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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lots of folks jumping in and you can't too. On
a free for all Friday, hit the phone line at
six one six seven seven four twenty four. I love
to hear from you. Yesterday, and the Michigan House voted
to ben.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
The headline says in Detroit Free Press trans girls from
girls teams, but I don't think that necessarily describes it correctly.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Essentially, look, did this as common sense to me?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I would think anyway, whatever parts you got, that's the
team you play on, boys playing the boys team and
the girls play on the girls team. And I don't
mean to be crude, but that's just the way it
should be. Protect the Specifically, what we've seen over the
last few years, and we've had common great conversations with
folks like Riley Gaines, amongst many others, some of these
(00:50):
girls have been really truly injured. And as a father
or two daughters, this is something that I think deserves
more attention, and it got it in the now Republican controlled.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
House this week.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Johnny us to talk a little bit about this and
the full story. Regina Johnson with us right now. Thank you,
Red for taking the time to be here with us today.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thanks, So, do I understand this correctly?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Tell us about that what exactly was in this and
what the conversation was surrounding.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, it's the it's the same as the national stage.
Boys should not be in girls' sports. Girls get hurt.
It's not fair, it's not safe, and it destroys the
integrity of the sport. And the whole point of you know,
starting the seventies eighties, getting women's sports off the ground
(01:43):
was to have a category where women could compete and
safely have good competition that was healthy and was building,
you know, the ability to be on a team, all
the benefits that boys and men have had for years
in this book, but women need to do it with
women because they don't get hurt like they're fighting, you know,
(02:08):
they're they're battling against a man who biologically generally is
much stronger. There's you know, you asked a five year
old what's the difference between a boy and a girl?
And they know? And now we're making it confusing to adults. Well,
and it's just not right.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And I was going to ask you, Gina Johnson with
us right now, Reber, you've been around the block here.
You you ever think you'd see something like this have
to come across your desk, and yet it is necessary.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We don't see this around the world. This is unique
to America. American nonsense. And because we allow so many
freedoms and freedom of speech, which is all good, we
are to the point now where we're arguing nonsense and
(02:56):
we have to get back to the basics. It is
really a sad situation where we have to have legislation
go forward to protect women and young girls in their sports.
And that's what that's what the legislation does. Bathrooms will
come next. This legislation already begun with that boys do
not belong to grows, bathrooms and lofer rooms.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
What let me ask you, because because uh, you know,
you just made a great point here, we are arguing
common and it's to me, I believe it's common sense.
It is throughout the rest of the world, and I
think mostly here too. I think there's just a very
small percentage. And a lot of these folks are actually
in the news media and some of them in the
Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But I repeat myself. The point is that there is
this a very.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Small people, a percentage of people that insist on sort
of dragging us down this road. But here in Michigan, uh,
and I know you're you're all too aware of this
is we've we've got bigger fish to fry.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This is a serious situation and it ought to be
snuffed out as as simple and as quickly as we can.
And I plug the efforts to get down in the House.
But here in the state, you know, there are so
many things that ought to get done right now. We've
got a president who's trying to bring manufacturing back to
the country and an investments coming in by the billions.
Every day we hear at new investments, and there are
(04:15):
a lot of folks concerned just for one thing that hey,
maybe Michigan might miss out on some of those things
because of the climate and the environment that's been built
up here in the state that's been allowed with Democrats
in control over the last several years. That's another big issue.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's right. That's right, We've got real issues to settle,
and we're looking at losing funding in schools also because
we just are going to sit and argue about these
basic differences.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The other thing I want to bring up too, is
we throw around this for discrimination without proper definition. There
is positive discrimination and there's negative discrimination. Our Civil rights Yeah,
defends against negative discrimination. And whether you're gay, or you're straight,
(05:07):
or you're male or female, married, single, whatever, disabled, whatever race,
you are, ethnic group, you are defended against negative discrimination
that would take away your rights to basic freedom, to education,
to housing, and to employment. All of these have been
(05:28):
preserved in our Civil Rights Act. Even before the expansion
of the Eliot Lars and Civil Rights Act to embraced
LGBTQ rights extra rights, they already were defended because they
fall into other categories. That's proper use of the word
(05:50):
of negative discrimination. Now, positive discrimination are things like you
don't qualify for this job. You're not even eighteen years old,
you don't you don't know how to drive us semi truck. Right,
there's all sorts of positive discrimination. And even in sports,
we have wrestling weight categories and you can only wrestle
(06:14):
in your weight category.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well as a larger man, I identify as a larger man,
I identify as much thinner.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I would like to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's just not going to cut it, as you say,
Reptena Johnson with us right now, let me ask you
because this is a this is an issue that you're
dealing with, and I don't know what the odds that
just said it will take it up and then it's
got to get to the governor. But I do appreciate
you all bringing this up. Maybe let's talk briefly about that,
(06:47):
but also I want to give you a chance to
talk about some of the other things that you all
are working on, because as Republicans are taken back control
of the House and folks, this is again a great
reminder and especially as we move into twenty six why
elections matter, because they have consequences. This had never get
to see the light of day had Republicans not taken
back control of the House, and what the Speaker and
you all have been able to accomplish is pretty comprehensive.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, well, you're probably referring to the recent requests from
the Secretary of State to just show us training materials
that were given to clerks to you know, have proper elections,
and that doesn't seem like a really big ass They're
just a training documents and she wasn't able to turn
(07:33):
them over, and she's been subpoena to turn them over,
which is probably you know, we're all learning as we
go here. I mean the audience, the voters, the electorate,
the taxpayers are learning as we're rolling out processes like this,
that it is the legislature's responsibility to oversee the conduct
(07:54):
of the eighteen nineteen twenty departments. However many we have
each year, and that change just but unfortunately such terry
State Joson Benson has decided that and she will not
turn them over. And I don't I don't understand what
would be the big deal in this to turn over
training documents. The clerks have requested, some of the clerks
(08:17):
have requested that we help them in this way, and
that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wrap Gina Johnson with the latest on these stories, and
mar we appreciate you taking the time to come off.
