Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce break down what’s at stake in a crucial Game 3 of the NBA Finals and whether the Pacers can seize control.
They spotlight Rick Carlisle’s coaching brilliance and how strategy is shaping the series.
Plus, the Finals shift to Indy, the Knicks’ coaching search heats up, and Wemby’s monk retreat has everyone talking.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What we waiting on your music to give us. He's
usually coming here with some new, some new spill. This
is what happened to leave the truth flowers that motherfucker
never fly.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And then this nigga got their shirtin time, turning the
doctor love.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Don'tbody want you out? It's Chris brown Ship with niggas
in here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
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you down, j.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You love you come on sinking? Want a motherfucker then
you when a gang bang at twelve at night. Man, God,
damn Master gods Man, stop up, shut it down, Shut
it up. Stop Yeah. Oh oh that's how rough riders.
My right, nigga. We drinking real hard. You know what
(00:52):
I'm saying. You can't drinking.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I can't, Lord, you can't have me sipping on henness
here and be like Chris Tryna and man.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
A cit may come in, you know, Drake coming here
with all this girl.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm sorry, and sitting there here b hard.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We're ringing crayon in here, Lord during the.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Game one right, man, we just got hyped out the
game like chill. You know what I'm saying, Okay, store
down all that hard ship out the window. It's Chris Brown.
Now it's that time of the night.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's that time of the gods.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The girl describe your girl, Grab your girl. Look, get on,
I'm trying tomorrow. I'm trying tomorrow. Yo, I'm trying tomorrow.
This is the last song of the night. Hey, grab
your girl.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm telling you true lamps coming here. You gotta you
got five shows.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah to the hard drive. Man, Oh my god, that's
keep going, keep going. That's getting baby. Certain faster, certain faster,
certain faster, certain faster, certain faster, certain faster, certain fast,
(02:28):
certain faster, certain faster, certain. It's a green summer. Yeah,
we built differently. You ain't watching the games like I'm
watching it again. You'm outside, We're alive. It'sluid. That's when
you stopped production. We know bad, but we want I'm weak. Yeah, here, man,
(02:51):
let's get it. Go ahead, Nate, you already know what
time it is, all right?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So serious, Tide one one? What do we think we're
two games in? Curious just from your guys perspective being
in the finals.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh wait, you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Guys were up, you know after two games? What's that
kind of mindset when you switch cities.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You know what, when you switch cities, at least what
I found to be like a comed denominator, immediately you
feel the energy of being in the backyard or someone,
you know what I'm saying. Like when we was on
we played so when we got to La, you felt it.
So I'm eager to see how I'm eager to see
(03:31):
how okay See actually reacts to the crowd and the energy.
Also in in Indiana. The fan based there, Indiana place
totally different when they're at home. I want to see
how okay See not saying that, Denver not saying that,
the Clippers not saying all these places they've been and
he played the Clippers, they played Memphis went even claim that.
(03:52):
But I'm saying playing in environments where it's hostile, this
might be Indiana. Indiana's gonna be rocking. They're gonna be
solid and home. So I'm eager to see how they
react to that. Until you know what I'm thinking about.
Pete Man Shay still ain't had a bad game.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You can't stop him though. Man, Man, you can't man
put two on the fucking ball. Man. You can't go
to put two on the ball. Man.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So a player in their first two games of the
finals ever most points ever by a above Ai above Jordan.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He doing some hes doing some other ship man. And
it's the midi. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
When't when I talk.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
About Mick Range, he either gonna give you a three,
right because his look, he got so much confidence now
that if you like right, if you like a step
right here, you.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Know, I like fifty in this first game that was
crazy sixty.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You know, his first game hit thirty eight and.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Then the head like one of them games, yeah, forty eight.
The second game, I think game three back in Philly.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Most ever, the most ever in SGA. Game one was
the second most ever and it was.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
The by itself. They one game one. Yeah, I know,
that's what we stepped over.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
A loot in that playoff front.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
His midi is the difference, you know, everybody trying to
get lay up and then try to get the trade.
He takes those midi and those mid rangers are more
tough shots than you think. But yeah, I'm meaning to
see how they react to that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Real shit, I was asking, hey, after two games, kind
of you're leaving the city to a new city. So
for you back in eight, you took care of business,
you're up to oh in Boston and now you're going
to l A like kind of what was that mindset
going on the plane out there and you're like, hey,
we're up too. Oh obviously this is different sin it's
one one, but just kind of switching cities and you're
gonna be there for like I think.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was talking about how how the energy changes when
you get to another city, how you.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Feel like you know, yeah, like for us, Like for me,
it was just like I felt comfortable, like because LA
ain't like some of these places we played in in
the Eastern Conference. Eastern Conference crowds and the Western Conference crowds.
There's two different crowds crazy, you know what I'm saying.
When you gotta go on the when you got to
(06:00):
go to Indiana, I'd have played in all these Toronto
we did have played in hostile environments, so like it ain't.
I can't even think of one Western Conference team that's
crazy than the East Coast. Yeah, like you know what
I'm saying. Crowd wise, maybe Sack back in the day.
Back in the day, though early two thousands, Minnesota was
(06:22):
kind of rowdy.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I remember y'all was rowdy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Feel that yeah, crazy, yeah, But like I didn't feel
that for l A your buts you come off, you're
looking up. It's it's energy, right. I felt like that
was a home game, just like there's just certain arenas
that got that prestige. Staples, Madison Square Garden. You know that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Ain't that?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Don't that don't feel like a super role game to me?
Like going to Indiana or going to Philly. You know
what I'm saying. It's different, different feelings. So like, if
I'm Indiana right now, even though we took an l
in the game two, I'm feeling cool. I think mission
was accomplished. We came over here to get one. We
got one. They said we couldn't get Yeah, they said
(07:12):
we couldn't get one. Man, if I'm Indiana, I'm like
that playing right home, Like I'm dapping. We lost my fifteen,
but Soul sixteen, I'm like, we do what we came
to do. We came here to do. We go home.
There got one. That's all we want now about to
show them what we are, what we owned.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But it's there a point because in game one they
didn't leave the game.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So this is what happened. To us in twenty ten,
we went to LA and stole one, and then I
think we lose game three at home. We lost Game
three at home. That killed the moment, and I was like,
we're not coming back to La. So this is the
same kind of scenario. They gotta protect home now. So
I don't even know who the pressure is really owned.
(07:52):
I don't know if it's on the home team.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It is because you got to defend home, and guess what,
the series don't start to you went on the road, ken, Okay,
see winning Indiana, that's what they got to show right now.
With this team playing on another decil Indiana and the
same team they saw in the regular Sea, this ain't
the same team.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, nim hard.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Everybody is a lot more confident at home. I'm looking
for Indiana to have a big Game three, but I'm
also looking for some respect to be gained from Okay,
see that hold on, We got to get some respect
with y'all.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
One of these games is gonna be a blowout, I think, Man, Indiana,
even though they lost, can they brew them out at home? Minnesota?
Blew them out at home? Game three? Are my correct? Okay?
So again, blew them out blew them out.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
They did, They I don't know, had a good game.
Everybody was on cyllinders. Can they blow them out?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm liking like, even though in DD they can, they
can't blow them out because like, if they don't get
that that forty points from their bench from from Caruso
and and Wiggins Higgins. Wiggins came in and got work man,
he got the word Caruso is since you know what
I'm saying. They need that production off the bench. If
they're not getting that, that's hit or missed for them.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And they tried that double the big lineup, like you said,
they threw that line up and there.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He was on that washing the game.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He was like, yo, why they ain't going through this
big lineup?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Got him go ahead? You want sixty eight games with that?
That's what made him go like this. But that's what
I'm saying. You played all through the playoffs and then
you decide a game one to go away from that. No,
make them adjusted, y'all, y'all, sixty eight wins, y'all the ones,
the steam rolling you need.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Halliburn, though Halliburn got to show up to the dance
every day. He gotta dance. He gotta do thet shot.
He can't show up and do a couple of movies.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Just be in the corner waiting for somebody to step.
You might get in it, you know what I'm saying.
That's time. He might get you that. But you got
to show up and dance, bro, And that's what I have. Especially,
he gotta set a tone. I think he well at home, you.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Got to you gotta go like two for like thirty
shame shot, thirty shots the first first joint, right, he
gotta be on that same cliff. He can't have such
a hijack winning win to one and then have such
a layoff on that set with him.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So Halliburton thirteen shot attempts in both games came one
in game two. Yeah, like this the defensive oc allowing
him to I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Even sure if it's the defense because he got the ball.
He got the ball. Yes, what I'm saying this whole
time of defense, you know what I'm saying. Just like I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Anticipating in having him having a really good Game three
because he gonna see all those holes and the stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He has stuff that he can do. But I didn't
think he was so initiative, like he was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
In game one, so I'm looking for him in game
three to be very aggressive early he turned the ball over.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He was doing he was doing stuff that. Yeah, you remember,
he was doing stuff that I ain't never seen him do.
I know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But he don't have manny and take risks with having
a small with four people under him, you know what
I'm saying stuff like that. I was just watching that
Sam didn't have no super He usually got off you
know when he gets off really really fast, so it
has a quick start that she tends to prepare them.
They had that under control. So I'm looking for both
teams and seeing how they adjust because these adjustments right
(10:51):
here is going to prepare the momentum. Whoever win Game
three should have the momentum to take both games.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
To me, but I'm looking too, like I'm looking at
like this post be a strong defense man. I looked
at the second half Indiana from Indiana, Indiana scores thirty
and the third thirty plus in the fourth, like their
second runs come in the second half. Yeah, they gotta
get off the better start now. Okay, see then too,
(11:17):
they also scored thirty, So that's showing me that Indiana
can score on this defense, they beat them. That's what
I'm saying. They can score on this defense. They gotta
be able to get stops. Hold on, hold on, before
you say this. You know another thing. I don't think
we actually are given credit to this whole thing. The
fucking coaching, bro.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
This is probably some of the best coaching we've seen
in the finals. Just think about that adjustments each team
is making with players.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh no, don't like you.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I wish I could watch the chess board and the
two coaches of an animated version of this church and
then just using peace let me take check out put
you Okay, you did that, and this is this Okay,
I got home alone for that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, your word. But it is a
chess matchup. This moves versus moves, versus player versus.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, we're gonna do this. Okay, We're gonna go big
on you. Okay, we're gonna go small on you. Right, Okay,
this my three This is my three point Okay, two
minutes of defense out here just in case, so everybody
who can get a steal you feel me like, I
love how the adjustments in this match looks. And it's
in real time. You're getting adjustments in real time, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I still I still like Indiana in six Yeah,
I think I think at home because this tea. Okay,
see it's good. But they're young. They gonna go into
an environment that they ain't seen in the Western Conference.
They gonna go into Indiana. Dog, I'm telling you, I
didn't play it in a few playoff series in Indiana's
the place rough in there? Like you know, it's rough
(12:44):
in there, Like I'm telling you, I didn't played it
in a few series in there. And they crowd is
it's roughing. That's not a real NBA crowd. It's a
couple of places you go and you can hear the
crowd in a certain place you go. You feel, you
feel when it's when it's you feel in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Like they wherever they go in Indiana, they gonna know
theyre in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They ain't no much going out going somewhere. Bus boys.
They three the three rowdiest places in the Eastern Conference.
Indiana is one of them. Indiana, Philly, Toronto, Toronto. I
got New York and now man Toronto crowd is sick taking. Yeah,
we put the Toronto. They was outside. You know, we
(13:34):
go down the thing, they was right there. I'm talking about.
It was a sea of them man like. Man, I
was looking like they was pushing on man. I was like, damn,
tops up. And then they seen the national Man that
crowd was sick or that they have the crowd. They
(13:54):
can't putting the camera on the outside that it was
like thousands of people outside. Was like, all right, nervous,
this is different. That was different. Philly might just whoop
your ass. You can't go in there with no Boston jersey.
They just might you might get jumped. My cousin went
there early when we played it early. He had to
(14:15):
take his jersey off. No, they was they was going
to check you. Man. He had to take his jersey
off leaving the arena. I had to get out of here.
