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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Kyle Olsen with us. They streamed it over to The
Midwestern or The Midwesterner dot news. Kyle, good morning, Welcome.
I appreciate you being here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey, good morning. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Anything stand out for you last night in that debate.
I guess I probably should start things by asking.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
No to be honest. It's just I don't this. This
is the challenge with these with these primaries, with you know,
a large amount of people, is they all generally believe
the same thing. How do you separate yourself as a candidate.
And then of course the person that people say is
(00:39):
the front runner wasn't there, and so he John James
has not appeared at any of the three of these
debates that they've had, So there was not a whole
lot that was memorable. You know, we we've did some
interviews with the candidates afterwards and and we'll be posting
(01:02):
those later at The Midwesterner and on her ex account,
et cetera. But you know, one of the things that
I think that was was one of the questions that
was asked was this is going to be you know
a name, I d having voters know who you are,
where you stand on issues, et cetera is critically important,
(01:25):
and how are you going to separate yourself from a
Joscelyn Benson or a Garland Gilchrist or a or a
Mike Dugan, et cetera. And you know, the there was
not I don't think I don't think the candidates, some
of the candidates fully understand just how difficult that is
(01:49):
to get your name out, to get your policy positions
out and why people should vote for you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, this is a little early to to have the
debates to be talking about it, but also for these
folks to be able to differentiate and pick up some steam,
get name recognition, because that's a big part of this,
that's part of what this whole thing's going to be about.
And then you've got Jocelyn Benson out there, who again
you said, willing to do, and she is willing to
(02:16):
do anything and everything she can't affect you.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
There were stories about this this week at.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
The Midwesterner, the Midwesterner dot News, one of those candidates
asking the DOJ to step in, Eric Nesbitt saying, you
got to come in and look at what's happening with
these because there's no way we can let her oversee
her own election. That's the Katie Hobbs playbook right out
of Arizona. And you're gonna see. If you thought twenty
twenty four in twenty twenty was a mess, get ready
(02:43):
for what's coming down the pike here in twenty twenty six,
because she will stop at nothing. And I think that's
one of the biggest differences between Republicans and Democrats right now.
We said it before, but again I think it's worth repeating.
Sometimes it feels like folks on her right don't want
to save the cut tree as much as folks on
the left want to destroy it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Or is Obama's a fundamentally transformant.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right And what I have been saying, and I've said
it to you, I don't believe she is going to
allow Mike Duggan on the ballot. You know, all of
the talk is that it's going to be a three
way race, and she I believe she knows that if
she allows Mike Duggan on the ballot, she loses, and
(03:31):
the Republican has a very good chance of winning. And
we have seen in twenty twenty four there was there
was a progressive candidate who wanted to be on the ballot,
and she wouldn't let him on RFK wanted to be
off the ballot, she wouldn't let him off the ballot
because she believed that would take boats away from Trump.
(03:54):
She is very, very political, and now she is, as
you said, she's the Katie Hobbs of Michigan, where she
wants to go from Secretary of State to being governor,
running running and winning governor. And so she is going
to at this moment, she's going to oversee her own race.
And so Nesbit and other senators asked and representatives asked
(04:18):
for the DOJ to monitor what's going on, because if
she can manipulate the ballot and keep a competitor off,
then she's going to try and do that. Because the
polling shows this is interesting. The polling shows that right
now she gets seventy two percent of the Democrat base,
(04:38):
which is that's very low. I mean, generally you want
to be in the low to mid nineties. Obviously the
higher the better, but you really need to be if
you're if you're below ninety, you're you've got trouble. She's
at seventy two. And then when when respondents found out
that Mike Dougan is a Democrat her base, her Demo
(05:00):
CREP base goes to sixty percent, so she's only winning
sixty percent of Democrats. There is not in that scenario,
there is not a path for her, and so if
she puts him on the ballot, she's going to lose.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Kyle Olson.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The Midwestern and Midwesterner dat News will stand that same
sort of neighborhood, but also talk about another big story
that's been getting a lot of attention over at the
Midwesterner and rightfully so throughout the state right now, these
data centers, lots of pushback happening from communities that are
just against having these things come in. And boy, Jocelyn
(05:36):
Benson's husband right smack doubt dab in the middle of
one of these fights, maybe one of the biggest in
Saline Township right now.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yees. So her husband is his name is Ryan Friedrichs.
