October 30, 2025 • 29 mins
From the frontlines of everyday life to the excitement of Kentucky’s growing sports scene, this week’s Kentucky Focus with Scott Fitzgerald dives into stories that are touching all corners of our state. Join us!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
And welcome to Kentucky Focus. I'm Scuff fitz Jie, where
we take closer look at the issues shaping life across
the Commonwealth. This week we're talking about what it really
means to have a place to call home. Why the
conversation about housing in Kentucky runs so much deeper than
just walls in a room. Well us. If you thought
Kentucky sports scene couldn't get any bigger, think again. A
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new team is on the way, bringing, of course, big
time energy and big time opportunity to the Commonwealth. Stay
with us, we got all coming up for you. I'm
Scott Fitzgie. This is Kentucky Focus.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
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Speaker 1 (02:52):
Welcome back to Kentucky Focus. I'm Scott Fitzgerald. Housing in
Kentucky is at a breaking point and cross the state,
average home prices climbed to five times the medium house
of income, putting home ownership out of reach for many
young Kentuckians. This week, the Bluegrass Institute hosted three events
across the state in Northern Kentucky, Lexington, and in Louisville
to discuss the future of housing policy. Joining us today
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to talk about the solutions that don't rely on taxpayer
handouts is caleble Brown at the Bluegrass Institute. Caleb, thanks
for joining us, buddy.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Hey Scott, it's kind of weird for me to be
on this show, a show that I hosted.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yes you upon a time, Yes you did, my man,
and you have set the bar high for all of
us here at the Kentucky News Network, that's for sure,
my man. Well, let's get right to it, my brother, Caleb,
you and your colleagues, of course describe Kentucky's housing market
as a crisis. Can you break down what's happening right
now and why it's so urgent for policymakers to act. Well,
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so it is.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
It's urgent for policy makers to act because we are
in a situation where Kentucky could continue to languish and
not produce the kind of housing, the wide variety of
housing that people like, or we could leap to the
head of the class in a sense, that is, we
could make the rules easier for developers, for property owners,
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for and of course for renters and home buyers. To
change the rules and allow for a lot more housing production.
It's it's really that simple. So for the most part,
it's local governments that over years have been delegated a
lot of power, have been given a lot of power
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by the state to control development of housing in the area,
and in a lot of areas, they just don't want it.
And housing is sort of viewed as a net negative
as as pollution almost where people who already live in
certain neighborhoods say, well, look, we've got to buy, we've
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got to build housing. Where are we going to put it?
And that's just I think the wrong attitude, because we
really want to support young people, empty nesters, expanding families.
You know, empty nesters are sort of shrinking families in
a way, and we need to be able to support
those people and let them find the kinds of housing
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that meets their needs. And we would prefer it to
be in Kentucky than in Tennessee or Arkansas, or Indiana
or Ohio. And we're trying to help get the word
out about what reforms state lawmakers ought to make in
order to make that possible.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Caleb oo Brown joining us now he is with the
Bluegrass Institute. They held a series of forms around the
common Wealth of Kentucky talking about the housing crisis here
in our state, and Caleb, what does it mean for
young families and first time home buyers in our state?
As you mentioned, are we at risk of losing that
next generation to more affordable markets elsewhere?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (05:55):
Absolutely, the Kentucky is not producing the same housing that
are at the same level as states like Tennessee, Arkansas, Florida.
I'm naming sec school states where they're just better at
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producing housing. They've changed the rules, They've made it easier
to produce housing. And for young people trying to buy
a home now, I can remember when in two thousand
and seven when we hit at the time all time
highs for housing prices. It was almost a mania. And
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now just in the last five years since the pandemic,
we have had an even more even larger increase in
housing price in Kentucky. In Bowling Green and Lexington, these
are two housing markets that are very hot. The average
home price is now five times average household income. And
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what that means for young people just getting out of college,
getting ready to start a family, seeking employment, they're effectively
priced out of home ownership. And what that means for
those people is that they will delay marriage, they will
delay childbirth, they will potentially just seek opportunities in other states.
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And the follow on effects of that is that Kentucky
won't have the workforce to attract the kinds of business
that we want to attract. And we want Kentucky to
be a dynamic state where there's a lot of opportunity,
and if we don't have the workforce in order to
do that, those businesses are going to find those opportunities
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in other states. As our scholar Nolan Gray, who's the
real expert here on the housing issue, he likes to
say homes are where jobs go to sleep at night,
and it's a good way to think about the issue
of housing Kentucky. With the leadership of the General Assembly
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and Governor Basher, we've seen a huge job announcements across
the state. But the next logical question is where are
those people going to live? And in a lot of
local areas we see almost an utter rejection of the
construction of new housing. And for anyone who's interested, we're
about to put out our menu of options for lawmakers,
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which is a large list of reforms that will get
housing production moving. You go to Bluegrass Institute dot org.
