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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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We're talking about what matters most to you when West
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Live with Justin Barklay on Wood Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Wow, I want to ride in today. Roads are still
at dice Eat. We'll have the latest on that in minutes,
and of course any updates on the whether you might
need whether you're going to or from or wherever it is,
it's your headed, maybe even hunkered down, you'll still want
to know today the latest details coming up As we

(00:48):
kick things off today to Tech Tuesday, we're gonna talk AI.
There's some conversation that you're gonna want to hear on
that front, uh, but even more so news you won't
want to make.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
News, weather and traffic. His stories. In the day, we
were talking about what matters most in West Michigan and beyond.
This is the Big three.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, no AI and that data center right in our
own backyard.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
The latest on what they wanted to do at Lull
last night hit a little bit of a roadblock, money
for farmers and more in our Big three Power today
by our good friends at Heartland Home Mortgage, Dave Galloway
and the team.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Ready to help you.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
We know we got to fed great drop, possibly coming
another one in this week. How's that gonna shake things
up even more for the mortgage industry? Is you know
things get cheaper your ability to buy a home. We'll
talk about it simply, can get Dave on later this
week to.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Have the way in on hout of it number.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
One at anytime you want to get the news right
for the horse's mouth HHM Lending dot com.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Reach out to Dave. I know he loves to have
that conversation with you want it. It was over before
it even started.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Last night in Lowell Thatt Township Planning Commission shut down.
Probably been hearing the news this morning before it even
got started as they were over capacity. Too many people
wanting to get in and have a conversation. In fact,
let their voice be heard on this subject. It's a
big one folks getting involved in places like ghoshin of

(02:29):
all all the year you remember dream Charter Township up
North Macosta County.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
People are standing up.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
They only have one hundred and twenty one person capacity
there in the township hall. So they moved the meeting
to the high school where this will take place a
little bit later on, but leave the date for that
coming up in January.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Alnajava has stepped down. She had to.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Essentially, she said, I gotta make room in this process.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Why.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, you know she was appointed by the president US
Attorney for New Jersey after federal appeals court told her
that she she was appointed unlawfully. Well, that's just to
say the Trump appointer and the Senate is yet to
getting around to approving.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now there's hot Mike. Will have to pull this up
at some point.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
There's hot Mike audio from the President talking about the
Senate not moving on the on the appointments. And this
is a big problem. Time to bring back to philibuster.
I think some of the Republicans are the issue here.
She'll still stay on at the Department of Justice. By
the way, that she's not giving up. This isn't a defeat,
it's just frustrating in the middle of all of this.

(03:36):
She'll advise the Attorney General, but she is in the
meantime vacating that top prosecutor role while the legal fight
plays out.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
And the insanity that the president is up against.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Continuous twelve billion dollars, that's how much a president is
giving for farmers, and it all comes from tariff money.
In fact, it's of course tariff money for the farmers
that need it. Now, I've gotten some folks a number
actually of questions on this already and concerns that people say,
you know, this money is just gonna go to big

(04:10):
egg and some of those farmers that you know, they
don't need it.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
It really ought to go to the little guys.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
And that may be the case, but that's the problem
that's been along around a long long time, much longer
than President Trump.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Sylvania, where he's looking to promote work to improve the economy.

Speaker 5 (04:28):
And the newly announced financial aid package for farmers is
just one of.

Speaker 6 (04:31):
The things the president is expected to talk about.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Cbsd's correspondent Bradley Blackburn has more on the presidents than
was part.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Of an ongoing arrest.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
The economy takes center stage as President Trump heads to
Pennsylvania one day after he announced a twelve billion dollar
aid package. Performers hit hard by his tariffs and trade
war with China, God This.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Relief will provide much needed turn day to farmers as
they get this year's harvest to market and look ahead
to next year's crops.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
The White House says farmers can apply soon for payments
that will go out in late February, funded by tariffs revenue.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
A one time payment for farmers is cold comfort drive
for all the headache and anxiety and losses they've endured
because of Donald Trump's trade war.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Also Monday, the President appeared to walk back last the
same trade.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
War that's ended up giving them twenty billion in their
or twelve billion in their pocket.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
By the way, there's more to this trade war stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And I love you know, Democrats, they're the ones that
give in. They're the ones who are completely defeated under
Biden et cetera. And why the reason everything's gotten so
dang expensive. These these Democrats say they leave the farmers
out to hang.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
They really, they don't. They don't care. That's that's that's
a whole issue.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
And then you got somebody like Schumer wants to make
this case. It's making all of this is Trump's fault again.
As I mentioned earlier, this has been a problem long
time in the making. It didn't happen under Trump. But yeah,
it is time to take care of the family farms.
It is time to make sure that we're taking care
of that. Look somebody else that email me. Look, it's