He works for a company called Related Companies. One of
their companies is Related Digital, which is the company that
is trying to put this data center in. And this
is you know, this is reminiscent of what happened in
Green Charter Township in Goshen. The local community doesn't want it.
(06:08):
So the big question is is the state of Michigan
going to come in and force the local community to
accept something like this. The Green Charter Township residents won.
This is a little bit of a different situation because
when it comes to these green projects, the state the state.
(06:29):
It's up to the state whether or not it's going
to it's going to you know, go there. And so
they made they were very clear that they didn't want this.
In kl Kaska, there there's a similar situation and the
local community was so opposed to it. The company itself said,
we hear you, We're not going to build here. So
(06:51):
they had so the local residents had a victory in
kl Kaska. There's lots of questions about whether or not
these these data centers are good policy. What impact do
they have on energy rates, on water usage, you know,
all of those sorts of environmental issues. Which is interesting
because the Democratic Party has has you know, sort of
(07:13):
fancied itself as the party for the environment. We didn't
see that in Green Charter Township. They you know, just
sort of look the other way about the impact on
water usage and everything else. And now it seems like
they're doing that again with these with these data centers,
and so it's they're they're looking at sites all over
(07:34):
the all over the state to try and push these through.
Jocelyn Benson, she's actually been put on the spot about
is your husband going to continue to work on this
if you happen to be elected governor and she's had
to answer for that. But but these these data centers
are the hot new thing and this is what you know,
local communities are going to be facing now.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Kle also the Midwest and the Midwestern Dot News the
founder there and bringing you the stories a matter of
most cross the state, but also the country as well.
Anything else you guys are working on right now that
we should be aware of or keep a lookout for
on the.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Website, Well, I think you know there's obviously it's we're
heading into the holiday season, but things are, you know,
still the news doesn't stop as you say this. Ilici's
lockin story where she she hosts a video basically calling
for the deep state to rise up against the Trump administration,
(08:32):
and then he calls that out and then she suddenly
turns into the victim and the media, the Michigan media
is portraying her as the victim. When she got this
whole thing started by calling on the media or the
military and the federal government to undermine the Trump policy
(08:52):
and the Trump administration and the chain of command. And
it's this is that that was shocked that she would
participate in something like that. It was interesting though, because
she led with I was a CIA officer.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Isn't that here?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You have someone who's invoking her CIA past is calling
on the military to undermine the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Don't miss that, and I think a lot of people haven't.
And folks just saying might even Mike Rodgers could be
the Senator from Michigan right now. Don't forget that. That's
a big conversation and one that's going to continue to
happen into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I just I just.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
When people talk about principles and they talk about, you know,
we got to make sure we're following a constitution. You
got somebody in there right now who's blatantly thumbing their
nose at the constitution. They don't care and they're rubbing
your face in it. Just remember that this is something
we talked about from the beginning. And look, I just
(09:52):
think it's worth pointing out. And again this think I
think this is all just going to heat up. This
isn't going anywhere anytimes known. This is a well coordinated effort.
This this whole issue with this video. They knew exactly
what they were doing. Well, time to come in after
the shutdown and after the vote on the Epstein thing,
which I think you'll find disappear soon too. They're on
to the next thing, folks, and so are we. We've
(10:15):
been on to them the whole time, and we'll make
sure we continue to keep it covered as Kyle does
the same. The best work at the Midwesterner dot News
always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
My friend. Thank you for joining us today. You got it,
and Happy Thanksgiving. God bless
Kyle Olsen with us. They streamed it over to The
Midwestern or The Midwesterner dot news. Kyle, good morning, Welcome.
