April 30, 2025 • 38 mins
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Coming up into a second it's sound centered from zero
Hedge earlier today that I thought was fascinating about this
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And then there was.
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Digging into it a little bit behind the scenes that
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and there. All right, let's let's dig into these Let's
get in into some of the stories here. So first,
it's it's the market there. I guarantee this is just
the beginning of the run. Who knows how far down
it'll go, but they're gonna do this back and forth.
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We have volatility right now, and I think there's a
reason some of this is going to play out. The
fear on television is all part of it. Trump just
celebrated this first one hundred days. There's some great things happening,
but you get a report like this out enough for
people are gonna freak. There's a few more days this
week we may get more financial news that may may
tend to make people a little antsy. So anyway, that
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being said, it's nothing that people don't know. That's what's
what's interesting about this is not anything unexpected. I will
tell you what's happening in my in my estimation is
the pros no and they are watching the retail folks
who are panicking.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Retail would be people.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Like me and you, you know, making decisions based on
headlines and news and things like that that freak us out.
Not me and you, but you know the people you
know what I'm talking about, Those people in that in
that semi amateurs, they're making these poor decisions that's making
the market dropping.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
The pros are coming in and buying it up on the.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Cheap as as it happens, now drops seven hundred points
after first quarter GDP contracts, raising recession fears.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
All right, what is the actual.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Number at right now, let's see what we're looking at,
six eighty nine. All right, SMP down one hundred and thirteen,
NASDACK down four to forty seven. So those are just
a few. Here's what does zero had you talked about
earlier thing? So this earlier this morning, GDP was negative
because of only two components. Trader imports subtracted four point
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eight three percent off TARRA front running running the support
before the terrorists even took effect, and government subtracted zero
point two five percent, first negative government contribution since twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
This is mostly golden other tear front running imports and
reverses fully in Q two Q three, he says the
trade most imports was a four point eight percent hit
to the final negative point three percent GDP number Trade
most imports. Treasury says it's evaluating enhancements to buy back program,
not quantitive easy lots of numbers here. Rate cut to
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jump after ADP report weakest job growth since July twenty
twenty five. That's what we want anyway, we want the
we want the the interest rates.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
All right. So ADP private payrolls. This is jobs.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
ADP is a private it's a company and they do
payroll for people. Sixty two thousand, expected one hundred and
fifteen thousand, last one hundred and forty seven thousand. So
there's some shaking, there's some quake, and there's a little
bit of there's a little bit of antsiness happening in
the world right now. But I'm and don't don't let
it freak out too much. Listen, We give a pray
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to go. Highlights from day two and the officer Sure
trials they're underway right now and day three. Any more
(07:46):
economic news comes through and I'll let you know. But
this is this is from wood Tvaight, who's been following
this pretty closely and well that's not what we wanted.
We wanted this one.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
There we go, tell it. Tell the what this is.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
This is a Taser seven energy weapon. It is not
a gun.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
It is not a firearm. There's two cartridges. Each cartridge
has two probes. The overall purpose of a taser weapon
is to inject electrical signal into the.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Human body or animal shock you and overwrite the central
nervous system and tell the muscles to contract.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Now, when you talk about the contractions, you're not electric ure.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It doesn't like knock you out completely, is it.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
You're you're knocked out when this happened.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
No, you're fully aware of what's going on. You can
hear everything and feel it. No replacing. Is it designed
to it is a taser design to kill break people?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, what's it?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
What's it?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know it's not design to kill people.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
What exactly is it kind of designed for that?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's designed to contemporarily incapacitate.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Now you're hearing the prosecutor Chris Becker, asked these questions
because their whole case. You know, I'm going to tell
you this, the entire thing, all of it, By the way,
whether it's the prosecution or defense, is going to essentially rest.
It seems like to me anyway on this this taser.
(09:13):
So Prosecutor Becker, who again a lot of folks and
I feel the same way, should have never brought this case.
Now there's some question as to why he did. There's
some strategy thought. I'm not gonna get into all that
right now because I don't want to jinx any of this.
But he wants to make the case here that this
(09:37):
taser wasn't it wasn't a deadly weapon. And you know,
the whole point is that officers Sure shot Patrick Leoya because.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He was defending himself from the use.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Of that taser on it, because Leoia had his hand
on the taser according to the videotaping and everything else, testimony,
everything else we've seen, and he was in fear for
his life. So they're trying to take a part the
defense's argument that sure was in fear for his life,
which I don't know how you do that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I don't know how you.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I don't know how you could question the mind of
where the officer was. Clearly he was afraid for his life.
He's in a tussle with this guy. You can have
a conversation about how he got there and how it happened,
whether or not this should have happened or that should
have happened. But at that moment, Jason says, Okay, now
we're all going to be taser experts. No, but this
(10:35):
guy is from the manufacturer Axon, which also makes a
lot of the body cameras too, if I recall correctly.
But he's telling you how the taser works. He's telling
you that the taser is supposed He's going to say,
not lethal, but they can be. They have been in
the past, and particularly when you combine that with the
(10:55):
fact that they are meant to disable people. It's supposed
to be law enforcement use a less than lethal force
tooled to be able to incapacitate people and disable them
so that they can comply with your orders. That doesn't
(11:17):
always happen. It's not a perfect tool. No tool ever is.