(06:06):
great that we can feed the world, but we got
to make sure we're feeding the farmers and take care.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Of them as well.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
And a lot of this comes as you try and
write this ship with the America First policies that President
Trump is putting into place, these tariffs, largely, he's been
very successful in making those things happen.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
Comments indicating he'd be open to publicly releasing the footage
of a second strike on an alleged Venezuelan drug boat
from early September that killed two survivors.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
All right, that's another subject altogether. And if we're going
to shift gears, we might as well do this. Let's
talk about where he's going to make the case today
in Pennsylvania that this money going through the farmer's spike.
This tariff thing, I've got to do a walk through
on it at some point to show you where the

(06:57):
vision of this president is for where he really wants
to take us. You've heard him say he wants to
get rid of of of INCNTEX. You've heard him talk
about that, but it's it's bigger than that. You've heard
him talk about this tariff dividend check. This is kind
of a hint, a little bit of a sort of

(07:17):
a sneak peek or a peview into where he wants
to take the Sovereign Wealth Fund and all of that.
He wants to put Americans back in the driver's seat
and for some of these reasons, for some of these things,
what he really wants to do, what he wants to
see happen more than anything else, from what I am

(07:38):
you can imagine see out of all of this, is
that he wants you, am, I, to be able to
be a part of taking advantage of all. In fact,
he wants us to own to help our peace of
the country. That's the way it should be, right, America's first,
it is, it's for the people, by the people. And

(08:00):
in some ways you may be getting a big cut
of this, all of this money coming in the in
the short term. All right, let's get into this. Is
Maria Bartiromo. Earlier this morning, Maria Bartiromo, she was on
the and the Folks on Fox and Friends just moments ago,

(08:22):
making the case of where the president's going, what he's
up to, and what's.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Next fifty four yard field, Hey, that's not it. The
Oh no, we don't have.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
It, Oh stinker, that was such a good hit too.
Maybe we can find it and get it up for
you here in just a little bit, man, she made
a great case of what's happening and essentially the outlook
of where things are right now here in the in
the scheme of things, of where things are headed into

(08:53):
the new year, and what economically the picture of the
bright outlook is going to be. In fact, she made
a great case, a great case for what we really
have to look out for. And we'll probably be able
to get into some of that in tech talk this morning.
So give me, give me a moment. We'll see if
we can scare that up, uh and bring it up.

(09:14):
But essentially her warning is that AI is a problem.
AI may also solve a lot of problems, but it
may be the big issue when it comes to job
loss driving that over the next year or so, and
she's calling for something unique as a president tries to

(09:34):
tackle all of that. Coming up, folks, we'll get to
it all. Stand by for the latest don't go anywhere,
you can join us. Love to hear you on the
program this morning as well.

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Speaker 1 (10:08):
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Speaker 8 (10:14):
Here are your headlines from the Midwesterner this Tuesday, December ninth.
I'm Robin Hoffman. It's a Midwesterner dot News original story
on her ex page, Governor Whitmer incredibly bragging about her
efforts to educate children here in Michigan. This is stats
show kids lagging behind as a direct result of her
extreme COVID lockdowns.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
On ex Whitmer rights.

