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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big news in Michigan's auto industry. And again, this is
another story that Trump deserves credit for. We didn't really
get a chance to spend a lot of time on this.
I think this news came out. Yes, you might have
come out after the show was over, but it's news
that deserves to be repeated and reported and loud and clear.
(00:20):
GM now four billion dollar plan to brain manufacturing of
the Cadillac Escalade. I believe it's a Gmcci era and
the Chevrolet Silverado back to the Orient township plans. They're
coming in from other states. Why is that such a
big thing. I've been talking about this. I have been
(00:42):
very concerned about all the manufacturing, all the new infrastructure,
the things that are coming into the United States, and
I say, I just don't I don't want Michigan to
miss out on it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Why is it so important?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, you got the Democrats in the House in Michigan
right now, as we have real fising that we need
to get done and real shifts that need to happen,
we got Democrats in the House right now putting out
bills to change the Michigan Constitution to make it gender neutral. Now,
(01:15):
how high up is that on your list that we've
got to get the Michigan Constitution to be gender neutral
and affirm they've ms and this, that and the others
and all that. That's the most important thing on the
list right now. It's incredible. And meanwhile, this is why
(01:35):
Democrats have had some of the lowest numbers in popularity.
In fact, big alarms. We did this yesterday in the
after show or report from the Hill talking about how
Democrats are losing popularity at record clips.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, this is why people don't care about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know, they care about Are you going to be
able to get me by job back at the plant?
Am I going to be able to keep it? Am
I going to be able to feed by kids? Are
my kids going to be able to have a better
life than me? And particularly here in Michigan as we've seen,
that's been such an issue. But if you're a House Democrat,
(02:12):
guess you don't care about those sort of things. You
care more about pronouns than producing results. That's that's the difference, folks.
Hell more on that and Pat Colbeck joining us after
this don't go anywhere West Michigan Live back after this
(02:42):
strong words yesterday from Pat Colbeck, the former Michigan senator
taking the standard testify essentially in the House Election Integrity
Committee in lancing great questions and that great testimony there
what what.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Did he have to say just among a few of
the subjects.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
One set of records pretty much in the actual and
those all those election records that I was talking about.
And so there's a big narrative that goes on that says,
all you have to do is look at the ballots
and you know whether or not you got a high
integrity election.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
That is a lie from the pit of hell.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
There's a lot of other records that you can You
can count all the ballots you want, but you don't
know if you got a Jason Lemoyne Daniel in the
middle of it that's one hundred and seventy year old,
and you got a question, how the heck did he
get a ballot to cast in the first place?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
All Right, I gotta stop it there, because I thought
that was some of the most aportant There's so many
different things that came out yesterday. Not only did he
urge a full forensic on it, not just recounts to
restore trust, said seventy one percent of Detroit absentee boards
being unbalanced, where ballots didn't total, they didn't they didn't
line up, they didn't total line up with pull books.
(03:54):
So you got to have that transparency for the QVF,
get those things all fixed. Talked about what to do
with the machines. At one point, I thought that was
quite a moment and urged federal investigation. Speaking of which,
there's one particular individual who has broken the law again
and again and again, and I just wonder if she'll
(04:15):
find herselves for herself in the crosshairs during all this.
She says she should be able to run for governor
and oversee her own election.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
We saw how that.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Happened and worked in Arizona and didn't elect the results.
