Justin Barclay Show: Guest Host - Jonathan Dunne

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Top of the Morning, America. This is the Justin Barclay Show.
But I am not Justin Berklay. I am your Irish
friend Jonathan Dunnha'm backed by popular demand that this is
Detroit's news talk superstation nine ten AM. Take us wherever
you go, stream us on the iHeartRadio app or a
nine ten superstation dot com. We're going to talk today

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about the future of America. I'd love for you to
get involved in the in the show. The number is
two four eight eight hundred talk. That's two four eight
eight hundred eight two five five. You know. One of
the things I love about getting the honor and the
privilege of being asked to cover in front of Justin
is he goes. He starts to show the right way

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with the national anthem. The national anthem finishes. Oh say,
does that Star spangled banner yet wave over the Land
of the Free and the Home of the Brave America.

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We need to have a serious, serious conversation, and it's
about the future of America. What are we going to do?
Are we going to continue to be a constitutional republic,
the greatest nation that is ever existed on the earth.

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Are we going to be a country that believes in
common sense fiscal sanity. Are we going to continue this
lifelong tread of going towards democracy towards fiscal insanity. Yes,
I'm going there because what happened in DC last night

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is nothing short of a disgrace. The idea that you
would have a lame duck session discussing putting anything on
your kids and your grandkid's future is a disgrace. What's
the point in having elections? Last night was fiscal insanity

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at its best, And where's the outrage you see there?
There are many things that will destroy this nation. If
you go through the history of the world, many nations
have risen and many nations will crumble. They crumble for
different reasons. But there is one issue going all the
way back to ancient Rome, which will always come to

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kill a nation, and that is fiscal irresponsibility. And that
is what you saw last night. Now, there are many
people that I've been frightened by these conversations. I'm excited
by the election results some of them. I'm glad that
in a couple of weeks we will have President Trump.

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But I am truly frightened by the amount of people
who think we know Trump's got it great. Even if
that's true, that's four years at best. We must start
planting seeds for what's going to happen in twenty five,
twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, and going further. It's

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time for a to waken up, to re establish its greatness.
Not just because yeah, we're Americans and we're greater than
everyone else. No, because we are greater because we have
a set of principles, we have a code, and it
was about Nature's law and Nature's God. There's a reason

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your chart, your course, your history is defined better than
everyone else. Or is that idea dead? Am I just
some crazy Irish guy. Today we're gonna have a lot
of guests and we're gonna talk about the future of America.

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And my first guest is going to join us. It's
a lady called Miss Raven. She is running for office.
She has had enough. Good morning, Miss Raven. How are
you this morning?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'm doing great, Good morning.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Thank you so much for joining us. So, before we
get into your story, why don't you tell the audience
who you're running against and sort of what inspired you
to get involved and sort of say I've had enough.
I'm going to put my name on the ballot and
let people decide if they want to vote for me
or not.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Well, it's again you made a good point of where's
the outrage, and the outrage is right here. It's the
decision is to tell people that it's we the people.
It is really important to remind people who and what
we the people is We the people is not electing

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people and then kind of going well, they've got it.
We the people means that we have to be involved.
We have to be engaged in what's going on. So again,
the politicians who broke this system, who damaged this trust
in from the American people, aren't going to be the
ones who fixed it. You can't heal in the environment

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that made you sick. So I tell people all the
time that you have to be the change you want
to see. So I will be doing what a lot
of people are doing. Will have more details to come.
I'm teasing it right now, but yes, it is coming.
Change is coming. When we decide President Trump can do
great things, He's going to do great things, but we

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need to help him. We need to back him up,
and we need to stay on top of things like
what happened last.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Night and we also need to hold him accountable because
I know i'd love to know your opinion on what
he said last night, that he's one of the proposals
he's put out, which quite honestly, you know, I'm gonna
I call a spadas babe. When Trump is right, I'll
say he's right. But when he's wrong, he's wrong. He's
wrong in what he's saying. But the death seiling going
away to twenty twenty seven, America a thirty five trillion

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dollars cannot afford this. Do you agree or disagree?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I agree, it's thirty six trillion dollars, and I feel
like that's really really important because people who support Trump,
they like to call you cultist. You're in a cult. Okay,
so you're not in a cult to support somebody who's
obviously mentally unpaired. But we're in a cult to support Trump.
And I do support President Trump fully and wholeheartedly. It

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doesn't mean I agree with absolutely everything that he says.
It means that I believe he is the best person
for the job, and I believe that the most important
thing is we have got to get this country back
to common sense. We have got to get back to
the principles of the Constitution, and a lot of people
that makes you far right. No, that makes me right

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so far. The Constitution is the guide. We believed in God,
we believed in fiscal responsibility, we believed in limited government.
And what you're seeing right now is a government run amok,
a government that doesn't feel like it has to listen
to the people who elected them to run it. They've
got their fingers in every pie except the ones they're
supposed to. They're supposed to be keeping Americans safe. That

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is their primary responsibility. And as far as Congress, Congress
is primary responssibility is to pass a balanced budget, which
we have not had in since the nineties. That's what
people need to pay attention. They're not getting it done.
Continuing Resolutions omnibus as I call it, pramnibus, are not governing.
It is kicking the can down the road and passing

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on an unsustainable amount of debt to our children. That's
what is happening right now, is you're not seeing governing.
You're seeing people jockeying to enrich themselves. And the American
people have to be involved.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
I totally agree. And what we're seeing right now and
I've said this before, and people say you've been out
of line. I don't think I'm going far enough when
I say, what's happening in DC and what happened the
last night is child abuse? You know, no one else
if I said I have a kid and she's six
months old, and I went into the bank and said, hey,
got my kids six months old? Hey can you give

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her a credit card? And I'm going to spend it,
and then I'm just when she's eighteen, I'm going to say,
who's your happy eighteen birthday? A credit card? Me and
your mom had a wonderful time on your time. Anyone
would say that's child abuse. But that's exactly what's happening
in DC. Except we're not just doing it to our children.
We're doing it to our grandchildren, to our great grand children,
to future generations that are yet even been taught of.

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And we're just okay with it.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Well, a lot of people are. I am not. And
let me give you a further I think that's a
wonderful example. I put it to people like this, If
you have a teenager who has their first credit card
and they go out and they go shopping, and they
overspend and they overdraw the account and spend more than
they had on that credit card. You typically don't reward
them with a higher limit or more money. You typically

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would stop them and say, hey, can't spend like this
because you've got to pay it back. And that's what's
not happening. The worst part about it is the interest.
A lot of people don't think about this. When you
say fiscal responsibility, some people use it as a nebulous term.
Let's bring it down to brass taps. Okay, we are
thirty six trillion dollars in debt. That means the interest

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on that is almost a trillion dollars. I think it's
just over a trillion dollars in interest that we are paying.
That money is borrowed, which means we owe it back.
It's not just money. You can't print money that causes inflation.
It's not backed by anything. So they've rated the VA,
they've rated Social Security, and we're giving billions away to

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come countries we don't have. We'd be better off letting
Zelensi borrow his own money, okay, rather than us borrowing it,
excuse me, and paying interest on it. So that's all
that's happening is we're looking like big shots. But eventually
they're going to call in our debt and we can't
pay it. It will crumble the economy, it will obliterate savings,

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it will destroy our republic. And we have got to
stop people from thinking that they can just go up
there and print money.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Amen. This is Jonathan Dunn filling in for Justin Berkley
to Justin Berkley Show, Get Involved. The number is two
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boom boom boom boom America. If we're going to survive
as a country and be the most exceptional nation we
can be, we need to get over the fear mongering.
I've watched this nation for a long time, both from
when I was living in Ireland now that I'm living here,
and oh my god, the government is shutting down. Yeah,

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eighty three percent of it still works. Eighty three percent
of a government shutdown is still working where I come from.
And maybe just because I'm back in college and learning
a lot of stuff that's not a government shutdown. I'm
with miss Ray Morrison and she if you go follow
her on social media, Raven the Conservative Warrior. She posted

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something twelve hours ago which I found hilarious. If there's
a government shut down, who will spy and me waste
my money and have contempt for me? What a question?
Who will do that? Miss Raven? Who will have contempt
for us?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Exactly? You might have to look to some of your
extended family.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
But it is Christmas time.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Well we'll find out, right.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
But yeah, and I've spent my both my parents are
retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, so I spent a lot
of time in Ireland and the Old Country. And you're right.
I mean, people don't realize they've gotten really great in
the media about sensationalizing these stuff there and they're not
doing the fact. The fact is is that you know,

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most of it, the essential, the police, the emergencies, that
all that stuff keeps going, and even Congress everybody gets
paid retro and backy. So again it's just it's it's
fear mongering, but it should. We should be having single
bills coming up to vote on you know, this putting
this thousand page monstrosity in front of people. The represents

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don't have time to read it, and then they're villainizing
the people who are going, Look, I haven't had time
to read this. There's a lot of pork in it.
And uh, although guys are traders, No, that's what we
elect them to do.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
Absolutely. And the thing about it is is that if
we're going to start solving these problems, it's not up
to this. You know, this idea of the fearmongering of
the government shutdown, that's not a Donald Trump thing. That's
not his administration. That's not even the politicians in DC.
That's me and you and everyone else. When we're around
the kitchen table next next week at Christmas, when we're

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having these conversations, oh my god, the government does shut down.
Oh no, chill, slow your role and let's have an
honest conversation about this. And that is what we need
to do. That is our responsibility. We need to be
civically engaged with people.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I agree, And what I would say is, let's take
that one further. Remember, you know this is a date.
Is it my understanding that Biden is still pretending to
be president of this country?

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Right?

