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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's West Michigan Live with Justin Barklay on Wood Radio Radio.
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seven four, twenty four, twenty four Plus a couple of
guests you want to hear from the day we got
a budget here at Michigan. We'll talk about that. Our
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Not.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
A federal judge in Oregon has shutdown plants to send
help to people under siege in Portland. She temporarily blocked
the Trump administration for singing in the National Guard and
those troops to Portland rolling at the protests outside the
ice facil they don't amount to a rebellion or justify
military intervention, which has got to be the craziest thing
(01:56):
I've ever heard. Has she not seen the videos? Has
she not heard from the people of Portland who are
under siege. These people are suffering, and she's put politics
right in the middle of it. In fact, she's written
a broader restraining order barring any National Guard deployments from
other places like California or Texas. As President Trump looking
(02:18):
for ways to get around all of it. Chicago's mayor
also feeling the brunt of some of this, because they're
talking about bringing those folks to Chicago as well. He's saying, Oh,
you know, this is just some sort of astoritarian game
and we're not gonna play it. And I folks, some
(02:39):
of this stuff. You gotta And by the way, he's
allament MSDNC as he says it, you gotta wonder has
it ever been more clear to you who the commies,
who the enemies are of this state, not just the nation,
but the people.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, the tensions are certainly high in the city of Chicago.
What the President's doing is absolutely dangerous and unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Dangerous, not the murders, not the historic crime, not the
horrifics attacks on ICE. In fact, I don't know if
you've heard what happened over the weekend in Oregon, in
Portland it's itself, but also in Chicago over the weekend
we had a journalist who was arrested by Portland police,
(03:21):
a conservative journalist arrested in Oregon for covering what's happening there.
And then in Chicago over the weekend we had ICE
agents under attack from domestic terrorists, rammed with cars, and
the Chicago police refusing to send in back up and reinforcements.
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It's absolutely horrific. And again you've got folks on the
left who refuse to quiet down and tamp down that rutter.
I guess it's wild to watch. Got to pray for
these folks. Day six of the Schumer's shutdown, a federal
government still partially close, no deal yet there, and some say, hey,
you know what that's okay? In facts? Is Trump ready
(04:07):
to pull the Trump card? He says, maybe you're ready
to go ahead and start the firings. Russ vote has
a long list and he's checking it twice. And there's
some non essential government employees that might find out they've
not been nice, and uh, they'll be on the naughty list.
Quit here in the days ahead. The Michigan legislature meanwhile
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passing a record breaking eighty one billion dollar budget. So
what's in it? Great questions. We're gonna give you some
highlights here and our next guest will dive deeper into it.
But House Speaker Matt Hall touting the plan is a
win for workers and taxpayers, Hall saying Republicans cutting over
two thousand ghost jobs without having have it to lay
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off a single employee. The budget includes targeted tax relief.
According to the Midwestern or eliminating test eight taxes on tips.
Remember the tech no tax on tips, Well that was
federal no tax on overtime either at the state level,
and Social Security income won't be taxed as well. Move
expected to benefit over five hundred thousand, half a million
(05:15):
folks here in the state of Michigan. Final approval coming
just before the deadline, and the latest on this story
and more. And you can jump in and join the
program at any time as we speak. As I mentioned
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MKD Funeral. Howks, let's click that micro microphone there and
Rant Raves sound off. That's exactly how we do it.
Welcome into the conversation today about the budget, specifically State Rep.
Joseph Fox, no stranger to the program. I always appreciate
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you being here with us today, sir, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's very good to be here with you, justin and
thanks for the opportunity to share about the budget and
to share about my up and coming campaign.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's right, Ronnick for Senate. We're going to get into
all these things, but first you have madeor news on
this budget. Some really good things we just went through.
Why don't you walk us through some things you're most
excited about.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well, I'm most excited about the cutting of waste, fraud
and abuse in our state. Like you said, already, we're
eliminating taxes on tips, taxes on overtime pay, and it
will be a reduced tax, especially on Social Security. I
would encourage you to talk to your tax person about
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the Social Security piece. We have eliminated two thousand ghost jobs,
in other words, easier jobs, FTEs, full time equivalents that
have been put in past budgets but now are being
taken out because those funds were just simply going into
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the budgets of the various bureaus, but the funds were
not being spent, and in fact, they probably were being
re routed to other areas. We go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
No, that's fantastic. Not not to interrupt at all, But
but wait, there's more, like they said the infomercials, right.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, there's lots more. We UH have set aside two
billion dollars for roads and this is uh, you know,
the governor has this has been her major connection to
our our budget talks because, as you know, she wants
to fix the darn roads, and most of that money
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are a big percentage of that money, I should say,
is going toward the more rural situations. The thing I'm
most excited about is that we set in place transparency
plan for earmarks. And you hear the word earmarked kind
of thing pork, And it's without question that the Democrats
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have shown themselves through this budget process as being addicted
to pork. But what we did is we started way
back in the spring requiring that anybody who wanted to
get an ear mark had to do an application online
with their name, with their plan, and that it had
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to be clearly laid out what was wanted, what was expected.
And all of those ear marks went online and so
anybody in the state could look at them, and at
that point in time there were over eight or eight
hundred of them submitted. Long story short. Then we all
had to go through interviews based on these ear marks,
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and there was no way that you could get any
pork or any special monies unless you had gone through
this process first applied, then go through the interview, and
then allowed it to be evaluated. But the exciting thing
is is that this is going to be put into
our standards for making budgets into the future. You'll see
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a bill coming up in the future that will focus
just on this idea of transparency of earmarks. Going on
down the page, we have reduced the overall size of
state government. Since Governor Whittmer came into office. Our state
government has grown by approximately forty three percent. Last year,
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our budget was approximately eighty three billion. This year it's
gone down to less than or our right balanced around
eighty one billion. But we do have plans in place
that can continue to reduce that budget. There was lots
of talk about what's going to happen with schools. We
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have put for a record additional four hundred and forty
two dollars more per student, with the foundation allowance being
ten thousand and fifty dollars per student. And you know
this has not gone gone up significantly in the last
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couple of years. But included in this are the categoricals
for transportation and other special programs that the schools like
to see in the budget.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Red Cholseph Fox with us right now and going through
some of these, uh, some of these big pieces of
the budget. We heard a lot of back and forth
on this what did it take to get to get
this done? Because I know that you all in the
House this this this was done a while ago, working
together to make sure that it was passed. Obviously, the
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Senate had to come together on this. It's very similar
to what we're watching play out now at the federal level.
Can you walk us through what that process was like?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, good question. Really, we had a school budget done
already back in June, and you know, it then went
to the Senate for them to look at and didn't
get touched until during the last couple of weeks. We
put forth our total budget they call it the omnibus
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budget in early September, but again laid on the desks
in the Senate, and so it was the process of
going through and figuring out number one where the Dems
wanted to add and our governor wanted to add more taxes. Well,
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we said, okay, so why don't we put it on marijuana.