I appreciate you being here with us.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hey, good morning. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Anything stand out for you last night in that debate.
I guess I probably should start things by asking.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
No to be honest. It's just I don't this. This
is the challenge with these with these primaries, with you know,
a large amount of people, is they all generally believe
the same thing. How do you separate yourself as a candidate.
And then of course the person that people say is
(00:39):
the front runner wasn't there, and so he John James
has not appeared at any of the three of these
debates that they've had, So there was not a whole
lot that was memorable. You know, we we've did some
interviews with the candidates afterwards and and we'll be posting
(01:02):
those later at The Midwesterner and on her ex account,
et cetera. But you know, one of the things that
I think that was was one of the questions that
was asked was this is going to be you know
a name, I d having voters know who you are,
where you stand on issues, et cetera is critically important,
(01:25):
and how are you going to separate yourself from a
Joscelyn Benson or a Garland Gilchrist or a or a
Mike Dugan, et cetera. And you know, the there was
not I don't think I don't think the candidates, some
of the candidates fully understand just how difficult that is
(01:49):
to get your name out, to get your policy positions
out and why people should vote for you.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, this is a little early to to have the
debates to be talking about it, but also for these
folks to be able to differentiate and pick up some steam,
get name recognition, because that's a big part of this,
that's part of what this whole thing's going to be about.
And then you've got Jocelyn Benson out there, who again
you said, willing to do, and she is willing to
(02:16):
do anything and everything she can't affect you.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
There were stories about this this week at.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
The Midwesterner, the Midwesterner dot News, one of those candidates
asking the DOJ to step in, Eric Nesbitt saying, you
got to come in and look at what's happening with
these because there's no way we can let her oversee
her own election. That's the Katie Hobbs playbook right out
of Arizona. And you're gonna see. If you thought twenty
twenty four in twenty twenty was a mess, get ready
(02:43):
for what's coming down the pike here in twenty twenty six,
because she will stop at nothing. And I think that's
one of the biggest differences between Republicans and Democrats right now.
We said it before, but again I think it's worth repeating.
Sometimes it feels like folks on her right don't want
to save the cut tree as much as folks on
the left want to destroy it.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Or is Obama's a fundamentally transformant.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Right And what I have been saying, and I've said
it to you, I don't believe she is going to
allow Mike Duggan on the ballot. You know, all of
the talk is that it's going to be a three
way race, and she I believe she knows that if
she allows Mike Duggan on the ballot, she loses, and
(03:31):
the Republican has a very good chance of winning. And
we have seen in twenty twenty four there was there
was a progressive candidate who wanted to be on the ballot,
and she wouldn't let him on RFK wanted to be
off the ballot, she wouldn't let him off the ballot
because she believed that would take boats away from Trump.
(03:54):
She is very, very political, and now she is, as
you said, she's the Katie Hobbs of Michigan, where she
wants to go from Secretary of State to being governor,
running running and winning governor. And so she is going
to at this moment, she's going to oversee her own race.
And so Nesbit and other senators asked and representatives asked
(04:18):
for the DOJ to monitor what's going on, because if
she can manipulate the ballot and keep a competitor off,
then she's going to try and do that. Because the
polling shows this is interesting. The polling shows that right
now she gets seventy two percent of the Democrat base,
(04:38):
which is that's very low. I mean, generally you want
to be in the low to mid nineties. Obviously the
higher the better, but you really need to be if
you're if you're below ninety, you're you've got trouble. She's
at seventy two. And then when when respondents found out
that Mike Dougan is a Democrat her base, her Demo
(05:00):
CREP base goes to sixty percent, so she's only winning
sixty percent of Democrats. There is not in that scenario,
there is not a path for her, and so if
she puts him on the ballot, she's going to lose.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Kyle Olson.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
The Midwestern and Midwesterner dat News will stand that same
sort of neighborhood, but also talk about another big story
that's been getting a lot of attention over at the
Midwesterner and rightfully so throughout the state right now, these
data centers, lots of pushback happening from communities that are
just against having these things come in. And boy, Jocelyn
(05:36):
Benson's husband right smack doubt dab in the middle of
one of these fights, maybe one of the biggest in
Saline Township right now.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yees. So her husband is his name is Ryan Friedrichs.
