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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We just said.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
The judge comes out and say this, this law for
by Attorney General Vana Essel is completely uncalled for freeze
freeze and clears the names of these alternate electors back
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome in yeah, yeah, these well thanks for having me
on and I am running for the state. Send anybody
who supports with us can go to Thomas Jenorton dot com.
But for the folks that were acquitted yesterday essentially or
the charges dismiss there are a couple of those are
good friends of mine. Mi Sean Maddox's. She's a good
friend of mine. I've known Michean for a long time.
She has been fighting for the conservative movement and in
(00:34):
this state, and she's done wonders. Her husband's a phenomenal
state rep. So, I mean, you're talking about people who
supported Donald Trump, believe the election was stolen, and we
famly believe you watched it happen in Detroit. I mean,
they covered up the windows. That's all the questions you
really have to have to answer for that. They have.
Norm Shankle another really good Republican, former state rep. And
(00:56):
former state Senator are very involved in the state for
many many, many years. So I mean, these are these
are people that they're not They're not criminals or business owners,
they're they're regular Americans, and they were standing up for
the President of the United States, and the charges should
have been dismissed years ago. They shouldn't have had the
weight of the world essentially setting on their shoulders as
(01:16):
long it was clearly political. And now that Donald Trump's
the president again, it's clear that Democrats don't want to
pursue these arguments anymore because they don't have any other
fights so they can pick with them outside of these
policies that are advancing American safety and an American budget
that's going to balance out the United States long term.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Tom Norton with us right now, and again he's running
for Senate here in Michigan. Let's talk a little bit
of lancing in fact that Tom, we're watching this budget
process sort of play out right now, and you know,
it's interesting to see that the Republicans have lots of
answers to get things done, even using money we've already got.
(01:58):
Speaking of the roads, Speaker of the House wants to
get a lot of things done with the roads, get
to actually fixed, actually fix the roads, and using money
that's already out there. Are we going to be able
to get a budget process?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Then?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I know you're not there yet, but what would you
like to see and what would what ought to be
the way that this whole.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thing plays out?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, the first thing the House needs to do is
they actually are going to end up shutting down the
clock with the budget. The governor needs to come to
the table. We do have money for roads. Part of
the thing that's going on with the roads that people
don't realize. We have a couple of Republicans that stabbed
us in the back earlier this year. They actually have
a twenty cent gas tax raised coming up in October first,
(02:40):
and there's state reps that are in the Republican caucus
joined the Democrats and doing that. A couple of them
will probably try to run against me in the seat
because they're big government Republicans. But what we need to
do is we need to have a Department of doze
right here in the state of Michigan. Look at the
fraud that Matt Maddox again bringing him up a second
time here found and help to uncover with forty five
(03:02):
hundred fake paychecks and landing that's all the money we
need to fix a lot of things in roads and education,
and the utter government abuse in Lansing equals that in
DC as well. So we need a check and balance
system to balance out the budget. And so one of
the first things I would fully propose is a Department
of Doge here in Michigan to address that. The other
(03:25):
thing we need to do with our roads is look
at a lot of things. Like they do in Germany,
they use the recycled tires in order to help strengthen
out the asphalt so the roads last longer. They have
more expansion and contraction to free spaw that we have,
and that makes their roads last thirty forty to fifty years.
We have roads falling apart after ten. So we need
to start looking at long term solutions that are going
(03:46):
to save Michigan taxpayers money. Long term. We actually need
to invest in our infrastructure intelligently and from a perspective
of a long term business and not just government waste.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Tom Norton with us right now, you know you just
mentioned something I think is very popular, is this idea
of a Michigan doge. Because whether it's at the at
the federal level or it's at the state level.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This is something that folks.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Are just they just they're just completely they're done with
they've had it with all the waste frond abuse.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But it happens at the local government as well. I
mean back years ago, when I was a village president,
I came into this community on the verge of bankruptcy.