Get on our mailing list and I'll make sure you
get a copy.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Of that outstanding Caleb O. Brown joining us now at
the Bluegrass Institute. We're talking about the housing crisis. Spending
a few good minutes with Caleb, as you can see,
clearly an issue here in the Commonwealth and we are
falling way behind those around And that was going to
be my next question to you, Caleb. So I'm not
going to steal your thunder. I'm going to let folks
get in touch with you and those will be the
next practical steps for our policymakers. Yea, beyond the individuals
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you mentioned how this housing shortfall effects Kentucky. You've held
three events around the commonwealth. What are some of the
things you're hearing from folks around the state who are
there in the trenches, who are on the front lines.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
So the people on the front lines. It's interesting because
it seems like they're on opposite sides of the front lines,
but they're really on the same side. One is developers,
people who would love to build more housing and are
frustrated by local governments telling them no. They have their
plans all set up, they've got their permits submitted, they
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go to the planning and zoning board and boom, a
bunch of neighbors or people in the area show up
at the zoning meeting and they say no, no, no,
we can't have this project, we can't have that project.
They raise their voices, and you know, politicians are rational.
They respond to a bunch of angry people in a
room yelling at them, and so oftentimes these p are
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just abandoned and the developers are frustrated. I think a
lot of the local officials who are charged with making
choices about whether or not to allow projects, I think
they're frustrated. That's what I'm hearing at these events that
we're hosting. And I think what we need to do
is recognize that when you own a piece of property,
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whether you're a developer or a homeowner. You know a
developer who wants to build a subdivision, or you're a
developer who wants to build apartments, or you're developer who
wants to build an ADU, an accessory dwelling unit on
a piece of property that already has a homeowner living there.
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We need to understand that property rights matter, that when
you own a piece of property. You get to do
certain things with it, no matter what your neighbors think
about it. And you know, as long as you're not
creating an actual nuisance, you should be allowed to do that.
And so I think part of the solution here is
to reinvigorate property rights. Tell property owners, hey, just because
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you own this property, that means you get to do
these sorts of things. You get to help your fellow
man have a place to live if you so choose.
And so there are a lot of people frustrated on
every side of this. Certainly young people are some of
the most frustrated because I think a lot of the
previous generations they got their homes, they got their homes
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for in some cases, the equivalent of one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars for a starter home. That's in today's dollars.
But you know, I can't imagine a young person walking
out of school and being able to find a home
that will stand up, that will stay up for one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And so it's a real challenge.
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It will take some bravery from lawmakers to get a
lot of these reforms passed. Allowing homeowners to build ADUs,
allowing developers to build more apartments, allowing lots to contain
up to four units via the building code, allowing people
to buy smaller lots, telling localities that they can't require
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a whole bunch of off street parking, which eats up
a lot of space that could be devoted to more housing.
It's just a matter of a lot of small reforms
that add up to a pretty big impact and a
transformational economic improvement in Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Always enjoy spending time with the good folks from the
Bluegrass Institute. Calebo Brown is joining us now is the
how the series of forms around this state this week
to talk about the housing crisis in Kentucky. In final
question for you, Caleb, if Kentucky implements these reforms, what
does a healthier housing market look like five years from now?
Speaker 7 (12:52):
A healthier housing market is one in which we see
stabilizing prices of homes declining prices of homes. There are
competitor cities in North Carolina and Florida, in Texas that
after implementing these substantial reforms, have seen double digit percentage
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decreases in rent and the price of homes, and Kentucky
can get there. We can make this a more affordable
place for our young people to stay. We can encourage
the kinds of interesting development that we like to see
around the state. We can revitalize small downtowns by allowing
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housing over commercial developments in small towns across the commonwealth.
It's a very exciting possibility, but it will require bravery.
It will require lawmakers to make a decision that this
is a priority. And the big upside here that I
haven't mentioned, and I'm remiss in not mentioning it, is
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that we don't have to This doesn't punish taxpayers at all.
In fact, this has the possibility of lowering property taxes
for people who already live in these same neighborhoods in
these same cities. When you're sharing the cost of shared
infrastructure with a few more people, there's no reason for
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your property taxes to go up. So the housing markets
could be a lot more dynamic. We could see a
lot more young people starting families and deciding to put
down roots here in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. And that's
really what I want to see. And anybody who goes
to Bluegrass Institute dot org you can read more about it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Caleble Brown Bluegrass Institute one of my favorite places to go. Buddy,
I appreciate you making time for us. Great to catch
up with you again. As Caleb mentioned, former host of
this very show has moved on to bigger and brighter
things now. Buddy, it's great to see again. Great to
hear your voice again, my friend, and let's not be strangers.
Thank you, Scott, I appreciate it again. I thank you
to Caleble Brown with the Bluegrass Insitude for helping us
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better understand Kentucky's housing challenges and how they affect every
one of us policy to paycheck. You can learn more
about their ongoing work at Bluegrass Institute dot org. When
we come back, we'll shift gears from home foundations to
something a little more competitive on the field. Kentucky sports
landscape is changing once again. We'll hear how this latest
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edition could reshape those here in the Commonwealth. We'll talk
about that and much more coming up. I'm Scott Fitzgerald.
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Welcome back to Kentucky polkus S. I'm Scott Fitzgerald. Well,
Kentucky is getting a new professional football team, the Louisville
Kings UFL co owner Mike Ropole announcing the expansion at
Lynn Family Stadium, revealing that out of thirty one cities
applying for a team, Only Louisville, Columbus, and Orlando were selected.
