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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The truth, oparaders you, that's gonna be the opening the truth.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
That's gonna be the opening the troop after somebody get
Shoto on the line. Man, I like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
That's the way you get Fox to fuck with you, nigga.
That's the way you get Fox to fuck with you.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Nigga. You said, I'm trying to go and I see it.
You see what I'm trying to do. Some more real
plays in there. Yeah, yeah, you see what I'm trying
to do. When you go, Hey, Church, I'm working. You're
watching church. He listened to church. Hey, he's listening. When
he when he.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Did and there in the corner, that's what when he
got when you gotta get warm when you.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
You know what I'm saying. I'm working, Lord, I'm listening.
See you, they hit you when it hits you. Now
you push, you know I'm gonna push.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
You know, I gotta have to settle in first. You
get over there. Yeah, I see so look yelling do
in that and over here right.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Now let's get into this ship. Everything, Hey, everything coming together.
The truth flowers. We got the truth after dark heyn
when we hold us the next Lord, we're gonna do
the barbecue show if on some real ship. Don't steal
my ship. All right, y'all, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Everybody, we're in here, Lord, since you in this love space,
create a space that's safe for people to come in me.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Create a truth space.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Truthful you can come sit in front of you and
like you look not speed dating, but you give it
a structure and then have a place where females come
in here looking for certain type of men, and then
women coming in here looking for something. I mean, men
coming in here looking for certain type of women. And
then you play that and then do ten on ten
like once a month.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Thing membership everybody every Saturday. Lord, you cracking. I just
don't get to get over there. You crack all my life.
But like I feel like it's no kids out every
time I see you. Feel like, hey man, I'm.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Saying, trade a space now, Lord, you you tap it
into something, right, Okay, Now get the house.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Like you said, get the house, not a house, Lord,
hit me out, all right.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
If you're gonna do a house, have it be lound setting.
Where you got the place where you can sit. It's
by the lake. It's over here. Swing by the pool.
You know what I'm saying, Place where you can lay
and have a one on one you know, where you're
trying to get to know somebody. You're trying to get
some space. Look, yeah, well where hey can we? And
then it's drinks. Lord, people pay for that. People pay
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to come in and save space.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Why ain't no goods, ain't no niggas.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I ain't gotta be Lord, there's people out here looking
for that.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's for me. I love you, right hey, listen, listen, listen.
You know, and look, I know, I know you'd have
gave me a lot of great ideas over the years.
You know, it takes time to put all that together,
you know. Boom boom, I'm gonna write this down. Though
I'm gonna write this down, I just feel like he's
looking at it from his perspective.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
But when he starts opening up this can of worm,
I'm watching your ship, bro, You and Shorty got some energy,
and how y'all do y'all ship?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Then I go to the comments and I'm seeing people
actually engaging. So guess what that's telling me? The only
are they listening, but they care about what y'all saying
And they have an opinion, right, yeah, may open it up. Bro,
you're thinking about you and all these chicks that you're
gonna connect with.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Now it's a bigger play in that. Bro. You can
be like, what's this? What's the little dating sites? Man?
Truth dating?
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Truth dating?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
You want to meet somebody? I got you, my dude.
Guess what. I'm not using me, but I'm saying you
got high network friends that's trying to find a chick.
Guess what you got hogh networth women that's trying to
find a dude. Man, set it up because I'll trust
what you say. I ain't gonna trust with Nate Church
drunk ass for Church.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Might have me walking. Oh oh shit, I love you Church.
But what I'm saying, you know you've been in the
thick together, did shit.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
We're gonna take to our grade. You hear me what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
So I say that to say, man, bro, you can
bring another level of people together.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That's all I'm saying. Making it making an app or
then that we come to Man, you can make an app,
but started off as an R and D. Just show
your work. Hey, man, listen.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Everybody here tonight, smooth upper want to wap me off
to the truth.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Flowers.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
This is the truth Flowers. You could be yourself here.
You can put your persons over here. You got worry
about that ship. The only thing we asked everybody the
stealthyr phones for the next two hours. Get to know
who's in front of you. You know what I'm saying,
This is just a dope space.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
We got multiple spaces, always saying this. Here, get a
couple in here. Respect these You're good boy. Look listens, hey,
listen that boy. We're gonna give you motherfucker's five minutes.
You're gonna sit down and talk to somebody five minutes.
And it's cool. You're give them a sticker, like you
give it a structure. IM gonna give your sticking that
lay on.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I want I want fifteen minutes with you, know what
I'm saying, ship like this, and then you got you
got this said you give it.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Look, I'm gonna say my thirty minutes for you because
I really want to get to know you.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
You feel what I'm saying some shit like so is
it like, what's multiple men and multiple Yeah? Okay, bro,
not having like small team women and four niggas. No, no,
it e the team. Yeah even yeah, yeah, because you're
fifty fifty No, I want it to be fifty.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Then listen, why are you coming in here? It's a
spot this drop drop bot. You get here, Hey, introduce yourself,
you're task where you're from? Hey, I'm Kevin Off agree
with South Carolina. Look, I'm in here looking for love, y'all.
Truth told me to come in. You got out ship
Club thirty four. We're gonna have seventeen and seventeen Club
thirty four.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Yeah. You gotta put your lick on it, you know you.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
But you gotta have content to where people can do tutorials,
introduce themselves, and then let the ladies do themselves. And
then hey, look here the three questions. What are you
looking for? Hey, I'm looking for Lord. You're gonna look
up and you're gonna have like a dating show. So
you know, I'm rite this sound content. Let's get this ship.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Then let's get it. Yeah. Certifies certain Fast, Certified certain Fi,
certain Fast.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
It's a green summer.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, we built differently. He ain't watching the games like
I'm watching it again. I'm outside. We're alive. This is
where you started the production that we know back that
we want what the fuck with Petty talking about telling
about them? Men?