Speaker 8 (10:37):
I'm proud of all we've gotten done to continue making
Michigan the best state to get an education. The Democrat
governor goes on to say, let's keep building a bright
future for our kids and helping our fellow Michiganders on
their education journey. In Houghton County, Michigan, a vote on
a resolution declaring only two sexes, male and female. The

(10:58):
resolution ends with a call to other counties and the
state of Michigan to recognize the existence of only males
and females. For these stories and more, visit the Midwesterner
at the Midwesterner dot news.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Coming up with tech talk today, AI Digital ID coming
to the US.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
It may begin in a lass.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
According to some of the reports that we've seen ice
block app maker suing for free speech in foreign bought networks.
The latest that you have to be aware of will
explain those stories.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
And more this morning. Jump on with us.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
You can at any time at six one, six, seven, seven,
four twenty four, jumping up on the first in on
the lines this morning.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
We appreciate you calling Tim and Fruitport.

Speaker 7 (11:45):
Good morning, Hey, justin good morning. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
Fantastic, sir.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
So, I've been trailing all up and down Michigan speaking
talk with all Social Republicans and you say it best.
We we like to shoot ourselves in the foot. We
have a hard time getting along. I really think that
the only way to stave of our state in twenty
six is that we start coming together, we start uniting,
We start cring our own coalitions for their own Republican
candidates with Trump values and push to get them across

(12:13):
the finish line at twenty six.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
What do you see being a solution? How do you
make that work?

Speaker 7 (12:23):
The solution simple. We need to get back to our
roots of faith, family, and freedom. We need to have
the Constitution as our foundations, and we need to put
God back into conversations. And if we pick Republican candidates
with those values, with the Trump values that put people
before politics, then we're going to win up and down
the up and down the board red. But we all
got to pick our teams, we got to pick our coalitions.

(12:44):
We got to build them up. Shut up our obligation,
our duty to get them across the finish line. The
future of Michigan is in our hands.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Oh I agree, and listen, fantasm. I'm just going to play.
I'm going to play a member of somebody in my chat.
It's because I'll say the same thing and then somebody
will come up with this and they'll say, and I
think it's I think it's legitimate because these people have
been through a lot. Okay, well, how do we know
because this is the vetting process, right, how do we

(13:14):
know that the people that you're you're talking about, right?
How do we vet these folks that are going to
run to make sure they are who they say they
are and they'll do what they say they're going to
do and they don't tuck talent and run at some
point like we've seen lately.

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Well, we needed we need to do a resource. We
need to go look at the news, do it yourself.
Meet the candidates. You know, there's lots of events. I'm
a former candident myself. I ran I was running Protect
your Students recently. Uh, but we we got to meet
these candidates, like I've met every candidate running for you

(13:47):
know on the Republican side this year, and we got
a lot of great people. But if you meet them
and you start talking with them, and you it's easy
to vet them. When when you're talking to them, when
you go to these events, when you to support them, what.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Are you looking for when you talk to them? I
think that's a good question, and I agree. I think
you do need to talk to people. You need to
shake a hand. I think you can get a lot
from having conversations like that. But what are you looking
for personally?

Speaker 7 (14:13):
Me personally, what I look for is is politicians. They
say a lot of stuff. They make a lot of promises, right,
but promises are like IOUs. You can't count on those promises.
You can't count their policies if you count on their character.
So when you talk to somebody, you shake their hand,
you talk to them. Are they listening to you or
they think about their next talking point? When you shake

(14:33):
that that politicians' hand and you talk to them, I
listened to your issues, your values, your concerns, or they
think about what they're going to say next, or are
they just moving on as quickly as they can. If
they're putting people before politics instead of think about their
own talking points, they're listen to your issues, your concerns,
then they're putting you first. They're putting Michigan its first.

(14:54):
And that's how that's where it starts, right and we
go from there and we just build on start building
that relationship with our politics.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Tam, great, call this what I appreciate you calling in.
Thank you for the heads up, thank you for making
that point. Twenty six You and I agree on this.
This is for sure twenty six very important year, and
we must be involved and we've got to come together.
It's this no more critical time, that's for sure.

Speaker 7 (15:21):
If Eastwis picks three politicians with Trump values and we
work our butt off for them, we're gonna win. We
gotta pick three. We got to start our teams.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
Tam and Fruitport. Thank you, my friend, God bless you.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Brother, Thank you, sir, God bless you.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Got it.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
In uh Texas, they're definitely not talking Trump values. They're
not even talking Texas values. Jasmine Crockett has announced her
run for Senate.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Lapp's kind of pulled a chair out of the circle.
For Democrats.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
Cole Sullivan has the latest right, the highest profile announcement
came last.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
So I just want to be clear, fall of hate
us in the back.