When I walked in there, they were handing the same
family government contracts. That family owned the local newspaper, so
if you read the newspaper articles, I was at till
of the hunt, but the state was ready to take
over the community, and I asked the state for sixty days,
(04:47):
and sixty days we found out we were paying an
extra thousand dollars a month on just insurance. We were
paying eighteen hundred dollars a month on old landline phone service,
and we're talking in the mid twenty and tens. And
I reduced that to one hundred and twenty dollars a month,
and by the time we were done negotiating, we cut
the budget by six thousand dollars a month and didn't
need the state to come in and started paying down debt,
(05:08):
fixing roads, and at the end of the first term
on that board, there, we were able to put up
a military renewal that was a tax cut just by
simply doing that at the local government level. So if
you can find that in a small community, you can
imagine what you can find at the state level on there.
And it's always the same people that are going to
protect their back pocket book. So when you stop and
(05:29):
look at those types of things, you know mainstream media
at every level is going to sit there and usually
has business interests with these people that are essentially pillaging
the taxpayer's dime through backdoor deals that they do. And
if they're doing it at that level, we know we
do it. They do it at the county. I know
that they do it at the state, and we definitely
know they do it at the federal government and anything
(05:52):
that anybody who got to the federal level, they learned
that technique somewhere. So that's why we have to go
through do zero base budgeting, have that Department of Doge
and balance that. There's no reason in my mind that
we ever needed to do this twenty cent gas tax
in christ coming up October first. I bet you we
could have gone through the budget and found every single
(06:13):
dollar needed versus continuing to take money out of the
pocket of tax payers when they need to be able
to afford to drive to work.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Tom Norton running for centat this A thirty Is this
a thirty third district? Is that where this is right now?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Thirty third stay Centate District. I mean, if every one
of your folks went to our website Thomas Jnorton dot
com donated, we could get this thing done really quick.
We are raising money. We're actually we're oddly enough the
front runner in that area. We have endorsements from county commissioners,
We just picked up the endorsement of Roger Stone, have
a couple other major endorsements coming in from around the
(06:50):
country and people that are big Michigan acts. So, I
mean we're a very positive campaign on that, and I've
been looking forward to be able to go to Lansing
and basically tear it a new one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Couple other big things on the on the list when
it comes to this this particular election is going to
be property taxes, the Acts, my tax movement. And then
there's also this this movement to make sure that citizens
and only citizens can vote in our elections. Where are
you on those?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Brian Posumus is doing a phenomenal job with that ballot
initiative on making sure that only citizens are voting. I mean,
everybody should give him a halt off to that. I
mean his family has long time been good Republicans in
the state of Michigan fighting for conservatism, his dad and
former lieutenant governor. So I support that one hundred percent.
Asks my tax I was. I almost supported it the
(07:40):
first time. I didn't because it didn't have the infrastructure
for revenue sharing. But Carlo Wagner has done a good
job at adjusting that, so there's revenue sharing in order
to keep the police and fireplight fighters in place. The
big screaming match on that is because it forces again
some of that government wasts to disappear in order to
(08:01):
maintain that infrastructure. I mean, you look, I'm gonna pick
on Plainfield Avenue. You drive down that, no offense then anybody. Yeah,
they're making it look pretty with these center you know,
the center roads on there. But how much money do
they waste making Plainfield Avenue pretty versus just fixing the
darn road? And how many more roads could we have
fixed versus just blowing this money on the center portion
(08:22):
It's not like Plainfield Avenue is having massive head on
accidents at all, so.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It makes it tough to get around too.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And for businesses there, I know from to get from
one side to the other into some of those businesses,
I've already heard complaints.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, such a waste of taxpayer money. So I mean,
the ax my tax makes my sense because it's gonna
make us spend money intelligently at the local level. A
couple of things I would have liked to add it
is for the ability for local governments to have a
small sales tax like they do in Texas, or a
maybe a local income tax, which we still have in place.
(08:58):
They can do so there's that we can button place
for local revenue spending if they have to have it.
If a community wants to raise their taxes, which should
be up to the voters and not politicians randomly doing it,
just like what they did with the gas tax for
this year. So I support both initiatives. I like the
changes they made to ask my tax this time around.