You know, I'm telling you this is like O to
have to get out of the thick man. It was sick. Bro.
He was like, they're about to jump me.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I'm telling you, man, you go some of these some
of these towns, man, like, I'm dead ass man. It's
like it's like it's like soccer culture, man, Like the
teams are like so much. Yeah, like bro like all
these small towns like sack Utah, they got a team
and that's all they know.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, you know what city need a team? Kansas City.
If Kansas City get a team, that crowd yeah something
like that, something like yeah, well they like right there.
We love basket they do. They do straight up. And
I don't know why Kansas don't have a team no more.
Like you see it. How you see how the Chiefs is.
You see how the go take it the k Yeah,
(15:15):
J Hawk ca you.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I want to go back to coaching.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
We got it right.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Rick Carlisle, he's the coach that is was with the
Pacers and now he's back. Some people say the twenty
eleven run that he had with the Dallas Mavericks is
one of the best playoff runs in recent memory. And
this one we look at this one, you know, beating
the Bucks, kind of upsetting the Cabs, beating the Knicks
and now winning Game one of the finals. What's kind
of your assessment is just Rick Carlisle as a head
(15:52):
coach because a lot of the big young coach young
coaches are kind of taking over in some degree in
the NBA, and this is a guy that's been a
head coach for twenty five years now.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The point that good point. He don't get his due
and get us do it. And he's so unorthodox, and
you know it's crazy. Paul made a great point yesterday.
He's watching the game and he said, you know what
I'm noticing, man, there are no switches. They went back
to a traditional basketball way of getting and sliding through picks.
(16:20):
And we was watching the game and for about four
to seven minutes we were watching a component of traditional
basketball on both sides and then need to jump back
into where we are now. Yeah, and we was watching
this or orthodox, going back and forth, and I's like, Bro.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You seeing this right? And it was to his genius.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It actually made the game like conducive to watch because
we was watching them hert slide through and I was like, dat,
he just slide through that shag. He's like, man, he's
going through, Bro. So he So it's like I was
alluding too earlier. Man, Bro is making both coaches. I
think both coaches are pushing each other to be better
and everything, and against his dude, Man, he's one probably
(16:59):
the more traditional coaches that has made the wave and
jumped the wave. You know, he wasn't so big on
his way. I think his way has evolved in all
of this, and that's growth.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Man. Shout to Rick Man.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He don't really get a lot to do, man, But
I think as you win and as you be successful, man,
the ship speaks for himself. So shot to Rick carl
out man number thirty four for the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Or Jim Carrey looking at gets it done? Real ship?
Ain't good people? Good people? You know he wore that,
he wore thirty four for them when he played Celtics. Yeah,
that's all coming with me, right, we had you know,
we had the list. I think I have had the list.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You walk with five right, Think about Boston, man, when
you get your jersey in your locker.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You see the ones who wore before you. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. I agree with you. He don't
get his due for sure. I mean he didn't broke
He helped build up that Detroit team or before they
want to find those right and obviously what he did
for Dallas. I thought, you know, before Doc, they was
trying to get him the coast the Celtics before Doc came. Yeah,
(18:09):
he was on he was on the short list. I
remember that uh to come to the Celtics. I always
had a good admiration for him in this style, I
mean his demeanor, because he's adjusted. He's what he has done.
He's evolved. You know, he ain't. You know, all these
older coaches, they just don't know the coast the new
He evolved to this because the style he had in
(18:30):
Dallas is completely different than the style he played in Indiana.
Whereas coaches be so stubborn and like this is the
way we're gonna play. Like you see that with Timms.
Tims gotta evolve, you know what I'm saying. And that's
how you adjust to this new this new generation. You
gotta evolve with your talent. You can't just say it's
your way to the highway. And and I think that's
what I'm seeing from Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Done a great job of that middle ground. Yeah, and
he still gets the players to play hard. Yeah, I'm saying,
so you know, shut out the wreck.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Speaking of the Pacers, Game one twenty four turnovers, Game
two fifteen turnovers, is that an area of concern for
you guys? There are averaging twenty turnovers a game through.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Two games to play Oh yeah, you can't turn the
ball over against the team, like, okay, see, they then
okay see turns that into points, you know what I'm saying,
Like like what we're seeing too. H Indiana had nineteen
turnovers in the first half, but had like four or
five players that were playing unbelievable gob talk.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
They had like five or six threes. Siakam had a
quick start home alone, came in and got money. Like
it was just it was it was just going, you
know what I'm saying. The Smith was already going. So
I think it kind of balanced the turnovers because they
were shooting and scoring at a high clip right first game.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, but they made threes and then they didn't turn
the ball over second half after that, and okay, s
didn't capitalize on the turnovers because they I think they
turned over like twenty five times. But okay, so you
don't need when you turn somebody over twenty five times
to blow them out. You're supposed to be up.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Thirty, supposed to be up three thirty forty. It's not
even suposed to be close.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, and they only got eleven points out of that.
But they didn't play well either.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
To me, I didn't think that they turned those capitalized
on none of those turnover.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's that's what I'm saying. They didn't capitalize on it.
That's why they was in the game down twelve after half.
First game. They gotta cut They gotta cut their turnovers
down though, because uh Indiana's been one of the lowest
turnover teams all season, all playoffs until now. I think
they only average like thirteen turnovers. You that's me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You gotta also turn off the shape. You gotta you
gotta address the shape problem. You gotta address the shape problem, Pete,
like you on some real talk. You you can't keep
coming here.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
That Nick get thirty five, thirty thirty like like it
looks like, Okay, we're gonna let you do this. But
then check come in here and he got he got
nine damn near in eleven minutes. He got. He finishes
with whatever he finished. But that momentum, you know, I
think you gotta control man. I think got a pick
and control it. This is what I think I think
(20:56):
you can afford for he had to go off. You
can't let these other cats going. And I noticed in
game two he's made a concentrated effort to get everybody
all that he's making like four minutes he was making
the X That's what I'm saying. He was making out
and that was noticeable. Purpose watching out, it was like
(21:17):
trying to get him going to that because you know
he can get his off. So you can't let guys
like Cruiso go out there and get the check. You're like,
you can't let Wiggins come out here and give you
all the twenty piece. Like I told you alone, we
wanted to take one. You was like, who is will
you like? Man? He like a six eight shay I
(21:38):
told you yeah, he nice. Yeah. But listen, boy, you
hear me. Boy, the Pacers coming.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Boy this I'm eager to see the Pacers at home
in the finals.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah boy, yeah, it ain't be. It ain't been back
there since Code told him to calm down and hey, man,
y'all sit you down. You know it's gonna be crazy
outside arena.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Man, Man, did y'all see the Eastern Conference finals and
what they look like after the show. They don't want
to lead, man, I can't wait to see them just
the But what's the thing? The little the droid top
shot of them drones outside of.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The Pacers arena right before the game. You got an
outdoor joint yet.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
A little bit most fan base is now built. Some
areas got to call it something though, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Saying, that's gonna be harder to do that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
All Right, We're two games in. We talked last week
before the series started about X factors. Who do you
feel like has been the biggest X factor from either team.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Biggest X factory, biggest X factor in both teams. Well,
I think the obvious for Okay se Is is Alice Caruso.
I mean, he been consistent, giving you solid defense, knocking
down shots, and just he's like a utility man. You
just plug and play him anywhere. Yeah, go guard him
all right? Right now go to the pope. Yeah yeah, shoot,
(23:02):
go in the corner, shoot the corner. Three. I mean,
he's just doing everything for them, bring the ball up
for real.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I looked at the hair Kaso and s g A
and Caruso and then Katesho was getting some pressure.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Shae was like, nah, I don't want it, dude, nim
hall ain't nothing. Crusho was like, I was like, dude,
they got the three lord? Yeah, Lord, I see exactly
what you said and everything. Yeah. And then so for
uh Indiana for Indiana, I think it's gotta be uh.
(23:35):
I think nim uhnise Smith got to step up. Damn
thee Smith got to step up. He gotta knock down
some shots, like because when I seen him go off
in New York in the Game one, like he shown
me he capable of knocking down shots like that. I
think he needs to be more consistent with his shot
because he getting a lot of open looks. I'm like, man,
(23:57):
you know you gotta knock those down. And so I
think he got to be the X fact because when
he go off, when he gets you that dub dub five,
he gotta have a game like that. He gotta have
a game like that, especially at home. So you so
in New York. Yeah, and I ain't seen him since.
I ain't seen him since that was some I don't
want to call no flu ship. But didn't he something? Yeah,
(24:21):
but he gotta. We're trying to we're trying to come
back type ship. You trying to you want him to
do that, like like like he gotta give me.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That game in Game one.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You can't put that. I mean, bro, yeah, I mean
he's been solid. He's been solid. He's solid like, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Saying getting money. You call him the X factor in
that ship. Well, listen what you're saying. You call him
the X factor that ship.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
He's only average twelve in the final stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he had TN yesterday he had fourteen
ysame one. That's solid though, I'll take that from him. Well,
the X factor has got to be the It's got
to be Halla Burton. He's the X Factor. I'm saying, like,
you gotta play like you're the star and the X factor.
Packs I was gonna say the same thing, right, you're
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the star and the X factor, bro, Like we need
you to step up, Like you can't just give me
twelve fourteen, you got I need to be seeing twenty
fives and twelves and thirty like you gotta really come
with it on both sides of the ball, you know
what I'm saying. It's all on him. He gotta be aggressive.
He's not taking his shots in the first half and
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then you decide to turn on second that you can't
use that formula. That shit is gonna work run out.
You gotta come out and set the tone early early.
So yeah, he my X factor even though he the star,
No No. I know it's it's kind of weird to say,
but it really is right. That's it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I was gonna listen to me. Okay, see check check holme.
When he plays how he played Game two, it's hard
to beat them. He's active, blocking shots, rebound, second shot,
moving the balls. He was aggressive with his own bag.
You know, he was agressing with his own Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Man, check.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And then I was gonna say, Halliburt, Halliburny gotta show up.
You know when halliburn shows up to the party, does
this thing whatever, you know, whatever he's doing, whether his
break dances, pop lock, and he always shut it down,
you know what I'm saying. So we show up to
the dance and get off eating and then the nigga
gota come in the like O Zone this tongue. You
gotta come in there with that you you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You gotta come in there O Zone energy. Game three.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I'm looking for the pop rock and that the nun
touching it, and I'm looking for all that that that
the breaking one.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
O Zone energy from Aliburton. Man we here showing Okay,
man almost.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Maybe going to the same Okay, yeah, we need that
o Z one Halle Burton, what the Halle all burden?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You know what I'm saying, right man, listen? Then the
other thing to be joking?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
What the fighters ain't Mint in Indiana said, ships about.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
To be It's about to be cracking, probably the most
important game in their franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Straight up. And this is it, bro, this is it?
So yeah, yeah, this is this is gonna be an
electric game three man.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Game three Wednesday. Will do game picks later, but I
want to know if you guys saw the photo of
Wendy and China.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, I saw that. I saw that ball He's at
the shame retreat. He went to a monk retreat and
uh yeah, he went. He went. He went with the monks.
He did he did what you do. The monks got
a ball head. He went ball ahead. He's serious, that's serious.
He coming with it. He's like, all right, I'm off
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this little pretty boy ship. I'm on this. When you
see that? What you what's that saying to you? I said,
I'm locked in. I'm locking in. Remember, I mean you
like he locked in? I like that he off the curls,
all that light skinned ship. He like, I'm locked in.
He ain't darker man. He ball headed though. That ball
head is different. But when you go from the pretty head,
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pretty hair to the bald head you, I don't care
about all this bald head. I don't care what y'all
thinking out here, might swing on you. That's what he might.
That's what he That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Lad that looked like that?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Did that looked like? I'm locked in because you know
you don't. You don't. Light skinned cats don't like cutting
their hair like that. They don't. I don't know tell
us they don't. I don't know. I'm just I'm just
based off of cats. I know they don't like cutting
that little pretty boy hair. He cut it off like
oh yeah, that little juicy Yeah, they don't like cutting that.
