Sky High Secrets: How a Military Safety Officer Became a Climate Trails Whistleblower w/ Kristen Meghan Kelly

Sky High Secrets: How a Military Safety Officer Became a Climate Trails Whistleblower - Kristen Meghan Kelly

Industrial hygienist & Air Force veteran Kristen Meghan joins Justin to break down weather modification, why she says “chemtrails” is the wrong term, and the evidence that pushed her from skeptic to whistleblower. We talk credibility, health impacts, and how to stop it at the policy level.

Timestamps (mm:ss)
00:00 Cold open + intro
02:30 Kristen’s background (AF bio-env. engineering)
06:45 What “SAI” is vs. cloud seeding; why terms matter
10:04 Trailer + how to watch Climate Trails
13:40 Whistleblower arc: threats, legal protection, smears
18:50 How application allegedly works; why “fuel additive” claims fall short
22:45 Credibility rules: evidence, not memes
26:10 Health impacts & synergistic toxicity
28:55 What would stop it: state bills, a federal ban
33:10 Broader health agency skepticism; CDC & reform talk
40:55 Call to action: contact Congress; support transparency
51:30 Where to follow Kristen (X & TikTok)

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Episode Transcript

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(00:42):
Justin Barclay. Well, you know, Kristin Megan Kelly is a
friend of the show and she goes back along with
the I call him the dynamic duo. Kristin Megan Kelly
and Tammy Clark go back back to like twenty twenty

(01:03):
in the COVID days. We're looking for answers and as
industrial hygienis be able to talk to her and Tammy
and it actually you can blame us forgetting those two
together in all the trouble they've caused, sense, but we
wanted answers, and I think at a time like this,
you know what's interesting is now I call it to

(01:24):
find out Aaron, lots of things are coming out. In fact,
some of the things that are near there to her
heart is what actually got her really first involved. And
I think a lot of this all to seen some
things that you may not have known about. And she's
involved now in a brand new documentary that's coming out.
In fact, you'll be able to watch it very soon.

(01:45):
That documentary is hitting the screens shortly. Climate Trails. Are
you Feeling under the Weather is the name of the documentary,
and Christian joins us now to talk about it. Kristen,
welcome and appreciate you being here with us. And yeah,
I just I thought this was really fascinating because it
gives people an idea of who you are, like where

(02:06):
you came from, where all of this sort of interest
and really activism kind of kind of came from. So well,
come in, you're no stranger to the program. But this
is something that I don't know that we've we've maybe
scratched a surface on it barely in our conversations before,
but this is something that you go in depth in

(02:27):
the film on and I thought it would be cool
to give people your background.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, it's always great to talk with you, justin and
you know, I'm so glad. I don't even know where
to start here because a lot of people that follow
you and your show and your podcast know me as
like the mask lady that exposed the improper controls throughout
the craziness of twenty twenty onward. And I've kind of

(02:55):
had my hand in activism since around two thousand and seven.
And what law me into the public eye was my
whistle blowing. And I have blown the whistles simultaneously on
two issues while exiting the Air Force, and which was
the military involvement, specifically where I was stationed being involved
in weather modification.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
And to some.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
People that doesn't seem spicy, But the problem is the
type of programs that I uncovered involved utilizing the very toxic,
which is a word that I engineered out of the
workplace because they're carcinogenic. They can cost across the blood, brain,
barrier and are harmful to human environmental health. I expose

(03:40):
that it was about sixteen years ago, and if you
told me ten years ago that now we would have
states putting bills banning this, whether it actually works, because
I think it needs to be banned on a federal level.
The awareness and more people coming forward is just it's
shocking to me.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
So let's start with this because this is your bat
and just just this particular item or piece here. Climate trails,
well that's the name of the show. But you know,
the geo engineering, all all of that. You know, this
sounds at first, you know, people could probably be more

(04:18):
familiar with the kim trails, what is going on, you know,
and sort of the tenfoil hat sort of perception around
it and positioning really to make people who asked any
sort of question about this this type of thing seem
like they were you know, not the sharpest drawer, a

(04:38):
knife in the drawer, et cetera. But we know now
because it's a find out era through efforts like your
own and various others, but even just the fact that
they're starting to admit it, Like Bill Gates wants to
black out the sun. There are stories about this. I
wish I was making this up. You can't make it up.
But we now have them telling us. We've seen recently

(05:00):
there were questions about in Texas whether there was cloud
seating going on. We've seen the videos and the flood there,
but the videos that came out of the floods in
the Middle East, if the tam was Saudi Arabia where
they had some of those cloud seating operations going on.
Of course we just saw yesterday or the day before,
was we're taping this now there's a video of Putin
Energy walking in China together talking about how they like

(05:21):
to live forever, and they like to get organs and
every every so often they get new organs putting their
body in this and how they'll be able to be
just literally just would would be immortal, and you can imagine.
And we got so we's to find out there are
the curtains pulled back if you're seeing these things are
actually happening. By the way, they'rrefutable, and so we could.

