James Dickson and Steve Goreham (WML) 5-15-25

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Welcome ahead, folks, sure in for a trade.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
We've got a big one today. In fact, Steve Gorum
coming up a little bit later on the program, about
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Steve Dorms, he's writing a couple of books. In fact,
it's from the Chicago where he's coming in for a
big climate summit that they're gonna do the debunking and debating.

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All the myths.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
You're gonna you're gonna want to hear from Steve coming
up on the big show the program. Obviously we've got
a podcast that we're gonna fire up for you too,
so you're gonna be able to hear and see it.
All and like I said, later this weekend when we
get it all fired up for you. So we appreciate
you taking be here with us. As always, Welcome into

(02:35):
the program first today as we've got lots of breaking news.
Always a pleasure over down I seventy five. You can
find him our good friend on Twitter x James Dixon
the Michigan JOYR Podcast as well. James, appreciate you being
here with us today, man, thank you for joining the program.

Speaker 6 (02:55):
Hey, good morning, justin good to hear your boy.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
You know, it's never a dull moment. In fact, we're
in a week here where things have just been flying
by this ever really since the last week, I guess
you could really say since the last one hundred days
President Trump taken the world by storm. Things are just
off the chain. You've got peace deals being done, you've
got negotiations for economic deals. You've got two million jobs,

(03:19):
he said the other day coming from that deal in
Saudi Arabian is just getting started. The things that are
just barely scratching the surface with some of the things
that we hear coming our way. But we've got lots
happening right here back at home too. And one of
the folks that's been watching and constantly keeps an eye
on Michigan is our good friend James Dixon. And one

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of the things I saw you covering the other day
where the elections have consequences. By the way, we got
a big one coming up in twenty twenty six, the
judicial appointments. A lot of people haven't been paying attention
to this, but Governor Whitman, quietly behind the scenes, has
been making some big moves.

Speaker 6 (04:00):
Yeah, and it's a real problem that since November twenty twenty,
we have seven seats on the Michigan Supreme Court, the
highest state court, the court that in twenty twenty a
month's prior actually gave us back our freedom and ended
Whitmer's pandemic orders. And so, even faced with proof of
how important the Misigan Supreme Court is, Republicans somehow did

(04:24):
not come out in those next several elections. And it's
gotten to the point where now six of the seven
seats are held either by Democrats who won their seat
or like this guy Nick Hood, who was just appointed
to the seat by Whitmer. Elections have consequences. Electing Whitmer
in twenty eighteen meant that she got re elected in

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twenty twenty two meant that she gets to a point
into every judicial opening in Michigan. And this is what's happened.
And so the problem with this is what we just
saw happen this month the Michigan Supreme Court and a
five two ruling says that six hundred killers now justin
these are not people who killed at age eleven or thirteen.

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The brain's not fully formed. These are people who were
nineteen and twenty when they killed people. And they have
to be resentenced, which means that if they decide that
a thirty one year old needs to be resenten in
the future, who's going to stop them. This is a
real threat, and it's because we do not always value
the entire ballot.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
You know, I just got an email about this from Cheryl.
Folks listening to this program always love to hear from them.
By the way, you get the Good newsletter if you
go to Justin Barklay dot com and we can stayd
touch and you can send me stories like that. Cheryl said,
I just wanted to send you an email of a
friend of mine is trying to get the word out
to the people in Michigan about how awful. The Supreme
Court ruling is their son was murdered in Detroit, some

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if not all, of the perpetrators were under twenty one.
As a family member of a murder victim, she has
quite a bit to say about this. And this might
be something for I mean to passed along to you.
We take a look at this. But James, this is
another just I mean, their story after story like this,
and their victims are left and awake of this.

Speaker 6 (06:10):
Absolutely, these are real people. And imagine hearing that the
person who did that to your family member not because
they have, you know, been rehabilitated or changed. We actually
have almost no mechanism in Michigan to give someone credit
for changing or rehabilitating themselves. No, because the justices who

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are democrats and robes set them free or at least
ported them to be refensd and someone else is going
to set them free. This is the quality of justice
you're going to get when judges and justices and people
who are in the legal field don't view their job
as to look at the law and say, what does
the laws say we should apply that. They view it

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as their job to bring social change, and even radical
social change. And these are those spoilt fruits.

