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May 16, 2025 56 mins

Jalen Brunson is putting on an all-time playoff performance — and KG & Paul Pierce are putting respect on his name. The guys break down how the Knicks star is dominating 4th quarters and where he ranks among the playoff greats. Then, it’s chaos in the lottery: the Mavs win the No. 1 pick — do they grab Cooper Flagg or potentially flip it for someone like Giannis? Plus: Celtics in crisis, Pacers on the rise, and why who has the best shot to win it all.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Man, Hey, bro, what'd y'all go watch the game? Man?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Because I thought you were Yo.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Someone's here?

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Well who is it?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Where this nigga?

Speaker 1 (00:20):
That's a big homey got one of your old homies,
man from a whit Kevin Bad? I don't know, man,
So we just walking in here, Doug, what are you
pulling up?

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Lord?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
You know? Bro? Oh ship, get the fuck.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Out of here? There we go? Okay, I want to break.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh shit this the girl? Oh fuck brow, but you
can get the hell apout of here after you drop
this fucking with you. Oh shit, oh shit, oh shit?
Oh ship? Here, yes, sir, yes, the whole ship. Listen, ship.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
I tried to tell her since the last time I
saw her. You know, she didn't got a whole makeover,
and I was in love this morning. You know what
I'm saying Now, she got the lips.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
They ain't gonna put a whole makeover on the man.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
She got she got the bb L.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You know what I'm saying. She got a new weave,
she got a whole done over, the.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
Whole make A guy named Victor Solomon did it and
redesigned it a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
His name is Victor Solomon.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
He's like an artist and he redid a lot of
the NBA trophies.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
That's the opening. Z get me the front, bromh.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Come on, man, I was looking at that, looking at
the inscriptions.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Man, right right, we got the girl in the day though,
Look at this all the champs. He just why we
do it right here? This is why we're doing right here.
The Larry ob You hear me, y'all know who larryo
b is. He was a dope commissioner the change it
no bro. He took us they gonna name this Stern

(02:09):
Bro just Larry O'Brien. He took us into the new
generation of Stern it is.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
He modernized us. Larry O'Brien took us.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
To He was original. But the kids don't even know
who I'm trying to give it to me. I know
who I know because we have stories. But these kids,
if you asked him who that is, was like, who
is that? So that should make them go and find
out who this is. It should be just the man
who actually formulated at our whole joint for David Stern
to take it and take it to another rif you
know what I'm saying. So, man, you know what it

(02:42):
is bro. Nah you know every now? Yeah? Yeah, maybe
later when we get done. You know, he know I'm
funny about the girl. You know, I don't. I don't
like a bunch of hands on you know, a bunch
of I want to on it, doll, look at you.
You know what I'm saying? Hey, yeah, this what's up though?

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Man? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:02):
Hit the lights on this, bro, Yeah boy, this is
smooth ship. Boy.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Hey, you need to get a dinner with this in
the bat boy. This you feel me?

Speaker 1 (03:09):
This might be some closes for you. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Put this on truth?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
You know in that curveball a working you need to
go with You know what I'm saying, that curveball a
and work. You gotta go to that. You feel me?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
This might be the closer you feel me?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Man? This what's up?

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Man? Right?

Speaker 1 (03:25):
We got the laro being here, the new and improved
to twenty five right here. You feel me taking the truth? Man,
y'all know what it is? Certain faster certa certified, certified, certain.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Certified.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
It's a green summer.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, we built differently.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
You ain't watching the games like I'm watching it again.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
You're outside, We're alive.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
This when you stop the production, we go back. We want.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
They need to take this, no, you know, just needs.
They need to change the Bill Russell MVP award. This
needs to be the Bill Russell. That'll be hard Championship trophy.
He should be the Bill Russell, not not the MVP.
You could call the MVP trophy in the East something else,
Jordan or something.

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Well, No, the MVP trophy in the East is the
Larry bird one, and then the West's Magic Johnson and
then the finals MVP is Bill Russell.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, but this should be the Bill Russell. What's the Jordan?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Jordan's the league MVP Now, damn.

Speaker 4 (04:34):
This should be the Bill Russell. Though he got the
most chips, he got the most of these, but this
should be the Bill.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Larry b Off anything mean he is in Stone. You
can't got to start changing stuff up though.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
Okay, then that's the case. We need to change some
laws that's been been around for a hundred years. We
need to change schools that's been around for hundred you know,
we do it.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
I'm with it.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
The money system that's been around since the nineteen thirty.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Like what we're saying, we do.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Yeah, it's time.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
So if we're doing all that you're saying.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I'm with it, But man, listen, I don't know for pe,
but at least for myself. Bro, you know, to have
their experience of winning, it's never it never goes anywhere.
Even when you're watching television or something reminds you of something,
even when you see others celebrating, takes you back. Now,
every time I see this man, it always takes me
to like a little man's horizon.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
You know what I'm saying. We got I got you
know what I'm saying. We got these at the joint,
so you know.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
But yeah, it's always it's always nice to sit by
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
It's good energy.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Yeah right, it's always.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Larry O.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Bee can always like put you in a good mood.
Give for what type of day you got. You know
what I'm saying. See that.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
I got to get the video of my reflection in it.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Of course you will be doing some ship with you
right yo. Ays it's a word stick. You can't make
this up, y'all. Hey Zeus holler at us man stick
and one of them car zoos man, he's ready, he
ready for the Zeus network. You going to zeus, A
little line, a little line, a little bit. Ze's come

(06:09):
with that bad You're gone, I know you, Lord, You're gone,
peacock gone, you peacocked out. No, No, not on a Fox,
not on a Fox budget.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, that nigga's lying.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Look, you gotta weed in the vision. You know how
this goes. You can't go to I'm not an only fans.
You should be. You are two seconds from Tiger my nigga.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Hell, go on there and throw some things around. You
want to throw it around. I'm a streamer.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Throw there, news parsing, not I just talked ship. Throw
it around there. You want to throw the party, go
and throw it around, right, you should be get them
my only fans Joe. Hell, hey, Church call only fans?

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Right?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
What you mean? Hell? Now, don't run from it. Now,
don't run from it. You either be here, You're gonna be.
He can't be in the middle. Now, who are you?

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Samuels?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Are you? Are you? Are you health? No?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Who are you? Are you?