But he's essentially that's the meaning, that's the use of
the thing. However, if you stack and combine this is
why I think it's a tricky argument. If I'm on
the jury, I'm I'm gonna say this. He said, Well,
they say the taser wasn't lethal, so I shouldn't think
that he was afraid for his life, but he also
(11:38):
had a firearm. He also had a gun on he
again used on patrick Leoya. So if the daser is
used to disable Officer Sure enough to the point that
patrick Leoya is able to wrestle the firearm away from sure,
I think it's reasonable to say the guy was in
fear for his life and that this was a case
(12:00):
of self defense.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I know people are going to disagree with me, and
you may even have a different idea thought on this,
but that's that's what we're doing. Is we're just walking
through what they discussed yesterday. So here he is talking
about that a drive stun.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
A lot of people call it a mode of the weapon.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But let me explain this first.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And because he's going through so what he said, there's
two different ways you can use this taser. One is
it has prongs, two cartridges with two prongs on each
that you can fire at people. And I believe they
have wires connecting them to so that there's a charge
going into the bus. So the prong, if I understand
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this correctly shoots out it's a cartridge, those two prongs
catch into me and then as you're pulling the trigger
and firing the charge, the electrical charges travel down those
wires into the prongs and then into my body, and
that causing me to become incapacitated or disabled briefly and temporarily.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
In the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The less than lethal force, however, it does, you know,
causes you seem to be able to like convulsion and
all that. So you've got two chances. If one doesn't work,
you got another chance. Then you have something else you have.
I believe I don't remember what he called it, but
it's it's the prongs that are attached to the unit.
That you could take the unit itself and contact the
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individual and hit them with a charge that way.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's what he's talking about right now.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Actually a tactic from an officer.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And drive stone is when dry weapon is activated and
driven into the body of the person to make contact.
Drive stone without probes causes pain, but it does not
cause the muscles to contract. In this incident, the deployment,
there was two trigger pulls that deployed both of the cartridges.
(13:54):
The first deployment there was no connection, was there a
second that there was, And it was done pretty much
with the muzzle of the weapon in the grass, and
so the probes just went directly into the Wet Grass Act.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Do the ax on materials and warnings tele officers that
the taser is no longer dangerous after both cartridges are deployed?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
No?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Could officer sure?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Now this is defense, This is the defense asking questions,
great question. Would he have been instructed that that taser
isn't dangerous after both of those have been deployed? Because
that's what prosecution once you can believe that, eh, there's
this thing wasn't dangerous at all? The defense asked that question,
and the expert says, no, no, that actually it is
(14:41):
still dangerous.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Well, have been at risk of suffering the effects of NMI, Yes, he.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Could in a mid stance for neuromuscular incapacitation.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Do you think that even with both cartridges deployed five
seconds passes that the taser still deserved its classification as
a serious weapon?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yes, all right, that's important because both of those questions,
is the taser still dangerous? Because prosecutor should try to
say that it's not dangerous, kind of trying to make
it sound like it wasn't deadly forced. So is the
taser still dangerous. Yes, yes, theger taser is still dangerous.
(15:23):
It can cause that neuromuscular incapacitation as we were talking
about earlier.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And then.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
On the other side of that that that other question
that I thought was really important. Let's rewind it so
we hear the word for word of it, exactly what
he said.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Because that was good.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Hang on, could Officer Sure still have been at risk
of suffering the effects of NMI?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All right?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yes, And do you think that even with both cartridges
deployed five seconds passes that the tasers still deserved its
classification as a serious weapon.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, all right, So I need you to hear that
this is important. The jury just heard that Patrick Leoya
had his hand on a serious weapon. The taser is
a serious weapon. I don't care when anybody else tells you.
The manufacturer, it doesn't matter what expert, armchair quarterback whoever.
The manufacturer just called it a serious weapon. So let's
(16:26):
stack it. Patrick Leeoya had his hand on a serious
weapon at the time that officers Sure discharged his firearm
in self defense against Patrick Leoya. Shut and dry. Point
in case we all saw this, the charges never should
have been brought. Now you might ask yourself why did
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they bring charges? And I just saw somebody speculating on
why the prosecutor, who is a Republican brought charges in
this case. I don't think it's the way you think.
I actually think it's there's a different reason. And again,
I'm not going to go into it all. I want
this thing to play out and we can armshare quarterback.
We can talk about it after the fact, and I'll
(17:07):
go in more depth and detail what I believe happened.
But I'll just say this, if he didn't bring charges,
you know that Attorney General Dana Nessell could have. That's
all I'm gonna say. I'm not going any further into this,
and I don't I don't know they just I've heard thoughts,
I heard conversations about things that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm no expert.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I can't tell you what people are thinking. But I
know Becker and I like him. You know, I don't
know him well, but the times that I've dealt with him,
I I thought I found him to be a reasonable individual.
I don't think it was reasonable to charge sure in
this situation. I really don't, and I be people don't
(17:52):
probably disagree with me. That's okay too. They also had
a use of force expert who uh who spoke yesterday,
so they have him on this. I believe he's wrapping
up today. We'll get more then they may put Christopher
Sure on the stand. There's some questions about his past,
but I don't think the prosecution are going to want
(18:13):
you hearing about who he really is, what kind of
a guy he is now. In fact, one of the
folks crime scene investigators from the GRPD, was asked about
him and his demeanor and the kind of person that
he was and how happy, go lucky, and what a
great guy he was. I don't think they want prosecution
wanted that out there either. But this is things that
(18:35):
you're hearing about you just can't wipe away. This guy had.
He was like a he was like a boy scout.
He was going off on missions to Africa help people
see because what the media and the way that some
of the folks want to paint this guy in this cases,
it was all about race and that he was racist,
(18:57):
and that couldn't be further from the truth, at least
from it sounds all right. So here is the use
of force expert. I'm gonna agree with a few things
that he says here, but I also disagree with a
few as well.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
What are the tactical risks of what the officer is
doing and what is the benefit of what the officer
is doing? And in policing, a threat exists when the
individual that the officer is interacting with has the ability,
the opportunity, and the apparent intention to cause some kind
of harm to the officer or others. My understanding is
(19:29):
that there was an improperly displayed license plate on the car.