People may have questions, especially if they're in your district,
and that I like to reach out and hear more
about all the great work you all are doing. Let
their voice be heard as well. Seventy eighth District.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Right, Yeah, that's party four counties between Lanston.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And Grand Rapids, so a pretty comprehensive district there as well.
If if they do have questions, what's the best way
for them.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To reach out.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
My office or email Gina Johnson at House dot M,
I dot go happy to respond and if someone will
leave their phone number email, we'll get right back with them.
You know, we've got like you said, we've got a
lot of important things to do. The rugs, local rugs
need to get picked. We need to pass a budget
securing safety and infrastructure pay through twelve. That's what we did,
(09:18):
the veterans, the corrections departments all secured in the House
proposed budget. Then it pushed back something that doesn't look
like that. And you know, we've got to stop this nonsense.
Also about sanctuary cities and county not right. That increases violence.
We got to decrease violence and help support our police
(09:38):
so they can do their job.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Rep.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Diana Johnson, thank you for taking the time to be
here with us, so we appreciate all the hard work.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Keep it up.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Thank you, take care you got it.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm a fantastic memral of Day weekend
Lots of folks jumping in and you can't too. On
a free for all Friday, hit the phone line at
six one six seven seven four twenty four. I love
to hear from you. Yesterday, and the Michigan House voted
to ben.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
The headline says in Detroit Free Press trans girls from
girls teams, but I don't think that necessarily describes it correctly.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Essentially, look, did this as common sense to me?
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I would think anyway, whatever parts you got, that's the
team you play on, boys playing the boys team and
the girls play on the girls team. And I don't
mean to be crude, but that's just the way it
should be. Protect the Specifically, what we've seen over the
last few years, and we've had common great conversations with
folks like Riley Gaines, amongst many others, some of these
(00:50):
girls have been really truly injured. And as a father
or two daughters, this is something that I think deserves
more attention, and it got it in the now Republican controlled.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
House this week.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Johnny us to talk a little bit about this and
the full story. Regina Johnson with us right now. Thank you,
Red for taking the time to be here with us today.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
It's good to be with you.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Thanks, So, do I understand this correctly?
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Tell us about that what exactly was in this and
what the conversation was surrounding.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well, it's the it's the same as the national stage.
Boys should not be in girls' sports. Girls get hurt.
It's not fair, it's not safe, and it destroys the
integrity of the sport. And the whole point of you know,
starting the seventies eighties, getting women's sports off the ground
(01:43):
was to have a category where women could compete and
safely have good competition that was healthy and was building,
you know, the ability to be on a team, all
the benefits that boys and men have had for years
in this book, but women need to do it with
women because they don't get hurt like they're fighting, you know,
(02:08):
they're they're battling against a man who biologically generally is
much stronger. There's you know, you asked a five year
old what's the difference between a boy and a girl?
And they know? And now we're making it confusing to adults. Well,
and it's just not right.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And I was going to ask you, Gina Johnson with
us right now, Reber, you've been around the block here.
You you ever think you'd see something like this have
to come across your desk, and yet it is necessary.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
We don't see this around the world. This is unique
to America. American nonsense. And because we allow so many
freedoms and freedom of speech, which is all good, we
are to the point now where we're arguing nonsense and
(02:56):
we have to get back to the basics. It is
really a sad situation where we have to have legislation
go forward to protect women and young girls in their sports.
And that's what that's what the legislation does. Bathrooms will
come next. This legislation already begun with that boys do
not belong to grows, bathrooms and lofer rooms.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
What let me ask you, because because uh, you know,
you just made a great point here, we are arguing
common and it's to me, I believe it's common sense.