I have signed the petition, so I mean, I hope
(09:21):
they both pass one.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Last thing for you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I think the biggest issue that I've seen at least
heard from people that are very vocal on this right now.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And it's not just Michigan. I've heard this.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It is happening Indiana, Ohio, some other places too. Is
the issue of energy right now. We're seeing our bills
at the residential level where sand bills go up through
the roof, and I think we're only going to continue
to see that. A lot of that because the wind,
solar and unicorn farts have been pushed on us and
all that technology previously that's not affordable or reliable. That's
(09:51):
been a big problem. And then on top of it,
you're having I think a realistic look at where we're
going in the future, and that is, Hey, at some
point we have to be honest with ourselves. AI these
data centers, they're going to be suck manufacturing, they're going
to be sucking up a lot more. So, how do
we make sure that we do actually have affordable and
reliable energy? And folks here in Michigan starting to fill
(10:14):
that pinch already probably enough.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
The thirty third Senate District has some of the biggest
hydro electric dams that are shutting out. Yeah, in this state,
going through Nowego County. If you go to our website again,
Thomas Jnorton dot com. I actually mentioned energy in this.
We need to actually invest money breat our infrastructure. That's
something the state can do. Remove that tax credits and
great energy. Just remove them. I'd just be done with them.
(10:40):
If people want to have solar panels, they can buy them.
If they want to sell the electric pack, they can
do it at a private level. But these big solar
farms don't make any sense. The only reason they're going
up is tax credits. We need the money to be
reinvested in these hydro dams. We're using them for camping,
we're using them for fishing. They're huge to the local economy,
and the thirty third Senate discs massive to them. So
(11:02):
why not have the byproduct of our recreation producing the
electrical energy we need that's going to affect us in
West Michigan. I think every one of these hydro dams
should be upgraded that technologies there. Hydro Dams are used
in China, they're used in Europe. They're very effective, they
are green, they've been there forever, and they're a renewable
(11:23):
energy source NonStop from rain. And it's not like Michigan
doesn't have an abundancy of water to power Michigan. We
should be if we're going to invest money in energy,
that's where the money should be reinvested. Then we can
enjoy our lakes, we can enjoy our rivers, are in
fishing the recreation we have in that beautiful district as
well as produce the energy needed for the people of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Tom Norton Thomas Jnorton dot com, the website taking a
look here at the thirty third District. Senate Rice, appreciate
you taking the time to.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Join us today.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Thank you, God bless and hopefully everybody has a phenomenal
week right here in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You got it YouTube Tom
We just said.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
The judge comes out and say this, this law for
by Attorney General Vana Essel is completely uncalled for freeze
freeze and clears the names of these alternate electors back
in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Welcome in yeah, yeah, these well thanks for having me
on and I am running for the state. Send anybody
who supports with us can go to Thomas Jenorton dot com.
But for the folks that were acquitted yesterday essentially or
the charges dismiss there are a couple of those are
good friends of mine. Mi Sean Maddox's. She's a good
friend of mine. I've known Michean for a long time.
She has been fighting for the conservative movement and in
(00:34):
this state, and she's done wonders. Her husband's a phenomenal
state rep. So, I mean, you're talking about people who
supported Donald Trump, believe the election was stolen, and we
famly believe you watched it happen in Detroit. I mean,
they covered up the windows. That's all the questions you
really have to have to answer for that. They have.
Norm Shankle another really good Republican, former state rep. And
(00:56):
former state Senator are very involved in the state for
many many, many years. So I mean, these are these
are people that they're not They're not criminals or business owners,
they're they're regular Americans, and they were standing up for
the President of the United States, and the charges should
have been dismissed years ago. They shouldn't have had the
weight of the world essentially setting on their shoulders as
(01:16):
long it was clearly political. And now that Donald Trump's
the president again, it's clear that Democrats don't want to
pursue these arguments anymore because they don't have any other
fights so they can pick with them outside of these
policies that are advancing American safety and an American budget
that's going to balance out the United States long term.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Tom Norton with us right now, and again he's running
for Senate here in Michigan. Let's talk a little bit
of lancing in fact that Tom, we're watching this budget
process sort of play out right now, and you know,
it's interesting to see that the Republicans have lots of
answers to get things done, even using money we've already got.
(01:58):
Speaking of the roads, Speaker of the House wants to
get a lot of things done with the roads, get
to actually fixed, actually fix the roads, and using money
that's already out there. Are we going to be able
to get a budget process?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Then?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I know you're not there yet, but what would you
like to see and what would what ought to be
the way that this whole.
