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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tack into the latest in tech and how it affects
you and your world. This is tech Talk Tuesday on
Wood Radios West Michigan Live. Welcome in Trent. Can it
be affordable eye store? Like Michigan? Drive it stand down
and the folks at Grant River Tech can help you.
Whether it's a personal device that'd be the affordable eye store.
Maybe it's your business, your organization help getting a set
(00:22):
up secure and making sure everything works properly. Our good
friend Trent will walk you through those things. Hey, good morning,
Welcome in Trent.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Come on justin.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You know, I'm just looking at some of these stores
and I look at you know, all of this. It's
hard to understand when it comes to tech. Maybe what
the biggest piece is of the day, because it all
feels like we're moving so fast or drinking from a
fire hose. It's like every day there's something new and
big announced. What I think even above AI because this
will use AI and it'll be wrapped up some of
(00:51):
that will be wrapped up in here. But how about
this We get a story and it looks like it's
it looks like it's credible. From what I can tell
that the Secretary of Transportation Trump administration is planning to
announce that they are going to put a nuclear reactor
(01:12):
on the Moon. This is incredible if it's a real story,
and if it really happens, Trent, this is stuff out
out of sci fi movies.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, justin it is. It's definitely Duffy has an interest
in this. He's the head of NASA, and NASA obviously
has a lot of interest in this because a nuclear
reactor on the Moon would provide them with the power
needed for a moon base.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It would provide them with a power needed for.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Surveillance, supervision of the Moon, of who's sending stuff there,
who's doing things there. We got so many people trying
to put probes on the Moon and do different things
with it, and as well as a national security thing,
justin if we don't have any permanent infrastructure with a
power supply there, there's no way to defend turf on
(02:00):
the moon claim space on the Moon. So that's really
the story about this is not some creepy technology or
what they're doing on the Moon. It's more of a
national security thing of who owns the Moon, who owns
space on the Moon, And this isn't a first official
tempt to plant something there that's that's permanent, that can
be monitored and not necessarily defended yet with boots on
(02:21):
the ground. But to start that process of who owns
space on the.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Moon, it'll be robot boots on the the surface of
the moon. Tramp. Let me ask you though, because you
know and you said NASA, I forgot. They did make
him the head and it's also the Secretary of Transportation,
but he's the head of NASA now too. But the
very good point, I mean, there's security implications obviously there,
(02:44):
but also nuclear power in space that's a pretty big story.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Correct, justin I mean that really nuclear is the future
for us here on Earth. It's it's the future for
space because it's incredibly long term power that's that's fairly
low maintenance and very reliable. And we've had nuclear powered
spaceships out there for many years, and we're going to
have more and more of these small, containerized, self contained
nuclear actors that we could put it just about anywhere.
(03:11):
And so if this technology works on the Moon, it
could be used for Mars, it could be used for
a large asteroids or something. It's a very futuristic thing
and This is just step one.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Keep an eye on this obviously every day, like I say,
drinking from a firehouse and tech announcements everywhere else. It
really is interesting, by the way, speaking of intelligence and
collection and tech, lots of different folks in the Trump administration,
at least Trump administration one point zero, I've been getting
(03:46):
messages or got them before returning to the serf in
the government that they were being surveilled in. The Google
essentially was sending all kinds of information to the federal
govern without their knowledge at all, which is really chilling.
This is the lawfair, This is the tech implications of
(04:10):
Big Brother at that time, and it is It's a
story that just came out in the last week. I
think Dan Scavino was the first one to confirm this.
This is just wild.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, justin This is wild because technology ushers in ways
that we can be monitored and surveilled that we're completely
not envisioned in specific form by our founding fathers. Obviously
conceptually it was, but not in vision in our legal system.
Our judges, our court systems are not used to separating
(04:42):
you know, reasonable search and warrants and that kind of
thing in the digital world, and just an email and
email service have been around for ages, what twenty thirty
plus years now, and they still don't have a good
handle on that. Think of when more and more advanced
AI AI technology is out there that takes very personal
information that you would think is personal should be personal,
(05:04):
like your inbox and your email is essentially public knowledge
because of all the AI things that call that document
that and have access to that. So very strange time
that we live in where the court system, the legal
system is light years behind the pace of technology data access.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, it really is fascinating. You know. Look, we were
on the other side of this. We got shut down,
we got locked out, we got canceled. By the way,
I talked to Michael Lindell yesterday. We had a great conversation.