And we've seen more than one protest about this at
the Capitol, but it was decided, and this was a
bipartisan decision, that we would tax marijuana at twenty four
percent wholesale and that boosted our income. We also took
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a look at every place where like I mentioned already
with the ghost jobs, any other places where we could
drag back funds and not misspend them. For example, we
closed down as part of this budget, we've closed down
the sore account. So ar that's strategic. Now this is
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upgraating fund.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, this is big one, and I know you've been
right in the middle of it. But like some of
these projects like Ghoshen, et cetera, this is Explain what
the sore fund is so that people under This is
kind of like the corporate welfare stuff that's been happening
behind the scenes and making things really bad for folks.
Explain what that is and why that's so important here.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, it's good you use the word corp welfare because
that's exactly what the sore fund does. Is it's a
pool of money that has grown, and it's grown into
a spot where where it's the governor that makes decisions
about how it can be spent. And like you mentioned already,
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some of that money has been spent in places that
the people of Michigan that we the people. It's been
spent where we would not want to spend it. And
for example, Goshen, I think that again, hats off to
those grassroots people in that big Rapids area who fought
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against Goshen and to all practical purposes. Goshen is now
dead and the Sore Fund is soon going to be
buried along with it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I think that a lot of folks that will be
celebrating that, and especially once they start to understand the
significance of that some of these real like sort of
scam projects that they were trying to get past. It's
it's been a real, a real problem. H Hang on
one second, folks, because Rep. Joseph Fox is with us
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right now. He's running for senate here in Michigan. We've
been talking about the budget this morning, and I want
to continue talking with him, but he's running for senate.
I want to give him a chance to make that
pitch and also to let you know where you can
find out more as we continue our conversation, We've got
a break for brief moment. Just get us up to
speed on the latest in the headlines from the Midwesterner.
(14:37):
We'll do just that and more, But please join us
if you're able and rise for our national anthem.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Here are your headlines from the Midwesterner this Monday, October
sixth time Robin Poffman, it's a Midwesterner. Dot News original story.
The Michigan Legislature approves an eighty one billion dollar budget.
House Speaker Republican Matt Hall saying we cut over two
thousand ghost jobs and we didn't lay off one worker.
The budget deliverers targeted tax relief by ending state taxes
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on tips, overtime pay, and Social Security income. This change
affecting more than five hundred thousand residents here in Michigan.
The ACLU suing Ice to demand release hearings for illegal
immigrant Michigan residents. Eight residents are being represented by the
ACLU while they entered the US without authorization or documentation,
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some as long as twenty five years ago. And President
Trump celebrating the Navy's two hundred and fiftieth birthday in
an event in Norfolk, Virginia, and route back to the
White House reporters asking him about the government shutdown.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Thanking place right now, And it's all because of the Democrats.
The Democrats are causing the loss of a lot of
jobs with their it's a shutdown. It's there shutdown, not
our shutdown. It's there shutdown.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
For these stories, and more visit the Midwesterner at the
Midwesterner dot News.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, we are fired up and rolling full speed along.
Repjo Fox is running for Senate here in Michigan. In fact,
he just filled us in on some of the issues
of the budget. May get some more questions answered it,
but making the leap to the Senate tell us, lots
of folks in your neck of the woods already know
you're very familiar with you. But the Senate, it's a
(17:33):
little bit of a different district. Sure why it is
so important for you? And uh and really for your
mission here in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Well, yeah, I am running for the thirty third Senate district.
The current senator state senator there is retiring, so looking
to replace him. And this new district, yes, is about
three times as large as a house district. It includes
all of Noego County, all of Montcalm County, three fourths
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of Lake County, three fourths of Ionia County, ten townships,
the northern part of Kent County, and three townships in
Muskegan and one township in Ottawa. So it's more shaped
like a boomerang and the way it goes. But yes,
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I am continuing with my focus on faith, family and freedom.
And also I include another F farming. What I often
say is if you hear the letter F, think fox.
So you know I am a person of of you know,
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having been married for over forty years, I'm having a
family of four kids. I now have number fourteen grandchild
on the way. I'll just hear all the f's and family.
I'm serving on the Family and Veterans Committee along with
the Education Committee, and with my twenty five years in
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Christian education, you know, those type of things are are
being very helpful, along with being director of the Commission
on Aging here in Nuego County for a few years.
It's it's a really good thing with freedom. I am
serving on in particular the Election Integrity Committee, and I
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would say to people that if you want to bring
yourself get yourself updated, go to the Michigan State House
of Representatives archives and look at all the testimony we've had.
We currently have our Secretary of State in a court case.
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We are joining up with what the federal is doing
with a desire to be transparent about our qualified BOK
voter file. And again and again we've heard testimony on that.
So fighting for our freedom that's found in voting. And finally,
the thing I always like to say is, I'm a patriot,
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not a politician. Politicians are most concerned about the next election.
They're very willing to say what they think you want
to hear. They're even very willing to change their addresses
to get into a place where they think they can
be better elected. But long story short, I'm a patriot,
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and patriots, I believe, are concerned about the next generation.
And for me, the passage that the Lord has given
me for this run is Psalm seventy one eighteen. And
I always like to make sure that my gray hair shows.
And I'm talking about this because the verse begins with
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even when I am old and gray, do not forsake me,
Oh God, till I declare your power to the next generation,
your might to all who are to come. And this
is the calling that I believe the Lord is late
in my life. In this thirty third Senate District race.
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It's not for my glory, It's for the Lord's glory.
And I want to declare his power, his might to
the next generation and to join Charlie Kirk, to join
President Trump, to join other patriots in fighting for faith
and family and freedom. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Stay robed. Joe Fox run I first Senate. If you
want to find out more, vote Joseph Fox dot com.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We appreciate it, and I do have it coming up,
just so you know, meet and greet on the fourteenth.
They're in Grand Rapids at Kent County GOP headquarters. I'm
sure you can go to their website. So it's Tuesday,
October fourteenth, six to eight pm. And then I have
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also a campaign kickoff at ant Bell's Kitchen, which is
just south of Bostwick Lake there in northern Kent County,
and that's six to eight on Thursday the sixteenth. And
in both those situations we're also going to be remembering
Charlie Kirk's birthday. I know we have a special cake
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especially at that gathering on the sixteenth. They're south of
Bostwick Lake, east of Rockford, so I hope that people
can come and join in.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Thank you so much appreciation. I appreciate it again. Vote
Joseph Fox dot com. Is the website back with more
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or for the for the country, but for the state
of Michigan. Twenty six I think is going to be
equally as big in studio with us right now as
Eaton County Prosecutor Doug Lloyd, and he's running for attorney general.