Speaker 1 (07:04):
Samuels? Are you giving advice? Are you talking.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
About some more Samuels more than you?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
I'm a mix sprinkle of sprinkle.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
I just told you can't play the middle. So you're
giving advice while being Hugh. Listen to that, and you
just had two shorter on the Listen man, listen, man, listen, listen, listen. Man,
ain't this this is what I'm saying. We get into
that on the whole another man, Right.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Let's getting Nate your real ship boy.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
We in cole red, we in cole red, super w cole.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
Red, super cold red.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
But man, I don't even know.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
What to say.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
These are all went outs. Ain't no, ain't no nothing.
Tatum out with torn achilles. Man shout to Tatum, man
get well, that's a two years. Just like you think
he got two years. I don't think he got two years.
Like players is coming back faster. I know that. But
who was that Kawhi took a whole year off and
why didn't have a tear of achilles?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Did he?

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I'm just talking about the time d k D took
off the nextra year for the and then Clay took.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
Clay had an achilles and the a c L so
he had to two bad set backs.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Also had this year.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
He ain't take it.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
He came ticket this year alone.

Speaker 5 (08:27):
John Tay Murray towards Achilles, Kyrie Irving towards a c
l Damian Lillard, Achilles Tatum, Isaiah Jackson, Achilles Tear, Grant
Williams towards a c l Uh.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
The list goes on.

Speaker 5 (08:38):
So this year has been a really bad year for injuries,
Like what do you kind of think that that's amounting to?

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Like, what's the reason behind it?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
When I watched the injuries paid, the injuries look freakish,
Like it's not like me and him tussling and you know,
me and Pete locked up and we you know what
I'm saying, fail wrong. It's guy's like stepping towards the
ball and and like movement and ships stuff that's I mean,
stuff that we do every day, stuff that you wouldn't
think about. Like if the ball rolled out right now

(09:05):
in front of you Isazac and in church, all three
of y'all will step back and actually go after it
with the same type of ready to say it go right.
It's just freakish. Man. We talk about how dras when
we talk about flexibility, all this plays in the parts.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
And then when you're.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Making a run, like how you see all these teams
making a run, you need a little luck and sometimes
his good luck is my bad luck, and I think.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Pece says, it's all time, bro. You need all these other.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Things, like you need all the players on point, we
need everybody playing defense. And then here comes those little
small intrigate You need a little luck and stuff like this.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Every time.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
You remember when Jimmy Butler in the Miami he made
that run and then Gianni's hurt his back. I think
somebody else from the Indiana got hurt. Like all these
things start happening for ye set up.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
And remember that.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
So when I'm watching all this, I'm just watching like, damn, man,
these are those things. This is what happens when you're
on your run. And it's unfortunate that all those players
you named, man had those unfortunates. But I really think
that those pieces, unfortunately, man, they happen in the in
the scheme of what's going on, Like it's a perfect
story if they go back and they repeat, right, But

(10:16):
they ain't how this's gonna be written. It's gonna be
written a whole other way than what we want. And
that's the beauty of the NBA. Man. There's been some
of the I can't remember when the playoffs was this good.
There's been some blowouts, but Man, it's been some fucking gangs.
Well I can't even I can't even put the bowl
of popcorn. I can't even reach for nothing. You feel
so yeah, man, it's just great. Man, This is what

(10:37):
we needed.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I think I think all basketball enthusiasts wanted this. Not
like this, but look at New York's energy. I told
you this, when New York is fucking lit. Man in
fucking league is lit. Man. You see, man, New York
fans acting like a soccer team. You know when you
go overseas and you see Chelsea and they marching up
Chelsea and you got, man, you coming the other way, bro,
we were going into like fans like I see the

(11:02):
Boston fans had to straighten out some New York fans.
I saw that they got some straightened had the street
get them straightened out. Calm down, calmed down, you're in Boston.
But then I also saw how New York looks. Yeah,
and how Boston fans ain't even safe in New York
right now.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
No, it wouldn't been clean for us to go to games.

Speaker 1 (11:21):
I'm not especially No, mean, we can't go sit We
know Spring, we know Steph, we know we know the
Knicks no, mellow, we can't go in there. We can't
go in once again. We can go in the garden.
Me man, I'm just not gonna be walking the streets.
I ain't saying were walking the streets, were going through
the gard gowing that gorilla dout.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
You know what I'm saying. You're gonna have to wear
my teams to that. Everybody gonna have old teams. Yeah,
that'd have been that be dope, dope.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I want to ask you about Brunson.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Brunson averaging ten in the fourth quarter of this postseason,
number one in the league right now, where do you
kind of have them ranked in terms of players that
are in the playoffs right now?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
People?

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Are you gonna right here?

Speaker 4 (11:59):
When just All said, no, I don't know where right
now as far as playoff performers, he on the list,
He probably like one or two on the list because
then like after I saw the Joker did he bounced back?

Speaker 2 (12:15):
But they lost?

Speaker 4 (12:16):
But Jayleen, I gotta throw Yeah, Jaylen Brunston has probably
been the most consistent.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
He's been the most clutch.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
I'm talking about the all p everybody, Anthony Edwards, No P,
I'm talking history, Jordan, I'm talking no, no, no, no, no, no,
we can't throw that hold on. Bro. He's averaging ten
points in the fourth alone.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Stop, you know that's the second round.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
This is like, this is the playoffs, bro, people disappearing,
James Harden get in here and totally disappear and ship
like this not the.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Saying, but Jaylen Brunston is doing right now. I'm saying,
where does he rank among the players right now? In
the least in the playoffs? He's like, is he the
best player in the playoffs right now?

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Today?

Speaker 4 (12:55):
That's playing the best? Probably so him and like Anthony Edwards. Uh,
but Jayson Brush is probably playing the best, most consistent
out of all the players playing in the playoffs right now.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Okay, there wasn't a question but that yes, no, he said,
was it.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
An all time No?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
I was saying in terms of I don't agree with you.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
Sorry, I got him in the list of all that, though, Bro,
you know, to score teen and the fourth that's hard
when it's when they know you come just in this
series though, No, this is the postseason.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
So as it says today on Wednesday, they played ten
games so far. The next scored over one hundred points
through ten games, He's scored the most points in the
fourth quarter of anyone ever. And that's like a list
with Kobe and Steph Curry and things like that.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Okay, yeah, that's that's the killer he's killing.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
He's killing killing, man.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
He's top five.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
He gonna go down as one of the best Playoffs
Spider Mitchell don't getting enough. He steps his game up
when playoffs come. Brunson steps his game up. But that's
what I'm saying, Bro, And you on the board. It
ain't like like you down here in little small lessons.
You are on the board as top a priority. Look,

