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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's get the latest on the shutdown, and of course
I call it the Schumer shutdown because that's exactly what
we're watching. Let's get to details straight from inside all
of it, maybe even some news that you haven't heard yet. Cheer.
Lisa McClain joins us right now live from Washington. Chair,
thank you so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thanks for having me different than Hillary Skulton. Really, I
am not on vacation. I really am working, and I
really am in Washington. But don't let the facts get
in the away. A good story, Hillary.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know that is so interesting. We say that she
got buzzed the other day and she said, I can't
believe they're not working. And she was sitting in her
in her living room here back in West Michigan. What
is all that?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It is interesting you are working. Lots of folks still
trying to continue to hammer some things out here. Let's
just set the table for folks. So again, we know
we're in this shutdown, and it's hard sometimes to walk
this out because I'm one end.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sure An there's some folks who say, hey, let it
shut down. We kind of like this in some ways.
You see folks who are are you know, these are
people that are going to be going without paychecks or
some of them. You know that we we we really
want to make sure we're taken care of, you know.
I saw Congressman Heisinger had that bill that he wanted
to make sure some of those folks got taken care of.
He's very concerned about that as well. And but at
(01:25):
the same time I watched I think I haven't felt
anything yet. Now I don't know. I've got a friend
who's going, in fact, he's flying next week, is going
to DC. He's going to take a tour of a
couple of places. He said he's never been. I said,
I don't know that this is the time to go.
But so you may have some shutdowns museums and things
like that. We've got the Ford Museum shut down here
(01:45):
in Grand Rapids. But it's kind of a back and
forth on this. At the end of the day. That
people need to understand, is any pain, any issues that
you're feeling, or any uncomfort. Really it's coming because of
Schumer and there in the shot then he won't budge.
I don't understand. We're not seeing this in the media.
A lot of times people just miss it, but it is.
(02:08):
It's the fact that they wanted to shove in after
you all took it out with the one big, beautiful bill,
this funding of healthcare for illegal aliens. Am I missing
something here?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, you're not missing anything. That's exactly what's happening. The
one piece that I really want to hammer home that
I think will help is typically when you do a CR,
the party that's in charge puts a bunch of policy
partisan policy writers on that CR. You know, we put
through funding projects. So for example, where the Republicans were
(02:40):
in charge, what we normally would do was put policy
writers in there that are very partisan and fund a
bunch of our of our priorities. What Republicans did this
time as said, listen, we're not going to play any games,
We're not going to use any gimmicks. We are going
to pass the exact same CR funding levels that the
(03:03):
Democrats put in place number one and number two, that
the ones that the Democrats voted for for thirteen times prior.
So no gimmicks, no nothing. So there's really nothing even
to negotiate in that R because it's the exact same
CR that you voted for in March.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's why we call it a clean cr.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So when the Rats say, oh, we want to negotiate,
there's nothing to negotiate because we didn't put any policy
writers in there.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So if it was good enough form in March, why
all of a sudden is it not good enough now?
I mean, is the dirty secret they're using this type
of thing to raise money fundrais and things like.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That, And no, I don't think that's it. Well, if
that may be part of it, I don't know. Here's
the real truth. The Democratic Party right now isn't the
Democratic Party of your mom and dad or grandma and grandpa.
These are the problem with the Democrat Party right now
is they are beating controlled. Schumer is being controlled by
the radical left wing of his parties, the aocs, the Mundami's,
(04:06):
you know, the Rashida ta lebs, the radical socialists of
the Democratic Party, and quite frankly, Chuck Schumer is shaken
in his boots because he doesn't want to get primaried
by AOC.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's self preservation. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Why the Democrats don't want to vote to open the
government up right now. It's a clean cr they voted
for it thirteen times.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That is such a fantastic point and one that I
guess I didn't consider it completely because you're right, they
have been completely pulled far to the left. And you're right.
You know what's happened a lot of these people, in
fact we've seen it through the years is President Trump's
been running. A lot of these people were Democrats and
they said, look, I didn't leave the party of the
party left me, and they end up voting for President
Trump and Republicans.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean they are complete black and rules on the
I mean, you see it in New York right. Look
at these democratic run cities. Look at the lack of
law and order. I mean, it's the craziest thing you've
ever seen. But the problem is, if you're a moderate Democrat,
if you are a normal Democrat, you're shaken in your
boots right now because you know, if you buck the
(05:12):
radical left wing of that party. I mean, they're going
to crush you in social media, they're going to primary you,
and you're going to be out of a job.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's why that's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Why you see everyone silent right now, because they're shaken
in their boots from the radical left.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's a comment from the chat right now, Ruth says,
I heard Schumer is all for the shutdown because with
Mom Donnie's popularity in New York City, he's realized that
he's lost his base in New York City. According to
what you just said, it's very true. She says, he's
all for the shutdown to hold on to power as
long as he can. And how sad that that's what
hasks me. That's what happened. So what what are you hearing?
