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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tack into the latest in tech and how it affects
you and your world.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
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these big stories today.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Trent, welcome in, appreciate you being here with us today.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
YEA good morning, Justin.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Absolutely, let's get into it. Probably.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I think one of the most interesting stories is how
the Wall Street Journal writing about this brand new tech
that could be it's by the way it changes like
instantaneously whenever they want it to pricing at the grocery store.
And what's wild about this is it could say one
thing on the shelf, when you pick the item up,
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and by the time you get to the register, the
price is changed. Walk us through this latest price is
changing up to one hundred times a day at this
grocery store.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Yeah, Justin, this is a crazy story.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
This is the first time I've heard of this, and
I know the technology is there. It's actually fairly easy
to do to have a digital display, right, these are
very inexpensive to constantly change the pricing, and they're doing
this basic on supplying demand, inventory levels, market prices at
the end of the day. Justin grocery stores typically produce
things well in advance, sometimes that even have very long
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contracted pricing on these things.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
So the fact that they need to.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Change these daily, potentially even by the minute, really feels
like just some kind of a scam or some kind
of a way to gain advantage of people based on
their stocking levels, to gain an advantage on people versus
the actual cost to purchase these items, you know, kind
of live That's typically not how it works. Every time
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we see a gas station, you know, signed justin, it
typically doesn't end well. Usually what happens is you pay
more than the advertised price at the point of sale.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, that's I mean to me, it's just it's it's
kind of like, I don't know, it's like in your face,
it's kind of blatant. I understand why they might want
to do this at certain points, but this, to me
is technology that it just feels like consumers might push
back against.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Yeah, I think you're right justin I think it just
kind of turns off people, right and one hand, you know,
as far as pricing goods and stuff, there's a huge
amount of time and resources spent pricing goods, So I
get it like this could be a time saver and
a convenient thing for larger stores to roll out price
changes and keep things up to date, but to actually
have them changed on the daily when, like I said,
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the business model typically doesn't revolve around minute price changes,
you know, by the minute, when these things are often
purchased months in advance, so they know their.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Cost these items. Is why this is, this is very
over the top. If they're going to do live changes.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, and you know, look, I mean I think what
the fear is here, and the way I've heard that
they're going to put this out there is is that
you know that they would have during slower times of
the day they would maybe lower their prices, but in
times that you know, most folks need to get out
and I would say, like after work or you know,
when they have more traffic, that they would then raise
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their prices. And to me, that's just sort of taking
advantage of the consumer.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
I just I know they're free to do what they
want to do, but we're also free to shop wherever
we want.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Yeah, justin I think that's crazy to use that as
a tool to, like I said, affect the supply and
demand the times that day, stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I mean, some people can't help it. They work all day.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
They got to go get their groceries at five o'clock
five three and the way home from work when everybody
else is they going to get penalized because they work
all day and they have to get their groceries on
it it's busier. They already getting punished with the parking
lot walking and the long lines and the business. You're
going to punish more to try to incentivize them the
come at a different time if they just can't help it already.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Next story is wild as well. She's paralyzed, this woman,
but Neurallink is giving her an a lease on life.
She's able to do some things she wasn't able to
do for years. Audrey Cruz has been paralyzed since she
was in a car accident at the age of sixteen.
Now she's able to sort of write her name, here
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using a purple colored pin on the computer screen, Audrey
wrote her first name for the first time in two
thousand and five. It's a little better than what maybe
my four year old could do right now.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But this is.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Technology that I think is for a lot of people
sort of scary when you think about the neuralink stuff,
but also has tremendous upside to it.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, Jess, So there's two sides of this story. I mean,
we all use a computer every day.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
We use our hands to move a mouse, a keyboard,
and some voice control. This person cannot do that, and
so this neuralink chip literally just gives them an extension
of their arm, so to speak.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
In this case, is the extension of their.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Brain to physically control a computer through mental brain waves,
brain signals, motor skills like you would move your hands.
So there's nothing creepy, hokey crazy about that aspect of it.
And it's a game changer because if you can control
a computer with your brain, you could drive a car
because the cars are more electrified with.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Their control systems. You could do amazing things.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
This is a huge game changer for people that have
these type of paralyzed or other motor scale issues. On
the other hand, this also allows a further heavier integration
to computers. You know, if we think of a mouse
and a keyboard, we feel that, hey, we can turn
it off, we can unplug it, we cannot touch it, right.
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But the more the more integrated we get with neurallink
type technology, where the computer is starting to read signals
from our brains and start to suggest things to communicate
with our brains in a way that's not easy for
us just to say no, I'm not touching the keyboard.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I'm walking away from my desk. That's where it gets challenging.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
And we're not in that territory yet, but we can
all see that in the future with improvements, that could
be the case.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, I don't just think about being plugged in twenty
four to seven, and it's a lot of people talking
about they'd want to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It'd be an advantage.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
You know, if you were plugged in twenty four seven,
you always plugged into HEYI or whatever, you'd have like
a superhuman advantage over people, not just folks that have
real issues that need help.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
But I wonder what the cost of that is too.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
You know, we got a story out Today, Americans spend
nearly half their day online. The New York posted, there's
a shocking story. I don't know if I'm shocked by
that or not, but it's a lot of time, and
I just recently have found myself sort of trying to
decrease my screen time every Sunday night or morning.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Rather, I think I get some sort of you.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Know, notification that says, this is how much time you
spend online this week.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Or whatever, And I'm.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Trying to decrease it, and The're trying to put the
phone down even more as I reach over and look
at it today. Did I get another notification over there?