With a strong sports culture, top notch stadium, and passionate
fan base, the Commonwealth is now officially part of the
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spring football landscape. Appearing on NewsRadio eight forty WHS with
Terry Miners, was Steve Macy, vice president of the Louisville Kings,
to talk about why the city was chosen, what fans
can expect, and Holly King's planned to make spring football
success here in the Commonwealth. One of the questions Terry
put to him, with a great stadium already in place
with Lynn Family Stadium, why was Louisville such a good choice.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
One of the nice things about Micropoli coming in as
he asked us to re examine everything we were doing.
So three franchises went away, including the one I was
running in Memphis. It was Memphis, San Antonio, and Detroit.
All of them had sixty thousand sea plus stadiums that
ten to fifteen thousand people, and they look terrible. And
it's not a bad crowd when you compare it to
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the NBA, WNBA, NHL, not quite Major League Baseball, but
the other spring sports of fifteen thousand person crowds, A
great crowd is going to look full. And so that's
what he looked at, was, hey, let's look at the
soccer stadiums. DC was doing that already. So the DC
defenders have been playing in in the field. There, that's
a soccer stadium, and it looks full, it sounds full,
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there's great energy. There's nothing worse than a big play happen.
You have to run twenty feet to give somebody a
high five, right, I mean. And so that's one of
the things we talked about, is how do we get
that fan engagement. WHI becomes the thing to do when
you have fun when you're there, And I think that
the size of the stadium has to fit our crowd size,
and I think it's I think it's been great again.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Steve Macy joining news ready to eight forty Whs and
Terry Miners talking about Louisville and Kentucky's newest professional football team,
the Louisville Kings, and while with Great City, what are
some of the things they have in mind when it
comes to a fan experience.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
There's some great seats and we're gonna do some fun
things with I think We're going to put some barstool
sized chairs in the first row in that north end
zone and kind of make those a premium spot to
be right there on the action. I'm really excited to
see how the supporter section works in the south end zone.
With football, you know, it's a little bit longer game
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to be standing up that long. But I think that group.
We've already had several people reach out to us to say,
what are we gonna call ourselves? How are we going
to organize this? Can we be part of it? But
I love all of those things. So we've got an
already group of fifteen one hundred it says between fifteen
one hundred that want to be that supporter group for
our football games. And that's you know, it's music to
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my ears.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
That'll be fun and what will be the makeup of
the team, the product everybody's coming to see.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Almost ninety percent of the guys that were on our
rosters have been somehow affiliated with an NFL team, whether
they were drafted, they were on a practice squad, they
were in training camp. So it's a it's a super
high level when you compare that to baseball and basket
by which we're about five percent. It's these guys have
all kind of had a taste of it. Some of
them just were wrong in the wrong camp. You know,
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a guy that was a great wide receiver in college
goes to an NFL camp and all six receivers in
NFL camp stay healthy. He never really gets a shot
and he was just in the wrong camp. We have
a lot of that. The play is just absolutely phenomenal.
It's high end. There's over three hundred guys that have
been in NFL rosters now that are in our league
that have made the rosters. So someone has asked me
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to describe it's not min only football because it's spring football,
because they're not affiliated with those teams. It's not that same.
Only five percent of the guys are making it. It's
phenomenal football at a very very high level.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Against Steve Macy joining Terry Miners on news radio eight
forty whas talking about Lee Louisville King's Kentucky's newest professional
football team. And of course, now that we know what
the team's going to look like, they've got to be
coached by somebody. So will they be familiar names to fans?
Speaker 10 (20:55):
So, as a marketer at heart, I'm hoping that it's
somebody that we know, and it's somebody that's local and
has a lot of local panas. I don't know who
it's going to be yet. I had heard a name,
but you know, and it didn't work out. You know.
The idea here is to find someone that can be
the face because the players are going to come and
go over time.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
The goal is that we provide them the avenue to
do whatever they want to do in their life, whether
it's football or something else that we're trying to build
young men, kind of like in the college game, but
this is a little bit on the higher level. And
what you will find as you guys interact with the
players and the coaches, they're so appreciative to be able
to play professional football that they've been humbled in some way,
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shape or form. It's been my favorite level of athlete
to work with. They're so excited and hungry to be
part of anything it has to do with football.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And of course you can't talk about football without talking
about tailgating, right, really be part of the game day experience.
Speaker 10 (21:48):
One of the neat things about the FC team here
is and there's such a great tailgating space up on
top of the hill. It's incredible what that tailgating atmosphere is.
And we're hoping we just go check it. Let's play
it right up there. We're gonna run right up there
and we're gonna have a big tail get up there.
We'll have parties, we'll have inflatables, we'll.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do all the things.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
And then some of the open space for fans. If
you haven't been to a soccer match, the space on
that north end zone right by the river where it's
all in.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's all enclosed.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
You have to show your ticket to get in, but
it's the artificial turf, and they've got a little plaque
practice soccer field for kids to run on. They've got
inflatables out there. It's a really neat place for families
to come and enjoy. And we just can't wait to
make that our home again.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Steve Macy, vice president of the Louisville Kings, Kentucky's newest
professional sports franchise, and he appeared on news radio eight
forty WHS with Terry Miners. And when it comes to games,
that's what fans want to know. How many games will
they play? And when is this season.