It is throughout the rest of the world, and I
think mostly here too. I think there's just a very
small percentage. And a lot of these folks are actually
in the news media and some of them in the
Democrat Party.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
But I repeat myself. The point is that there is
this a very.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Small people, a percentage of people that insist on sort
of dragging us down this road. But here in Michigan, uh,
and I know you're you're all too aware of this
is we've we've got bigger fish to fry.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
This is a serious situation and it ought to be
snuffed out as as simple and as quickly as we can.
And I plug the efforts to get down in the House.
But here in the state, you know, there are so
many things that ought to get done right now. We've
got a president who's trying to bring manufacturing back to
the country and an investments coming in by the billions.
Every day we hear at new investments, and there are
(04:15):
a lot of folks concerned just for one thing that hey,
maybe Michigan might miss out on some of those things
because of the climate and the environment that's been built
up here in the state that's been allowed with Democrats
in control over the last several years. That's another big issue.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's right. That's right, We've got real issues to settle,
and we're looking at losing funding in schools also because
we just are going to sit and argue about these
basic differences.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
The other thing I want to bring up too, is
we throw around this for discrimination without proper definition. There
is positive discrimination and there's negative discrimination. Our Civil rights Yeah,
defends against negative discrimination. And whether you're gay, or you're straight,
(05:07):
or you're male or female, married, single, whatever, disabled, whatever race,
you are, ethnic group, you are defended against negative discrimination
that would take away your rights to basic freedom, to education,
to housing, and to employment. All of these have been
(05:28):
preserved in our Civil Rights Act. Even before the expansion
of the Eliot Lars and Civil Rights Act to embraced
LGBTQ rights extra rights, they already were defended because they
fall into other categories. That's proper use of the word
(05:50):
of negative discrimination. Now, positive discrimination are things like you
don't qualify for this job. You're not even eighteen years old,
you don't you don't know how to drive us semi truck. Right,
there's all sorts of positive discrimination. And even in sports,
we have wrestling weight categories and you can only wrestle
(06:14):
in your weight category.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Well as a larger man, I identify as a larger man,
I identify as much thinner.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
I would like to do that.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
It's just not going to cut it, as you say,
Reptena Johnson with us right now, let me ask you
because this is a this is an issue that you're
dealing with, and I don't know what the odds that
just said it will take it up and then it's
got to get to the governor. But I do appreciate
you all bringing this up. Maybe let's talk briefly about that,
(06:47):
but also I want to give you a chance to
talk about some of the other things that you all
are working on, because as Republicans are taken back control
of the House and folks, this is again a great
reminder and especially as we move into twenty six why
elections matter, because they have consequences. This had never get
to see the light of day had Republicans not taken
back control of the House, and what the Speaker and
you all have been able to accomplish is pretty comprehensive.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, well, you're probably referring to the recent requests from
the Secretary of State to just show us training materials
that were given to clerks to you know, have proper elections,
and that doesn't seem like a really big ass They're
just a training documents and she wasn't able to turn
(07:33):
them over, and she's been subpoena to turn them over,
which is probably you know, we're all learning as we
go here. I mean the audience, the voters, the electorate,
the taxpayers are learning as we're rolling out processes like this,
that it is the legislature's responsibility to oversee the conduct
(07:54):
of the eighteen nineteen twenty departments. However many we have
each year, and that change just but unfortunately such terry
State Joson Benson has decided that and she will not
turn them over. And I don't I don't understand what
would be the big deal in this to turn over
training documents. The clerks have requested, some of the clerks
(08:17):
have requested that we help them in this way, and
that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Wrap Gina Johnson with the latest on these stories, and
mar we appreciate you taking the time to come off.
People may have questions, especially if they're in your district,
and that I like to reach out and hear more
about all the great work you all are doing. Let
their voice be heard as well. Seventy eighth District.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Right, Yeah, that's party four counties between Lanston.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
And Grand Rapids, so a pretty comprehensive district there as well.
If if they do have questions, what's the best way
for them.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
To reach out.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
My office or email Gina Johnson at House dot M,
I dot go happy to respond and if someone will
leave their phone number email, we'll get right back with them.
You know, we've got like you said, we've got a
lot of important things to do. The rugs, local rugs
need to get picked. We need to pass a budget
securing safety and infrastructure pay through twelve. That's what we did,
(09:18):
the veterans, the corrections departments all secured in the House
proposed budget. Then it pushed back something that doesn't look
like that. And you know, we've got to stop this nonsense.
Also about sanctuary cities and county not right. That increases violence.
We got to decrease violence and help support our police
(09:38):
so they can do their job.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Rep.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Diana Johnson, thank you for taking the time to be
here with us, so we appreciate all the hard work.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Keep it up.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Thank you, take care you got it.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I'm a fantastic memral of Day weekend
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