
(07:47):
and must come together as Americans understanding we have so
much more in common than what separates us.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
I've never met somebody or seen somebody say so much
and yet so very little at the same time. And
I don't think there anything does it better than watching
the look at Oprah's face. She's wand she come with
talk about all of this last night incredible.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Listen.
Speaker 9 (08:11):
I watched it and Oprah was like jumping in to
try to bail her out of her word salad yea.
It happened like five different times Oprah would jump in
or chime in. They're like, oh yeah, but but remember this,
what about that? And it would refocus Kamala Harris, the
lady doesn't have anything. Been in comment the other day.
(08:33):
She's no, she couldn't save her. Look, she's been in
politics for two decades. I've been on Capitol Hill four years.
I was in the State House for four years. If
you wanted to talk to me about economics, I could
sit there and talk to you for thirty minutes straight
about economics. Everything from tax policy, through trade policy, through
capital formation, wages, labor costs, et cetera. We could have
(08:57):
that conversation. She's been in politics for two decades and
she can't even talk about it for two minutes. America,
especially Michigan, Michigan, there is nothing there. It's all talking points,
it's all platitudes. If she becomes president, nothing's going to
change because the radicals in the Democrat Party, they want
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to keep the economic conditions the way they are right now.
They want to leave the border exactly the way it
is right now. They're just slowing it down so you
don't have the pictures in the middle of a presidential election.
But they're going to turn this picket back on. This
is their plan. Listen, the one thing she said, and
this is the one thing that was absolutely true that
Dana Bash interview, which was also a debacle. Her values
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haven't changed, same person. She's just trying to run for
president and win. That's it, you know.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
And to that point, Bio McDonald's congressman from Florida with
us right now.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Some really.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Just striking testimony yesterday former Chief Border Patrol Agent Aaron
heide Key talking about on what he experienced, data hidden
on terror encounters, one hundred and fifty thousand flights to
fly illegals to Texas, zero resources to track fentanyl and
you'll wonder why the country's such a mess. Another major
(10:16):
issue that folks are concerned with.
Speaker 10 (10:17):
In San Diego, we had an exponentially increased in significant
interest aliens.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
These are aliens with significant ties to terrorism.
Speaker 10 (10:25):
Prior to this administration, the San Diego sector averaged ten
to fifteen siars per year.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Once it was out the border was far easier to cross.
Speaker 10 (10:33):
San Diego went to over one hundred sias in twenty
twenty two, well over that in twenty twenty three, and
even more than that registered this year.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
These are only the ones we caught.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
You know what's interesting to me is they've been doing
this the whole time to get away with it, hiding it.
And you know this is even as you mentioned, as
Biden had to run for reelection, they had to know
that some of this stuff was going to come out.
Now you imagine they get another four years to run
this game. What's the country going to look like? What
we even have one after that? Alf said and down in.
Speaker 9 (11:08):
Honestly, if you let the if she wins, we're gonna
start looking a lot more like Western Europe where they
are overrun with illegal immigrants who don't assimilate into the
country and start changing portions of America and people, you know,
they would probably say, well, that's xenophobic. Well, first, I'm
a black man, ain't xenophobic. That's just reality. The truth
(11:30):
is is back when Donald when Joe Biden became president
in twenty twenty one, we went down to the border
and we were talking to border agents three months after
he put it if he made all those changes, basically
ripping up Trump's border policy, and then they were like,
all the kids were amassing in the detention facilities because
at the time only unaccompanied children could come across, and
(11:54):
so the kids that are mashing in the defensive facilities,
we go down there to look. The Biden administration did
want members of Congress to enter the facilities. We had
to basically be like, we're paying for all this, we're
going in. At that point, that's when the Biden administration
started coming up with the strategy of just dispersing these
children all across the United States. The reason why they
(12:17):
did that is because they didn't want the pictures of
people overwhelming the detention facilities of border patrol agents, so
they started dispersing them everywhere so that nobody could say anything.
So the media could be like, well, we don't have
any pictures. We can't see what's happening. It's all by design.