Pat appreciate you taking the time to be here with
us today.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Alwa's good to be with you, justin you know.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Speaking speaking of which, I mentioned this earlier. You've been
on this trail. This isn't a partisan thing for you,
This isn't a Trump issue for you. You've been on
this trail far before the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, actually, dating back to the twenty sixteen election. I
was nominated to serve as vice chair of the election
the Government Reform Committee. As part of that effort, I
went off and converted all of our election processes into
a series of process flow diagrams so I could better
understand it, so when bills came before the committee, I
(05:12):
would understand what the actual impact of that bill would
be on our election system. And it was my staffer,
Penny Crider and her husband Ken that were out in
Detroit during the twenty sixteen recount and they found this
precinct where they had fifty ballots in the battle container,
yet the statement of votes showed that three hundred and
six votes have been cast, and I immediately called for
(05:34):
an investigation to be performed by the Attorney General and
Secretary of State Ruth Johnson did an investigation based on
her best available information at the time, because she didn't
have the authority the Attorney General did, and she identified
thirty one counts of fraud just from looking at the
databases in that twenty sixteen elections. So, of course the
(05:56):
Attorney General, Bill Shooty didn't do anything with it. But
I'm telling you this is uh. This has been around
for a while. We had Catherine Engelbreck ready to come
in and testify back in that timeframe and politics internally
with Republicans.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Particular Senate majority of.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There are on me cough and Senator Dave Robertson, who
is the chair of the Elections Committee, didn't want Catherine
to come in and talk about our problems with our
election system, so we could have fixed it back then.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Isn't that something and and and should have. I mean,
this just goes to show how long this has been
a problem. And you know why, it's it's long overdue. Anyway,
let's talk about today and one of those questions, as
you mentioned, what the feds are up to now, what
President Trump would like to see done. Now we got
executive orders. That's part of the conversation of what took
(06:47):
place yesterday, that are that are underway. That that really
calling the question the way things are run here in
the state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Are we at odds with those executive orders?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, well, we're not at odds from the standpoint that
it's statute, it's in it's But what I called for
yesterday during the investigator is an investigation of whether or
not the State of Michigan's election system actually does comply
with those orders.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And I would submit.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Off the top of my head the Executive Order one
three eight seven three, which talks about making sure that
we don't have components from our adversaries embedded inside critical
infrastructure systems like our election system. You know, on the
face of that, right now, we know that Dominion, through
(07:39):
its own internal emails has over about forty eight percent
of their components for the image cast precincts, which are
in every single precinct in Michigan where we have Dominion
voting systems, forty percent of those components come from China.
And so technically to your question, I mean, no, we're
(07:59):
not and compliance on the face of it right now,
and those those machines, those systems should not even be
operational change the state of Michigan. They shouldn't even be
imported into the state of Michigan if we actually follow
the federal law.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You called for investigations as well. Here, Look, she's been
a judge, multiple judges since Benson has broken the law.
But I'm not seeing Attorney General Dana nessil Ron and
jump and uh and and really do any digging here
with her. Uh don't doesn't seem like we're going to
(08:34):
see that at the state level. Will the Feds jump in.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, let's find out they've got.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I know, I've filed a couple of letters with the
US Attorney of the Eastern District.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Also, we've got.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Action on a letter I submit a formal complaint with
d O j up in DC. So there's a lot
of wheels in motion, if you will, around those topics.
I obviously, during the committee testimony, I tried to highlight
all the investigations that should be ongoing, including the compliance
(09:10):
with those executive orders such as the ones barring components
from foreign adversaries and our critical systems. But I also
called for criminal investigations of John Polis for his perjury
before the Michigan Senate on December fifteen, twenty twenty under oath, which, guys,
it's not just about holding it accountable for what I
(09:33):
believe are blatant falseids. But his testimony formed the basis
of the Michigan Senate report that was put out by
Senator mcbroome and Tye and Bison. And that report, I mean,
I've been at this for over five years since twenty
twenty election. That report that they put out has been
used in pretty much every single legal case regarding the
(09:56):
twenty twenty election as a basis for saying that nothing
happened that was bad in the twenty twenty election. And
so when you realize that the Polish testimony forms the
backbone of the Senate report, and the Senate report forms
a backbone of all these dismissals of cases on the
twenty twenty election, which also ties into all the sanctions
(10:18):
going on to lawyers that put forward evidence of election fraud,
now you start seeing that this is kind of akerplunk stick.