Speaker 8 (15:57):
Listen up, real loud. We gonna get this thing done.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett will run against State Rep. James tallerco
for Senate in the March Democratic primary.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
For all for all the haters. By the way, there all.

Speaker 9 (16:09):
The moving and shaking Monday really started when Texas Republicans
redrew maps to make more GOP friendly districts Congresswoman Julie
Johnson's blue District thirty two is set to turn red,
now stretching into East Texas. She's now running in District
thirty three, currently represented by Democratic Mark vs who just
announced he'll run for Terrant County Judge instead, leaving Johnson

(16:32):
competing with Democrat Colin Allrett.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
And he's hopscotching around to try to find something to run.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
In Texas politics heating up there.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Redrawing those days, by the way, they're going to get
into the same They're going to get into the same
issues in Indiana as well. They've got the redistricting done there.
California went first, and you've seen all the rest of
them now have to come out and sort of make
their make their moves. I think you'll probably even see
it from what I understand in Florida as well. There'll
be some other places where they'll make some of these

(17:00):
adjustments and moves to try to.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
If they can anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Sort of rearrange the table for twenty twenty six to
help help Trump. Now listen to this because I got
more from Trump. But here's the actual Jasmine Crockett announcement,
which is one of the strangest I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
How about this new one? They have their new star, Crockett.
How about her? This is her commercial. By the way,
I know you're hearing it.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
If you're watching the behind the scens livestream, you can
see there's a video of her and just by herself
in all black. She's looking like she's listening to what
is being said here. And this is the president. She's
a new star of the Democratic Party, Jasmine Caracas.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
They're in big trouble.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
But you have this woman Crockett. She's a very low
IQ person.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
I watched her speak the other day. She's definitely a
low IQ person. This is an ad for her. Crocket.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
Oh man, oh man.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
She bought the airtime to run this ad.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Is a very low IT person.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Can you imagine? This is incredible?

Speaker 5 (18:10):
Somebody said the other day she's one of the leaders.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
Of the party. I said, you gotta be kidding morning.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Crocket's gonna bring them big.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
And she smiles, nods her head, and then it's her
her name on the screen, Crockett for us, Senate.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
I have never now. The only thing I can tell you.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Is that this is a sort of a ploy to
get people to unite behind her and against press, because
that's the only thing I can figure out. You're making
announcement running for senate, why you're running against the press,
is that it is that the announcement boy the Democrats
coming morning. Well, I'm here for Crocket running for Senate.

(18:55):
It gonna put a big spot tomorrow morning and take
the rest of the party and the loon wing, as
Senator Kennedy likes to call it back. After this, Well,
come in, It's West Michigan Live. We get into the
AI Talk all the dawning up tomorrow morning on West
and our Tech Talks segment next West Michigan Live.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Coming up tomorrow morning. Coming up later this morning.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I'm with.

Speaker 6 (19:29):
Good Morning News.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Morning on West Michigan's Morning News Quick coming up later
this morning, coming up later this morning, Coming up later.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
This twenty twenty six updates.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
The President says he's going to campaign for the midterms
like his name was on the ticket.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
That could change a thing or two.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
We'll explain what was said and how that all could
shake out, coming up in our conversation here this morning.
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Speaker 3 (21:15):
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Speaker 2 (21:16):
A little bit of a mixed bag in the markets
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(21:38):
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Speaker 3 (22:24):
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Speaker 4 (22:27):
Good morning justin.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
So, we got lots on the table today and like
I said, some of this is going to be driven
just like we do every week by AI.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
Today the conversation.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
I saw this over on Drodge and wanted to dive
in with you because it's something that I think a
lot of people are looking at when it comes to
what is up ahead AI and the drive for digital
ID Alaska right now the state plotting an AI driven
digital ID identity payments and biometric data. Now I hear that, probably,

