Making It in Michigan Again? Mike Rogers Celebrates Stellantis $13 Billion Investment 10-17-25

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mike Rogers was running for center former congressman here and
of course an extensive national security background too. Hey, you know,
I got to ask you about a couple of these things.
So let's let's get to the shutdown in a second. First,
let's start with Bolton. This is kind of serious business,
isn't it. I mean, you got the Espionage acton I
just you know the other thing I read too SARS
that day that apparently I Ran had hacked into his

(00:23):
email and he had some sensitive stuff in his email
and that was up for grabs.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome in, justin, Thank you so much. It's great to
be here. This is exactly why they have standards like
you cannot use unclassified channels to communicate classified material. Well,
I'll tell you a quick story. I got a phone
call when I was chairman of the House Intelligence Committee

(00:49):
back in twenty fourteen, and the FBI called and said, hey,
we need to come talk to you. And by the way,
like a whole passl people showed up. The CIA was there,
the NSA was there, and what they were concerned about
is that a third nation had gotten into our committee's
low side, meaning non classified network, Meaning a staff member

(01:11):
was texting on on their you know, their regular phone
outside of the skiff, and the Russians had gotten into
it and through that they very patiently were able to
get conversations between me and the NSA director And it
was only scheduling matters, so it was non classified. But
it shows you the length that they will go and

(01:33):
why you don't You don't just you don't put classified
material on these, uh, you know, the things that aren't
cleared for classified material. And apparently according to what the
indictment says, it may be up to thousands of pages
of documents, which is very very concerning.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
And look, he knows better. I mean that this is
not a simple mistake. This is someone who knows better,
has made comments about other folks who have done things
or he had questions about previously. This is somebody who
knows better. This is not a simple little mistake. Here
are you talking about? You know, I just talked about this,
But this is you can try it, and MSTNC wants

(02:15):
to do the best seen it will maybe want to
do their best to try and blame Trump out for this.
But a grand jury in Maryland had to indict this guy.
It wasn't Trump.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Oh no, exactly. I mean, it's pretty devastating when you
get this kind of you know, amount of documents. And
I'm sure that's what grand jury saw was the sheer
volume of what he was sending, and it's you know,
that premise of are you allowed to do it? Well?
Clearly know the law is very clear on this. Did

(02:49):
you understand what you were doing was illegal? Clearly this
He's spent his life in national security. So that's what
I think is so concerning.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Speaking of which, and this has been something that we've
been talking about for a while, and I just don't know,
you know, we just talked to Congressman Heisinger, who's got
this bipartisan bill he's got with Congressman Peters from California,
no budget, no pay. I kind of like this idea.
There's a ike cut. Like I said, I'm gonna call

(03:18):
it the Schumer shutdown anymore. I call it the Schumer shakedown.
After everything we've seen, the list, the laundry list of
things that Speaker Johnson has gone through the other day
listing out that they want to make some sort of
a deal here just to go on and do a
cr that only lasts for a couple of weeks. That's
to continue things that they've voted for in the past

(03:39):
is insane to me. We question why he's doing it.
But in the midst of all of this, it's Americans
that are being hurt. And of course it goes on
any longer, it's going to get really serious. But that
just shows you how important the Senate is.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I think right now, I guess I completely and by
the way they voted justin ten times to keep the
government shut down that they is the Democrats. It's Chuck Schumer,
and Chuck Schuber came out and said, hey, the longer
this goes, the better for us Democrats, the better for
our politics. And if you think about how horrendous that is,

(04:13):
law enforcement getting paid are service members probably not going
to get paid. There's somebody right now counting on their
Social Security check that's snagged up somewhere, and the people
who are assigned to help them get that Social Security
check in the mail or in their bank I can't
show up for one, and so they're not getting paid.
And it's just wrong to hold America hostage so that