This is their grand plan. They want open borders, they
(12:40):
want massive illegal immigration, they want to break the system,
and we can't allow that. As Americans look, people have
had their political viewpoints for a long time, but this
is not about Republican Democrat anymore. This is about common
sense and having common sense policy when it comes to immigration,
obviously when it comes to our and the person who
(13:01):
brings that is Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I R Donald's congressman from Florida. We know things that
are heating up, not only in this race but also
in Michigan, and it matters, you know, now more than ever.
We've been asking people to get out there, but not
only get out there yourself, make sure that you take
your friends and your family and people go to church
with whoever it might be. I know there's one point
seven million low propensity. That means they normally don't vote,
(13:28):
but if they did vote, they would vote conservative. They
would vote for Trump one point seven million in this state.
If we just get a fraction of those folks, we
win Michigan and Connorson. I think if we can win
the state. There's a lot of folks will say we
can win the country. But I think it's even bigger
than the nation right now, because as America goes, so
goes the rest of the.
Speaker 9 (13:47):
World's totally true. Look, Michigan obviously is super key critical state. Look,
I'll tell you right now, if Donald Trump wins Michigan,
he's winning the election. I'll tell you that right now now,
because I think the same people who are upset and
who are bewildered, they feel left behind, They don't know
how the country gotten to this point. They live in Michigan,
(14:10):
but they also live in Pennsylvania, they live in Wisconsin,
they live in Arizona, they live in Nevada, they live
in every state in our country. And the reason is
is because we have witnessed the worst presidential administration in
American history. This thing is bad. And if you take
the time even to listen to a Kamala Harrison interview,
(14:31):
you can quickly see that she has no answers for
what has gone wrong while she's been sitting there in
the White House, and she has really no intentions of
fixing anything. She just wants to run off the clock
and fool people into voting for her, but we can't
let her get away with that. We got a country
to save. We can really make America great again. But
there's only one person who's going to do it, and
(14:52):
that's Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Congress Obiron MacDonald says, you taking the time to be
here with us today.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Not a problem.
Speaker 9 (14:57):
Take it easy.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, the Ray sat now in so many ways, and
of course, look, things are just getting start.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
We still got a long way to go between now
and then.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
I know it's still seemed like going to forty some
odd days now whatever, forty six, forty five, whatever it is,
and it seems like nothing. But at the same time,
it's an eternity and so much can happen from here
to there. Well, I'll tell you we'll be here with
you through it all. We'll give you a chance to
join the program. And we got Tucker tickets coming out.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I'll call Justin now at six one, six seven seven
four twenty four twenty four at six one, six seven
seven four twenty four to twenty four, West Michigan Live
with Justin Barclay on News Radio with thirteen hundred and
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Speaker 4 (15:45):
We gotta check news bottom of the hour, coming up
here and do some moment And yes, I still have
the Tucker tickets to give out. We're taking calls uh
from you first, So just to say this is first,
I want to hear from you. If you have something
that you want to weigh in on. That's normal free
for all Friday. But we also have Tucker tickets and
I'm not giving them away just yet.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
You have to be patient. I see that the flood
of calls that just came in for Adam and he's
in there losing it.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
It's okay, we'll get through this, uh, but you just
gotta be a little bit more patient.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Those tickets are coming up. So hang on, folks.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yeah, we got a chance for you to go see Tucker.
We're gonna get you in momentarily stand by. I hope
people are very excited. They're passionate about getting these tickets.
I get it, boy, I want you to get them
to I want you to go to be a great
night tonight. All right, so let me uh let me
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do this thirteenth in Okay, right now, I see Adam
opening up the lines. Here's the number six one six
seven seven four six seven seven four twenty four. That's
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the number and thirteenth in we'll get to go see
Tucker and Kid Rock tonight Van Andalorina, and we love
to make sure that that happens.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Coming up, there's a big event. We had a chance
to talk to this guy.
Speaker 4 (17:18):
We did a podcast, Bill Federer, great author, speaker. You're
gonna love the guy, conservative historian and just knows his stuff.