Speaker 10 (22:49):
The season will start at the end of March and
it'll run ten straight weeks. We have five home, five
away games, and there'll be one week of playoffs. The
top four teams will play off, and then the following week,
which is Father's Weekend, that'll be the championship game. It's
a sprint. It's twelve weeks of spring football.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
You know.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
People have asked about the ticket prices. We haven't set
them yet, but they're going to be in line with
what Low City's doing from a pricing standpoint. And well,
so we say, hey, look, the other thing we'll give
you is that you can get in for less than
hundred bucks per season take and we'll have that price point.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And of course we were asking about the make up
the team earlier. What's a roster size look like for
a team like this.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
So they have sixty guys fifty year active each week,
so ten guys are inactive and those ten guys get
a certain level pay. The fifty that are active get
a little higher pay for that week. And so it's
a small squad like the NFL. You know, there's guys
that are playing special teams and offense and defense just
to make the roster work.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And again spending a few minutes with Steve Macy, vice
president of the Louisville Kings, Kentucky's newest professional sports franchise,
that they will start playing at Louis Lynn Family Stadium.
And while he was on news radio eight forty WHS
with Terry Miners, and the question was asked, would NFL
teams take players during the season.
Speaker 10 (24:03):
They really don't during the season, so that because this
is one of their opportunities to see guys. And that's
why there's so many UFL players in XFL and USFL
before that that are playing in the NFL because they're
getting to see ten weeks of film on somebody. And
this season ends early enough that guys that have bumps
and bruises that they've got plenty of time to get
healthy before they would head to training camp if that
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was the case.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And finally, something everybody wants to know, what's the biggest
rule change between this league and say college football and
the NFL.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
So in our league, do not kick an extra point.
You either go for one, two, or three from either
the two, the five, or the ten. The new NFL
rule where you're not bringing the chains out that it's electronic,
that was ours. Those were three of the biggest things,
and now it really is just the extra point. I wish,
as more of a football purist that we would have
a kick available, but we don't, so it's no bag deal.
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So he's got to tell people how it is now
the best rule we have. We have by far the
best overtime rules. Sovery college you have the twenty five
yard line the NFL, each team gets the ball ours
is it's a best of three two point conversion. It's
more like a soccer shootout. Every single one of those
six plays matters and then it goes to a sudden
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death after that. It's the best overtime rule.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What an exciting time for Kentucky sports fans. No matter
the community you live in, professional sports will always bring
something to our state. No matter if it's in Paducah,
if it's a bowling green, if it's in Ashland, if
it's in Louisville or even Lexington. We love having professional
sports here in the Commonwealth. After the break, we'll wrap
things up with a few final thoughts and of course
look ahead to what's coming up next week. I'm Scott Fitzgerald,
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You're listening to Kentucky Focus.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
What's your favorite high school sports memory? A late inning rally,
a game winning shot, a photo finish. Maybe it's a
pep rally or a pregame ritual. Maybe it's the euphoria
of a late night bus ride home after a hard
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imagine if it never happened at all. School sports need
your help with budgets getting tighter. It's more than the
games that are on the line. It's all the traditions,
the community pride, the culture of your hometown high school,
plus all those memories that are on the line too.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
What can you do?
Speaker 4 (26:25):
It's simple, buy a ticket when you can go to
a game. Take the whole family. Let's do everything we
can to keep those cherished school sports memories alive.
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Speaker 1 (27:06):
And that'll do it. For this week's Kentucky Focus. Our
thanks again to calebo Brown from the Bluegrass Institute and
Steve Macy with the Louisville Kings, as well as Terry
Miners along with our friends at news Radio eight forty
whs for their conversation in support coming up next week.
Hard to believe, but we're flipping the calendar too. What
November that means Thanksgivings around the corner? And what if
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I told you you could enjoy some of those foods
you love the most without feeling guilty about it. And
I'm not talking about some bad diet, some crash diet,
some expert pitching us another healthy Thanksgiving. I'm talking about
real food that you can eat and ways to make
this a healthy Thanksgiving. As we all try to kill
a little bit more health conscious. We'll talk about that
and anything that changes here in the Commonwealth as well
as always, thanks for making Kentucky Focus part of your
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Welcome back to Kentucky Focus. I'm Scott Fitzgerald. Housing in
Kentucky is at a breaking point and cross the state,
average home prices climbed to five times the medium house
of income, putting home ownership out of reach for many
young Kentuckians. This week, the Bluegrass Institute hosted three events
across the state in Northern Kentucky, Lexington, and in Louisville
to discuss the future of housing policy. Joining us today
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to talk about the solutions that don't rely on taxpayer
handouts is caleble Brown at the Bluegrass Institute. Caleb, thanks
for joining us, buddy.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
Hey Scott, it's kind of weird for me to be
on this show, a show that I hosted.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yes you upon a time, Yes you did, my man,
and you have set the bar high for all of
us here at the Kentucky News Network, that's for sure,
my man. Well, let's get right to it, my brother, Caleb,
you and your colleagues, of course describe Kentucky's housing market
as a crisis. Can you break down what's happening right
now and why it's so urgent for policymakers to act. Well,
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so it is.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
It's urgent for policy makers to act because we are
in a situation where Kentucky could continue to languish and
not produce the kind of housing, the wide variety of
housing that people like, or we could leap to the
head of the class in a sense, that is, we
could make the rules easier for developers, for property owners,
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for and of course for renters and home buyers. To
change the rules and allow for a lot more housing production.
