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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tack into the latest in tech and how it affects
you and your world.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
This is tech Talk Tuesday on Wood Radios, West Michigan Live.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
All right, good friend, Trek can I be joining us
in here today and every Tuesday for our conversations on technology.
And there's some big ones today. In fact, I want
to start with the biggest news we had. The story
Trent said last week is it I kind of remember
doing this and I remember thinking to myself, this is
a massive actor. I also thought at the time that

(00:30):
this was probably the scenario. But something happened while they
had diplomats from all over the world at the UN,
a massive attack on cellular communications and.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
We found out who's behind it all China.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Trent, this is the latest story. Welcome then we appreciate it.
Break it down the blaze with this story and again
the you know what exactly happened last week and what
they discovered?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah, talked about this briefly last week. It was of
fresh news. We didn't have all the information yet around
that big UN meeting. But what they what the Secret
Service and more informations come out and basically the Secret
Service uncovered a massive sim farm. What a sim farm
is is it's physical devices that hold SIM cards one

(01:20):
hundred thousand SIM cards on racks of little receptacle computer
devices that you plug them into on shelves so it
doesn't take a lot of space because SIM cards are
pretty small, spread out in three different locations and the
direct vicinity of the UN meeting, and and these things
can do a lot of scary things justin they can

(01:42):
overwhelm cell phone towers, they can hack the communication of
text messages and phone calls. They can be used to
have two fact authentication. We don't know exactly what these
were used for. They're they're not releasing it even if
they know. They're obviously in a hell. But certainly the
big news here is they are saying definitively this was

(02:04):
set up in secret. Obviously they tried to hide it China.
Is what they're reporting is the people that set this up,
and this was used for a nefarious reasons, reasons by China,
mainly surveillance hacking. Close proximity of the UN is very
interesting that maybe they were trying to intercept communications or
do some kind of a mass shutdown of communications to

(02:28):
scare I don't know, justin I mean it's just the
capability of these things is very powerful. Yeah, and to
have those in that close proximity could have done major
disruptions to sell communications or just straight up surveillance of
their text messages and their phone calls.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
What they're able to do with this kind of thing,
the intercept get in between one signal and the other,
and they can clown a SIM card and you have
to fight this. That's how you have two factor authentication
all that other. But all these heads to stay in
one place and to be able to get in and
somehow maybe get into their communications if they already haven't

(03:05):
been able to, that would be that would pose a
big threat and clearly some malfeasans. China doesn't get the
credit for all the spying and all the shenanigans that
they're a part of. They really ought we ought to
be talking more about them. That's why when folks heard
that they were going to put this battery plant up
in the Macosta County Green Charter Chapionship, they were not.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Happy about it. One of the reasons.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Nevertheless, so and it is a story again, it's just
sort of popped up last week and then just sort
of disappeared like into the mist.

Speaker 4 (03:38):
That's the interesting part of these things, Justina. I remember
this SIMP farm is just one that they discovered, and
the Secret Service discovered it, which is typically not discovering
massive cybersecurity things. Because the story gets wilder. The Secret Service,
one of the top people in the Secret Service had
a swatting attempt at him personally, wow, and they dug

(03:59):
into it and this You remember these sim card type farms,
other sim cards and sell your equipment, put into power
inverters that are used on solar panels. You remember we
had a story about that a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
These devices are all over the place, and like you said,
they just kind of people hear about and we just
kind of like, oh whatever, this is a big deal.
This is Uh. Some people are saying, this is an
active war. It's it's massive, it's widespread, it's far more
than we realize. This is the new digital threat age
that we live in.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I would agree it is an active war, not
the old traditional way of thinking when it comes to war.
But this is the new cyber this is the new Uh.
The new battlefield is right there cyber security. That's why
we have Space Force and some of these others that
are that are taking this stuff, and I hope it

(04:54):
seems certainly seems like anyway more and more seriously than
ever before. One of the things we ought to take seriously,
even though it's pretty funny.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
I played part of this clip earlier.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I won't play the whole thing now, but I watched
this and I was blown away on my phone. It's
a video that appears to be President Reagan, it's not.
It's Ai and he is cutting what's called a wrestling promo.
So he's given one of those speeches about how he
wants to fight JFK another president, and how it's going