I was floored, Uh, just fascinated by this conversation. Came
away saying we got to do more of this. But
we did a great conversation, uh for our podcast which
drops this week and it's already up on locals at
(17:39):
justin Barklay dot com locals, but I wanted you to
hear a bit of it coming in for a Kent
County GOP event Bill Federer.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
And so we set up a covenant former government that
was borrowed from ancient Israel the first four hundred years
out of Egypt, and the peer to actually saw themselves
as fulfilling and carrying out the Hebrew Republic right before
they That's why they taught Hebrew at Yale and Harvard.
Speaker 7 (18:08):
So anyway, there.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Is a life cycle to civilizations like I mentioned, and
they go from a seedlingk to a sapling to a
bearing fruit for a long time, and then they started
to get old and rotten and worm eaten, and then
they collapse. And so if you study the civilizations, but
in particularly the republics and democracies where the people are
the king, they go through this life cycle.
Speaker 7 (18:32):
They work. There's a jd.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
Unwin is a Oxford anthropologist. He wrote a book in
nineteen thirty four called Sex and Culture, and he observed
eighty major civilizations over five thousand years.
Speaker 7 (18:46):
So I guess I'm not the only one that likes
to do that type of thing.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
And he's observed trends and some of the trends he
saw was that sexual promiscuity always proceeds the collapse of
a civilization.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
It's like, wow, this is interesting.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
And he just said civilizations go through four stages, a
period of pain and poverty. Right, they go through a war,
they go through a family, and they make it through that,
and they work hard and they get productive, and then
they work together and they get patriotic, and then they
want to they achieve prosperity, and then they want to
enjoy their prosperity and they get promiscuous and indulgent and weakened,
(19:26):
and then they get conquered by the next rising civilization.
And anyway, it's a fascinating study, but we're somewhere on
it ourselves. And there's a Oswald Spengler historian, and he
said civilizations go through a center of pedal, in the
center of fusial, right, they go through a period where
they're all working together, like a teather ball that you're hitting.
(19:49):
Its tied to a rope to that pole, and it
gets tight and tired. Everybody's working together, there's a synergy.
And then he says it goes through the center pedal,
where it's going in the opposite direction, and it's been,
in fact sur faster to fly it apart. There's a
Chinese saying, after a long time, an empire rises, and
after a long time, the empire falls apart.
Speaker 7 (20:07):
And so we're at.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
A place where we're trying to maintain by time repent
like ancient Israel, right, they would go through these periods,
and I think there's hope, And I think the hope
is every person that's viewing. You know, all liberty is individual,
all repentance is individual, and we need to get back
(20:30):
to each one of us having a conscience, each one
of us getting involved and realize that what are the
stories we love the best? It's when things look hopeless
and the good Lord raises up little nobodies with faith
and courage. Right, the story of Moses, an eighty year
old man against the most powerful military in the world, Pharaoh,
little teenager David against Goliath, this.
Speaker 7 (20:53):
Big, huge guy.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
And you know in esther where she has the courage
to go in and see the king, even if she
could die.
Speaker 7 (20:59):
And so this is just our turn.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And I think that we should care about posterity, you know.
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Our found I know I'm on a rottle role here,
but our.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Founders sacrifice their prosperity for their posterity.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
I love it. Keep going, This is good, This is
great stuff.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
So our founder sacrifice their prosperity for their posterity. They
pledge their lives and their fortunes and their sacred on
or for a generation yet unborn. Yet it's flipped. Today
people are sacrificing their posterity for prosperity. I mean, we're
adding a trillion dollars of debt every one hundred days,
and we don't care that our kids are going to
be stuck with it.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
It's a very selfish attitude, but I think that we
should care about what kind of country we're leaving our kids.
I think there's an awakening of people and it's going
to be a bad dash for the gate. Those that
want power, that have been seizing power tiers have two
tools in their toolbucks, fraud and force.
Speaker 7 (21:53):
Right.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Fraud is they lie to you and you've give them
your freedoms because you're believing the lies. You stop believing
the lies and they begin to drop in popularity in
the public opinion polls. The only other tool in their
toolbox is force, and they want to purge their military,
their Department of Justice, anything and just put in yes,
men's that'll that'll carry out their tyranny.