Speaker 2 (14:20):
Now and Kamala, where are they on the drones? Where
are they on the billion dollars that just went to Somalia,
billions that just went to Africa. You know, meanwhile they're
talking about we have to pass this monstrosity to give
one page was allocated to farm aid and disaster relief.
And just to be clear, disaster relief is for the

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people affected by it, not the ones who created it.
So it's important to tell people that this shutdown, it's
Trump's fault. It is not Trump's fault. Trump's not in office.
So if we don't get to blame Obama when he's
not in an office, and we don't get to blame
Trump when he's not in office, So that's two different things. Either,
you know, either Biden is a mental imbecile or he isn't.

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And I tell people to side which side you want
to be on. But the reality is this government shut
down lands right at the seat of Biden. Period.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Absolutely this, you know, it's time to take responsibility and
it's time to see which side of the isle that
you fall on. And it's not a case of left
versus right, it's not a case of democrats versus Republicans.
It's a case of the elitist statists who live in
the swamp in d C versus we the people. And

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I think if we're going to be successful, we need
to delineate those lines because what you saw on DC
is you know, I'm not going to get involved in
the in the nitty gritty, but you know, I'd love
to hear when we come back from the break about
your opinions on Speaker Mike Johnson. But for me, this
is not a this is not a conservative icon. You know,
if my choice is Mike Johnson or Chip Roy, I
know what my side is on. If my choice is

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Mike Johnson or Thomas Massey, I know what side I'm on,
and because both have approven track record, one of doing
eh and the other of actually standing for fiscal responsibility,
for the Constitution, for the people, and for what made
this country an exceptional nation. Real quick, before we could
take a we have to take a heart break in

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ninety seconds, your opinion on Speaker Mike Johnson. Should he
stay or should he go?

Speaker 2 (16:23):
If this is all we're going to get from him,
he should go. I mean, this is not the American people.
We need you to stand. We need you not to
write blank checks for Biden pay raise is outrageous that
that was even allowed to go in there, and that
this omnibus was tried to cramp through the American people.
I do not agree.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
You actually brought up a great point which needs to
be addressed more, the idea that these people think they're
entitled to a pay rise. You know, it's amazing to
me that you can continuously be horrible at your job
and then go, yeah, absolutely, pay rise for me, keep
it coming, keep it coming. I work so hard for
that pay rise. Ah you have do you know how
hard it is to you're the American people constantly twenty

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four hours a day. I deserve a pay rise.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
I won't be finding out, but yeah, that is it is.
Selling out is hard work. But it pays well, so apparently.
But we've got to stay on that absolutely.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
I'm with miss Raven Morrison. She's running for you, running
from the Congress right the house.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Well we're going to be Yeah, that's the probe we're
looking at.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
And she is a conservative warrior. This is Detroit News
Talk Superstation nine ten am. This is Jonathan Dunn filling
in for Justin Berkley. Take us wherever you go. Streams
on the iHeartRadio app for nine ten AM superstation dot com. Welcome,

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this is the Justin Barclay Show. This is Jonathan Dunn
filling in for him. Take us to wherever you go.
We're on the iHeartRadio app or on nine ten superstation
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ten AM with the best lineup in conservative media. You've
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the Glenn Back program at nine am, you got Claim
Book on at twelve, you got Hannity at tree, Jesse
Kelly at six, and O'Reilly at nine. We're bringing you
the best conservative lineup with the great conservative opinion that
you can get. And I am joined this era by
missus Raven Morrison. She is maybe maybe not running for
maybe the House, maybe the Senate, or maybe some other
office she can't quite say yet. And we're just talking

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about the constitution. She is the conservative warrior. Before we
went into break, we were talking about the constitution. What
does the constitution mean to you?

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, it's a different thought for me because I grew up.
I was born in service to people, in service to
this country. And the Founding Fathers put this together. This
was their declaration of freedom. And I love to talk
about this because my dad was a big historian. He
still is, and both of them having served in the

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armed forces. We have fought for freedom. We've seen things
that most Americans don't even want to know exist, and
they have fought to keep it off these shores. So
when I hear people say, well, why do you need
a gun? The Founding Fathers hadn't finished deer hunting. They
had just finished liberating a country, and they paid a
steep price for it. You know, many of them. Some

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of them were recaptured by the British and executed, Some
had their fortunes obliterated, some had their families kidnapped and murdered.
They paid a steep price for signing their name on
these documents to protect us, and they gave it to
us to warn us exactly against the government we have
right now. This is what they tried to warn us about.

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Government overreached, the tyranny, the fiscal irresponsibility, the backwar room deals.
That's what they tried to warn us about. So what
I always say, for whether it's my parents or the
Founding Fathers, is people died. They paid a steep price
for your freedom, and the least you can do is
be worth the sacrifice they made for you. So that's

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what the Constitution means to me. It is a precious
document for people who knew what it was like to
live under tyranny, who gave us freedom. And that's why
we are not a democracy. We are a constitutional republic.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
It's so refreshing to hear you, because I get really
frustrated even with people who I know behind the scenes
and like people like Mike Lee and he'll talk about democracy.
I like, no, I'm like, come on, I know you brother,
you know, I know you know these things. You know,
Let's not just go to get the language of the day.
Let's state what we are and be proud about it,
because you know, I can say this is I grew

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up in Ireland, so I you know, I grew up
under democracy, and I long for the day that Americans
actually commuted not only just say America is not a democracy,
but where we say openly democracy sucks. Democracy is two
wolves fighting over a sheep and an every who gets
the most votes gets to eat the sheep. That's what

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democracy is, and I lived under it. It's not fun.
There's a reason I am now so proud and so
blessed to call this great name my home. And I
will fight and die for it in whatever way is necessary. Now.
I don't know how much you want to tree underpound
six six foot one guy dot fighting for you, but

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you know, not physically speaking, metaphorically speaking, I will die
for this country. I will stand for the Constitution. I
will stand for the Bill of Rights because the last
thing this guy wants, and I know I'm only one person,
the last thing I want to do is to finally
get here, after eighteen years of trying to get here legally,
to only see you become just like everyone house. That

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can happen.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
You vested in this country. You wanted to be an American.
And this is a line that the Democrats blend all
the time. But it's important first of all to remember
in the Constitution, this is what the founding fathers, they said,
a republican form of limited government. It actually says that
in the Constitution. It also says, you know, life, liberty,

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and the person who has it does not say kill
things you don't agree with. So these lines have gotten blurred, okay,
and you don't have any right to murder anything in
the constitution. Just want to put that out there. But
it's important because you vested, you paid the dues, and
I know what it means to come here. I have many,
many family and friends. But I also tell people, you

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know who like to have this argue trols love me,
but have this argument. I'm Native American, My ancestors are
native to these lands. We've been original stewards of this
land before anyone else. And again, if I can share,
so can you. But we want people who want to
come here and be Americans. If you are waving the
flag of some other country and you are taking from

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American citizens, you are not you know, investing. You are
an invader, period. And that's what we have to remind
people is the American dream should never start with breaking
our laws. You know, you have to have people who
want to be Americans. And that's what you saw come
through Ill is violent. That's what we hear in you.
It's people who want to be Americans. They don't want

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to come here and be something else. They want to
be part of what this is, and all the Democrats
have done is try to destroy it. You don't have
to believe in God, but the founding fathers did, and
they put that in to the document. So that's again
you have the freedom to choose. But they're spending their freedom.
So many of these Democrats and not all of them,
but are spending their freedom trying to take yours away.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Absolutely. And the thing about that really frustrates me, just
on a personal level, is is Americans have lowered the
barer so much because you've been beaten into submission. Like
when I become a citizen in twenty twenty seven, I'm
a resident right now and you've got to be a
resident for five years. But when in twenty twenty seven,
when I become a citizen, people say to me, oh, John,
I love you. I coun't wait till you're an Irish American.

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I might, No, I ain't gonna be Irish nothing. I'm an American,
you know, I'm like, you know what really frustrates me
is the barer is so low because you have Irish American,
you have I ain Go American, you have Italian American,
you have African American, and then no other country has that.
By the way, you know, when Italian people come to Ireland,
there's no such thing called the Italian Irish or the

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Anglo Irish or African Irish. You're Irish, same in England,
same in Europe. But you know, not only are you
beaten into submission to accept other people's prior cultures, but
then you get told you're intolerant for doing it. And
I'm like, no, we need to stop with this media
hypocrisy of America is so intolerant. You are an amazing nation,

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You are so welcoming, You are in the melting pot
of the world, and yet you don't get any credit
for it. It's so frustrating. But pivoting to another subject,
absolutely we do when it starts with people taking it back.
This isn't These are not political problems. These are cultural
problems that Americans need to set up for pivoting to

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another subject that you spoke about before the break, which
I really wanted to talk to you about, which and
it's another thing that you don't get any credit for
and actually get demonized for. You spoke about foreign eight,
the money that this this sleepy administration for the best
that's the most polite and Christian way I can call
the current administration. They're you know, sleepy sending billions overseas

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to places like Ukraine. What has to happened in DC
for not to stop.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Well, to stop again. We have to we have to
take control of the terminology. It is not foreign aid.
It is money laundering. That's what it is, plain and simple.
Anybody who believes that the billions we say we're sending
all goes to Zelensky and he is using it to
fight a war, let me just tell you there, I've

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got some beach property in the Sahara that I want
to sell you. It is nonsensical. Let me just break
it down. So we've got things for and it's nonsensical.
This is what we mean by pork in these bills,
fourteen million dollars to Afghanistan for gender studies. We've got
billions going to Ukraine, billions going to Africa. What does

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that actually mean. It means that Dolensky takes a lot
off the top. Okay, he pays his country and his
people because that's a better GDP than actually doing something
or exporting something, and then he sends the rest back
to the Democrats in different in forms of lobbying informed
the campaign donations and things like that. That is a

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statistical fact. And let me give you some verbs in
the sentences. Violinsky makes eleven million dollars a month. He
has fifteen residences mansions, one of which is in Florida,
where I currently am, and it is in Vero Beach.
It is thirty five million dollar mansion. He has three

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private jets. Okay, that's what we are talking about when
we talk about the absolutely voicing of America. Okay. And
he lobbed missiles into Russia that had that we sent him.
This is what we're talking about. We have, but we
have Ashville. I was in Ashville when that flood hit.