It's it's really that simple. So for the most part,
it's local governments that over years have been delegated a
lot of power, have been given a lot of power
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by the state to control development of housing in the area,
and in a lot of areas, they just don't want it.
And housing is sort of viewed as a net negative
as as pollution almost where people who already live in
certain neighborhoods say, well, look, we've got to buy, we've
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got to build housing. Where are we going to put it?
And that's just I think the wrong attitude, because we
really want to support young people, empty nesters, expanding families.
You know, empty nesters are sort of shrinking families in
a way, and we need to be able to support
those people and let them find the kinds of housing
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that meets their needs. And we would prefer it to
be in Kentucky than in Tennessee or Arkansas, or Indiana
or Ohio. And we're trying to help get the word
out about what reforms state lawmakers ought to make in
order to make that possible.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Caleb oo Brown joining us now he is with the
Bluegrass Institute. They held a series of forms around the
common Wealth of Kentucky talking about the housing crisis here
in our state, and Caleb, what does it mean for
young families and first time home buyers in our state?
As you mentioned, are we at risk of losing that
next generation to more affordable markets elsewhere?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
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Speaker 7 (05:55):
Absolutely, the Kentucky is not producing the same housing that
are at the same level as states like Tennessee, Arkansas, Florida.
I'm naming sec school states where they're just better at
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producing housing. They've changed the rules, They've made it easier
to produce housing. And for young people trying to buy
a home now, I can remember when in two thousand
and seven when we hit at the time all time
highs for housing prices. It was almost a mania. And
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now just in the last five years since the pandemic,
we have had an even more even larger increase in
housing price in Kentucky. In Bowling Green and Lexington, these
are two housing markets that are very hot. The average
home price is now five times average household income. And
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what that means for young people just getting out of college,
getting ready to start a family, seeking employment, they're effectively
priced out of home ownership. And what that means for
those people is that they will delay marriage, they will
delay childbirth, they will potentially just seek opportunities in other states.
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And the follow on effects of that is that Kentucky
won't have the workforce to attract the kinds of business
that we want to attract. And we want Kentucky to
be a dynamic state where there's a lot of opportunity,
and if we don't have the workforce in order to
do that, those businesses are going to find those opportunities
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in other states. As our scholar Nolan Gray, who's the
real expert here on the housing issue, he likes to
say homes are where jobs go to sleep at night,
and it's a good way to think about the issue
of housing Kentucky. With the leadership of the General Assembly
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and Governor Basher, we've seen a huge job announcements across
the state. But the next logical question is where are
those people going to live? And in a lot of
local areas we see almost an utter rejection of the
construction of new housing. And for anyone who's interested, we're
about to put out our menu of options for lawmakers,
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which is a large list of reforms that will get
housing production moving. You go to Bluegrass Institute dot org.
Get on our mailing list and I'll make sure you
get a copy.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Of that outstanding Caleb O. Brown joining us now at
the Bluegrass Institute. We're talking about the housing crisis. Spending
a few good minutes with Caleb, as you can see,
clearly an issue here in the Commonwealth and we are
falling way behind those around And that was going to
be my next question to you, Caleb. So I'm not
going to steal your thunder. I'm going to let folks
get in touch with you and those will be the
next practical steps for our policymakers. Yea, beyond the individuals
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you mentioned how this housing shortfall effects Kentucky. You've held
three events around the commonwealth. What are some of the
things you're hearing from folks around the state who are
there in the trenches, who are on the front lines.
Speaker 7 (09:13):
So the people on the front lines. It's interesting because
it seems like they're on opposite sides of the front lines,
but they're really on the same side. One is developers,
people who would love to build more housing and are
frustrated by local governments telling them no. They have their
plans all set up, they've got their permits submitted, they
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go to the planning and zoning board and boom, a
bunch of neighbors or people in the area show up
at the zoning meeting and they say no, no, no,
we can't have this project, we can't have that project.
They raise their voices, and you know, politicians are rational.
They respond to a bunch of angry people in a
room yelling at them, and so oftentimes these p are
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just abandoned and the developers are frustrated. I think a
lot of the local officials who are charged with making
choices about whether or not to allow projects, I think
they're frustrated. That's what I'm hearing at these events that
we're hosting. And I think what we need to do
is recognize that when you own a piece of property,
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whether you're a developer or a homeowner. You know a
developer who wants to build a subdivision, or you're a
developer who wants to build apartments, or you're developer who
wants to build an ADU, an accessory dwelling unit on
a piece of property that already has a homeowner living there.