(05:43):
Of course, these people with the Huberts like this. Of
course they would think that they could control the weather,
or they would want to at least try to attempt it.
It's obvious to folks who look at this. So I
just want to set the stage with that now and say,
because that when you started talking about this, this couldn't
be further from the top of people's minds. Of fact,

(06:05):
I'm sure you would called every name in a book.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
That's why I have such thick skin, because you know,
my journey started. I was watching a documentary. I was
in the active duty militaries and the Air Force. Just
so everyone knows, I worked in bio environmental engineering, which
is the Air Force equivalent of the of EPA, OSHA,
the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Department of Transportation and
involving hazard's materials, materials and transportation and all those things.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
So I was watching a.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Documentary where somebody talked about this like in a snippet
buried in a different documentary, and I thought that was
so insane, and to be honest with you, it was
offensive because they were accusing the military of it. And
I thought these same issues that you're discussing would cross
into my field. So I thought, there's no way this

(06:50):
is happening. And again, the same toxicants that were claimed
to be used, like aluminum buryan stromium, other metals and nanoparticulates.
I thought, why would we why would we be using this?
And they called it chemtrails, but it's actually called stratospheric
stratospheric aerosol injection. And just so people know there's multiple

(07:12):
types of weather modification programs, the term chemtrail has been
hijacked now to kind of any movement gets kind of
infiltrators to try to discredit people like me. So I
don't like the term camtrails, but that's what people know
it as. But in this process of trying to debunk
it years ago, it was a long journey of eighteen
months of digging and testing and renting my own equipment

(07:34):
and trying to I want it to be the person
that like shut this down. And not only was I
not able to shut it down, but I realized those
request forms, which is called an Air Force Form thirty
nine fifty two the approval and use of hazardous materials
because they had to be tied to a specific process
and task and bradle to grave tracking of these hazards materials. Yeah,

(07:55):
we were doing it within my office as far as
the clearance, and I was one of a handful of
people that it's like an additional duty that you're trained
on to go through the system and approve all these chemicals.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
Can we talk about that why they might want to
do that, Because on one hand, you have like the billionaire,
crazy sort of elite types. You say, yes, we can
control the way, we can control everything. But from a
military perspective, it might be very helpful to be able
to control the or enhance or or somehow sway weather
patterns and weather specifically in battlefield scenarios. You could think

(08:30):
of a number of reasons why that might be helpful.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, I mean think about back in Vietnam. You know
they flooded the hole human trail. If you can destabilize
your enemy, I mean think about it. You can great droughts,
you can flood. Flooding and droughting both can ruin crops.
It can make you not be able to use ground transportation.
You know, we were one of the earlier defense forces
that had air capabilities. And there's so many things, And

(08:57):
there are other documentaries throughout the pawerlast ten years that
kind of covered why are they doing this?

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Who is doing it?

Speaker 2 (09:05):
And I learned that you can actually gamble on the weather,
like there's actually like day trading stocks on the probability
of this happening here or there. But you know, I
try not to question the sociopathic actions of different people
in power, but I do know that if you can
control food above all things and resources and movement, then

(09:28):
you hold the power. So there's also a faction justin
too where we've had people pushing this oh climate hoax
of you know, I always say, the only climate change
we're dealing with is man made client change through climate engineering,
also known as geo engineering.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
So this is what the documentary deals with at the forefront,
and I want to play a little bit of it
for folks who they can see it. I will tell
you where to go watch it and all of that
here in just a moment. But I also want to
dive into if we can, you know, when we come
back to like your background on this and like all
of the things that you just kind of swept over,

(10:06):
Like I've been called every name of the book and
I got to thick scat and all that. But but Kristin,
it really is it's there's a lot more to this
and the things that you went through and behind the scenes,
I want to talk about that coming out after this
quick preview, when.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
The threats started coming, I realized I needed to leave,
and again I had no plan, I had no job.
I was very scared, and I came out in a
time that I knew, regardless of what happened to me,
I was going to be on the right side of history.
You can no longer call something of the conspiracy theory
when Harvard, Bill Gates and the CI director are all
calling for these programs to start.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
We have barium and strownium and illuminum and nanoparticles. I
think some of these technically incompetent politicians don't understand what
a nanoparticle is. Don't you want to breathe clean air?

Speaker 4 (11:03):
What I do see is massive evidence that we are
exposed to an immense chemical soup of man made poisons.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
It's going into our water supply, it's going into our nose,
it's going into our mouth, it's settling on our skins.
If you just take the time to look up, it
becomes undeniable. We the people have not consented to being
test subjects.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Your own government's doing it.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
You're spraying us like buds or cockroaches.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
That doesn't raise any flags that doesn't make you think,
scratch your head on what's going on?

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Poof, there's all the aluminum over this concentrated area. You
have everyone looking up at the sky. I mean it's
literally over our heads. Wow. That's uh, that's pretty powerful,

(11:59):
my phont on. That particularly what that one guy said
is they're spraying us like bugs la concroaches. That is
incredible and who knows the reasons for it, But what
is happening and what what you know? Obviously your your

(12:19):
your your story. The journey to get the truth out,
I think is really what I want to get into.
So first let's start with the movie. Obviously, this is
going to be available. Can people watch it right now?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yes, actually it is going to be on Amazon Prime Video.
I do not have their release date. I was actually
really shocked that Amazon took this. They had to get
it approved and accepted. But it is available right now
on the website of Climatetrails dot com. So at climate
Trails dot com you can go and it's a seventy
two hour rental for a FEA four ninety nine and
it uses the Vimeo platform, so you just create a

(12:54):
log in and just to put it out there, I
didn't profit off this film. I never profited off this
because I am a federally protected whistleblower on this issue
and that's just my personal integrity. In fact, people involved
in this film offer to compensate me, and I said
absolutely not. So you can watch it there again that
rental fee, and that goes to the team that made

(13:14):
this film. They had a lot of travel costs associated
a lot of expects of equipment and editing and legal issues.
So four ninety nine is not a lot for a documentary.
So I actually prefer that people watch it this way,
but it will be available on Amazon Prime.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
But that is available right now justin that's.