He works for a company called Related Companies. One of
their companies is Related Digital, which is the company that
is trying to put this data center in. And this
is you know, this is reminiscent of what happened in
Green Charter Township in Goshen. The local community doesn't want it.
(06:08):
So the big question is is the state of Michigan
going to come in and force the local community to
accept something like this. The Green Charter Township residents won.
This is a little bit of a different situation because
when it comes to these green projects, the state the state.
(06:29):
It's up to the state whether or not it's going
to it's going to you know, go there. And so
they made they were very clear that they didn't want this.
In kl Kaska, there there's a similar situation and the
local community was so opposed to it. The company itself said,
we hear you, We're not going to build here. So
(06:51):
they had so the local residents had a victory in
kl Kaska. There's lots of questions about whether or not
these these data centers are good policy. What impact do
they have on energy rates, on water usage, you know,
all of those sorts of environmental issues. Which is interesting
because the Democratic Party has has you know, sort of
(07:13):
fancied itself as the party for the environment. We didn't
see that in Green Charter Township. They you know, just
sort of look the other way about the impact on
water usage and everything else. And now it seems like
they're doing that again with these with these data centers,
and so it's they're they're looking at sites all over
(07:34):
the all over the state to try and push these through.
Jocelyn Benson, she's actually been put on the spot about
is your husband going to continue to work on this
if you happen to be elected governor and she's had
to answer for that. But but these these data centers
are the hot new thing and this is what you know,
local communities are going to be facing now.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Kle also the Midwest and the Midwestern Dot News the
founder there and bringing you the stories a matter of
most cross the state, but also the country as well.
Anything else you guys are working on right now that
we should be aware of or keep a lookout for
on the.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Website, Well, I think you know there's obviously it's we're
heading into the holiday season, but things are, you know,
still the news doesn't stop as you say this. Ilici's
lockin story where she she hosts a video basically calling
for the deep state to rise up against the Trump administration,
(08:32):
and then he calls that out and then she suddenly
turns into the victim and the media, the Michigan media
is portraying her as the victim. When she got this
whole thing started by calling on the media or the
military and the federal government to undermine the Trump policy
(08:52):
and the Trump administration and the chain of command. And
it's this is that that was shocked that she would
participate in something like that. It was interesting though, because
she led with I was a CIA officer.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Isn't that here?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You have someone who's invoking her CIA past is calling
on the military to undermine the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Don't miss that, and I think a lot of people haven't.
And folks just saying might even Mike Rodgers could be
the Senator from Michigan right now. Don't forget that. That's
a big conversation and one that's going to continue to
happen into twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
So I just I just.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
When people talk about principles and they talk about, you know,
we got to make sure we're following a constitution. You
got somebody in there right now who's blatantly thumbing their
nose at the constitution. They don't care and they're rubbing
your face in it. Just remember that this is something
we talked about from the beginning. And look, I just
(09:52):
think it's worth pointing out. And again this think I
think this is all just going to heat up. This
isn't going anywhere anytimes known. This is a well coordinated effort.
This this whole issue with this video. They knew exactly
what they were doing. Well, time to come in after
the shutdown and after the vote on the Epstein thing,
which I think you'll find disappear soon too. They're on
to the next thing, folks, and so are we. We've
(10:15):
been on to them the whole time, and we'll make
sure we continue to keep it covered as Kyle does
the same. The best work at the Midwesterner dot News
always a pleasure.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
My friend. Thank you for joining us today. You got it,
and Happy Thanksgiving. God bless
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