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I was supposed to be doing a speaking engagement and
we were stuck three days, no food, no phones, no
no contact with the outside world, and we had our
kids with us. I tell people it was scarier than
and I've been with my parents in combat zones. That
was frightening. And now they're going into winter. They're living
in tents. They were given seven hundred and fifty dollars,

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told to pay it back or they lose their land,
and some of them are losing their kids. For not
having stable housing, and it is an outrage we left.
We're not supposed to leave no man behind. We left
everybody in North Carolina behind. And this is not what
America is about. We are not taking care of our veterans.
We've got our southern border wide open, and we claim

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to be the melting pot, but yet we're taking care
of everybody else except for our own. And you're calling
him sleepy. He is a trader, okay, he is a
mentally compromised trader. And I will say that because it
is the truth. We have to speak the truth. But again,
this administration America said loud and clear that we are done,

(29:23):
okay with our trial subscription to communism, and we will
not be renewing.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Amen. Just before we have to head to the final
break of the hour, you said earlier on your boat
your parents served. Am I correct in saying that, yes,
when will we When will we fix the VA? And
I don't mean I'm one of those radicals who actually
want to get rid of the VA and just give
a voucher to the people who serve, because you know,

(29:50):
I make no palms about it. I'm pro military. I
always say thank you because just selfishly. There are many
reasons you should say, speak grateful for the veterans, but
I'm so grateful because, quite honestly, if it wasn't for
the American military, I'd speak German. You know this, this
the delusional history where Hitler would have left Ireland alone.

(30:11):
I actually know Irish people who believe that we would
have respected Irish neutralogy. Now you wouldn't have felt, you know,
I would have been a little Nazi. I would have
been in re education camps. And so I'm forever grateful.
I have a debt. I will never ever be able
to repay American military. So I'm like one of those
people that you know, if you serve, you got a vote,
you just whatever you make yourself whole again, we will

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never come close to repaying you. But here's a voucher
va vout your system, REFORMA or something else.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
It has to be completely overhauled. And I'm in both
sides of that. So thank you for that, because a
lot of people don't get to see that. My parents
missed all of I could count the number of birthdays
my parents were home for. On one hand. Both of
them had competing. My dad was a pilot nom My
mother had a master's degree in electrical engineering and business,
and I'm just telling you, I never saw them. They

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believed in this so much that it was all they
did eighteen hour days. I saw my mom fall asleep
in our uniform all the time, places that she was disrespected,
they were spit on, they were just everybody hated the
American military until they needed them. So I tell people
that a lot of these in these servicemen and those
are that's a good story. The other ones you see

(31:24):
are the ones on the street who are so damaged
by what they saw in war and that they're just
not okay and they're not going to be okay. And
right now, our BA was obliterated to pander to illegals.
That's what the Democrats that we have conclusive proof of that,
and it is heartbreaking. It is heartbreaking to see them
giving out money, cash, homes, and when I have people

(31:46):
calling me now saying that they can't even get treated
for injuries that they fought for. So that's where people
need to understand where the gratitude comes from. Because they
did what you don't have to, and they went out
there and thought, wars you don't have.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
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filling in. Get involved in the conversation. Two four eight
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(32:24):
the road wherever you go. You can stream us on
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Miss Raven, thank you so much for spending the hour
with us. And before I let you go, I just
had a couple of final questions for you. One question
I always love to ask people is what does America
mean to you?

Speaker 2 (32:45):
America is the dream, It is the ideal. I feel.
We are a blessed city, we are a blessed nation,
and it is what it means to kind of live
in in favor. You can be anything, you can do anything,
and that's what the legacy we leave to our kids.
America is the spirit, It is the patriotism and is

(33:06):
everything that came before us. We're tall because we stand
on the shoulder of giants.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I love that answer. So let's say down the road.
You happen to find yourself in DC and SI. I
know this is just pipe dream stuff here, but you know,
play along for a minute. You know you happen to
be in DC. What's your couple of issues that you
will be like? These are my issues on. These are
the hills I'm going to die on if I have to.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Well, I've got several so but I will. We'll be
making an announcement after the first of the year. But
the issue is getting the government back to running the
way it's supposed to, So that starts with Congress. Congress's
job is to make sure that that helped enforce that
border and to control the purse strings. That means we
have to eliminate waste, and we have to be fiscally responsible,

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and we have to to get back with working with
the judicial branch, which means we have to start pross
acuting criminals the one that it said against all enemies,
foreign and domestic, and we have too many domestic in
our ranks right now. So it's going to be clearing
out the dry rot and trying to push for term limits.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
You're a big Finland term limits.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
I'm a big fan of bureaucracy and term limits.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Awesome. And when this announcement may or may not come,
where would people find us?

Speaker 2 (34:24):
They would find it. Hopefully I'll be back with you
at some point, but they can find me at Ravenharrison
dot com. We'll be overhauling the site and putting up
new information, but in the meantime they can find me
on social media at Raven the Conservative Warrior.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Awesome, America, you've heard from her yourself, Miss Raven. Thank
you so much for joining us America. We have a
jam packed show for you. For the rest of a
couple of hours. We've got Speaker Election of Michigan and
at the top of the next hour we've got Steve Jason.
In the bottom of the third hour, we're going to
talk about what America and what we can do to
fix us. Because here's the thing. It's great Trump is elected.

(35:01):
It's great the Republicans have the House. But now they've
got the ball, they must do something with it. But
we're gonna ensure that happens. But also we're going to
empower you at the truth and I know this is
something Justin is very passionate about. We're going to empower
you to make Michigan great again, make America great again,
and make the American people proud again. This is the

(35:25):
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am superstation dot com bringing you the best conservative voices
in Detroit. There are so many reasons I love this country,
and if you'll injudge me for thirty seconds, I just
want to share one of the reasons that I do.
One of the reasons I love this country is because

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you've got the power structure in the Constitution. Right. You
see every other nation in the history of the world,
whether it's Ireland, England, Europe, China, Iran, Afghanistan, Asian, Persia,
ancient Egypt, always put the power at the top. It
was the same when you fought your revolution against English,
you fought against the king. Your power structure was top

(37:31):
heavy and nothing at the bottom. The idea of federalism,
the idea of American exceptionalism, the idea of the Constitution
is that the power lies with the states. You are
effectively fifty or if you're Barack Obama, fifty seven different countries,
and that the power structure, Yes, you subceed some power

(37:53):
to DC. That's Article one, Section eight. There is eighteen
clauses of power. That's it. Everything else is left to
the states. It's up for the states to decide how
they want to run their business, how they want to
do their taxation, what they want to do with their
health care, what they want to do with education. I
now joined by Matt Hall, the Speaker elect of the

(38:15):
Michigan House, and I want to talk to him. If
I may steal the cliche of the president. Speaker, what
is the plan to make Michigan great again? Because you
will live in a beautiful state, but it has been
run by tyrants for far too long. That changed the
last election. What is your plan to turn things around?

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Well, thanks for having me, and you're correct. You know,
the Michigan House flipped from a Democrat to Republican breaking
Governor Whitmer's Democrat trifecta. And what we saw for the
last two years is Democrats focusing on far left issues,
things that are way out of touch with the people

(38:59):
of Michigan. And that's why Michigan voted for Donald Trump
in a Michigan House, and what we said we would
do instead is we would focus on fixing our local
and county roads here in Michigan. We would focus on
some of the major issues affecting Michigan workers and small businesses.
You know, we have our tipping system for restaurant workers

(39:23):
has been thrown out by a radical Supreme Court and
so We're going to fight to restore that industry and
protect our restaurant workers and a sick leave policy that
actually works for the people of Michigan. We're also going
to get value for your budget, value for your tax dollars.
Whitmer's grown your state budget forty three percent. We're going

(39:47):
to rain that in and fix it.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
So let's just take an issue by issue. This obviously
is a massive issue, the tipping system. Can you for
people who are unaware, haven't exactly heard about what's going
on right now, can you just give it a you know,
thirty seconds, you know, ninety thousand feet view of exactly
what's happened and what this far left judge has ruled.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
Yeah, So the Michigan Supreme Court created a lot of
thin air that takes effect in February that would force
restaurant workers to make a fixed wage and eliminate the
tipping system in Michigan. This is expected to raise costs
twenty five percent. We're looking at probably twenty five dollars

(40:30):
for a burger at a restaurant, and we think about
twenty percent of restaurants will close because of this. So
this is a real serious issue. These are the kind
of things that need to be addressed. We ended the
House session yesterday without accent on this, and so next
year in January, when Republicans take over the House, we're
going to fight to get it done and fix.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Which stem brings me to the next big issue of
what we're seeing in your beautiful, wonderful States. People and
the Republican know this is a lame duc session, and
some people have said they're not going to turn up
to the House because it's a lame DUC session. And
you know, it's wait till January when everyone gets sworn in,

(41:13):
and ag Dana Nessl has said, uh, we're going to
arrest you if you don't turn up.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Thoughts, Yeah, you know, there's something called the separation of powers.
And Dana Nssel and the executive branch has no business
telling the legislature what to do. She's out of control.
She's built a reputation as one of the worst attorneys
general in the country, picking on every day Michigan citizens,

(41:44):
typically Republicans, and tying them up into years of litigation
and criminal charges, and most of the time losing and
getting those cases dismissed. No Michigan or deserves to be
treated that way by their attorney general using government to
punish you through lawfare. Michigan Republicans in the House next

(42:06):
year are going to hold oversight hearings looking into the
weaponization of our state government by Dana Nessel, our attorney general.
And we're going to look very closely at her budget
and rein it in because she clearly has too much
money if she's focusing on that.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
So what do you expect to find Because obviously when
you start overlooking budgets, you kind of have a sort
of inkling of this is what we're going to find
on here's like one or two areas that you think
you can coash. What what have you got that inclination
yet or because you've obviously been in the house before,
or are you going in with sort of blank slate
and kind of we'll find what we find.