That's traffic infraction. So stopping a car for that reason
is consistent with generally accepted principles.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Right, they're going to walk through the different levels of
what happened and how it happened. Okay, so this is
stopping the car? Was he should he have stopped the car?
Allcause there are people to say, you never should have
stopped just because he had a license plate.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You shouldn't have been that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well's that's full opportunity to stop the car. The license
plate doesn't make at Let's pull him over and say
what's going on. That may have been other things that
led to that, but practice isn't policing.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Officer sure's attempt to grab Patrick as he after he
got out of the car and began to walk away,
or driving someone who's attempting to walk away is perfectly
consistent with generally accepting principles and practices and policing.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
What about the decision to chase him around the car?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
What about that? That's where we start to run into issues.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Now what you're about to hear because he said some
pretty reasonable comment sense things so far. Bali Sharon said,
this guy is somebody who testified at George Floyd's trial.
What this guy's about to tell you is he's going
to paint the picture of the sorows backed da world.
You're going to hear some of the things, some of
the limp wristed, horrible things he says. Of what makes
(20:54):
is what is actually what makes our our cities in
these areas much more dangerous. Listen to what he would
have had this is armshare quarterbacking. What he would have
had sure do.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
This creates some tactical concerns, And the reason it creates
some tactical concerns is because there is another individual in
that car.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
All right, I agree with that, you know, maybe that
puts the officer at risk.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I agree with that.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
The reason that running past is tactic again reasonable because
if he got out with a gun and shot the
officer in the back of the head, the officer would
not see it coming. In this particular case, it would
have been feasible in this case to give a specific
warning about the use of deadly force.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Pro Now he wants, he wants sure to give a
warning of use to deadly force. He wants to warn
the man who's got his hand on the.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Taser. If you don't stop, I'm gonna shoot you. Look you.
I hate to say this, this is just absolut the
whole thing is horrific.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But we've got to get back to the world that
is reality, that if you play stupid games, you win
stupid prizes. And I hate to say it that way,
because we've got a loss of life here. And I
believe all life is precious. Yes, Patrick's life was precious,
but Soo's officers. Sure life and all of this could
have been avoided if Patrick wouldn't have ran, if he
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wouldn't have been so drunk at the time, apparently, according
to reports, if he would.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Have just complied.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now, I understand that's a lot of people are gonna
be very sensitive about that. But you know what, when
you comply with police, chances are a lot of times
and they're giving lawful orders. Particularly in those situations, you're
gonna You're gonna go home.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He may have went to jail, but he would have
also been alive today. He never would have talked about this.
So this is where we start to get into the
weeds on this weird policy. Listen to what he wants
to happen. He wants him to give a warning. Then
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he says it's just if he gets away, just let
him go.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Prior to prior to that use of.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Force, a reasonable officer, somebody situated reasonable officer made the
decision to fire in the circumstance.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
No, in order to justify a use of deadly force,
it's generally accepted in police saying that there has to
be an imminent threat of death or great bodily.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Harm, which was what happened with the taser. This guy
lost all credibility. You actually have the manufacturer on the
stands saying that Patrick Leia had his hand on a
dangerous weapon, and now you got this guy saying that
there's no it wouldn't be reasonable for sure to say
that he felt like he was in danger of great
bodily harm or death. This guy completely off the road.
(23:51):
He's just completely off the realm of any sort of
credibility at this point.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
That is, the subject has to have or to be
entirely perfe uh reasonably appear, based on the information available,
have the ability, the opportunity, and the intention to cause
serious bodily injury or death in my.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Odd and had all three. He had all three. Now
he's going to say, in my opinion, but we don't
care what your opinion is. I know the prosecution might care,
but opinions, the opinions don't matter. This is a court
of law. What we need is facts. Your opinion isn't
a fact. Okay, that was lacking in this case. So
there you have it. That guy's a clown. There's nothing
(24:33):
more I could say about that. He's a clown. What
he wanted to do, what he suggested should happen is
he suggested that sure should let let him go, let
him run away. Then they could have got a warrant.
That's that's what I heard the testimony when he said
they could have got a warrant for they knew who
(24:54):
they knew who he was, Well, how did they know
who he was because the plate didn't match the car.
On top of that, even if they did let the
guy run away and we'll get a warrant for him,
we'll catch him.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't know about you, but back in twenty twenty,
maybe that flew and I guess this case actually happened.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What was this?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Was this three years ago? So twenty two maybe even
this would have flown. But this doesn't fly today. If
the country overrun with criminal illegals. And I'm not saying
Patrick was, but what I'm saying with the country overrun
by people who were criminals and shouldn't be in this
country in the first place, you can argue in several
different ways with that, the idea that you just let
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people run away and get away with what they did,
What do they do go on to hurt and kill
someone else. We've seen this over and over and over again.
Cherry has had been proven the officer intentionally pulled the trigger.
He was still struggling with the subject, looked to me
like he was trying to get up and ran away
from him when the gun went off.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I don't know that's a good question, Jason said, if
you let your bag guy go, you're responsible for what
he does to innocent people. And again, don't forget when
this ever heard this guy three sheets to the wind,
drunk as a skunk at eight o'clock in the morning,
and the people they had, the friends that they had
that were testifying and as witnesses, didn't do him any favors,
(26:23):
didn't do a prosecution any favors. By the way, now
you may be picking up on why I say there
may have been a strategy to bring this to trial.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And trying to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And by the way, I've been very careful about how
I want to handle this, and I think we all
ought to be not to fall into sensational We ought
to be very just, I think even level on this,
not to fall into sensationalism on either side, because they're
going to try and pull us into that fighting with
each other. But this guy went by the way that
(26:59):
whole policy have let him run, like let them flee.