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Listen, first off, I need a pology straight up. You're
talking that ship yeas one one. But Nigga, that first game,
he was talking like they was gonna come out or
he was talking like to me, it sounded like and
you can rewind the tall right, they came out like
the Lakers were the Celtics. Yeah, they got two Hall
of famers right now, they got two big wigs, right boy.
(06:42):
You can't go into it my mama philosophy. I I
played against David Robinson and Timmy right. I not played
against Dirk and Stevie. I not played against Elijah Wan Barkley,
broy not played against some motherfuckers. When you go into
it and you looking at lord, if you're looking at
the bully like you can't knock the bully out, you
beat up already tell you that.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I see it walk around with we're gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Saw Obama when I saw the Obama content and Obama posty.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Hey, hey, young fan, y'all man, you need to calm down,
y'all man like on some contact ship. Well, y'all better
stand down. Man.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
When he said that, bro, you do you know in
the room of Titans and and Nigga Pokey Bro and
you stick Bro.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
That said a lot about him standing up on what
he own.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Man, I mean, I work on this. I'm dedicated to
what I'm putting out here. This is my brand, this
is my product. I didn't see no way in where
in no way in shape or form. If they had
a way to win, did he go in there less
than that? And they followed his leader. That first game,
they was moving the ball, everybody was on point. He
was playmaking. He didn't score a lot, but his playmaking
was up through the roof. In the ninety nine second game,
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everybody wanted to be the hero. Everybody went I show
ball and Lakers a lot more physical. They they showed
up that and the bron went into that. Okay, y'all
did he went into that bron he go and then
I saw a little bit of that. He ain't really
hit the gas on them, but I saw him hit
gas at points where he was like, now, y'all, finna
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get out of here, Like you know what I'm saying.
Because I thought Minnesota just didn't play well second game,
but they were, they played well. They'd have been a
better game I didn't really see the Lakers going right right.
They just went like, you know, this is enough to
beat Allen, Like okay, cool. It was like Minnesota settled
on that first game they did.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You know what, I think, I think they celebrated after
the if they want that, got back to the room like, yeah,
ain't nicky, come on nick yet it was going you
know what I'm saying. They wasn't ready for the intensity
of game to Daggers came out hell and I mean
I'm talking about yelling all and I was like, oh, ship,
look they had a hard practice. Yeah, they came in
on the Eastern was yelling, was yelling. He went back
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to he went back to the grip. He look here, No,
it's no way this team more aggressive than us, no where.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Big game for JJ at that point in his career,
right going down.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
That was a big game for him for sure. That
was a must win in no way in shape that
I know that. I think they was gonna go down.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Oh two, I mean nas Reed and McDaniel was the
two obvious that stood out right because I'm looking at
it like this, Pete Randall and not uh uh Edwards
got to count of balance. Luca and bron Right, Austin
Reeves is the third solidifier, right, So Minnesota to me,
that's nas Reed, that's nas Reed or mcdanie's. They were
gonna collectively have to meet up where Austin Reeves is.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You know what I'm saying. So I'm looking at matchups
like this, and if they're not doing that, bro, then
you know, if Minnesota shoots the ball a little better,
we're talking about something totally different. But all that being
you know, the man who show some respects, they don't
think he's gonna be man. He shot it, man, he
shot that ship at Luca here, Luca hole that shake.
(09:46):
Don't make that noise. That's crazy. You don't be weird.
Don't be weird. I just say it's shot him with
the web. Okay, don't be weird. No, that's a win.
I don't know what you but you're good. You're good, good, good, good. Lord.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
Danielson Reid forty eight points combined in game one, Game
two seventeen points combined for them, and another thing that
stood out did twenty one threes in the first game,
shot fifty fifty game two, only five threes made for.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Well, this is the thing I thought in game one,
they passed, made the extra pass for the three, whereas
in this game, they just went and took the three.
Like Nazregi just came down a couple of times, just
off the dribble and just shot it insane, you know,
with a lot of them cats. They didn't let the
play develop until the open three. I just felt like
they forced it. They was like, we can do the
same thing. Game one, they just started launching them and
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it took them out. They rhythm. Lakers took get credit
to the credit to the Lakers. They took them out.
They rhythm because I was like the Lakers was like
I'm talking about from Vincent to bron I'm seen me
and leaving Luka Dawkins pick up at half court getting
up on this man. And you could tell that was
the emphasis. Get up on your man, make them drive,
We're gonna help and we're gonna recover, and let's see
if they can finish out the rim. And they and
they weren't able to get there. I mean, it was,
(10:57):
it was. It was. It wasn't a great game by
the Lakers because it was up and down. They went
up a lot, but they kept letting them back in
the game. It was a play in the fourth quarter
the White the Lakers missed like seven eight shots in
the row, and then Minnesota getn't capitalized because they turned
the ball over three or four times in a row.
And it was just like it was a sloppy game.
But it was a it was a typical early two
thousands playoff game. That that's what it looked like. Right
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scored this.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, if I'm being a one, it felt like the
first game felt like a Minnesota playoff team. The second
game felt like a regular season Minnesota team. They resorted
to regular season habits, no ball movement with the listen,
Minnesota is valuable when all weapons are fired. When you
got Alexander, when you got where.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
You got Conley, when you got Randy, where you got
all them fun McDaniel, when you got all the help firing.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
They hitting the corner threes. Nah, everybody's playing for themselveslast night.
And guess what, Rudy's not good enough to play by himself.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
He needs you to get here. Put off to him.
You know what I'm saying. Then my assessment, and I
didn't think he came out and set the tone like
for trying to win a game too. I thought he
kind of sat back, you know, for the first quarter minute.
You're trying to get a game too. This year, you
gotta come set the tone he did in Denver, Yeah,
Washing Denver. First couple of plays he took on one
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on the foe. He was just in this yeah, yeah,
agress he did that. He kind of sat back and
trying to see where the flow was gonna go and
up though they played like a man zone.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
You know, we should play a thing kach Sham fifty
one fifty one in Boston's this thing where uh do
would call five. I five was a matchup. But when
he called one, it was like play your area. You
had to pass it all. They were sitting in his lap.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
But you gotta find areas to where he can get
the ball and have those drives. I think if you
get the ball, like in the mid post or in
the corner. I always thought the corner. You couldn't really
elbows the corners, Like if you swing, swing for me
in the corner. And if I could get to the middle,
I can make more of a play. His perspective, y'all,
you know what I'm saying. I would just get to
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the middle yeah, I can get to the middle easier.