(05:46):
As far as you know, another president wants to get
things back on track, but he's also prepared to do
what needs to be done. What are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, listen, the Republicans, we did our job, we voted yes,
and anything that happens is solely on the hands of
the Democrats. Right now, what I'm hearing is, listen, we're
willing to talk to negotiate, but you got to be
a little bit reasonable, right and right now, the radical
left they're not reasonable. And if you think we're going
(06:17):
to negotiate on unreasonable terms, you're gravely mistaken. We don't
need to. And let me share with you why we
don't need to. Other than being right, let's take a
look at the facts. So I did a poll at
the beginning of the shutdown, like where everyone was, and
to be honest with you, both sides are getting some
blame for it, right, but Democrats were getting the blame
(06:39):
and they were six points up in the blame game.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Today we did another poll as of yesterday, the results
came back. Democrats went from getting a six point to
ten points. So the trend is people are blaming the
Democrats even more for the shutdown. That's not going to
bode well for them. So listen, we want to get
the gup open. We want to govern. We passed twelve
appropriation bills out of committee, three off the floor.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We've done our job.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The Democrats, especially the progressive wing of the Democrats, don't
want regular order.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
We do.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So let's get back to holding the American stop holding
the American people hostage and get back to regular order
and let's work for the American people.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Simple, Chairwoman, Lisa McClain. And you know the most interesting
thing about this is you make that final point there
is that this cr is only just for the next few.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Weeks weeks, well a few weeks now.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, it's it's we're not talking about a long time.
We're talking about a very short time, just to keep
things moving so that you can continue conversations. I don't
think it's ever been more clear the Schumer shutdown. Thank
you for updating us. We would love to continue to
talk with you. If you have more details in the
in the coming days. We're the welcome to come back.
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I appreciate it. Have a good day, stay warmed there. Goodness, gracious,
I beg you.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I think it's gonna be. We're gonna get to like
sixty something today, so it's not too right.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
All right, it's fall.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We're used to it, you know, we'll take it. Thank
you so much. Good luck today in the swamp with
the rain and everything else there. Thank you so much.
Let's get the latest on the shutdown, and of course
I call it the Schumer shutdown because that's exactly what
we're watching. Let's get to details straight from inside all
of it, maybe even some news that you haven't heard yet. Cheer.
Lisa McClain joins us right now live from Washington. Chair,
thank you so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Thanks for having me different than Hillary Skulton. Really, I
am not on vacation. I really am working, and I
really am in Washington. But don't let the facts get
in the away. A good story, Hillary.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know that is so interesting. We say that she
got buzzed the other day and she said, I can't
believe they're not working. And she was sitting in her
in her living room here back in West Michigan. What
is all that?
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
It is interesting you are working. Lots of folks still
trying to continue to hammer some things out here. Let's
just set the table for folks. So again, we know
we're in this shutdown, and it's hard sometimes to walk
this out because I'm one end.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
You know.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Sure An there's some folks who say, hey, let it
shut down. We kind of like this in some ways.
You see folks who are are you know, these are
people that are going to be going without paychecks or
some of them. You know that we we we really
want to make sure we're taken care of, you know.
I saw Congressman Heisinger had that bill that he wanted
to make sure some of those folks got taken care of.
He's very concerned about that as well. And but at
(01:25):
the same time I watched I think I haven't felt
anything yet. Now I don't know. I've got a friend
who's going, in fact, he's flying next week, is going
to DC. He's going to take a tour of a
couple of places. He said he's never been. I said,
I don't know that this is the time to go.
But so you may have some shutdowns museums and things
like that. We've got the Ford Museum shut down here
(01:45):
in Grand Rapids. But it's kind of a back and
forth on this. At the end of the day. That
people need to understand, is any pain, any issues that
you're feeling, or any uncomfort. Really it's coming because of
Schumer and there in the shot then he won't budge.
I don't understand. We're not seeing this in the media.
A lot of times people just miss it, but it is.
(02:08):
It's the fact that they wanted to shove in after
you all took it out with the one big, beautiful bill,
this funding of healthcare for illegal aliens. Am I missing
something here?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
No, you're not missing anything. That's exactly what's happening. The
one piece that I really want to hammer home that
I think will help is typically when you do a CR,
the party that's in charge puts a bunch of policy
partisan policy writers on that CR. You know, we put
through funding projects. So for example, where the Republicans were
(02:40):
in charge, what we normally would do was put policy
writers in there that are very partisan and fund a
bunch of our of our priorities. What Republicans did this
time as said, listen, we're not going to play any games,
We're not going to use any gimmicks. We are going
to pass the exact same CR funding levels that the
(03:03):
Democrats put in place number one and number two, that
the ones that the Democrats voted for for thirteen times prior.