That's what put everybody, that's what put everybody in danger,
and all these.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Big Soros DA cities.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I I hate that this is the outcome. I
hate that someone is dead I hated that Patrick lost
his life. But at the end of the day, this
trial and what I've seen so far, there has been
nothing to sway my thought my mind that officer Sure
(27:33):
reasonably acted to defend himself in that moment. Again, I
hate that has happened. I hate it. You know, there's
a lot of questions about what they could do to
make sure that this didn't happen. Well, two officers in
a car, which Grand Rapids Police Department refuses to do
and take more funding, but two officers in a car
(27:53):
at a time will go a long way to make
sure something like this doesn't happen. So you're on day
three of this trial, and as I mentioned, it's still
coming out.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Again.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
We saw a big splash the first day. We saw
a sort of a protest type of thing that occurred
the day before.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And then a rally for the officer.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The day of the beginning of the kickoff of the
trial opening statements at DAN one. Now we're on day three,
so here's what's happening. Another request directed verdict. After asking
for a mistrial, Sure's legal team asked Judge Christina Mems
for a directed verdict. A directed verdict request is essentially
asking the judge to take the decision out of the
(28:46):
hands of the jury because the prosecution has not offered
sufficient evidence to prove Christopher Sure's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
So they've asked for a mistrial. They've asked for a
directed verdict. The prosecution has rested its case and now
we're going to get into the rest of the story.
(29:07):
Today we heard more about officer incapacitation under cross examination.
Use of lethal force expert Nicholas Bloomfield says he knows
of no case where an officer disarmed of his taser
has been incapacitated by a suspect, but it could happen,
and that's in the back of their mind. It doesn't
matter whether you know of a case or not. Unreasonable,
(29:27):
excessive and contrary expert.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Uh, these they always say, these experts they come up.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
By the way, these are all prosecution experts, so they're
going to say exactly what the prosecution wants them to say.
That's what's happened this morning. So those are the big
news stories so far. Defenses asked for a mistrial and
(29:54):
they've asked for a directed verdict. This was nine minutes ago.
According to reports, So we'll have updates on these stories.
We'll get into to that one specifically. Try and windy
weather today responsible for a no burn alert and Grand
Rapids folks are keeping an eye on that. And this
is something I didn't get a chance to talk about
(30:14):
this today, And man, I really it's a big one
that I think we should be we should be all
in on. The White House has listed dozens of hoaxes
pushed by the media and critics in Trump's first hundred days. Now,
I saw CNN today had some list of all the
lies that President Trump has told, and I think it's
(30:37):
absolutely ridiculous. CNN reveals themselves to be absolutely clown world every.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Day with the cutna of the kind of thing that
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But the White House has come out with a list
and look at it. Executive orders one forty two, nation
wide injunctions seventeen. These are the hundred days, by the numbers.
By the way, deportation sixty five thousand, hostage releases twenties.
So you go through all those. But here's a great one,
a great list. The administration went on the list fifty
seven purported hoaxes spread by the President's critics to media
(31:08):
and Democrats and a great press release hoax. Representative Eric
Swallow claimed no president presided over more plane crashes.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
During their first month. I can't like he'd control over that. Well,
that was wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Data from the Department of Transportation indicated the more plane
crashes occurred during the first few weeks of then President
Biden's term, as there were fifty five aviation accidents in
the US between Biden's inauguration on January twenty first, twenty
twenty one in February seventeenth, twenty twenty one, compared to
thirty five. So twenty fewer, isn't that interesting? Another one
(31:46):
fake news CNN attempted to fact check President Trump claiming
that Biden administration spent millions on making mice transgender. The
administration said, While sen in journalist T Driff McPhillips initially
asserted that President Trump falsely claim that while the Department
of Government Efficiency identified eight million dollars will spend on
making mice transgender, CNN eventually corrected this claim. The White
(32:10):
House list made clear what Trump in the speech did not.
The studies were meant to figure out how these treatments
might affect the health of humans who take them, not
for the purpose of making mice transgender. The fact check
now reads an earlier version of this item incorrectly characterized
as false Trump's claim about federal money. So see even that,
(32:33):
and there are people still to this day, and they
will bring stuff like this up. Liberals, the lefties. They'll
come on this page. They'll talk about this stuff every day.
They'll be like, what about your Dat's why this stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
The details matter, It's important to other hooks.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
JB.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Pritzker, Governor of Illinois. Chicago Public School's officials claim without
bothering to verify that ICE agents had conducted or.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Rate remember that one they they just were raiding.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
An elementary school, false claim echoed by the media, including
the Chicago Tribune. The administration said the Chicago Tribune had
initially published an article headline Ice agents denied entry at
Chicago Elementary School. CEEPS official say the articles headline since
been overhauled to read reported ICE visit to Chicago school
was actually Secret Service official say, so you see it's
(33:26):
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that I don't fit. I don't feel like even we
got to spend enough time on. But it was another
great story. President Trump and Jonathan carl from ABC, back
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and forth.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't have the time to play all this. I
wish I could.
Speaker 8 (35:12):
Do.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
You think the reputation of the United States has gone
down under your presidency?
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think we're respected country again. We were left at all
over the world. We had a president that couldn't walk
up a flight of stairs, couldn't walk down a flight
of stairs, couldn't walk across the stage without falling. We
had a president that was grossly incompetent.
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You knew it. I knew it, and everybody knew it.
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fake news.
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Is one of the worst.
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I have to be honest, Okay, thank you do you
think the reputation, by the.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Way, ABC is one of the worst.
