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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mike Rodgers extensive background in history and law enforcement. In fact,
we'll talk a little bit about this story as well
as the big announcement from the President last week as well.
He's running for senate here in Michigan. Taking the time
to join us this morning, we appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Thank you, sir, Justin.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
It is always good to be on. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
What a story out of Traverse City.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
I just start with that in your extensive law enforcement
history here, I mean, I can't even imagine these people
are out for a you know, just a regular day
in the weekend, a beautiful weekend in Traverse City, shopping
there at Meyer and then a chaos breaks out in
this situation. Don't know the full motivation because we don't

(00:41):
have that release from law enforcement, if there even was one,
or if it was just a man who snapped who
had had an extensive mental health issue.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
But this is a problem in America. We continue to
see crime.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
On the rise, whether it's you know, this unchecked folks
coming into the country that we don't know who they are.
We've seen that that death doesn't seem to be the
issue here with this individual, but it does kind of
strike a court We just brought this up that President
Trump had made an announcement of about executive orders to
help people who do have mental health issues just last week.
That might might have been something that would have helped

(01:15):
stop something like this from happening in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah. Absolutely, justin certainly, my heart breaks for all of
those that endure this, and you know, the family stress
that comes with all of this as well is going
to be very very difficult for them, and you know,
God bless them and we'll be praying for them and
they're kind of full recovery on this is sometimes the
mental wounds are last a little longer than the physical wounds. Yeah,

(01:41):
from just out of the blue being stabbed by someone,
and you could tell in the video that the guy
clearly had some mental health issues, and that's something we're
just going to have to get our arms around. Social
Media makes it worse, i think for some of these folks,
and we're just going to have to have a stem
to starn review of what makes these people get to

(02:03):
this point and how we intercede with these folks a
lot earlier. And you don't know yet if it was
drug induced or other things as well. So there's a
lot we don't know, but one thing we can absolutely
say without reservation is that this was a mental health
case that needed to have some interdiction that didn't get.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
That it really is. It's another one of those sad scenarios.
But I got to ask you too. I mean, I
talk about that. I think this is one of the
things that deserves focus, but I really like to focus
on the heroes. It wasn't just the man with the
responsibly armed citizen there who I think you know this is,
this is a narrative this way. He didn't see this
play out I think in the mainstream news as much

(02:46):
as you should have or could have over the weekend.
But the man who stepped up and stepped in Eric
Perry shopping there a marine who stood up in the
in the face of evil and danger and who knows
how many people's lives he said.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Oh completely, And even the other folks that out when
he was out in the parking lot that kind of
surrounded him, Yeah, to make sure that he didn't go
off somewhere else. They weren't armed. And so you I
mean that is you know, a neighbor taking care of
neighbor in its finest form, and of course, having the
ability to have someone there that was legally armed that

(03:24):
could at least bring that circumstance down, you know, kind
of take the temperature down a little bit, keep other
people safe with phenomenal And I think that just tells
you why those of us who support you know, concealed
carry and responsible gun ownership, you know, believe that this
is exactly the kind of case where that that absolutely

(03:46):
saved lives.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Mike Rodgers is with us right now as running for
Senate here in Michigan, BI crisscrossing the state, and big
news came out last week one another high profile congressman
came out and said, Bill Heisingen, you know I'm not
going to do this, he was thinking about running for senate.
Surely that helps sort of clear the boards here. And

(04:10):
the President Trump says and an endorsement giving you his
full and complete endorsement in a statement last week on
truth kind of clearing the way to make things a
little easier in a primary. Does that help you down
the road. And Republicans in general, as Democrats kind of
fight it out.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Oh absolutely. And the last time we had a real
Democrat primary, and they are fighting it out, and they
are fighting to the left. I mean, if you listen
to the kinds of things they're talking about, embracing the
guy from New York that wants to own your grocery
you know, has the government owning your grocery stores, to
a really kind of a radical transgender ideology with one