Speaker 1 (13:30):
Pretty incredible at the website, so you can watch it
that way. You can go to Amazon later if you prefer,
but obviously they'll probably make a little bit more and
it might be even cheaper as four ninety nine there. Okay,
so you you see your whistleblower, and I know just
a little bit of this because we talked about it

(13:50):
before and maybe some people listening have ford this too,
But what are some of the things that you've gone through,
Kristin as as you started blowing the whistle on this.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Really insane I don't want to get in too much,
but maybe this will make sense.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
So sometimes when I tell you I have thick skin.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
And I've been attacked through the years, I've had people
actually impersonate me online. I think I have like twenty
TikTok accounts accounts that aren't mine. I've been impersonated on
social media forums, and there's a specific forum I can
tell it was a former coworker, because trust me, I
had a lot of things happened to me when I
was doing this.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
But this will all make sense in a moment.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
But I was simultaneously blowing the whistle on two issues
on my way out of the military. But I was
dealing with overexposures to carcinogens in a building that calls
cancer clusters while I was also uncovering this. And what
happened when this is people started conflating the story, saying
that this weather modification was causing cancer clusters. And then

(14:48):
when I told people I did not blow the whistle
on weather modification causing cancer, people took that as she
said she didn't blow.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
The whistle on weather modification.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
And then I saw on a certain forum that I'm
not going to mention and it's like Rumpelstiltskin. People using
that as screenshots that are now recirculating. I don't know
who that is.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
It's not me.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Anyone can take your picture, but just in the demonization,
I want you to know, like right before I exited
the military, and people that are veterans will understand you
have like enlistments. I was on an extension because I
went from an air logistics center to another air logistics
center and extend my list a year, and I was
going to re enlist. This was going to be my
career for twenty years. And it was a god thing

(15:28):
for sure, because when I really started to get ready
to push this, it was in the summer and I
was sitting there like with night sweats and anxiety. And
I got out on October twenty seven, twenty twenty ten,
and immediately went and got an attorney so that I
could share this with my attorney and then go back
channels to get this whistleble or protection.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Before I came forward.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
But it was very scary, I said in this film,
I talk about how I was threatened to be thrown
on a mental hold for one hundred and twenty days
when I started to ask questions about this. And right
before this happened, I had just won an award for
non Commissioned Officer of the Quarter, and I was highly
decorated for my time. I had a lot of above

(16:10):
and beyond awards and medals because of the community service
I was doing, and just had a really great experience
in the military up until so. I wasn't a disgruntled employee.
I wasn't in trouble. But yes, I mean, justin, I
even had people in my career field at our technical
training school take some of my speeches to make fun
of me and spread a rumor that I was caught

(16:32):
engaging in sexual activity in my office, Like that is
so insane not to mention.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Justin, I had a cubicle, so a little interesting, right.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
I can laugh about these things now, but it was
very scary. But I got that whistle ble or of
protection because I did not want to be blackballed for
any future employment, because I was actually getting a government
job at a VA hospital when I left the Air Force.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
So this is just a taste of some of the
things that you've you've gone through to get the truth
out here on this. I'm going to ask some questions
because I know that by the way, I've got some
but I know people in the chat right now Freedom
fam VIPs over our locals have asked some questions and

(17:16):
there are people that want to kind of understand some
of it. How is the spraying had I know that
it gets into it. I'm sure the documentary won't give
everything away, but how is the spraying happening? Is this
only in military airplanes? Is it happening in commercial airplanes?
How is this actually taking place? The application? And then again,

(17:38):
you know we heard in the previous some of the
stuff that's inside of inside of it.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Yeah, well I always make this very clear. I know
what I know when I uncovered it a long time
ago and came out in twenty ten publicly, so I'm
sure a lot of it has changed since then. Back then,
it was retrofitting aircraft to be able to disperse this
and very classified hangers and some stuff I literally can't
talk about. And I know that seems very convenient for

(18:04):
some people that want to debunk me. But it is
classified because when I would go into these buildings and
have a case file, I would have to like a
binder about all the hazards and tasks that they do
and chemicals that the use. I couldn't even take the
binder back to my shop to my reports. I'd have
to write my reports inside of their building and then
have my supervisor come by to approve it. Like it

(18:24):
was very classified these types of parts of the military base.
So yes, it was military aircraft see casey one thirty five's.
I have seen people come forward now and openly admit
you've got the company Rainmaker that's engaging in cloud seating
another form that's using hazards materials toxicant called silver eye dyed.

(18:46):
But yes, it's contracted to different places around the country
and the Nebraska region, Iowa region, places like that, so
I cannot speak to who is actually doing it now.
But that's where I drive people to the website geoengineering
watch dot org because my friend Dane Wiggington, who has
been aware of this longer than I have, as all

(19:07):
of the information there. When people say, what are the sources,
where's the proof, it's all on that website.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Now, you mentioned that things may have changed, so I mean,
when you can imagine that could be, you know, there's
a number of reasons for that. I've heard. I've heard
comments about this before initially thinking that they rolled it
out in a certain way, but now it's like in
all these aircraft and maybe it's put in the jet

(19:37):
fuel or whatever whatever it is, additives that that may
help once they tested and figure out what they could do.
There were there were things. One thing's for sure. When
you see this, and obviously there's going to be lots
of questions, lots of theories that will pop up around it.
And I know and I like to entertain it all.