You'll be hearing that in the podcast later this week.
Some clips of it too. But this guy is you
talk about getting canceled and everything they ran him through
(05:46):
the ringer. It is. It's wild what they've been doing
to folks behind the scenes. All right, let me do
We'll only have time for maybe like one more or
two stories, and maybe maybe I'll do this one. We're
talking about the future of where everything is headed and
what things ought to look like coming up in the
(06:07):
years ahead. How about this one. This is a story
about robots picking your fruit. Robot hands anyway, they say,
we'll be picking your fruit in the coming days ahead.
They need people for a lot of things right now.
But you know, we've got this Automation and Robotics convention
that happens every year in our own backyard. Maybe we'll
(06:28):
get one of these guys on to talk about some
of the advancements that are being made. They're not there yet,
but this type of thing is coming. They're working on it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, justin These robots have the ability to hand pick fruit,
and not only hand pick them, but also select them
based on the size, based on the ripeness, based on
the color deficiencies. They can leave things that are not
quite ripe yet. They can select the size and sorting
and do all that much better than a human can.
And yes, it's not all there yet because of the
(06:58):
cost and scale of this, but the technology to do
it certainly is there. The robotic machines and systems are
certainly there. It's just going to take another couple of
years for this to get scaled up to the point
where your average, a blueberry farmer or strawberry farmer is
going to be able to afford this technology. And then
in another couple years where it's actually much cheaper than
manual labor, and those jobs of picking strawberries, blueberries, blackberries,
(07:22):
even apples and trees, cherries, all the fruit that we
have around here is going to certainly be picked by
robots in five ten years something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's just hard to imagine, but yeah, that world is
around the corner of people asking like what should we
tell our kids to do now? I think it was
last week or the week before we covered, but there's
a high demand. Five hundred thousand electricians are going to
be needed in the coming years. Plumbers, that type of
thing to the trades are a big, big piece of that.
And you know, this just goes to show AI and
(07:55):
robotics working together where things might be headed. Okay, one
other quick thing, because I think this just shows you
where we are with technology, and it's it's just another
warning sign. Something strange just happened with somebody that rented
an airbnb. I've done this before. It's it's it can
be better than a hotel, depending upon where you are
(08:15):
and what you need. But a lot of times, you know,
I just stick with hotels. But Airbnb has another issue,
another problem. Uh, there's a traveler who booked with them
hit with a seven thousand dollar repair bill that that
wasn't owed. The host claimed they did all kinds of damage.
Turns out the pictures the host used and submitted weren't
(08:37):
real Trent, they were AI.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, justin we've not seen this trend before.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yes, somebody was very dishonest from what it looks like
from how the story you know, reports it. Somebody took
pictures of their apartment or whatever they were renting out
and put all sorts of damage in there, and the
damage looked very real because it's actual pictures. And fortunately
in this case, the AI was poor enough quality that
the renter person the victim saw this say hey, this
(09:07):
isn't real. This is some bad photo shopping, some bad
AI at work here. But it goes to show when
you have a system like Airbnb that's relying on just
simply submitted pictures that can be faked with no verification process.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's the same with your package deliveries.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
If you have a package delivery and there's supposedly a
picture on your porch.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know how easy it is to photoshop a box
on your porch?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh yeah, any sophistication to the person who's doing that.
Anybody can jump on their iPhone or Android phone for
that matter and do that. So we have to be wary.
We have to be not just sit back and be like, Yep,
I'll pay whatever, I'll accept whatever happen. If we believe
that something didn't happen, we're pretty confident of that, we
can push back. There's ways to do that, common sense.
(09:52):
We can't just sit back and let this AI world,
whoever wants to scam us, ruin us.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's the latest warning for what you have to be
and look out. We'll try to keep you up to
date on stories like this and more of the big
and even in the weeds. Thirty thousand foot you know,
sky view and the dirt as well. Always a pleasure. Drink,
can it be affordable? Lize Store, Linke, Michigan Drive and
Standdale always a pleasure. Grand River Tech another way that
(10:19):
they can help you if you need help in the
sort of the bigger scope of things as well, organizations, churches,
that sort of thing. Trent always a pleasure. Thank you
so much for taking the time to be here with
us today.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Thanks Justin, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Hey you got it, you too, God bless
Tack into the latest in tech and how it affects
you and your world. This is tech Talk Tuesday on
Wood Radios West Michigan Live. Welcome in Trent. Can it
be affordable eye store? Like Michigan? Drive it stand down
and the folks at Grant River Tech can help you.