(14:04):
this is what we gotta do. They ain't through no
double teams that listen. I don't know, man, I think
every playoffs game you gotta make adjustments. You know, they
have not made an adjustment at least to none of
the fourth quarter issues, even the comebacks. You know, having
Jaylen Brussel on, have you on an island one on one?
You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't know. It's

(14:26):
just so difficult to guard. He is a shifty but
shifty guards. Bro. You got to send somebody out of
him if you want to take somebody out the game.
But you gotta take the ball out of his hands.
And if you ain't gonna do that, then this is
what it is. He too good to go one on
one right now in the zone. Bro, He don't even.
He used to get in the zone to where he'll
take a shot and we'll get to the bench and
he'd be like, yo, I didn't even see. I didn't

(14:47):
even he was right there. Like, don't be like, yeah
he was. He was right in your failor. I ain't
even when I see him wooping, man, Bro, he did
He's not even seeing the defense. Bro. He did a
move second fourth quarter on the left side. He gave
it in and out. It was a basic and then
just got back to like he just man, he and

(15:09):
the groove. Man, you gotta take a hard fire. You
gotta make him do something else. I'll run a second
guy at him. I run a bigger guy at him.
You know what I'm saying. What would you do to
make an adjustment on Brunson?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
I think like what the Celtics was doing. They were switching,
you know, and you know that's the NBA defense. But
I would like when he come off the picking rulls,
I would trap him because I gotta say, all right,
who can beat me off the dribble consistently out of
the other players and get buckets out because he can
one on one and Michel Bridges showed that he can
get buckets too. But I rather him beat me than

(15:41):
Brunson because he's proven he can beat you. You know
what I'm saying. The other guys ain't proven they can
beat you every night. Brunston can beat you every night. Right,
So I gotta get the ball out of his hands
and say, hey, these are one of these other dudes,
gotta beat me?

Speaker 2 (15:55):
And if you beat me, yop my hats off.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
And if I'm being honest, man, looks the Knicks player
in Detroit actually helped them. It helped them to be
more physical. I thought, I said this, whoever came out
of the Detroit New York series was going to be
prepared for the physicality, you know what I'm saying. Just
like they're just look at Josh Hart, Josh Hart second
and third effort, Robinson second and third effort. Bro, They

(16:20):
mcbrid when he comes in, they're just they're just they're
just trying to outwork the seeds. Bro.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
That's that's it.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
And yeah, man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
That's what it looked like. It looked like they just
kind of like second and third efforts.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Man, they are working the seeds, uh, because the series
the Seeds, the Seeds go up every game, but then
they continue to settle. They don't impose. They didn't impose
they will when they took these leads. You know what
I'm saying, They just kind of like set off for
the threes, and you know, they fall at a high rate.
And then when they don't fall when you need them to,

(16:51):
you allow a team to get back in the game.
Because every game you done been up, every game you've
been up double figures every single game, haven't finished it
off and haven't finished them up because you don't impose
your will and impose your will what I used to say,
when we get when we get up, I want to
get to the rat because then that demoralizes something at
the basket, getting fouled, getting like that moralizes the hard

(17:12):
Yeah that's hard too. Yeah, you know, because I'm gonna
tell you, the easiest shot in the league is the three.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Guess what, it's the hardest, it's the most difficult.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
You can get it every time you can.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Get it every time. But guess what if I if you,
I will actually give you the three every time if
it says you not coming down here, attacking me, getting
files on me, going to the whole stepping back. I
got to guard three four seconds. You want to shoot three?

Speaker 2 (17:37):
Go ahead?

Speaker 1 (17:37):
Yeah, And I hope you make one real shit because
then now you settle for that. So when I watch
the Seeds get up, bro, there's no attacking, there's no downhill,
and and then that doesn't treate the energy for the
other end to play defense. And you know, like, let's
just be honest, man, the Nicks are getting it done
and they're a better team right now. So it's like
this is gonna be a hard game for the Seeds

(17:58):
for the one that you know they gonna fight because
they champs, right But it's just like I'm just thinking,
if I'm in the locker room, like and I just
know how I am, I'm not I'm gonna fight.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
But at the same time, in the back of my mind,
just knowing my teammate going through what he going through.
You know what I'm saying, It's like mixed emotion. It's
a lot of mixed emotions in there. But when you
sitting there. It's just gonna be. It's gonna be. It's
gonna be going like this, it's gonna be spinning. You
know what I'm saying. Ticket, it ain't gonna it ain't.
Nothing gonna get calm for me until I step on
the court for the game five.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
You know what I'm saying. Then it's gonna be like,
all right, we're hooping.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
But before all of that, my head gonna be like
in so many different directions, like Gang five. Jan T
got hurt. It's like the wind, the wind just like
you know I just like we've.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Been here, we've been here, We're making our second run.
I get hurt and all the air went out the
room and I had to come back in and the
shirt got Hey, man coming back. Fuck all that hold
me down? We be ten games, We're good. And then
I'm in a locker room hurt. Hey, come on, man,
go at that nigga. I'm man. If I can't be
on the court, man, you're gonna hear me, you're gonna film,
You're gonna feel my energy.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I'm steal me.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I'm coming here on great hey, hey, just because one
gorilla ain't here. Wait, we're still on.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
That come on, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And then and then and the only thing he needed
to hear was that baby fop. And then now I
got here, I only need like four or five Bro.
Her gonna follow the herd and bro that's what man,
I'm feeling that.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
But and in what you're saying, knowing.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
I got up Campadre out, knowing I'm about to go
through some real ship. Now I'm gonna be extra gas
just because he out. And I'm just gonna be an
extra effort just because he out. So I'm expecting them
to bring that type of image. So who gonna be
that for them? Listen, it's gonna be by committee. I
think everybody's thinking within themselves. If they think together, they
can do. Listen if they get up again and then

(19:51):
starting to attack the baskets, because that's what you when
you get up by twenty, now you attack. Now you're
trying to get into the bro That's what it is.
You know what I'm saying, I'll be there for Game seven.
M that'd be hard.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Let's get it other team out east. The Indiana Pacers
fans to the conference finals for the second straight year.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
The Cavaliers, despite a sixteen win improvement year over year,
get get eliminated in the second round. Again, what have
you seen from the Pacers that that makes you feel
like they're a team that can compete for a title.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
Hold on, before we answer this, Church, I need you
to get the mean a bird man coming into the
breakfast breakfast club. I need you put Rick Carlyle's face
on bird Man and he gonna sit down and say,
I need you to put some respect on my name.
I ain't telling you, no, no, you need to put
some respect on Indiana's name. Man, Indiana needs some respect

(20:39):
dog or put Rick Carlin face on fregial star. When
he was in the breakfast club to breakfast, he was
talking about what a breakfast and he was about to whip.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
That's talk about.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, I'm saying that to say, man, we gotta put
some respect on Indiana's name. Man, No, I've been saying this.
I've been saying this tick. I'm just saying you watch
out for Indiana. I can't believe that they they're not already.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
Do you know why I see he smoked Cleveland because
I see they got about like eight nine dogs like yeah,
like ob Nam, Hard Nie Smith, all them like all
of them Miles turned.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's like eight of them.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Yeah, and then home alone he dog two. Yeah, dog
ain't gonna lie. Uh yeah, a dog. He picking you
up full as soon as he you amate Thori. They
got like they got about eight Josh.