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So good, it's so good. Like I said, I got
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we'll be able to make sure we get it all in,
but I'll put it in the stack and maybe we
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James Dixon's going to join us tomorrow and then Friday,
Kyle Olson.
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Here anywhere else now dropping seven hundred points after first
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and there. All right, let's let's dig into these Let's
get in into some of the stories here. So first,
it's it's the market there. I guarantee this is just
the beginning of the run. Who knows how far down
it'll go, but they're gonna do this back and forth.
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We have volatility right now, and I think there's a
reason some of this is going to play out. The
fear on television is all part of it. Trump just
celebrated this first one hundred days. There's some great things happening,
but you get a report like this out enough for
people are gonna freak. There's a few more days this
week we may get more financial news that may may
tend to make people a little antsy. So anyway, that
(04:47):
being said, it's nothing that people don't know. That's what's
what's interesting about this is not anything unexpected. I will
tell you what's happening in my in my estimation is
the pros no and they are watching the retail folks
who are panicking.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Retail would be people.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Like me and you, you know, making decisions based on
headlines and news and things like that that freak us out.
Not me and you, but you know the people you
know what I'm talking about, Those people in that in
that semi amateurs, they're making these poor decisions that's making
the market dropping.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
The pros are coming in and buying it up on the.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Cheap as as it happens, now drops seven hundred points
after first quarter GDP contracts, raising recession fears.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
All right, what is the actual.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Number at right now, let's see what we're looking at,
six eighty nine. All right, SMP down one hundred and thirteen,
NASDACK down four to forty seven. So those are just
a few. Here's what does zero had you talked about
earlier thing? So this earlier this morning, GDP was negative
because of only two components. Trader imports subtracted four point
(05:57):
eight three percent off TARRA front running running the support
before the terrorists even took effect, and government subtracted zero
point two five percent, first negative government contribution since twenty
twenty two.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
This is mostly golden other tear front running imports and
reverses fully in Q two Q three, he says the
trade most imports was a four point eight percent hit
to the final negative point three percent GDP number Trade
most imports. Treasury says it's evaluating enhancements to buy back program,
not quantitive easy lots of numbers here. Rate cut to
(06:41):
jump after ADP report weakest job growth since July twenty
twenty five. That's what we want anyway, we want the
we want the the interest rates.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
All right. So ADP private payrolls. This is jobs.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
ADP is a private it's a company and they do
payroll for people. Sixty two thousand, expected one hundred and
fifteen thousand, last one hundred and forty seven thousand. So
there's some shaking, there's some quake, and there's a little
bit of there's a little bit of antsiness happening in
the world right now. But I'm and don't don't let
it freak out too much. Listen, We give a pray
(07:23):
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to go. Highlights from day two and the officer Sure
trials they're underway right now and day three. Any more
(07:46):
economic news comes through and I'll let you know. But
this is this is from wood Tvaight, who's been following
this pretty closely and well that's not what we wanted.
We wanted this one.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
There we go, tell it. Tell the what this is.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
This is a Taser seven energy weapon. It is not
a gun.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
It is not a firearm. There's two cartridges. Each cartridge
has two probes. The overall purpose of a taser weapon
is to inject electrical signal into the.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Human body or animal shock you and overwrite the central
nervous system and tell the muscles to contract.
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Now, when you talk about the contractions, you're not electric ure.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It doesn't like knock you out completely, is it.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
You're you're knocked out when this happened.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
No, you're fully aware of what's going on. You can
hear everything and feel it. No replacing. Is it designed
to it is a taser design to kill break people?
Speaker 1 (08:42):
No, what's it?
Speaker 6 (08:43):
What's it?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
You know it's not design to kill people.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
What exactly is it kind of designed for that?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
It's designed to contemporarily incapacitate.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Now you're hearing the prosecutor Chris Becker, asked these questions
because their whole case. You know, I'm going to tell
you this, the entire thing, all of it, By the way,
whether it's the prosecution or defense, is going to essentially rest.
It seems like to me anyway on this this taser.
(09:13):
So Prosecutor Becker, who again a lot of folks and
I feel the same way, should have never brought this case.
Now there's some question as to why he did. There's
some strategy thought. I'm not gonna get into all that
right now because I don't want to jinx any of this.
But he wants to make the case here that this
(09:37):
taser wasn't it wasn't a deadly weapon. And you know,
the whole point is that officers Sure shot Patrick Leoya because.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
He was defending himself from the use.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Of that taser on it, because Leoia had his hand
on the taser according to the videotaping and everything else, testimony,
everything else we've seen, and he was in fear for
his life. So they're trying to take a part the
defense's argument that sure was in fear for his life,
which I don't know how you do that.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I don't know how you.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I don't know how you could question the mind of
where the officer was. Clearly he was afraid for his life.
He's in a tussle with this guy. You can have
a conversation about how he got there and how it happened,
whether or not this should have happened or that should
have happened. But at that moment, Jason says, Okay, now
we're all going to be taser experts. No, but this
(10:35):
guy is from the manufacturer Axon, which also makes a
lot of the body cameras too, if I recall correctly.
But he's telling you how the taser works. He's telling
you that the taser is supposed He's going to say,
not lethal, but they can be. They have been in
the past, and particularly when you combine that with the
(10:55):
fact that they are meant to disable people. It's supposed
to be law enforcement use a less than lethal force
tooled to be able to incapacitate people and disable them
so that they can comply with your orders. That doesn't
(11:17):
always happen. It's not a perfect tool. No tool ever is.
