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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Speaker Matt Hall joins us. Right now, mister speakers, thank
you so much for taking the time.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, good morning, thanks for having me big celebration.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
You guys have got another big win here.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, you're right. You know, when we have a principal
conservative Republican House, we can force Governor Whitmer to do
things that align with our platform and agenda. That's still
tough because they control two branches of government, the governor
and the Senate. But the Republicans, you know, we flipped
(00:34):
the House this year, and so we can still accomplish
some things. And what we did was we implemented HEAT
the Hall Ethics, Accountability and Transparency Plan. And this was
a real tough one. So, you know, during the COVID
nineteen pandemic, there was so much money flowing into government.
The politicians they would just spend it, I mean without
(00:58):
anyone knowing what they were doing with it. So we'd get,
you know, a budget bill and they'd tack on the
one or two billion dollars of pork spending. At the
last minute. You'd say, what are these things? And you'd get,
you know, four or five word descriptions, and then you know,
a year after the vote, we'd start to find out
what these things were, and you know, we'd see hip
(01:19):
hop academies, splash pads, big big new buildings and lancing.
I mean the DNR for some reason built a five
million dollar pool and lancing all kinds of things, and
big Democrat developers would get huge windfalls. So what I
said when I became speaker is, you know, we need
(01:40):
to start raining in this pork spending and we need
to come up with HEAT, the Hall Ethics, Accountability and
Transparency Plan, which forces them to disclose this forty five
days in advance. If you want a pork spending project
in the budget, tell us what it is, put your
name on it, be proud of it. Tell us the
public purpose. Uh, and when is it going to be complete?
(02:03):
And we have to certify the organization exists because they
would even give money to millions to organizations that did
not exist, and then they create the organizations after they
got the money. It was a real real uh you know,
anything goes system. And now we've cleaned that up with
the governor signing HEAT today.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, it really is interesting. It makes you wonder how
we blew through all that money we had in the
COVID days. You know, billions upon billions of done. I
guess it's not hard when you're handing out all those
you know, behind the scenes backroom deal you know, checks
for your all your Democrat donor friends. Is it no?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But you know they're so addicted to this pork, especially
the Democrats. We forced them in this budget we just
got done to cut the pork by eighty seven percent.
We cut eight hundred million dollars of waste, fraud and
abuse from the budget, including two thousand ghost employees. And
these were fake employees that the Whitmer administration would use
(03:04):
to pad their budgets so they could spend more. We
cut the budget. It's smaller than it was last year
as a major accomplishment under Whitmer. And then we said, look,
we're not We're not going to let you go out
once you get these pork projects awarded and just spend
all the money. Because what they were doing is you
(03:25):
get the pork project and then the Whitmer administration would say, okay,
here's your twenty five million dollars. That's how you got
this one where the woman went out paid herself like
a you know, eight hundred thousand dollars salary, bought first
class tickets, and the big you know, the big what
is it, eight thousand dollars coffee maker. Well, we changed
(03:45):
it and said, from now on in these projects, if
we give it to you, you have to send us
your expenses first and then we'll reimburse you for the
ones that are appropriate. So we had to get that
under control. I mean, this was a free for all
for many years under Whitmer, and we've reined it in
(04:05):
and we've put the guardrails on it, and we're going
to be watching very close. But I think we've we
finally fixed a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Another big win, Speaker, Matt Hall there in the house
here in Michigan, and of course yet more to come.
This is it's just the beginning, and I think not
just for Republicans there in the house, but this is
a win for Michigan for all the folks who you know,
if you're paying taxes, you swere your money's going speak,
miss speaker, Thank you so. About anything else we should
be looking for in the days ahead, Things you guys
(04:35):
are working on before we let you go.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, you know, I just point out that you know,
there are some good project like with Whitmer, I could
see her punishing a Republican in their district. So you know,
we want roads, we want bridges, you know, we want
these things, but not all this you know, hip hop
academies and splash bats and all this other craft they
(04:59):
were doing. So we're gonna keep holding the line on this.
And you know the Democrats, once the budget's done, they
want to do another budget bill. We're going to block
all that. We're really focused on getting better value for
your tax dollars and you're going to see that for
the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I love it. Uh, mister Speaker, thank you so much
for the latest and the heads up on this, folks,
another big one. We'll continue to keep you up there.
