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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in Live from the Swamp. From the swamp back
home to what really probably matters most in our backyard.
Our good friend James Dixon has joined us down I
seventy five over on X and of course with the
Enjoyer podcast. He's in his studio. I'm on the road.
(00:23):
It literally in the swamp, James. It's been a heck
of a week already. Man, we got lots going on
and we can talk about some of those things they're
just telling you about some of the trip. Meeting RFK
and asked Christino home about her purse yesterday, which was fantastic,
and I sat down with an interview for I'm not
kidding you. When she got up to leave, I said,
wait a minute, you got your purse, don't you used
(00:46):
to make sure we have had a great trip, and
it's really it's been fantastic, but we are we're you know,
we got a lot of things going on back home.
It's like a whirlwind. We got lots of things happening
and lancing and I want to cover and talk about
some of those. We got some of the Oversight Committee
(01:06):
stuff that's happening right now. But you've got a peace
out in the New York Post. Congratulations, this is a
fantastic story. In fact, James says, you've been writing for
the New York peras. You wrote a lot for them
back in the campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
During the election. Yeah, but you've got a.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Story out of Michigan that is to me. We hear
about law fare, we hear about the judges and the
courts and how they came after Trump. This is the
way the swamp fights back, and we're meeting them. It
sounds like folks on their level. So to bring us
up to speed, what's happening with this particular lawsuit and
why is it so significant that it landed a story
(01:46):
in the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, absolutely, So you know, July twenty twenty, just two
months after George Floyd dies, Gretchen Whitmer, in the heat
of the moment it passes this executive director of it
says we have all these health disparities in Michigan, which
she actually uses COVID data to cite this, and basically says,
because we have health disparities, it must be because people
(02:10):
in the medical fields are doing something wrong. And so
she puts into place what would become an implicit bias
training requirement. Okay, so Whitmer directs it. Then LAURA, which
handles occupational licensing, the Licensing and Regulatory Affairs Department, then
they put this training requirement into place as a rule.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And so now you have four.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Hundred thousand people in Michigan who if you want to
get your medical license of various types, it could be acupuncture, midwifery,
physical therapy. If you want to get licensed, you need
to take this training. And if you want to get
your license renewed, you need to take this training which
is premised on the idea that you're racist, but for
(02:54):
the training, except for you being taught how not to be.
And when you look at how the Democrats are operating
during the Biden years, Debbie Dingle, one of our congress women,
slips it into one of Biden's bills ignition Interlock, that
you have to blow into a breath of life, you
have to have a vehicle installed with a breathalyzer, and
(03:17):
that unless you blow negative, you can't drive. So Democrats,
whether it's national, whether it's local, have this mentality that
you are guilty until proven innocent. And you know, implicit
buyers training is another example of that. We're not saying
people who've had a specific problem, you know, they're not
(03:37):
the only one sent to it. Everyone has to take
it every time. At absolute best, it's a racket. At
absolute worst, it's indoctrination. And here's my problem. Justin if
today they say you need to take this kind of
training to have a license, and ten years from now,
the people who don't like it leave and the people
(03:57):
who are fine with it stay. By twenty five, already
five they could be saying you have to take implicit
bias training to get medical care.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, that's the thing that I think. We have slippery
slope conversations all the time. Folks talk about this stuff,
and I think for some it may seem a little
bit like, you know, chicken little like this sky is falling.
But right, you know, don't we don't have to look
much further than what we've seen. And recently, these are
(04:30):
really policies that have I think disastrous negative consequences, you know,
and there's really very little upside to it. By the way,
this crazy thing that you know you have implicit bias
based on who you are or how you were born
or whatever that might be the color of your skin.
(04:50):
I mean isn't this it's reverse racism. It sounds like I.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Think it's just racism, and and it's funny though, so
everyone has bias to deal with, because you know, that's
why you need to take the seminar. But then when
you look at their definition of racism, it says basically
only certain types of groups can be racist depending on
relative power dynamics within the group, which is a version
of what we all heard in college. Essentially, black people
(05:17):
can't be racist because you don't have power, as if
things like power are not all environmental. There could be
power within a room. There could be power within who
gets to use the bench press in the gym, there
could be power. Power happens in multiple ways. It's not
just all resources and assets and things like that. And
(05:38):
to create this definition where only black people could be
exempt from the possibility of racism, when in fact, we
all know that the blackness within your heart exists in
every man. We all have the capabilities to do that,
and it's our job as men to overcome those things.