So I appreciate you being here with us today.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In studio with you.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Absolutely, you got quite a track record yourself, but you're
looking at the things that need to be done here
in the state. Why there's been so much conversation back
and forth about where we need to go to get
things back on track. What's your sense of what needs
to happen and what matters most for this particular position.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well, for this position, it really comes down to just leadership.
I've looked at the last six years with the Attorney
General and we've seen a lot of political activism. You know,
the Attorney general is doing things that she likes, right,
but that's not what the Attorney general is supposed to do.
Attorney general is chief League loss are supposed to defend
the state, protect all ten million citizens' rights, and that's
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just not happening. And so as a local county prosecutor,
I see it at the I see it at the
ground level, and it's it's not a hard concept to
believe that, you know, we can actually work within a budget,
work with the budget that the legislature gives us, and
actually bring in leadership that's going to tell the workers
there at the Attorney General's office that we're going to
stop being politicians and we're going to actually get back
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to representing the people of the state.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You know, And to your point, I've seen this play
out recently. We're watching it in other states right now too.
Is there a lot of legal questions that are flying
through the air. And I don't know. I just look
at things from am like a common sense approach. I'm
not an attorney. I don't know, but it does seem
like we've seen in particularly over the last several years,
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that there is a certain as you mentioned, approach. It's
it's a rules for thee and for me kind of approach.
And I don't care what side of the isle you're
on that that didn't that didn't do well for any
of us. I don't think no.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And what I've seen justin is that we're you know,
we have a lot of attorney generals out there, both
at the federal and the state level that are prosecuting
from a podium, and that's not what you're supposed to do.
You know, when you're actually building a case and investigating
a case, then you're supposed to review all those facts,
and ethically, you should never bring it forward until you
(26:30):
can actually put that piece of paper in front of
a judge. And so when people are getting out there
saying that, hey, I'm going to go and you know,
I'm gonna go and prosecute Trump, you know, when you
run on that is your platform for an attorney general spot,
you're basically saying that, you know, I'm biased, but I'm
going to go ahead and do it. That's not how
we're supposed to be. We're supposed to be representing all
ten million people, not just a certain few that we
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kind of like.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
We saw that in New York specifically exactly. And it
turns out we heard throughout that entire time. No one
is above the law, right right. It turns out now
that particular individual and New York is being looked at
for some issues that she's had in her past. A
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lot of this, I guess these people have felt like
there were no consequences to these actions, that we lived
in a world where for a lot of a lot
of folks there weren't consequences to action. I, for one,
and I know a lot of folks feel the same way,
would like to see us return to that world where
there are consequences for these actions. And by the way,
I think that would save a lot of people a
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lot of trouble. And I think it saved a lot
of lives too well.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And that's that's the interesting thing, right justin is that
the local people, you know, the citizens of our community,
they think about actions every day, right, we all try
to be good citizens, and the citizens who choose not
to be, well, they're subject to court. Well, why is
it that when we leave that local level and we
go up to the state of the federal level, that
seems to disappear and that from me, it makes no sense.
(28:01):
And that's where really I come in going you know what,
I have the experience of thirty years as a prosecutor.
Since twenty thirteen, I've been the elected prosecutor in Eaton County.
I understand what leadership means, and that's really what it's
going to take, is that actually somebody's got to put
their foot down, be the adult in the room and
actually say, you know what, if we can do it
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at the county level, we can do it at the
city the township level, Well why can't it be done
at the state level.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
What are some of the toughest things that you've had
to face as a prosecutor through those years. I can
imagine it's not an easy job.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, I mean you've taken the thirty years that I've
been doing it. You know, you've got drug dealers, rapists,
you know, murderers and even corrupt politicians. I prosecuted Ama,
you know. I mean that's where I tell everybody. You know,
I've got to proven conservative track record that you can
go watch. You can go on Court TV and see
the latest murder case that I actually did nine days
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of a murder case that involved bringing a woman back
from I mean, all the extradition issues that went with it.
Then you got just the budget issues. You know, they
just cut the Attorney General's you know budget this year
and they actually took it from one big ball line
item where they just had a slush fund and actually
broke it down to mini light light items. Your county prosecutor, well,
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they're they're doing that every year. You know, your county clerk,
your your county treasurery, they have to live within a budget.
Why is it when we get to the state level,
we all of a sudden can't live within a budget,
but yet you make your locals do it every single year.
So these are issues that you know, I've been facing
since I was the elected prosecutor, and so it's not
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a it's not a new concept. It really comes down
to can you just walk in day one and say
I'm gonna to actually do this, or you look at
the people and say no more, no more political lawsuits,
no more political prosecutions. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Doug Lloyd's with us right now. He's the Eaton County
Prosecutor's running for attorney general here in Michigan. As we
talked about some of these issues that folks are looking up,
we you know, you just sort of touched on the
law fair portion. We've kind of walked around that, but
what are some of the other issues that Michigan faces.
It may not be necessarily on the radar yet for
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some folks who are looking maybe you see down the road.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
For me, it's really getting back to that simplistic idea
of actually just being effective for the state. You know.
I talked to people around the country and I was
talking to one oil company and they said, well, you know,
I know who your attorney general is. And I said, well,
why do you have an infrastructure here in our state?
And they're like, well, no, no, we don't actually touch
(30:43):
your state. Well then why would you know who our
attorney general is? What would be your you know, other
than just being a multinational company, right, And he was like, well,
we get threatened to be sued by your attorney general
all the time. Why you have no infrastructure in our state?
How is that lawsuit going to benefit? So for me,
it's really going to be sitting down that first day
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and going all right, department heads, let's meet, because it's
time to actually start protecting the citizens in Michigan. And
I think we're having a lot of you know, wasted
tax dollars because we're actually taking those assistants and we're
asking them to do things that have absolutely no help
to the state. They don't help us at all. They
don't help the citizens. You know. Another big thing is that,
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you know, as I'm traveling around the state, I was
up in the Upper Peninsula last week, and you know,
they talked about just the lack of support. They just
fell left out. No one thinks of them. And that's
one of the real things that attorney general is supposed
to do, and they used to do it. They're actually
supposed to be helping those local counties. If those local prosecutors,
you know, are those local clerks are having issues, they
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should be able to pick up the phone and call
the Attorney General and actually get help. And it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
These are just some of the things we'll be discussing
here in twenty twenty six. I believe in this, this
next upcoming election and beyond. But again it really kind
of I think underscores how important it is for the
state of Michigan. We see a lot of things happening
at the national level. We see a lot of promise
there from the twenty twenty four election, the results there.