They don't even like you touching it. He's like, dat
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be ready to scrap over that man hair though, Like then,
what you put your juices and berry I'm want to
see the juices and berries like that, what you're putting. No,
you're not touching a man's hair asking that like what
you're putting your hair? Juices and berries? That's why, Matt, Yeah,
you can't touch that heir boy, he read to scrap Matt.
Matt was an angry, light skinned nigga early. You know
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what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. That's how
they was. You know, he can't touch their hair, boy,
and they not going bad right that ship kind of
like a kind of situation saying ball and he coming
back says, nah, he coming back saying, I'm telling you
that's a sign right there, monks, ball ahead all that.
So that's a flag that you gotta pay attention to that.
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We gotta pay attention to that one hundred. Okay, what
do you think taking I didn't know what to think.
I didn't know what was going on. I didn't know
if he was doing a commercial. I ain't know if
he was a commercial promotional or something. I ain't no,
you know, just ain't this.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You don't know how players going to the shower land,
you know what I'm saying, to work on whatever they're
working on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So you know, for him to go up, remember, did
you ever watch uh was it kill Bill? No? Let
me ask you something when she went up the didn't
she go to the monks to ask you something?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Didn't she go to the Monks and ask you something.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Would you go train yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Would you go train with something outside of basketball to
better your basketball?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah? I think it can help.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Like I've done soccer, I've done soccer drills, I've done
tennis drills, I've done tennis reaction drills. All that to
make me. I did ballet balancing, believe it or not,
because when you go for the ball out out of bounds,
you got to have a balance or a motherfucker got
you on the PA.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Tell you this, if I got you picked to.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
The out out the outbalance, I can pin a certain
way to where you got to have certain cord and
balance to bring yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Back here and all that.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
All that is something else that's outside of the ram
of basketball.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
What drew you to that? Like, what made you make
that decision to do those things you just mentioned?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
If I'm being honest, man, I used to step outside
of the box of basketball all the time. I used to,
you know, when I started like really taking trainings like
to another level to where I wanted my slide to
be a certain way. I wanted to be able to
open a certain way if it was paul I wanted
to be able to slide it some way for Steve
Nash or small guard.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I wanted to be able to So I had.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
To do a bunch of agility drills in the sand,
and then I'm training like this, like I'm training the
like really put you in the dirt for four minutes
and if you can't handle this four minutes, acting the
damn money.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So I trained like that.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
So when I get in the game and we switched,
I'll clap it because I already know I already been here,
be folks. So when you saw me getting down on
steveen ass and I hit him on the air, like
yeah me give me that shit, I won't the old
I was.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I had already been.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
There, But I trained for that, and I'll have been
looking at things like Bruce Lee doing you know longevity stuff.
I used to watch when Cap had great balance and
he would take the one leg this thing he used
to hold two point fifty two seventy three hundred pounds
of one arm and put the So when you go
through all that, those things step outside of basketball, but
those things actually helped. I remember working with Gianni's he
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told me that he started using some karate style stuff.
Tong Kwan does stuff for breathing exercises to help them
in the game. You know, you get in those moments poise,
having a breath, p being cool, even killed that all
that goes into it. And don't nobody teach you that.
You got to actually go and try to actually chase
that yourself, just to be better.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The two things that help me was I was doing
some yoga, but then I got back into playing chess.
Oh yeah, that's just like I swear, I swear to
it helps you on the court because it's like your
thought process changed when you consistently playing chess and then
you go on into sports. I started seeing the game different,
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like I started seeing things before they happen, Like I swear,
that's how my my my mental started coming. I was like, damn,
Like I swear to you, though, if you ever get
in the chests and you start doing ship in the sports,
you're gonna start thinking that that's your pattern of thinking now.
So I'm like, all right, if I do this, systems
gonna happen if he do. Like I'm starting, I'm seeing
it happen before it happened, and it really helped my
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game mature. And ship. I swear to you, I can't
even explain it, but one of the biggest things people
don't talk to you about or tell you about and
things that come with the game is small things breathing
with shooters.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
When they teach long distance shooters to shoot, the first
thing they go over is breathing. Exercises to calm your
to calm your post, to calm your hands, your steadiness.
Drivers the same thing when they go up in high speed.
They have to keep a certain level of calm to
baby to you know what I'm saying, And I hate
to say this, but basketball nobody taught this man how
to stay calm. And you know what I'm saying, You
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need the cool or you're not.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I swear to.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
God him, Joe Johnson, motherfuckers. I just seem naturally walk
around like this and just have a nice balance to
be able to be in hot stay on. Owens pill
still be over there, everybody like shit, man, we gotta hey, look.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Eighty niggas talking and ship. He might be sitting back
watching everybody just like that man over the.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Man like just like lord, lord this, how I knew
you hit the shot or you was finna get a
nigga ass.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Lord, fix my head man. You're making me sound like
that's how you sound. I don't sound like, Lord, I
love you.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
He had a couple of voices that certain voices. I
knew what time it was, Johnny Joe. I don't know
what Blair. That's the ship. I ain't got nothing for
y'all to night.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'm out. You know what I'm saying. I ain't got
nothing for y'all. You hear this one. That's the first
time that we got action. If you sit out, he's
stupid up. Okay, that's the voice that means you might
get that joke. Don't let me get down. Red bull
in the head man, you're gonna put it out here.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
There's gonna be so much ship going on. You ain't
gonna hear nothing all of a sudden. You just gonna
see the left hand grab. You're gonna hear the oh
the blue.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Boy pop, you know, sudden.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
And then he gonna bring the right hand and bring
the headband around here, and then you.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Ain't gonna see him. And then this ain't no hit
the head Uh, it's the stupid his here. He's stupid
hit that bitch. About seven seconds drippling let for togeting
now man.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Stupid, I don't care where y'all at, y'all saying well church,
y'all somewhere.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And you hear Pete and that voice exa, how it's
gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Church, Nate afraid everybody gonna be waiting, everybody gonna be waiting.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, Pete, Man, it's coming of packed. I don't know
we can get in here. Hold on, man, hold on,
here we go y'all in.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm telling you, if you ever hear that little voice
come out, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's the I ain't going her church. No, that's the odd. No,
there ain't nothing church till if I'm good, I ain't going.
That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Oh yeah, fished ahead man in the red boy and
and the team sucker they't go right there, right and
get him a red bull dial She is right, yo said,
Look that's crazy, dog all right.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Next thing I want to ask you about we just
missed this last week when we take but Tims is
out of New York.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Uh, he shouldn't have gotten what what you mean?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Fred? You good? He shouldn't have got good on? Fred?
Ain't good?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Dog, Fred ain't good. You know, New York we called
that though. Dog It's time, dog, Yeah, it's time Tim.
Tim Style ain't gonna make the new wave. It ain't
gonna jump to twenty five. It should have stopped at
two twenty two. Real ship, Yeah, because they ain't nobody.
That's the farthest they win. Huh, that's the farthest they win.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
You know. He took them to the Congress Final.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Back to back fifty one seasons two, but they get
rid of him. Kind of the rumor is that they
want to get a current head coach, So Jason Kidd's
been floated around, you know, Doka, Chris Finch, Jay Right
just retired. He says he wants to stay retired. He
doesn't want to coach in the end. Yeah ooh, the
(37:07):
but he says, he says he's not interested.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I love Jay Wright, but I wouldn't take that job.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
So curiously from you guys, you think they probably a
current head coach or kind of who do you think
is next to?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Kind of damn who you like that? I like them?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Mark Jackson and Mark Jackson enjoyed that habit cracking Mark Jackson, real.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Dude, you know what I'm saying New York need some
New York need some some What Mark Jackson in the garden,
who's from New York, Queen? I mean, I get it,
and I like you.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I like that man of him in Golden State if
from being one hundred, But would.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You be worried about a guy that hasn't coached in
eleven years?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
So let me say something to you. Nothing better and
nothing better of a story than somebody that came from
where you from. This would be like d Rose going
back coaching the bulls Man. He can't no exemplify New
York basketball better than Mark Jackson be one of them.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You know what I'm saying. That's like, that's like a
that's like a that's like a bedtime story from rout
Patrick Ewing, then Patriort. I wouldn't. I don't know. He's
a better coach than in Mark Jackson. That's why he coaches.
You know, he's been coaching in college. He didn't pay
this dude, who.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
You taking Mark Jackson or you and the coach this
Nick team though, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Uh, that's what I'm saying. So if you go be that,
I mean, Mark got NBA experience what I'm saying. I mean,
I wouldn't both of them. They can be on the
start together, absolutely, and I love that too. And it's
and it sends a different message. And nobody's diffified that
nick basketball than them two. The one that actually is
from this month. You know what I'm saying. That's just
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another line. Sam Cassell Oh, I like that too.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
He's tapped the former teammate of yours is a great
basketball minds Uh, just vote out there potentially.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Who I don't want that to be rondo first job.
That's Rondo first job.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Every time to go to New York. But I'm just
floating out there.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Not for his first job. You tell me they gave
JJ sh JJ did that lakership ship? Why not? Why
not JJ did the Lakers ship? You could do? Man?
What about me? Let me be a tough job from
ano first job?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Do I feel that? But Sam will be great for
any young young bro. I love Sam. He got he
got a he got a thing on the post on
how to you know, get young boys today and how
to get him to respond and develop those young guys.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Man, they said, J kid damn, where that comes from?
Ain't j J K ain't with the Mags. No, Mom,
I'm not leaving that Dallas job.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
When Dallas another New Yorker that just lost his head
coaching gig Michael, I think.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's that's a lateral man, Mike Malone and he got
he got cat up, but that's a lateral move. I
think he got the same type of stylist, Tims.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Would you agree that this is a the most attractive
job but be the most pressure job in the n.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
B A both, but you invite Listen, let me tell
you something. Pressure is a privilege. My friend, you that
nigga and you want to be that nigga, and you
put you in positions there. Okay, here you go. Okay, Pete,
you say you want a one on one top of
the key nigga. What you're gonna do? And then cold
blood shut up? Get my table ready? So what I'm saying,
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you want to be in the joint? Okay, here you go.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
They got roster deficiencies though it ain't it ain't even
a coaching for me. They need, they need, they need,
they need. Somebody just told you, like it don't matter
who you bring in. I don't care who you bring in.
You can bring back red arbar Phil Jackson and that's
that like like that that roster maxed out. Yeah, you
gotta do something to roster that roster maxed out.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You said, this man, in two years, the waves already changed.
Remember when Joker was doing all the joker in and
you had to go get a joke or having an
embad or have.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
A Davis or have an antheony Towns or some shit.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
You remember that that's done. Now now we're in the
tips where you gotta have non You get them. They
gotta have eleven twelve because if nine ten you're fucked up.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Somebody got Slider in there. So you gotta have a limb.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You gotta have signed lamb, like they sit down, Hey,
oh hard lamb.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Real talk, Like if you ain't gotta leave them to
get out here, bro, you can't even be out here.
They're gonna burn through your whole eight Sealm McBride, go
off the bitch McBride, Robinson and and and I don't
even know. They ain't even got them off for the right.
As soon as they burned through broom, you ain't even
got nothing to go to. So I went Pete man,
you got to deepen your roster. Man, it's already two
(41:31):
years now and you already got to this is the
wave now.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
If you were J Kid, though, would you try to
push to move to the next year. Would you say,
in the situation knowing you have the number one pick.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Coming, you got the number one pick coming, I'm staying
in Dallas. What I mean, they gotta make me offer
I can't refuse, But I think Dallas living in New
York living is two different things when they're starting to
get older and coaching it. Just if I'm J Kid,
I'm not leaving the number one pig.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I gotta got a great situation. Great situation got pieces
down in Dallas to be that. Yeah, you can make
a move straight up if you need to. I just
like the situation there than I do in the Eastern Conference.