Speaker 5 (21:42):
Hart's six guys and double figures in the playoffs.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
That's what I'm saying. That's why they're hard to play against.
And dude, the way he play Hollerbird, he blew the ball.
He was dominant. Then when he he come up.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
With these big threes. They unpredictable out there. They so unpredictable.
That's why they and they're gonna push the pace. And
they're gonna push the pace. Problem with them and they athletic.
What team shows up through. Man, they're tough, broy tough,
They tough and tough. They reminded me of that Toronto
team that wanted with Kawhi just a bunch of bunch

(22:15):
of just dogs. Kyle Lawry and them was on that team. Yeah, yeah,
you know what I'm saying. I hear the comparison trying
to lay it's just Halliburton, bro. When he listen when
he's when he's a one brow, his hands down. It's
just when we don't, when he don't come a one, bro,
they struggle. They go may a lot of making anybody better.

Speaker 2 (22:36):
Man. He runs hard, get off. He helps a lot.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Of that ship move and they confident you can stell
he and start confidencing them.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
He go to them and I'm like, well hold on,
and then we got his own rebound. Then Hito asked
for for game and then gave you the saying that's
a bar, that's crazy. And man, I'm telling he got
a chip on the shoulder. They said dude was overrated
a chip. He got a real chip on his shoulder.
The Knicks go to the conference finals, who you got?

(23:05):
I think? I think Indiana.

Speaker 4 (23:06):
If the Knicks go to the conference final, I think Indiana
gonna pop with us one Halaburda and I scared of
the next.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I saw what he deal did to them last year.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
He was at them last year. A different team. It's
a different teams, a different team. And you see New
York just be the sixty. Do you see do you
see New York? Do you see what type of environment
in New York? You just said you ain't going New
York and watch a game. Bro, The jungle is lit,
it's litt and the jungle is lit. It's lip but
but you gotta go in there and have a different

(23:36):
I seen him get blown out in the garden too.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
Just what I'm trying to say, brow it's physical right now,
seeing New York gets blown Listen, he's beat them by
a dub in the garden New York in game three.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
We saw that. So they didn't show me.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
And let's cheasing on. I'm not saying nobody.

Speaker 4 (23:53):
I said it's tough at home man, Indiana, it's just
as just as rowdy as New York.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Stop.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I would have been in both playing better. Stop.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I've been in the playoffs. The environments.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
You'll go to Indiana and watch a game before you
go to New York and watch the games. Stop.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
I get it. But I'm just saying that environment is
just as loud. I ain't saying it wasn't a rowdy.
I said Indiana got a jungle.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
They got a jungle. That ship like that ship, like
that ship, the Amazon, It ain't the Congo.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Listen to this and listen to this.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Listen. When you be hearing all that, you don't know
what's going on.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm gonna tell you my perspective of the New York
Garden and playing in Indiana, because I didn't play in
a few playoff series versus both. I loved going into
the Garden New York playing. I got chilled. I love
to go there. It was nothing intimidating by it. It
felt like I was at home the right Indiana, I

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felt like I was on the road.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
In the guard I was so comfy because I liked
that environment. I like the stage, I liked that atmosphere.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
I felt like I.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Was at home.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
But in Indiana, I felt like I was on the road.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
You felt like an opponent. Yeah you see that. You
know how you felt when you played in the Garden.
It's a different feeling right you on the road. But
you like, I'm comfying here.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
You usher? Oh lord?

Speaker 1 (25:14):
You know? Addition, you you me, you gonna every time
the life back.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Kind of girl. You're like, man, shit me yeah sorry anytime.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Listen. I ain't never worried about you. La Chicago, Houston, Miami, Atlanta,
all the popping cities, man, truth, having to be right, man,
Nick got the fresh peas on or somebody getting fifty
tonight we had Utah, Portland Man Cleveland. So I did.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Against the next.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
No, so I did it. Listen, I get it.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I'm forty one and twenty my career.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
Home Man Road, but all time forty one twenty against
the next.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Because the Garden has great game. But I understand because
Indiana does a great job of making you feel like
you know what I'm saying. That's a different Yeah, and
they don't get no fuck. They ship talking is very
similar to like how Sack does it. They're coming there
with bells, signs, ship holding up. You know what I'm saying,
Like they go back to like a traditional.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Paul you suck, ain't your head?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Like they still on that ship kind of bitch, right,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Ship like that.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, So I get that. That's a great that was Yeah, yeah,
I see what you said.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Next thing, I want to ask you about the Dallas
Mavericks win the draft lottery.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
They get the number one pick Cooper flag. Do they
trade it?

Speaker 5 (26:46):
Like what do you and what did you just think
when you saw the Maps got the number one pick.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Nigga, I saw Nico stick up both fingers to the world.
I won't that's crazy one ain't man? Do you get
a pass?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Man?

Speaker 1 (27:02):
You get a pass at all?

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Do get get out of that? Man?

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Hit?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
He did? But what do you do? What you're gonna
do with this number one pick?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
Man?

Speaker 2 (27:15):
What are y'all wanting from me?

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Y'all?

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I got rid of one grade white hope, I got another?

Speaker 1 (27:19):
What's it's the flag?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Lord?

Speaker 1 (27:24):
First to the flag?