So that's why this investigation into John Polis is so important.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Also in the wake of our submittal of a criminal
complaint to Dana Nessel to investigate John Polis. It was
a fifty one page complaint, she responded in five business
days saying, there's nothing to see here, and we performed
a thorough investigation of your claims and all fifty one
(10:50):
pages of them, mind you, and I believe there's evidence
that suggests that there's wolf from neglective duty there. When
I submitted Foyer requests and follow up the middle of
that complaint and her rebuttal or her response, we found
out that there is no investigative report that was done
for this thorough investigation. We also find out that the
(11:11):
only communication that she had with her inside the Attorney
General office on this was how to respond to the
press regarding this criminal complaint. And then, of course, Joscelyn Benson,
as you mentioned, I mean, she's been found in violation
to have She's been found to have issued unlawful guidance
to our clerks by seven separate courts. That's the chief
(11:32):
election official in the state is routinely giving unlawful guidance
to our election officials. They assume that when they're getting
guidance from the Secretary of State that it's in accordance
with the law, and it's not. As a matter of fact,
during the testimony yesterday, I showed a clip from Joscelyn
Benson's own attorney testifying the fact that she only follows
the laws that she likes and for if you don't
(11:55):
like that, you can go ahead and sue her. Well,
that's what we've had to do, and that's where those
seven court decisions came from. We've been forced to sewer
for not following the laws. So there's a her wrap
sheet is longer than all the rest of them. And
then and in order to stop what I believe, in
order to stop the flow of loss she had in
(12:16):
the courts, she decided to improve her odds a little
bit by providing an eighty two dollars donation quote unquote
to Justice Kyra Bolden on the Michigan Supreme Court, who,
months after receiving that donation, issued the majority opinion in
favor of Jocelyn Benson after Benson had lost unanimously in
(12:39):
the lower court. And so that's bribery. From my perspective,
it walks like a duck, talks like a dock. It's
a duck, and this case it certainly looks like it
was bribery. So yeah, there's a lot of investigations that
I would like to see kicked off, and the Michigan
House has a lot of authority to get movement on
those investigations, and should they seek to request.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Them, you know, Bett, it just goes back to dolls
all of this, you know, twenty twenty, when I really
took a look.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
At this, I think a lot of us did.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I just I came away with this. I don't
care what anybody says. My main standpoint is there should
never even be an appearance of impropriety in our elections
and the fact that that remains is the biggest So
for me, my question is how do we restore and
(13:31):
repair and can we do Do you believe that we
can do that in a way that not just Republicans
but also democratic everyone everyone could say this is you
know what, we have a system that works here.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
My one word solution and this is what the focus
of my testimony yesterday was was on transparency. I mean,
if you are so confident that you're conducting the elections
with accuracy and integrity, then put all your cards face up.
And that's not what's been happening under Jocelyn Benson. She's
been doing everything she can to prevent access to information
(14:10):
that would expose her malfeasans. And I'll tell you every
time we, you know, get over the target and highlight
the malfeasans, she goes off and restricts the access to
that information every single time. And I called it a
game of three card money she's trying to pull on the.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Citizens of Michigan.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Here's she's Paulman the Queen, and it's now we're in
the in the in the deck that she's actually going
to allow you to go off and see and so
it's really it's about time she gets exposed. And the
way to go off and address this is to demand
transparency on the conduct of our elections.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Pat Coldback former Michigan State Senator, and he is in
the fight on election integrity leg down other Pat and no.
Folks can download your presentation and propose rules for electri
on voting.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You've got them up online the.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Website ISMI Grassroots Alliance dot org will make sure that
that makes it into the stack today as well. Anything
else that folks want to keep in mind her maybe
some previews of what you have still yet to come.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I think it's important that everybody understand that we're asking
for additional subpoenas. And I also want to give kudos
to the Michigan House that we have right now. Sometimes
they just get beaten up left and right for not
doing what we want them to go off and do.
But I'll tell you we got an excellent group in
the Michigan House, particularly and the Republican side of the
fence under Speaker Matt Hall and under a representative Jada
(15:38):
Boyer in the Michigan Oversight Committee. He has permanent subpoena
authority and Representative Rachelle Smitt has been fantastic. She's got
a strategy and how to expose these guys going forward,
and she's chairing the Election Integrity Commission, and so it's
a good group of people. Give them support, please, And
it's not an easy job. I know first and for
(16:00):
my eight years in the Michigan Senate, and these guys
are actually doing some really good work. And up in
d C, everybody's looking for hope whatever. I can tell
you that there are very very good things happening in
DC on our behalf regarding election fraud. And the President
Trump has a picture of his mug shot outside the
Oval office as a reminder that these guys will not
(16:22):
stop at anything to go off and try to silence
our voices. And we need to fight back in the
courts of law while they go off and do all
these stupid little riots and everything on the outside and
throw bricks at ice agents. We have to take the
high road, and we've got the ability now to take
that high road in the justice system with the friends
(16:43):
that we have.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Up in d C. So have hope, everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
It's the wheels are definitely in motion.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Pat callback, former Michigan State Cenator election integrity warrior, continuing
the fight. We thank you for all you do. Pat,
thank you so much for taking the time and let
us update. Come back when you got more are We
love to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
All right? Sounds great, my friend knocking alive
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You too, God bless Yeah more
Big news in Michigan's auto industry. And again, this is
another story that Trump deserves credit for. We didn't really
get a chance to spend a lot of time on this.