Speaker 7 (22:16):
And so we're we're at this stage.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
I do think there's hope, and there's been discouraging times
in the past, and people with faith encourage it, stood
up and I believe it's enough people watch your show
and let others like it and get awakened and get
involved that we can buy time and give our kids
a chance to have the freedoms we have.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Well, from your lips to God's ears, this is this
is This is something that I'm encouraged by because I
have seen more people, and particularly in the last five
years or so, stand up and engage and become active in.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
This this uh, this fight.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
But the one thing we can't do is sit back
and say, well, you know, God it I heard a
lot of that during twenty twenty, as you know, God's
in control, and I said that a few times myself,
but I had to sort of reshape that because I
realized that that was leading people to think you don't
have to do anything, you can just sit back on
the couch, eat your popcorn and watch everything play out.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
And I changed that.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
To God is still on the throne because no matter
what we face, no matter what we're going through, ultimately
I believe he wins in the end. But it really
requires our participation. That's why we're here. Otherwise we wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Why would we be here. I believe if we're breathing,
there's a reason, and.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
So that each one of us is called specifically to
do certain things.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
And right now, you and I maybe it's this interview.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
We're supposed to have this conversation, but there's somebody listening
to this right now that's that's what I'm mostly encouraged
with somebody listening to this right now that's going to
take action, and they're going to make a difference. They're
going to make an impact, and they probably aren't many
of them in their daily lives, but it requires us
to do those things. And that's what I hear you said.
(24:02):
So I'm i'm I'm I'm curious because all of your
vast knowledge of the history of empires in world history,
we're constantly hearing about things like, you know, the the
Fourth Turning, and we see those memes online that say,
you know, you know, hard times lead to strong men,
strong men, good time.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
You know, it goes through that that that whole.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Cycle, in that process in the in the good times
lead to week men. And it feels like that's kind
of the part of the cycle that we're in now.
So how do we break out of that and leave
our country somewhat intact, especially at a time when I think,
you know.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
We're at the we're at the crossroads.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
Things could go a very very bad way here in
the next year or so.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
Yeah, boy, you you do have a great insight. A
very impressed. Uh So the quote I like is from
Jonathan Trumbull. He was a Connecticut governor under the British
and he switched and became the only governor to become
an American governor. Jonathan Trumble he writes to George Washington,
(25:06):
and he said, to trust altogether to the justice of
our cause. Without our utmost exertion would be tempting providence.
In other words, we don't just trust. Well, we're on
the just side, and let's just pray and sit back,
and we have to give our utmost exertion, right, otherwise
we're tempting providence. So we pray as if everything's up
(25:27):
to pray, and we do like everything's up to doing.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (25:31):
I wrote a book called Believe, and I sort of
examined sort of different things in faith wise, and it's
the thought that God knows the future. But in a sense,
he knows all the possible futures, and he tells you
what they are.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
And he lets you choose, and he's smart enough to
know how you're.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Going to choose, right, and so he has Deuteronomy twenty
eight blessings and cursings. Right, if you harken to the
voice of the Lord, this will be your future. You'll
be the head, not the tail bobbing out. But if
you'll be blessed coming in, bless coming up. But if
you don't harken to the voice of the Lord, this
will be your future. The stranger will come in amongst
you and rise up above you, and they will be
(26:08):
the head, and you will be the tail. They'll be above,
and you'll beep beneath. You'll be the debtor, and they'll
be the lender. Right, and so this idea of that
you God has the ultimate end. It's going to end
exactly the way he wants. I talk about how He
created light, and light is a photon, which is a
perpendicular wave in the electromagnetic field.
Speaker 7 (26:28):
The travels out one hundred and six thousand miles per second.
And God stretched out the heavens.
Speaker 5 (26:32):
He also stretched out the electromagnetic feel that like could
travel across the heavens. And Einstein's theory or relativity is
the closer you can travel approaching the speed of light.
Speaker 7 (26:40):
For you, time would slow.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
Down, and if you could travel the speed light, for you,
time would stand still. God created light. He's faster than light.
So for God, time stands still. We'll never comprehend that,
But there's a verse that says a day with the
Lord is as a thousand years. In other words, we're
living in slow motion compared to God. Why is that important?