Speaker 5 (42:43):
Well, I think that you're going to see that there
are all these attorneys that are working on things that
don't that are not necessary. Also, they're you know, hiring
law firms on contingency fees to fight left wing causes.
You know, one of her recent RFPs she put out

(43:04):
was to find law firms to sue the oil and
gas industry for climate change and brought in some left
wing law firms from DC and other places to try
to fight that. That's the kind of stuff we're going
to stop. We don't believe in using you know, the
Attorney General's office.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
That way, Okay, awesome. Then getting back to the economy,
because I think, you know, if I may quote Bill Clinton,
it's the economy stupid. What you have such a beautiful state,
but obviously because of the inflation over the last four years,
things have just skyrocketed out of the control. I was,
I spent some time in your state last year, and

(43:46):
it was just amazing how expensive it was. And then
with these bills coming in, you know this, if this
tip build, if you don't address that, that's that's just
going to devastate into restaurants and workers and some of
the lowest paid workers. What's your sort of economic plan
to try and put forward in the genda to say,
we want to grow Michigan. We want businesses to come
in here, we want people to invest in Michigan, we

(44:07):
want families to move here. Have you got to set
up policies in mind that you're going to advocate for.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Well, we do, and I think the first step was
stopping the bleeding, and I'm proud the House Republicans were
able to do that yesterday on our last session day.
Gretchen Whitmer and the Democrats in the House and Senate
here in Michigan, this was their first trifecta in forty years,
and they piled up hundreds of radical left wing policies

(44:36):
and they planned on running them in the lame duck session,
which is the time between the election and the start
of the Republican legislature. Yesterday, a brave Democrat, Karen Witzet,
who you might remember has had some positive things about
Trump during the pandemic. She joined us, and as you mentioned,

(44:56):
we stayed off the floor. The Democrats did have a quorum,
They did a call of the House where they tried
to find us, brought the sergeants to try to force
us to come to the floor and lock the doors
with set refused, The Republicans refused, and hundreds of bills
died yesterday and the session's over. And I'll just give

(45:17):
you a couple examples. National popular Vote failed, giving illegal
aliens drivers' licenses, tax breaks for Hollywood film credits, allowing
you to sue the gun manufacturers and gun stores if
there's a crime committed, letting violent criminals out of jail early,
and bail reform, a homeless Bill of rights, rent controls,

(45:41):
and hundreds of other bills died. There's a much more
shallow hole for us to dig out of now because
of the Republicans in the House and a brave Democrat
Karen Vidzett.

Speaker 1 (45:51):
Awesome, that's fantastic news. They are all bills that deserve
to beda down on arrival. But then to put forward
your agenda when you get back in January, have you
got sort of two or three policies that you're really
going to advocate for.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Well, I think the first thing is, you know, we
want to stop giving hundreds of millions of dollars to
these corporations through these corporate welfare programs. The Whitmer's made
bad deals and they aren't living up to the to
the promises, you know, and we want to instead invest

(46:27):
that money in our local roads and bridges. We want
to fix our local roads and bridges. We want value
for your money for your tax sellers. So we're going
to be looking at running a more efficient budget and
cutting government spending. And I think we know our long
term goal is to cut the income tax. Once we
find all that savings, we want to cut the income

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tax like other states that are growing.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Okay, awesome. Two last questions before I let you go,
because I know you're an extremely busy mount and you've
got a lot of transitions to do to get ready
for next year, to to serve the Michiganders. There's been
a couple of hot topic issues happening in your state.
Goshen up in Macosta and this issue that's going on
over there. And you because you spoke about corporate welfare

(47:13):
and getting you know, you know, Chinese businesses involved and
selling them land and on bottery plants. Where do you
stand them that issue.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Opposed?

Speaker 5 (47:23):
This is another example of these bad economic development deals
that Gretchen Whitmer has entered the state into. Not only
was it a bad deal because they gave hundreds of
millions of dollars for this electric battery plan, but it
has ties to a foreign adversary, China, who's hostile to us.
So we're going to have oversight hearings investigating foreign influence

(47:44):
in Michigan and pushing back on projects like this.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Awesome. And then last question, just because if we don't
have fair elections, we don't have a country your state
with the amount of just one issue alone on the
amount of dead people you have on your roles? Are
you going to hold the AG Office accountable and strength
start cleaning them up?

Speaker 4 (48:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (48:05):
And the Secretary of State, we have an out of
control Secretary of State Joscelyn Benson.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
You sure there will be.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
There'll be hearings and investigations into her into her abuse
of our elections process, including refusing to clean up our
voter roles.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Awesome, I love it. How can people get on such
at you, sir? If they want to let that let
you know what they what their issues are, what's most
important to them. Are you on social media?

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Yeah, we have a fight like Hall is one of
our social media things on x and Rep Matt Hall
is a way to follow me Repmathall dot com. We're
doing a lot of great work to turn Michigan around.
And thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Thank you so much, sir. This is Detroit's news Talk
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(49:09):
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(49:30):
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Speaker 4 (49:36):
Mark.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
I just want to talk to you, Michigan. I want
to talk to you just for a few minutes. Ben Franklin,
there's a famous story Ben Franklin when he left the
Constitutional Convention. I used to always share this story because

(49:57):
he was addressed by a lady, the innkeeper, and she said,
mister Franklin, sir, what have you given us? Because I
am such a constitutionist, I would go and tell that
story because I would share his answer because his answer
was a constitutional republic. It frustrates me when I hear

(50:18):
people say you're a democracy. But that story has changed
meaning for me over the last couple of years because
of what he said next. What did he say next?
He said, a constitutional republic, man, as long as you
can keep it, America. This is not a question for

(50:44):
Donald Trump. This is not a question for Speaker Elect Mahall.
This is not a question for any politician. This is
a question for each and every one of us. We
must look ourselves very harshly in the mirror and ask ourselves,
by what we do, by what we say, by how

(51:05):
we act, or even by our inaction, are we working
to keep a constitutional republic? You know? In some ways
I'm very conflicted over what I'm about to say. In
some ways I wish Americans were forced to live overseas,

(51:29):
even for a month, maybe some liberals it might take
six months. Go live in Ireland, Go try set up
a business in Ireland, Go live in the UK, go
live in Europe, go live in Asia, and try and
have the same freedoms, the same success, the same rights

(51:52):
to richest stories that we are blessed to have here,
a constitutional republic as long as we can keep it.
Are we seeking to do that or do we even care?
Is it all about the almighty dollar? Now? Is it

(52:14):
all about you know? Once I'm rich and I have
my comfy, cushy life, I'm good. If you saw what
happened last night in DC and what happened yesterday in
your great state, you should know this. Tyrants are on
the move. They don't care about lame duck sessions. Their

(52:39):
agenda to control every aspect of your life never stops.
How much are you gonna take? You see? The sad
thing about tyranny is a lot of people will wake
up when it's too late, when it is just so strong.

(53:01):
They'll wake up and they'll realize, what the hell has
happened to my country? And it's too late, America. It's
not too late to change your country. Sorry, it's not
too late to change our country. To be an American

(53:21):
still means something. If it didn't, why do illegals constantly
stream into this country? Because it means something. This country
change the world and it can do it again if

(53:43):
the people will just believe, If the people will just
rise up, break off the shackles and say I'm willing
to stand for something special. The sad thing is I'm

(54:05):
not gonna Molly Kota. You you're too old and you're
too well experienced in life to know that this is
not just something come by all experience that you know,
if we just rise up, it's all easy and we win. No,
if we are going to win, some of us are
going to lose. You know, one of the reasons I

(54:26):
said it earlier on in the first hour up my guest,
Miss Raven, I salute the American military because if it
wasn't for them, I would speak German. But you know,
one of the reasons I love the American military even
more was because the men and women who fought in
World War Two as Americans had every reason to lie

(54:48):
about their age, and you did. You could have said,
you know what, hey, I'm too young, I can't fight.
That isn't my problem, that's Hitler, that's Europe's problem. But no,
you lied about your age. You said you were sixty
when you were sixteen. You said you were eighteen going
over there, and you fought, and many of you lost
your lives because you wanted to be part of the

(55:09):
American experiment. America, if we are going to win and
win going forward, we're gonna have to stand up and
do the right thing, and it is going to require sacrifice,
but it is a sacrifice we must do if we
are going to hand any chance of freedom to our
kids and our grandkids, because they deserve the same opportunities

(55:32):
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(56:18):
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This show has all been about what seeds you want
to plant, about the future. We saw what happened in
your great state yesterday and out of control. Attorney General.

(56:41):
We saw what happened yesterday in DC, the debacle of
continuing resolutions. If we're going to turn this nation around
and turn our states around, we must be men and
women of courage. But we also must be not afraid
that when we see a great idea, to steal it,

(57:04):
to copy it, to make it better. My next guest is,
and I actually don't know how to introduce you. Are you?
I know you're currently a Representative of Kansas, but you
also won your race to become a Senator of the
great state of Kansas. Are you still technically your House representative,
mister Murphy.

Speaker 4 (57:24):
Yes, that's correct, I'm miss I'll be asive. I'll be
a representative until the thirteenth of January, which case I'll
become a senator. So I'm technically a senator elect. How's that?

Speaker 1 (57:34):
A senator elect? I like it because you know, we're
in America. We love our titles and I would not
want to miss mistitle you, sir.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Oh you know how that important is? That is to
me too? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:46):
I know, but you have take your state has taken
a great idea from President Trump and I'm so happy
because full disclosure, Michael is is like your brother is
a brother in Christ me, but is as close to
an earth brother as you can imagine. So I've got
vested interest in him doing well. And if he doesn't
do what he's supposed to do, he will get a

(58:07):
phone call from me. And he knows it. He is
going to be the vice chair. Sorry, and program and
a visit, and I will sit you down and kind
of go, sir, you're out of line, but I know
you long enough to know that won't be a problem.
But you're going to be the vice chair of a
committee in the Senate in Kansas of the Doze, the

(58:27):
what was a Division of Government Deficiency.