Speaker 2 (27:25):
But I'm saying what now?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
This is Chris to the flag?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
You get flags? You picking Cooper flag? Right now? Man?
Is you keeping that? Listen to what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
But I'm gonna give you my thoughts on this.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
We're trading him for Greek.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
This first got the number two pick too, so it's
worth bringing up that as well as like, do either
of these teams deal the one or two pick?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
I go for Greek now, I'm sorry, I love Listen.
First off, this was bogus as fuck. The bad teams
in the league need the players that coming out of
college or coming out of high school or whatever. Those
are the teams that need the draft. When when Bro
Dallas got the draft, Bro, Bro, they I didn't even.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I don't even.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
I'm like everybody else who scrambled right. But it was
just it just they gotta fix that, bro. Even the
Spurs a second, Bro, they got Bro. The Hornets need
help Washington, they need they need playing being honest, Cooper
flag in Washington, Cooper flagging and in some other places.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Ain't getting the ratings.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Don Man funk that those those franchises need that talent.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
They're gonna have to move. Oh, they're gonna have to
move this Bro, you got, you got, you got Listen,
Dallas got now, the middle and later. They're built for
the now, the middle, and the late.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Like like, you don't ever get it right.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
You got an opportunity to trade flag for Greek freak,
you're doing it and risk the fan base over here?
How I don't give a fuck, Like what the fare
you lose? Like Nico, you did it again?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Okay, cool, it's cool. Wait for y'all see the greed.
Don't worry about it. Wait till the greed get here.
What if that don't work out, gotta go for it.
It ain't no one hundred percent. The flag don't work out,
but at least you you secured the future. Now you
just said it didn't work out but what if it
don't work out with the Greek son? What if it
don't work out with the Flag, it's boating there.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
At least you got a future. I hear what you're saying.
You like, I'm gonna say something different.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Yeah, but I'm just saying. I'm just putting out there
for you. Y'all here because you traded our other BITCHU
I did. I'm we're trying to win now. I got
the guns and the beam on me. Now, I gotta
win now. So the now is now.

Speaker 4 (29:39):
So he made the trade because he is in a
win now mode. Oh yeah, so it's a win now.
What if Cooper Flag come in here and don't pay? Oh,
you got a chance to get young as you didn't
take you?

Speaker 2 (29:47):
What the fuck? Yeah? You hear what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
It's both, it's bro. It's damn if you do, damn
if you don't.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
But you got the flag.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Bro. The name of the game is captured the flag.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I think you entertain the best offers, right, Fine? Have
Kyrie Anthony Davis too, real binge with Lively and gafferd Bro.
Come on, bro, and you Gotfred to Washington. Man, you
gotta horse the dogs over there, man Clay.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
I'm giving us. I'm giving you flag. Do you get honest?

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Yeah, money's got to go out, got to go out
of the maps for them to make that trade.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
They don't have to give us some dog. You gotta
either sign. You got to give up either Gafford or Lively.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Yeah, but it's still like that's not enough money, like
you would almost need.

Speaker 4 (30:31):
You gotta re sign Gafford then in the sign and trade, Yeah,
because he's up for an extension, so you got to
resign him on the side and trade and give him
a number one pick?

Speaker 2 (30:39):
And then who else over there? And I can just
go ahead, shoot in, I'm taking them Gafford. You're probably
gonna want Greek and somebody else.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
If I can get a number one pick for Greek.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
And that's not even money though, Greek and then.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Payroll looking like who else got a big contract? I
don't even know they wing men.

Speaker 5 (30:59):
The big contracts on the team are Anthony Davis and
Kyrie Irvings, like those are the two big ones. And
then there's a lot of guys that are you know,
sixteen eighteen million around there.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
You got you gotta resign Gaffer. He's gonna come in
like twenty million.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Uh, and Giannis is making fifty five million next year too.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah, so you gotta get gafferd his deal signed to
trade him and throw in some other pieces, and you're
not gonna make it work.

Speaker 5 (31:22):
What about with the Spurs, though they got the number
two pick, they got some tradable contracts and a lot
of first round picks to be able to trade for
the future.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Who you like Janni's Hold on before you answer that,
who do you like? Gianni's a better You like him
in Dallas or San Antonio?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Bet?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
What's what's the better opportunity to you for Janna's in.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Your in your opinion, I think Dallas is more ready
to win now than san Antonio. I think they gonna
take a few years because I don't know their guards
as young. Whereas you got Kyrie over there and you
got Anthony. They both been won in the league, so
they went, Yeah, you're you're you're expecting Kyrie to look like.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
I don't need Kyrie to be the number two now
coming off a c l okay, So who's your number two?
Anthony Davis?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
If I get if he's your one, no, no, hold,
gonna be the two behind Giannis.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
If you is what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
What you're saying, I'm saying, if they trade for Giannice,
Joannie would be the number one, and if they just
be number two and Kyrie off a still could be Yeah,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
Understand.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
So you're saying with the trade, with the trade in Dallas, Yeah,
I think he'd be better soon in the West to
win now and Jannis with PJ. Washington and the dogs,
they got down their dogs. I would love that he
fished that pedigree too, bro and Dallas is totally different
from Goddamn and Walkie. That energy gonna be who they'll

(32:47):
be ready to win now. Yeah, that'll be listen. I
would have them winning the West PA. I would have
Dallas winning the West. Yeah, I don't I don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's it's the West is a dog fight.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
If I haven't went in the West, they're gonna be
in a mix. Because anybody gonna get better looking. Look
at look at Minnesota, Minnesota. What you kd go to Houston? Well,
all that movement, I'm it's gonna be a few stars.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Move move and Giannis is gonna kick off the avalanche
of stars relocating, getting fresh up. What's gonna happen with embid?
You know, yeah, we ain't heard nothing from that, right,
if they're.

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Gonna trade him and get this draft pick built around
the draft pick and Maxie, are they gonna or are
they gonna use a draft pick to get better? There's
so many questions that we got. This is gonna be
one of the best playoffs and off seasons, you think so, yeah,
because we're gonna have a lot of adjustments.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
We should do a certified show that keeps up with
that about weekly, you know what I'm saying, just keeping
up with news, breaking news. Just why the somewhere that
steal no games? Right, we know that little period that
we have right before I think right when the finals
done and then we got some of the league, it'll be
a bunch of transactional stuff like that. We should be
some dope.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Draft Knights should be very interesting.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Not even not.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Even that, but the conversations now that's going on, the
conversations that's going on pre uh summer league. And listen
to all the young boys who playing in some league
playing some of league bro people coming to watch y'all play,
not one of two fucking games and all you motherfuckers
who are in the league two three years.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Y'all need to be.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
In summer league sitting in front row like y'all niggas
all stars over here, like, no, gee, we ain't feeling that.
I know you ain't feeling that, but I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Real games and get our workouts.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
All right, you don't really see what the league like
your fella. Yeah, you been listening to un nahun, we
ain't feeling that. I know.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
You know to play about.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
Two games are about thirty minutes. Toot, nobody do that
no more.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
I get you talking about the combine.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
You see how Flag slaughtered.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
He showed up. You know that's rare that an picture?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
So to what time? So just what stop? Pee to?
What time? Stop? Pe stop? Pee stop? You're talking about
this like the one one baseball comebine, Like what you
mean he showed up?

