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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In fact, what happened there. We're going to get some
of those details from Eileen McNeil, who's on the line
with us right now. Eileen, thank you so much for
being here with us in the Shina line. Now, what
were you actually there yesterday for this? Yes, I was,
so you were one of the folks who spoke out.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, we had, you know, great showing of parents. I
mean probably sixty people, seventy people in the room. Wow,
I leave forty forty two parents and others spoke such
as myself and Katie Bussard from Salton, Mike Global, and
Moms for Liberty. I mean, I'm very proud of all
(00:39):
the groups really giving the shout out to get the
parents to this meeting. It was very important.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So what were some of the biggest concerns of the
people that decided, look this is this goes too far.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Right, Well, they're very concerned that they're changey the health standards,
and Michigan has right now standards in place, even set
by the legislature for sex education, and that's under state law,
and parents have the right to opt out of sex education.
(01:16):
And they also require an advisory board for each school
district that is made up of clergy, parents and the community,
so each school district locally can decide, Okay, is this
the curriculum we want, Is this how we want to
teach it. There's a lot of input, and then even
if they decide on something and a parent says, nah,
(01:38):
I don't want my kid to go to the sex
head class in the public school, they have their absolute
right to opt out and then separate from that. And
this is very important. We all know with health class
it's required for graduation. And what these updated Health Standards
do is weave in all lot of other elements of
(02:03):
what they call health education regarding sexual orientation and gender
identity topics that many, many parents and they all spoke
out yesterday do not want being taught to their children
and in health class. And there is no opt out
of health class. It's required for graduation. So that was
(02:28):
the biggest issue. And I personally take affront at the
doctor pamel Upew and the head of the chair calling
those of us who are asking parents to weigh in
read everything, look at what they're doing, and calling it
misinformation because it's not. It's a fifty one page document
(02:51):
draft updated Health Standards, and within those fifty one pages
if you can bear to look at them. The the
topics of gender identity and sexual orientation from sixth grade
on and in fact some things that could even go younger.
But the but you know, discussing it at length, it
(03:12):
starts in sixth grade. Are in their documents, and they're
they're somehow not making the distinction that if those are
topics under you know, what I would say is sex education,
then they need to be in the sex education class
that can be opted out of. But these are called
updated health standards or health class and this is a
(03:37):
big distinction because they're accusing us of misinformation, staying we're
not getting rid of rid of the sex education classes.
Were Yeah, parents are welcome, we have advisory boards and
and absolutely we want transparency. But but you see the
dissection here. We're not they're not getting rid of the
sex and classes, but they're teaching sex and topics that
(04:02):
they want to add an update to the health standard
to the health classes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know, island. As I hear the story, I think
to myself and then part of this, I think is
context is key. The fact they try to get this
through in Lancing with a vote in the guess in
the House at the time Democrat controlled House, and it
was so radical it couldn't even pass through there. At
the time, Democrats controlled the House the Senate, and the
(04:30):
so radical couldn't get through there. They decided they had
to sneak it through. And now they act like this
is just you know, there's nothing to see here but.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And that we're crazy and what's your problem, and you're
spreading misinformation and that is insulting every single person who
has read this document. And I don't know, maybe all
the board members haven't. It's in the pages. They're all
over the place. It's woven in the different sections.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, so what happens next, dear, This is still part
of the public comment portion of this whole thing. And
boy did they get an ear full yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah. And they actually even had thirty people online, which
thank you everyone. Some people held online for four hours
before they got a chance to finally speak. That's because
the board finally they allowed all of the people in
the room to speak who had showed up. Some had
driven several hours showed up to speak. One couple came
(05:33):
with a two month old baby in their arms. I mean,
it was amazing Justin, I'm very proud of our parents
in the state and waking up. But those online, they adjourned,
they discussed whether they would lengthen the time. They lengthened