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Thing plays out?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well, the first thing the House needs to do is
they actually are going to end up shutting down the
clock with the budget. The governor needs to come to
the table. We do have money for roads. Part of
the thing that's going on with the roads that people
don't realize. We have a couple of Republicans that stabbed
us in the back earlier this year. They actually have
a twenty cent gas tax raised coming up in October first,
(02:40):
and there's state reps that are in the Republican caucus
joined the Democrats and doing that. A couple of them
will probably try to run against me in the seat
because they're big government Republicans. But what we need to
do is we need to have a Department of doze
right here in the state of Michigan. Look at the
fraud that Matt Maddox again bringing him up a second
time here found and help to uncover with forty five
(03:02):
hundred fake paychecks and landing that's all the money we
need to fix a lot of things in roads and education,
and the utter government abuse in Lansing equals that in
DC as well. So we need a check and balance
system to balance out the budget. And so one of
the first things I would fully propose is a Department
of Doge here in Michigan to address that. The other
(03:25):
thing we need to do with our roads is look
at a lot of things. Like they do in Germany,
they use the recycled tires in order to help strengthen
out the asphalt so the roads last longer. They have
more expansion and contraction to free spaw that we have,
and that makes their roads last thirty forty to fifty years.
We have roads falling apart after ten. So we need
to start looking at long term solutions that are going
(03:46):
to save Michigan taxpayers money. Long term. We actually need
to invest in our infrastructure intelligently and from a perspective
of a long term business and not just government waste.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Tom Norton with us right now, you know you just
mentioned something I think is very popular, is this idea
of a Michigan doge. Because whether it's at the at
the federal level or it's at the state level.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
This is something that folks.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Are just they just they're just completely they're done with
they've had it with all the waste frond abuse.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
But it happens at the local government as well. I
mean back years ago, when I was a village president,
I came into this community on the verge of bankruptcy.
When I walked in there, they were handing the same
family government contracts. That family owned the local newspaper, so
if you read the newspaper articles, I was at till
of the hunt, but the state was ready to take
over the community, and I asked the state for sixty days,
(04:47):
and sixty days we found out we were paying an
extra thousand dollars a month on just insurance. We were
paying eighteen hundred dollars a month on old landline phone service,
and we're talking in the mid twenty and tens. And
I reduced that to one hundred and twenty dollars a month,
and by the time we were done negotiating, we cut
the budget by six thousand dollars a month and didn't
need the state to come in and started paying down debt,
(05:08):
fixing roads, and at the end of the first term
on that board, there, we were able to put up
a military renewal that was a tax cut just by
simply doing that at the local government level. So if
you can find that in a small community, you can
imagine what you can find at the state level on there.
And it's always the same people that are going to
protect their back pocket book. So when you stop and
(05:29):
look at those types of things, you know mainstream media
at every level is going to sit there and usually
has business interests with these people that are essentially pillaging
the taxpayer's dime through backdoor deals that they do. And
if they're doing it at that level, we know we
do it. They do it at the county. I know
that they do it at the state, and we definitely
know they do it at the federal government and anything
(05:52):
that anybody who got to the federal level, they learned
that technique somewhere. So that's why we have to go
through do zero base budgeting, have that Department of Doge
and balance that. There's no reason in my mind that
we ever needed to do this twenty cent gas tax
in christ coming up October first. I bet you we
could have gone through the budget and found every single
(06:13):
dollar needed versus continuing to take money out of the
pocket of tax payers when they need to be able
to afford to drive to work.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Tom Norton running for centat this A thirty Is this
a thirty third district? Is that where this is right now?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Thirty third stay Centate District. I mean, if every one
of your folks went to our website Thomas Jnorton dot
com donated, we could get this thing done really quick.
We are raising money. We're actually we're oddly enough the
front runner in that area. We have endorsements from county commissioners,
We just picked up the endorsement of Roger Stone, have
a couple other major endorsements coming in from around the
(06:50):
country and people that are big Michigan acts. So, I
mean we're a very positive campaign on that, and I've
been looking forward to be able to go to Lansing
and basically tear it a new one.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Couple other big things on the on the list when
it comes to this this particular election is going to
be property taxes, the Acts, my tax movement. And then
there's also this this movement to make sure that citizens
and only citizens can vote in our elections. Where are
you on those?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Brian Posumus is doing a phenomenal job with that ballot
initiative on making sure that only citizens are voting. I mean,
everybody should give him a halt off to that. I
mean his family has long time been good Republicans in
the state of Michigan fighting for conservatism, his dad and
former lieutenant governor. So I support that one hundred percent.