See if I'm at the top and a guy sitting
on the free throw and a guy in the middle,
it's where I'm gonna go. But if I if you
set up a place where it start on one side
and they come around and I catch it in the corner,
I can get to the middle. So now somebody got
to help from the top or in the middle, and
now I can just start finding people. Boom. It made
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it easier or in that mid post for me to
like loosen up my offense, because now, okay, if I'm
finding ticket over there and I'm finding right, They're like,
all right, they ain't gonna help next time I'm at
the rim now. So it's crazy what I'm saying. Speak
from this perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
As a defender, I would, knowing that he wants to
come off to the middle, I will automatically take it off.
I will have to make them throw it to the
big because he gotta poppy get it. Then I'm gonna
tell my big to drop and I'm gonna drive Paul
baseline and that'll blow up the whole play. It's crazy
that when you always speak office, I always always see
what you're saying from a defensive perspective on how to
guard it, and then I'm some baseline.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
It's tougher to help on on a drive, no elbow.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Think about what hold Mike, great offensive players VC yourself.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
We had the joint.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
When you come up, fake the joint, come off and
catch it the elbow. Elbow, Bro, you can't really help.
If you're in the corner, you give up a three.
If you're at the top, you give up a top three.
Two of the easiest threes in the league.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Corner in the top. So he gotta listen.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I'd rather have go in, make make this gout come
boom shot now, boom shot, corner shot three Like first game.
I understood when he when he held up second game,
I just felt like everybody was out there on their
own and they had no came from the files.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
As soon as these other players.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Came in, they hadn't had no rhythm with them. They
wasn't thinking dribble, hands off. It wasn't the same continuity.
So when I saw that, man, it didn't look the same.
So I say this setting up going back to many,
what what do you bring with you, Pete? What do
you gotta do first game, who lost the more desperation
to win Game three?
Speaker 2 (14:52):
What the Lakers do because the game they got to
get their home court back. But I feel like Minnesota
is gonna gain energy from the crowd and the role
players is gonna play better, Like I think Conley is
gonna be better. I think McDaniels and Rudy Goberr he
gotta be a force. He getting the ball on the
inside and he not going up like strong and he
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has to and they letting him, They letting him hit him,
and he has to be big enough. He gotta go
up and dunk that thing or at least attempt.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, you know nothing, I'm saying, you know, it's two
p It seems like the more aggressive team gets the
whistle yep. The more aggressive team gets to whistle and
they and they are dictating to play.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
And I think Minnesota gotta run more. They faster than
it like they gotta use the crowd to run more
because they faster than the Lakes. They can get out
and man, you can't stop and man going full speed,
like if he get the ball on the outlet boom,
I think they gotta I got the that's gonna create
transition threes and layups.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
If I'm coach, I'm showing game one. This is how
we gotta be at home. It's gotta be game busters.
I think nas Red, I think Demi, chinz Oh and
McDaniel have to have big games. I'm talking over fifteen points.
If they don't have over fifteen points, p all three
of them, it's gonna be a tough night. Bro.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And you know what, Man Luca loves the targets. He
do what. He got a real estate in there. Man
Luca hollering that Snoop told the big folks, you ain't
ship y'all. Y'all with y'all talk. Man looked at the
guard that center, was like, man, what y'all looking at you?
They gotta he gotta. He got a sweet and a
turket center and he got a couple of sweets up there.
(16:29):
Many they're gonna shut that down though, show the finna
be he come from. He comfyed. The good thing about
Minnesota they playing. I think they playing bron Well. I
think so too.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And they're keeping him under control considering levels. I think
he can go too, because you know, we're not seeing him.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
It looked like he got tired. At the end too,
bron Man, where is the man? Who do you okay?
You got a big three over there? Who do you
need production from? I think he's gonna step up next
game because I feel like the pressure and the playoffs
sometimes can get you at home to where create nerve
bousness to where like you go on the role you
kind of a little more comfortable. I don't know. Sometimes
(17:05):
I sometimes I felt more comfortable on the road. Game three,
I figured out what was going because he was he
was getting iRED up, and looks he wasn't normally hit
me out. He would normally hit It take you about
three games to figure it out. Like Game three, I
already know you're gonna play me this way. I already
know it's you guard me versus it was him. Game
three is game four Game three for me?
Speaker 1 (17:24):
Bro Game two, yeah, because Game two Game one, hardest
game to ever play. Game one, I'm getting I'm fooling
everything they not might call the first four minutes, I'm
feeling one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Man, motherfucker, elbow you. It's feel like three elbows. You
feel me.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
We get to game three, I know how he gonna
play me. I know, I know the energy I know
where he'll go for and now it's the chess game.
I may set up something and I ain't ever showed nobody.
I may go left hand just so that he responds,
so so when I turn he go. Now it's like
I don't know for you, bo as we went on
in the series, and actually Justice adjustice so much better.
(18:01):
And it ain't no pressure on the road, man. When
you're on the road, it's you.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
You gotta get ready for you. When you at home, man,
it's ninety things you balancing, throwing, think about when you're
at home. Bro, I feel like game four get real
because if you ain't down three oh, and it's two
to one, that's the hardest game because it's hard to
go up three to one and then you're fighting to
get back to two to two, you know what I'm saying.
And then about time, see this is the thing Game one,
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you don't know what's happening. Everybody trying to figure each
other out. That's what I'm saying, because I'm telling you momental,
he gave you his perspective, like so for me it
was four. So this I look at Game one was
like what they game plan gonna be the stop whatever
I'm doing or what we're doing for them figuring it out. Okay, yeah,
out that. So say we won game one, boom boom boom.