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We need to understand that property rights matter, that when
you own a piece of property. You get to do
certain things with it, no matter what your neighbors think
about it. And you know, as long as you're not
creating an actual nuisance, you should be allowed to do that.
And so I think part of the solution here is
to reinvigorate property rights. Tell property owners, hey, just because
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you own this property, that means you get to do
these sorts of things. You get to help your fellow
man have a place to live if you so choose.
And so there are a lot of people frustrated on
every side of this. Certainly young people are some of
the most frustrated because I think a lot of the
previous generations they got their homes, they got their homes
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for in some cases, the equivalent of one hundred and
fifty thousand dollars for a starter home. That's in today's dollars.
But you know, I can't imagine a young person walking
out of school and being able to find a home
that will stand up, that will stay up for one
hundred and fifty thousand dollars. And so it's a real challenge.
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It will take some bravery from lawmakers to get a
lot of these reforms passed. Allowing homeowners to build ADUs,
allowing developers to build more apartments, allowing lots to contain
up to four units via the building code, allowing people
to buy smaller lots, telling localities that they can't require
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a whole bunch of off street parking, which eats up
a lot of space that could be devoted to more housing.
It's just a matter of a lot of small reforms
that add up to a pretty big impact and a
transformational economic improvement in Kentucky.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Always enjoy spending time with the good folks from the
Bluegrass Institute. Calebo Brown is joining us now is the
how the series of forms around this state this week
to talk about the housing crisis in Kentucky. In final
question for you, Caleb, if Kentucky implements these reforms, what
does a healthier housing market look like five years from now?
Speaker 7 (12:52):
A healthier housing market is one in which we see
stabilizing prices of homes declining prices of homes. There are
competitor cities in North Carolina and Florida, in Texas that
after implementing these substantial reforms, have seen double digit percentage
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decreases in rent and the price of homes, and Kentucky
can get there. We can make this a more affordable
place for our young people to stay. We can encourage
the kinds of interesting development that we like to see
around the state. We can revitalize small downtowns by allowing
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housing over commercial developments in small towns across the commonwealth.
It's a very exciting possibility, but it will require bravery.
It will require lawmakers to make a decision that this
is a priority. And the big upside here that I
haven't mentioned, and I'm remiss in not mentioning it, is
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that we don't have to This doesn't punish taxpayers at all.
In fact, this has the possibility of lowering property taxes
for people who already live in these same neighborhoods in
these same cities. When you're sharing the cost of shared
infrastructure with a few more people, there's no reason for
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your property taxes to go up. So the housing markets
could be a lot more dynamic. We could see a
lot more young people starting families and deciding to put
down roots here in the Commonwealth of Kentucky. And that's
really what I want to see. And anybody who goes
to Bluegrass Institute dot org you can read more about it.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Caleble Brown Bluegrass Institute one of my favorite places to go. Buddy,
I appreciate you making time for us. Great to catch
up with you again. As Caleb mentioned, former host of
this very show has moved on to bigger and brighter
things now. Buddy, it's great to see again. Great to
hear your voice again, my friend, and let's not be strangers.
Thank you, Scott, I appreciate it again. I thank you
to Caleble Brown with the Bluegrass Insitude for helping us
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better understand Kentucky's housing challenges and how they affect every
one of us policy to paycheck. You can learn more
about their ongoing work at Bluegrass Institute dot org. When
we come back, we'll shift gears from home foundations to
something a little more competitive on the field. Kentucky sports
landscape is changing once again. We'll hear how this latest
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edition could reshape those here in the Commonwealth. We'll talk
about that and much more coming up. I'm Scott Fitzgerald.
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Welcome back to Kentucky polkus S. I'm Scott Fitzgerald. Well,
Kentucky is getting a new professional football team, the Louisville
Kings UFL co owner Mike Ropole announcing the expansion at
Lynn Family Stadium, revealing that out of thirty one cities
applying for a team, Only Louisville, Columbus, and Orlando were selected.
With a strong sports culture, top notch stadium, and passionate
fan base, the Commonwealth is now officially part of the
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spring football landscape. Appearing on NewsRadio eight forty WHS with
Terry Miners, was Steve Macy, vice president of the Louisville Kings,
to talk about why the city was chosen, what fans
can expect, and Holly King's planned to make spring football
success here in the Commonwealth. One of the questions Terry
put to him, with a great stadium already in place
with Lynn Family Stadium, why was Louisville such a good choice.
Speaker 10 (17:46):
One of the nice things about Micropoli coming in as
he asked us to re examine everything we were doing.
So three franchises went away, including the one I was
running in Memphis. It was Memphis, San Antonio, and Detroit.
All of them had sixty thousand sea plus stadiums that
ten to fifteen thousand people, and they look terrible. And
it's not a bad crowd when you compare it to
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the NBA, WNBA, NHL, not quite Major League Baseball, but
the other spring sports of fifteen thousand person crowds, A
great crowd is going to look full. And so that's
what he looked at, was, hey, let's look at the
soccer stadiums. DC was doing that already. So the DC
defenders have been playing in in the field. There, that's
a soccer stadium, and it looks full, it sounds full,
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there's great energy. There's nothing worse than a big play happen.