And don't nobody want to come from something that's a
certain situation to an uncertain situation. Yeah, you got a
lot of uncertainty that they just got to not only
were about the coach, but then once that coach come in,
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he got an organized wick upstairs.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
But what's this roster gonna look like?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
So you would say, hey, go through the drafts, get
some guys in free agency and then figure out who
you should get as a head coach.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
When you know if you can get your coach before
you get to the draft.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
You got to get your coach. You got your coach,
got to organize you right now, like right now.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
So they need to make a call in the next
two week.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Two weeks. I wish I would say this coming up
in a couple of weeks, Hell yeah, hell yeah, right,
you got to have it before summerly, bro.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Next thing we want to ask about, speaking of the
Dallas Mavericks, You're scheduled a private visit with no potential
number one pick, Cooper Flag. They're not talking to anyone
else or working out anyone else, so it looks all
signs pointing to that they're drafting Cooper Flag. I'm curious
from you guys, just being in the league. Was there
a number one pick coming into the league that you
were kind of looking at like, hey, you know, I've
heard a lot of buzz about this guy. Let's see
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how he does. Was there somebody were excited to see
play in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
All of them? Oh, when we were already in the league.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
You were already in the league and a number one
pick was coming in. Who was that guy? You were like, hey,
let's see.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
What Oh I think for me, probably Lebron okay, because
it was even though Bees weren't number one, Michael Beasley
was having such a fucking.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Crazy like he was sixteen. He was six eleven, but
he was really six nine, six steps, six eight whatever.
But how he was playing, I was I wanted to
see Bees, Mike Bees and how that looked. You know,
I'm sitting up and close, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
And then you know, because I was seeing him play
with another energy in college that I think all of
us wanted to see how that, how that transcended to
the league.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, he was the number two pick. Derrek Rose was
the number.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
One that year.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, familiar with Bron and and KD Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I think from me he was number two, KD Dwight.
When Dwight was up to come.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Into the league, people wanted to, you know, I wanted
to see how how he would transcend to the league.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
And then Broun.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You know, Bron had so much height and then you
seeing it on tape and I think when I heard
d Miles say what he said, it was like, you know,
at the time, we all had hadn't seen nobody come
into the league and have real impact as a rookie
coming from high school, you know what I'm saying, Like,
uh so he was just on some like yeah, we're
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gonna you know, he was going off his experience, like, man,
you can't come in here to impact this with the
kind of players that's in the league, you know what
I'm saying. So he was speaking from his perspective, not
knowing you know, what Bron was or whatever.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
So, yeah, I think Bron.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Had the probably the most just because he was he
was followed the most. I think we saw Bro go
to high school, pop out on the after in the
in the in the Hummer, going to school in the Fair.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
We was all.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Like, yeah, so yeah, Brown was probably the most hyped
out of all of those two. So we was all
anticipating to see what it looked like.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You know, Adam Silver recently was on Fox Sports and
he said that the All Star Game might pivot to
a USA versus World concept. The details aren't completely ironed
out yet, but curre's how you guys feel. Seeing how
the last All Star was a fourteen thing and there
wasn't a lot of excitement. But next year, how would
you feel about a US first world concept?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
So I actually think that this game is being set
up to go to Paris at some point. I think
we're gonna try to do the All Star Game abroad,
and I don't think that you can do that without
highlighting some of your international assets. So when I watch
a game like this, this, I mean, do the world
(45:49):
really won't smoke? People think the world won't smoke.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
It's gonna rob a lot of players who deserve to
be an All Star game. It's gonna have a bunch
of players that's foreign. So the way it.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Breaks down, seventy percent of the NBA is US players
and thirty percent is international. So to your point, a
lot of that, you know, some USA all starts with
suffer because of that.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Well, I think I think the perception is most people
think the world is better than some of the American players.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I think that's what everybody think. I think everybody think
that Wenby.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
And Joker and who John is, they think they better
than Tatum and line them up, Line line up, I
want to find out.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Line up.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Told you man, once man, we can clean all man,
we can clear all this up.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Listen, man, shout to Mike Beasley, Lance boring. Ready, you
know what I'm saying. A man shout to them too, because.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
They had a one on one beef and they settled
it one on one.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Right, you feel me? Bro? If you ever want.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
To solvet sod hey man, look amen, check check it
up speaking solve this right now?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
You think you ready?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Man, listen, world, let me tell y'all something, man. Don't
ever forget who was on your wall and who you
looked up to to get here.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, you're playing well, you got your head shaved, y'all.
Look good, y'all playing, y'all gonna be the future. Yeah,
but we're talking.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
On right now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
We're talking about right now, man, we're talking about right now.
Strap up scratch as you say. Where I'm from, you
want some smoke scratch and if you know what that
If you don't know what that mean, go look it up.
Go to the ag say hey man, what scratch mean?
A big fellow is telling you to get up on
the line. Check, check up.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Check. Let's play twenty one. Let's go back to play
twenty one Pete.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah right, we ain't got to do all this ones.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
The fans want something.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Let's play ones, right, Because then what happened? What happens
when one side blue sells?
Speaker 1 (47:54):
What happens? Then?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
What?
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Because the world, I'll just say, the last seven m
vps have not come from America. I got the world.
I feel like I'm not doing pretty good.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I got it there. You're excited, got world, I got you,
I got you.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Show up there, Nate, show up. You're gonna be let down.
Nate Havel Women come to.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
U c l A.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
If he can go to the Chile Chilen temples, he
can make it to U c l A. Have him
come over here. Check some of the sentence you over here. Yeah,
take him down slots down there, you know, check out
the marathon. Get him a marathon burger or something. Get
him a marathon burger. Take them off to Oakland. You
know what I'm saying. Right, Let JR. Rod show him
around in some couple of spots. You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying, getting right, you know what
(48:40):
I'm saying. Real ship man, he gott tapped into some
to some here. You know what I'm saying, I get it.
Everybody going there other place to get something. Guess what
got to come to the meccad of get somebody.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
It ain't no skill skill like the problem here. You
know what I'm saying, right right, heart right, you understand that. Yeah,
you see everybody here understand what I said without saying
you understand that's what I'm saying. Everybody going to all
these farn places to get this need to be coming.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
To the wax, coming to the wax find out, right,
you gotta come to the wax man.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
So you're saying, scrap all this and let's just have.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
A I'm saying that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Because that's what I'd rather see the ones in that
world stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Bro, Because what's gonna happen is the world ain't deep
enough to have an all star team. Yeah, y'all got
some stars that's international, but all them, Yeah for sure.
After after you go Luca, Joannis Joker, Shae so already
(49:52):
said Greek Greek was in the first too.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
I get it. A b U s that sh start
getting one of my guys. All that's shaky, bro. All
that listen the first three fus my boy name in
Orlando who on one of the keep going, then they
(50:22):
gonna go. I got the world Church. I know you
are you from sack. You're gonna jump ship anyway.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Right, bring your cow bell with you too, beating gone right.
Y'll keep y'all, keep y'all, keep on. Man.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I heard Katie said the best man Man, what huh?
Speaker 1 (50:38):
You know? But let's get it.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
I think everybody want to see it, So I think
if you got something there, Yeah I didn't get it,
but that don't And then.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
I don't think that does disservice to.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
The American fans if you take the All Star Game
and take it at the National you know what I'm saying,
you know, but yeah, let's see, let's get it.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Let's see some game picks.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Let's get some game picks. Baby. Yeah. When I'm at man,
I'm up. I'm down left from round right, still the
worst ship ever man. Next year, we put it in
the contract.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Man. When you lose a bent man, you gotta pay
up before the next show.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
We don't mean take it.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
You're still up and you have still I'm mill you
got still ain't got.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
This series got to count for like you mean no,
I don't be trying to do that. I mean win, Like,
get the funk out of here. Man, I'm taking the
Pacers to win the series. I think I took the
Paces too, didn't.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I know you took the thunder. You you have PACs
and man it's fluid.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Man, this ship fluid, it's moving. What you want me
to say? Man, I'm taking them in six now and man, hey.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
None of them was shat. Just know that all. Just
know that.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
So Wednesday, Wednesday, okay, see going into India five and
a half point favorites on the road. Game three? Who
do we got?
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Who you like at home? I'm going I'm calling makes
your mouth first off, calling you know like how you
said you can't even get the ship out? But you
see who who famous from Indiana? I don't even know
nobody famous men. Yeah, that's right, Mikeps that's right. I'm
calling Mike Apps up. We got this. We got his best.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
You're having all the Indiana Paces, Benjie Miller, everybody, nobody in.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
The building, Jack Fire, Steve jack Fie was in the building.
Every bird not Frinds lit the bird who Els Isaiah
Thomas is he from He from Chicago, but he went
to Indiana.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Everybody in there, Michael Jackson from Man not the Jackson Fire,
pull up, note over there, everybody what I'm rocking with
them the whole Yep, we're two stepping on them.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
We're gonna do those two steps. Okay. See she told
me doing you. Yeah, I gotta rock with them now,
you know what I'm saying. I gotta go, Yeah, I gotta.
I gotta rock with Indiana on this one. I'm on
(53:12):
the bandwagon in the Thunder. I'm on the bandwagon in
the Thunder. Just to even I'm on the bandwagon because
list I'm gonna say this, they're gonna be doing the
Holley O.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
If the Thunder could come in here and get Game three,
I think it's a stomach punch. I think they knocked
the air out of fucking Indiana, real ship. If the
Thunder come in here and win game three, man, this
can be dismal for the for the for the confidence
of the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
If you want to shift momentum, day one.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Stomach punch, liver punch right now, got all mother ball
up right now. But man, if they win Game three,
this condemn there like what knocked that air out of Indiana?
Speaker 1 (53:49):
No hard, that's don't be the win game three, right,
they're not gonna get They're not gonna get them calls. Yeah,
they're not.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
They're not getting no cars in Indiana. They're not getting
no cars. You think they get brought out the game three? No,
I'll blow out, but they ain't gonna get no car.
It's gonna be close game, but they're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Give me the thunder.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Then let's get it cool, all right, Friday, Friday, Game four,
Game four?
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Thunder at the boy, who do we got for game four?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
You got game four? Come on now, stay with it.
We're good. I'm not jumping off the bandwagon. Dog we
two stepping all the way down. Okay, then fucking then
we're gonna go to what's the name? What's that motherfucker spot?
You go get them burgers ot over there, and at
the end of that spot.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Shake shock, no shack burger, shake shake and shake shakeer burger.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
There's something like that though, remember Doc, you saw he
stopping get the little burgers.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Talking about the oh no, the white calf, white castle,
white white carting out, the white castle, laying out after them.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Shit, you know stuff is gonna be through, all right, then,
fucking we thurnned all the way through the give me
the thunder Dogs dock stopped there, we landed, and we
stopped at White like two in the morning on the
way to the hotel to get some white calf, and
we're like, what are we doing here out the window
putting them in his briefcase a whole weekcase, man like
white Castle.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
All right, it's think man, right, Man, you can't believe
what Man right, thund all the way through it.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Man, Man and the thunder win two of these, it's
some for three to one. They're going back to Thunder.
They're gonna win one more. They gonna bring them back
the Indian closing. That's gonna be some smoke in the city.
That's gonna hurt. Oh yeah, Man shot the cocoa golf Man.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
She did her thing. Man shot the U Coco New
Balance did your thing, girl, right.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You know what I'm saying. I was in the living
real room for you, my mom, real ship.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Man shot the Cocoa Man, Cocoa golfing, her team and
her family and all that.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Man, real ship. I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
You know what I'm saying, yeah, I got the yeah,
I got to say that, yeah, because I was watching that.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah you shot the cocoa doing that thing, saying sorry
for the cussoing.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
I'm saying, but yeah, let's gid it, skiddy, g't cirtain
What we waiting on your music to give us. He's
usually coming here with some new, some new spill. This
is what happened to leave the truth flowers that motherfucker
never fly.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
And then this nigga got their shirtin time, turning the
doctor love.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Don'tbody want you out? It's Chris brown Ship with niggas
in here.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
Man, Man, we recrest the DMX ND y'all You down, y'all,
you down, j.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
You love you come on sinking? Want a motherfucker then
you when a gang bang at twelve at night. Man, God,
damn Master gods Man, stop up, shut it down, Shut
it up. Stop Yeah. Oh oh that's how rough riders.