I think this news came out. Yes, you might have
come out after the show was over, but it's news
that deserves to be repeated and reported and loud and clear.
(00:20):
GM now four billion dollar plan to brain manufacturing of
the Cadillac Escalade. I believe it's a Gmcci era and
the Chevrolet Silverado back to the Orient township plans. They're
coming in from other states. Why is that such a
big thing. I've been talking about this. I have been
(00:42):
very concerned about all the manufacturing, all the new infrastructure,
the things that are coming into the United States, and
I say, I just don't I don't want Michigan to
miss out on it.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Why is it so important?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Well, you got the Democrats in the House in Michigan
right now, as we have real fising that we need
to get done and real shifts that need to happen,
we got Democrats in the House right now putting out
bills to change the Michigan Constitution to make it gender neutral. Now,
(01:15):
how high up is that on your list that we've
got to get the Michigan Constitution to be gender neutral
and affirm they've ms and this, that and the others
and all that. That's the most important thing on the
list right now. It's incredible. And meanwhile, this is why
(01:35):
Democrats have had some of the lowest numbers in popularity.
In fact, big alarms. We did this yesterday in the
after show or report from the Hill talking about how
Democrats are losing popularity at record clips.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, this is why people don't care about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
You know, they care about Are you going to be
able to get me by job back at the plant?
Am I going to be able to keep it? Am
I going to be able to feed by kids? Are
my kids going to be able to have a better
life than me? And particularly here in Michigan as we've seen,
that's been such an issue. But if you're a House Democrat,
(02:12):
guess you don't care about those sort of things. You
care more about pronouns than producing results. That's that's the difference, folks.
Hell more on that and Pat Colbeck joining us after
this don't go anywhere West Michigan Live back after this
(02:42):
strong words yesterday from Pat Colbeck, the former Michigan senator
taking the standard testify essentially in the House Election Integrity
Committee in lancing great questions and that great testimony there
what what.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Did he have to say just among a few of
the subjects.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
One set of records pretty much in the actual and
those all those election records that I was talking about.
And so there's a big narrative that goes on that says,
all you have to do is look at the ballots
and you know whether or not you got a high
integrity election.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
That is a lie from the pit of hell.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
There's a lot of other records that you can You
can count all the ballots you want, but you don't
know if you got a Jason Lemoyne Daniel in the
middle of it that's one hundred and seventy year old,
and you got a question, how the heck did he
get a ballot to cast in the first place?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
All Right, I gotta stop it there, because I thought
that was some of the most aportant There's so many
different things that came out yesterday. Not only did he
urge a full forensic on it, not just recounts to
restore trust, said seventy one percent of Detroit absentee boards
being unbalanced, where ballots didn't total, they didn't they didn't
line up, they didn't total line up with pull books.
(03:54):
So you got to have that transparency for the QVF,
get those things all fixed. Talked about what to do
with the machines. At one point, I thought that was
quite a moment and urged federal investigation. Speaking of which,
there's one particular individual who has broken the law again
and again and again, and I just wonder if she'll
(04:15):
find herselves for herself in the crosshairs during all this.
She says she should be able to run for governor
and oversee her own election.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
We saw how that.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Happened and worked in Arizona and didn't elect the results.