You have to run twenty feet to give somebody a
high five, right, I mean. And so that's one of
the things we talked about, is how do we get
that fan engagement. WHI becomes the thing to do when
you have fun when you're there, And I think that
the size of the stadium has to fit our crowd size,
and I think it's I think it's been great again.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Steve Macy joining news ready to eight forty Whs and
Terry Miners talking about Louisville and Kentucky's newest professional football team,
the Louisville Kings, and while with Great City, what are
some of the things they have in mind when it
comes to a fan experience.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
There's some great seats and we're gonna do some fun
things with I think We're going to put some barstool
sized chairs in the first row in that north end
zone and kind of make those a premium spot to
be right there on the action. I'm really excited to
see how the supporter section works in the south end zone.
With football, you know, it's a little bit longer game
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to be standing up that long. But I think that group.
We've already had several people reach out to us to say,
what are we gonna call ourselves? How are we going
to organize this? Can we be part of it? But
I love all of those things. So we've got an
already group of fifteen one hundred it says between fifteen
one hundred that want to be that supporter group for
our football games. And that's you know, it's music to
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my ears.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
That'll be fun and what will be the makeup of
the team, the product everybody's coming to see.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Almost ninety percent of the guys that were on our
rosters have been somehow affiliated with an NFL team, whether
they were drafted, they were on a practice squad, they
were in training camp. So it's a it's a super
high level when you compare that to baseball and basket
by which we're about five percent. It's these guys have
all kind of had a taste of it. Some of
them just were wrong in the wrong camp. You know,
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a guy that was a great wide receiver in college
goes to an NFL camp and all six receivers in
NFL camp stay healthy. He never really gets a shot
and he was just in the wrong camp. We have
a lot of that. The play is just absolutely phenomenal.
It's high end. There's over three hundred guys that have
been in NFL rosters now that are in our league
that have made the rosters. So someone has asked me
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to describe it's not min only football because it's spring football,
because they're not affiliated with those teams. It's not that same.
Only five percent of the guys are making it. It's
phenomenal football at a very very high level.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Against Steve Macy joining Terry Miners on news radio eight
forty whas talking about Lee Louisville King's Kentucky's newest professional
football team. And of course, now that we know what
the team's going to look like, they've got to be
coached by somebody. So will they be familiar names to fans?
Speaker 10 (20:55):
So, as a marketer at heart, I'm hoping that it's
somebody that we know, and it's somebody that's local and
has a lot of local panas. I don't know who
it's going to be yet. I had heard a name,
but you know, and it didn't work out. You know.
The idea here is to find someone that can be
the face because the players are going to come and
go over time.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
You know.
Speaker 10 (21:13):
The goal is that we provide them the avenue to
do whatever they want to do in their life, whether
it's football or something else that we're trying to build
young men, kind of like in the college game, but
this is a little bit on the higher level. And
what you will find as you guys interact with the
players and the coaches, they're so appreciative to be able
to play professional football that they've been humbled in some way,
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shape or form. It's been my favorite level of athlete
to work with. They're so excited and hungry to be
part of anything it has to do with football.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And of course you can't talk about football without talking
about tailgating, right, really be part of the game day experience.
Speaker 10 (21:48):
One of the neat things about the FC team here
is and there's such a great tailgating space up on
top of the hill. It's incredible what that tailgating atmosphere is.
And we're hoping we just go check it. Let's play
it right up there. We're gonna run right up there
and we're gonna have a big tail get up there.
We'll have parties, we'll have inflatables, we'll.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Do all the things.
Speaker 10 (22:07):
And then some of the open space for fans. If
you haven't been to a soccer match, the space on
that north end zone right by the river where it's
all in.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
It's all enclosed.
Speaker 10 (22:18):
You have to show your ticket to get in, but
it's the artificial turf, and they've got a little plaque
practice soccer field for kids to run on. They've got
inflatables out there. It's a really neat place for families
to come and enjoy. And we just can't wait to
make that our home again.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Steve Macy, vice president of the Louisville Kings, Kentucky's newest
professional sports franchise, and he appeared on news radio eight
forty WHS with Terry Miners. And when it comes to games,
that's what fans want to know. How many games will
they play? And when is this season.
Speaker 10 (22:49):
The season will start at the end of March and
it'll run ten straight weeks. We have five home, five
away games, and there'll be one week of playoffs. The
top four teams will play off, and then the following week,
which is Father's Weekend, that'll be the championship game. It's
a sprint. It's twelve weeks of spring football.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
You know.
Speaker 10 (23:05):
People have asked about the ticket prices. We haven't set
them yet, but they're going to be in line with
what Low City's doing from a pricing standpoint. And well,
so we say, hey, look, the other thing we'll give
you is that you can get in for less than
hundred bucks per season take and we'll have that price point.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
And of course we were asking about the make up
the team earlier. What's a roster size look like for
a team like this.