(05:27):
to go down, and it's scary good.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
If that isn't something, folks, Jack Kennedy wants to step
into my ring at my WrestleMania and he thinks he's
just going to walk out wearing my heavyweight title. Well,
don't I got something for you to hear, mister Kennedy.
So listen up. I've stared down tougher, meaner opponents, and
while I keep lacing these boots, the Reagan Smash is

(05:51):
going to keep laying them out.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
I I watched this and I immediately know, folks, now
this is clearly obvious it's not real. But that's only
because of the context. You got something that's absurd. They're
showing you that there's just no way this was ever real, right,

(06:14):
and then on top of it, you've got a bouncing
little water mark that says Sora on it. Sora happens
to be the AI app, the platform from open Ai,
the folks that brought you chat GPT that are making
this possible. Soa too is the name of the app
that does this. But if it weren't for those things,

(06:36):
and it were a serious conversation about something that was
maybe historic in nature, what what would your what would
your takeaway be? I don't know that you'd be able
to tell that this was fake?

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Trent.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
This is troubling, yeah, justin it is because people are
already used to low quality, you know, average phone shots
that are not real polished, that are not really high resolution,
that are uploaded to social media platform in the form
of shorts, where you have no context of who the
person that made the video, what the account is. You're

(07:09):
not even watching the video for more than three five
ten seconds at the most, never mind looking at who
created the content. Or what their feedback is or long
they've been on social media to vet that people are
mindlessly scrolling through or videos. I see people everywhere doing it.
It's a crazy addiction, and they have no way of
determining the average Joe. Most people, without putting any thought

(07:30):
into have no way of determining what's real and fake,
whether it be a political campaign to smear to promote somebody,
whether it be a natural disaster at event. It's the
ultimate fake propaganda tool for any cause, any movement. Anybody
could now post out and blast out. And you remember,
justin it's not just us as people using these things.

(07:52):
You remember the social media, the Internet has far, far,
far more ten x bots and false people posting and
doing stuff that have all access to these same tools
as we do. And that's something we didn't talk about about.
The sim farm, massive use of those sim farms.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Are you hearing the audio here? I'll make sure that
you don't if you are, But anyway, this is audio
right here or video Trent that we're playing in the
background that appears to be again Sora created, but it's
athletes competing against animals and it's clearly not real. There's
a gorilla playing baseball and then running the bases. There's

(08:38):
a cheetah I guess that is running against the guy
on the track. I mean, it's incredible all of these videos,
and again they're pretty realistic looking. There's an alligator swimming
against a guy in a pool. A bear arm that's
probably the best one. The bar arm wrestling the guy. Yeah,
he's gonna lose, but that we on one hand, we

(09:02):
laugh we look at these and on the other hand, again,
I think we're there. If we're not, if we're you know,
if we're not there yet, we're very close. I think
we're there though where you They're so good you almost
can't tell. The only reason we can tell right now
is the context and how ludacrous are absurd.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Some of these videos are.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Just it's it's it's already beyond I think for ninety
percent of people who are just mindlessly scrolling through stuff
on their phone, vast majority of them are going to
be completely faked out by these things. And it's not
just people, like I said, it's bots, it's other people
putting stuff on their bots, other countries' influencers, you know,

(09:45):
even I don't know. It just opens up such a
massive world of possibility for us to be all just
trolled out.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I know this is radio, so you're not going to
have a chance, but those that are watching the behind
the scenes live stream and then if you want to
later on everything we talk about, we put on the
stack at justin barkley dot com. It'll be a little
bit after we finished the show today, but go to
justin Barkley dot com you'll be able to see the stack.
And this is a video I just saw somebody post