What's going on anyway, Trent? Are you surprised by this?
And should we be worried? I think this is having
a big effect on things like our attention and other things.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Yeah, justin it's actually hard to study this topic like this,
this report. I'm surprised it's not much higher because people
don't realize that the amount of time we spend an
Internet connected things.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
Let's just say.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
We're not on our phone, but we're still listening for
that alert. We're still thinking about the next message or
the next thing that comes in that we want to
respond to you, or want to do or want to post.
So it's very difficult to study this. We spend an
enormous amount of time online and we are not built.
We are not designed, we are not meant for that.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
As human beings.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
You could say that about anything, whether it's food, whether
it's exercise, whatever. Moderation is key. We will ruin ourselves
in some specific way if we don't exercise the common
sense moderation. And that's something with this online stuff. There's
going to be studies and all sorts of stuff saying
this common sense. If you're going to spend half of
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your life online, it's going to mess up your brain.
It's going to change how you're wired, and that's not
going to be a good thing for your health, your relationships,
for all those things. And somehow there needs to be
a balance, and a lot of times it means.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Turn it off.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
And the Internet, with all its greatness, and AI doesn't
like to tell us those things.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
It says more and more and more.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Sometimes I just think less is more, and I think
in this scenario that's probably the case as well. FBI
warning now by the way that an app could wipe
out your entire bank account. This story probably the most
important and I think the most immediate importance of the day,
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because this is something you're facing right now, and these
are always issues. I know you're staying on top of, Trent,
but the latest on this story is kind of wild.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, justin.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
The FBI has been warning about this for years, and
what's happening is scammers are getting more sophisticated, and that
doesn't mean more high tech. Sometimes that means low tech
preying on us as normal people. So what they'll do
is they'll actually have a conversation with you for a
text message, and it won't be AI. It'll often be
an actual person and they'll tell you something like, hey,
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you got an actual virus.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Here's how we know.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Here's a plausible story that's human and handwritten, often a
real person. You download an app, you put your credentials
in there for your you know, to have them scan stuff,
and pretty soon, over the course of a couple hours,
they gain your trust. They check your financial institutions, they
have your credentials for that, and they transfer all of
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the money out of your bank account once they have
the numbers and things like that, and you think they're
legit people, even the government you know here trying to
help you through a problem, and when your reality it's
just bad guys that are preying on us and they're
doing it as humans. They're trying to be trustworthy, gaining
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our trust to take advantage of us.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, it's a really sad not on one of these
sad scenarios that unfortunately. Look, technology can be used for
good or for bad in both case.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
What is the app?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
By the way, this says FBI want to do not
install this app on your phone. And by the way,
if you do get into any trouble with this or
anything else you have questions with, Trent's always willing to
help you when it comes to questions. I know people
walk into your st or all the time asking about
what about this and what about that. It's always very
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it's very good to have a friend who knows. Anyway,
there's specifically in situations like this.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, justin this is not one specific app.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
There's probably twenty or forty apps that all have the
same purpose remote control access.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Just beware, how do we know? It's probably a good question.
How do we know you know something like this? How
do we know if it's again app is good to
download or not?
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Yeah, so justin it's some of these apps are actually
legitimate apps. You know, Google you can do remote access.
Microsoft you can do remote access their Teams. So it's
not necessarily like there's there's a handful of bad apps
to not download per se. It's that the remote access part.
So whether it is Teams or Google or something like, Oh,
I trust this, this is actual Microsoft Teams app. Enter
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this code to get into a meeting. I do this
all the time for work. This must be legitimate. It's
not a hacker app that looks sketchy. Anything with remote access.
If they want you to download any kind of an
app to give them access to scan or control your
computer or quote unquote help you with anything, run Nobody
does that for free. Nobody calls you or messages messages
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you to do that. No bank is going to call
you and give you remote support like that.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
That's just not how it works.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
It's even bigger than we thought.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's what scientists are saying, that mysterious interstellar object racing
through the Solar System bigger than Mount Everest. Now this
isn't a spaceship, right, I mean, we can all rest
easy there. It's like some asteroid or meteorite, that type.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Of thing, right, Yeah, justin.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
I think the news needs something to write about other
than the norms, so they just recycle stories because it
feels like every month or two there's a mysterious space signal,
mysterious rock, uh, something that's going to hit the earth
and wipe us out. And then when you read into
the story, it's one and four hundred millionth chance that
it could happen.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
So you're saying there's a chance.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Maybe it's just a distraction from everything else that's going on,
and maybe that's okay.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
In the news, we need more distractions. Is that it?
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you so much for being here with us today.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Thanks justin. Having a great day.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Stay cool, you got it man, you too. Yeah, it's
gotta be a hot one. Holy smokes.