Whether it's a personal device that'd be the affordable eye store.
Maybe it's your business, your organization help getting a set
(00:22):
up secure and making sure everything works properly. Our good
friend Trent will walk you through those things. Hey, good morning,
Welcome in Trent.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Come on justin.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You know, I'm just looking at some of these stores
and I look at you know, all of this. It's
hard to understand when it comes to tech. Maybe what
the biggest piece is of the day, because it all
feels like we're moving so fast or drinking from a
fire hose. It's like every day there's something new and
big announced. What I think even above AI because this
will use AI and it'll be wrapped up some of
(00:51):
that will be wrapped up in here. But how about
this We get a story and it looks like it's
it looks like it's credible. From what I can tell
that the Secretary of Transportation Trump administration is planning to
announce that they are going to put a nuclear reactor
(01:12):
on the Moon. This is incredible if it's a real story,
and if it really happens, Trent, this is stuff out
out of sci fi movies.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yeah, justin it is. It's definitely Duffy has an interest
in this. He's the head of NASA, and NASA obviously
has a lot of interest in this because a nuclear
reactor on the Moon would provide them with the power
needed for a moon base.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
It would provide them with a power needed for.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Surveillance, supervision of the Moon, of who's sending stuff there,
who's doing things there. We got so many people trying
to put probes on the Moon and do different things
with it, and as well as a national security thing,
justin if we don't have any permanent infrastructure with a
power supply there, there's no way to defend turf on
(02:00):
the moon claim space on the Moon. So that's really
the story about this is not some creepy technology or
what they're doing on the Moon. It's more of a
national security thing of who owns the Moon, who owns
space on the Moon, And this isn't a first official
tempt to plant something there that's that's permanent, that can
be monitored and not necessarily defended yet with boots on
(02:21):
the ground. But to start that process of who owns
space on the.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Moon, it'll be robot boots on the the surface of
the moon. Tramp. Let me ask you though, because you
know and you said NASA, I forgot. They did make
him the head and it's also the Secretary of Transportation,
but he's the head of NASA now too. But the
very good point, I mean, there's security implications obviously there,
(02:44):
but also nuclear power in space that's a pretty big story.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Correct, justin I mean that really nuclear is the future
for us here on Earth. It's it's the future for
space because it's incredibly long term power that's that's fairly
low maintenance and very reliable. And we've had nuclear powered
spaceships out there for many years, and we're going to
have more and more of these small, containerized, self contained
nuclear actors that we could put it just about anywhere.
(03:11):
And so if this technology works on the Moon, it
could be used for Mars, it could be used for
a large asteroids or something. It's a very futuristic thing
and This is just step one.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Keep an eye on this obviously every day, like I say,
drinking from a firehouse and tech announcements everywhere else. It
really is interesting, by the way, speaking of intelligence and
collection and tech, lots of different folks in the Trump administration,
at least Trump administration one point zero, I've been getting
(03:46):
messages or got them before returning to the serf in
the government that they were being surveilled in. The Google
essentially was sending all kinds of information to the federal
govern without their knowledge at all, which is really chilling.
This is the lawfair, This is the tech implications of
(04:10):
Big Brother at that time, and it is It's a
story that just came out in the last week. I
think Dan Scavino was the first one to confirm this.
This is just wild.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, justin This is wild because technology ushers in ways
that we can be monitored and surveilled that we're completely
not envisioned in specific form by our founding fathers. Obviously
conceptually it was, but not in vision in our legal system.
Our judges, our court systems are not used to separating
(04:42):
you know, reasonable search and warrants and that kind of
thing in the digital world, and just an email and
email service have been around for ages, what twenty thirty
plus years now, and they still don't have a good
handle on that. Think of when more and more advanced
AI AI technology is out there that takes very personal
information that you would think is personal should be personal,
(05:04):
like your inbox and your email is essentially public knowledge
because of all the AI things that call that document
that and have access to that. So very strange time
that we live in where the court system, the legal
system is light years behind the pace of technology data access.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Yeah, it really is fascinating. You know. Look, we were
on the other side of this. We got shut down,
we got locked out, we got canceled. By the way,
I talked to Michael Lindell yesterday. We had a great conversation.