Speaker 10 (23:25):
So they have sixty guys fifty year active each week,
so ten guys are inactive and those ten guys get
a certain level pay. The fifty that are active get
a little higher pay for that week. And so it's
a small squad like the NFL. You know, there's guys
that are playing special teams and offense and defense just
to make the roster work.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And again spending a few minutes with Steve Macy, vice
president of the Louisville Kings, Kentucky's newest professional sports franchise,
that they will start playing at Louis Lynn Family Stadium.
And while he was on news radio eight forty WHS
with Terry Miners, and the question was asked, would NFL
teams take players during the season.
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They really don't during the season, so that because this
is one of their opportunities to see guys. And that's
why there's so many UFL players in XFL and USFL
before that that are playing in the NFL because they're
getting to see ten weeks of film on somebody. And
this season ends early enough that guys that have bumps
and bruises that they've got plenty of time to get
healthy before they would head to training camp if that
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was the case.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
And finally, something everybody wants to know, what's the biggest
rule change between this league and say college football and
the NFL.
Speaker 10 (24:33):
So in our league, do not kick an extra point.
You either go for one, two, or three from either
the two, the five, or the ten. The new NFL
rule where you're not bringing the chains out that it's electronic,
that was ours. Those were three of the biggest things,
and now it really is just the extra point. I wish,
as more of a football purist that we would have
a kick available, but we don't, so it's no bag deal.
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So he's got to tell people how it is now
the best rule we have. We have by far the
best overtime rules. Sovery college you have the twenty five
yard line the NFL, each team gets the ball ours
is it's a best of three two point conversion. It's
more like a soccer shootout. Every single one of those
six plays matters and then it goes to a sudden
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death after that. It's the best overtime rule.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
What an exciting time for Kentucky sports fans. No matter
the community you live in, professional sports will always bring
something to our state. No matter if it's in Paducah,
if it's a bowling green, if it's in Ashland, if
it's in Louisville or even Lexington. We love having professional
sports here in the Commonwealth. After the break, we'll wrap
things up with a few final thoughts and of course
look ahead to what's coming up next week. I'm Scott Fitzgerald,
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You're listening to Kentucky Focus.
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a game winning shot, a photo finish. Maybe it's a
pep rally or a pregame ritual. Maybe it's the euphoria
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imagine if it never happened at all. School sports need
your help with budgets getting tighter. It's more than the
games that are on the line. It's all the traditions,
the community pride, the culture of your hometown high school,
plus all those memories that are on the line too.
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What can you do?
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It's simple, buy a ticket when you can go to
a game. Take the whole family. Let's do everything we
can to keep those cherished school sports memories alive.
Speaker 7 (26:38):
I need a tax prepare?
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How should I choose one?
Speaker 11 (26:41):
Using a paid tax prepare this year? Before paying someone
to do your taxes, make sure they're qualified, Ask about
their fees, experience, and training. Check with a better business bureau.
Avoid anyone who promises a higher refund, and reveal your
tax return before you sign it, and make sure your
preparer signs it too. For more tips, visit IRS dot
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gov and search choosing a prepare.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And that'll do it. For this week's Kentucky Focus. Our
thanks again to calebo Brown from the Bluegrass Institute and
Steve Macy with the Louisville Kings, as well as Terry
Miners along with our friends at news Radio eight forty
whs for their conversation in support coming up next week.
Hard to believe, but we're flipping the calendar too. What
November that means Thanksgivings around the corner? And what if
(27:27):
I told you you could enjoy some of those foods
you love the most without feeling guilty about it. And
I'm not talking about some bad diet, some crash diet,
some expert pitching us another healthy Thanksgiving. I'm talking about
real food that you can eat and ways to make
this a healthy Thanksgiving. As we all try to kill
a little bit more health conscious. We'll talk about that
and anything that changes here in the Commonwealth as well
as always, thanks for making Kentucky Focus part of your
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listening each week. For all of us here at the
Kentucky News Network and of course at Kentucky Focus. I'm
Scott fitzgrel telling you thank you, be safe, take care
of each other. We'll talk to you next week on Tucky.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Boaks Kentucky Focus on the Kentucky News Network, the show
that looks at issues affecting the Commonwealth and it's citizens.
We cover state politics, in history, human interest stories, sports,
and even entertainment. It's Kentucky Focus on.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
K and n.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
They are our cuddlers and coworkers, per machines, and love
bugs and constant companions. They are our pets, our family,
and they make life so much better when we face
unexpected challenges in life. So do our pets. That's why
we're on a mission to support people who love their
pets and the pets who love their people, ensuring these
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families stay exactly where they belong. Together and you have
something to offer. With an open heart and mind, there
is nothing you can't do. There's no gesture too small
or too big when it comes to helping. Whether donating
a bag of kibble, sharing an Instagram post of a
lost cat, or welcoming foster bed into your home, every
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bit of kindness counts. You can help keep pets and
people together. Visit Pets and Peopletogether dot org. To learn
how to be a helper in your community. This has
been a public service announcement brought to you by Maddie's Fund,
the Humane Society of the United States, and the AD Council.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
Or thing I have I owe to the Adult Leriacy
Center and getting my high school diploma at age twenty two.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
Find free and supportive adult education centers near you at
Finisherurdiploma dot org.
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