(32:14):
This is this is now. I believe our moment here
in Michigan to get things back on track, and you
likely will play a big role in that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well. I think it's important. I mean, you've had all
the governors on and they all come with their own experience,
and the people are going to decide that, but you know,
each one of them has experience and that's important, and
I think that's what you have to look at when
you're looking at you know, that down ballot, when you're
looking at the Secretary of State and the Attorney general,
do you have people who just have ideas or do
you have people who have experience who can actually turn
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the state around. Because that's what it's going to take,
is that trifecta of jobs right there, the governor, the
Attorney General, and the Secretary of State to actually put
a hard stop to the wave Michigan that's been going
and bring it back to the way that people used
to remember it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I want to find out more. I know you can
go online, You've got a great website here. What's the
best way because I also know that you want to
talk to people and you're going, like you said, you
were up up in the up just a couple of
days ago. You'd like to I'm sure, shake hands and
have those conversations.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
With bele I. Do you know we're we got another
couple events here in West Michigan. We'll be in Monroe tonight.
But yeah, vote Doug Lloyd dot Com is the website
and on all the social media, Doug Lloyd Prosecutor is Facebook.
That's where you can follow all my excursions. My son
Nick and I just got back from two thousand miles
and two weeks up in the up hit now fifteen
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counties up there, and so yeah, yeah, we're you know,
we were in Luddington yesterday and so we're getting out
because as you know, justin it's a delegate convention. You
know a lot of people don't know that. They go, hey, Doug,
I support you, I'm going to vote for you. Well,
are you a delegate? Yeah, because if you're not a delegate,
you may never get a chance to vote for me.
It's going to be two thousand people March twenty eighth
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who are going to make that decision as too, as
to who the Attorney General and Secretary of State are
moving on. So it's important that they get out and
decide do they want experience or do they just want
great ideas? Because great ideas aren't going to get it done.
We've seen what's happened in the last six years where
people come in with their ideas hasn't been very effective
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for those that the rest of us in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You know. As interesting as you make that point, Doug
Lloyd here running for the Attorney General, that race, along
with the Secretary of State, does happen at the convention.
So it's a little different. But you still have to
cover all the ground, don't you have to get to
all these different places.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, you're going to find two thousand people, right, I mean,
there's six thousand plus delegates precinct delegates in the state
and that will be condensed down at a county convention
to two thousand people to go to the state conventions.
So yes, you need to hit eighty three counties if
you can in order to meet those delegates, and at
the same time you want to get the general public
to know who you are as well.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, it's a big race. We look forward to hearing
how it all works out, how it plays out, and
of course your role on it. Happy to have you
back in if you'd love to come back sometime and
come back on and talk about what's going on and
what you see on the ground because these are stories
and I think again a position that people don't realize
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until it winds up in the hands of somebody like
the current Attorney General Dan and Nessel, how sideways things
can go and what's really needed to get them back
on track.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Right now, If you're not protecting the state and only
living up to the desires of yourself, then yeah, that
state's going to go sideways. And so that's exactly why
I got into the race, and justin I'd love to
be back on your show anytime you need me.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
My pleasure. Thank you, sir, Doug Lloyd here with us,
and again if you want to go online to the website,
he's got it up right now and find out vote
Doug Lloyd dot com. That's vote Doug Lloyd dot com.
Two wells there and obviously always a pleasure, Thank you, sir.
You got it back with more in just moments. Don't
go anywhere. Folks who got the latest the Midwesterner The
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Midwesterner dot News as we catch up with news around
the state and beyond on West Michigan Live.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Here are your headlines from the Midwestern Or this Monday,
October sixth, I'm Robin Hoffman. It's a Midwesterner Dot news
original story. The ACLU here in Michigan suing Ice, the
group demanding release hearings for eight illegals who have been
living here in our state. The eight entered our country illegally,
and one person has actually been here for almost twenty
(36:29):
five years. In other news, the Michigan Legislature approves an
eighty one billion dollar budget. House Speaker Republican Matt Hall says,
we cut over two thousand ghost jobs and we didn't
lay off one Michigan worker. President Trump celebrating the Navy's
two hundred and fiftieth birthday at an event in Norfolk, Virginia.
He addresses the government shutdown as he speaks to the
(36:50):
members of the military.
Speaker 5 (36:52):
And I want you to know that despite the current
Democrat induced shutdown, we will get our service members every
last Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'll worry about it, you'll worry about.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Do not worry about it. It's all coming. It's coming.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
For these stories and more, visit the Midwesterner at the
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Speaker 1 (37:17):
Just sort of, I don't know, kind of out of
my element. If you can imagine me feeding goats walking
through the pasture there the farmland. We went to u
Schwalliers over the weekend, and of course, you know, they
got the pumpkins, and they got the apples, the apples,
cider and all of them. They got the goats, and
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the girls love the goats, so Dad, let's go feed
the goats. So you want to go see the goats.
So of course there I was with them and do
a little bit of walking through the orchard and all
that stuff, and a little warmer than normal for this
time of year. By the way, it looks like things
are cooling off on the way. You'll have that to
look forward to. Well, I tell you it's things like that,
(38:00):
and I kind of take for granted now because well
you used to. I didn't really want to do a
lot of that walking around and of course on your feet,
your legs, your foot pain, back pain, things like that.
You know a lot of times that stuff can just
keep you well, keep you off your feet, grounded, so
to speak, and not in a good way, especially when
(38:22):
you want to be out. You've got a couple of
little girls like me, and you want to make sure
that they have the time of their life, and you
don't have a lot of time. That's where the Good
Feed Store can help. Maybe there's some things you've been
putting off, some things that you'd like to get done. Well,
they can help very very possible, like they help me.
Walk in today to the Good Feed Store on twenty
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A Street right in front of Costco or in Portage
on Westnage in front of Coals and you can see
if they can help you like they have for me.
Come and experience a good feet feeling for yourself at
the Good Feet Store. Oh and by the way, good
news big event this weekend and raising money to help
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fight cancer. Love to see you out there, and again
I think it is noon to til. I'll get you
all the details about it and if you want to
find it, we'll make sure we post them up online
on our Facebook page. Again thanks to the Good Feed Store.
All right, I've got couple of things that I got
to make sure we get to coming up in the
after show. This is the show after the show. If
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you've never had a chance to listen, of course, you
could listen live and archive to this show right here
on his radio Wood thirteen hundred and one O six
nine FM, But you can also listen on the iHeartRadio
App Live. But then archives is, Oh, we put up
the podcast every single day. So what are we talking
about today? Well, the Trump card is coming, but there
(39:46):
is also something that happened over the weekend that you've
got to hear. There is troubling evidence police radio proving
the Chicago police told not to help Ice agents when
they were in trouble. Stand down essentially was the order
that was given. We're gonna get into that. What I
think is the most dangerous piece of this and more
(40:06):
as we see things sort of uh well, are kind
of breaking loose and we got to keep an eye
on this. I'm gonna tell you why coming up a
little bit later on in the after show. That's the
show after the show, So make sure you stick with us,
and if you can, you can jump on over Facebook, Twitter, Actionable,
get our locals, YouTube, all those places justin barklay dot
com and the iHeartRadio app where we always put these
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shows up every single day so you don't miss a moment.