Speaker 4 (58:31):
The Department of the Government Efficiency, and that's that's the
federal one. Ours is going to be the committee is
a committee. Okay, so we're committ committee. Yeah, so we're
calling it Koje coach.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I love the exact I'm gonna get so confused the
Doze and the cos and I'm gonna it's I'm I'm
not smart enough to do this. So you've become the
vice chair of this and this is awesome. This We
honestly need this in every State correct or a version
of Bill.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, because it's easy to look at the federal government
because I did some research before talking to you. It's
easy and mean, you know, the numbers off and hey,
American economy thirty five thirty six trillion dollars and that,
and that's just the only problem. But we don't ever
talk about the unfunded liabilities. We don't ever talk about
the states constantly, you know, and we're so proud that

(59:19):
we've got all these red state governors in red state
houses and red state sentence. But look at them. They're
spending just as bad as these z does, just not
in trivions, but you know, their budget and the economy
is a lot smaller than America, but they're spending in
the billions, and no one seems to pay any attention
to us.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Yeah, the percentages are probably very similar. Just keep going
up and up and up, and not only not only
the spending, but also the you know, the regulations and things,
and as you said, unfunded liabilities, just just doing things
that cost people more. And so it's just it's something

(59:58):
that we're going to have to sit back and take
look at. It's kind of funny too, is the fact
that we talked about this spending going up and going
out of control, Well, who's doing it? Well, it's the legislatures,
you know. So it's not the governors aren't doing it.
I mean the governors may take advantage of it in
certain places. Some governor are certainly better than others when
it comes to that. But the bottom line is it

(01:00:20):
comes out of the legislature.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
So I use the analogy all the time. And you've
heard this analogy from me before. It's child abuse what
we do at both the state and the federal level
when it comes to spending. Like I would say if
I went and had a kid who was six months
old and went to the bank manager and said, hey,
I've got this six month old kid, give me a
credit card and his or her name. I'm going to
go spend it with mom, and then on their eighteenth birthday,

(01:00:44):
I'm going to go happy birthday. Thank you, Neil. Here's
the bill we had a blast. That will be child abuse.
But that's what we're doing at a state and federal,
at a local and every level. How can we break
this down and start because our kids and our grandkids
deserve an opportunity of freedom. We need to it doesn't

(01:01:06):
pass in the bloodstream. It'll pass by our actions and
our inactions. How can we beat people up?

Speaker 4 (01:01:13):
And the longer we wait, the worst it will be. Uh.
I actually had a meeting with a with a Democrat
the other day and visiting with them, and and they,
you know, they they seem to think that, you know,
the Republican is a conservative, we have no heart. And
I told him, I said, you know, when you go
back and you look. One of the things I recall

(01:01:34):
about Benjamin Franklin, you know, when he observed I didn't
even realize until I studied this number of years ago,
that that, you know, they had welfare in Europe back
in the eighteenth century. And so Franklin was wandering around
and he saw what it did to people. It destroyed
their ability and desire to better themselves. And he says,

(01:01:58):
I come to the conclusion that it's the it's more
important to keep people uncomfortable in their poverty than it
is to give them all that they need. And so
in many ways we're not doing the right thing for
people when we do too much for them. But also there's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Sorry we need to change them rhetoric A bet that
though as well, because if I say to you, you know,
because that really annoys me because I grew up under socialism.
We're going, oh, John, you have no heart for the
per people. I'm like, hold on, I'm the one to
volunteering happen the per people just because I go, hey,
you know what, Michael, give me your wallet and I
see you have one hundred bucks and I go, hey,

(01:02:36):
I'm not only going to take fifty of that or
forty of that. You get the rest. And then I
go give it to a per person so they can eat.
And then I get to say how compassionate I am?
In what word? Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Yeah? Not in Thomas Soul's world, that's for sure, right.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
But if we want to solve problems, we need to
get Ben Franklin's right. We don't want people and we
don't want people comfortable in poverty, but we want to
have this America story where you have rights to riches,
where it doesn't matter where you come from.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
There's a good story that that This is actually a
true story where a reporter was sent to cover a
young mother who had had a child that was born
with no arms, and so she watched as the kids struggled.
You know, he's very small. She watches the kids struggle
to feed himself and then got out of his pajamas
and was struggling to get get his clothes dressed himself.

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And the reporter got frustrated with the mother and said,
why don't you help him? And she says, I am
mm hm. You know, we just don't lots of times
don't realize that when through struggle comes strength. Absolutely, so
it's not it's and so that's just a very small
part of it. You know. We we we often do

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things in an effort to uh for the best in
the best people's best interest, you know. But government can't
do it one size fits all at any level. The
federal the federal government can't do it for the states.
The capitals can't do it for the counties. The counties
can't do it for the individual towns, you know. And
so we've got to we've got to get back to

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a little bit different way of thinking about how we
handle these things. And that's going to be a big chore,
but it's going to have to be done a little
bit at a.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
Time, absolutely, And this is a biblical principle as well,
you know, just I hate being the person that brings
the Bible and the things. But you know, again, you
know the story of you know, you can give them
out of fish every day, and then the person relies
on you to give them that fish and if something
what happens, if you get sick, or what happens if
oh my god, there's a government shut down, and or

(01:04:46):
you can teach them how to fish. That that was
teaching them how to fish. As the American story like,
how can we this is what we need to get
back to and how but how do we do it?
How do we overcome the rhetorick in your opinion? Can
as you obviously served now in the Kansas House and
now you're going to be in the Kansas Center, you're
gonna have all these conversations about committees and you're going

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to have to make some cuts. Everyone's had to make
some cuts over the last four years because of inflation.
Do you know any family that hasn't made cuts? No,
maybe you're George Soros hasn't made any coots. He's probably
made a figure on this. He's probably you know, you know,
probably bankrupt another country that we don't know about yet.
But the average Americans had to make coots, and that's

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what the government's gonna have to do. We're gonna have
to have tough conversations. How do we do that? In
your opinion, We're.

Speaker 4 (01:05:34):
Also going to have to wake people up as to
what a lot of this has been driven onto us
from the federal level, and that makes it very, very difficult.
And I was making a point to somebody the other day,
I said, you know, when you look back in nineteen
seventy one, the minimum wage here in America was was
a dollar twenty five. And everybody looks at that, said,
oh my goodness, how could you make it on a
dollar twenty five. Well, if you remember back then, now

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we had fitched by after nineteen sixty four, we'd started
adding junk metal to to our coins. But if you
look at nineteen sixty four and older, you took five
of those nineteen sixty four quarters. If you melted them
down back then, you had a dollar twenty five. If

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you melted them down today, you've got nearly thirty dollars.
So that's what there's your inflation, your minimum wage. So
in other words, somebody at minimum wage in nineteen seventy
one was far better off at a dollar twenty five
an hour than somebody is today at twenty five dollars
an hour.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Absolutely, that's the conversation we need to have. It's spending power,
not what the minimum wage is exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
And so what's happened is is we've been driven to
this point. So in some part why things have gone
up exponentially is because of federal policy and the way
they spend and the way they print. So we're going
to have to states. We not only have to sort
of tighten our belts and changing a lot of that stuff,
we're also going to have to go to the point.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
Of of.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Getting the you know, getting all this in line. So
we're because it's the states that are in charge ultimately,
but we've you know, we've given that all up to
the federal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Government absolutely, and just changing you know, just sort of
you know, sort of moving the subject study to the
to the right as well a bit as possible, and
you can share as much as you can. And because
obviously I know it's you're still your senator elect, but
you've been a big advocate for linking the dollar back
to the goals, and you've got some interesting bills coming

(01:07:37):
up and hopefully they'll get discussion and in the next legislator.
Why is that so important to you?

Speaker 4 (01:07:45):
I think we've I think we need to give people
an option. We've we've taken options away from the people
in many in many ways, and I think this will
help give people the option as far far as their
their money is concerned, to be able to protect it. Obviously,
if you if you have it in a solid asset
like gold or silver, you'll be able to protect you

(01:08:07):
protect yourself from what you know, the Fed and you
all like that does to you. So you know, constitutionally,
Article one, section ten allows states to have their own
currency as long as it's gold or silver, and the
technology exists today to be able to make it actually transactional.
So you can say you can have a debit card
that instead of having dollars in the bank, you have gold,

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and then you go when you go buy groceries, when
you go buy whatever, it just it just shaves that
much gold off. I'm being very simplistic about it, but
it's actually real gold. It's not a piece of paper
that just sit with the lager feet. You've actually got
real gold. And so when you go buy gas, you
go buy groceries or a pair of genes or whatever.
You're paying for it with gold, and so whatever money

(01:08:52):
you have sitting in there for any length of time
is going to be protected from inflation. You know, it's
not an investment, it's just a way to protect yourself
from the government's runaway spending in policies.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Awesome. This is the Justin Berkley Show. I'm Jonathan Dunn
filling in. We're on Detroit's News Talk superstation nine ten am.
Take us wherever you go. We're streaming on the iHeartRadio
app or on nine ten am superstation dot com. This
is the Justin Barklay Show. I am Jonathan Dunn filling

(01:09:27):
in on Detroit's News Talk superstation nine ten am. Take
us wherever you go, streaming on the iHeartRadio app or
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four eight eight hundred talk. That's two four eight eight
hundred talk. I'm joined by Senator elect of the Great
State of Kansas, mister Michael Murphy, a personal friend of

(01:09:50):
mine and a brother in Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Sir.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
We've spoken about the gold, We've spoken about the economy
and this show we've been talking about laying seeds. And
the problem that we have, uh is that everyone wants
to control us. We've got d C. We is out
of control. We have states which are largely out of
control trying to control our lives. And then we've got
this third group of people, the Davos people, you know,