Speaker 5 (07:00):
By the way, we'll see more of that in twenty
six if we don't show up in large numbers. If
you look at these folks, another's a story on the
Enjoyer about this. But if you look at these folks,
it goes into great depth of detail. Were we're talking
about all of these people that have been promoted appointed
by Whitmer. They're all left wing activists or all Democrat donors.

(07:23):
By the way, this is exactly how the game works.
This is the grift for Democrats. This is how you
can buy your way into those circles, and it's either
through ideology or donations, and this is how they take
over one institution after the other. And we find ourselves
right now in a place particularly with the like you said,
the Michigan Supreme Court, how bad this is and could

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be for years to come.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
And if there's one thing I could have people understand,
it's that whether it's the judges we elect in Michigan,
whether they're local or statewide, or whether it's the Supreme
Court nationally or the federal judges, judges and justices are
political animals. Don't let that black rope fool you. Everything

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about them is political, whether it's who appoints them, whether.

Speaker 7 (08:15):
It's the fact that they have to be nominated by one.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Of the major parties to make the ballot in Michigan,
everything about their work is political.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
And so if all.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Judges are politicians, then the only question then becomes is
which politicians do we want in charge? Not like there's
you know, some good type of judges and some bad
type of judges. Don't know. If they're all politicians, you
need to have the politicians you're aligned with.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
That's the new world we live in.

Speaker 6 (08:45):
There are no neutral actors.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, and again, this election is going to have massive consequences,
I think far beyond what we can understand. We got
a chance, we've got an opportunity or President Trump won
in twenty four. By the way, this is not the
time to sit back, I can rest. This is the
time to get up and actually work even harder, like
your life depends on it, because ours does.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Here in Michigan.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
We have massive money coming and flowing in another trillion
or two more dollars from these investments that are coming
from the Middle East that we've had announced. I mean,
Massa's almost ten trillion dollars they've announced since President Trump
has taken office, manufacturing, infrastructure, all these things that are
coming into the country, But how much of it will
get done here in Michigan James, I mean, it's a

(09:26):
serious situation when folks are concerned about We're watching some
of this stuff get built up around us, and here
in Michigan. It's almost like we've got no shot. But
they've got no choice some of these companies when they're
looking at the way that business is done here, and
it's very poorly when it comes to Whitmer's government.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Danger Will Robinson. I mean, there's a real chance that
America as a whole could reindustrialize in a substantial way
during the Trump years, that America or but that Michigan specifically,
we'll see very little benefit of that. People have choices
more so than they've ever had. I mean, even the

(10:09):
last you know, thirty forty years, if a Japanese company
is going to set up, they're going to go to Indiana,
they're going.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
To go to Ohio.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
They're not going to go to Michigan. And even with
that history being true, we still decided in twenty twenty three,
let's repeal the right to work law. Let's tie our
workers at the hip with labor unions rather than setting
them free. We do all these things that make no sense.
And so if you want to run off the business community,

(10:38):
you can do that, but it would take a sea
Chaine to welcome them in. And right now we're in
a situation where basically anyone who comes to Michigan does
it out of the kindness of their heart, because we're
not set up for success right now.

Speaker 5 (10:53):
Good friend James Dixon down Ice seventy five over on
Twitter X. Also, Michigan is your the podcast? You've got
something big coming up in the next week or so
with Charlie Photoff, another friend of the show.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
There's a debate. Now.

Speaker 5 (11:08):
I don't see the other side of the state, but
this is important for all folks in Michigan too. It's
another big election, Detroit's next mayor, big debate. I love
the fact that you guys are getting a crack at this.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
I think it's gonna be real fun.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
You know, sometimes people might think that we're just about
the hunting and the fishing and the Northern Michigan. I
hear that we have a Northern Michigan bias. No, we
love all of Michigan, and so we're going to invest
the time and energy. And they're talking to these candidates saying,
what's your vision for our biggest city, because that's the
place where you know, when people's kids graduate college, you're

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either going to want to live in Detroit or near it,
or it's not going to be good enough for you
and you're going.