(18:49):
Oh they made the adjustments game two. So now we
come back game three with our adjustments. Three different adjustments
been made. Now by the time you get the game four,
you know what's happening there. You know everything they gonna do.
They know everything you're gonna we're still adjusting. No, because
look game, because for it is the most pitiful. If
it's two to one after game three, fighting to get
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back in the series, it's hard to get to three one.
So that game is like that game gonna get played
hardest ship. You know what I'm saying. You fight for
two two and you fighting to go three one to
step on them. You know. So that game right there
is a pivotal game because if you get that three one,
you feel like, oh we got them. If you get
that two two, you like I swung back, Like you
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know what I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Saying, that game.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
We ain't on three one. We did, and I ain't
never had We had Miami three two. We had never
been we ain't been ship. I ain't never been ship.
I was like we got them. We never had a
three one. We weren't a part of that one. We
had three two three. We had three two in the finals,
and we had three two three. We had three two
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in the finals and two ten wasn't even the real
bron and we had three two of the clone. We
had the three two going back to la Remember no
I'm talking of that. Did you guys watch the episode
in Bluetoo episode the Celtic City. I saw the second half.
I gotta rewatch. I saw the last thirty minute, so
I missed the beginning part of us the beginning. I
(20:21):
missed the begin I saw the end, like the last
thirty Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:24):
What comes back to your mom when you see some
of that old footage? You know, some of it you
may have never seen, but just curious, you guys thought.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I gotta see it.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
I got with you, bro, I gotta see it, which
it takes you back. Like I was sitting there. I
told you how I've been watching the games. I'm in
dog LEDs on you know, look like Red and Meth and.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
The small Fucker.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You feel me, But I'm in that in that type
of zone, so I can really absorb and I'm watching
certain ship. When I watched Celtic City. Man, it's just man,
I found myself like really going back reliving certain ship
you know, uh you know, and just man, I had to,
I had to, I had to had to turn it off.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Give me to There's certain stuff I don't even remember seeing,
like the footage. It brings you back, you know, they
had the footage of certain things, you know what I'm saying.
And it's good to like really see when you go
back and see like the all of it, the origins
of us coming together, what we looked like, we looked
at it, I looked different, and how we came and
like we shaving our heads ball and going through that.
(21:24):
I'm like, damn the Doug vote for me. Man.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
So magical because I remember Doc taking a moment where
he was like, yeah, you hear that, you feel that?
Speaker 2 (21:33):
And I was like, we was like kind of like
sitting there.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
I was like what And I was looking around because
it's a moment where you come up on the bridge
and the little duck boat go up on the bridge.
You see this bridge kind of follow you. He was
going around as he's saying this, he's picking it out. Look,
it's gonna be a ton of people right here. They're
gonna be dinner and it's gonna be confetti there and
we're in there.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Pete, Pete, right here. Pete been here for years.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
I said, boy, you ever took a dumb and he
was like, he was looking like, I don't know, motherfuck.
Doc blowed his head like he was looking like. I
was like, if this man never been on a dunk
But what I couldn't see it?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Did?
Speaker 1 (22:07):
He hit me with the line, bo, that's not when man,
that's the people cheering when he said that this ship
this so what up?
Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah? That that moment there, and then next thing I know, Nate,
we was in it. Louis in the dunk boat going
against I said, almost you feel what I'm saying. He
gave it because I was sitting there.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
If you ever saw me going like this, it's because
Doc Rivers said everything that I'm.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Looking at, everything that I'm doing. I took my hair.
I looked up one time.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
It was like blinking so fast, like slap me dog,
because this don't even feel he said all this.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
So yeah.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
Another moment that stood out in that episode to me
was Bill Russell and you have a conversation it's like,
if you don't get one, I'll share one with you.
And then fast forward to you on the moment on
the floor you win the championship and you hug him
and you're like, hey, I got to the payoffice.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
And got my own, and listen on some real ship. Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
He said he gonna give me me. I felt pressure
like them on. I like, damn, man, sh like damn,
I can't get We ain't gonna be able to get
our own. Then he shot something, said, man, you don't
get two or three. And when you said that, I
know he knows something. He said, man, you really supposed
to get two or three. I was sitting there light
and like a blank face.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I didn't even blink that conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Bro, If you go back and look at that interview,
I looked like a substitute teacher. First off, you know
what I'm saying. But I wanted to come in there, correct.
I wanted to come in the Polish. I did not
want to get in front of Bill Russell and and
look relaxed. I wanted to look a tentative man. Back
was straight. I heard Shirley in my ear. Boy, you
hear me?
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Was that motherfucker?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Like this boy, I kind of sat back on my
back was so straight, so I kind of got calm. Lord,
I didn't blink. He was talking and saying so you
know how the old head beat he so, man, Bro,
I heard every word.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
But man, I took that conversation to the grave room
and man him John Thompson. Man, they impacted me with
words so much that uh yeah, I have to swim
that way every.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Time I had to sit down with him, like I
was never no, mean, it was just like I have
a picture of us. I don't know if you remember
this at your Hall of Fame and we were all
at the time you see web. Yeah when when when
he was talking to you remember that and we was
all lean and listening to his story. I got that flick.
Nobody's blinking. Yeah, I got that flick. Only thing people
people like don't flick like talking to you. But he
(24:24):
would just going to it. For sure.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
He was just going to you know, you got a responsibility, right,
you know your responsibility.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
You maybe it's online, h look see if you can
find that picture online. You see it. Yeah, we at
the round team. That was a real joint. Yeah, we
all listen and talk. He chopping it up with us.
You see how I'm leaning in calm, leaning, and I
think we all had to go do something. We was
like on one second, you see, I'm all like, damn,
(24:54):
I'm locked in and hear everything. Yeah. Yeah, it was
just to hear his stories. Man, that was so real.
What substitute teacher got that in that? And the interview
teachers out here giving flavor? You know what I'm saying.
It's a lot of substitute teacher out here give them flavors.