(19:57):
But how do we make sure that we stay credible?
Not this and this is this is a question that
we could we could run through any story question. Yeah,
how do we make sure there were staying credible? You know?
And you know, because people ask me, well what about this?
What about that stuff? I can only tell you what
I know. You know, that's that's kind of the case.
But I want to make sure we're also not closing

(20:18):
the door on conversation.

Speaker 5 (20:20):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Well, I have a couple points to answer on this.
So the credibility issue is a huge one. But when
you talk about there's people that I think are literal
plants in this movement, and I say that because some
of these people are tied to international government agencies that
try to debunk me, and they're saying it's in the
jet fuel. Well, I used to have to inspect jet

(20:41):
fuel labs those where those were shops underneath me as
an industrial hygienist and knowing the testing methods that they
would have to follow. I cannot see how you add
these toxicans into fuel and it doesn't ruin the fuel system.
Not to mention, you can people who've actually time labs
film this. You can actually see that it can be

(21:01):
turned on and off, and you can't really turn off
you utilizing fuel. I think I do not think it's
in the fuel, and I know that RFK said that,
and I know who told him.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
It's a gentleman named Jim Lee.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Who I've disassociated with because I think his intentions are
ill willed and has disrespected people like me and Dang
Waggington who've put our lives on the line literally and
a reputations. Now, as far as the credibility aspect, there
was a period for several years where I moved away
from this movement and exposing it. Not because I was
recanting or I was scared, It's because too many people

(21:35):
gave it legs that were not attached to me. That
was they were doing force medicating us through the air.
That every line in the sky is a chemtrail. No,
there are condensation trails, absolutely, and many people don't know this.
But years ago I was on Joe Rogan's show when
he had a TV show, and I told this story,
and there was this guy who's no science background. He's

(21:58):
a gaming of computer gaming program. My name is Mick West.
He runs a website where he was talking about what
contrails are.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
But he's you can't tell.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Me what I didn't see, and you can't negate my
whistleblow or protection. So the biggest way to discredit it
is when people post purposeful disinformation to ruin this movement,
which is pictures of people with patches that say comtrails,
those are not real. The tanks that are actually balanced
for aircraft safety, people think those are tanks inside.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
That's not real.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
And again pointing out every line in the sky and
thinking there are clouds that are shaped vertically vertically, yes,
but when you have proll long trails that start to
fan out horizontally. And the worst place I've ever seen
it happen was in Arizona. But I don't know who remembers,
because I did. During the first shutdowns, during the scamdemic,

(22:48):
is what I'm gonna call it.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Our skies were.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
So blue, they were so blue, And I think it's
because we didn't have this activity occurring, and I know
a lot of other people recognize that. But to stay
credible in this movement, you can't just share a picture.
You can't just share information you haven't vetted, because it
is it is to discredit you. And I know some

(23:11):
of your viewers know what I'm talking about. They've seen
those pictures of the ballasts that are actually balancing ballasts
in tanks, and again the patches and the keemchrell on
and off switch.

Speaker 3 (23:22):
None of that is real.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
But the program is very real and it actually is
openly admitted and the military has involved in weaponizing weather
since before I was born.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
So lots of questions in the chat right now. But
how do you think they are if they continue to
do this, how do I how are they doing it?
How does it work? Do you have any thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, I still think it's an apparatus that is embedded
in the aircraft that is just has its own nozzles.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So that they can decide.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
You know, if it was in the fuel, remember, it'd
be happening from the moment of takeoff, when they get
to where they go, where they're given their plan. In
this film, you will see one individual, she's so brave.
She actually tracked these flights and then went into you know,
have you ever meant to travel to a small private airport?
She went in there and actually in front of this gentleman.
He didn't deny it. So I think it's contracted out too.

(24:21):
I think it can be small. I think it can
be big. Like I said, I don't know how this
has grown. I just know what it was back in
twenty ten and a few years prior. But this film
is so important because I always tell people I am
not the main person who has exposed this. There is

(24:41):
people before me. I am just someone who VALI validated
an accusation that brought this to the forefront. And there
are people who you know. I have a friend Justin
and social media. His name is Justin Robert. His real
name is Justin Harvey. He's the one who actually got
this help get this bill passed to bandit in Florida.
He's also one that ended floride in Florida. I have

(25:02):
friends in the health freedom movement that have done a
lot on this, and I say, it's one big puzzle
and I am just a piece, but I'm an important
piece because there's multi agencies that are involved, and like
you said, you just have to a lot of people
are using AI.

Speaker 5 (25:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
You can literally just go ask chat GBT who has
been involved in these programs. And there was four countries
that wrote articles about that they were doing stratosphere aerosol
injection using the same toxicants that I've mentioned and testified to.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
So there's a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
And one of the discrediting factors is that people say, oh,
it's cloud seating. I don't know what she's talking about. No,
cloud seating is different. And ginger Z, you know, a
native of West Michigan, did a special maybe two years
ago because I remember I got tagged like crazy where
she was covering cloud seating and how great it was,
and actually went and did like a tour around a

(25:55):
plane of where they have these like little they light
them on fire, these little my brain's not working have
biden brain today, but they're like little tubes where they're
using silver iodide well, silver iodide yes is bad for
human environmental health. It's the same argument about you know
the folks that people get, oh, these things in the