So no gimmicks, no nothing. So there's really nothing even
to negotiate in that R because it's the exact same
CR that you voted for in March.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
That's why we call it a clean cr.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
So when the Rats say, oh, we want to negotiate,
there's nothing to negotiate because we didn't put any policy
writers in there.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
So if it was good enough form in March, why
all of a sudden is it not good enough now?
I mean, is the dirty secret they're using this type
of thing to raise money fundrais and things like.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
That, And no, I don't think that's it. Well, if
that may be part of it, I don't know. Here's
the real truth. The Democratic Party right now isn't the
Democratic Party of your mom and dad or grandma and grandpa.
These are the problem with the Democrat Party right now
is they are beating controlled. Schumer is being controlled by
the radical left wing of his parties, the aocs, the Mundami's,
(04:06):
you know, the Rashida ta lebs, the radical socialists of
the Democratic Party, and quite frankly, Chuck Schumer is shaken
in his boots because he doesn't want to get primaried
by AOC.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
It's self preservation. That's the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Why the Democrats don't want to vote to open the
government up right now. It's a clean cr they voted
for it thirteen times.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
That is such a fantastic point and one that I
guess I didn't consider it completely because you're right, they
have been completely pulled far to the left. And you're right.
You know what's happened a lot of these people, in
fact we've seen it through the years is President Trump's
been running. A lot of these people were Democrats and
they said, look, I didn't leave the party of the
party left me, and they end up voting for President
Trump and Republicans.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I mean they are complete black and rules on the
I mean, you see it in New York right. Look
at these democratic run cities. Look at the lack of
law and order. I mean, it's the craziest thing you've
ever seen. But the problem is, if you're a moderate Democrat,
if you are a normal Democrat, you're shaken in your
boots right now because you know, if you buck the
(05:12):
radical left wing of that party. I mean, they're going
to crush you in social media, they're going to primary you,
and you're going to be out of a job.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That's why that's.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Why you see everyone silent right now, because they're shaken
in their boots from the radical left.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
It's a comment from the chat right now, Ruth says,
I heard Schumer is all for the shutdown because with
Mom Donnie's popularity in New York City, he's realized that
he's lost his base in New York City. According to
what you just said, it's very true. She says, he's
all for the shutdown to hold on to power as
long as he can. And how sad that that's what
hasks me. That's what happened. So what what are you hearing?
(05:46):
As far as you know, another president wants to get
things back on track, but he's also prepared to do
what needs to be done. What are you hearing?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, listen, the Republicans, we did our job, we voted yes,
and anything that happens is solely on the hands of
the Democrats. Right now, what I'm hearing is, listen, we're
willing to talk to negotiate, but you got to be
a little bit reasonable, right and right now, the radical
left they're not reasonable. And if you think we're going
(06:17):
to negotiate on unreasonable terms, you're gravely mistaken. We don't
need to. And let me share with you why we
don't need to. Other than being right, let's take a
look at the facts. So I did a poll at
the beginning of the shutdown, like where everyone was, and
to be honest with you, both sides are getting some
blame for it, right, but Democrats were getting the blame
(06:39):
and they were six points up in the blame game.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Right now.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Today we did another poll as of yesterday, the results
came back. Democrats went from getting a six point to
ten points. So the trend is people are blaming the
Democrats even more for the shutdown. That's not going to
bode well for them. So listen, we want to get
the gup open. We want to govern. We passed twelve
appropriation bills out of committee, three off the floor.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
We've done our job.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
The Democrats, especially the progressive wing of the Democrats, don't
want regular order.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
We do.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
So let's get back to holding the American stop holding
the American people hostage and get back to regular order
and let's work for the American people.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I mean, it's.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Simple, Chairwoman, Lisa McClain. And you know the most interesting
thing about this is you make that final point there
is that this cr is only just for the next few.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Weeks weeks, well a few weeks now.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, it's it's we're not talking about a long time.
We're talking about a very short time, just to keep
things moving so that you can continue conversations. I don't
think it's ever been more clear the Schumer shutdown. Thank
you for updating us. We would love to continue to
talk with you. If you have more details in the
in the coming days. We're the welcome to come back.
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
I appreciate it. Have a good day, stay warmed there. Goodness, gracious,
I beg you.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
I think it's gonna be. We're gonna get to like
sixty something today, so it's not too right.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
All right, it's fall.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
We're used to it, you know, we'll take it. Thank
you so much. Good luck today in the swamp with
the rain and everything else there. Thank you so much.
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