(25:15):
You feel me, Hey, y'all need a substitute teacher. Y'all
call the guard. You feel me, y'all call him? Call lord?
All right, you know what I'm saying, I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Your selfitute teacher today, Right, I'm mister Gardn.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
That addressed me as Lord, hed, I ain't listen right,
not get on your phones for the next six hours,
and do whatever you need to do.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Don't disturb me, all right? Turn the TV, throw on knockos. Hey, look,
I'm watching them for some three. I don't want know
history Cali Cartel.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Y'll want to learn something. He the something that's gonna
play the movie that day?
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Right?
Speaker 2 (25:47):
I just told you today next next day? Right, don't
disturb me. Hey, mab what you're doing? Yeah? That's fun? Yeah,
pull up, damn ain't gonna be like, look, mister truth,
Hey wequest mister guard there for something today. Mister Truth
gonna come in here, he got he gonna got y'all
(26:07):
for the afternoon session. Thank y'all, did you gonna come something?
Look slipping? Gee? I turned that down? Turn that down?
He look here, who know a sea who have a
sea walk? Cut? He gonna turn it into a party,
all right?
Speaker 4 (26:18):
The other series out, that's one one Clippers Nuggets.
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah yeah, Kawhi Leonard averaging basically thirty thirty and a
half points shooting seventy one fifty from three hundred from
the free throw line.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
What's your take on the Clippers in Denver? Closest, closest, closest.
This is probably gonna be the most exciting series of
round one because the Clippers are healthy and this is
with like, if the Clippers are healthy and no Kawhi
playing like this and you don't like James don't have
to be your best player. This is the thing. James
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can be just utility. He gonna have some nights where
he's great, some nights where he just falls in, but
he can be. And then you got other cats you
can step up, like Zubac and Poal and and Bandanavis.
You got so many like weapons over there that they scary.
They scary though they they these two teams. One of
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these teams could be in the conference finals, dog like
if they got to see and I know, okayc is
looking like a buzzsall right now, they got counters to Okay, see,
these these are some veteran teams. They gonna have to play.
They not you know, Memphis is overmatched, just just call
a spade. They lucky to be in the playoffs. But
(27:35):
if they got to see one of these teams, who
got experience, who got coaching, who got an MVP, who
got a finals MVP, it's gonna be something different. And
we're seeing chess match right here in this two games
that series. What's the adjustment you make if you eat
first off, I'm not shocked. I watched. Should be up
to Oh, Clippers should be up to it.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Listen, if I don't like the now you know why
because Russell Westbrook had to make some plays the officer rebound.
They missed the officer rebound, like stuff has to happen,
like you know what I'm saying, Like you weren't. Just
like they went it in and driven office, like you know,
cause and effect. My point, So Denver did what they
had to do to win it. I'm saying this goal
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not not only adjustments that you make, but this is
the closest series this This is going seven p and
if this doesn't go seven I would be holly shocked.
But I actually thought was having I actually thought the
two superstars would cancel each other out. I didn't know
if it was gonna be James or Kawhi.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, you know the X factor in this, Jamal Murray,
Jamal Murray, show boy, Jamal Murray, Hey.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Man, Hey, hey, I'm over here. Don't don't forget that
combination with him and Gordon. Now I'm asking who do
you need from Denver to step up to be the problem?
Westbrook got to be the extra.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I mean, he been silent, been solid. You need somebody else, somebody,
I mean, listen, this is the thing. I thought everybody
played well. Joker let them down in Game two with
the turnovers.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Bro Like he had five in the second half.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Yeah, five in the second half, Like and you live
and die with joking. I'm about to say, now you
know whatever, he greaty great, you know he hear whatever,
But he ain't gonna be having them games no more.
Clippers had twenty turnovers in the first game and loss. Yeah,
you can't do that. Denver had twenty turnovers in the
second game in loss. So now both teams is talking
about that in they film we can't turn the ball over.
(29:34):
We can't. That's the whole emphasis. You know that the
film is like, if we don't turn the ball over,
we're gonna win. So now we're gonna have game three
to where both teams gonna have probably low turnovers because
that's what they're gonna be emphasizing. So this is gonna
be like how you explained it, game three. It's gonna
be that game because this can turn the tie, right,
(29:54):
this is just close. Yeah, you need this game three, right,
like both teams need this game. What are you doing
if you clip? What's the adjustments Clippers need to make?
It's not on them right now. They made the adjustment.
So they like, all right, we got our game plan.
We got we gotta we gotta, we gotta play through
our crowd, we gotta keep Kawhi going and James and James,
so we gotta feed off the momentum. It's all about
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the Denver making adjustments. Now Devers over there, Like how
we're gonna stop Kawhi.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I think you double team and then you make you
make power when some of these other people beat you, bro,
you know what the problem is. When James is going,
Zubaka is going, they're almost like a tandem, you know,
because you don't know if.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
He gonna lob it or that little floater he got going.
You feel me.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And James is starting to take that little free throw line, ah,
that little min range when he can't get there.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
You feel me. And his playmaking is on another level
right now too, like James sometime I love But there
was one playout in like James after Judge, the whole thing. No, no, no,
it's one play. No, it's one play because Kawhi just
hit the jumper to put you up. Then you come
down less than a minute. You gotta go back to Kawhi.
Remember I'm talking about the end, like Kawhi still on
(30:59):
the wing. But Kawhi got to demand it too. I'm like, like,
hold on, I'm sure if Ray coming down you over here.
You just gotta do this. It's Ray, but it's still
Ray'm on fire right now? Lord is Ray?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
But he Ray came down, dude, six feet down there,
Come on, Lord, and you ain't working to get it
and you ain't calling.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
For you that. But if you like yo, and we
all know it didn't like run that now it ain't
no no run there. You know the bigs come to
get you. You just hit two three in the row,
We come to get you.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
If you don't recognize that, and you ain't know some
like on some hey, hey, hey, nah bro, I mean
it like bro, he four feet three, I can make this.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So in the sit
you might trust James down the stretch too, because he
makes big shots. So I mean, I can't get mad
at it. And he threw up a shot that he makes.