Thanks to our guest today, Rep. Joseph Fox aed Eton
County Prosecutor Doug Lloyd, both running for office. Joseph Fox
is Senate here in the thirty third district and Doug
Lloyd wants to be your next Attorney General. Okay, okay,
(40:51):
that's gonna do it. For now. The Glenn Back Program
is coming out. We make sure you get all the
latest updates and the headlines top of the hour news
right after this. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Make
It's West Michigan Live with Justin Barklay on Wood Radio Radio.
I'll welcome in on a weekend and the news never stops,
never let well time to cover nearly half of it.
Will do our best try to get you the latest
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anywhere else today. Give you a chance to weigh into
if you want to jump on the phones, feel free,
more than welcome to do that. Six one, six, seven,
seven four, twenty four, twenty four Plus a couple of
guests you want to hear from the day we got
a budget here at Michigan. We'll talk about that. Our
first guest on the way world too set back, use
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weather and traffic.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I won't get stories of the day.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We are talking about what matters most in West Michigan
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A federal judge in Oregon has shutdown plants to send
help to people under siege in Portland. She temporarily blocked
the Trump administration for singing in the National Guard and
those troops to Portland rolling at the protests outside the
ice facil they don't amount to a rebellion or justify
military intervention, which has got to be the craziest thing
(01:56):
I've ever heard. Has she not seen the videos? Has
she not heard from the people of Portland who are
under siege. These people are suffering, and she's put politics
right in the middle of it. In fact, she's written
a broader restraining order barring any National Guard deployments from
other places like California or Texas. As President Trump looking
(02:18):
for ways to get around all of it. Chicago's mayor
also feeling the brunt of some of this, because they're
talking about bringing those folks to Chicago as well. He's saying, Oh,
you know, this is just some sort of astoritarian game
and we're not gonna play it. And I folks, some
(02:39):
of this stuff. You gotta And by the way, he's
allament MSDNC as he says it, you gotta wonder has
it ever been more clear to you who the commies,
who the enemies are of this state, not just the nation,
but the people.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Well, the tensions are certainly high in the city of Chicago.
What the President's doing is absolutely dangerous and unconstitutional.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Dangerous, not the murders, not the historic crime, not the
horrifics attacks on ICE. In fact, I don't know if
you've heard what happened over the weekend in Oregon, in
Portland it's itself, but also in Chicago over the weekend
we had a journalist who was arrested by Portland police,
(03:21):
a conservative journalist arrested in Oregon for covering what's happening there.
And then in Chicago over the weekend we had ICE
agents under attack from domestic terrorists, rammed with cars, and
the Chicago police refusing to send in back up and reinforcements.
(03:43):
It's absolutely horrific. And again you've got folks on the
left who refuse to quiet down and tamp down that rutter.
I guess it's wild to watch. Got to pray for
these folks. Day six of the Schumer's shutdown, a federal
government still partially close, no deal yet there, and some say, hey,
you know what that's okay? In facts? Is Trump ready
(04:07):
to pull the Trump card? He says, maybe you're ready
to go ahead and start the firings. Russ vote has
a long list and he's checking it twice. And there's
some non essential government employees that might find out they've
not been nice, and uh, they'll be on the naughty list.
Quit here in the days ahead. The Michigan legislature meanwhile
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passing a record breaking eighty one billion dollar budget. So
what's in it? Great questions. We're gonna give you some
highlights here and our next guest will dive deeper into it.
But House Speaker Matt Hall touting the plan is a
win for workers and taxpayers, Hall saying Republicans cutting over
two thousand ghost jobs without having have it to lay
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off a single employee. The budget includes targeted tax relief.
According to the Midwestern or eliminating test eight taxes on tips.
Remember the tech no tax on tips, Well that was
federal no tax on overtime either at the state level,
and Social Security income won't be taxed as well. Move
expected to benefit over five hundred thousand, half a million
(05:15):
folks here in the state of Michigan. Final approval coming
just before the deadline, and the latest on this story
and more. And you can jump in and join the
program at any time as we speak. As I mentioned
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MKD Funeral. Howks, let's click that micro microphone there and
Rant Raves sound off. That's exactly how we do it.
Welcome into the conversation today about the budget, specifically State Rep.
Joseph Fox, no stranger to the program. I always appreciate
(05:56):
you being here with us today, sir, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
It's very good to be here with you, justin and
thanks for the opportunity to share about the budget and
to share about my up and coming campaign.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That's right, Ronnick for Senate. We're going to get into
all these things, but first you have madeor news on
this budget. Some really good things we just went through.
Why don't you walk us through some things you're most
excited about.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Well, I'm most excited about the cutting of waste, fraud
and abuse in our state. Like you said, already, we're
eliminating taxes on tips, taxes on overtime pay, and it
will be a reduced tax, especially on Social Security. I
would encourage you to talk to your tax person about
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the Social Security piece. We have eliminated two thousand ghost jobs,
in other words, easier jobs, FTEs, full time equivalents that
have been put in past budgets but now are being
taken out because those funds were just simply going into
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the budgets of the various bureaus, but the funds were
not being spent, and in fact, they probably were being
re routed to other areas. We go ahead.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
No, that's fantastic. Not not to interrupt at all, But
but wait, there's more, like they said the infomercials, right.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
Yeah, there's lots more. We UH have set aside two
billion dollars for roads and this is uh, you know,
the governor has this has been her major connection to
our our budget talks because, as you know, she wants
to fix the darn roads, and most of that money
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are a big percentage of that money, I should say,
is going toward the more rural situations. The thing I'm
most excited about is that we set in place transparency
plan for earmarks. And you hear the word earmarked kind
of thing pork, And it's without question that the Democrats
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have shown themselves through this budget process as being addicted
to pork. But what we did is we started way
back in the spring requiring that anybody who wanted to
get an ear mark had to do an application online
with their name, with their plan, and that it had
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to be clearly laid out what was wanted, what was expected.
And all of those ear marks went online and so
anybody in the state could look at them, and at
that point in time there were over eight or eight
hundred of them submitted. Long story short. Then we all
had to go through interviews based on these ear marks,
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and there was no way that you could get any
pork or any special monies unless you had gone through
this process first applied, then go through the interview, and
then allowed it to be evaluated. But the exciting thing
is is that this is going to be put into
our standards for making budgets into the future. You'll see
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a bill coming up in the future that will focus
just on this idea of transparency of earmarks. Going on
down the page, we have reduced the overall size of
state government. Since Governor Whittmer came into office. Our state
government has grown by approximately forty three percent. Last year,
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our budget was approximately eighty three billion. This year it's
gone down to less than or our right balanced around
eighty one billion. But we do have plans in place
that can continue to reduce that budget. There was lots
of talk about what's going to happen with schools. We
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have put for a record additional four hundred and forty
two dollars more per student, with the foundation allowance being
ten thousand and fifty dollars per student. And you know
this has not gone gone up significantly in the last
(10:19):
couple of years. But included in this are the categoricals
for transportation and other special programs that the schools like
to see in the budget.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Red Cholseph Fox with us right now and going through
some of these, uh, some of these big pieces of
the budget. We heard a lot of back and forth
on this what did it take to get to get
this done? Because I know that you all in the
House this this this was done a while ago, working
together to make sure that it was passed. Obviously, the
(10:53):
Senate had to come together on this. It's very similar
to what we're watching play out now at the federal level.