Pat appreciate you taking the time to be here with
us today.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Alwa's good to be with you, justin you know.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Speaking speaking of which, I mentioned this earlier. You've been
on this trail. This isn't a partisan thing for you,
This isn't a Trump issue for you. You've been on
this trail far before the twenty twenty election.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, actually, dating back to the twenty sixteen election. I
was nominated to serve as vice chair of the election
the Government Reform Committee. As part of that effort, I
went off and converted all of our election processes into
a series of process flow diagrams so I could better
understand it, so when bills came before the committee, I
(05:12):
would understand what the actual impact of that bill would
be on our election system. And it was my staffer,
Penny Crider and her husband Ken that were out in
Detroit during the twenty sixteen recount and they found this
precinct where they had fifty ballots in the battle container,
yet the statement of votes showed that three hundred and
six votes have been cast, and I immediately called for
(05:34):
an investigation to be performed by the Attorney General and
Secretary of State Ruth Johnson did an investigation based on
her best available information at the time, because she didn't
have the authority the Attorney General did, and she identified
thirty one counts of fraud just from looking at the
databases in that twenty sixteen elections. So, of course the
(05:56):
Attorney General, Bill Shooty didn't do anything with it. But
I'm telling you this is uh. This has been around
for a while. We had Catherine Engelbreck ready to come
in and testify back in that timeframe and politics internally
with Republicans.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Particular Senate majority of.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
There are on me cough and Senator Dave Robertson, who
is the chair of the Elections Committee, didn't want Catherine
to come in and talk about our problems with our
election system, so we could have fixed it back then.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Isn't that something and and and should have. I mean,
this just goes to show how long this has been
a problem. And you know why, it's it's long overdue. Anyway,
let's talk about today and one of those questions, as
you mentioned, what the feds are up to now, what
President Trump would like to see done. Now we got
executive orders. That's part of the conversation of what took
(06:47):
place yesterday, that are that are underway. That that really
calling the question the way things are run here in
the state of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Are we at odds with those executive orders?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
No, well, we're not at odds from the standpoint that
it's statute, it's in it's But what I called for
yesterday during the investigator is an investigation of whether or
not the State of Michigan's election system actually does comply
with those orders.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
And I would submit.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Off the top of my head the Executive Order one
three eight seven three, which talks about making sure that
we don't have components from our adversaries embedded inside critical
infrastructure systems like our election system. You know, on the
face of that, right now, we know that Dominion, through
(07:39):
its own internal emails has over about forty eight percent
of their components for the image cast precincts, which are
in every single precinct in Michigan where we have Dominion
voting systems, forty percent of those components come from China.
And so technically to your question, I mean, no, we're
(07:59):
not and compliance on the face of it right now,
and those those machines, those systems should not even be
operational change the state of Michigan. They shouldn't even be
imported into the state of Michigan if we actually follow
the federal law.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
You called for investigations as well. Here, Look, she's been
a judge, multiple judges since Benson has broken the law.
But I'm not seeing Attorney General Dana nessil Ron and
jump and uh and and really do any digging here
with her. Uh don't doesn't seem like we're going to
(08:34):
see that at the state level. Will the Feds jump in.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well, let's find out they've got.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I know, I've filed a couple of letters with the
US Attorney of the Eastern District.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Also, we've got.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Action on a letter I submit a formal complaint with
d O j up in DC. So there's a lot
of wheels in motion, if you will, around those topics.
I obviously, during the committee testimony, I tried to highlight
all the investigations that should be ongoing, including the compliance
(09:10):
with those executive orders such as the ones barring components
from foreign adversaries and our critical systems. But I also
called for criminal investigations of John Polis for his perjury
before the Michigan Senate on December fifteen, twenty twenty under oath, which, guys,
it's not just about holding it accountable for what I
(09:33):
believe are blatant falseids. But his testimony formed the basis
of the Michigan Senate report that was put out by
Senator mcbroome and Tye and Bison. And that report, I mean,
I've been at this for over five years since twenty
twenty election. That report that they put out has been
used in pretty much every single legal case regarding the
(09:56):
twenty twenty election as a basis for saying that nothing
happened that was bad in the twenty twenty election. And
so when you realize that the Polish testimony forms the
backbone of the Senate report, and the Senate report forms
a backbone of all these dismissals of cases on the
twenty twenty election, which also ties into all the sanctions
(10:18):
going on to lawyers that put forward evidence of election fraud,
now you start seeing that this is kind of akerplunk stick.