Speaker 7 (11:49):
To leave for Chicago or New York.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
And so what kind of state are we going to have?
What happens in Detroit has an outsize impact on that.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
Absolutely, and we're watching it. By the way, one of
the googleatorial candidates the current mayor Detroit, and lots of
history to look at for him in that racist things
heat up?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
What else? I mean, obviously we've had.

Speaker 5 (12:12):
A few fear I don't know that they're worth mentioning,
but we said we have had a few people jump
in the race for Senate too.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Oh, the Senate races is just so crowded right now.
I mean, we had Joe Tat, a guy who was.

Speaker 6 (12:24):
Just House speaker in Michigan, we had him join the
Senate field.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Yesterday they have abdul lsied.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
The guy tells himself a doctor, he's not a doctor,
and then you have two white women who are very similar.
Mallory McMorrow kind of represents that upper cross Oakland County
live woman. But then you have Hayley Stevens also who
might get more of the boo collar Oakland County type voters.
So it's a packed field. And when you look at

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the chance that Mike Rogers is going to face one
of those people, this looks really good. Alissa Slockins not
walking through that door. This isn't the Gretchen Whitmer situation.
This is not some greatly skilled politicians that Rogers is
gonna face. It's gonna be a winnable race, but now
you got to go do it.

Speaker 5 (13:12):
I think it's never been more importantly, folks. We face
that on a daily base. We talked about it in
twenty four, We're gonna face it again in twenty six.
But good news is we got a chance to take
action and get another big win on the board. James
Dixon down I seventy five over on Twitter x and
always a pleasure at the Michigan Enjoyer in that podcast.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
We appreciate you, thank you as always for being here
with us.

Speaker 6 (13:33):
Brother always appreciated, Thank you, brother, I appreciate you.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
You got it.

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Welcome back to in Westminski Live and is two's ready
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He's coming to town for a climate summit. Gr Church
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get the details and the podcast, the full conversation and
the only an hour logs we go through everything Trump

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is getting ready. They want to give you a taste
of it this morning, so you get a chance to
hear that. But everything Trump's done with the climate crazies
and trying to write the ship because that has a
lot to do with putting America first and getting us
back on track.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
That's that's for sure. Oh Dan, yep, I know, I
know it. Hey.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
In the meantimes, speaking the crazies, they're everywhere, And in fact,
the latest is at the school board meeting that took
place Toget. I don't know if you saw this one,
but it is a story that nevertheless needs to be shared.
School board meeting and the board members says, you know,
how much prayer do we need at these meetings? Don't
you ever get enough? How much God do you need?

(16:57):
She says in sarcastic, Well, I want you you to
hear some of this, folks are I guess she's getting
a lot of backlash online for this.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Thank goodness, if you put prayer at the beginning of
this meeting. I don't think that's a welcoming signed to
the people who are in this room tonight. How much
prayer do you need? How much God do you need?

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Boy, we say under God, we say it, we say it.
Why do we need to say more? This to me
is very disturbing. I tell you, I'm offended. I'm offended.
I just don't understand why you're comfortable excluding people. Not
everyone who is in this room tonight is Christian.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:38):
By the way, when you include everyone, you exclude everyone.
She's getting at his exclusivity, and what she wants is
to exclude you. She wants to exclude God. That's what
she does. In order to include everyone, you exclude every
There is no other way around this. You don't say
I never have a problem with any other religion. They

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never prom with any other practice of it. There any
other God.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
There's only one.

Speaker 5 (18:05):
By the way, I get it. It's gonna make your
blood pressure boil. I'm going to said things straight. By
the way, she's a school board men from North Carolina,
Caberus County, Pam Escobar, looking at the proposal of their
open meetings with prayer. She just didn't want to hear it.
How much prayer do you need? Short answer, all of it?

(18:26):
By the way, you want the biblical truth on this,
we need all of it. Apostle Paul didn't tell the
church in Thessalonika, pray when it's convenient or if it
fits in maybe in between your scrolls on TikTok or
where people are to print it. Now he said, pray

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without ceasing. By the way, that's a command, not a
polite suggestion. So how much prayer do you need, miss Escobar,
all of it?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I guess what if you do this, we're gonna have
legal challenges.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
I don't think so. And if we do, consider it
pure joy, Consider it pure boy. She claims she's a Christian.
By the way, she says, it's prayer is more like
a side dish. She just doesn't.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Want to have it.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
She frets about diversity, tax payer dollars, the price tag
of godlessness. By the way, we've seen all too common
in the last few years, broken families, violence in the
halls of those kids that don't know how to learn
or or act. They have no idea what truth is anymore.
She's worried about lawsuits. By the way, here's here's a memo.