Speaker 2 (34:59):
He played?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
Oh man, come on, he did the drills.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Man stop stop like like that Cooper Flags showed up
at the combine and showed.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Out, Like what you mean? He did the drills, He
showed out. What that mean? He played?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
No man, he showed out. He did the vertical, he
did the sprints, he did all that he did everything.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
We were like killed, he killed, he killed it.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
He didn't come in that coop.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
He didn't come in that coon. You know how something
other don't want to get on there and be a
prima donna. He went in there zero threw a hundred
vertical seventy uh. His his reaction is an old point
something his cat like he getting did it. He went
in there, owed some Yeah, I'm I'm him, what's up?
What's happening me? Yeah? He ain't coming there fucking around.
He came in too impress as you should.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
He put on some weight too. From college to now
the combine they said they paid.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Why they ain't named the m v p ye it's
coming bright they bring that.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
We saw duel last night. Did we see the dude
that do.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Third round when when we get you usually doing second round?
I should they have been doing it after the season
and ship, but you bucking it up. They should just
do it after the.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
We saw the.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Duel last night. Who won as of last night? We
saw Joker and who won it last night? Joker hit
that one shot to tie it, doll. That was nasty,
that one leg three. I don't believe in cole this
is This is the most cold I've ever seen it. Right, Bro,
this listen, this is master class at its best. Bro,

(36:32):
We're not bro Listen, it's gonna be hard. If you
give it to Shade, we win it. But man, we
look back on and see it. Man, if I'm joke,
I'm in here.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
You know.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
He and he balling and and for the first time
we got a player doing everything.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
He's the best league.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
He's coaching, he's GM and he's directed, he's bro man,
the best player in the league. Yeah, man, Yeah he is. Yeah,
Joker is the best player in the league.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Going to quick photos because.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Gotta make this. We're gonna hold on, We're gonna take
just gonna take it like hand. Listen.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I can't sweet for people. But you know, every time
we see the trophy, man, it's always like a lone
lost girl.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
It's always got that that tingling when you see it.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I used to sleep for a long time with the
trophy over my uh dope ass portrait of the trophy
over my over my bed for a long time. And yeah,
and then like the larrer b straight up, I know
all the other sports got their trophies, but yeah, man,
that's special. It's always it's always dope to see that.
Always okay where we're at, you know what I'm saying,

(37:50):
it's always like it's always good money, always nice, sweet morning.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
I mean, I'm just watching the series that last game,
that game five, I'm seeing high level hoops between Denver
and OKC and we still don't know who the MVP is.
I'm thinking, I'm watching it, and I'm watching Minnesota and
what they doing to go to state despite going to state,
dealing with their injuries. I think my observation is, whoever

(38:21):
come out of that series.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Out of the Denver ok It's gonna win it. It's
gonna win the whole thing. Yeah, I think whoever come
out that series is gonna win it. I'm just seeing
what it looks like. Ticket.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
I know what winning basketball look like, and you do
too when you look at it like that, Like, and
Minnesota's cool too, they look cool. But that right there,
that lookd like another level of basketball, though, don't it.
I mean when you look at it, what's your observation
of just them two teams they look like because I said,
this is the last two games they playing, it, look,
this is like a high level of hoops.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
It's high IQ, high IQ, right, man. I think from
the staff, not just one or two players. I think
from the body of players. I think the body of
the coaching, the adjustments you see, the adjustments I'm seeing
on I'm seeing in game adjustments right there, right right
like right there.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
That's what I'm saying, and I'm seeing I'm picking up
all of that. I'm like one of the this this
is what it looked like.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
Players getting better on site.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Man, Aaron Gordon taking this game to another level. Jamaar
Murray showing up.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Yeah, yeah, Shaye looking like Shaye he came through. They
just looked like one of them teams.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
So you think whoever comes out of that is gonna
win the West because that's looking like the most battle
tested series.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
I don't know, man, Minnesota playing with so much different steam,
Yeah it is. You know what I love about Minnesota.
Minnesota got like that eight nine two, They got an
eight nine They do they that nas read that that
Alexander that you know what I'm saying that they gotta
do they do they blow torch over there.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I'm round with the wolves to it.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Yeah, Man, I got to man, because that's showing the
grit bro the grit in the in the in the
kind of mentality you gotta have to go through people
that you respect, the grit in the grind. You gotta
go through the beat teams that's already been there, you
know what I'm saying. But you're going through teams that's
that's battle tested, and you got to go in there
with this mentality of Okay, I respect you, but I

(40:20):
gotta beat you and put you down.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
And they playing with that velocity.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
I know that it's hard to win, right, But like
when we got through that Cleveland series, when we here
we want to take, I felt like it was downhill
the rest of the series. Hell no, I'm just saying
what I felt like. I felt like that was the
hardest series.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
To you.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
You said that because you had the mountain mount Rushmore
right there. You you had the other than cold right,
you had you had the next best thing right in
front of your ass coming down here, five ten, seven
years younger than you, Hungris Funk. So I got you
for you, It got I ain't gonna say it got
easier because Tayshawn was a whole nother you know what,
I'm saying, then it was then you had to then

(41:02):
you have to deal with I forget to get this
foreign kid from whatever. All them up cold, But you
know that was more great cold, knowing you we want
to go cold in the fourth butt? Yeah, no, bro,
what we got bro Detroit Man Detroit. That's all they
had was four five, six bigs that could rotate in.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
And what I'm saying is that right there prepped me
for the rest. You know what I'm saying, that's what easier,
Like that we're going to Detroit, like physically and mentally
prepped me for the rest to where the physical and
the mental wasn't the same. That's what I'm saying. That's

(41:48):
seven games and that.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Nothing was going to get you ready and that other
than mellow or cold.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Right, That's what I'm saying that, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
So I'm thinking, like, whoever come out of this, okay, see,
it's prepping them for the rest, you know what I mean.
Where they got your mind to a level to where
you're like, all right, I know where I need to
be now for the rest of this.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I don't know if I don't know if either one
of these teams is seeing a team like Minnesota steam
like this, but you ain't see it.