(26:16):
pokes are so minute, Well, you can't control dose when
you're dealing with weather. And there's so many factors that
determine dissipation rates of these toxicants in these metals, in nanoparticulates,
which means it's so small it can be inhaled, it
can be permeated into the ground, and they have soil
vapor erosion, it's on the crops. Everyone's worried about glyphissate,
but you have to again think about all these things

(26:38):
those of us in the health freedom movement have been exposing.
It's that synergistic toxicity, which is when you have different
contaminants that are attacking the same target organs. Well, it
just happens to be that glyphosate and what's used in
stratosphere asol injection, weather modification injected in us and beauty
products and all these things it's attacking us. Call it minute,

(26:59):
but it's again and systemic effects. So that's why this
gets so intertwined in my profession. And that's another argument
people say, oh, my gosh, she's an expert on everything. No,
but if you look at my profession, there's about seventeen
disciplines that are involved.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
So I've talked.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
About this radiation, masks, you name it, clean drinking water, fluoride.
I just try to use the credentials that I've had
and gained over the past twenty three years to educate
the public against benefactors and lobbyists that are trying to
tell you otherwise.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
What do you think the goal is here? I mean,
is it just to modify the weather for economic or
defense purposes? Or is there something more nefarious at play?
I mean, I don't even know how it's possible to
know exactly what that is. But what's your gut tell
you on this?

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I think what it has morphed into is people are
capitalizing off the field fear of climate change, and if
we want to stop climate change, we've got to dim
the sun, which is ironic because people are pushing solar
for so long.

Speaker 3 (28:05):
Yeah, how good is that going to work?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
If you're dimming the sun, you're just messing with Mother
Nature in the ecosystem. So again, I think that's what
it's morphed into now. It's a money making opportunity. I
even I'm not going to use names, but I ran
across somebody who's a friend of a friend and they
were pushing climate change control stuff. And I know that
person does not believe in climate change, but it was

(28:27):
a money making opportunity for them to push out information
or sell things. And that's very worrisome. But you know,
people are sometimes driven by profit.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
So this, this whole thing just possibly. I mean, there's
so many that are different directions that can go. How
do we stop it? I mean, what what is the
what's the answer? Is it a obviously bringing this to
light so people know that it's a problem is one thing,
one piece of it. Is it a situation where we

(29:01):
need to make sure that we have laws that are
in place that protect this type of thing? Is what
is the ultimate solution? Where's this headed?

Speaker 2 (29:13):
I think it has to be banned at the federal level.
And there's going to be people that still don't believe this,
And I guess I can understand that because you always
ask yourself the people that are doing it, aren't they
also breathing this in? Aren't they also eating the same food?
I always tell you justin I don't question social paths,
but I think we have to ban it at the

(29:33):
federal level. And even if you don't think it's happening,
wouldn't you be for making sure it doesn't happen. You
do not want carcinogens and neurotoxins.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Sprayed on you.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
We've had such an increase in neurodegenerate diseases like Alzheimer's,
and you know, people are suffering. There's neuroscientists and neural
surgeons that have come forward asking why we have such
an uptake in this over the past fifteen twenty years. Yeah,
I know that Marjorie Taylor Green has a bill going
through called I believe it's called the Safe Skies Act,

(30:06):
and I've been reaching out to individual people in Congress
that I know or have connections with, asking them to
join on. When I was at Rom Paul's ninetieth birthday barbecue,
actually that's what this is.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
It's in the fed Ron.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Paul birthday ninetieth birthday Kouzi for my water here. I
asked Chip Roy if he would sign on to it,
and I think he was a little taken aback at
my boldness, but he was very respectful and said he
wants to look into it further. It was very interesting
to him. But I want to give a shot out
to Senator Doug Mastriano. He is in Pennsylvania. Senator Yeah,

(30:42):
I know, he's ran for governor.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
He's very much about this and has his own legislation also.
So several states have reached out to me to give
them information. I can't even tell you how many people
ask me to fly in and testify. But justin, you
know this as a parent, especially after what I've been
doing for the past five years, I have to find
a healthy work life balance. I work from home. Plus

(31:06):
I'm an activist. I do a lot of things in politics.
I can't do that. So I try to give them
the resources so that they can include it in their
legislation or know the words the wording to you so
that there's no loopholes.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
But it just gives me hope.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Like I feel like one thing I was demonized for
now it's like everyone and their mother wants to do
an interview with me. And I'm very selective of who
I will talk to you with this about this because
I'm you know, have all smiles now. But justin I've
done interviews on this and cried, I try to control
my motions. It was scary the threats that were levied
against me why I was still an active duty, threatn

(31:46):
to have my daughter taken away from me. These are
very real things that still like even tell I'm trying
to hold it back now.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
It's scary.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
I got a little emotional in an interview with Dell
big Tree that I did. And there are other people
who are coming forward who are doing documentaries. I know
that there's two others that are being made. I have
been asked to be a part of them. I'm very
selective and one thing I just want to say, sorry,
I'm being long winded here, justin One thing about this
film is that I do know the filmmaker.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Sean Hibbler.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I had a lot of behind the scenes conversations with him.
I'm not going to get in too much detail, but
we got to a point where I told him no
in the beginning, but then when he decided, he told
me I'd be the one to re screen this. Have
a lot of control over who was allowed in it,
not to micromanage people, but I had to vet the
people that they were interviewing. I didn't want myself in