But he's essentially that's the meaning, that's the use of
the thing. However, if you stack and combine this is
why I think it's a tricky argument. If I'm on
the jury, I'm I'm gonna say this. He said, Well,
they say the taser wasn't lethal, so I shouldn't think
that he was afraid for his life, but he also
(11:38):
had a firearm. He also had a gun on he
again used on patrick Leoya. So if the daser is
used to disable Officer Sure enough to the point that
patrick Leoya is able to wrestle the firearm away from sure,
I think it's reasonable to say the guy was in
fear for his life and that this was a case
(12:00):
of self defense.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
That's just me.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I know people are going to disagree with me, and
you may even have a different idea thought on this,
but that's that's what we're doing. Is we're just walking
through what they discussed yesterday. So here he is talking
about that a drive stun.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
A lot of people call it a mode of the weapon.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
But let me explain this first.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
And because he's going through so what he said, there's
two different ways you can use this taser. One is
it has prongs, two cartridges with two prongs on each
that you can fire at people. And I believe they
have wires connecting them to so that there's a charge
going into the bus. So the prong, if I understand
(12:44):
this correctly shoots out it's a cartridge, those two prongs
catch into me and then as you're pulling the trigger
and firing the charge, the electrical charges travel down those
wires into the prongs and then into my body, and
that causing me to become incapacitated or disabled briefly and temporarily.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
In the moment.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The less than lethal force, however, it does, you know,
causes you seem to be able to like convulsion and
all that. So you've got two chances. If one doesn't work,
you got another chance. Then you have something else you have.
I believe I don't remember what he called it, but
it's it's the prongs that are attached to the unit.
That you could take the unit itself and contact the
(13:23):
individual and hit them with a charge that way.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
That's what he's talking about right now.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Actually a tactic from an officer.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
And drive stone is when dry weapon is activated and
driven into the body of the person to make contact.
Drive stone without probes causes pain, but it does not
cause the muscles to contract. In this incident, the deployment,
there was two trigger pulls that deployed both of the cartridges.
(13:54):
The first deployment there was no connection, was there a
second that there was, And it was done pretty much
with the muzzle of the weapon in the grass, and
so the probes just went directly into the Wet Grass Act.
Speaker 6 (14:10):
Do the ax on materials and warnings tele officers that
the taser is no longer dangerous after both cartridges are deployed?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
No?
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Could officer sure?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Now this is defense, This is the defense asking questions,
great question. Would he have been instructed that that taser
isn't dangerous after both of those have been deployed? Because
that's what prosecution once you can believe that, eh, there's
this thing wasn't dangerous at all? The defense asked that question,
and the expert says, no, no, that actually it is
(14:41):
still dangerous.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
Well, have been at risk of suffering the effects of NMI, Yes, he.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Could in a mid stance for neuromuscular incapacitation.
Speaker 6 (14:49):
Do you think that even with both cartridges deployed five
seconds passes that the taser still deserved its classification as
a serious weapon?
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yes, all right, that's important because both of those questions,
is the taser still dangerous? Because prosecutor should try to
say that it's not dangerous, kind of trying to make
it sound like it wasn't deadly forced. So is the
taser still dangerous. Yes, yes, theger taser is still dangerous.
(15:23):
It can cause that neuromuscular incapacitation as we were talking
about earlier.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And then.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
On the other side of that that that other question
that I thought was really important. Let's rewind it so
we hear the word for word of it, exactly what
he said.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Because that was good.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Hang on, could Officer Sure still have been at risk
of suffering the effects of NMI?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
All right?
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yes, And do you think that even with both cartridges
deployed five seconds passes that the tasers still deserved its
classification as a serious weapon.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yes, all right, So I need you to hear that
this is important. The jury just heard that Patrick Leoya
had his hand on a serious weapon. The taser is
a serious weapon. I don't care when anybody else tells you.
The manufacturer, it doesn't matter what expert, armchair quarterback whoever.
The manufacturer just called it a serious weapon. So let's
(16:26):
stack it. Patrick Leeoya had his hand on a serious
weapon at the time that officers Sure discharged his firearm
in self defense against Patrick Leoya. Shut and dry. Point
in case we all saw this, the charges never should
have been brought. Now you might ask yourself why did
(16:47):
they bring charges? And I just saw somebody speculating on
why the prosecutor, who is a Republican brought charges in
this case. I don't think it's the way you think.
I actually think it's there's a different reason. And again,
I'm not going to go into it all. I want
this thing to play out and we can armshare quarterback.
We can talk about it after the fact, and I'll
(17:07):
go in more depth and detail what I believe happened.
But I'll just say this, if he didn't bring charges,
you know that Attorney General Dana Nessell could have. That's
all I'm gonna say. I'm not going any further into this,
and I don't I don't know they just I've heard thoughts,
I heard conversations about things that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
I'm no expert.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
I can't tell you what people are thinking. But I
know Becker and I like him. You know, I don't
know him well, but the times that I've dealt with him,
I I thought I found him to be a reasonable individual.
I don't think it was reasonable to charge sure in
this situation. I really don't, and I be people don't
(17:52):
probably disagree with me. That's okay too. They also had
a use of force expert who uh who spoke yesterday,
so they have him on this. I believe he's wrapping
up today. We'll get more then they may put Christopher
Sure on the stand. There's some questions about his past,
but I don't think the prosecution are going to want
(18:13):
you hearing about who he really is, what kind of
a guy he is now. In fact, one of the
folks crime scene investigators from the GRPD, was asked about
him and his demeanor and the kind of person that
he was and how happy, go lucky, and what a
great guy he was. I don't think they want prosecution
wanted that out there either. But this is things that
(18:35):
you're hearing about you just can't wipe away. This guy had.
He was like a he was like a boy scout.