And so it takes something that we all wrestle with
(06:00):
and turns it into an accusation and absolution doesn't God,
it could only come from taking my required training seminar, which,
by the way, that'll run.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You ninety nine bucks.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So now we're on to the key here. Who is
providing this at the state? Is it the state providing it?
Have they contracted with another company to provide it? Who's
getting rich off of this?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You can get some that that element that purport to
have free elements, but whether it's nine dollars, you know,
you can get them for as low as ten dollars.
You can get them for ninety nine dollars. I guess whatever.
Right off you choose to take wo But this is
absolutely a racket and it's no different than DEI trainings
because basically we have a way to enrich the consultant
(06:50):
class of our movement by forcing you into trainings with them.
But here's my biggest concern though, Justin, is that this
whole story revolves around this guy, this dentist, Kern Wildern,
this grand rapids dentist for forty years, who at age
seventy one, would like to come back to dentistry and
service community, probably not for much money, probably has more
(07:13):
of a community service. The current Wilders of the world
leave the field. Okay, So a guy like Garrett Saldano
ran for governor of twenty twenty two, chiropractor, big anti
lockdown guy. He has to stay and he has to
grit his teeth and do it because he's only mid career.
What about all the people who leave after twenty thirty
(07:34):
forty years who have another decade of working life in them,
but they don't want to take these requirements. What it's
ultimately going to do is it's going to turn the
field of medicine into something where only a liberal could
tolerate being in that field. Only a liberal would tolerate
(07:55):
the trainings. And someone who doesn't want to do it
wouldn't go that route in the first place. And so
every time conservatives tell young men don't go to college,
that's bad advice. You know, we're learning now apparently the
US Supreme Court of the most powerful people on earth.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You think you're going to get there not going to college.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And so there's no easy path, there's no easy way,
there's no right way, there's no absolution that can be
given if you take a seminar. These are human struggles,
and when we try to pathologize them, what we try
to do is say there's this one group of enlightened
people who do things the right way, and you all
need to learn to be like them. That's a bogus
(08:39):
mentality from the beginning. We have to reject it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
James Dixon is with us right now West Michigan Live
with Radio. He's down I seventy five over on X
and the Michigan Enjoyer Podcast. I want to ask you, James.
One of the things that came up while I was here.
We had conversations over and over again about the economic policy,
(09:05):
the different prongs of what Trump is trying to do,
the plan to get America back on track. We've talked
to tariffs and the trillions of dollars that are coming
back here. We talked to manufacturing, what it takes to
make things in America again. But one of the things
that I brought up is one of the things we're
thinking about here in Michigan, which is, Hey, it's great
that things are going to be made in America again,
but what about Michigan.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But what about Michigan.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We're not left out right, and we've been plans announced
in Indiana and Illinois and Louisiana and beyond, and yes,
the auto industry is big here but we should be
making things, not just autos, but we should be making
everything here in Michigan. But right now, politicians like Whitmer
(09:48):
and those Democrat policies have done anything but make things
easy to get things made here. In fact, they made
it a whole lot worse.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And when you think about thing like right to work,
you know, we had that for a decade and then
they repealed it in twenty twenty three, and at the
time that was a terrible thing. But right now, with
the governor's race next year, I'm almost looking at it
as an opportunity. So what if, what if right to
work did find a champion, but not what we had
(10:20):
ten years. You know, no one cares about what we had.
Refighting an old battle is not something anyone's going to
sign up for, probably not even the Macanaw Center. But
what if you modernized it and said, we don't just
need to free you from the obligation to be a
union member. We're also going to free you from Oh,
your company says you have to get a job to
keep your job. We're going to free you from that too.
(10:42):
We're going to for you from government coercion too. That
says you have to get this certain ideological training to
keep your job, almost like a worker's bill of rights,
that kind of thing. Because we talk about freedom from
and that is important. We need to read them from.
We need we need the freedom from this coercion that
(11:03):
we've seen take multiple forms one hundred years ago. Yes,
people were losing their lives over I want to work
in this mine, but I don't want to have a
union card.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's not the threateningmore, it's not the only threat.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
There's these there's these other ways that they can coerce
action out of you and cost you your livelihood. And
that's what someone needs to grab onto. And so who's
going to modernize right to work? Who's going to take
that on as a champion and say, yes, let's free
you from a union, but let's also free you from jabs.