(32:36):
a film with other people who didn't have credibility, and
a doctor Andrew Kaufman isn't in this Monty Fitz. There's
so many amazing people in this film that you may
not have heard of. But I'll bring a different expertise
or experience in which they uncovered this and studied the
health effects and have fought me, you know, to ban it.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
It is a story that continues to really have I
think especially there's been an awakening. Maybe you can talk
to that here in just a second, but there's been
an awakening over the last five years. Is certainly you've
been a part of that where people have decided that
they they're learning more about these things and they are
putting their foot down. One of those things that we've
seen to find out eras I like to call it,

(33:19):
happening right now as we speak today in a Senate hearing.
RFK Junior just talking about how the country's health has
become such an issue, Why it's so passionate.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
You are the sickest country in the world. That's why
we have to fire people at CDC. They did not
do their job.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
He certainly makes a great point.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
This was their job to keep us healthy.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
I need to fire some of those people to make
sure this doesn't happen again.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know, it is fascinating. We're the sickest, great point,
We're the sickest country in the world, it says. And
all these people who have been charged tasked with doing
these great jobs and what they have not none of
our good job at it? How have we gotten and
gotten so sick? And it's not just what's in the food.
Of course, it's what's in the food, but it's what's

(34:08):
in the water, and what's in the air too. It
all kind of goes together.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
And there have been so many people who just really
over the last several years. And I think that's one
of the things that got President Trump elected is that
people are waking up to this and they said enough
is enough.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
That's the one thing that you know, we had the
flames burn our freedom down to the ground, but was rebirth,
the Lotus flower was people waking up to not only
these things, but people waking up to Wow, our government
lies to us. They put profit over freedom, individual liberty
and health, and a lot of things desired as public

(34:47):
health and preventive health are harmful to human health. Plus
you have to consider human in genetic factors and nothing
is one size fits all. But I love what OURFK
Junior is doing in DC. It was a slow motion,
but we are now seeing, you know, the left is
losing their mind. You know, so many people are calling
for his resignation. And that's how you know he's winning
because RFK has been a champion or human and environmental

(35:11):
health for decades, so he understands the synergistic toxicity. He
understands that. You know, I had lived in other countries
when I was in the military. I've traveled around the world.
I know that when I travel, like when I just
went to Geneva, like last year, I think, you know,
I lost five pounds on my trip and I was
eating gelato and pasta and pizza. It's because their food

(35:33):
has two ingredients. You know, their pasta has two ingredients.
Yet you go to our store and it's like this long,
and you can eat things in other countries and not
be overweight like here in this country. Also, we have
one thing that's always blown my mind about the United States,
and when I am doing air sampling in my profession
or looking at what's in our drinking water, is that

(35:55):
our acceptable levels of exposure. People in Europe they are
way ahead of it. So, just to give you an example,
OSHA has like these exposure limits or permissible exposure limits,
what we allow people in this country to be exposed
to in the workplace compared to just the UK, in
other countries across the pond, they're way ahead of us.

(36:19):
So when you see limits of detection lowered, which has
happened in our profession, like with cadmium and chrome six,
they had to lower the limits in which people get
harmed because cancer clusters in different professions. So my point
is America is so behind, but it's not because we
don't know. It's because there are so many lobbyists that
control politicians and the FDA is not protecting us. They

(36:45):
absolutely are not. And I'm so serious when I tell you, justin,
when I go to Harvest Health or other stores, if
it says this is not FDA approved, I actually have
more confidence in it because I know how hard it is,
you know, to get something approved.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
But this has been an awakening. This is the one
positive thing justin. I it's not even just health. I
see how many kids have you seen?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
And social media the amount of kids who you know
are not up to date on their vaccinations, or how
many kids are homeschooling. And that used to be like, oh,
you're a homeschooler, your kid has no social life. Now
I know more people like just at the private school.
I go to nothing against the private school, but they
found that, you know, traveling more and getting kids involved

(37:27):
in the everyday life, that these things are providing better
growth and a better work life balance for their family.
We are just seeing an awakening and I am here
for it. I am so here for it. So cheers
with my water.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
I love it. Lots of folks I think joining that
call in that conversation throughout the country and maybe even
throughout the world. In the last several years, as we're
starting the kid an eye open experience, experience for it all.
And as the ad said on a chat, the country
has become a big science experiment. And look, there are
stories after story. We don't need to talk about kimtrails,

(38:01):
but where the government has experimented on its citizens and
just some really horrific things in the.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Past, absolutely in my lifetime. The most recent one was
when they were spraying bioagents from rooftops in the inner
city of Saint Louis too.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
That wasn't long ago, was it.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
No, it wasn't that long ago. All the time, you
have the government experimenting on us, and it's without our consent.
And this is you know, we're medicated without our consent.
You know, they were putting lithium and water at one point.
Our wastewater treatment plants can't keep up with people that
flush their meds. You know, fluoride is a toxic that
is put in the water. There's all these different things

(38:46):
and people are waking up to it.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
It always drives me nuts though that Grander up As
was the first city to flooridate the water. But you know,
I want to say something real quick too. When we're
talking about more people having informed consent, individual liberty and
prontal choice for their health, is that actually justin On
September thirteenth through September fourteenth is our third annual I believe,
third or fourth annual Vaccine Safety Awareness Marathon with We

(39:13):
the Patriots USA. I am covering the eleven pm to
two am shift, but it is a twenty four hour marathon.
You can look for the rumble channel of we the
Patriots USA or what are we the Patriots USA dot org.
It starts on September thirteenth at nine am. A lot
of the doctors, activists, some key figures. Actually, one person