(04:51):
and the other one who wants California to regulate our
auto industry here in Michigan. I mean, they are just
so far out of touch with actually working people here
in the state, and they're fighting it out going further left.
Love that and last time that happened was nineteen ninety
four and Spencer Abraham, a Republican, won that seat. So

(05:12):
we're pretty fired up about that. Let them fight it out.
I think it's good for them to actually expose them now.
They all are trying to say we're moderates, however, which
we should be all very very cautious self going into
the election next year. But this allows us to build
our team and getting a President Trump's endorsement. I had
a good occasion to talk to him last week. You know,

(05:34):
he's going to come to the state. He'll be a
part of the state, and if you think about the
working family issues, just in the you know, the big
beautiful bill. When you talk about, you know, no tax
on overtime, This is going to be a win for
our state. Three million families depend on overtime in our state,
three million Now that that money is not going to
be taxed by the federal government, huge, huge, huge benefit

(05:57):
for them. No tax on tips. For the many waitresses
primarily waitresses, but waiters as well, that they actually get
to keep that money, which is I think going to
be really critical for but not only the restaurant industry,
but those people who are a lot of those cases
are working second jobs to do this work so they

(06:18):
can take care of their family. All of that really
really important. And then of course buying a car with
you can write off your interest on your car payment.
That helps our auto industry here in Michigan, but also
helps families who are struggling to make sure they can
make those car payments. I mean, this was the most
worker friendly tax bill I have seen in a very

(06:38):
long time, and I'm pretty fired up about it. So
we get to talk about all the good things. Democrats
are fighting amongst themselves. The president is in we have
a good relationship. Imagine having a senator that can actually
walk into the Oval office and say, hey, miss President,
this is what Michigan needs. You know, we need to
get Michigan back in line. We haven't had that in
thirty years in the state of Michigan. Two Democrats holding

(07:01):
those seats, thinking the same way, talking the same way,
and voting the same way. And they have watched our
education system go down, our manufacturing losses. Well, we can
put a stop to that. We can bring back this
American in Michigan renaissance and manufacturing. I'm pretty fired up
about it. And that was a big week for us
last week.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Mike Roger's running for Senate here, former congressman and the
state of Michigan making that big announcement last week President
Trump with the full endorsement. And you know, one of
the other things, in fact, he's there right now America's
and unfortunately me, he just does not want to talk
about this at all.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
It is these massive trade deals that are getting done.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
In fact, media is so shocked about this deal with
the EU even they like their jaws hit the floor.
They hurt how good it was. What does this do
for America? We've got massive moves being made economically to
bring America back on top of the world stage and
keep that focus moving forward.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, and so we seeded for so long our manufacturing
prowess in America. And by the way, every manufacturing job
is a middle class job, and so every time we
lose one, that is one flop in the middle class,
that kind of slips away from our fingers and so
reorienting and it's hard, it's not easy. This has been
decades and decades of allowing all of our manufacturing to

(08:23):
go overseas. This is that fundamental realignment. And so every
time the president announces one of these deals, after the
in Wall Street and all the others say it can't
be done, it shouldn't be done. What do Oh my gosh,
this is terrible. What it starts to do is realign
our ability to manufacture things here. And think about it, Whirlpool,
it's coming back to America. There are increased manufacturing jobs

(08:45):
across our auto sector here across the country. Even BMW,
I think, is expanding its operations. The Big three are
starting to bring part supplier orders back here to the
United States. It's having real consequences were real working families.
And so if you're worried about Wall Street. Well, guess what,
they don't like anything that doesn't make them money every

(09:06):
single moment of every single day. This is going to
be good for people who are you know, working their
fannies off to keep up here in America and here
in Michigan. And so I'm pretty excited about it. Yeah,
they don't want to talk about it because this is hard,
This is not the way they would do it. And
I think, listen, the more we keep knocking these out,
it's just going to be better for the long term

(09:28):
economic and national security health of the United States.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Mike crog is with us right now, Ronnie for Senate.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Just one more thing I want to ask, because you know,
there are some folks that have a little bit of
question and concern about what might be done reaching out
to some of the folks that didn't maybe come along
last time, they didn't vote libertarian minded, some of these folks.
And look, I've been on the other end of this
trying to make the point that if we don't come