My right, nigga. We drinking real hard. You know what
(00:52):
I'm saying. You can't drinking.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I can't, Lord, you can't have me sipping on henness
here and be like Chris Tryna and man.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
A cit may come in, you know, Drake coming here
with all this girl.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm sorry, and sitting there here b hard.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
We're ringing crayon in here, Lord during the.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Game one right, man, we just got hyped out the
game like chill. You know what I'm saying, Okay, store
down all that hard ship out the window. It's Chris Brown.
Now it's that time of the night.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It's that time of the gods.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
The girl describe your girl, Grab your girl. Look, get on,
I'm trying tomorrow. I'm trying tomorrow. Yo, I'm trying tomorrow.
This is the last song of the night. Hey, grab
your girl.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm telling you true lamps coming here. You gotta you
got five shows.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah to the hard drive. Man, Oh my god, that's
keep going, keep going. That's getting baby. Certain faster, certain faster,
certain faster, certain faster, certain faster, certain faster, certain fast,
(02:28):
certain faster, certain faster, certain. It's a green summer. Yeah,
we built differently. You ain't watching the games like I'm
watching it again. You'm outside, We're alive. It'sluid. That's when
you stopped production. We know bad, but we want I'm weak. Yeah, here, man,
(02:51):
let's get it. Go ahead, Nate, you already know what
time it is, all right?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
So serious, Tide one one? What do we think we're
two games in? Curious just from your guys perspective being
in the finals.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh wait, you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Guys were up, you know after two games? What's that
kind of mindset when you switch cities.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You know what, when you switch cities, at least what
I found to be like a comed denominator, immediately you
feel the energy of being in the backyard or someone,
you know what I'm saying. Like when we was on
we played so when we got to La, you felt it.
So I'm eager to see how I'm eager to see
(03:31):
how okay See actually reacts to the crowd and the energy.
Also in in Indiana. The fan based there, Indiana place
totally different when they're at home. I want to see
how okay See not saying that, Denver not saying that,
the Clippers not saying all these places they've been and
he played the Clippers, they played Memphis went even claim that.
(03:52):
But I'm saying playing in environments where it's hostile, this
might be Indiana. Indiana's gonna be rocking. They're gonna be
solid and home. So I'm eager to see how they
react to that. Until you know what I'm thinking about.
Pete Man Shay still ain't had a bad game.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
You can't stop him though. Man, Man, you can't man
put two on the fucking ball. Man. You can't go
to put two on the ball. Man.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
So a player in their first two games of the
finals ever most points ever by a above Ai above Jordan.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
He doing some hes doing some other ship man. And
it's the midi. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
When't when I talk.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
About Mick Range, he either gonna give you a three,
right because his look, he got so much confidence now
that if you like right, if you like a step
right here, you.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Know, I like fifty in this first game that was
crazy sixty.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
You know, his first game hit thirty eight and.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Then the head like one of them games, yeah, forty eight.
The second game, I think game three back in Philly.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Most ever, the most ever in SGA. Game one was
the second most ever and it was.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
The by itself. They one game one. Yeah, I know,
that's what we stepped over.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
A loot in that playoff front.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
His midi is the difference, you know, everybody trying to
get lay up and then try to get the trade.
He takes those midi and those mid rangers are more
tough shots than you think. But yeah, I'm meaning to
see how they react to that.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Real shit, I was asking, hey, after two games, kind
of you're leaving the city to a new city. So
for you back in eight, you took care of business,
you're up to oh in Boston and now you're going
to l A like kind of what was that mindset
going on the plane out there and you're like, hey,
we're up too. Oh obviously this is different sin it's
one one, but just kind of switching cities and you're
gonna be there for like I think.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
I was talking about how how the energy changes when
you get to another city, how you.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Feel like you know, yeah, like for us, Like for me,
it was just like I felt comfortable, like because LA
ain't like some of these places we played in in
the Eastern Conference. Eastern Conference crowds and the Western Conference crowds.
There's two different crowds crazy, you know what I'm saying.
When you gotta go on the when you got to
(06:00):
go to Indiana, I'd have played in all these Toronto
we did have played in hostile environments, so like it ain't.
I can't even think of one Western Conference team that's
crazy than the East Coast. Yeah, like you know what
I'm saying. Crowd wise, maybe Sack back in the day.
Back in the day, though early two thousands, Minnesota was
(06:22):
kind of rowdy.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I remember y'all was rowdy.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Feel that yeah, crazy, yeah, But like I didn't feel
that for l A your buts you come off, you're
looking up. It's it's energy, right. I felt like that
was a home game, just like there's just certain arenas
that got that prestige. Staples, Madison Square Garden. You know that.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Ain't that?
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Don't that don't feel like a super role game to me?
Like going to Indiana or going to Philly. You know
what I'm saying. It's different, different feelings. So like, if
I'm Indiana right now, even though we took an l
in the game two, I'm feeling cool. I think mission
was accomplished. We came over here to get one. We
got one. They said we couldn't get Yeah, they said
(07:12):
we couldn't get one. Man, if I'm Indiana, I'm like
that playing right home, Like I'm dapping. We lost my fifteen,
but Soul sixteen, I'm like, we do what we came
to do. We came here to do. We go home.
There got one. That's all we want now about to
show them what we are, what we owned.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
But it's there a point because in game one they
didn't leave the game.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
So this is what happened. To us in twenty ten,
we went to LA and stole one, and then I
think we lose game three at home. We lost Game
three at home. That killed the moment, and I was like,
we're not coming back to La. So this is the
same kind of scenario. They gotta protect home now. So
I don't even know who the pressure is really owned.
(07:52):
I don't know if it's on the home team.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It is because you got to defend home, and guess what,
the series don't start to you went on the road, ken, Okay,
see winning Indiana, that's what they got to show right now.
With this team playing on another decil Indiana and the
same team they saw in the regular Sea, this ain't
the same team.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, nim hard.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Everybody is a lot more confident at home. I'm looking
for Indiana to have a big Game three, but I'm
also looking for some respect to be gained from Okay,
see that hold on, We got to get some respect
with y'all.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
One of these games is gonna be a blowout, I think, Man, Indiana,
even though they lost, can they brew them out at home? Minnesota?
Blew them out at home? Game three? Are my correct? Okay?
So again, blew them out blew them out.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
They did, They I don't know, had a good game.
Everybody was on cyllinders. Can they blow them out?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I'm liking like, even though in DD they can, they
can't blow them out because like, if they don't get
that that forty points from their bench from from Caruso
and and Wiggins Higgins. Wiggins came in and got work man,
he got the word Caruso is since you know what
I'm saying. They need that production off the bench. If
they're not getting that, that's hit or missed for them.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And they tried that double the big lineup, like you said,
they threw that line up and there.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
He was on that washing the game.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
He was like, yo, why they ain't going through this
big lineup?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Got him go ahead? You want sixty eight games with that?
That's what made him go like this. But that's what
I'm saying. You played all through the playoffs and then
you decide a game one to go away from that. No,
make them adjusted, y'all, y'all, sixty eight wins, y'all the ones,
the steam rolling you need.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Halliburn, though Halliburn got to show up to the dance
every day. He gotta dance. He gotta do thet shot.
He can't show up and do a couple of movies.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Just be in the corner waiting for somebody to step.
You might get in it, you know what I'm saying.
That's time. He might get you that. But you got
to show up and dance, bro, And that's what I have. Especially,
he gotta set a tone. I think he well at home, you.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Got to you gotta go like two for like thirty
shame shot, thirty shots the first first joint, right, he
gotta be on that same cliff. He can't have such
a hijack winning win to one and then have such
a layoff on that set with him.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
So Halliburton thirteen shot attempts in both games came one
in game two. Yeah, like this the defensive oc allowing
him to I'm not.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Even sure if it's the defense because he got the ball.
He got the ball. Yes, what I'm saying this whole
time of defense, you know what I'm saying. Just like I'm.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Anticipating in having him having a really good Game three
because he gonna see all those holes and the stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
He has stuff that he can do. But I didn't
think he was so initiative, like he was.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
In game one, so I'm looking for him in game
three to be very aggressive early he turned the ball over.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
He was doing he was doing stuff that. Yeah, you remember,
he was doing stuff that I ain't never seen him do.
I know what you're doing.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
But he don't have manny and take risks with having
a small with four people under him, you know what
I'm saying stuff like that. I was just watching that
Sam didn't have no super He usually got off you
know when he gets off really really fast, so it
has a quick start that she tends to prepare them.
They had that under control. So I'm looking for both
teams and seeing how they adjust because these adjustments right
(10:51):
here is going to prepare the momentum. Whoever win Game
three should have the momentum to take both games.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
To me, but I'm looking too, like I'm looking at
like this post be a strong defense man. I looked
at the second half Indiana from Indiana, Indiana scores thirty
and the third thirty plus in the fourth, like their
second runs come in the second half. Yeah, they gotta
get off the better start now. Okay, see then too,
(11:17):
they also scored thirty, So that's showing me that Indiana
can score on this defense, they beat them. That's what
I'm saying. They can score on this defense. They gotta
be able to get stops. Hold on, hold on, before
you say this. You know another thing. I don't think
we actually are given credit to this whole thing. The
fucking coaching, bro.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
This is probably some of the best coaching we've seen
in the finals. Just think about that adjustments each team
is making with players.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Oh no, don't like you.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
I wish I could watch the chess board and the
two coaches of an animated version of this church and
then just using peace let me take check out put
you Okay, you did that, and this is this Okay,
I got home alone for that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, your word. But it is a
chess matchup. This moves versus moves, versus player versus.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Okay, we're gonna do this. Okay, We're gonna go big
on you. Okay, we're gonna go small on you. Right, Okay,
this my three This is my three point Okay, two
minutes of defense out here just in case, so everybody
who can get a steal you feel me like, I
love how the adjustments in this match looks. And it's
in real time. You're getting adjustments in real time, you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Yeah, I still I still like Indiana in six Yeah,
I think I think at home because this tea. Okay,
see it's good. But they're young. They gonna go into
an environment that they ain't seen in the Western Conference.
They gonna go into Indiana. Dog, I'm telling you, I
didn't play it in a few playoff series in Indiana's
the place rough in there? Like you know, it's rough
(12:44):
in there, Like I'm telling you, I didn't played it
in a few series in there. And they crowd is
it's roughing. That's not a real NBA crowd. It's a
couple of places you go and you can hear the
crowd in a certain place you go. You feel, you
feel when it's when it's you feel in Indiana.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Like they wherever they go in Indiana, they gonna know
theyre in Indiana.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
They ain't no much going out going somewhere. Bus boys.
They three the three rowdiest places in the Eastern Conference.
Indiana is one of them. Indiana, Philly, Toronto, Toronto. I
got New York and now man Toronto crowd is sick taking. Yeah,
we put the Toronto. They was outside. You know, we
(13:34):
go down the thing, they was right there. I'm talking about.
It was a sea of them man like. Man, I
was looking like they was pushing on man. I was like, damn,
tops up. And then they seen the national Man that
crowd was sick or that they have the crowd. They
(13:54):
can't putting the camera on the outside that it was
like thousands of people outside. Was like, all right, nervous,
this is different. That was different. Philly might just whoop
your ass. You can't go in there with no Boston jersey.
They just might you might get jumped. My cousin went
there early when we played it early. He had to
(14:15):
take his jersey off. No, they was they was going
to check you. Man. He had to take his jersey
off leaving the arena. I had to get out of here.
You know, I'm telling you this is like O to
have to get out of the thick man. It was sick. Bro.
He was like, they're about to jump me.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I'm telling you, man, you go some of these some
of these towns, man, like, I'm dead ass man. It's
like it's like it's like soccer culture, man, Like the
teams are like so much. Yeah, like bro like all
these small towns like sack Utah, they got a team
and that's all they know.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know, you know what city need a team? Kansas City.
If Kansas City get a team, that crowd yeah something
like that, something like yeah, well they like right there.
We love basket they do. They do straight up. And
I don't know why Kansas don't have a team no more.
Like you see it. How you see how the Chiefs is.