Can you walk us through what that process was like?
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Yeah, good question. Really, we had a school budget done
already back in June, and you know, it then went
to the Senate for them to look at and didn't
get touched until during the last couple of weeks. We
put forth our total budget they call it the omnibus
(11:26):
budget in early September, but again laid on the desks
in the Senate, and so it was the process of
going through and figuring out number one where the Dems
wanted to add and our governor wanted to add more taxes. Well,
(11:47):
we said, okay, so why don't we put it on marijuana.
And we've seen more than one protest about this at
the Capitol, but it was decided, and this was a
bipartisan decision, that we would tax marijuana at twenty four
percent wholesale and that boosted our income. We also took
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a look at every place where like I mentioned already
with the ghost jobs, any other places where we could
drag back funds and not misspend them. For example, we
closed down as part of this budget, we've closed down
the sore account. So ar that's strategic. Now this is
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upgraating fund.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, this is big one, and I know you've been
right in the middle of it. But like some of
these projects like Ghoshen, et cetera, this is Explain what
the sore fund is so that people under This is
kind of like the corporate welfare stuff that's been happening
behind the scenes and making things really bad for folks.
Explain what that is and why that's so important here.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, it's good you use the word corp welfare because
that's exactly what the sore fund does. Is it's a
pool of money that has grown, and it's grown into
a spot where where it's the governor that makes decisions
about how it can be spent. And like you mentioned already,
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some of that money has been spent in places that
the people of Michigan that we the people. It's been
spent where we would not want to spend it. And
for example, Goshen, I think that again, hats off to
those grassroots people in that big Rapids area who fought
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against Goshen and to all practical purposes. Goshen is now
dead and the Sore Fund is soon going to be
buried along with it.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I think that a lot of folks that will be
celebrating that, and especially once they start to understand the
significance of that some of these real like sort of
scam projects that they were trying to get past. It's
it's been a real, a real problem. H Hang on
one second, folks, because Rep. Joseph Fox is with us
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right now. He's running for senate here in Michigan. We've
been talking about the budget this morning, and I want
to continue talking with him, but he's running for senate.
I want to give him a chance to make that
pitch and also to let you know where you can
find out more as we continue our conversation, We've got
a break for brief moment. Just get us up to
speed on the latest in the headlines from the Midwesterner.
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We'll do just that and more, But please join us
if you're able and rise for our national anthem.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Here are your headlines from the Midwesterner this Monday, October
sixth time Robin Poffman, it's a Midwesterner. Dot News original story.
The Michigan Legislature approves an eighty one billion dollar budget.
House Speaker Republican Matt Hall saying we cut over two
thousand ghost jobs and we didn't lay off one worker.
The budget deliverers targeted tax relief by ending state taxes
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on tips, overtime pay, and Social Security income. This change
affecting more than five hundred thousand residents here in Michigan.
The ACLU suing Ice to demand release hearings for illegal
immigrant Michigan residents. Eight residents are being represented by the
ACLU while they entered the US without authorization or documentation,
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some as long as twenty five years ago. And President
Trump celebrating the Navy's two hundred and fiftieth birthday in
an event in Norfolk, Virginia, and route back to the
White House reporters asking him about the government shutdown.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
Thanking place right now, And it's all because of the Democrats.
The Democrats are causing the loss of a lot of
jobs with their it's a shutdown. It's there shutdown, not
our shutdown. It's there shutdown.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
For these stories, and more visit the Midwesterner at the
Midwesterner dot News.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Yeah, we are fired up and rolling full speed along.
Repjo Fox is running for Senate here in Michigan. In fact,
he just filled us in on some of the issues
of the budget. May get some more questions answered it,
but making the leap to the Senate tell us, lots
of folks in your neck of the woods already know
you're very familiar with you. But the Senate, it's a
(17:33):
little bit of a different district. Sure why it is
so important for you? And uh and really for your
mission here in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (17:43):
Well, yeah, I am running for the thirty third Senate district.
The current senator state senator there is retiring, so looking
to replace him. And this new district, yes, is about
three times as large as a house district. It includes
all of Noego County, all of Montcalm County, three fourths
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of Lake County, three fourths of Ionia County, ten townships,
the northern part of Kent County, and three townships in
Muskegan and one township in Ottawa. So it's more shaped
like a boomerang and the way it goes. But yes,
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I am continuing with my focus on faith, family and freedom.
And also I include another F farming. What I often
say is if you hear the letter F, think fox.
So you know I am a person of of you know,
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having been married for over forty years, I'm having a
family of four kids. I now have number fourteen grandchild
on the way. I'll just hear all the f's and family.
I'm serving on the Family and Veterans Committee along with
the Education Committee, and with my twenty five years in
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Christian education, you know, those type of things are are
being very helpful, along with being director of the Commission
on Aging here in Nuego County for a few years.
It's it's a really good thing with freedom. I am
serving on in particular the Election Integrity Committee, and I
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would say to people that if you want to bring
yourself get yourself updated, go to the Michigan State House
of Representatives archives and look at all the testimony we've had.
We currently have our Secretary of State in a court case.
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We are joining up with what the federal is doing
with a desire to be transparent about our qualified BOK
voter file. And again and again we've heard testimony on that.
So fighting for our freedom that's found in voting. And finally,
the thing I always like to say is, I'm a patriot,
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not a politician. Politicians are most concerned about the next election.
They're very willing to say what they think you want
to hear. They're even very willing to change their addresses
to get into a place where they think they can
be better elected. But long story short, I'm a patriot,
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and patriots, I believe, are concerned about the next generation.
And for me, the passage that the Lord has given
me for this run is Psalm seventy one eighteen. And
I always like to make sure that my gray hair shows.
And I'm talking about this because the verse begins with
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even when I am old and gray, do not forsake me,
Oh God, till I declare your power to the next generation,
your might to all who are to come. And this
is the calling that I believe the Lord is late
in my life. In this thirty third Senate District race.
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It's not for my glory, It's for the Lord's glory.
And I want to declare his power, his might to
the next generation and to join Charlie Kirk, to join
President Trump, to join other patriots in fighting for faith
and family and freedom. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Stay robed. Joe Fox run I first Senate. If you
want to find out more, vote Joseph Fox dot com.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We appreciate it, and I do have it coming up,
just so you know, meet and greet on the fourteenth.