(01:10:18):
the people who are unelected, the people who are rich
in the nearest boys club, the billionaires boys club. I
love that they meet in Davos in Switzerland, you know,
because Switzerland is a neutral country, and and they sit
around and they plot and they scheme, and they they
devil worship probably And I'm only saying that you don't
kill me, George Soros. I like living, but you have

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these people, you know, you know, and even the even
the head guy's name. It sounds like a Bond villain,
doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Charles Swab, Yeah, you and you bring and you bring
up Bond. And that's my first thought was when when
all this stuff comes about, when I first started learning
about the World Economic Forum, and all, you know, I'm thinking,
well it goes back to like Goldfinger, and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I don't like that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
But you've got this guy that wants to sit back
and he's going to rule the world. Well, there's really
there really are people like.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
That, Yes they are, and they think that because they
have made us through their corruption and their cronyism. They
didn't make it true hard work. They made a true cronyism,
true crony capitalism, which is the worst form of capitalism,
true rules and regulations. They think they're now somehow, sitting

(01:11:29):
on this ivory tower, that they have the right because
they've got living down so posted so well they can
tell you what to do. Yeah, and it's in states.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
When you go back, and you know, when you go
back in time, you see this is not really new.
You know, back in the in the early twentieth century,
you know, eugenics and population control. This is something that
elders have always believed, is that they're a little smarter,
a little bit brighter, and they want to make the
work a little bit better place by getting rid of
the people that are not like them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
M It's amazing how that always happens, isn't you dare
think different to them. It's like it's like we're so great,
we're so awesome. Honor me and then know I have
a different opinion, kill them. They can't take any competition whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
Is there really any difference between that and when we had,
you know, historically had monarchies or dictatorships. No, I mean
it's the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
Well, I think I think the difference is they now
say kill them. When we have monarchs, they like, you're
my slave.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Now, Yeah, well they kill them.

Speaker 1 (01:12:32):
There is a difference.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
They just buddy to kill them back then too.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Yeah, they just kill your soul. So for anyone who's listening,
he doesn't know, can you briefly describe what the World
Economic Forum is and you know, telling people why they
should be concerned about it? Oh wow in thirty seconds
or least.

Speaker 4 (01:12:52):
I mean it's yeah, it's yeah, it's just a you know,
it's it's people who are My grand mother who had
a sixth righth grade education, she talked about people who
were educated beyond their intelligence, and I just thought that
was just a great way to put it. There's a
lot of there's a lot of people out there that
they get taught certain ways and all like that, and

(01:13:15):
then and they get built up over their lives and
sometimes it's generational, and so you get to this point
to where they have been told that they're the greatest.
Remember the story I was talking to my wife, I
think it is yesterday, day before about the story of
the the emperor who had no clothes. Remember how how
he was told how beautiful his clothes were and he

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looked and he says, well, yeah, you're right, they're they're marvelous,
and everybody and nobody was everybody was afraid to disagree
until this one little boy looks up and says, hey,
he got the close on, you know, And we're the
same way lots of times. We're just sort of conditioned
to this make people. And I think it's it's a

(01:14:01):
little bit of it. It's propaganda, it's brainwashing, it's whatever
you want to call it. But we're willingly a part
of it. So I don't really know how you get
you know, how you get out of it, because I'll
step on the golden cow of global warming? How did

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we get to that? We were told over and over
and over and over and over and over and over again,
that's what it was, and then after a while people
start believing it even though there's no evidence that it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Right, Well, at the top of the next I'm going
to give America some solutions of what they can do
because I've I've given you the bad news and now
I'm going to give you the hope. Michael Murphy, thank
you so much for joining us. How can people get
in touch at you and if others, you know, if Michigan,
you know, if certain a speaker elect who we had
on at the bottom at the top of the air
is listening and sort of going, hey, that cos is
a good idea. How can people get in such at

(01:14:57):
you to take, you know, take your idea and make
it happen in the or States.

Speaker 4 (01:15:02):
You could email me, I suppose I've got my email?
Is I like Mike the number four ks at gmail
dot com?

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
Repeat that the first time.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
Is I like Mike for the number four ks at
gmail dot com?

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Mike, thank you so much for sticking with us. This
is the Justin Barklay Show. I am Jonathan Dumb Detroit's
newser This is the Justin Barclay Show. I am Jonathan

(01:15:53):
Dum pulling in for Justin as he takes a very
very well deserved Christmas break to spend time with him
with his family. This is Detroit's news Talk Superstation nine
ten am. Take us wherever you go. You can stream
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(01:16:14):
That's two four eight eight hundred eight two five five.
This is the show that the lineup that is bringing
you the best conservative voices in Detroit. You got Justin
at six, Glenn at nine, Claim Bucket twelve, Hannity at tree,
Jesse Kelly at six, and O'Reilly himself at nine. America
brought to you a lot of different voices today, brought

(01:16:39):
to you someone who's potentially running for Congress. Brought you
the speaker elect of Michigan, brought you a Senator elect
from Kansas to talk to you about the issues. We've
spoken about out of control attorney generals. We've spoken about
chaos in DC. It's easy to look at DC, look

(01:17:07):
at your great say to Michigan, look at the World
Economic Forum, look at all the tyranny on the rise,
on the go, and have no hope. I want to
give you some hope. You see one of the frustrating
things for me, and one of the things I try

(01:17:27):
my hardest to do. Not making it about me is
I try and encourage, if nothing else, try and encourage
and inspire Americans to wake up because of your politicians
on both sides of the aisle. This is not a

(01:17:49):
left or right or you know, Democrats bad and Republicans good.
I'm not that guy because I just, quite honestly, full disclosure,
I despise a lot of Republicans as much as I
despise the Democrats. I see what they do. I've been
around DC. I've been behind the scenes. I've seen it
a close and personal. I've seen your media belittle you.

(01:18:15):
I've seen your media and your politicians. I know what
they say about you behind the scenes. You're nothing but
a pesky little rodents who just won't go away. I've
heard people saying, you know, the American people don't realize
how lucky they are to have me as their representative,
of me as their senator, or me as their president,

(01:18:39):
and if they would just get in line and kiss
the ring, everything would be better. I don't love America
because of your politics. I don't love America because of
DC or because of the state houses in all fifty states.

(01:19:00):
I love America in spite of it. When I say America,
it's time to wake up. When I say in America,
it's time to unshackle yourselves. I mean not lisually because
of the rules and regulations that are put on you,

(01:19:21):
but I mean it figuratively as well. It's time to
wake up from your collective coma. It's time to be
proud to be an American once again. Now I know
some people will listen to well, I'm proud because Donald
Trump won't great, wonderful, But don't make your pride because

(01:19:46):
one person won one election on one day. Your pride
in America shouldn't be about politics. It should be about
who you the people are. You know, It's amazing to me,

(01:20:10):
just on a personal level. I wish I had one superpower.
Americans could see the country through my eyes. It's amazing
to me the opportunities this country has presented me. I'll

(01:20:31):
never forget when I first got my first job in
the media, working for The Blaze, doing a weekly show
about American exceptionalism. Someone very close to me in my
own immediate family said, who the hell is going to
listen to you? Well, a lot of people did. I
have been blessed in this country with opportunities to talk

(01:20:54):
about something I love. So if I may ask you
to humbly take a seat, get comfortable and be allow
a humble, Irish guy to remind you just who the
hell you are, because it is time to wake up America.

(01:21:22):
Your history is built around one catchphrase, and it is
making the impossible possible. I talk to people behind the
scenes and they go, John, I listen to you at times,
and quite honestly, been honest, I get scared and I go, yeah,
me too, because what I say and what I actually know,

(01:21:46):
the situation is a lot worse. I see people people
talk to me and kind of go, John. I look
at DC and it's how are you ever gonna fix
thirty six trillion dollars? I know it's scary, John, How
are we ever going to solve Davos? The World Economic Forum,
the great research where people are openly telling you who

(01:22:08):
they are, you will own nothing and be happy. How
can we stop it? The simple answer is by being Americans,
by remembering just who you are and who your generations overcame.

(01:22:33):
Go to your founding. Let's just start there. You were
a bunch of farmers of pilgrims who dared say no,
not in my name, and you would the audacity to
stand up to the king. Your signers of your declaration

(01:22:55):
of the Independence didn't sign the declaration of independence by itself.
They signed their own debt warrant. They knew by putting
their name on us, this was their debt warrant, and
it was a heill they were willing to die for.

(01:23:17):
But it wasn't about what the king was read the
declaration of independence. It wasn't about why the king is
horrible and why we need change. No, your founding of
this nation was not about what you're against. It was
about what you were for. We are for all men,

(01:23:39):
all men created equal, and that we all have certain rights,
and we can discuss those rights, but they don't come
from government.

Speaker 6 (01:23:47):
They don't come from a king, a queen, a bureaucrat.
They come from your creator, and those rights, those rights
are universal for everyone, and it is the government's job
not to give rights or take rights, but to defend
those rights. You had that audacity at the founding of
this nation to say this is our mission statement, and

(01:24:13):
you won.

Speaker 1 (01:24:17):
I wish I could go into future stories, but just
let me share one more story to remind you of
who you are. It's why I am so in love
with this country. In the sixties and the seventies and
the eighties, communism was growing and spreading at a massive

(01:24:41):
rate in Europe. You might have heard there was a
wall built somewhere in Europe. And all the voices, you know,
all those voices that we love, all the media and
politicians who are just so smarter than the rest of us.
Do you know what they were saying when in your
media had the audacity to say, let's not get involved

(01:25:03):
in that. Let us I would much rather live on
my knees than die on my feet. We have people
saying we just need Russia to stay there. But once
they stay there, we're okay. What we need is to

(01:25:26):
accept a democratic form of socialism. Once we can get
Soviet Russia and Europe and Eastern Europe to agree to that,
everything's okay. What did Americus say when you had presidents
like Jimmy Carter and rit Nixon, Well, what we need

(01:25:49):
is the tant We'll hide behind the tent. The tent
is great, We'll come up with these fancy slogans, we'll
run it as propaganda. Hey, we'll never do anything because
you know, mad mutually assured destruction. The President came and said, no,

(01:26:15):
not in our name. That person is Ronald Reagan. Just
to show you the power of a speech, and to
show you the power of the bureaucrats, he wrote his
own speeches and he wrote the line, mister President, tear

(01:26:42):
down this wall. And as General said, you can't say
that you're gonna stir in the World War. Man, you're crazy.
You're nothing but an actor. Trust the experts, he said,
put the line back in, went back and forth. He's
driving in his limousine in the motorcade to give this speech,

(01:27:06):
and he's looking over the final draft and those words
are yet again missing. He ad libbed them on the day,
and guess what happened, mister President, tear down this wall.