You see how the go take it the k Yeah,
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J Hawk ca you.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
I want to go back to coaching.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
We got it right.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Rick Carlisle, he's the coach that is was with the
Pacers and now he's back. Some people say the twenty
eleven run that he had with the Dallas Mavericks is
one of the best playoff runs in recent memory. And
this one we look at this one, you know, beating
the Bucks, kind of upsetting the Cabs, beating the Knicks
and now winning Game one of the finals. What's kind
of your assessment is just Rick Carlisle as a head
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coach because a lot of the big young coach young
coaches are kind of taking over in some degree in
the NBA, and this is a guy that's been a
head coach for twenty five years now.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
The point that good point. He don't get his due
and get us do it. And he's so unorthodox, and
you know it's crazy. Paul made a great point yesterday.
He's watching the game and he said, you know what
I'm noticing, man, there are no switches. They went back
to a traditional basketball way of getting and sliding through picks.
(16:20):
And we was watching the game and for about four
to seven minutes we were watching a component of traditional
basketball on both sides and then need to jump back
into where we are now. Yeah, and we was watching
this or orthodox, going back and forth, and I's like, Bro.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
You seeing this right? And it was to his genius.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
It actually made the game like conducive to watch because
we was watching them hert slide through and I was like, dat,
he just slide through that shag. He's like, man, he's
going through, Bro. So he So it's like I was
alluding too earlier. Man, Bro is making both coaches. I
think both coaches are pushing each other to be better
and everything, and against his dude, Man, he's one probably
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the more traditional coaches that has made the wave and
jumped the wave. You know, he wasn't so big on
his way. I think his way has evolved in all
of this, and that's growth.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Man. Shout to Rick Man.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
He don't really get a lot to do, man, But
I think as you win and as you be successful, man,
the ship speaks for himself. So shot to Rick carl
out man number thirty four for the Celtics.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Or Jim Carrey looking at gets it done? Real ship?
Ain't good people? Good people? You know he wore that,
he wore thirty four for them when he played Celtics. Yeah,
that's all coming with me, right, we had you know,
we had the list. I think I have had the list.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
You walk with five right, Think about Boston, man, when
you get your jersey in your locker.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
You see the ones who wore before you. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. I agree with you. He don't
get his due for sure. I mean he didn't broke
He helped build up that Detroit team or before they
want to find those right and obviously what he did
for Dallas. I thought, you know, before Doc, they was
trying to get him the coast the Celtics before Doc came. Yeah,
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he was on he was on the short list. I
remember that uh to come to the Celtics. I always
had a good admiration for him in this style, I
mean his demeanor, because he's adjusted. He's what he has done.
He's evolved. You know, he ain't. You know, all these
older coaches, they just don't know the coast the new
He evolved to this because the style he had in
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Dallas is completely different than the style he played in Indiana.
Whereas coaches be so stubborn and like this is the
way we're gonna play. Like you see that with Timms.
Tims gotta evolve, you know what I'm saying. And that's
how you adjust to this new this new generation. You
gotta evolve with your talent. You can't just say it's
your way to the highway. And and I think that's
what I'm seeing from Carlisle.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Done a great job of that middle ground. Yeah, and
he still gets the players to play hard. Yeah, I'm saying,
so you know, shut out the wreck.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Speaking of the Pacers, Game one twenty four turnovers, Game
two fifteen turnovers, is that an area of concern for
you guys? There are averaging twenty turnovers a game through.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Two games to play Oh yeah, you can't turn the
ball over against the team, like, okay, see, they then
okay see turns that into points, you know what I'm saying,
Like like what we're seeing too. H Indiana had nineteen
turnovers in the first half, but had like four or
five players that were playing unbelievable gob talk.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
They had like five or six threes. Siakam had a
quick start home alone, came in and got money. Like
it was just it was it was just going, you
know what I'm saying. The Smith was already going. So
I think it kind of balanced the turnovers because they
were shooting and scoring at a high clip right first game.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, but they made threes and then they didn't turn
the ball over second half after that, and okay, s
didn't capitalize on the turnovers because they I think they
turned over like twenty five times. But okay, so you
don't need when you turn somebody over twenty five times
to blow them out. You're supposed to be up.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Thirty, supposed to be up three thirty forty. It's not
even suposed to be close.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, and they only got eleven points out of that.
But they didn't play well either.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
To me, I didn't think that they turned those capitalized
on none of those turnover.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's that's what I'm saying. They didn't capitalize on it.
That's why they was in the game down twelve after half.
First game. They gotta cut They gotta cut their turnovers
down though, because uh Indiana's been one of the lowest
turnover teams all season, all playoffs until now. I think
they only average like thirteen turnovers. You that's me.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You gotta also turn off the shape. You gotta you
gotta address the shape problem. You gotta address the shape problem, Pete,
like you on some real talk. You you can't keep
coming here.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
That Nick get thirty five, thirty thirty like like it
looks like, Okay, we're gonna let you do this. But
then check come in here and he got he got
nine damn near in eleven minutes. He got. He finishes
with whatever he finished. But that momentum, you know, I
think you gotta control man. I think got a pick
and control it. This is what I think I think
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you can afford for he had to go off. You
can't let these other cats going. And I noticed in
game two he's made a concentrated effort to get everybody
all that he's making like four minutes he was making
the X That's what I'm saying. He was making out
and that was noticeable. Purpose watching out, it was like
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trying to get him going to that because you know
he can get his off. So you can't let guys
like Cruiso go out there and get the check. You're like,
you can't let Wiggins come out here and give you
all the twenty piece. Like I told you alone, we
wanted to take one. You was like, who is will
you like? Man? He like a six eight shay I
(21:38):
told you yeah, he nice. Yeah. But listen, boy, you
hear me. Boy, the Pacers coming.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Boy this I'm eager to see the Pacers at home
in the finals.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah boy, yeah, it ain't be. It ain't been back
there since Code told him to calm down and hey, man,
y'all sit you down. You know it's gonna be crazy
outside arena.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Man, Man, did y'all see the Eastern Conference finals and
what they look like after the show. They don't want
to lead, man, I can't wait to see them just
the But what's the thing? The little the droid top
shot of them drones outside of.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
The Pacers arena right before the game. You got an
outdoor joint yet.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
A little bit most fan base is now built. Some
areas got to call it something though, you know what I'm.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Saying, that's gonna be harder to do that.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
All Right, We're two games in. We talked last week
before the series started about X factors. Who do you
feel like has been the biggest X factor from either team.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Biggest X factory, biggest X factor in both teams. Well,
I think the obvious for Okay se Is is Alice Caruso.
I mean, he been consistent, giving you solid defense, knocking
down shots, and just he's like a utility man. You
just plug and play him anywhere. Yeah, go guard him
all right? Right now go to the pope. Yeah yeah, shoot,
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go in the corner, shoot the corner. Three. I mean,
he's just doing everything for them, bring the ball up
for real.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
I looked at the hair Kaso and s g A
and Caruso and then Katesho was getting some pressure.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
Shae was like, nah, I don't want it, dude, nim
hall ain't nothing. Crusho was like, I was like, dude,
they got the three lord? Yeah, Lord, I see exactly
what you said and everything. Yeah. And then so for
uh Indiana for Indiana, I think it's gotta be uh.
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I think nim uhnise Smith got to step up. Damn
thee Smith got to step up. He gotta knock down
some shots, like because when I seen him go off
in New York in the Game one, like he shown
me he capable of knocking down shots like that. I
think he needs to be more consistent with his shot
because he getting a lot of open looks. I'm like, man,
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you know you gotta knock those down. And so I
think he got to be the X fact because when
he go off, when he gets you that dub dub five,
he gotta have a game like that. He gotta have
a game like that, especially at home. So you so
in New York. Yeah, and I ain't seen him since.
I ain't seen him since that was some I don't
want to call no flu ship. But didn't he something? Yeah,
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but he gotta. We're trying to we're trying to come
back type ship. You trying to you want him to
do that, like like like he gotta give me.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
That game in Game one.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
You can't put that. I mean, bro, yeah, I mean
he's been solid. He's been solid. He's solid like, yeah, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Saying getting money. You call him the X factor in
that ship. Well, listen what you're saying. You call him
the X factor that ship.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
He's only average twelve in the final stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he had TN yesterday he had fourteen
ysame one. That's solid though, I'll take that from him. Well,
the X factor has got to be the It's got
to be Halla Burton. He's the X Factor. I'm saying, like,
you gotta play like you're the star and the X factor.
Packs I was gonna say the same thing, right, you're
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the star and the X factor, bro, Like we need
you to step up, Like you can't just give me
twelve fourteen, you got I need to be seeing twenty
fives and twelves and thirty like you gotta really come
with it on both sides of the ball, you know
what I'm saying. It's all on him. He gotta be aggressive.
He's not taking his shots in the first half and
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then you decide to turn on second that you can't
use that formula. That shit is gonna work run out.
You gotta come out and set the tone early early.
So yeah, he my X factor even though he the star,
No No. I know it's it's kind of weird to say,
but it really is right. That's it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I was gonna listen to me. Okay, see check check holme.
When he plays how he played Game two, it's hard
to beat them. He's active, blocking shots, rebound, second shot,
moving the balls. He was aggressive with his own bag.
You know, he was agressing with his own Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Man, check.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And then I was gonna say, Halliburt, Halliburny gotta show up.
You know when halliburn shows up to the party, does
this thing whatever, you know, whatever he's doing, whether his
break dances, pop lock, and he always shut it down,
you know what I'm saying. So we show up to
the dance and get off eating and then the nigga
gota come in the like O Zone this tongue. You
gotta come in there with that you you know what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You gotta come in there O Zone energy. Game three.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
I'm looking for the pop rock and that the nun
touching it, and I'm looking for all that that that
the breaking one.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.
O Zone energy from Aliburton. Man we here showing Okay,
man almost.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Maybe going to the same Okay, yeah, we need that
o Z one Halle Burton, what the Halle all burden?
Speaker 1 (26:51):
You know what I'm saying, right man, listen? Then the
other thing to be joking?
Speaker 2 (26:55):
What the fighters ain't Mint in Indiana said, ships about.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
To be It's about to be cracking, probably the most
important game in their franchise.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Straight up. And this is it, bro, this is it?
So yeah, yeah, this is this is gonna be an
electric game three man.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Game three Wednesday. Will do game picks later, but I
want to know if you guys saw the photo of
Wendy and China.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, I saw that. I saw that ball He's at
the shame retreat. He went to a monk retreat and
uh yeah, he went. He went. He went with the monks.
He did he did what you do. The monks got
a ball head. He went ball ahead. He's serious, that's serious.
He coming with it. He's like, all right, I'm off
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this little pretty boy ship. I'm on this. When you
see that? What you what's that saying to you? I said,
I'm locked in. I'm locking in. Remember, I mean you
like he locked in? I like that he off the curls,
all that light skinned ship. He like, I'm locked in.
He ain't darker man. He ball headed though. That ball
head is different. But when you go from the pretty head,
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pretty hair to the bald head you, I don't care
about all this bald head. I don't care what y'all
thinking out here, might swing on you. That's what he might.
That's what he That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Lad that looked like that?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Did that looked like? I'm locked in because you know
you don't. You don't. Light skinned cats don't like cutting
their hair like that. They don't. I don't know tell
us they don't. I don't know. I'm just I'm just
based off of cats. I know they don't like cutting
that little pretty boy hair. He cut it off like
oh yeah, that little juicy Yeah, they don't like cutting that.
They don't even like you touching it. He's like, dat
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be ready to scrap over that man hair though, Like then,
what you put your juices and berry I'm want to
see the juices and berries like that, what you're putting. No,
you're not touching a man's hair asking that like what
you're putting your hair? Juices and berries? That's why, Matt, Yeah,
you can't touch that heir boy, he read to scrap Matt.
Matt was an angry, light skinned nigga early. You know
(28:58):
what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. That's how
they was. You know, he can't touch their hair, boy,
and they not going bad right that ship kind of
like a kind of situation saying ball and he coming
back says, nah, he coming back saying, I'm telling you
that's a sign right there, monks, ball ahead all that.
So that's a flag that you gotta pay attention to that.
(29:18):
We gotta pay attention to that one hundred. Okay, what
do you think taking I didn't know what to think.