You know, he thought that runner, he makes that And
you don't know if that's a lot to big fellow
or if it's whatever either way, But I like the
fact that, uh, this is gonna be nipped. This is dope,
(31:57):
This is dope. Serious, This is this feels like check
yes you feel me?
Speaker 4 (32:01):
That's serious?
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Would you say, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Because
the Lakers and Minnesota is good, I still have to
see a couple more games.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
I gotta say this, man, and I ain't trying to.
I ain't even I'm just calling. What I'm saying. This
is observation.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I watched the Memphis Grizzly play Man, it felt like
they quit on their coach. Bro, they lost their coach.
Now I feel like they're quitting. I feel like I
don't get no senseant they want to be in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (32:27):
So you called let go of the rope.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
You feel that this is not grit and grinding me,
ain't nobody dog the flooring, no hard files. It don't
feel like it, don't feel like we're fighting for it.
And then guess what, it don't feel like we all
want to say. It feels like we're ready to get
the fuck up out of here. Man, fifty point. I
feel like, first the organization let go of the rope
because you fire your coach and you in the playoffs
(32:51):
in three week. Players play for players. Pause. You know this.
We play for each other.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
We're gonna play for Doc, We're gonna play for Flip,
We're gonna play for Rick, We're gonna play for all
these coaches.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
But you can't fire your coach.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Three weeks got but we still got to be professionals, brofs.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Two games in this road we come out looking like dustbusters.
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
You nah, bro?
Speaker 1 (33:12):
And then you guess what you got teams like SAT
You got teams that are just on that same level
that would have gave a better effort than this, And
then you got a superstar on your team.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
They're just not that that good, nah, because I look
at it. They talk about effort, but they talking about effort.
You can't tell me this is great air effort. You
can't tell me this is top tier NBA fucking effort,
No fucking way I get it. Y'all got blown about fifty.
You come back out y'all. Damn bro, it's just that okay. See,
effort is so high and make the effort nothing, That's
(33:42):
what I'm saying. But didn't make your.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
Mixed demon and you ain't in your left and this
this grind grind, this bro, not bro. Them niggas ain't
never playing like this. You can go in their whole
year and they ain't look like this.
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Well, I don't think they got no grind grind players
like who you look at and say he GrITT and grinds.
When we talked about with Tony Allen and Zebo Lee,
foundation of there was real grit players.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
And you can't tell me they don't have no tough place.
Job's a tough players, a tough play.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Really good players. They're really good players. And there's a difference.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
I ain't talking about their skilled I'm talking about guys
who man bayes, are competitive. I ain't seeing I ain't
seeing no competitive nature. And none of the Grizzlies, none
of that ship. Ain't nobody took nothing personal. Look a
look at fucking Indiana in the fucking bucks. You see
that serious man.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
It's church city, Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Dianna showing grit.
Yeah like Indiana grit man. They playing for each other.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
You hear what I'm saying, bro, you don't step on
the flowing and and and something happened and ain't nobody
helping you up?
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Or ain't know the bench? You know what I'm saying, Lord,
The bench got into it when they made their little
real broke. They are playing team and they done ran
into something that's on the second.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Two months ago, a month ago, they were second. They
were somewhere in the conversation there when Houston wasn't it
they yeah, they was, come on, man, don't give me
this ship. Man, Come on man, this ain't grinny grind man.
And they can't show off to mephis They can't doing that.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
I also think jah As is struggling because here a
little hurt. I think you know he's spraying his ankle
last week. Ain't nobody one hundred percent, but that's Spryan's
ankle looked bad. They probably look like he got some nover.
Can went up, man went up two. He show did
he went to the elevator room blocked us. Shit your
ass out of here, left headed, left handed, he show.
(35:31):
They don't want to hear that ship. Bro.
Speaker 1 (35:33):
This is when stars come stars, just when superstars. This
when you become that.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
But okay, see they're on a Missian, They on some man,
they on some steamer.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
The mission man.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Okay, see is they feel like they feel like they
left something on the table. They feel like they was
number one seed last year, with the number one seed
bout fourteen games. This year, you know what, this all
year we got Shay He's gonna be the m v
p Jalen wants some respect on his Now, you know
what I'm saying. You had at hardest time. You had
a caru, so you add all this grit. They like, Man,
(36:05):
this is us. That's what it looked like. They like, Nah,
this us. If we don't win it this year, it's
a disappointment. That's what they look like. The first game,
it looked like they played the perfect game. It's gonna
get real though. No, it's gonna get more risk because
you get rid of the jungle. Now, Memphis is a
tough place to play. I want to see what Memphis
(36:25):
teams show up. I just want to see him fight back.
I want to see some effort, bro, I want to
see what y'all y'all got the cloth man. Come on, bro,
y'all got stars over here. You got all stars over here.
There's no way y'all should come over here and do it.
They need some fight back, that's all man. Damn, let's
get it. Man.
Speaker 5 (36:37):
Another team that's oh two and they play Friday. Is
the Bucks Pacers up to zero on them?
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I look this up.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
Jannis in his last six playoff games healthy oh for six.
He's lost his last six playoff games just curious your
concern level for a team, you know, with the talent
they have being down two, and how does the rest
of the series look for them?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
I like me walking here home. I'm being honest. The
Pacers a playing unbelievable as a unit. I'm talking about
like this, they got like seven you feel me? Sachels
Uh playing at a high level. Haller Burn, I mean,
they got to cast them. He's solid, other than other
(37:17):
than Gianni's. I don't know who's going to show up
to the party. It seems like Bobby Porter's gonna be
at the party, right. I can't really knock Dame because
he's been out of a whole thing. I'm not gonna
put that on him. But I need some other people
to step up. I need Brook to be Brook. I
need nephew, Gary Trent Junior.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
I need air. It's on deck because you can't go
down all three oh three is like you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
So this is the game from Milwaukee to not only
put them back in play, but for project them. You
know what I'm saying, Like, if you can, if you
can get both of these guys, man, okay, cool? It changed, Yeah,
and it changed the momentum bro right now, Indiana is
the more physical team. I gotta say that they feeling good,
they comfortable, They're in their space. They chirping and you
(37:58):
know what they feed off for Holler Burdon. I ain't
seen Hallerburdon like this.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
It's personal. P It's something with him, that's right. He said,
I whooped your ass, said he said, I whooped your ass,
going back to your bitch. And when you got out here,
it was, yeah, you said, what hold that?