They're in Grand Rapids at Kent County GOP headquarters. I'm
sure you can go to their website. So it's Tuesday,
October fourteenth, six to eight pm. And then I have
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also a campaign kickoff at ant Bell's Kitchen, which is
just south of Bostwick Lake there in northern Kent County,
and that's six to eight on Thursday the sixteenth. And
in both those situations we're also going to be remembering
Charlie Kirk's birthday. I know we have a special cake
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especially at that gathering on the sixteenth. They're south of
Bostwick Lake, east of Rockford, so I hope that people
can come and join in.
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our conversations here with folks who are making big moves
and running in two. I got to tell you, probably
one of the biggest years we're going to find out.
And twenty four was huge for Michigan, but for this
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or for the for the country, but for the state
of Michigan. Twenty six I think is going to be
equally as big in studio with us right now as
Eaton County Prosecutor Doug Lloyd, and he's running for attorney general.
So I appreciate you being here with us today.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
In studio with you.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
Absolutely, you got quite a track record yourself, but you're
looking at the things that need to be done here
in the state. Why there's been so much conversation back
and forth about where we need to go to get
things back on track. What's your sense of what needs
to happen and what matters most for this particular position.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Well, for this position, it really comes down to just leadership.
I've looked at the last six years with the Attorney
General and we've seen a lot of political activism. You know,
the Attorney general is doing things that she likes, right,
but that's not what the Attorney general is supposed to do.
Attorney general is chief League loss are supposed to defend
the state, protect all ten million citizens' rights, and that's
(25:05):
just not happening. And so as a local county prosecutor,
I see it at the I see it at the
ground level, and it's it's not a hard concept to
believe that, you know, we can actually work within a budget,
work with the budget that the legislature gives us, and
actually bring in leadership that's going to tell the workers
there at the Attorney General's office that we're going to
stop being politicians and we're going to actually get back
(25:27):
to representing the people of the state.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
You know, And to your point, I've seen this play
out recently. We're watching it in other states right now too.
Is there a lot of legal questions that are flying
through the air. And I don't know. I just look
at things from am like a common sense approach. I'm
not an attorney. I don't know, but it does seem
like we've seen in particularly over the last several years,
(25:52):
that there is a certain as you mentioned, approach. It's
it's a rules for thee and for me kind of approach.
And I don't care what side of the isle you're
on that that didn't that didn't do well for any
of us. I don't think no.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
And what I've seen justin is that we're you know,
we have a lot of attorney generals out there, both
at the federal and the state level that are prosecuting
from a podium, and that's not what you're supposed to do.
You know, when you're actually building a case and investigating
a case, then you're supposed to review all those facts,
and ethically, you should never bring it forward until you
(26:30):
can actually put that piece of paper in front of
a judge. And so when people are getting out there
saying that, hey, I'm going to go and you know,
I'm gonna go and prosecute Trump, you know, when you
run on that is your platform for an attorney general spot,
you're basically saying that, you know, I'm biased, but I'm
going to go ahead and do it. That's not how
we're supposed to be. We're supposed to be representing all
ten million people, not just a certain few that we
(26:52):
kind of like.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
We saw that in New York specifically exactly. And it
turns out we heard throughout that entire time. No one
is above the law, right right. It turns out now
that particular individual and New York is being looked at
for some issues that she's had in her past. A
(27:14):
lot of this, I guess these people have felt like
there were no consequences to these actions, that we lived
in a world where for a lot of a lot
of folks there weren't consequences to action. I, for one,
and I know a lot of folks feel the same way,
would like to see us return to that world where
there are consequences for these actions. And by the way,
I think that would save a lot of people a
(27:35):
lot of trouble. And I think it saved a lot
of lives too well.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
And that's that's the interesting thing, right justin is that
the local people, you know, the citizens of our community,
they think about actions every day, right, we all try
to be good citizens, and the citizens who choose not
to be, well, they're subject to court. Well, why is
it that when we leave that local level and we
go up to the state of the federal level, that
seems to disappear and that from me, it makes no sense.
(28:01):
And that's where really I come in going you know what,
I have the experience of thirty years as a prosecutor.
Since twenty thirteen, I've been the elected prosecutor in Eaton County.
I understand what leadership means, and that's really what it's
going to take, is that actually somebody's got to put
their foot down, be the adult in the room and
actually say, you know what, if we can do it
(28:22):
at the county level, we can do it at the
city the township level, Well why can't it be done
at the state level.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
What are some of the toughest things that you've had
to face as a prosecutor through those years. I can
imagine it's not an easy job.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, I mean you've taken the thirty years that I've
been doing it. You know, you've got drug dealers, rapists,
you know, murderers and even corrupt politicians. I prosecuted Ama,
you know. I mean that's where I tell everybody. You know,
I've got to proven conservative track record that you can
go watch. You can go on Court TV and see
the latest murder case that I actually did nine days
(28:55):
of a murder case that involved bringing a woman back
from I mean, all the extradition issues that went with it.
Then you got just the budget issues. You know, they
just cut the Attorney General's you know budget this year
and they actually took it from one big ball line
item where they just had a slush fund and actually
broke it down to mini light light items. Your county prosecutor, well,
(29:18):
they're they're doing that every year. You know, your county clerk,
your your county treasurery, they have to live within a budget.
Why is it when we get to the state level,
we all of a sudden can't live within a budget,
but yet you make your locals do it every single year.
So these are issues that you know, I've been facing
since I was the elected prosecutor, and so it's not
(29:39):
a it's not a new concept. It really comes down
to can you just walk in day one and say
I'm gonna to actually do this, or you look at
the people and say no more, no more political lawsuits,
no more political prosecutions. We're not doing it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Doug Lloyd's with us right now. He's the Eaton County
Prosecutor's running for attorney general here in Michigan. As we
talked about some of these issues that folks are looking up,
we you know, you just sort of touched on the
law fair portion. We've kind of walked around that, but
what are some of the other issues that Michigan faces.
It may not be necessarily on the radar yet for
(30:16):
some folks who are looking maybe you see down the road.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
For me, it's really getting back to that simplistic idea
of actually just being effective for the state. You know.
I talked to people around the country and I was
talking to one oil company and they said, well, you know,
I know who your attorney general is. And I said, well,
why do you have an infrastructure here in our state?
And they're like, well, no, no, we don't actually touch
(30:43):
your state. Well then why would you know who our
attorney general is? What would be your you know, other
than just being a multinational company, right, And he was like, well,
we get threatened to be sued by your attorney general
all the time. Why you have no infrastructure in our state?