Let's also for you from these seminars. Let's also free
(11:37):
you from the people and the forces that are trying
to push you out of the workforce.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Lots going on here, not only in the swamp, but
also back at home and as well. And James, let
me ask you, I know you're focused on a lot
of these different issues. What else are you looking at
in the days ahead. We got the article in the
New York Posts to encourage people to go read that.
We'll put that in the link today. But what else?
What else are you looking on and planning there?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You know, we just had a podcast dropped today about
how the Democrats have become no party for white men.
Fun fact, the last time the Democrats had a white
man win the governor's race in Michigan was nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It'll be forty years from now by the time twenty
twenty six rolls around. And so when you look at
our twenty first century history, you have eight years of
grand home, you have eight years of whitmer. When you
look at a Mike Duggan saying the Democrat Party left me,
what does he mean by that? By that he means this,
He means white men and men in general are not
(12:42):
valued in that party anymore. And when you look at
our recent history, when you look at the twenty eighteen
pink wave, they don't think they need him, they don't
value him.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And so that's why he had to leave. It's pink
that ran him off, you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Know, And think about this, Uh, they don't want to
steal your thunder. But it's not just men. Uh you know,
we've got McMorrow in a race here for for Senate,
and I guess Stevens is announced too. But you know
they've got they've got some tough and especially with is
it a duel else, Diane, that's right. I interviewed him
(13:23):
years ago when he ran for government the first time round,
and he's gonna out left them all. In fact that
we've got Bernie's endorsement. So they've got trouble and it's
they're gonna push.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Each other so far left.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It's like Belman, Louise, I love it right over the cliff.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You're gonna go off the cliff together.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
What we need. I'm I'm actually excited about seeing that. Hey,
thank you for joining us because I think, uh, you know,
that's gonna make it a lot easier. But you know,
you have great conversations having on the podcast every day.
We appreciate your your you know, weighing in on Twitter
as well and X down I seventy five. You enjoyer
James from the swamp to your studio back home and
(14:01):
we'll be back home very soon. I appreciate you taking
the time for being here with us today. Thank you
so much, my friend.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Enjoy yourself in DC, Justin.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You got it back with more after this, it's West
Michigan Live on Wood Radio. God bless
Welcome in Live from the Swamp. From the swamp back
home to what really probably matters most in our backyard.
Our good friend James Dixon has joined us down I
seventy five over on X and of course with the
Enjoyer podcast. He's in his studio. I'm on the road.
(00:23):
It literally in the swamp, James. It's been a heck
of a week already. Man, we got lots going on
and we can talk about some of those things they're
just telling you about some of the trip. Meeting RFK
and asked Christino home about her purse yesterday, which was fantastic,
and I sat down with an interview for I'm not
kidding you. When she got up to leave, I said,
wait a minute, you got your purse, don't you used
(00:46):
to make sure we have had a great trip, and
it's really it's been fantastic, but we are we're you know,
we got a lot of things going on back home.
It's like a whirlwind. We got lots of things happening
and lancing and I want to cover and talk about
some of those. We got some of the Oversight Committee
(01:06):
stuff that's happening right now. But you've got a peace
out in the New York Post. Congratulations, this is a
fantastic story. In fact, James says, you've been writing for
the New York peras. You wrote a lot for them
back in the campaign.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
During the election. Yeah, but you've got a.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Story out of Michigan that is to me. We hear
about law fare, we hear about the judges and the
courts and how they came after Trump. This is the
way the swamp fights back, and we're meeting them. It
sounds like folks on their level. So to bring us
up to speed, what's happening with this particular lawsuit and
why is it so significant that it landed a story
(01:46):
in the New York Post.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, absolutely, So you know, July twenty twenty, just two
months after George Floyd dies, Gretchen Whitmer, in the heat
of the moment it passes this executive director of it
says we have all these health disparities in Michigan, which
she actually uses COVID data to cite this, and basically says,
because we have health disparities, it must be because people
(02:10):
in the medical fields are doing something wrong. And so
she puts into place what would become an implicit bias
training requirement. Okay, so Whitmer directs it. Then LAURA, which
handles occupational licensing, the Licensing and Regulatory Affairs Department, then
they put this training requirement into place as a rule.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And so now you have four.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Hundred thousand people in Michigan who if you want to
get your medical license of various types, it could be acupuncture, midwifery,
physical therapy. If you want to get licensed, you need
to take this training. And if you want to get
your license renewed, you need to take this training which
is premised on the idea that you're racist, but for
(02:54):
the training, except for you being taught how not to be.