(39:34):
that's on there is actually from West Michigan is Rachel Atwood.
She's a health freedom activist. She's going to come on
and tell her story about her own son's injury. And
I just want to implore people to pay attention to
that and if you want to educate people around you
after that marathon concludes, each interview will be shareable so
you don't have to try to drown to twenty four marathon,
you know, by sharing a link.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
We've the Patriots USA and we've had those great folks
on before as well. We the Patriots USA dot org.
Very cool, all right, Kristin anything else? I guess you know,
I'm going to give folks in the chat another chance
to drop in if they have any other questions that
they want to get just one last shot here. But

(40:18):
is there anything else that you can think of that
you know, you want to make sure like you have
the opportunity, you have the microphone, chance to megaphone, billboard,
you could say anything you want what would you.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Say, Okay, Justin's this thing on no.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
Like I mentioned earlier in this interview, I am not
a one trick pony, as they say. I have my
hands in many things, and one thing is making sure
that we're following the constitution. Elected politicians are doing so.
And I just want to remind people there's a lot
of infighting right now in the liberty movement on the right,
and if I can bring credibility to anyone person, please

(40:54):
understand that Congressman Thomas Massey is Ron Paul two point zero.
He's not anti Trump. Doing with the Epstein files is
not to attack Trump. Maybe that's what the left is doing.
But please understand that people like Marjorie Taylor Green what
is supporting Thomas Massey. What I want everyone here to do,
my representative is Bill Heisinga.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Are you listening, Bill?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I need people that are listening to this, whether it's
in Michigan or around the country, countacked your representative and
please ask them to support Representative Thomas Massey's discharge petition.
What that discharge petition does if they get enough votes.
By the way, there's only five Republicans signed on. The
rest are Democrats. This should not be partisans who expose

(41:37):
pedos and essayers and traffickers. This forces a vote of
the Transparency Act involving these files on the floor, and
the Trump administration is upset because they say circumventced Speaker
Johnson's power. Well, that's like saying our citizen led petitions
here in the in Michigan, like acts my tax takes
power away from the legislator.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
No, it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
So nobody should be politicizing exposing evil people like this.
Thomas Massey is doing this because he is a very
ethical and honest constitutional He's the most constitutional conservative we
have in DC, and he's not anti Trump. So please
understand that if you criticize things that Donald Trump is doing,
it doesn't mean like people like me, I've called out

(42:21):
some things, I'm not anti Trump. Please understand on our side,
we should be able to call out things we disagree with,
just like in our marriages over with family members. And
we better unite because those midterms are going to be
very important and there's a lot of changes with election integrity,
and we've got to continue this momentum. So please don't
just be a blind follower. Do your own research. Invooke
that autonomous thought and remember we all share the same goal.

(42:44):
Don't just read the headlines, open the book.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, I agree. I think mass he's a good guy.
I like him a lot.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I have.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
I've followed him for a long time and found out
when I met him that he followed look me on
on Twitter x back in the day. He's like, hey,
do not follow you on? And I was like, wow,
that that was cool. But he is a good guy.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Actually, just got his debt badge and have you seen
the debt badge that he wears.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yes, in person. I might have to make it longer
at some point, unfortunately. But to think about, uh, the
thing about him in this situation, and I'm walking through
this in a very I think sensitive way is I

(43:33):
think Trump is right, although I think he's being misunderstood
in some ways that this is turning into a Democrat hoax.
And what he means by that is they didn't care
about any of this for decades. Now all of a sudden,
they care now because what they're trying to do is
use it against him. And I think the problem that
this is a problem that we're going to be in.

(43:54):
I don't think any of us a lot of it's
the folks like you know, you or me, we want
to transfer parentcy, we want all of this stuff put
out there, or even the people on the left who
just just want to use it politically to kind of
as a wedge for the right. But also I think
trying to damage Trump in some ways because they're trying

(44:15):
to kind of rope him into this. But you know,
even if he is involved, and it was one of
the worst of the worst, hey, i'd say have at it.
I don't. I don't want to protect any of these.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
People, but I don't think Trump is involved.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
And one thing I want to point out too is
I watched the press conference that Representative Massi and Rokana
did that there was people holding signs in the back
that were definitely ango Trump. Sure, let me tell you
something about Thomas Massey. He's not going to speak at
a press conference because someone's holding a sign behind him
that he doesn't sanction or agree with, and people are using.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
That to attack him.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Nobody supports your First Amendment more than Thomas Massey, So
please don't consider that as an endorsement.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
He knows the left. You probably saw it.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
I think you covered it on the show today, they
brought up Clinton in a trip to Africa, and not
one person asked about it in any post interview or
during the conference, but they kept asking about Trump and
everyone has said, we haven't seen anything. So yeah, people
on our side, though, are kind of acting as guilty
as the less.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
So I can ask you this because this is my cause.
I'm really what what is it going to take for
us to be happy? And in your situation, what do
we want? Because we said let's see the files, Well
we're seeing the files. We've seen a lot of files,
but you know, I mean like there's thousands of pages
of who knows what? And my question is, particularly in

(45:37):
the Biden years, the Obama years, the FBI even in
Trump's term, was was being run by people who you know,
they do these reports, they maybe not putting everything in
the reports, and there's only certain things in there, and
so what are we really going to get? Are we
really going to get a smoking gun? That's a problem.
I don't really know if there is a smoking gun

(45:59):
in any these reports. And then we heard about burn
bags recently and all this stuff that they're trying to
hide other evidence. So I don't know if it's out there,
and I would like to see it all. I think
we should. I just don't know. I think it's a lose.
It seems like it might be a lose lose. So
then the question is, and I think that may be
Trump's point, but my question for you is what is

(46:20):
it going to take to make folks happy?