He was going off on missions to Africa help people
see because what the media and the way that some
of the folks want to paint this guy in this cases,
it was all about race and that he was racist,
(18:57):
and that couldn't be further from the truth, at least
from it sounds all right. So here is the use
of force expert. I'm gonna agree with a few things
that he says here, but I also disagree with a
few as well.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
What are the tactical risks of what the officer is
doing and what is the benefit of what the officer
is doing? And in policing, a threat exists when the
individual that the officer is interacting with has the ability,
the opportunity, and the apparent intention to cause some kind
of harm to the officer or others. My understanding is
(19:29):
that there was an improperly displayed license plate on the car.
That's traffic infraction. So stopping a car for that reason
is consistent with generally accepted principles.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Right, they're going to walk through the different levels of
what happened and how it happened. Okay, so this is
stopping the car? Was he should he have stopped the car?
Allcause there are people to say, you never should have
stopped just because he had a license plate.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You shouldn't have been that.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Well's that's full opportunity to stop the car. The license
plate doesn't make at Let's pull him over and say
what's going on. That may have been other things that
led to that, but practice isn't policing.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Officer sure's attempt to grab Patrick as he after he
got out of the car and began to walk away,
or driving someone who's attempting to walk away is perfectly
consistent with generally accepting principles and practices and policing.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
What about the decision to chase him around the car?
Speaker 7 (20:23):
What about that? That's where we start to run into issues.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Now what you're about to hear because he said some
pretty reasonable comment sense things so far. Bali Sharon said,
this guy is somebody who testified at George Floyd's trial.
What this guy's about to tell you is he's going
to paint the picture of the sorows backed da world.
You're going to hear some of the things, some of
the limp wristed, horrible things he says. Of what makes
(20:54):
is what is actually what makes our our cities in
these areas much more dangerous. Listen to what he would
have had this is armshare quarterbacking. What he would have
had sure do.
Speaker 7 (21:06):
This creates some tactical concerns, And the reason it creates
some tactical concerns is because there is another individual in
that car.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
All right, I agree with that, you know, maybe that
puts the officer at risk.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I agree with that.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
The reason that running past is tactic again reasonable because
if he got out with a gun and shot the
officer in the back of the head, the officer would
not see it coming. In this particular case, it would
have been feasible in this case to give a specific
warning about the use of deadly force.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Pro Now he wants, he wants sure to give a
warning of use to deadly force. He wants to warn
the man who's got his hand on the.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Taser. If you don't stop, I'm gonna shoot you. Look you.
I hate to say this, this is just absolut the
whole thing is horrific.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
But we've got to get back to the world that
is reality, that if you play stupid games, you win
stupid prizes. And I hate to say it that way,
because we've got a loss of life here. And I
believe all life is precious. Yes, Patrick's life was precious,
but Soo's officers. Sure life and all of this could
have been avoided if Patrick wouldn't have ran, if he
(22:21):
wouldn't have been so drunk at the time, apparently, according
to reports, if he would.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Have just complied.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Now, I understand that's a lot of people are gonna
be very sensitive about that. But you know what, when
you comply with police, chances are a lot of times
and they're giving lawful orders. Particularly in those situations, you're
gonna You're gonna go home.
Speaker 8 (22:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
He may have went to jail, but he would have
also been alive today. He never would have talked about this.
So this is where we start to get into the
weeds on this weird policy. Listen to what he wants
to happen. He wants him to give a warning. Then
(23:06):
he says it's just if he gets away, just let
him go.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Prior to prior to that use of.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Force, a reasonable officer, somebody situated reasonable officer made the
decision to fire in the circumstance.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
No, in order to justify a use of deadly force,
it's generally accepted in police saying that there has to
be an imminent threat of death or great bodily.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Harm, which was what happened with the taser. This guy
lost all credibility. You actually have the manufacturer on the
stands saying that Patrick Leia had his hand on a
dangerous weapon, and now you got this guy saying that
there's no it wouldn't be reasonable for sure to say
that he felt like he was in danger of great
bodily harm or death. This guy completely off the road.
(23:51):
He's just completely off the realm of any sort of
credibility at this point.
Speaker 7 (23:55):
That is, the subject has to have or to be
entirely perfe uh reasonably appear, based on the information available,
have the ability, the opportunity, and the intention to cause
serious bodily injury or death in my.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Odd and had all three. He had all three. Now
he's going to say, in my opinion, but we don't
care what your opinion is. I know the prosecution might care,
but opinions, the opinions don't matter. This is a court
of law. What we need is facts. Your opinion isn't
a fact. Okay, that was lacking in this case. So
there you have it. That guy's a clown. There's nothing
(24:33):
more I could say about that. He's a clown. What
he wanted to do, what he suggested should happen is
he suggested that sure should let let him go, let
him run away. Then they could have got a warrant.
That's that's what I heard the testimony when he said
they could have got a warrant for they knew who
(24:54):
they knew who he was, Well, how did they know
who he was because the plate didn't match the car.
On top of that, even if they did let the
guy run away and we'll get a warrant for him,
we'll catch him.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
I don't know about you, but back in twenty twenty,
maybe that flew and I guess this case actually happened.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
What was this?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Was this three years ago? So twenty two maybe even
this would have flown. But this doesn't fly today. If
the country overrun with criminal illegals. And I'm not saying
Patrick was, but what I'm saying with the country overrun
by people who were criminals and shouldn't be in this
country in the first place, you can argue in several
different ways with that, the idea that you just let
(25:38):
people run away and get away with what they did,
What do they do go on to hurt and kill
someone else. We've seen this over and over and over again.
Cherry has had been proven the officer intentionally pulled the trigger.