So that's why this investigation into John Polis is so important.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Also in the wake of our submittal of a criminal
complaint to Dana Nessel to investigate John Polis. It was
a fifty one page complaint, she responded in five business
days saying, there's nothing to see here, and we performed
a thorough investigation of your claims and all fifty one
(10:50):
pages of them, mind you, and I believe there's evidence
that suggests that there's wolf from neglective duty there. When
I submitted Foyer requests and follow up the middle of
that complaint and her rebuttal or her response, we found
out that there is no investigative report that was done
for this thorough investigation. We also find out that the
(11:11):
only communication that she had with her inside the Attorney
General office on this was how to respond to the
press regarding this criminal complaint. And then, of course, Joscelyn Benson,
as you mentioned, I mean, she's been found in violation
to have She's been found to have issued unlawful guidance
to our clerks by seven separate courts. That's the chief
(11:32):
election official in the state is routinely giving unlawful guidance
to our election officials. They assume that when they're getting
guidance from the Secretary of State that it's in accordance
with the law, and it's not. As a matter of fact,
during the testimony yesterday, I showed a clip from Joscelyn
Benson's own attorney testifying the fact that she only follows
the laws that she likes and for if you don't
(11:55):
like that, you can go ahead and sue her. Well,
that's what we've had to do, and that's where those
seven court decisions came from. We've been forced to sewer
for not following the laws. So there's a her wrap
sheet is longer than all the rest of them. And
then and in order to stop what I believe, in
order to stop the flow of loss she had in
(12:16):
the courts, she decided to improve her odds a little
bit by providing an eighty two dollars donation quote unquote
to Justice Kyra Bolden on the Michigan Supreme Court, who,
months after receiving that donation, issued the majority opinion in
favor of Jocelyn Benson after Benson had lost unanimously in
(12:39):
the lower court. And so that's bribery. From my perspective,
it walks like a duck, talks like a dock. It's
a duck, and this case it certainly looks like it
was bribery. So yeah, there's a lot of investigations that
I would like to see kicked off, and the Michigan
House has a lot of authority to get movement on
those investigations, and should they seek to request.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Them, you know, Bett, it just goes back to dolls
all of this, you know, twenty twenty, when I really
took a look.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
At this, I think a lot of us did.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
And I just I came away with this. I don't
care what anybody says. My main standpoint is there should
never even be an appearance of impropriety in our elections
and the fact that that remains is the biggest So
for me, my question is how do we restore and
(13:31):
repair and can we do Do you believe that we
can do that in a way that not just Republicans
but also democratic everyone everyone could say this is you
know what, we have a system that works here.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
My one word solution and this is what the focus
of my testimony yesterday was was on transparency. I mean,
if you are so confident that you're conducting the elections
with accuracy and integrity, then put all your cards face up.
And that's not what's been happening under Jocelyn Benson. She's
been doing everything she can to prevent access to information
(14:10):
that would expose her malfeasans. And I'll tell you every
time we, you know, get over the target and highlight
the malfeasans, she goes off and restricts the access to
that information every single time. And I called it a
game of three card money she's trying to pull on the.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Citizens of Michigan.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Here's she's Paulman the Queen, and it's now we're in
the in the in the deck that she's actually going
to allow you to go off and see and so
it's really it's about time she gets exposed. And the
way to go off and address this is to demand
transparency on the conduct of our elections.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Pat Coldback former Michigan State Senator, and he is in
the fight on election integrity leg down other Pat and no.
Folks can download your presentation and propose rules for electri
on voting.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
You've got them up online the.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Website ISMI Grassroots Alliance dot org will make sure that
that makes it into the stack today as well. Anything
else that folks want to keep in mind her maybe
some previews of what you have still yet to come.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Well.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
I think it's important that everybody understand that we're asking
for additional subpoenas. And I also want to give kudos
to the Michigan House that we have right now. Sometimes
they just get beaten up left and right for not
doing what we want them to go off and do.
But I'll tell you we got an excellent group in
the Michigan House, particularly and the Republican side of the
fence under Speaker Matt Hall and under a representative Jada
(15:38):
Boyer in the Michigan Oversight Committee. He has permanent subpoena
authority and Representative Rachelle Smitt has been fantastic. She's got
a strategy and how to expose these guys going forward,
and she's chairing the Election Integrity Commission, and so it's
a good group of people. Give them support, please, And
it's not an easy job. I know first and for
(16:00):
my eight years in the Michigan Senate, and these guys
are actually doing some really good work. And up in
d C, everybody's looking for hope whatever. I can tell
you that there are very very good things happening in
DC on our behalf regarding election fraud. And the President
Trump has a picture of his mug shot outside the
Oval office as a reminder that these guys will not
(16:22):
stop at anything to go off and try to silence
our voices. And we need to fight back in the
courts of law while they go off and do all
these stupid little riots and everything on the outside and
throw bricks at ice agents. We have to take the
high road, and we've got the ability now to take
that high road in the justice system with the friends
(16:43):
that we have.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Up in d C. So have hope, everybody.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
It's the wheels are definitely in motion.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Pat callback, former Michigan State Cenator election integrity warrior, continuing
the fight. We thank you for all you do. Pat,
thank you so much for taking the time and let
us update. Come back when you got more are We
love to hear from you.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
All right? Sounds great, my friend knocking alive
Speaker 2 (17:03):
You too, God bless Yeah more
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