(01:27:26):
When from a catchphrase or a slogan or a fancy
speech to action. It didn't require the military, it didn't
require America's superpower, it didn't require generals. It was an idea.
People got around and the wall fell. I tell you, America,

(01:27:49):
some of may you may share my belief, some of
you may not. I believe we are entering the time
of miracles, and all we need to do is beloe
leave and follow what we are supposed to do and
act the right way. This country shouldn't be afraid of anything.

(01:28:12):
It shouldn't be afraid of anyone. Anytime this country pauses
has hesitation should be a case of let us remember
who we are. Let us remember what we have done.
Where the country that has explored everything from the swamp

(01:28:36):
to the stars. We're the country that won World War two.
Where the country that overcame slavery. We're the country that
had the roar in twenties, that sent a man to
the moon. And we're the country that changed the way

(01:29:00):
the world acts and lives to its very core. If
it wasn't for America, the world would probably be still
pooping outside in an out house. And I don't know
about you, but I'm a massive fan of indoor plumbing,

(01:29:22):
especially if I was in Michigan where I heard the
news reports the high today is thirty five. Indoor plumbing
is awesome. But these are the things we need to remember.
Let us not worry about our obstacles. Let us not
worry about who we are against. Let us worry instead
of what we are for and who is on our side.

(01:29:45):
And if we act like George Washington said, like it
depends on us, and pray like it depends on God.
We will revive this nation and we will enter a
new era of parity. This is the Justin Barclay Show.
I am filling in Jonathan dun Take us wherever you go,

(01:30:06):
Stream us on the iHeartRadio app or at nine ten
am superstation dot com. Welcome back. This is the Justin
Barclay Show. I am Jonathan Dumb filling in for him.
The phone number is two four eight eight hundred Tuck.
This is Detroit's news talk superstation nine ten am. Take

(01:30:27):
us wherever you go at the You can stream us
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a nine, claim Book at twelve, Honey to a Tree,
Jesse Kelly at six on a Riley, finishing out the
day at nine pm. America. We need to believe in

(01:30:53):
ourselves again, and let's call a spade a spade. Let's know, spinet, Honestly,
what we need is some strong positive propaganda. You know
what truly upsets me is when I talk to the kids,

(01:31:15):
when I say kids, people under twenty five who just
believe America is just another nation. Look, you don't have
to love America the way I do. You may listen
to me and kind of go, I disagree with you,
hear every policy. That's okay. You can't deny history unless

(01:31:38):
you're in the believer of rewriting history books. When I go,
when I give speeches a different place, they always use
to give a challenge to people. I'd say, pick any
section of society. Don't let me influence you. Pick any

(01:31:59):
section of society, travel, entertainment, agriculture, you pick. It can
be some of those, there can be something else. And
then just do five minutes research on the advancements from
that era of zero AD till eighteen hundred AD, and

(01:32:24):
then look at it from eighteen hundred AD to today.
Why is it there is so much more advancement in
the last two hundred years than the prior eighteen hundred
You can't deny history. It's because of America. But it's

(01:32:45):
not just because Americans. There are Americans and were better.
It's because what happened in this country was we unleash
the energy and individual genius of man to a greater
extent than it has ever been done before. We said,
you can do anything where I come from, where my
old country. Oh, you don't come from the right background,

(01:33:11):
you don't have the right education, you don't come from
the right class system. That still exists. There are parts
of the world where organized marriages are still a thing.
There are parts of the world where before you were born,

(01:33:32):
the minute you were conceived in the womb, your future
job is preordained for you. Oh you're the firstborn of
the family. Uh, I know what you'll be. You'll be
a doctor. Oh you're the second born, you'll be a lawyer.
Oh you're the first girl, You'll be a nurser teacher.
That still happens. I'm not talking about eighteen hundreds or

(01:33:54):
seventeen hundreds or nineteen hundreds. I'm talking about twenty twenty four.
In certain parts of the world. That still happens. But
America is the great Satan, right. America is the evil, vile,
racist nation that opposes people. Is the hegemony that destroys

(01:34:16):
every other culture. American we need some propaganda to outwit
and outperform the propaganda from the left, from the phony Republicans,
from the crony capitalists from the World Economic Forum that
says you will own nothing and be happy. We'll say no,

(01:34:38):
we will achieve and aspire and create and innovate what
we want. And yes, that may mean we get rich,
it may mean we will fail, but we are going
to do it ourselves because we're Americans and we can
do anything or you can give up. The only guaranteed

(01:35:02):
outcome you have with everything I have said is to
do nothing and lose. What I dare challenge you is
is break off those shackles, Do something, and you might
just win. This is the Justin Barklay Show. I am
your host, Jonathan Dunn. You can catch us at nine

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is two four eight eight hundred Talk America. I've been
challenging you all day to break off the shackles and
to try and remember just who you are. Before I
get to my next guest, Steve, I want to ask

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you just two questions, just to ponder. You see where
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Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Join me for the Glenbeck Program weekdays at nine right
here on nine ten eight. You have two choices. The
first question is this this enemy, and it is an enemy.
There is nothing more than the Wizard of Oz. It

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looks tough, it talks tough, and it has a mirage
of propaganda that says, don't mess with me. But I
challenge you to believe that this myth, this is nothing
but a lie, and it's like the powerful Wizard of
Oz that when you pull back the curtain there's nothing there.

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And the second question is this, even if it is powerful,
what do your kids and your grandkids and future future
prosperity deserve. Do they deserve a generation that is living
today that stands up and says not in my name?

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Or do they deserve a generation that said, yeah, kid,
we had a good but I enjoyed the comfort too
much and I did nothing. And this is the remnants
of the greatest country in the world. And congratulations you
get to live in it. Choose wisely, America, because what
you do or what you do not do, will determine

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the future. I'm now joined by Steve Dace. How you doing, brother?

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Hey man, It's always good to be on in my
home state of Michigan. So Merry Christmas and go blue
to everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:38:14):
Right, Merry Christmas to you too, and congratulations. I saw
on Twitter earlier on you've done what two hundred and
forty six shows this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Year, two hundred and forty one two hour shows and
then another two hundred and thirty five or so overtime
kind of bonus supplemental programs. So yeah, we've talked an
awful lot this year.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
Yes, what's witch you use? Slacker? Steve? I wanted to
have you on because I appreciate you, your honesty, your candor,
and also I think you're one of the few people
I know who gets it. We have a chance right now,
and I just want to talk true. I've been appealing
to the America, the audience today to break off the

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shackles of tyranny and to see we have an opportunity
and start planting the seeds, not for just tomorrow, but
for two years, three years, four years, ten years down
the road, and what we're going to hand off to
our kids and our grandkids. We only have a respite
right now with Donald Trump. This bottle is far from
over correct.

Speaker 3 (01:39:16):
Correct, and really it's up to what happens now will
determine if it was, if it's a respite or not.
I mean, we if we take advantage of this and
that we actually starts with Donald Trump. He is king
of the Republican Party, he's President of the United States.
He's going to set the tone. That doesn't mean it's
all on him, but you know, the creation operates on

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the principle of headshift, and he's at the head of this,
so he'll set the tone. But if we take advantage
of this moment, then I think it's possible, you know,
ten years or so from now, well, we'll look back
at this election cycle as the Gettysburg of the of
this round of culture war, the moment when the other

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side threw everything at us, literally the cultural war equivalent
of a pickets charge, and we held the line and
turn the momentum around. If we don't take advantage of it,
it'll barely be a commercial break on the Highway to Hell.
That's up to what happens now, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
Up to us.

Speaker 1 (01:40:20):
So what, in your opinion do we have to do now?

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
Well, I'm gonna you know me, I'm fine with contrarian takes.
So I know a bunch of people have their panties
and a bunch fact I'm about to write about this
and post it on Twitter this morning here in just
a minute about you know, one of my best friends
is Congressmanship Roy and him and President elects Trump are
going to war right now, back and forth and primary challenges.