the time, then they went back to their agenda, leaving
the people on hold, and then they finally got back
to the people on hold on on line on the
(05:55):
phone line and let them speak. But by that time,
you know, half of them had dropped off because they
were online, probably for hours. But regardless, I think the
voice was heard of the parents. And next steps is
I believe there are some legal issues. I think they're
reviewing it legally, because, as you said, Justin the state
(06:17):
is very clear like this is really if any changes
should be made in curriculum, it should be done by
the legislators, if it's done at all, especially something this drastic,
and I think they're looking at their legal issues they
might face. There is another meeting. There was not a
vote yesterday. There may be a vote in November Thursday,
(06:39):
November thirteenth, and or their next meeting in December. And
it's always the second Tuesday, I mean except for November,
but it's usually the second Tuesday of the months, and
we'll keep people posted all the different you know, different
groups that have really helped to spread the word. And
(07:01):
Tom and McMillan and Nicki Snyder who have been awesome
on the board, and they'll keep us posted. You know,
is this going to be on the agenda and we
will be watching.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Eileen McNeil and the folks Citizens for Traditional Values CTV
Michigan dot org. You can find out more. Isleen, what's
the best way if they want to stay in touch
with you on this topic for them to do that?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, well, you know directly, you can shoot me an
email Eileen at CTV Michigan dot org. I see lots
of emails, and our website is CTV Michigan dot org.
And sign up to subscribe because we'll do alerts.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, that's that's one thing. We're not going to let
this and go. And of course, folks and more and
more people are waking up to what's happening, particularly in
the schools, in this new proposal really cutting parents out
of the loop altogether on it. I know this is
not going to be popular, so we're gonna make sure
that people continue to hear about it. You speak up
and they'll sure there'll be legal challenges. Even if they
(08:05):
do vote this true, they've got an uphill battle on
this thing, and we're not gonna stop. We'll continue to fight.
And thank you for all that you do, Eileen, thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, thank you so much, Justin for just calling attention
to it and appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Always a pleasure. Thank you,
In fact, what happened there. We're going to get some
of those details from Eileen McNeil, who's on the line
with us right now. Eileen, thank you so much for
being here with us in the Shina line. Now, what
were you actually there yesterday for this? Yes, I was,
so you were one of the folks who spoke out.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, we had, you know, great showing of parents. I
mean probably sixty people, seventy people in the room. Wow,
I leave forty forty two parents and others spoke such
as myself and Katie Bussard from Salton, Mike Global, and
Moms for Liberty. I mean, I'm very proud of all
(00:39):
the groups really giving the shout out to get the
parents to this meeting. It was very important.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
So what were some of the biggest concerns of the
people that decided, look this is this goes too far.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Right, Well, they're very concerned that they're changey the health standards,
and Michigan has right now standards in place, even set
by the legislature for sex education, and that's under state law,
and parents have the right to opt out of sex education.
(01:16):
And they also require an advisory board for each school
district that is made up of clergy, parents and the community,
so each school district locally can decide, Okay, is this
the curriculum we want, Is this how we want to
teach it. There's a lot of input, and then even
if they decide on something and a parent says, nah,
(01:38):
I don't want my kid to go to the sex
head class in the public school, they have their absolute
right to opt out and then separate from that. And
this is very important. We all know with health class
it's required for graduation. And what these updated Health Standards
do is weave in all lot of other elements of
(02:03):
what they call health education regarding sexual orientation and gender
identity topics that many, many parents and they all spoke
out yesterday do not want being taught to their children
and in health class. And there is no opt out
of health class. It's required for graduation. So that was
(02:28):
the biggest issue. And I personally take affront at the
doctor pamel Upew and the head of the chair calling
those of us who are asking parents to weigh in
read everything, look at what they're doing, and calling it
misinformation because it's not. It's a fifty one page document
(02:51):
draft updated Health Standards, and within those fifty one pages
if you can bear to look at them. The the
topics of gender identity and sexual orientation from sixth grade
on and in fact some things that could even go younger.