(09:54):
together here, folks, we're going to elect another Democrat, just
like Alyssa slocke In. And I know that was a
a super close race lifetime. What do you say to
those folks and how are you reaching out to say, Look,
we need you all on this otherwise we're going to
see another disaster elected to the Michigan Senate here.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Well, and you know, listen, I had the occasional office
for the president and there was a couple of factors here.
One over one hundred thousand Michigan voters walked in, voted
for Donald Trump and turned right around and walked out.
They didn't vote for one other voter. You know, that
obviously hurts all the down ticket Republican races. And then
there was a band that decided they wanted to be libertarian,

(10:38):
and I don't know if they really understand what the
libertarian platform is. They believe in open borders, they believe
in no social security. I mean, I think people stopped
for a minute and thought about what they were voting for,
and I'm not sure they would have done that. But
what the president says, Hey, I need some help in
the Senate. I got to have you in the Senate.
I need some help in the Senate. So if you

(10:58):
love Donald Trump and you believe that he's doing everything
you can to help America, even if you don't like
thing A or thing B. I mean, he is a machine.
I mean I was talking to him at ten o'clock
at night after everything that's going on in the world.
I mean, can you imagine that? And he was as
vement and vigor as he was, you know, all day
long on the news. So what you need to do
is think about, all right, do we send him someone

(11:19):
that's going to help him, that he wants to be
there and wants to work with. I think the answer
has to be yes. If we don't, if we don't
band together, we're going to send another Democrat, and again
we'll go another six years without having somebody that can
walk down to the White House and have a productive
conversation about what's good for Michigan. And so here's what

(11:40):
I've been doing, by the way, and I encourage folks
to get a hold of your local party officials or
your district chairs and you can find all that online.
We've been going and having conversations with people who had
that libertarian bent, and you know, they had some issues
on the Patriot Act and other things, and we're talking
to him about it. And we've won a lot of
converts by having the those conversations. So take a minute,

(12:02):
come on out, have a conversation with us. We'd love
to engage. I think most of the information that they
had on those issues was not one hundred percent accurate.
And you know, at the end of it, you can
still say I didn't like X or why, But now
I know who you are, why you did it, and
would would like to go forward on all of this
and so. And by the way, just for your listeners,

(12:23):
I support of the big changes in the Patriot Act
that Trump and cash Betel did that that are using.
They are using that Patriot Act today. They caught the
Chinese folks trying to get biotoxins and using the Patriot
Act because it's geared toward foreigners, non Americans, and so
loving to have those conversations. It's been really productive and
I look forward to continue doing those. And we've had

(12:45):
those pockets of conversations for the last three months and
we're going to continue to do it.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
I know you're working hard behind the scenes trying to
have those conversations. Would would you, But let's do this again,
either you know, on the radio, in a long form
podcast or where you can answer those questions. We can
give that out that people say, you can hear, because
I hear your heart on it. I just want to
make sure that that people get to have those questions
answered as well, because look, folks, I mean, I made
no mistake. I've been saying this. I said it last

(13:11):
election as well. This is critical for not just for Michigan,
but for President Trump's agenda.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
We got to get this done, absolutely, and the President
knows it. That's why he was almost adamant. He said,
you got to win this thing for me, and I
need some help back here. So let's I think if
we come together to do that. I think all the
all the you know, antibodies that are coming after the president,
he needs a little help back there to make sure that.

(13:39):
And by the way, which is good for Michigan because
we can I can make sure when I do walk
in there that Michigan's taken care of. That's really important too.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Mike Rogers' former congressman here running for Senate in Michigan,
always appreciate it. Rogers for Senate dot Com as the website.
We'll have you back and we'll talk a little bit
more about these things and all the other news that
is constantly developing over the days.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Here ahead. Thank you, sir, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Thank you so much. Thanks Justin, you got it.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
We'll talk more in fact with your press
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