Asks my tax I was. I almost supported it the
(07:40):
first time. I didn't because it didn't have the infrastructure
for revenue sharing. But Carlo Wagner has done a good
job at adjusting that, so there's revenue sharing in order
to keep the police and fireplight fighters in place. The
big screaming match on that is because it forces again
some of that government wasts to disappear in order to
(08:01):
maintain that infrastructure. I mean, you look, I'm gonna pick
on Plainfield Avenue. You drive down that, no offense then anybody. Yeah,
they're making it look pretty with these center you know,
the center roads on there. But how much money do
they waste making Plainfield Avenue pretty versus just fixing the
darn road? And how many more roads could we have
fixed versus just blowing this money on the center portion
(08:22):
It's not like Plainfield Avenue is having massive head on
accidents at all, so.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It makes it tough to get around too.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And for businesses there, I know from to get from
one side to the other into some of those businesses,
I've already heard complaints.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Yeah, such a waste of taxpayer money. So I mean,
the ax my tax makes my sense because it's gonna
make us spend money intelligently at the local level. A
couple of things I would have liked to add it
is for the ability for local governments to have a
small sales tax like they do in Texas, or a
maybe a local income tax, which we still have in place.
(08:58):
They can do so there's that we can button place
for local revenue spending if they have to have it.
If a community wants to raise their taxes, which should
be up to the voters and not politicians randomly doing it,
just like what they did with the gas tax for
this year. So I support both initiatives. I like the
changes they made to ask my tax this time around.
I have signed the petition, so I mean, I hope
(09:21):
they both pass one.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
Last thing for you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I think the biggest issue that I've seen at least
heard from people that are very vocal on this right now.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
And it's not just Michigan. I've heard this.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It is happening Indiana, Ohio, some other places too. Is
the issue of energy right now. We're seeing our bills
at the residential level where sand bills go up through
the roof, and I think we're only going to continue
to see that. A lot of that because the wind,
solar and unicorn farts have been pushed on us and
all that technology previously that's not affordable or reliable. That's
(09:51):
been a big problem. And then on top of it,
you're having I think a realistic look at where we're
going in the future, and that is, Hey, at some
point we have to be honest with ourselves. AI these
data centers, they're going to be suck manufacturing, they're going
to be sucking up a lot more. So, how do
we make sure that we do actually have affordable and
reliable energy? And folks here in Michigan starting to fill
(10:14):
that pinch already probably enough.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
The thirty third Senate District has some of the biggest
hydro electric dams that are shutting out. Yeah, in this state,
going through Nowego County. If you go to our website again,
Thomas Jnorton dot com. I actually mentioned energy in this.
We need to actually invest money breat our infrastructure. That's
something the state can do. Remove that tax credits and
great energy. Just remove them. I'd just be done with them.
(10:40):
If people want to have solar panels, they can buy them.
If they want to sell the electric pack, they can
do it at a private level. But these big solar
farms don't make any sense. The only reason they're going
up is tax credits. We need the money to be
reinvested in these hydro dams. We're using them for camping,
we're using them for fishing. They're huge to the local economy,
and the thirty third Senate discs massive to them. So
(11:02):
why not have the byproduct of our recreation producing the
electrical energy we need that's going to affect us in
West Michigan. I think every one of these hydro dams
should be upgraded that technologies there. Hydro Dams are used
in China, they're used in Europe. They're very effective, they
are green, they've been there forever, and they're a renewable
(11:23):
energy source NonStop from rain. And it's not like Michigan
doesn't have an abundancy of water to power Michigan. We
should be if we're going to invest money in energy,
that's where the money should be reinvested. Then we can
enjoy our lakes, we can enjoy our rivers, are in
fishing the recreation we have in that beautiful district as
well as produce the energy needed for the people of Michigan.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Tom Norton Thomas Jnorton dot com, the website taking a
look here at the thirty third District. Senate Rice, appreciate
you taking the time to.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Join us today.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Thank you, God bless and hopefully everybody has a phenomenal
week right here in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
You got it YouTube Tom
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