He was still struggling with the subject, looked to me
like he was trying to get up and ran away
from him when the gun went off.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
That's interesting.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I don't know that's a good question, Jason said, if
you let your bag guy go, you're responsible for what
he does to innocent people. And again, don't forget when
this ever heard this guy three sheets to the wind,
drunk as a skunk at eight o'clock in the morning,
and the people they had, the friends that they had
that were testifying and as witnesses, didn't do him any favors,
(26:23):
didn't do a prosecution any favors. By the way, now
you may be picking up on why I say there
may have been a strategy to bring this to trial.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And trying to do it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
And by the way, I've been very careful about how
I want to handle this, and I think we all
ought to be not to fall into sensational We ought
to be very just, I think even level on this,
not to fall into sensationalism on either side, because they're
going to try and pull us into that fighting with
each other. But this guy went by the way that
(26:59):
whole policy have let him run, like let them flee.
That's what put everybody, that's what put everybody in danger,
and all these.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Big Soros DA cities.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
So I I hate that this is the outcome. I
hate that someone is dead I hated that Patrick lost
his life. But at the end of the day, this
trial and what I've seen so far, there has been
nothing to sway my thought my mind that officer Sure
(27:33):
reasonably acted to defend himself in that moment. Again, I
hate that has happened. I hate it. You know, there's
a lot of questions about what they could do to
make sure that this didn't happen. Well, two officers in
a car, which Grand Rapids Police Department refuses to do
and take more funding, but two officers in a car
(27:53):
at a time will go a long way to make
sure something like this doesn't happen. So you're on day
three of this trial, and as I mentioned, it's still
coming out.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Again.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
We saw a big splash the first day. We saw
a sort of a protest type of thing that occurred
the day before.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And then a rally for the officer.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
The day of the beginning of the kickoff of the
trial opening statements at DAN one. Now we're on day three,
so here's what's happening. Another request directed verdict. After asking
for a mistrial, Sure's legal team asked Judge Christina Mems
for a directed verdict. A directed verdict request is essentially
asking the judge to take the decision out of the
(28:46):
hands of the jury because the prosecution has not offered
sufficient evidence to prove Christopher Sure's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
So they've asked for a mistrial. They've asked for a
directed verdict. The prosecution has rested its case and now
we're going to get into the rest of the story.
(29:07):
Today we heard more about officer incapacitation under cross examination.
Use of lethal force expert Nicholas Bloomfield says he knows
of no case where an officer disarmed of his taser
has been incapacitated by a suspect, but it could happen,
and that's in the back of their mind. It doesn't
matter whether you know of a case or not. Unreasonable,
(29:27):
excessive and contrary expert.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Uh, these they always say, these experts they come up.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
By the way, these are all prosecution experts, so they're
going to say exactly what the prosecution wants them to say.
That's what's happened this morning. So those are the big
news stories so far. Defenses asked for a mistrial and
(29:54):
they've asked for a directed verdict. This was nine minutes ago.
According to reports, So we'll have updates on these stories.
We'll get into to that one specifically. Try and windy
weather today responsible for a no burn alert and Grand
Rapids folks are keeping an eye on that. And this
is something I didn't get a chance to talk about
(30:14):
this today, And man, I really it's a big one
that I think we should be we should be all
in on. The White House has listed dozens of hoaxes
pushed by the media and critics in Trump's first hundred days. Now,
I saw CNN today had some list of all the
lies that President Trump has told, and I think it's
(30:37):
absolutely ridiculous. CNN reveals themselves to be absolutely clown world every.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Day with the cutna of the kind of thing that
they're doing.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
But the White House has come out with a list
and look at it. Executive orders one forty two, nation
wide injunctions seventeen. These are the hundred days, by the numbers.
By the way, deportation sixty five thousand, hostage releases twenties.
So you go through all those. But here's a great one,
a great list. The administration went on the list fifty
seven purported hoaxes spread by the President's critics to media
(31:08):
and Democrats and a great press release hoax. Representative Eric
Swallow claimed no president presided over more plane crashes.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
During their first month. I can't like he'd control over that. Well,
that was wrong.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
Data from the Department of Transportation indicated the more plane
crashes occurred during the first few weeks of then President
Biden's term, as there were fifty five aviation accidents in
the US between Biden's inauguration on January twenty first, twenty
twenty one in February seventeenth, twenty twenty one, compared to
thirty five. So twenty fewer, isn't that interesting? Another one
(31:46):
fake news CNN attempted to fact check President Trump claiming
that Biden administration spent millions on making mice transgender. The
administration said, While sen in journalist T Driff McPhillips initially
asserted that President Trump falsely claim that while the Department
of Government Efficiency identified eight million dollars will spend on
making mice transgender, CNN eventually corrected this claim. The White
(32:10):
House list made clear what Trump in the speech did not.
The studies were meant to figure out how these treatments
might affect the health of humans who take them, not
for the purpose of making mice transgender. The fact check
now reads an earlier version of this item incorrectly characterized
as false Trump's claim about federal money. So see even that,
(32:33):
and there are people still to this day, and they
will bring stuff like this up. Liberals, the lefties. They'll
come on this page. They'll talk about this stuff every day.
They'll be like, what about your Dat's why this stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:49):
The details matter, It's important to other hooks.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
JB.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Pritzker, Governor of Illinois. Chicago Public School's officials claim without
bothering to verify that ICE agents had conducted or.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Rate remember that one they they just were raiding.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
An elementary school, false claim echoed by the media, including
the Chicago Tribune. The administration said the Chicago Tribune had
initially published an article headline Ice agents denied entry at
Chicago Elementary School. CEEPS official say the articles headline since
been overhauled to read reported ICE visit to Chicago school
was actually Secret Service official say, so you see it's
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Speaker 1 (35:09):
I don't have the time to play all this. I
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Speaker 8 (35:12):
Do.
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You think the reputation of the United States has gone
down under your presidency?
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over the world. We had a president that couldn't walk
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