Speaker 7 (26:56):
We make our.
Speaker 5 (26:57):
Little free will decisions, but we're moving so slow. He
can reach other all the variables. He can readjust every
electron in the universe. Right, because so it's his will.
It's going to take place, so our limited free will
in the context of unlimited sovereign will.
Speaker 7 (27:09):
And it works because he's outside of time.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
He has a plan for each of our lives, and
we can yield to it, or we can fudge, you know,
it says some crows thirtyfold, sixty fold, one hundredfold, and
or we could harden our heart and say no, God,
I'm not going to do it. And sort of like
Bordecai told esther, well, okay, if you're not going to
rise up, God will raise up somebody else to deliver
the Jews, right, And then we can repent and say God,
(27:31):
I missed you.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
Give me another chance, and he can rearrange everything to
give us another chance.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
And since he's outside of time, God himself can be
with each of us all the time, and it's swing
a GPS on your phone. You make a wrong turn,
it recalculates. And what if the guy in the car
nexture makes a wrong turn and his recalculates, And what
if everybody in the world's making wrong turns right, So
we make good decisions, we make bad decisions.
Speaker 7 (27:54):
God's outside of time.
Speaker 5 (27:55):
He can readjust all the electrons so that his will's
going to take life. Time is moving, right, Jesus said,
I'm the beginning, in the end, the alpha and the omega,
the first and the last. Right, there's the creation, and
there's the judgment.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
So it's moving. But God's outside of time. Again, it's incomprehensible.
But we have our.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
Little free will decisions. But He's ultimately still in control.
And so instead of us sitting back and say, okay,
I mean, imagine Israel. Do you think ancient Israel achieved
exactly what God had planned for?
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Well, you read the scriptures.
Speaker 5 (28:27):
When they sent those twelve spies into the Promised Land
and ten came back and said we can't do it.
God was very upset, and he struck ten of those
spies dead on the spot, tells the other ones, every
one of you is going to want it for four.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
Years till you're dead, and I'll bring your kids in.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
It's pretty clear that God was upset they did not
act out his perfect will. One time, he was going
to destroy him and Moses, and he tells Moses step aside,
I'm going to destroy him. I'll I'll make a new
nation out of you. And I think from God's point
of view, he saw it. He could see that he
couldn't make a new nation out of But Moses stood
in the gap and said, God, have mercy on them. Yeah,
there are stubborn people, but give another chance. And and
(29:06):
so it's his interplay. I mean, God created ninety three
billion light years worth of universe. He is all powerful,
all knowing, all eternal, omniscient, right, And I could get
into it.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
More, but but it's a little preachy. But it's this
idea that we have.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
God expects us to do something, and all we're different
than all of the creation. Everything else follows rules, laws
of planetary motion, laws of gravity, laws of physics, law
to animals, follow instinct. And so we're the beings that
he created with the free will. And and so the
idea is he puts us in these situations almost to
(29:44):
see what we're going to do and and so if
we sit back. So my title my new book is
called Silence Equals Consent, and it's this idea that at
a wedding, you're silent, you're you're actually giving consent to
the wedding goals. And so if there's evils going on
in the community and the church members are silent, oh,
we're spiritual at our church.
Speaker 7 (30:05):
We don't get involved in politics. It's like, yeah, you're silent.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
You're giving your approval, you're giving your consent to all
the evil stuff that's out there, and you're becoming an
accessory to the crime by your silence.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Yes, yes, absolutely. Now I think there's too many churches.
We went through what we've gone through the last few years,
particularly in twenty twenty. I think it was an opportunity
for the church to stand up as a whole and
really be there for people when they needed the most,
and at that moment, I think a lot of a
(30:38):
lot of them failed. There were some really good ones
that thrived through it, actually, that did the right things,
and we've seen that. I particularly am proud that I
had go to a church that was there and and
did those things.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
But I think boys.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
That is really Silence equals consent, the sin of omission.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's the name of the book.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
And by the way, he's going to be in town
speaking about all of this. His name's William Federer. Bill
Federer will be in and he's doing an event with
the folks Faith and Freedom Dinner Thursday the twenty six,
that's next week. I believe they close out tickets for
this on money, so you've got to make sure you
get your tickets soon if you want to get them.