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Supreme Court's already slapped down the anti prayer crowd and
the Kennedy versus Remort decision. So prayer in public life
is as American as a bold eagle, madam, holding the
copy of the Bill of Rights while we're at it.
So pray without ceasing, Pray boldly, pray morning, noon and night,
and pray publicly. That's why we open a program, this

(20:12):
program with the Lord's Prayer every day. People have asked him,
wondered about that. It's because we're going into battle each.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
And every day.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
A reminder, why does it sound so tense? Well, it's
a football team, it's actually is it. John Harbaugh's team
did the Baltimore Ravens behind the scenes in the locker room,
they did. They open every game with prayer, and I'd
loved it. The Lord's Prayer, Pray without ceasing.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Pray boldly. How much do we need? That's not the
real question.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
The real question, madam, and by the way, this is
when we all ought to be talking about, is how
long can a republic survive? How long can your kids
in school survive without it focused on what matters to you.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
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Speaker 3 (21:11):
Welcome back in.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
He's making a trip a trip to Michigan for a
climate summit. But it's one that you're gonna want to
be a part of because it's truth, logic and common sense,
not all the fake news, wacky sci fi science. Steve
Gorham are good climate expert friend joining us now that

(21:32):
is not going to be happy.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Oh damn you.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
The latest Steve Gorham.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Welcome in. We appreciate you. But a lot to cover
the Trump administration. I want to talk about what is
happening and of course some of the good news and
what we can expect coming from this administration.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
So it's major, major changes in place. A lot of
this isn't in the press, but it's happening every single day.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
I love seeing this. I love hearing it.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Matter of fact, when I saw that the director of
the EPA was going to be lee Z Elden, I
thought to myself, here we go, return to common sense
and we're seeing that, as you mentioned, a lot of
these things aren't front page headlines. Because there's so many
things that are happening, and the left or the climate
change regimes, some of these wackos out there have been

(22:17):
so overwhelmed with so many things which they think is
a fantastic strategy, that they just really haven't been able
to keep up with it all, have they.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
No, it is remarkable. On the twentieth of January, mister
Trump came in and issued a lot of executive orders,
and part of those orders was to basically roll back
the climate regime regime, roll back the Green New Deal,
roll back green energy. On that day, he stopped all
offshore wind leases. We have about eighty or nine states

(22:48):
on the East coast and then Oregon, California on the
west coast that want to build wind turbines everywhere, But
to build a wind turbine offshore, you have to have
a license from the federal government. The US owns a
land from three mile out to two hundred miles out,
and he has shut all those down. We have tremendous
changes to US climate policy and staffing at NOAH, at NASA,

(23:12):
at the Federal Energy Management Agency, at the EPA, and
so there's just huge things going on. Matter of fact,
the climate models may even be challenged. The climate models
are really the have been the core of a climate
alarm from over the last thirty years, predicting all kinds

(23:33):
of things. But now mister Trump is cutting Noah's budget.
I'm scary cutting NASA's budget the Space Agency by fifty
percent in fiscal year twenty twenty six. That's the plan
still has to be approved by Congress, and he may
want them to stick to space exploration that's really amazing

(23:54):
instead of climate stuff. But they've got some of the
climate models. They may not have money to run Noah
the same. They're getting a twenty seven percent cup. The
Department of Energy is getting a big cuts. So these
are big, big changes and just going to stop the
US climate policy climate model efforts in their tracks.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I love saying it. Why don't you break down if
you can some of those things, because you you just
had a few that you went through that some of these.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Cuts and why they're so good.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Some of these agencies were so bloated and the agendas
that they had were far from being what they originally
intended for.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, there are thousands of things that are going on
in all of these agencies. You know, Noah should really
be sticking to weather and weather forecasting. NASA should be
sticking to space exploration and their satellites in orbit, but
they've gotten into all these projects to go after climate change.