How is that lawsuit going to benefit? So for me,
it's really going to be sitting down that first day
(31:04):
and going all right, department heads, let's meet, because it's
time to actually start protecting the citizens in Michigan. And
I think we're having a lot of you know, wasted
tax dollars because we're actually taking those assistants and we're
asking them to do things that have absolutely no help
to the state. They don't help us at all. They
don't help the citizens. You know. Another big thing is that,
(31:26):
you know, as I'm traveling around the state, I was
up in the Upper Peninsula last week, and you know,
they talked about just the lack of support. They just
fell left out. No one thinks of them. And that's
one of the real things that attorney general is supposed
to do, and they used to do it. They're actually
supposed to be helping those local counties. If those local prosecutors,
you know, are those local clerks are having issues, they
(31:47):
should be able to pick up the phone and call
the Attorney General and actually get help. And it's not happening.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
These are just some of the things we'll be discussing
here in twenty twenty six. I believe in this, this
next upcoming election and beyond. But again it really kind
of I think underscores how important it is for the
state of Michigan. We see a lot of things happening
at the national level. We see a lot of promise
there from the twenty twenty four election, the results there.
(32:14):
This is this is now. I believe our moment here
in Michigan to get things back on track, and you
likely will play a big role in that.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well. I think it's important. I mean, you've had all
the governors on and they all come with their own experience,
and the people are going to decide that, but you know,
each one of them has experience and that's important, and
I think that's what you have to look at when
you're looking at you know, that down ballot, when you're
looking at the Secretary of State and the Attorney general,
do you have people who just have ideas or do
you have people who have experience who can actually turn
(32:45):
the state around. Because that's what it's going to take,
is that trifecta of jobs right there, the governor, the
Attorney General, and the Secretary of State to actually put
a hard stop to the wave Michigan that's been going
and bring it back to the way that people used
to remember it.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
I want to find out more. I know you can
go online, You've got a great website here. What's the
best way because I also know that you want to
talk to people and you're going, like you said, you
were up up in the up just a couple of
days ago. You'd like to I'm sure, shake hands and
have those conversations.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
With bele I. Do you know we're we got another
couple events here in West Michigan. We'll be in Monroe tonight.
But yeah, vote Doug Lloyd dot Com is the website
and on all the social media, Doug Lloyd Prosecutor is Facebook.
That's where you can follow all my excursions. My son
Nick and I just got back from two thousand miles
and two weeks up in the up hit now fifteen
(33:37):
counties up there, and so yeah, yeah, we're you know,
we were in Luddington yesterday and so we're getting out
because as you know, justin it's a delegate convention. You
know a lot of people don't know that. They go, hey, Doug,
I support you, I'm going to vote for you. Well,
are you a delegate? Yeah, because if you're not a delegate,
you may never get a chance to vote for me.
It's going to be two thousand people March twenty eighth
(33:57):
who are going to make that decision as too, as
to who the Attorney General and Secretary of State are
moving on. So it's important that they get out and
decide do they want experience or do they just want
great ideas? Because great ideas aren't going to get it done.
We've seen what's happened in the last six years where
people come in with their ideas hasn't been very effective
(34:18):
for those that the rest of us in Michigan.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You know. As interesting as you make that point, Doug
Lloyd here running for the Attorney General, that race, along
with the Secretary of State, does happen at the convention.
So it's a little different. But you still have to
cover all the ground, don't you have to get to
all these different places.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Well, you're going to find two thousand people, right, I mean,
there's six thousand plus delegates precinct delegates in the state
and that will be condensed down at a county convention
to two thousand people to go to the state conventions.
So yes, you need to hit eighty three counties if
you can in order to meet those delegates, and at
the same time you want to get the general public
to know who you are as well.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, it's a big race. We look forward to hearing
how it all works out, how it plays out, and
of course your role on it. Happy to have you
back in if you'd love to come back sometime and
come back on and talk about what's going on and
what you see on the ground because these are stories
and I think again a position that people don't realize
(35:16):
until it winds up in the hands of somebody like
the current Attorney General Dan and Nessel, how sideways things
can go and what's really needed to get them back
on track.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Right now, If you're not protecting the state and only
living up to the desires of yourself, then yeah, that
state's going to go sideways. And so that's exactly why
I got into the race, and justin I'd love to
be back on your show anytime you need me.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
My pleasure. Thank you, sir, Doug Lloyd here with us,
and again if you want to go online to the website,
he's got it up right now and find out vote
Doug Lloyd dot com. That's vote Doug Lloyd dot com.
Two wells there and obviously always a pleasure, Thank you, sir.
You got it back with more in just moments. Don't
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eighty one billion dollar budget. House Speaker Republican Matt Hall says,
we cut over two thousand ghost jobs and we didn't
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two hundred and fiftieth birthday at an event in Norfolk, Virginia.
He addresses the government shutdown as he speaks to the
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Speaker 1 (37:17):
Just sort of, I don't know, kind of out of
my element. If you can imagine me feeding goats walking
through the pasture there the farmland. We went to u
Schwalliers over the weekend, and of course, you know, they
got the pumpkins, and they got the apples, the apples,
cider and all of them. They got the goats, and
(37:39):
the girls love the goats, so Dad, let's go feed
the goats. So you want to go see the goats.
So of course there I was with them and do
a little bit of walking through the orchard and all
that stuff, and a little warmer than normal for this
time of year. By the way, it looks like things
are cooling off on the way. You'll have that to
look forward to. Well, I tell you it's things like that,
(38:00):
and I kind of take for granted now because well
you used to. I didn't really want to do a
lot of that walking around and of course on your feet,
your legs, your foot pain, back pain, things like that.
You know a lot of times that stuff can just
keep you well, keep you off your feet, grounded, so
to speak, and not in a good way, especially when
(38:22):
you want to be out. You've got a couple of
little girls like me, and you want to make sure
that they have the time of their life, and you
don't have a lot of time. That's where the Good
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putting off, some things that you'd like to get done. Well,
they can help very very possible, like they help me.
Walk in today to the Good Feed Store on twenty
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Come and experience a good feet feeling for yourself at
the Good Feet Store. Oh and by the way, good
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fight cancer. Love to see you out there, and again
I think it is noon to til. I'll get you
all the details about it and if you want to
find it, we'll make sure we post them up online
on our Facebook page. Again thanks to the Good Feed Store.
All right, I've got couple of things that I got
to make sure we get to coming up in the
after show. This is the show after the show. If
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the podcast every single day. So what are we talking
about today? Well, the Trump card is coming, but there
(39:46):
is also something that happened over the weekend that you've
got to hear. There is troubling evidence police radio proving
the Chicago police told not to help Ice agents when
they were in trouble. Stand down essentially was the order
that was given. We're gonna get into that. What I
think is the most dangerous piece of this and more
(40:06):
as we see things sort of uh well, are kind
of breaking loose and we got to keep an eye
on this. I'm gonna tell you why coming up a
little bit later on in the after show. That's the
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Thanks to our guest today, Rep. Joseph Fox aed Eton
County Prosecutor Doug Lloyd, both running for office. Joseph Fox
is Senate here in the thirty third district and Doug
Lloyd wants to be your next Attorney General. Okay, okay,
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