Please come back and let us know when you have more.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I will thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You got it, my pleasure. That's a Speaker of the House,
Republican Speaker of the Republican controlled House, Matt Holly
Speaker Matt Hall joins us. Right now, mister speakers, thank
you so much for taking the time.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, good morning, thanks for having me big celebration.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
You guys have got another big win here.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, you're right. You know, when we have a principal
conservative Republican House, we can force Governor Whitmer to do
things that align with our platform and agenda. That's still
tough because they control two branches of government, the governor
and the Senate. But the Republicans, you know, we flipped
(00:34):
the House this year, and so we can still accomplish
some things. And what we did was we implemented HEAT
the Hall Ethics, Accountability and Transparency Plan. And this was
a real tough one. So, you know, during the COVID
nineteen pandemic, there was so much money flowing into government.
The politicians they would just spend it, I mean without
(00:58):
anyone knowing what they were doing with it. So we'd get,
you know, a budget bill and they'd tack on the
one or two billion dollars of pork spending. At the
last minute. You'd say, what are these things? And you'd get,
you know, four or five word descriptions, and then you know,
a year after the vote, we'd start to find out
what these things were, and you know, we'd see hip
(01:19):
hop academies, splash pads, big big new buildings and lancing.
I mean the DNR for some reason built a five
million dollar pool and lancing all kinds of things, and
big Democrat developers would get huge windfalls. So what I
said when I became speaker is, you know, we need
(01:40):
to start raining in this pork spending and we need
to come up with HEAT, the Hall Ethics, Accountability and
Transparency Plan, which forces them to disclose this forty five
days in advance. If you want a pork spending project
in the budget, tell us what it is, put your
name on it, be proud of it. Tell us the
public purpose. Uh, and when is it going to be complete?
(02:03):
And we have to certify the organization exists because they
would even give money to millions to organizations that did
not exist, and then they create the organizations after they
got the money. It was a real real uh you know,
anything goes system. And now we've cleaned that up with
the governor signing HEAT today.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, it really is interesting. It makes you wonder how
we blew through all that money we had in the
COVID days. You know, billions upon billions of done. I
guess it's not hard when you're handing out all those
you know, behind the scenes backroom deal you know, checks
for your all your Democrat donor friends. Is it no?
Speaker 2 (02:42):
But you know they're so addicted to this pork, especially
the Democrats. We forced them in this budget we just
got done to cut the pork by eighty seven percent.
We cut eight hundred million dollars of waste, fraud and
abuse from the budget, including two thousand ghost employees. And
these were fake employees that the Whitmer administration would use
(03:04):
to pad their budgets so they could spend more. We
cut the budget. It's smaller than it was last year
as a major accomplishment under Whitmer. And then we said, look,
we're not We're not going to let you go out
once you get these pork projects awarded and just spend
all the money. Because what they were doing is you
(03:25):
get the pork project and then the Whitmer administration would say, okay,
here's your twenty five million dollars. That's how you got
this one where the woman went out paid herself like
a you know, eight hundred thousand dollars salary, bought first
class tickets, and the big you know, the big what
is it, eight thousand dollars coffee maker. Well, we changed
(03:45):
it and said, from now on in these projects, if
we give it to you, you have to send us
your expenses first and then we'll reimburse you for the
ones that are appropriate. So we had to get that
under control. I mean, this was a free for all
for many years under Whitmer, and we've reined it in
(04:05):
and we've put the guardrails on it, and we're going
to be watching very close. But I think we've we
finally fixed a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Another big win, Speaker, Matt Hall there in the house
here in Michigan, and of course yet more to come.
This is it's just the beginning, and I think not
just for Republicans there in the house, but this is
a win for Michigan for all the folks who you know,
if you're paying taxes, you swere your money's going speak,
miss speaker, Thank you so. About anything else we should
be looking for in the days ahead, Things you guys
(04:35):
are working on before we let you go.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, you know, I just point out that you know,
there are some good project like with Whitmer, I could
see her punishing a Republican in their district. So you know,
we want roads, we want bridges, you know, we want
these things, but not all this you know, hip hop
academies and splash bats and all this other craft they
(04:59):
were doing. So we're gonna keep holding the line on this.
And you know the Democrats, once the budget's done, they
want to do another budget bill. We're going to block
all that. We're really focused on getting better value for
your tax dollars and you're going to see that for
the rest of the year.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I love it. Uh, mister Speaker, thank you so much
for the latest and the heads up on this, folks,
another big one. We'll continue to keep you up there.
Please come back and let us know when you have more.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I will thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
You got it, my pleasure. That's a Speaker of the House,
Republican Speaker of the Republican controlled House, Matt Holly
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