(23:05):
like most people listening to this program, go oh no,
here we go. The state's new system could turn bureaucracy
into automation and consent into a checkbox. No one really
controls the piece here from reclaimthanet dot org obviously a
group that is not in favor of this.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
But this isn't. This isn't.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
This is an idea and one that people have been
watching for a long time because we have a situation
where in the United States, particularly but all throughout we've
already seen the UK they want to do this too.
There's a push for digital id et cetera. Because we
got people coming in from all over the world. A
lot of them are here. We don't even know who's
here and what they're doing here and why they're here,
and I mean all of these things. The UK has

(23:50):
got a very similar Now it's not illegal immigration, but
it's certainly immigration there where they're dealing with it and
thinking about rolling this out as well, and rightfully, so
you could see how this has got some folks concerned.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Yeah, justin You've got to look at these things from
a practical standpoint first, to understand some of the average
jos who are part of the governments the city slash
federal state governments are looking this from a practical standpoint.
These government agencies, think of the state of Alaska have
hundreds of services that they provide their citizens, between healthcare, unemployment, insurance, taxes.

(24:28):
I mean, there's a whole list of things that the
state provides. And you've got to remember in Alaska especially,
people are spread out all over the place. So think
of going to get a document notarized, how far you
got to go. Maybe some places that you live and
think of the cost associated with that, the time and hassle.
So from a practical standpoint, they're saying, hey, if we

(24:49):
have this new fangled computer system that can just merge
all these services into one have a very simple system
of ID, and it sounds all really good on paper,
where it's just going to simply everything. But when we
take a step back, justin it's it's later when we
realize the consequences of these systems. We realize what they
do later that how easy is it to hack your

(25:11):
identity when everything is in one house, one place and
all they have to do is hack one single sign
in to vote for you, to sell your house, to
apply a loan. I mean ideas, theft is already rampant
and they still have to jump through some hoops with
different banks or different entities organizations to hack you. Think
about if they have to hack one log in to

(25:32):
your ID system and boom, they have access to everything,
They can download everything, and they can do anything they
want on your behalf. That just puts us at a
very vulnerable position.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Here's the story AI Digital ID out of Alaska. They're
moving ahead with the digital AI Power Digital Ideas system
that would link residence identities directly the payments, benefits, and
government services as a trench. Just mentioned the plan out
line in state documents obtained by Reclaim. The net describes
a single digital credential tied to biometric verification and real

(26:08):
time identity checks. Privacy groups are already wanting it could
create a centralized database tracking everything from financial transactions to
daily activity. State officials say it's about efficiency and fraud prevention,
but as you just mentioned, it might be the vehicle
to actually drive fraud. Critics are arguing here in Alaska

(26:33):
testing the kind of government managed digitalizing that many fear
will spread nationwide.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
It is. It's not a like I said, it's not
an unreasonable idea thought to consider.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
I think it's going to be a tough sell. But
one of the ways that they'll use to sell this
is the immigration issue here in America, UK and some
of the other places where they're going to say, look,
how do you track all these people?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
We got to give everybody an ID.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
You'll have to buy or sell using this ID, and
if you don't have one, you're here illegally and which
means you can't buy or sell.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
You're just going to have to self deport. That's how
they'll sell it.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Yeah, justin that is very uncharted territory. I would never
want to be an early adopter on this new digital
ID system. These things are in the digital world. When
we hear of hacks, and we hear of all the
issues related to government and identity theft and information being stolen,
I would not want my state to be the first
person I would want to see this digital system perfected.

(27:33):
I would want to see it not in the hands
of any government third party contractors. There's so many things
that could go wrong here. Justin, that's way too much
sensitive data under one roof.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
The story will continue to develop.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
The biggest question on all that on this tech stuff,
because I think we've kind of gotten to a point
now where we can do things. We can sure do
a lot of things, but not everything that we can
do we'll want to do, if you know what I mean.
And certainly those things will make us more efficient, but well,
they also bring other challenges and consequences, like everything does

(28:06):
right alongside with it. I think that's a big question
and one that deserves to be answered. It's like AI
when you're looking at the automated driving like trucks out.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
On the road.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
They say, you know, we may need because we got
a lot of these immigrants that don't speak English. They
should be you're driving these trucks, making things so dangerous,
killing people out on the roads. Maybe it's time that
we push the AI automatic trucks. They'll be safer than
actual people driving the trucks. And see, folks, that'll be
the way.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
They say.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's always how this type of thing works. You got
to give people some sort of reason to make that move. Trent,
That's that's my fear. Anyway, I see that on the horizon.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
Justin one quick thought about that all, let's just say
all the digital ID system, the digital E computer ranch,
let's say everything is just works flawless, and there's no
issues with it. What happens when the Internet dies? Justin
what happens if there's a solar flare, never mind some
foreign attack or somebody accidentally cuts a cable or whatever
things happened. Justin our internet grid is not strong enough