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I'm actually encouraged by this, and I want to explain
to your audience why because this because governing is messy,
and for the first time, I think the Republican Party
the people that want to control it, with Trump representing
the new emerging populism ship representing the movement conservatism that

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has long been abandoned by the party. These two entities
are now serious about governing. We had not been serious
in the Republican Party, Jonathan, about governing since the Contract
of America, Since the Contract of America. That was our
last attempt really to reel in the leviasent and govern

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for the people on the right. If you want to
give George W. Bush some accommodation for nine to eleven
and say, you know, best laid plans were clearly altered
after such a cosmic event, I'll grant that. But other
than that, the Rightness has not been serious about it.
And frankly, Trump was not serious enough about it in
his first term. He was unwilling to admit that he

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didn't know what he didn't know. I think the behavior
you're seeing from him, the vision you're seeing from him,
that the policy specification are indicative of the fact he's
now learned some of those lessons. And so I think
this is actually a very healthy fight. It is one
that needs to be had. I think people need to
get their panties out of a bunch. I think they

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need to buckle the chin strafts tighter, all right, and
pulled a bit, you know, pull up their big boy bridges.
Right after they got done beating the Red Coats, the
founding Fathers turned on each other and it was brutal
and it was vicious. And this is how great nations
are forged and sustained. And I think the argument here

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is long overdue. It's really the argument I was hoping
the last primary would have, and it just never did.
It got canceled because of the law fair against Trump,
and people rightly at that point just said, listen, we
can't let them dictate. We can't let our enemy dictate
who our candidates are going to be. I just cannot happen. Okay,
but now we have to have an art. We have

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to have a debate, Jonathan, And you know, the Church
fathers argued Paul had falling out with people. Paul rebuked
Peter at the at you know, at a conclave. I mean,
you're we're dealing with alson males, We're dealing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:13):
With he said, get behind with Satan. Correct.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
So I think everybody just needs this, stop this paro
clutching and everything else and let the great men fight
this out.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
There needs to be some ground rules, and that's that's
one of the things I'm going to write about here
in a moment on Twitter and Trump instantly jumping to
the let's primary Chip Roy. First of all, you wouldn't
beat him anyway. Chip Roy out reformed Donald Trump and
all tenanted counties of his district. Okay, he's more popular
than Trump. Okay, But jumping right to let's primary, Chip Roy,
But we're not going to primary Lindsay Graham or Jony

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Ernstuer literally blocking my administration. That's just dumb. Okay, Yeah,
don't do that, all right, But that doesn't mean that
that that Trump is wrong. You know, I even told
Chip last night. Chip is one of my best friends
in the world. But there have been plenty of times
over the years of our friendship I've actually sided with
Trump over tip. I mean, the whole dead ceiling thing

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is stupid. We've raised it over one hundred times. It's
not as if that's the Dylan mulvaney of debt ceilings. Jonathan,
It's not real, okay. And Trump is correct that all
the debt ceiling will do is the Democrats, after spending
the last four years disregarding it, will now suddenly use
it as a tool against him for the next four years.
He's right about that, okay. So on the other hand,

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Ship is also correct, we cannot sustain anymore of what
we of the path we are on. So I think
what actually needs to happen before we start arguing how
how many cuts are good and what's a clean cr
I think we all actually need to take a step
back here. Benjamin Franklin kind of a moment all right
at the Constitutional Convention, and I think we need to

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take a step back here and say, you know what,
in the end here we're all on the same side.
Doesn't mean we're going to agree, doesn't mean we shouldn't
even disagree vehement late, okay, but we've got no chance
to govern here is if the first time there is
sharp disagreement from great men, we jump right to pro
you know, let's just go ahead here and you know,

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kill each other. That's never going to work, and the
other side is just going to sit over there, wait
us out, and then when we're done fracturing, they're going
to take over and finish us off.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
I completely agree. It's this is why I wanted to
have you on. We need voices or reason full disclosure.
I'm not a big fan of raising the debt ceiling
unlimited to twenty twenty seven. I think that's that's crazy.
I do see Donald Trump's point in it. But at
some point, and we've discussed this over the years that
we've had We've I've interviewed you where at some point,
this debt ceiling, this the crowds are coming home to roost.

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We are going to go into insolvency.

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
I agree that this. This is why both sides need
to here listen to each other. Yes, Trump is correct,
he needs to govern in the next four years. He
is correct that the whole debt ceiling is and it's
just used as a political tool and we'll to use
against him. That is correct. However, you know Ship's been
at this fight longer than Trump has been, and Ship
is correct, we do not significantly add to any more

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of this. We're gonna lose. This is what Elon Musk
is preaching about. Is exactly what Ship is saying.

Speaker 1 (01:46:17):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
I think that's why right now both sides need to
cool down and actually see where they're coming from and
understand that first, and then they can hash it out
and stab each other in the throat about the best
way forward. I think they both don't understand each other.
And and I think this is kind of a metaphor
for the entirety of the right. Is you know, this

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is this is typical of new movements, Like that's what
MAGA is. You start as an insurgency. You always start
out as a pilgrim, but sooner or later you have
to become a puritan. Okay, sooner or later you're done fleeing.
And now we got to start, you know, doing our
own thing. And you know, we shifted the paradigm, but
we're the paradigm now and we have to govern right.

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And so you're seeing Trump's movement go from memes and
trolls and all those things they capably and effectively did
to destabilize a system that needed it, and now they're
going to have to Now you're seeing them take the
leap kind of an adolescence politically, you're seeing them take
the leap now and how to actually govern?

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
And I think what people like Ship need to realize,
to be fair to my friend, is yes, you've been
right for a long time, but a lot of the
people you're talking to have not been at this for
a long time, and they've only woken up in the
last few years, and frankly, Trump woke a lot of
those people up. Okay, and so you have to When

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I say going at him doesn't work, I don't mean necessarily.
I don't mean that in a drifty way. While it's
bad for your engagement, I don't give a crap about that.
It's that a lot of people that we need that
just woke up. He's their hope. Yeah, okay, And so
going right at him makes you feel like you're going
right at them, when if they heard what you were
trying to say, you explained it to him, they probably

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agree with you.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
So I think both sides just need to take a
deep breath, actually realize where they're coming from. And then
we're kind of like a step ahead here, Jonathan. We're
having a fight over a process of how to move
forward before both sides actually understands what it truly is
we're actually fighting about. And this is the but this
is the vacuum of leadership that the post Contract with

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America Republican Party has provided. It existed to do nothing
other than to shake down, you know, interests for corporations
and you know, fake out conservatives, and so now the
serious people are in charge and they're having a fight
about where to go next.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
So obviously I'm gonna ask you a question. It's it's
a lot more nuanced and you can share as much
as you want on it. But Speaker Johnson, does he
stay or does does he have to go? Because you know,
I see the adults in the room, but I also
see a lot of people who shouldn't be there as well.

Speaker 3 (01:49:00):
I think again, Mike Johnson, Kevin McCarthy, these are all
constructs of a system. They're part of a hydra. Okay,
And I think when you have someone who is everybody
in politics is transactional, even the principal people, right, Chip
has been willing to give and take on things, get
what he wants. None of us are dictators. We can't

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just be completely and singularly principled and cut and dried.
You're one of four hundred and thirty five people. You're
a president of three hundred and seventy million people, right,
There's going to be some transactional stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:49:33):
Trump is primarily not singularly. He has clear principles, but
he's primarily transactional because he comes from the business world.
And so I think Trump sees Mike Johnson as kind
of a useful idiot, gotcha, and he'll just essentially do
whatever I want him to do. And so Mike Johnson
will be there as long as his stock is useful
to Trump, and he won't be there the minute that

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that stock is, you know, is of no use. Trump
will just you know, so cut the fat and move on.
I think Mike Johnson is largely irrelevant. What I truly
think happened here is I think that the Trump plan,
and it's a smart plan. I think the Trump plan
was to go ahead, you know, and just realize Mike

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Johnson is weak and let he was just gett a
cave on this all anyway, So let's just get this
out of the way now before Trump takes over, so
that he doesn't have to have an immediate budget fight.
The minity takes office, and he can go to war
about getting people like peak HEADSS and R. K Junior
in cabinet positions and uses political capital on that. It's

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a good plan, Okay. I think what happened is two
days ago, Elon Muskin the bak Ramaswami just kind of
blew that plan up organically by by what they did
on Twitter about that monstrous omnibus bill, and I think this,
I think this is the I think what happened is
Trump's base got ahead of him and that's why you

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saw Trump kind of quite about this budget fight all
week and then suddenly just announced he was against it
after the critical mass had built. Yes, and so now
now that you know, you know the king, you know,
saw which way his court was going and said, Okay,
I guess we got to go that way. Well, now
now that that plan was blown up, I think they're
trying to figure out what to do instead. So this

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is a whole new round of negotiating, except this one
is not Mike Johnson negotiating in secret with Hakeem Jeffries
and Chuck Schumer. This one's happening very publicly.

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
Awesome, we'd be right back there. I want to talk
to you about the future of the media and what
we can do to rein nice the American dream. This
is the Justin Barklay Show. This is with Steve Dace.
This is Jonathan Dom and we are on Detroit's news
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This is the Justin Barklay Show. I am Jonathan dumb
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the Steve Day Show on the Blaze. Steve, We've got
three minutes, and I just wanted to talk to you

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real quick because one of the things that as an
immigrant I got really troubled by is Americans not believing
in themselves that we have been You've been so beaten down,
so oppressed, so told by the propaganda of both left
and right and the media that you can't do anything
without us, that you need us as politicians, that you

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need us as the elite. In Davos. I believe we're
about to be entering a period of miracles, and I
believe if we can wake up and just remember a
fraction of who Americans are, we will start seeing miracles
and start seeing things turn around. Taughts agree, disagree.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
I think we're going to find that out. I'm reminded
of a conversation that I had about ten years ago
with new gingrich Uh and he mentioned that his greatest
fear was that even if we could get someone elected
into the White House who would disrupt things and earnestly
try to return power back to the people, that the

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Leviathan had grown so much, people become so reliant on
it that we couldn't govern ourselves even if we tried,
and that that may be the answer here. Sadly, I mean,
you go a generation and surrender your institutions to Marxists,
that there's gonna be a there's going to be a calculus,
There's going to be a consequence of that, Jonathan, But

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I think we need to find that out right and
I and I think that's what this moment is about. This,
this moment basically is a Gideon's fleece moment. And are
we now going to be the ones who are going
to answer that call or not? And if we don't,

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then we'll have no one to for ourselves.

Speaker 4 (01:54:01):
And this will be the.

Speaker 3 (01:54:02):
Saddest decline of an empire superpower in human history, because
it won't come at the expense of foreign power that
emerged that was greater than this one. We would be
the first one that ever just kind of gave up.
You just quit, just gave up, and just quit on ourselves.
But I think that's the timeline, that's what this is about.

Speaker 1 (01:54:23):
But I think the timeline also mutches will because if
you go from sixteen twenty to seventeen seventy six to
one hundred and fifty years, we've probably had about one
hundred and twenty years of progressive rule of the you know,
going into it in the future. I think we turned
things around, but it has to be believed and spread
in propaganda style, but honest propaganda. Steve, thank you so

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much for joining us.