Speaker 4 (42:13):
Hold even though they don't see them, they're gonna be
like this, preparing me for that.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
So I don't know if either one of those teams
are playing like how Minnesota's playing like Denver's playing and
they make plays right, Okay, see they come in there,
they making plays right, man, Minnesota is like Conley comes
out Alexander ninety four feet. It's just a different I'm

(42:37):
bringing the energy of what Minnesota is bringing on a
consistent basis against Golden State, and then I'm watching this
high level, high IQ bougie game.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
This boogie is and the motherfucker mother Fuller making.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Plays and that intensity though too. No, no, it's high intensity,
but it's bougie. Ain't no, ain't nobody scrap, ain't no pushing.
It ain't no chippiness you talking about I'm talking about
I'm talking about Denver in Okay. See it's just straight basketball.
It's bro man. They should have man a couple of time,
motherfuckers should have pushed joker like hey man, hey hey man,
say man like it's it's there's some points in this

(43:12):
where it could be chippy. And they're dismissing that. Ain't
nobody got no energy for no chippiness. You understand what
I'm saying. Yeah, everybody's just focused on the B ball.
These other series are having a little bit of everything
in them, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, So
I'm just saying from that Minnesota there, the part of
that DNA is being chippy with you. Hey hey, hey,
hey man hey, be chopping back and forth, using that
his energy turning the ball over, getting you to turn

(43:34):
the ball over. Just ain't none of that right here.
This is just straight up here, let's who ain't no chirp,
We ain't did it that. It's just boomboo, oh wow,
oh wow, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (43:43):
Also, something to note with Minnesota, Julius Randall has really
elevated from the regular season to playoffs. And this was
a guy that was probably going to opt into his
player option, uh just from a money standpoint, Now he
could opt out and sign a four year deal for
a lot more money based on his playoff performance.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
You agree with that he brings and Julius Rando is
bringing the grid that they lacked last.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Year in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
The toughness man.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
He bringing the attitude because the young bull had the attitude,
but he needed a side kick, a backup to fit.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
It's a fit like his.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Like cat was that for him, but it was just
kind of different type of you know what I'm saying,
This is a different type. They both dogs cats a dog,
but this is a different This is like a I
don't know if I compare them to like a Doberman
and a pit you know, like you know what I'm saying,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
You know how you go to your boyhouse, man, You
know how you walk down the street the kool Aid
house and right before h you get the kool a house.
All right, when you get the kool At house, kol
Ad got a gate and then you see the red
nose walk up and you hear it.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
He had a he had a rock with him.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
He had a rock with him. He got he got
one of them shits you got. He got a pressure canary.
Now I got there. He got them for a great
dane two more feet high. Ears looking he's staying on
the gate nine one corso. He got a cane corso,
percy Ca. Lord, you had the walk from Pea house
to the guest house. Now the guest house is from

(45:17):
the wall to you church, and the dog right here
when I'm at and when he's standing up, lord, he
ate one. And I know the dog and the.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
Dog you know me? I think so, And I'm like, Lord,
come get the dog. Lord, Lord, ain't you good? I
ain't good.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
I'm watching how he's looking at me this day. He growled, Lord,
here is little Tell me, Lord, well, come get the dog.
So that's what I'm saying, Julius Randall. That presure right,
he's gonna shoot a couple of jumping with. Guess what
I'm coming down here. I'm going to go through your
chair and to go through your Sternham for the ice
short Sternham. After playing dude, Judas went no doubt and

(46:00):
he go. He keeps it down hell and on yours.
He As. I love him for man because they're on
the same they're on the same bullshit. And everybody else
follows that. He out there.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
I don't need no shape, I don't need no line up. Cool,
I'm out here.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
Cool. Cool.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
That's what it looked like, right. You got that.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
He got the I think he got the snoop sketches
on too. Man, he didn't cut his Yeah, he got
the snoop song out there. Yeah, shout shout to t Wards. Man,
they're playing a different energy.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Man.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
This West is is is crazy like but I don't
This is like I said, this has been exciting though.
I mean, I know the seasons banged up. It's gonna
be hard for him to win without Jason Tatum. But
that Western Conference, I mean, anybody who go, it's gonna
be good, serious like Indiana Nicks, you know, I mean,

(46:56):
I mean the Knicks.

Speaker 1 (46:58):
Indiana Knicks is gonna be on. Indiana Knicks is going
to be off there. There's so much history there. And
guess what, this ain't the regular season Knicks. This ain't
none of that other shit. I don't want to hear.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Oh yeah, all the pieces beat the name there.

Speaker 1 (47:10):
I don't want to hear none of that ship That
shit goes right out the window, big body and everybody
boy that lit the city is lit man, boy, Damn
we can't go to New York.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Damn can Friday? Dang sick?

Speaker 1 (47:24):
Fred called the crew. Bro, We're going to going to
New York, going up there with Fred. You know what
I'm saying, Going to the.

Speaker 3 (47:29):
Heights, next thing I want to ask you about.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
It's just kind of a trend that has been happening
in the playoffs that Live by the three, dive by
the three mindset and like players passing up easy point shots.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
What do you what do you think that is and
why is that happening?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
I mean, if you're asking Paul and I about Live
by the three, Die by the three, peace shot obviously
more threes than I do. But our concept on attacking
win to shoot threes game time, and we got a
whole it's a whole logic in there right that I
don't think we have enough time for. I only think
Lord want to really discuss it like that, But I
will say that I think you take the threes only

(48:02):
to get up to where you get a point, to
where if you're up fifteen twenty, now you driving the ball.
You know why, because you're I'm not selling. And when
I'm not selling, not only if I'm putting files on you,
but I'm putting us in the bonus, I'm getting us
into the line. It's a bunch of demoralizing going on
when you do it like that. And I just think
that at a certain point you have to put not
a stoppage, but a certain level of threes that I'm

(48:24):
gonna take open threes. You never mind those corner threes.
Open threes, you gotta take those, right But when you
coming down, you two feet from half court, you bro,
you got to tighten it up during the playoffs. And
that's all I'm saying. So you know when the threes.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Are like this broll.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I never liked how when you live by the three,
dive out three. I think you use it as a weapon,
but not have it to be used against you.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
I think you got to understand the rhythm of the
three too. Like and what I mean by like because
I didn't been in games to where like we hot
from three, but that's the rhythm of the game. Like
you come down and you miss a couple of threes,
thing like hold on, we it's gonna lay off them
for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
They not on right now even if.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
You open like cause if I missed, like my first
couple of threes in the game, I don't care if
I'm open the next one. I'm not shooting another one
until I get to the back. I want to see
it go in now, easy one free throws. That was
always my concept. You always understood the rhythm of the
three because when it's on, it's on. We didn't have
games like okay, we hot from three and it was
the rhythm of the game on how it was going.
But like when a couple don fall, ain't gonna be no, two, three, four,

(49:27):
five threes in a row. You know what I'm saying.
But that's the way the game is played. Now they
like you open take it, and that's what the coaches
is teaching. Whereas Nahura the coaches we played for, the
coaches we grew up under, from elementary all the way
through like nah that like get the ball to the role,
get to get a high percentage shots like all that
settling that that was considered. You understand our area, the

(49:47):
three was considered kind of weak, like you was weak
if you just shot threes, Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
That was the mindset. That was the lazy Like.