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And look at that. Even the US military is another
woman's that's has been a way off base, and we
could talk about that. But the new sector Dement of Defense,
haig seth Is is pulling all the climate stuff out
of the military. So that's a big change as well.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Let's let's talk of it, because you've in the book,
by the way, the folks want to get this the
green breakdown. This is just kind of scratch as a
surface on some of the things that we might see.
One of the stories we just saw in the news,
and this was about a week or so back, massive
story spanning Portugal, and people talked about the blackout, but
I don't see there's a lot of talk about how

(25:36):
why it occurred. They just went dark and it This
is very concerning because something like this happens, and we
look at this particularly in Michigan where they talk about
wanting to use you know, wind and solar solar particularly
in a state where we get very little sunshine a
lot of months of the year, lots of snow covering
those solar panels.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
At some points, they've.

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Got to wonder about this, But this it looks like
some of the reason that this whole thing happened. This dude,
they went dark was because of their gamble on this
green scam.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, it really is on the renewables. So what happened
early beginning of last week was sixty million people lost
power simultaneously in Portugal and Spain and in southern France.
That was probably the biggest blackout in history. And they
were out for more than twelve hours. And this was
just two weeks after they had celebrated that the Spain

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had celebrated they got the one hundred percent of their
electricity from renewable energy. So two weeks later they have
this massive blackout. They had electric trains stopped everywhere all
over the Iberian peninsula. Thirty five thousand people were on trains,
they stopped them. They were getting out standing on the side.
They were in tunnels, they were in the mountains. They

(26:54):
had people who couldn't use their charge cards at home,
couldn't do it anywhere. The internet was out. They had
long lines at cache stations, so people could get money.
They had backup power at those but just a terrific thing.
So why did this happen? The reason is that once
you put in large amounts of wind and solar, you

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end up with a electrical system that has poor stability. Now,
electric power is very special. The amount of electricity demanded
by the businesses and homes has to be equal within
a few seconds of the amount of electricity generated for
the system, otherwise the system breaks down. The other thing

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is that these are the voltages are very closely controlled
in Europe two hundred and twenty volts, and the frequency
of the alternating current fifty hurtz per second is very slight.
It's very sharp, tightly controlled. If you go up till
fifty one hurts or down to forty nine, or if
the voltage drops a little bit or goes up, these

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systems starts shutting down and you have to or you
start destroying equipment, machines and engines and other things that
are hooked up to the electrical supply. So it has
to be closely controlled. Now, in our traditional systems coal
and natural gas, hydro power, they're turning these big turbines

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and if something changes for a second, it doesn't really
change the turbine. The turbine keeps spinning, so there's a
built in stability. But as soon as you put in
wind and solar and you get rid of the coal,
gas and hydro power, they can shut off immediately. There's
no sus stability at all. And that's what happened in Spain.
They had a few systems shut down and within about

(28:40):
five seconds the entire thing crashed, the entire electrical system.
So this is another big problem with renewables that people
don't know about. But that's this poor stability.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Yeah, what that does to, you know, the society in
that scenario, when people don't know what to thinking, they
can't get access to to certain things, I mean, we
can things can devolve rather quickly.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
This is like the end of the world. They were saying,
this is what's gonna happen when the world ends. But
it is consider I'm drinking tequila and then nothing will work.

Speaker 5 (29:20):
Well, well, that only lasts for a couple of days
and then when they can't get things or things go sideways.
I mean you're talking about massive issues there, national security
issues as well as so many other things. So Trump's
new executive orders playing a big role. He I said
that this was going to happen, said that, look, this

(29:41):
is if we don't turn things around here, this is
this is this is part of what's what we're going
to see in just the beginning of it.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
We've actually seen we've actually seen outages writing in the
United States. According to data from the US Entergy Department
of Energy, back about ten years ago twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen,
the average outage cumulative outage of electricity for a year
for a US business or citizen was about three and

(30:11):
a half hours a year. The last three years that's
been running between five and seven hours a year. So
we are our outages are increasing, and it's because we're
putting in these intermittent wind and solar systems.