And when you look at how the Democrats are operating
during the Biden years, Debbie Dingle, one of our congress women,
slips it into one of Biden's bills ignition Interlock, that
you have to blow into a breath of life, you
have to have a vehicle installed with a breathalyzer, and
(03:17):
that unless you blow negative, you can't drive. So Democrats,
whether it's national, whether it's local, have this mentality that
you are guilty until proven innocent. And you know, implicit
buyers training is another example of that. We're not saying
people who've had a specific problem, you know, they're not
(03:37):
the only one sent to it. Everyone has to take
it every time. At absolute best, it's a racket. At
absolute worst, it's indoctrination. And here's my problem. Justin if
today they say you need to take this kind of
training to have a license, and ten years from now,
the people who don't like it leave and the people
(03:57):
who are fine with it stay. By twenty five, already
five they could be saying you have to take implicit
bias training to get medical care.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Yeah, that's the thing that I think. We have slippery
slope conversations all the time. Folks talk about this stuff,
and I think for some it may seem a little
bit like, you know, chicken little like this sky is falling.
But right, you know, don't we don't have to look
much further than what we've seen. And recently, these are
(04:30):
really policies that have I think disastrous negative consequences, you know,
and there's really very little upside to it. By the way,
this crazy thing that you know you have implicit bias
based on who you are or how you were born
or whatever that might be the color of your skin.
(04:50):
I mean isn't this it's reverse racism. It sounds like I.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Think it's just racism, and and it's funny though, so
everyone has bias to deal with, because you know, that's
why you need to take the seminar. But then when
you look at their definition of racism, it says basically
only certain types of groups can be racist depending on
relative power dynamics within the group, which is a version
of what we all heard in college. Essentially, black people
(05:17):
can't be racist because you don't have power, as if
things like power are not all environmental. There could be
power within a room. There could be power within who
gets to use the bench press in the gym, there
could be power. Power happens in multiple ways. It's not
just all resources and assets and things like that. And
(05:38):
to create this definition where only black people could be
exempt from the possibility of racism, when in fact, we
all know that the blackness within your heart exists in
every man. We all have the capabilities to do that,
and it's our job as men to overcome those things.
And so it takes something that we all wrestle with
(06:00):
and turns it into an accusation and absolution doesn't God,
it could only come from taking my required training seminar, which,
by the way, that'll run.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
You ninety nine bucks.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
So now we're on to the key here. Who is
providing this at the state? Is it the state providing it?
Have they contracted with another company to provide it? Who's
getting rich off of this?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
You can get some that that element that purport to
have free elements, but whether it's nine dollars, you know,
you can get them for as low as ten dollars.
You can get them for ninety nine dollars. I guess whatever.
Right off you choose to take wo But this is
absolutely a racket and it's no different than DEI trainings
because basically we have a way to enrich the consultant
(06:50):
class of our movement by forcing you into trainings with them.
But here's my biggest concern though, Justin, is that this
whole story revolves around this guy, this dentist, Kern Wildern,
this grand rapids dentist for forty years, who at age
seventy one, would like to come back to dentistry and
service community, probably not for much money, probably has more
(07:13):
of a community service. The current Wilders of the world
leave the field. Okay, So a guy like Garrett Saldano
ran for governor of twenty twenty two, chiropractor, big anti
lockdown guy. He has to stay and he has to
grit his teeth and do it because he's only mid career.
What about all the people who leave after twenty thirty
(07:34):
forty years who have another decade of working life in them,
but they don't want to take these requirements. What it's
ultimately going to do is it's going to turn the
field of medicine into something where only a liberal could
tolerate being in that field. Only a liberal would tolerate
(07:55):
the trainings. And someone who doesn't want to do it
wouldn't go that route in the first place. And so
every time conservatives tell young men don't go to college,
that's bad advice. You know, we're learning now apparently the
US Supreme Court of the most powerful people on earth.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You think you're going to get there not going to college.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And so there's no easy path, there's no easy way,
there's no right way, there's no absolution that can be
given if you take a seminar. These are human struggles,
and when we try to pathologize them, what we try
to do is say there's this one group of enlightened
people who do things the right way, and you all
need to learn to be like them. That's a bogus
(08:39):
mentality from the beginning. We have to reject it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
James Dixon is with us right now West Michigan Live
with Radio. He's down I seventy five over on X
and the Michigan Enjoyer Podcast. I want to ask you, James.