Speaker 4 (49:56):
Yeah, you like get to the rack, Like come on,
don what is you selling? Like you settling?

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Like you tired? Like what is you doing? Like that's
what the three.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Was in our era and it's different now, Like you
know what I'm saying, Get you got the mintion match,
you got the matchup, you won't get to the rack.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
And but like, and it is.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Hard, right, you gotta you gotta be the dude to
get the thing is like everybody take getting to the
rack so easy. Now you gotta have a bag to
get by this motherfucker. And what if he a specialist
at actually stopping a.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Guy like game.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
That's why they don't play ones no more.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
And nobody's steaking the game.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Bro. I say that to say I'm hearing what you're saying.
But it comes a part in the two where you're
just thinking the game and the obvious is are the
obvious is He probably wouldn't have took an open shot
knowing that three four threes, But he also got the
confidence to say that this is the one I hit
in the corner. So you know, no, it's a it's
a it's a thinking game. It's not like boom, hey,
I come down and I'm finna do this. No, I

(50:52):
don't know what I'm gonna do. I'm finna see how
he got this and then I'm gonna adjust to that.
So it's not so cut and dry easy to see
here as a fan and say a B and C. Man,
real time you ever see a motherfucker get hit by something,
you're like, damn, bod, you didn't see the thing. No,
I didn't. And that's how fast these these games are going.
These are real time reactions. And you know, I don't know, man. Yeah,

(51:15):
it's not so much of articulation and understanding no more.
It just it feels like a really robotic of And
that's not it, you know it. Really the game is
a feel and you have to come down and fill
it every time. And if you're going fast one time,
you need to slow down. That's what it is, you
know what I'm saying. But I agree with Paul, it
is a game of feeling. In my observation of the three.

Speaker 4 (51:34):
Also, it's too many threes being taken off the dribble.

Speaker 1 (51:38):
Which is hard, which is hard, y'all know when you're drieling,
then you gotta go set get to it, and this.

Speaker 4 (51:43):
Shit that's hard, Like that's hard and not get it difficult,
but like players got to learn how to use the
three to get to the whole. Like you know what
I'm saying. I used to set my three up. I
hear the three. Now I got you because now on
a swing swing. You gotta come running out at me.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
You got to My philosophy on net was come control.
I'm not running out to you. You're gonna have to
hit it. And then if you ain't that, I make
sure my best ship with us.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
That'll blow you what you're not doing it?

Speaker 1 (52:18):
Yeah, who won't?

Speaker 2 (52:19):
You wouldn't do that. I would if you was if.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
You missed him threes and I came down something.

Speaker 3 (52:23):
He and us.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I wasn't one of that guy. I know that I'm
talking about. You can't tell me what I would do.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
You and coach with the black switch and he kind
of he's not guard, he's not away.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Shoot that ship. But today's game is not built like that.
Today today's game does not They don't trap the post.
They don't value if Paul can actually get matter of fact,
a guy like Joel and Bee can get seven. Look
at Joker Joking gets seven eight dribbles. Man, you know
what seven eight dribbles? A man you post to score
the ball with seven eight drives, seven eight dribbles. Doug Man,

(52:58):
you supposed to be like, man, what are y'all doing?
The guards ain't helping nothing, that means they're valuing the
three ball. So in a sense of where in the
olden days, that's why you see Joker with forty and twenty.
You know what I'm saying, because one the guards are
suposed to when I go to jump hook up big
and say, like me and him touchling. If it goes
over my head, that's supposed to be a guard getting this.

(53:19):
Paul and the guards are supposed to get all this
at the free throw line. If I'm getting the rebound
at the free throw line, guess what that means. Y'all
are garden way too high. Y'all ain't even there for rebounds.
So that's why you see the production of the big
like this from Towns to Joker to whoever has a
big with the presence of doing just right here, no

(53:39):
one's digging. No more digging. Is if I'm in the
post and say me and Paul say we both on defense,
I'm playing. If Paul is right here and my man
catch the ball, Paul supposed to be in this lap
doing all this shit, that's called digging, It ain't no
more of that. Guess what bro in the post. At
the most she probably get four, maybe three dribbles, man,
nigga eight.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Team and then the ref one, the ref is counting
the five.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Bro, he getting nine dribbles. But that's hard on any
post guard. You hear me magic shot getting nine dribbles. Shit,
you hear me nine dribbles your whole man. Listen, you
gotta be like this church and hold him up. Man, Yo, man,
you can't even dabple motherfucker out to the gate, like
what's up? Yeah, I'm dead ass well. The years that

(54:24):
a king won it, right, joker, When they're when they're
double teaming down in the paint, right and the bass
wings two times? Is that a clean open three in
the corner? Paul is saying that if we've came down
and missed that shot five times, he's going to the basket.
He don't care if he has an open three or whatever.
That's all he's saying. And then he's he jabbing a

(54:44):
little bit, saying that if he's in the corner and
I'm running at him, that I wouldn't just run out
there on dress. I'm saying I would come out there
and actually knowing that he trying to set me up
for the You know what I'm saying, I would give
him the three versus the drive, knowing that they that
I missed the Fox five. You know what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying. You know, he's a great He's
a great offensive player. I'm the great defender. So I'm
playing the game too. You know what I'm saying. I

(55:06):
like I was, didn't stop. You know what I'm saying.
And I'm long enough to be out there contest.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
You feel me.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Shout to the ladies, man, the women.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
W n B A season starting knocking. That's gonna be lit.
It's gonna be super lit.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
A lot of good characters, a lot of good Dallas, Dallas, right, yes,
Dallas got the number one picking girls and boys.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
You know what I'm saying. Man, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Man got.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Cowboys, go do church. We just got pickings trading. Shot
to the w n B. A man to the w
n B.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
A man, We're gonna be We're gonna check us out
the games. I'm have some sports

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Games and some link Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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