(04:37):
they can send money on LGBT programs overseas, which is
what's part of they've been asking for and illegals getting medicaid.
This should be the easiest answer. They say, well, that's
not what it does. We'll then vote for it. Then
why are you, why are you? Why are you dragging
your feet? If that's your problem, then vote for the extension.
You can talk about it. And the other one is

(04:58):
they don't want able body to mirror Americans to have
to work twenty hours a week to get their benefits.
And by the way, it's twenty hours a week and
they're able body. These are not people who can't work,
you know, seniors, pregnant women, children, they're all. That's what
medicaid was designed for. We're trying to protect that and

(05:19):
all of these other add ons, like able bodied folks
who just don't want to go to work and illegals
who are getting and they say it's over two million
illegals are getting medicaid. It just makes no sense. And
they're hoping that people aren't paying attention, and they're blaming
Republicans And that may be the most cynical politics I've

(05:40):
heard in a very long time. And I called for
last year. Matter of fact, I think it was on
your show justin last year. I said, if Congress doesn't
get a budget done by October first every year, which
is when the fiscal year ends, they Congress should not
get paid, not anyone else. They should all get paid.
But it's Congress's responsibility. They shouldn't get paid. And guess

(06:00):
who's getting paid, by the way, the only one is
getting paid or Congress. So I mean, all the incentives
are wrong. We need to realign Congressional interests along with
American interests.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
It's been a big in fact week couple of weeks
here for President Trump. We saw here in Michigan. In fact,
I know you love this Stilantis announcing thirteen billion dollars
of investments. Tariffs are working. They're bringing work and of
course jobs back, investment back into the United States. That's massive.
There is a one point that Stillantis was talking about

(06:33):
leaving all together. So that's huge. We see this massive
piece still done. Of course in the Middle East. Pray
that that continues to hold. That's a big one. And
now the President is working on Russia and Ukraine and
of course Lensky I think meeting today and then they
have a possible meeting with Putin a little bit later

(06:54):
on down the Road. This is his next big piece.
But there's so much happening, all at once and all
in the mettle of this. Which I think is kind
of interesting, is this little protest they've got planned for
tomorrow called No King's Day. And I don't know about you,
but a former Congressman, Mike Rodgers on with us right
now running for Senate, but this is maybe the most
effective yet. We haven't had a king in two hundred

(07:14):
and fifty years. It's wild.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Well, I know, it is just shocking to me that
they say, when we're engaged in the implementation of democracy
and our constitutional republic that somehow and they don't like
the outcome, that means that he's a king. And it's
really concerning to me that many people would get schnookered

(07:37):
into going out and standing and waving a sign that
says no Kings. And I ask you for what when
you think about it, You're right. We've got peace in
the Middle East, maybe the best opportunity since nineteen forty
eight to bring peace in that region to all parts
of the region. The Abraham Accords now is being talked
about extended that will bring widespread peace. Our Arab League

(07:59):
partners be signing that, or hopefully we'll be signing that.
That's all leadership by Donald Trump that brought us there.
And guess what, workers in Michigan who are suffering under
Biden inflation, remember all that inflation that Biden did over
four years. The president's trying to get that right. And
he's only been there whatever it is now, eleven months

(08:20):
or ten months, and he's working on it. And one
of the big ways was to bring gas prices down.
And guess what came down first? Gas prices were starting
hopefully to get that under control. But Biden inflation has
kill you. And so what did the president do. We've
got no tax on overtime, which is about three million Michigan.
Michigan Anders are going to enjoy for their family more

(08:42):
money in their pocket. Waitresses and waiters across the state
are going to see no tax on tips. And then
don't underestimate what amount that is. And if you're, by
the way, a gig economy worker and you tip the
guy now at uber and lyft, guess what they get
to put that in the pocket. They're the one working
all day. Why should the government have their hands into that.