One of the things that came up while I was here.
We had conversations over and over again about the economic policy,
(09:05):
the different prongs of what Trump is trying to do,
the plan to get America back on track. We've talked
to tariffs and the trillions of dollars that are coming
back here. We talked to manufacturing, what it takes to
make things in America again. But one of the things
that I brought up is one of the things we're
thinking about here in Michigan, which is, Hey, it's great
that things are going to be made in America again,
but what about Michigan.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
But what about Michigan.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
We're not left out right, and we've been plans announced
in Indiana and Illinois and Louisiana and beyond, and yes,
the auto industry is big here but we should be
making things, not just autos, but we should be making
everything here in Michigan. But right now, politicians like Whitmer
(09:48):
and those Democrat policies have done anything but make things
easy to get things made here. In fact, they made
it a whole lot worse.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
That's exactly it.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
And when you think about thing like right to work,
you know, we had that for a decade and then
they repealed it in twenty twenty three, and at the
time that was a terrible thing. But right now, with
the governor's race next year, I'm almost looking at it
as an opportunity. So what if, what if right to
work did find a champion, but not what we had
(10:20):
ten years. You know, no one cares about what we had.
Refighting an old battle is not something anyone's going to
sign up for, probably not even the Macanaw Center. But
what if you modernized it and said, we don't just
need to free you from the obligation to be a
union member. We're also going to free you from Oh,
your company says you have to get a job to
keep your job. We're going to free you from that too.
(10:42):
We're going to for you from government coercion too. That
says you have to get this certain ideological training to
keep your job, almost like a worker's bill of rights,
that kind of thing. Because we talk about freedom from
and that is important. We need to read them from.
We need we need the freedom from this coercion that
(11:03):
we've seen take multiple forms one hundred years ago. Yes,
people were losing their lives over I want to work
in this mine, but I don't want to have a
union card.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's not the threateningmore, it's not the only threat.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
There's these there's these other ways that they can coerce
action out of you and cost you your livelihood. And
that's what someone needs to grab onto. And so who's
going to modernize right to work? Who's going to take
that on as a champion and say, yes, let's free
you from a union, but let's also free you from jabs.
Let's also for you from these seminars. Let's also free
(11:37):
you from the people and the forces that are trying
to push you out of the workforce.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Lots going on here, not only in the swamp, but
also back at home and as well. And James, let
me ask you, I know you're focused on a lot
of these different issues. What else are you looking at
in the days ahead. We got the article in the
New York Posts to encourage people to go read that.
We'll put that in the link today. But what else?
What else are you looking on and planning there?
Speaker 3 (12:02):
You know, we just had a podcast dropped today about
how the Democrats have become no party for white men.
Fun fact, the last time the Democrats had a white
man win the governor's race in Michigan was nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
It'll be forty years from now by the time twenty
twenty six rolls around. And so when you look at
our twenty first century history, you have eight years of
grand home, you have eight years of whitmer. When you
look at a Mike Duggan saying the Democrat Party left me,
what does he mean by that? By that he means this,
He means white men and men in general are not
(12:42):
valued in that party anymore. And when you look at
our recent history, when you look at the twenty eighteen
pink wave, they don't think they need him, they don't
value him.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
And so that's why he had to leave. It's pink
that ran him off, you.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Know, And think about this, Uh, they don't want to
steal your thunder. But it's not just men. Uh you know,
we've got McMorrow in a race here for for Senate,
and I guess Stevens is announced too. But you know
they've got they've got some tough and especially with is
it a duel else, Diane, that's right. I interviewed him
(13:23):
years ago when he ran for government the first time round,
and he's gonna out left them all. In fact that
we've got Bernie's endorsement. So they've got trouble and it's
they're gonna push.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Each other so far left.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It's like Belman, Louise, I love it right over the cliff.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
You're gonna go off the cliff together.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
What we need. I'm I'm actually excited about seeing that. Hey,
thank you for joining us because I think, uh, you know,
that's gonna make it a lot easier. But you know,
you have great conversations having on the podcast every day.
We appreciate your your you know, weighing in on Twitter
as well and X down I seventy five. You enjoyer
James from the swamp to your studio back home and
(14:01):
we'll be back home very soon. I appreciate you taking
the time for being here with us today. Thank you
so much, my friend.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Enjoy yourself in DC, Justin.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
You got it back with more after this, it's West
Michigan Live on Wood Radio. God bless
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