I didn't know what was going on. I didn't know
if he was doing a commercial. I ain't know if
he was a commercial promotional or something. I ain't no,
you know, just ain't this.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
You don't know how players going to the shower land,
you know what I'm saying, to work on whatever they're
working on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
So you know, for him to go up, remember, did
you ever watch uh was it kill Bill? No? Let
me ask you something when she went up the didn't
she go to the monks to ask you something?
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Didn't she go to the Monks and ask you something.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Would you go train yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Would you go train with something outside of basketball to
better your basketball?
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah? I think it can help.
Speaker 2 (29:59):
Like I've done soccer, I've done soccer drills, I've done
tennis drills, I've done tennis reaction drills. All that to
make me. I did ballet balancing, believe it or not,
because when you go for the ball out out of bounds,
you got to have a balance or a motherfucker got
you on the PA.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Tell you this, if I got you picked to.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
The out out the outbalance, I can pin a certain
way to where you got to have certain cord and
balance to bring yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Back here and all that.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
All that is something else that's outside of the ram
of basketball.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
What drew you to that? Like, what made you make
that decision to do those things you just mentioned?
Speaker 2 (30:32):
If I'm being honest, man, I used to step outside
of the box of basketball all the time. I used to,
you know, when I started like really taking trainings like
to another level to where I wanted my slide to
be a certain way. I wanted to be able to
open a certain way if it was paul I wanted
to be able to slide it some way for Steve
Nash or small guard.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I wanted to be able to So I had.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
To do a bunch of agility drills in the sand,
and then I'm training like this, like I'm training the
like really put you in the dirt for four minutes
and if you can't handle this four minutes, acting the
damn money.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
So I trained like that.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
So when I get in the game and we switched,
I'll clap it because I already know I already been here,
be folks. So when you saw me getting down on
steveen ass and I hit him on the air, like
yeah me give me that shit, I won't the old
I was.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I had already been.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
There, But I trained for that, and I'll have been
looking at things like Bruce Lee doing you know longevity stuff.
I used to watch when Cap had great balance and
he would take the one leg this thing he used
to hold two point fifty two seventy three hundred pounds
of one arm and put the So when you go
through all that, those things step outside of basketball, but
those things actually helped. I remember working with Gianni's he
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told me that he started using some karate style stuff.
Tong Kwan does stuff for breathing exercises to help them
in the game. You know, you get in those moments poise,
having a breath, p being cool, even killed that all
that goes into it. And don't nobody teach you that.
You got to actually go and try to actually chase
that yourself, just to be better.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
The two things that help me was I was doing
some yoga, but then I got back into playing chess.
Oh yeah, that's just like I swear, I swear to
it helps you on the court because it's like your
thought process changed when you consistently playing chess and then
you go on into sports. I started seeing the game different,
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like I started seeing things before they happen, Like I swear,
that's how my my my mental started coming. I was like, damn,
Like I swear to you, though, if you ever get
in the chests and you start doing ship in the sports,
you're gonna start thinking that that's your pattern of thinking now.
So I'm like, all right, if I do this, systems
gonna happen if he do. Like I'm starting, I'm seeing
it happen before it happened, and it really helped my
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game mature. And ship. I swear to you, I can't
even explain it, but one of the biggest things people
don't talk to you about or tell you about and
things that come with the game is small things breathing
with shooters.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
When they teach long distance shooters to shoot, the first
thing they go over is breathing. Exercises to calm your
to calm your post, to calm your hands, your steadiness.
Drivers the same thing when they go up in high speed.
They have to keep a certain level of calm to
baby to you know what I'm saying, And I hate
to say this, but basketball nobody taught this man how
to stay calm. And you know what I'm saying, You
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need the cool or you're not.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I swear to.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
God him, Joe Johnson, motherfuckers. I just seem naturally walk
around like this and just have a nice balance to
be able to be in hot stay on. Owens pill
still be over there, everybody like shit, man, we gotta hey, look.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Eighty niggas talking and ship. He might be sitting back
watching everybody just like that man over the.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Man like just like lord, lord this, how I knew
you hit the shot or you was finna get a
nigga ass.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Lord, fix my head man. You're making me sound like
that's how you sound. I don't sound like, Lord, I
love you.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
He had a couple of voices that certain voices. I
knew what time it was, Johnny Joe. I don't know
what Blair. That's the ship. I ain't got nothing for
y'all to night.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
I'm out. You know what I'm saying. I ain't got
nothing for y'all. You hear this one. That's the first
time that we got action. If you sit out, he's
stupid up. Okay, that's the voice that means you might
get that joke. Don't let me get down. Red bull
in the head man, you're gonna put it out here.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
There's gonna be so much ship going on. You ain't
gonna hear nothing all of a sudden. You just gonna
see the left hand grab. You're gonna hear the oh
the blue.
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Boy pop, you know, sudden.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
And then he gonna bring the right hand and bring
the headband around here, and then you.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
Ain't gonna see him. And then this ain't no hit
the head Uh, it's the stupid his here. He's stupid
hit that bitch. About seven seconds drippling let for togeting
now man.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Stupid, I don't care where y'all at, y'all saying well church,
y'all somewhere.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
And you hear Pete and that voice exa, how it's
gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Church, Nate afraid everybody gonna be waiting, everybody gonna be waiting.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, Pete, Man, it's coming of packed. I don't know
we can get in here. Hold on, man, hold on,
here we go y'all in.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I'm telling you, if you ever hear that little voice
come out, that's crazy.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's the I ain't going her church. No, that's the odd. No,
there ain't nothing church till if I'm good, I ain't going.
That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Oh yeah, fished ahead man in the red boy and
and the team sucker they't go right there, right and
get him a red bull dial She is right, yo said,
Look that's crazy, dog all right.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Next thing I want to ask you about we just
missed this last week when we take but Tims is
out of New York.
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Uh, he shouldn't have gotten what what you mean?
Speaker 1 (36:25):
Fred? You good? He shouldn't have got good on? Fred?
Ain't good?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Dog, Fred ain't good. You know, New York we called
that though. Dog It's time, dog, Yeah, it's time Tim.
Tim Style ain't gonna make the new wave. It ain't
gonna jump to twenty five. It should have stopped at
two twenty two. Real ship, Yeah, because they ain't nobody.
That's the farthest they win. Huh, that's the farthest they win.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
You know. He took them to the Congress Final.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
Back to back fifty one seasons two, but they get
rid of him. Kind of the rumor is that they
want to get a current head coach, So Jason Kidd's
been floated around, you know, Doka, Chris Finch, Jay Right
just retired. He says he wants to stay retired. He
doesn't want to coach in the end. Yeah ooh, the
(37:07):
but he says, he says he's not interested.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
I love Jay Wright, but I wouldn't take that job.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
So curiously from you guys, you think they probably a
current head coach or kind of who do you think
is next to?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Kind of damn who you like that? I like them?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Mark Jackson and Mark Jackson enjoyed that habit cracking Mark Jackson, real.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Dude, you know what I'm saying New York need some
New York need some some What Mark Jackson in the garden,
who's from New York, Queen? I mean, I get it,
and I like you.
Speaker 2 (37:40):
I like that man of him in Golden State if
from being one hundred, But would.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
You be worried about a guy that hasn't coached in
eleven years?
Speaker 2 (37:46):
So let me say something to you. Nothing better and
nothing better of a story than somebody that came from
where you from. This would be like d Rose going
back coaching the bulls Man. He can't no exemplify New
York basketball better than Mark Jackson be one of them.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
You know what I'm saying. That's like, that's like a
that's like a that's like a bedtime story from rout
Patrick Ewing, then Patriort. I wouldn't. I don't know. He's
a better coach than in Mark Jackson. That's why he coaches.
You know, he's been coaching in college. He didn't pay
this dude, who.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
You taking Mark Jackson or you and the coach this
Nick team though, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Uh, that's what I'm saying. So if you go be that,
I mean, Mark got NBA experience what I'm saying. I mean,
I wouldn't both of them. They can be on the
start together, absolutely, and I love that too. And it's
and it sends a different message. And nobody's diffified that
nick basketball than them two. The one that actually is
from this month. You know what I'm saying. That's just
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another line. Sam Cassell Oh, I like that too.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
He's tapped the former teammate of yours is a great
basketball minds Uh, just vote out there potentially.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
Who I don't want that to be rondo first job.
That's Rondo first job.
Speaker 3 (38:59):
Every time to go to New York. But I'm just
floating out there.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
Not for his first job. You tell me they gave
JJ sh JJ did that lakership ship? Why not? Why
not JJ did the Lakers ship? You could do? Man?
What about me? Let me be a tough job from
ano first job?
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Do I feel that? But Sam will be great for
any young young bro. I love Sam. He got he
got a he got a thing on the post on
how to you know, get young boys today and how
to get him to respond and develop those young guys.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
Man, they said, J kid damn, where that comes from?
Ain't j J K ain't with the Mags. No, Mom,
I'm not leaving that Dallas job.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
When Dallas another New Yorker that just lost his head
coaching gig Michael, I think.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
That's that's a lateral man, Mike Malone and he got
he got cat up, but that's a lateral move. I
think he got the same type of stylist, Tims.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Would you agree that this is a the most attractive
job but be the most pressure job in the n.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
B A both, but you invite Listen, let me tell
you something. Pressure is a privilege. My friend, you that
nigga and you want to be that nigga, and you
put you in positions there. Okay, here you go. Okay, Pete,
you say you want a one on one top of
the key nigga. What you're gonna do? And then cold
blood shut up? Get my table ready? So what I'm saying,
(40:21):
you want to be in the joint? Okay, here you go.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
They got roster deficiencies though it ain't it ain't even
a coaching for me. They need, they need, they need,
they need. Somebody just told you, like it don't matter
who you bring in. I don't care who you bring in.
You can bring back red arbar Phil Jackson and that's
that like like that that roster maxed out. Yeah, you
gotta do something to roster that roster maxed out.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You said, this man, in two years, the waves already changed.
Remember when Joker was doing all the joker in and
you had to go get a joke or having an
embad or have.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
A Davis or have an antheony Towns or some shit.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
You remember that that's done. Now now we're in the
tips where you gotta have non You get them. They
gotta have eleven twelve because if nine ten you're fucked up.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
Somebody got Slider in there. So you gotta have a limb.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
You gotta have signed lamb, like they sit down, Hey,
oh hard lamb.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
Real talk, Like if you ain't gotta leave them to
get out here, bro, you can't even be out here.
They're gonna burn through your whole eight Sealm McBride, go
off the bitch McBride, Robinson and and and I don't
even know. They ain't even got them off for the right.
As soon as they burned through broom, you ain't even
got nothing to go to. So I went Pete man,
you got to deepen your roster. Man, it's already two
(41:31):
years now and you already got to this is the
wave now.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
If you were J Kid, though, would you try to
push to move to the next year. Would you say,
in the situation knowing you have the number one pick.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
Coming, you got the number one pick coming, I'm staying
in Dallas. What I mean, they gotta make me offer
I can't refuse, But I think Dallas living in New
York living is two different things when they're starting to
get older and coaching it. Just if I'm J Kid,
I'm not leaving the number one pig.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I gotta got a great situation. Great situation got pieces
down in Dallas to be that. Yeah, you can make
a move straight up if you need to. I just
like the situation there than I do in the Eastern Conference.
And don't nobody want to come from something that's a
certain situation to an uncertain situation. Yeah, you got a
lot of uncertainty that they just got to not only
were about the coach, but then once that coach come in,
(42:21):
he got an organized wick upstairs.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
But what's this roster gonna look like?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
So you would say, hey, go through the drafts, get
some guys in free agency and then figure out who
you should get as a head coach.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
When you know if you can get your coach before
you get to the draft.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
You got to get your coach. You got your coach,
got to organize you right now, like right now.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
So they need to make a call in the next
two week.
Speaker 1 (42:41):
Two weeks. I wish I would say this coming up
in a couple of weeks, Hell yeah, hell yeah, right,
you got to have it before summerly, bro.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Next thing we want to ask about, speaking of the
Dallas Mavericks, You're scheduled a private visit with no potential
number one pick, Cooper Flag. They're not talking to anyone
else or working out anyone else, so it looks all
signs pointing to that they're drafting Cooper Flag. I'm curious
from you guys, just being in the league. Was there
a number one pick coming into the league that you
were kind of looking at like, hey, you know, I've
heard a lot of buzz about this guy. Let's see
(43:08):
how he does. Was there somebody were excited to see
play in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
All of them? Oh, when we were already in the league.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
You were already in the league and a number one
pick was coming in. Who was that guy? You were like, hey,
let's see.