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Y'all right?
Speaker 2 (38:17):
Nick y'all? Yeah, what was you? What was you saying? Yad?
It was? It was it felt personal. The one joint
that came down, I think they was on the left side.
He yeah, man Rick called something. He with the what
what okay? Hold that y'all right? In this joint like yeah,
what's up? Back and down?
Speaker 1 (38:35):
And then I seen Dame trying to bro that ain't
the playoffs, but this got a lot more personal, like
gritting it, you feel me, like with gods going at
each other when they found each other with guys.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
On the like that. This is this is playoff basket. Yea.
Speaker 3 (38:49):
I like that.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I like that. I think it's a lot. This is
a big series because it's a lot of things implications that,
like we were saying, if Milwaukee get put out, I
don't know how long term. When Yanna's being in Milwaukee,
you know everybody's saying on the hot seat, there's a
(39:10):
lot of conversations to the chatter going around in Milwaukee.
You know, they gotta show some fight back. I think
they will, though. I think they're gonna find a way
that even this series in Milwaukee and then and then
we're gonna have a dogfight. I think this's gonna go seven.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
If the Bucks go down three, do you see those
whisps over? Do you see the whispers rising? They ain't
gonna be no whispers. It's gonna be loud talk. It's
gonna get loud.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
This potentially could be the third straight year that the
Bucks have lost.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
It's gonna be some people getting fresh air if they
go down three to zero and get sweat. I can't
stand today's league. So how long does it take to
create culture? Like, come on, bro, when you coaching guys
like Yannis, when you coaching guys like Kevin Durant, and
you coaching guys like Lebron, they know there's no patience, Bro,
You like you know, when you're coaching guys like Jo,
(40:00):
it's no patience you see these these coaches is out
of there when you it's the pressure of coaching these
top tier players because it's expectations.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Listen to me, Like you can just come in here
and you're like, you're playing against some high schoolers, Bro,
You're playing against other professionals, with other good teams, with
other great coaches and other great organizations.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Bro. Like just because it's just Broun. Yeah he's a
good player. But if you ain't got nothing around and
then yeah, it ain't ship. Same Threy KD. Y'all tried
three All Stars together, did work, no support cast, no
real center coach, couldn't even that ship didn't work. Bro.
It's not mike O Wave Bro. But it ain't it
ain't ain't it ain't that you gotta win a championship.
(40:44):
You gotta because you gotta. You gotta be competing for one,
like say say like if Milwaukee gets to the conference
finals or even in Phoenix, they was in the top Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Cleveland is a perfect example of what I'm talking about,
a team that has potential. They was barking with New
York three years ago for the fourth and fifth, and
we were talking about what the fourth best team in
the East was and it was Cleveland. The next year
from that they was talking second or third or if
not the same fourth position. Cleveland is THEMN there number
one for the reason. And they built that coaches, they
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changed the coaches. Yeah, but that that that stayed that
same nucleus. God's got better. They they they developed and
now through some trade years they been two years they
have been together two I think this the third year together.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
And after the first year, there wasn't the tools.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
You can't play Garling in there. There was a bunch
of these same whispers. But they got better every year.
What I'm saying is, Bro, you have to stay with it.
All this changing out and I gotta see progression. I
ain't see no progression in these other situations.
Speaker 1 (41:43):
Me in that situation where you switching the ship, if
you go in the middle, make it kate and you
got the greens in and you put it in the
and then you see the hold the old ship.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Take it back out. Oh man, I didn't pull any milk.
You pull it, Bro, that's gonna taste totally different, look different,
the texture that's gonna look totally different. Do you understand
what I'm bro This I cannot stand today's microwave system.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
Bro. Coach is not built in a two year form
that in the form of where we've not seen it. Yeah,
I know it's the new LANs.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
Bro. You can't build nothing like that. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1 (42:13):
You got a great player, but you also had a
great player and gave everything, all the toughness around him away.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Then you fire a coach.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
That's not on joker, Bro, that's on management, managing the
whole ship. If you keep Bruce Brown, you keep Uncle Jeff,
you keep the boy that went to fucking up KCP. Bro,
we're not even talking the same ship right now.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Guess what that'd have been four years that team been
together and they won it. Bro, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Then you add, no, bron would have got better. Uh
the boy I'm going blake on all these little youngers.
But then they would have got better on top of
these guys. Bro, it would have been no fucking Rockets.
It wouldn't have been no Memphis. That's what I'm saying, Brodie.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
You gotta stay in there, man, you gotta stay in there. Bro.
But I'm saying Milwaukee though. If you said like that, dude,
you know, it's certain players that you coach that is
pressure on them. Jobs and the top guys, the top dogs, KD, Bron, Lebron,
Joannis Joking and Luca's in that mix too, but Luca
(43:17):
went to the finals. So every last year Edwards in there,
Joh's in there, Well Edwards is starting to get in there.
I'm just talking about who got potential to man, Jock
can beat you, Anthony Edwards. I'm talking it's certain franchise
pressure on them to win a championship. And you got
John Moran in his prime, you got there's no pressure
on him to win a championship. Now though I got
like when you got KD, we got to win a championship.
(43:39):
When I got Joker, when I got Jiannis, Lebron, Exeth,
we gotta win a championship, you know what I'm saying.
So there's more pressure on them than you always more
of an urgency. Milwaukee never recovered from Middleton. Well, Middleton
got hurt. Middleton fucked this ship up. They never plugged
that hole.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
You know what, you should have went and got a
player for player where you could have Lord sat out
like a super long time.