(29:16):
and robust enough yet to handle this.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
All.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
That's assuming that there's no issues with the software, the program,
the autonomous vehicles, whatever, is just simply flawless. Even our
Internet grid needs work, So this technology is a little
bit too new because our grid needs to support that
as well. A lot of work needs be done yet
before these things actually get put into place in real.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Life, Jason says, I don't want a digital ID. By
the way it says, sounds more like a leash than
a freedom pass. It's probably the best way to put it. Jason,
very good point. All right, all over to AI. I
got this email earlier from Dino was talking about Trump's
move to issue an executive order that would create a

(29:56):
national AI rule, and essentially what this would do. What
he wants to do is yet rend of cut regulation
essentially across the board throughout the entire country and make
one sort of universal way of doing things instead of
having fifty states chime in and do it their own way.

(30:17):
Now you may look at the Constitution and say, well,
the states ought to be able to do this, They
ought to be able to make these rules and decide
what's going to happen in each of their states. But
the President and I think others would make the case
that because of national security and really the survival of
the nation, you got to have the ability to move

(30:39):
forward with record speed in order to innovate and be
at the forefront of the say I think, because what
they'll say is, you know, AI is one thing, us
having control of it is another, and China is another.
The last thing you want is a country like China
that controls this technology. That's the case they'll make. Where

(31:02):
do you stand on this trent? And obviously this is
a big subject that continues to be talked about one
way or the other. We'll get news on this, I'm
sure in the next couple of days.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Yeah, Justin.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
What you just described is just the most incredibly difficult
thing to deal with. Right If China can use AI
forever every national security interest to have the best planes,
the best weapons, the west, best hacking, the best security protection,
the best of everything. If AI truly creates that for
China or Russia or any other country for that matter,

(31:35):
they dominate the world, Justine. So there is severe national
security consequences if that happens. On the other hand, look
in the in the past, when our government made nuclear bombs,
when when during the Bush administration, you know, wiretapping or
other things, many people supported that, and then years later
you look at the dangers from those decisions to fall

(31:58):
out from those decisions along term implications. This is an
impossible balance for our leaders in our country. In the
States are obviously involved in the same thing with similar
concerns justin it's so hard to figure out. We need
leaders who are strong that can work through these things,
and somehow they have to connect to the individuals. I
don't care what political party or what side. If they

(32:20):
can't connect with us individual people and generate legitimate trust
and understand knowledge and information sharing and what they're doing,
I think nobody's going to be happy. Everybody's going to
be afraid, and everybody's going to fight each other in
the States and Feds have to get along in this
AI stuff one way or another. They can't fight each other.

(32:40):
They're going to go into gridlock and nothing's.

Speaker 9 (32:42):
Going to happen.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, bomb line.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
I just think you need to be in the note
so you can understand what's happening behind the scenes and
make the best decisions you can for you and your family.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Always a pleasure, Trent. That's a whole conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
That little piece right there that we just sort of
skimmed over, that's a whole conversation for all the time.
It's one that you could do a whole show on
or even a series, because I think it's going to
be more important than days ahead. Knowing what to trust,
who to trust, and discernment part of that process.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Thank you, my friend, always a pleasure.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Thanks Justin, have a great day, Trent.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Can I be affordabilized sor link Mischkigan drive and stand
down Grand River Tech reach Out see if Trent can
help you back after this in just moments, but to
gain State Board of Education is added again. Vaccines on
the agenda for today at today's meeting. In fact, I
just got alert from the folks at Michigan for vaccine choice.

(33:36):
They say, love to have folks on the link to
watch live today public comments in fact, a meeting I
believe about ready to get started if it hasn't already
public comments today at one. I'll put links to that
in the stack at Justin Barclay dot com if you
want to check that out.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
In the meantime.

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