But the but you know, discussing it at length, it
(03:12):
starts in sixth grade. Are in their documents, and they're
they're somehow not making the distinction that if those are
topics under you know, what I would say is sex education,
then they need to be in the sex education class
that can be opted out of. But these are called
updated health standards or health class and this is a
(03:37):
big distinction because they're accusing us of misinformation, staying we're
not getting rid of rid of the sex education classes.
Were Yeah, parents are welcome, we have advisory boards and
and absolutely we want transparency. But but you see the
dissection here. We're not they're not getting rid of the
sex and classes, but they're teaching sex and topics that
(04:02):
they want to add an update to the health standard
to the health classes.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You know, island. As I hear the story, I think
to myself and then part of this, I think is
context is key. The fact they try to get this
through in Lancing with a vote in the guess in
the House at the time Democrat controlled House, and it
was so radical it couldn't even pass through there. At
the time, Democrats controlled the House the Senate, and the
(04:30):
so radical couldn't get through there. They decided they had
to sneak it through. And now they act like this
is just you know, there's nothing to see here but.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And that we're crazy and what's your problem, and you're
spreading misinformation and that is insulting every single person who
has read this document. And I don't know, maybe all
the board members haven't. It's in the pages. They're all
over the place. It's woven in the different sections.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, so what happens next, dear, This is still part
of the public comment portion of this whole thing. And
boy did they get an ear full yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah. And they actually even had thirty people online, which
thank you everyone. Some people held online for four hours
before they got a chance to finally speak. That's because
the board finally they allowed all of the people in
the room to speak who had showed up. Some had
driven several hours showed up to speak. One couple came
(05:33):
with a two month old baby in their arms. I mean,
it was amazing Justin, I'm very proud of our parents
in the state and waking up. But those online, they adjourned,
they discussed whether they would lengthen the time. They lengthened
the time, then they went back to their agenda, leaving
the people on hold, and then they finally got back
to the people on hold on on line on the
(05:55):
phone line and let them speak. But by that time,
you know, half of them had dropped off because they
were online, probably for hours. But regardless, I think the
voice was heard of the parents. And next steps is
I believe there are some legal issues. I think they're
reviewing it legally, because, as you said, Justin the state
(06:17):
is very clear like this is really if any changes
should be made in curriculum, it should be done by
the legislators, if it's done at all, especially something this drastic,
and I think they're looking at their legal issues they
might face. There is another meeting. There was not a
vote yesterday. There may be a vote in November Thursday,
(06:39):
November thirteenth, and or their next meeting in December. And
it's always the second Tuesday, I mean except for November,
but it's usually the second Tuesday of the months, and
we'll keep people posted all the different you know, different
groups that have really helped to spread the word. And
(07:01):
Tom and McMillan and Nicki Snyder who have been awesome
on the board, and they'll keep us posted. You know,
is this going to be on the agenda and we
will be watching.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
Eileen McNeil and the folks Citizens for Traditional Values CTV
Michigan dot org. You can find out more. Isleen, what's
the best way if they want to stay in touch
with you on this topic for them to do that?
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, well, you know directly, you can shoot me an
email Eileen at CTV Michigan dot org. I see lots
of emails, and our website is CTV Michigan dot org.
And sign up to subscribe because we'll do alerts.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, that's that's one thing. We're not going to let
this and go. And of course, folks and more and
more people are waking up to what's happening, particularly in
the schools, in this new proposal really cutting parents out
of the loop altogether on it. I know this is
not going to be popular, so we're gonna make sure
that people continue to hear about it. You speak up
and they'll sure there'll be legal challenges. Even if they
(08:05):
do vote this true, they've got an uphill battle on
this thing, and we're not gonna stop. We'll continue to fight.
And thank you for all that you do, Eileen, thank
you so much.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well, thank you so much, Justin for just calling attention
to it and appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Always a pleasure. Thank you,
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