(09:04):
This is going to have real consequences of real money
in your pocket, and the Democrats are out there protesting.
And the last bit on this just because it's so important.
And I did some rural hospital visits last week justin
and rural hospitals are really really important in so many
communities across Michigan. There was a fifty billion dollar fund

(09:25):
that was put in there to make sure that rural
hospitals are okay so they can continue to provide service
in rural Michigan. And by the way, the Democrats are
opposed to all of that. If you can answer me
that one, Batman, I have no idea what these people
are thinking. I don't really think they care about working
people anymore. They've walked right by that, you know, their

(09:46):
longingly look at the two coasts, and apparently the folks
in the Democrats in the state fake that California New
York is doing this right. I can't believe that they
want to bring that kind of thinking to Michigan.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Former Congressman and Mike Rogers this running for Senate here
in Michigan. You know, to your point gas prices, I
just paid the lowest I paid in a long time
here in Michigan. We got prices down to seventy something.
Who knows where they'll go in the next day or two,
but I think that's a really fascinating point. And then
I saw Aldie of all places, they released their Thanksgiving meal,

(10:18):
and you know, they're kind of a lower price chain.
You can get some good food there for lower prices.
People like your frugally shop. Aldi they released their cost
of their thanks Giving meal this year and I think
it's forty dollars. That's seven dollars. I think they said
seven dollars less than last year for the entire meal
to feed the family. That's a pretty big headline. I

(10:41):
don't think we're hearing enough about that.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Well, the Democrats don't want you to hear about it,
justin that's the problem, and they want to tell you
about all the things that they believe are going to
get you to vote for them. So we're working through
this bidenflation part, and that's really really important. We're having
to pay for that four years of absolutely wild government
spending and them getting into your pocket and wanting more taxes,

(11:05):
and what the result is by lowering fuel prices and
all the obviously proves this point. That's the number one
driver First, the first driver. There's many drivers, but that's
the first driver. And the other one is now if
we can get energy rates under control, because the Democrats
wanted you to believe that wind and solar were the
only way you could get power. And by the way,

(11:26):
what that meant is you're now paying more for energy
than you were before. So we understand that we're getting
after it. You know, you either have your power on
or you have it off. When you have wind and solar,
guess what certain parts of the day or night it's
off with you know, traditional natural gas and others it's on,
and that becomes cheaper for you. And so we're going

(11:46):
through all that transition. You know. I believe if you
give the president some time here, we're going to be
in really good shape next year. And all those tax
cuts I talked about are starting into next year. The
reinvestment is happening. I've talked to a small business guys
adding thirty jobs in a small community because of reshoring
and the automobile companies trying to bring work back to Michigan.

(12:07):
This is these are small guys. Those thirty jobs are
important for that small community. Another guy, first time in
twenty five years having a second shift. This is working.
We have to give it time. And if you care
about building things in Michigan and America and not China,
this is the right path to be on.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Yeah. Former Congressman Mike Rodgers running for Senate here in Michigan.
I am so glad to hear you say in fact
about this energy issue. I think it's one of the
most important, maybe the most. It's going to be in
the next two years, if it's not in twenty six,
but the energy bills for folks residentially are creeping out,

(12:46):
but also on the commercial side as well, in industrial
and when we talk about trying to make things in
Michigan again, this is a big factor in it all.
Folks really need to be paying attention to this. We
got AI and data involved in all of this as well.
And boy, it's really good to hear somebody thinking about
I'd love to have a conversation with you further about

(13:07):
this down the road.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
I would love it. I would love it. And not
only that, but think about how many acres are of
farmland are going away to government subsidize solar panels. It
makes no sense to me whatsoever to take food production
off and put these solar panels on. And remember the
sun doesn't shine, wind doesn't blow. You can't rely on

(13:29):
solar power. We saw it in Texas. They have huge problems.
They were too reliant on you know, solar and wind policy.

Speaker 1 (13:36):
And it's not just an inconvenience. People died throat. Yeah,
it's not just an inconvenience. People died in Texas people.
And I think lots of folks miss out on that,
but not you. Thank you so much for talking about it.
Rogersfor Senate dot Com. You got it. Thank you, sir.
Appreciate you taking the time today. God blessed