Speaker 5 (30:26):
Steve Gorm with us right now, of course, the author
of several different books that ask that you go and
grab those definitely going to give you an insight into
some of the things that we're talking about today, but
the things that he's been fighting against and championing for
a long time. In fact, Steve's coming to Grant Rapids shortly.
We're going to get a chance to see him Climate Symposium.

(30:47):
You're going to want to hear about. Of course, the
details coming up here in just a little bit, but
let's talk about Michigan. Trump's new executive orders and one
of the ways that they want to challenge state some
of these wacky laws in Michigan is one of those
states that that's in the in really in the crosshairs here.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Yeah, just earlier, well actually was early it was mianb.
Last month, mister Trump issued another executive order titled protecting
American Energy from State Overreach, and he basically said that
we have a bunch of state laws now which are unconstitutional,

(31:29):
they're beyond the boundaries of what the states should be doing,
and they need to be rolled back. And he directed
Ham Bondy, the new head of the Justice Department, to
identify those laws and to make recommendations. And then within
the last couple of weeks, the Justice Department has sued
the state of Michigan over climate laws, sued the state

(31:50):
of Hawaii, sued the state of Vermont, sued the state
of New York. Actually the Michigan laws right now there.
Michigan has talked about putting in laws that are penalized
to penalize oil companies, but they really haven't done that yet,
where Vermont and New York have. But so what's going

(32:12):
on is we have let me take take you to
the Vermont law. For example, Vermont, Maryland, and New York
are similar. They've passed things called Climate Superfund Acts. And
what they say is that the the fuel companies or
the fossil fuel companies should be held responsible for past

(32:33):
for products that have been tied to emissions over the
past thirty years. And if you use gasoline or other fuel,
then you emit carbon dioxide. And they're seeking, in the
case of New York, up to three billion dollars a
year from the oil companies. And so mister Trump is

(32:53):
challenging these, The Justice Department is challenged challenging these, and
these laws are on their faith unconstitutional. The Constitution says
these laws are passed that says what you did in
the past you now have to pay for. That's called
an expost facto law. And the Constitution in a couple

(33:15):
places says, neither the states or the Congress can pass
a law today over past actions. And that's exactly what
New York and Vermont and Maryland have done. And so
these are going to be knocked down. The other thing
is that these laws talk about emissions that are beyond
the borders of the state. They're across the United States,

(33:35):
they're across the world, which again is beyond the responsibility.
Air emissions are the responsibility of federal government according to
the Clean Air Act of nineteen seventy and other years.
So these are all going to be struck down. But
this is the first time in history that we've had
the federal government attacking state climate laws. And Michigan we'll see,

(33:59):
you know, by the way, the current Michigan law, let
me see if I can get the name of that.
That's the Michigan Healthy Climate Plan. That probably is not
at risk because that just talks about boosting solar and
doing some other things. But if Michigan goes after the
oil companies, then they'll be facing the Justice Department of
the federal.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Government, as they should. You know.

Speaker 5 (34:21):
One of the things that we've already started to see here,
by the way, Steve in Michigan and throughout In fact,
I just saw this shared moments ago earlier over on
exits prices price charts here per CNBC, Holy Smokes prices
going down. Didn't realize it was going to be this
big CNBC saying gas has gone down ten percent, Well,

(34:43):
tomatoes eight percent, let us five percent, TVs car truck,
wintle nine percent, dishes and flat where eleven percent.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
The list goes on and on.

Speaker 5 (34:51):
But what I've what I've noted, is that here in Michigan,
I've seen well, no, the price of barrel of oil's
gone gone down quite a bit too, But the gas
itself at the pump, we're down around the three dollars
or two ninety nine in that range, which I think
is close to what the national averages.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
We're looking good.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
Michigan has some weird gas taxes and things like that
that make things a little bit more expensive at times too,
So that's part of it if you don't see it
lining up in some ways. But I paid two seventy something,
I think two seventy two the other day, and I
was blown away at that price. We're seeing these prices
start to move. This was part of the idea of Drill, Baby, Drill,

(35:32):
let's get back into that energy independence lane, and everything
is starting to move.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, we can talk about tariffs too as well. A
lot of people have said those are going to cause inflation.
But there's a couple of things going to happen. We
do have energy prices falling or flat, as you say,
that's a big component of what consumers pay. The food
prices as well. If you know, if we can't export
food to China in other places, it's going to lower
the prices of the food. It's going to hurt farmers some,