Speaker 2 (43:18):
What Oh I think for me, probably Lebron okay, because
it was even though Bees weren't number one, Michael Beasley
was having such a fucking.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Crazy like he was sixteen. He was six eleven, but
he was really six nine, six steps, six eight whatever.
But how he was playing, I was I wanted to
see Bees, Mike Bees and how that looked. You know,
I'm sitting up and close, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
And then you know, because I was seeing him play
with another energy in college that I think all of
us wanted to see how that, how that transcended to
the league.
Speaker 3 (43:50):
Yeah, he was the number two pick. Derrek Rose was
the number.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
One that year.
Speaker 2 (43:53):
Yeah, familiar with Bron and and KD Yeah, yeah, I remember.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
I think from me he was number two, KD Dwight.
When Dwight was up to come.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
Into the league, people wanted to, you know, I wanted
to see how how he would transcend to the league.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
And then Broun.
Speaker 2 (44:17):
You know, Bron had so much height and then you
seeing it on tape and I think when I heard
d Miles say what he said, it was like, you know,
at the time, we all had hadn't seen nobody come
into the league and have real impact as a rookie
coming from high school, you know what I'm saying, Like,
uh so he was just on some like yeah, we're
(44:38):
gonna you know, he was going off his experience, like, man,
you can't come in here to impact this with the
kind of players that's in the league, you know what
I'm saying. So he was speaking from his perspective, not
knowing you know, what Bron was or whatever.
Speaker 1 (44:50):
So, yeah, I think Bron.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Had the probably the most just because he was he
was followed the most. I think we saw Bro go
to high school, pop out on the after in the
in the in the Hummer, going to school in the Fair.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
We was all.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Like, yeah, so yeah, Brown was probably the most hyped
out of all of those two. So we was all
anticipating to see what it looked like.
Speaker 3 (45:10):
You know, Adam Silver recently was on Fox Sports and
he said that the All Star Game might pivot to
a USA versus World concept. The details aren't completely ironed
out yet, but curre's how you guys feel. Seeing how
the last All Star was a fourteen thing and there
wasn't a lot of excitement. But next year, how would
you feel about a US first world concept?
Speaker 2 (45:29):
So I actually think that this game is being set
up to go to Paris at some point. I think
we're gonna try to do the All Star Game abroad,
and I don't think that you can do that without
highlighting some of your international assets. So when I watch
a game like this, this, I mean, do the world
(45:49):
really won't smoke? People think the world won't smoke.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
It's gonna rob a lot of players who deserve to
be an All Star game. It's gonna have a bunch
of players that's foreign. So the way it.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
Breaks down, seventy percent of the NBA is US players
and thirty percent is international. So to your point, a
lot of that, you know, some USA all starts with
suffer because of that.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
Well, I think I think the perception is most people
think the world is better than some of the American players.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I think that's what everybody think. I think everybody think
that Wenby.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
And Joker and who John is, they think they better
than Tatum and line them up, Line line up, I
want to find out.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
Line up.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
Told you man, once man, we can clean all man,
we can clear all this up.
Speaker 1 (46:40):
Listen, man, shout to Mike Beasley, Lance boring. Ready, you
know what I'm saying. A man shout to them too, because.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
They had a one on one beef and they settled
it one on one.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Right, you feel me? Bro? If you ever want.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
To solvet sod hey man, look amen, check check it
up speaking solve this right now?
Speaker 1 (47:02):
You think you ready?
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Man, listen, world, let me tell y'all something, man. Don't
ever forget who was on your wall and who you
looked up to to get here.
Speaker 1 (47:10):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Yeah, you're playing well, you got your head shaved, y'all.
Look good, y'all playing, y'all gonna be the future. Yeah,
but we're talking.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
On right now. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
We're talking about right now, man, we're talking about right now.
Strap up scratch as you say. Where I'm from, you
want some smoke scratch and if you know what that
If you don't know what that mean, go look it up.
Go to the ag say hey man, what scratch mean?
A big fellow is telling you to get up on
the line. Check, check up.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Check. Let's play twenty one. Let's go back to play
twenty one Pete.
Speaker 2 (47:42):
Yeah right, we ain't got to do all this ones.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
The fans want something.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
Let's play ones, right, Because then what happened? What happens
when one side blue sells?
Speaker 1 (47:54):
What happens? Then?
Speaker 2 (47:55):
What?
Speaker 3 (47:56):
Because the world, I'll just say, the last seven m
vps have not come from America. I got the world.
I feel like I'm not doing pretty good.
Speaker 1 (48:07):
I got it there. You're excited, got world, I got you,
I got you.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Show up there, Nate, show up. You're gonna be let down.
Nate Havel Women come to.
Speaker 1 (48:18):
U c l A.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
If he can go to the Chile Chilen temples, he
can make it to U c l A. Have him
come over here. Check some of the sentence you over here. Yeah,
take him down slots down there, you know, check out
the marathon. Get him a marathon burger or something. Get
him a marathon burger. Take them off to Oakland. You
know what I'm saying. Right, Let JR. Rod show him
around in some couple of spots. You know what I'm saying.
You know what I'm saying, getting right, you know what
(48:40):
I'm saying. Real ship man, he gott tapped into some
to some here. You know what I'm saying, I get it.
Everybody going there other place to get something. Guess what
got to come to the meccad of get somebody.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
It ain't no skill skill like the problem here. You
know what I'm saying, right right, heart right, you understand that. Yeah,
you see everybody here understand what I said without saying
you understand that's what I'm saying. Everybody going to all
these farn places to get this need to be coming.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
To the wax, coming to the wax find out, right,
you gotta come to the wax man.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
So you're saying, scrap all this and let's just have.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
A I'm saying that's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
Because that's what I'd rather see the ones in that
world stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Bro, Because what's gonna happen is the world ain't deep
enough to have an all star team. Yeah, y'all got
some stars that's international, but all them, Yeah for sure.
After after you go Luca, Joannis Joker, Shae so already
(49:52):
said Greek Greek was in the first too.
Speaker 1 (49:56):
I get it. A b U s that sh start
getting one of my guys. All that's shaky, bro. All
that listen the first three fus my boy name in
Orlando who on one of the keep going, then they
(50:22):
gonna go. I got the world Church. I know you
are you from sack. You're gonna jump ship anyway.
Speaker 3 (50:26):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (50:27):
Right, bring your cow bell with you too, beating gone right.
Y'll keep y'all, keep y'all, keep on. Man.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
I heard Katie said the best man Man, what huh?
Speaker 1 (50:38):
You know? But let's get it.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
I think everybody want to see it, So I think
if you got something there, Yeah I didn't get it,
but that don't And then.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
I don't think that does disservice to.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
The American fans if you take the All Star Game
and take it at the National you know what I'm saying,
you know, but yeah, let's see, let's get it.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
Let's see some game picks.
Speaker 1 (50:55):
Let's get some game picks. Baby. Yeah. When I'm at man,
I'm up. I'm down left from round right, still the
worst ship ever man. Next year, we put it in
the contract.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
Man. When you lose a bent man, you gotta pay
up before the next show.
Speaker 1 (51:09):
We don't mean take it.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
You're still up and you have still I'm mill you
got still ain't got.
Speaker 1 (51:17):
This series got to count for like you mean no,
I don't be trying to do that. I mean win, Like,
get the funk out of here. Man, I'm taking the
Pacers to win the series. I think I took the
Paces too, didn't.
Speaker 3 (51:33):
I know you took the thunder. You you have PACs
and man it's fluid.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
Man, this ship fluid, it's moving. What you want me
to say? Man, I'm taking them in six now and man, hey.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
None of them was shat. Just know that all. Just
know that.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
So Wednesday, Wednesday, okay, see going into India five and
a half point favorites on the road. Game three? Who
do we got?
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Who you like at home? I'm going I'm calling makes
your mouth first off, calling you know like how you
said you can't even get the ship out? But you
see who who famous from Indiana? I don't even know
nobody famous men. Yeah, that's right, Mikeps that's right. I'm
calling Mike Apps up. We got this. We got his best.
Speaker 2 (52:20):
You're having all the Indiana Paces, Benjie Miller, everybody, nobody in.
Speaker 1 (52:23):
The building, Jack Fire, Steve jack Fie was in the building.
Every bird not Frinds lit the bird who Els Isaiah
Thomas is he from He from Chicago, but he went
to Indiana.
Speaker 4 (52:37):
Everybody in there, Michael Jackson from Man not the Jackson Fire,
pull up, note over there, everybody what I'm rocking with
them the whole Yep, we're two stepping on them.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
We're gonna do those two steps. Okay. See she told
me doing you. Yeah, I gotta rock with them now,
you know what I'm saying. I gotta go, Yeah, I gotta.
I gotta rock with Indiana on this one. I'm on
(53:12):
the bandwagon in the Thunder. I'm on the bandwagon in
the Thunder. Just to even I'm on the bandwagon because
list I'm gonna say this, they're gonna be doing the
Holley O.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
If the Thunder could come in here and get Game three,
I think it's a stomach punch. I think they knocked
the air out of fucking Indiana, real ship. If the
Thunder come in here and win game three, man, this
can be dismal for the for the for the confidence
of the Pacers.
Speaker 1 (53:36):
If you want to shift momentum, day one.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Stomach punch, liver punch right now, got all mother ball
up right now. But man, if they win Game three,
this condemn there like what knocked that air out of Indiana?
Speaker 1 (53:49):
No hard, that's don't be the win game three, right,
they're not gonna get They're not gonna get them calls. Yeah,
they're not.
Speaker 2 (53:55):
They're not getting no cars in Indiana. They're not getting
no cars. You think they get brought out the game three? No,
I'll blow out, but they ain't gonna get no car.
It's gonna be close game, but they're gonna win.
Speaker 1 (54:04):
Give me the thunder.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
Then let's get it cool, all right, Friday, Friday, Game four,
Game four?
Speaker 3 (54:10):
Thunder at the boy, who do we got for game four?
Speaker 1 (54:12):
You got game four? Come on now, stay with it.
We're good. I'm not jumping off the bandwagon. Dog we
two stepping all the way down. Okay, then fucking then
we're gonna go to what's the name? What's that motherfucker spot?
You go get them burgers ot over there, and at
the end of that spot.
Speaker 2 (54:27):
Shake shock, no shack burger, shake shake and shake shakeer burger.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
There's something like that though, remember Doc, you saw he
stopping get the little burgers.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Talking about the oh no, the white calf, white castle,
white white carting out, the white castle, laying out after them.
Speaker 1 (54:44):
Shit, you know stuff is gonna be through, all right, then,
fucking we thurnned all the way through the give me
the thunder Dogs dock stopped there, we landed, and we
stopped at White like two in the morning on the
way to the hotel to get some white calf, and
we're like, what are we doing here out the window
putting them in his briefcase a whole weekcase, man like
white Castle.
Speaker 2 (55:04):
All right, it's think man, right, Man, you can't believe
what Man right, thund all the way through it.
Speaker 1 (55:09):
Man, Man and the thunder win two of these, it's
some for three to one. They're going back to Thunder.
They're gonna win one more. They gonna bring them back
the Indian closing. That's gonna be some smoke in the city.
That's gonna hurt. Oh yeah, Man shot the cocoa golf Man.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
She did her thing. Man shot the U Coco New
Balance did your thing, girl, right.
Speaker 1 (55:28):
You know what I'm saying. I was in the living
real room for you, my mom, real ship.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Man shot the Cocoa Man, Cocoa golfing, her team and
her family and all that.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
Man, real ship. I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (55:37):
You know what I'm saying, yeah, I got the yeah,
I got to say that, yeah, because I was watching that.
Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah you shot the cocoa doing that thing, saying sorry
for the cussoing.
Speaker 2 (55:44):
I'm saying, but yeah, let's gid it, skiddy, g't cirtain
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