Dinner at six point thirty Byron Center. Silence equals consent,
(31:25):
Speak now or forever lose your freedom.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
And he's right on the money about this. One of
the most.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Prolific Christian authors of our time, William Federer's Inside a
Geopolitical World Stage will leave you with a clear understanding
of why Christians must connect our American history to our
faith instrumental in saving our freedoms as well as future generations.
And of course all of the details will put up
on the stack today too, presented by Liberty Pastors the
(31:53):
Kent County Republican Committee. And of course you can get
all of that info, as I said, online today will
get our info up from the Stack, but a fantastic conversation.
I've barely scratched the surface with what you were able
to hear today, thirty forty minutes of a great conversation.
I'm convinced we're going to have more in the future.
I just absolutely love talking to Fascinated by it Bill
(32:15):
Federer and in town next week to twenty six. Details
at the Stack and I'll make sure it gets up
online as well.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yea free for all Friday roll zone.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I got to squeeze in a phone call or too,
so if you want to jump on the phone, we'll
do that. We'll say congratulations to.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
To our winner, the.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Latest in the series of Tucker tickets that might have
been the last payer, Doug Holt in Wyoming. There you go, congratulate.
Somebody knows Doug. Maybe I'll give my heads up saying
Doug I did. I'm free, Todd if you want to
take me with you know, Tucker kn't rock, commented Van Hadel.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
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Rolling through at six one, six, seven, seven, twenty four,
twenty four. Maybe well quick, mom, but the squeeze one
or two calls in Don for.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Barry Counties on the line, Don, good.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Morning, Good morning, Justin. I appreciate you taking my call.
How are you today?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
My pleasure, absolutely fantastic, thanks sir.
Speaker 9 (34:49):
Good good. Hey, I'll be brief.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
You guys were talking about low propensity voters. I'm the
chair of the communications committee with Barry County Republican Party.
Were actually doing a five week ad targeting campaign in
Berry County trying to reach these low propensity voters Christians, hunters,
young people. I've got ads all worked up. I'm willing
(35:11):
to share them with any other Republican Party or any
organization out there that wants access to this stuff. It's
chock full of information, it's bright, colorful, just plastered everywhere
all over Michigan. One point seven million people don't vote,
and if we can get them to turn out, we
can change the direction of this country.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
What how can folks get hold of you? I'll be
careful that I.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Want to say, don't get a phone over out unless
you expect calls.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
No, no, no, they can email me directly. That email is
ub li us. That's Publius BC GOP at gmail dot com.
Speaker 2 (35:52):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
I appreciate it, sir, Thank you. Don I appreciate the
hard work everybody. We've gotta need all hands on deck
for this. I think that's the important takeaway for the selection.
And I think that's a takeaway bills making and everybody else. Look,
we know and the polls are looking good.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
I don't want to.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
I don't want to, you know, sugarcuat it, but I
just I don't want to tell you that the polls
are looking good. But I also gotta be careful about
how I I walk that line, because I only get
you too excited then you want to go out and
do what we gotta do. We've got to have all
hands on debt. At the end of the day, it's
got to be too big to rig. They're pulling out
all the stops. Had a great conversation with Patty McMurray
today that will be up in the podcast. Didn't have
(36:28):
time to play it for you here, but great conversation
with her today on the morning show with Detroit and
and she walks through exactly what's being done.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Uh and the next pigs here.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
She just had an article came out on the on
the I think it was Gateway Punnit today about this.
Just fantastic stuff. Keep an eye on in the meantime
that that site we were talking about earlier, tennex votes
dot com. That's ten x votes dot com. Find ten
friends who don't vote and we win. They always uh
(37:01):
have great ways for us to do this and I
did this a brand new thing that we're working on.
And I got to tell you, I'm very excited for
what's it? What's at stake? All right, folks, gold Back
program coming up next. I will see you Monday, unless
I see you at Tucker Making a great day.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
God bless
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