(35:58):
but it's going to lower food in the US, so
that's going to come down as well. The other thing
is that we should have interest rates coming down. So
if you have a fuel, food and housing coming down,
you're not going to have inflation. Generally. The things that
may go up are you toys and electronic goods and
other things that come from Asia, but overall probably not

(36:18):
going to see a lot of inflation.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
It's just a taste of the conversation that we get
to have in the podcast. To be dropping this weekend
for everyone everywhere. But Steve, just a reminder you're coming
to town Big Climate Summit. You'll be able to say hi,
ask questions in person.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
We can shake hands. May twenty third, if you have time,
come to the gr Church and Grand Rapids the Climate
sympose you there. Myself and doctor cal Biser or the
Cornwall Alliance will be there. We'll be there for three
hours talking. We're happy to be challenged, happy to have
a little bit of a debate. So if you've got

(36:54):
a chance that Friday evening, head up to Grand Rapids
and we'll see you there.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Well, make sure we get the information online for folks
to be able to be a part of it. Looks
like a great opportunity to our church, great place to
watch that and to enjoy any event.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Steve, always a pleasure.

Speaker 5 (37:11):
We'll have you back on soon, I'm sure, and dig
into more of these conversations as they continue to be
a breaking news interest on the daily. Thank you as always,
Thank you justin keep up your great work, you too,
God bless full spin ahead, we got more of the
Glenn back program is on the way next and yes,

(37:32):
don't go anywhere, folks will give you a chance to
catch up with the latest headlines from around those state
and beyond with the folks at The Midwesterner, The Midwesterner
Non News Matt Max Douvil.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Radio breaking down the story. It's West Michigan Live with
Justin Barkley on News Radio one thirteen hundred and one
oh six nine a f.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
M headlines from The Midwesterner this Thursday, May fifteen. I
I'm Robin Hoffman. It's a Midwesterner. Dot News original story
or report out that President Trump wanted John James to
forego a bid for governor and instead run for reelection.
Politico out with a story that the President wanted Michigan
Congressman James, a Republican, to stay put on Capitol Hill,

(38:20):
but that James instead decided to run for governor. In
other news, Michigan House Oversight Committee chair Republican Jada Boyer
telling The Midwesterner legal action could be considered if Secretary
of State Jocelyn Benson does not comply with a subpoena
requesting clerk training materials. The committee is requesting documents that

(38:41):
outline how local election workers are trained to carry out
their duties. Standing in front of a huge Peace through
Strength banner, President Trump addressing our troops at our air
base in Qatar before he heads to the United Arab Emirates. Earlier,
at a business leader's breakfast, the President saying, of our
relationship with Iran.

Speaker 9 (39:00):
Not like I have to give you thirty pages worth
of details. There's only one sentence, they can't have a
nuclear weapon.

Speaker 8 (39:06):
For these stories and more, visit the Midwesterner at the
Midwesterner dot news.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
No welcome back in and we are moving the fastests
sound radio already moving through.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
By the way, you can hear the full coverage. People
wanted to wonder about this one.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
You Steve Warner to get the details about the event
at gr church.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
We got them online.

Speaker 5 (39:28):
We'll make sure that you can get them to justin
Barkley dot com. And I make sure that you can
see him and all of the festivities at that climate
summit they've got coming up there at the church. Yeah,
I think in the next week or so. By the way,
always a pleasure having him on. But the full podcast
conversation nearly an hour where he breaks down everything Trump

(39:49):
is done in the first hundred days, what he expects
coming in the next hundred, and what it means to
turn the country around.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Why we've got to do it. We've got no choice.

Speaker 5 (39:56):
You can get that on the iHeartRadio, wherever you download
your podcast up Let's they'll stream it everywhere Facebook, Twitter, Acts, Rumble,
get our locals justin Barkley dot com to make sure
you stay up the day when.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
It all, what.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Lots come again and moments away. Folks stand by for
the latest in the Columback program. First, we'll grab our
news headlines back tomorrow with more.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Kick it off the weekend.

Speaker 5 (40:20):
Make it a great one, God bless just a small challenge.