You'll be hearing that in the podcast later this week.
Some clips of it too. But this guy is you
talk about getting canceled and everything they ran him through
(05:46):
the ringer. It is. It's wild what they've been doing
to folks behind the scenes. All right, let me do
We'll only have time for maybe like one more or
two stories, and maybe maybe I'll do this one. We're
talking about the future of where everything is headed and
what things ought to look like coming up in the
(06:07):
years ahead. How about this one. This is a story
about robots picking your fruit. Robot hands anyway, they say,
we'll be picking your fruit in the coming days ahead.
They need people for a lot of things right now.
But you know, we've got this Automation and Robotics convention
that happens every year in our own backyard. Maybe we'll
(06:28):
get one of these guys on to talk about some
of the advancements that are being made. They're not there yet,
but this type of thing is coming. They're working on it.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, justin These robots have the ability to hand pick fruit,
and not only hand pick them, but also select them
based on the size, based on the ripeness, based on
the color deficiencies. They can leave things that are not
quite ripe yet. They can select the size and sorting
and do all that much better than a human can.
And yes, it's not all there yet because of the
(06:58):
cost and scale of this, but the technology to do
it certainly is there. The robotic machines and systems are
certainly there. It's just going to take another couple of
years for this to get scaled up to the point
where your average, a blueberry farmer or strawberry farmer is
going to be able to afford this technology. And then
in another couple years where it's actually much cheaper than
manual labor, and those jobs of picking strawberries, blueberries, blackberries,
(07:22):
even apples and trees, cherries, all the fruit that we
have around here is going to certainly be picked by
robots in five ten years something like that.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
It's just hard to imagine, but yeah, that world is
around the corner of people asking like what should we
tell our kids to do now? I think it was
last week or the week before we covered, but there's
a high demand. Five hundred thousand electricians are going to
be needed in the coming years. Plumbers, that type of
thing to the trades are a big, big piece of that.
And you know, this just goes to show AI and
(07:55):
robotics working together where things might be headed. Okay, one
other quick thing, because I think this just shows you
where we are with technology, and it's it's just another
warning sign. Something strange just happened with somebody that rented
an airbnb. I've done this before. It's it's it can
be better than a hotel, depending upon where you are
(08:15):
and what you need. But a lot of times, you know,
I just stick with hotels. But Airbnb has another issue,
another problem. Uh, there's a traveler who booked with them
hit with a seven thousand dollar repair bill that that
wasn't owed. The host claimed they did all kinds of damage.
Turns out the pictures the host used and submitted weren't
(08:37):
real Trent, they were AI.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Yeah, justin we've not seen this trend before.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yes, somebody was very dishonest from what it looks like
from how the story you know, reports it. Somebody took
pictures of their apartment or whatever they were renting out
and put all sorts of damage in there, and the
damage looked very real because it's actual pictures. And fortunately
in this case, the AI was poor enough quality that
the renter person the victim saw this say hey, this
(09:07):
isn't real. This is some bad photo shopping, some bad
AI at work here. But it goes to show when
you have a system like Airbnb that's relying on just
simply submitted pictures that can be faked with no verification process.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
It's the same with your package deliveries.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
If you have a package delivery and there's supposedly a
picture on your porch.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know how easy it is to photoshop a box
on your porch?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
Oh yeah, any sophistication to the person who's doing that.
Anybody can jump on their iPhone or Android phone for
that matter and do that. So we have to be wary.
We have to be not just sit back and be like, Yep,
I'll pay whatever, I'll accept whatever happen. If we believe
that something didn't happen, we're pretty confident of that, we
can push back. There's ways to do that, common sense.
(09:52):
We can't just sit back and let this AI world,
whoever wants to scam us, ruin us.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
It's the latest warning for what you have to be
and look out. We'll try to keep you up to
date on stories like this and more of the big
and even in the weeds. Thirty thousand foot you know,
sky view and the dirt as well. Always a pleasure. Drink,
can it be affordable? Lize Store, Linke, Michigan Drive and
Standdale always a pleasure. Grand River Tech another way that
(10:19):
they can help you if you need help in the
sort of the bigger scope of things as well, organizations, churches,
that sort of thing. Trent always a pleasure. Thank you
so much for taking the time to be here with
us today.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Thanks Justin, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Hey you got it, you too, God bless
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