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Like?

Speaker 1 (46:23):
What would you like to see?

Speaker 2 (46:25):
Well, there are absolutely people who are just negative and
they're absolutist and nothing is ever good enough for them.
I'm not one of them, and I know that absolutely.
I don't even know if a thorough investigation was done
under this previous administration because it might have implicated some
of them. What I want to see and what a
lot of people want to see. Can we get one

(46:47):
arrest and provide that person due process? Can we get
one arrest, whether it's for this or with what happened
with Fauci. Can we just get one arrest? Because that's
the problem is that we I realize that we're not
even a year in, but people want to see accountability.
There's just not been any yet. There's only been hearings.

(47:09):
But we've got to see some form of accountability. And
I don't even think it needs to be on the
file situation that we're talking about, just something, justin something, okay,
And I'm with those people.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Just one arrest one.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
So I brought this up yesterday, and I'm with you too.
I think that we're so frustrated. We just want to
see that. I think our arrests may come in different ways.
So well, let me give you an example. I don't
know if we're gonna see because I'd like to see
that too. But before you have an arrest, you have
to have an indictment, right, and so the grand jury
has todn't. Did you see what happened? And Janine Piro

(47:41):
brought this up the other day. She had this woman
who traveled from New York to DC, went through like
five different states to get there, and was plotting on
killing President Trump. Now, yes, I saw that they brought
her in front of a DC grand jury and they
refuse to indict the woman. So this is my I
just have to I have to caution this for folks
because I want to see it too. But you think

(48:03):
Fauci gu in front of a grand jury in DC
for any of these people at some point, and the
DC wouldn't, the grand jury would have died. I don't
know that we're ever going to see your rests. I
don't know they're ever going to see indictments are charges.
I'm I'm concerned about that because I'm frustrated just as
as much as you and I hate to think that people, Well,

(48:23):
we're going to get so frustrated that eventually we just
throw in the towel. Now here's the thing that I
do think we may eventually see arrest in, and it's
starting to happen already. But there's that FED commissioner. She's
on the board, and he's got all these fake houses
in the mortgage fraud that she's and there's one of
those houses that's here in Michigan we talked about yesterday.

(48:44):
I think people like that Adam Schiff, Letitia James, these people,
they do all these things for years, and I think
they all did it, by the way, because I think
definitely there's no way we're ever going to get caught
doing this. But they broke laws that you and I
would have been locked up for years, where they would
have thrown the book at us for any of this stuff.
I think they eventually start getting people like that on
those on those type of schemes, and it's kind of

(49:08):
a way that they got alcalone if you think about it.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah, and I'm totally aware that we have activist judges
that are not utilizing law and discretion. They're using their
personal beliefs and with their side. But as someone I've
been in so many court cases as an expert witness,
I've had court cases move in the middle of my testimony.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
You can move.

Speaker 2 (49:29):
Cases out of areas that you know you will have
a bias jury. You absolutely can do that. So you know,
I'm not trying to Monday morning quarterback or you know,
speak in an area. I don't like when people complain
without a solution. But what I'm saying is I know
they can move cases, and I know that there's also
a lot going on. I know Trump has been talking
about right now it's the economy, and I get it.
Maybe we've got to have a strong foundation because exposing

(49:52):
some of these people could actually like destabilize other financial facets.
But what I don't want it to be is we're
not doing things because oh, you know, the midterms, this
could implicate donors or people for the midterms.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Let's not do that. I think that.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
When we see incremental wins if we can focus on
those but have healthy discussions on things that we're not
happy about, and that's okay. We can find a balance
to say, hey, you're not going to get everything all
at once, but look at this, we're climbing the ladder.
I mean, look at DC and people are mad about
him potentially putting the National Guard in Chicago. The point
is is that whether or not people despise Trump, people

(50:32):
in DC are like, oh my gosh, Like I can
walk to work now and not have to worry about
being assaulted, like even I've seen it in Chicago. People
who are not a fan of Trump are like, please
come here. So we got to celebrate the incremental wins.
But I do think that there's people in this administration
that are pretty risk averse. I think Pambody's one of them,
and I just want I'd rather see Dan Bongino in

(50:54):
the lead.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
But you know, again, I am not there. I just
have opinions.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
But like I said, I tend to bring solutions with
problems that I complain about. But I just want more
unity within this freedom movement and for people to stop
demonizing those that just have a complaint like.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
You can complain. It doesn't mean that you're now a Democrat.
And that's not just on me. I see it on X.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
I'm sure you do too, right well, I think part
I think that's part of that's bodysne is that they
saw how powerful the movement was and what we got
done in twenty four and I just they don't want
to let that stand it. I think that's happening. We're
being split in a lot of different places, so I
think it's a fair warning. I think it's wise that
folks need to need to be aware of it. I

(51:37):
appreciate you taking the time to be here with us again.
That the film is called Climate Trails. You can see
it at climatetrails dot com and make sure we put
that in the link for folks to get that as well.
But where can people keep up with you as well?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I am most active on my TikTok account and X
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on X is just at Kristin Meghan. Yeah, and if
you stay up late, that's where I'm usually really spicy online.

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Look out no, but I just I'm trying to I
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But at the end of the day, I just want
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Kristin, I appreciate you taking the time. Thank you for
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So thank you so much for taking the time to
be here with us today. You got it. Thank you
God bless.

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