(10:13):
that influencer. Influencers are cooked. They said, this is a video,
okay of someone who's not real. What I eat in
the day, No processed sugar, the woman writes on the screen,
and then you see the video. This is this is
her and she's going through.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Herb no sweeteners.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Needed a coconut latte with cinnamon on top.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Mid morning, I snacked on a super fresh fruit ball
straight from the market.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Lunch was a Tempe nurse plate with brown rice and
loads of veggies.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Around three, I grabbed these coconut energy balls with peanut.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
Here's what it is.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
None of that's real. None of that's real.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
And to your point, this is the kind of thing
that people are watching a lot of right now. These
short videos of people are about here's how I spent
my day and here's how I did that, but that
this is mindless content. Wait until it's something and they'll
be able to I think one of the reasons we're
seeing this right now, and they're showing it to us

(11:13):
right now, is to make us aware that this stuff
is out there and you all everyone, And as my
mindless and absurd as it is, I kind of have
an interesting take on this. It's chatchy gpt or ais
to open a eyes. I think the reason why they're

(11:35):
doing this is it's so good. They want people to
be warned that it's not real. Here's Mario getting pulled
over by a policeman on the summer Keep your hands
on the wheel, almost wiped out three cars back there.
Put in park now Missouri office said, I just don't move,
just locked open it right now.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
You don't stop out weaving through traffic.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Idiot.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, somebody made that on their phone trend.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
That's amazing. It's a gains justin. I mean, how would
you ever know, scrolling through any videos what's real and
fake at that point? Social I mean, these platforms are
saying they're going to put a disclaimer, they're going to
mark these as AI generated content. Well, if you can
put a watermark over it and create a whole video
by AI, you can use AI to remove that watermark.

(12:20):
So I don't think that's going to be a feel
say for any of this AI generated content.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Here is Tony Montana from Scarface giving a ted talk.
I'm not gonna apply it, obviously not gonna play all
this stuff. But there there is SpongeBob getting pulled over
driving down the road, SpongeBob, the actual cartoon character getting
pulled over by the police. You can see the Sora

(12:46):
watermark there. But there's so many of these if you
just go search Sora to over on actual ce all
of the the different things. Now they're not the only ones. Oh,
this might be my one of my favorite. It's Bob Ross.
Bob Ross, remember the painting guy Paint and King Kong,

(13:10):
and he's like, well, I'm just going to put a
little bayonet a man with the bayonet in there, and
there's a little splash of red, just you know, just
for effect. And I'm thinking to myself, this, I've never
seen anything like this before. But they've got these people
and Trent, it's nuts to watch this.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
The crazy thing, Justin is this is their two point
zero model, right, so this is very early release, very basic.
I mean it's not basic technology, but they have in
the hands of the consumers a very non perfected, non
polished problem that works amazingly well. So what can they
do in five years? Yeah, is just unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't know, Strongling.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Here is the warning. If you download Sora to it
acts kind of like a number one. The warning is
that they can do it. But also if you download
Sora to Acts kind of like a social media app,
and then you upload your personality, your person your picture
or whatever, then anybody can anybody can use and I'm

(14:12):
sure you know, people like me, maybe even you now, Trent.
You never know. We're out there. They could do that
with us. So I would say, you know now more
than ever, even if it's me or anyone else saying things,
you really ought to do your due diligence and check
in on it.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
We got to run.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
But this is the last one. Elon says, Hold my
AI Groc is going to be able to do full
movie soon. He says, that's just a clip from a movie,
seeing that Rock has put out some sort of an
action clip there, and he says, not only will we

(14:49):
have this out by the end of this looks like
we'll be able to make a movie that is at
least watchable before the end of next year. In really
good movies in twenty twenty seven, folks, be warned. You
are now fully aware and up.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
To speed up.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Got to post this stuff over at Justin Barklay dot
com if you want to go check it out. Trent.
Always a pleasure, Trent. Can it be a footable Izetorelake
Michigan Drive and Standale and of course uh.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
Grand River Tech as well.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
We're gonna help you with your personal needs or maybe
you've you've got some needs that you've got as a
as a business or a organization school. They can help
you out there too. Always a pleasure. Thank you, Trent,
Thank you for being here, and thank you for signing
a light on the stories that nobody else will here
obviously on West Michigan Love.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Thank you my friend. Thanks Justin.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Have a great day.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
You got it.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
You two
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