Speaker 2 (44:02):
You never got to display them. You couldn't really see
what he had, you understand.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I like Kuzma, But Kuzma at this point, I'm watching
him not allow of playoff traits. If anything, he's been
in them systems where that second and third effort that
you need to.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
Play anything, you don't have to develop you can you
don't though you can, you can plug because I saw
go to State plug. I didn't seen them go from
Barnes to KD, k D to Wiggins. You know what
I'm saying. And you get that right? Wiggins developed, Yeah
he developed, Yeah, Wiggins to Butler. I see them like
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it's it's tifferent. It's that's patchwork and patches because I
surrounded my superstar. Yeah, whereas Milwaukee they did the patchwork
because you can steal patchwork or you can develops. You
know what I'm saying. Yeah, So like offense, Yeah, which
is not a bad patchwork putting down that's not bad.
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But now you need it one more. You need one
more over there, big fellow gone who Milwaukee eed KD.
Milwaukee needs a KD or like a booker, they need
a they need another motherfucker to come over there. They
formula works like this, we got a three headed monster.
Then brook Lowpez are killing. I like because brook Lopez
can hit threes. You know, he's obviously getting noted. But
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here's that little solid sass him and Bobby partners. You
don't put them on the list, right That's when they
come in.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
They get them office and rebounds, hit them, corner threes,
hit them top threes, and then they then whoever they guard,
and then somebody's there, you know what I'm saying. So
when those two can play, now they're on the board,
So guess what they're.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Being playing for.
Speaker 1 (45:37):
They need another motherfucker to come in there and just like, hey,
look let me take this off your day. Hey I
got you know what I'm saying, I can you know
type shit. They don't have a big three right now,
and they need a three in this in this list
they do huh, Yeah, they do? They do if John's
played with another because they never, like I'm saying, they
never filled the Middleton. So I'm seeing them right there.
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
How like, who are you liking Knicks? In the Knicks
in Detroit? I mean, the Knicks got more experience but
I think Detroit is more well rounded, and so I
gotta go with him. They got good coaching, yeah, death wise,
death wise, you know, they got good, really good role players.
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I think it's too much on Brunson, Like he shouldn't
have to average thirty five like on a team like
on a team like that. You know, I feel like
you got to get some of these other cats off
because they can help you and you know, be uh
cat cat, what's the other bridges? Bridges?
Speaker 1 (46:38):
Like?
Speaker 2 (46:38):
I think Brunston has to do a better job at
consolidating that part right there, if I'm being honest, Lord,
don't nobody actually look like they won't it? Ya? He
won't it? Well, it's the way their system is built.
It's like, all right, give Jayne and the ball, get
the fuck out the way. Yeah, and then if he's scoring,
he got that little listen when he come down on
the left side and he in his mix. You really
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can't you really can't even say nothing because you're going
to instant office, right, get it, I get it, But
you gotta call for some other ship. Though.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
I don't like the way they offense, Yeah, I don't
like how they not They don't really have an office
of balance.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
I'm looking cat, I'm looking for my dog to be down,
and you got Tobayas on him.
Speaker 5 (47:14):
Next leading score after thirty five and a half, sixteen
and a half by Towns.
Speaker 2 (47:20):
They gotta do, they gotta do more to get him.
You know, he's he's sitting at the perimeter too much,
waiting to catch it at the at the top or
the wing, and he has to make his place off
him right there when he has a clear advantage, Like
I like to get him closer to the basket where
it's at the elbow, the post where you're mixing it
up a little more. We're gonna go three mid range
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posts and then like let him mix from that. But
you gotta have creative ways of getting in the ball,
like start on one side, get into the other side
to where he couldn't, you know, based on catch a
quick move boom, like all right, picking pop right here,
boom at the free throw line. Uh. You know, it's
just it's just too the offense is too predictable and
it's too dependable.
Speaker 4 (47:59):
On last year five less shots in plays last.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Year where Minnesota used him, they used him in the post,
not Rudy. They use him in the post to be
the centerpiece, and he dominated Gordon. He dominated everybody that
they I think Memphis, I forget who was, but it
was some nice force that he dominated, right, And that
was the difference to me in Minnesota winning a lot,
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not being all on it. I'm figuring that the Knicks need.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
To use him like this. He has Tobias Harris on him,
That's what I'm saying. He's not offensive rebound on when
he's at the three point line. That means you're not
getting second and third shots, and he's not active. I'm
actually waiting on them to play him and Mitchell Butler
Mitchell Robinson together, you know what I'm saying. I'm waiting
on them two to be in there.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
To be because the one thing that's a parent with
Detroit is they gonna be physical for forty eight minutes
and they run into the offensive rebound three four guys
sometimes three four guys going to the offensive rebounds means
sometimes every other one we're gonna get. And when you're
getting second chance points, Bro, they got a superstar. They
can beat you over there too. You understand that they
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got a bunch of road players that's confident right now,
So if I'm the Knicks, man, I think I change
it up. I should go big and I get a
lot more aggressive.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
They gotta get. Like p said, Man, I think you
need to implement OG a little more. He could be
implemented a little more. I think he's just playing way
too much D. And then, like we always say with
tales Man, he needs trust that bench a little more. Man.
Speaker 5 (49:24):
Yeah, Detroit, Uh, going back home for Game three, first
time they've had a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
There just gonna be rowdy, Detroit. Man, what the hod
gonna be? Lit? Boy, everybody's gonna be having a change.
So cold and he shout out to the D guy.
Now what hell? J Row, Well, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (49:48):
Speaking of the Pistons, Joe do Mars can the front
office gig with the Pelicans.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
Scott Perry goes to the Kings.
Speaker 5 (49:53):
We've seen a lot of young, analytical kind of GMS
hop in as of late. These are now seasoned kind
of vet guys in basketball. Are we seeing a change
here with front office stuff?
Speaker 2 (50:02):
I think so.
Speaker 1 (50:04):
I think we're gonna start seeing this type of traditional
at least from the basketball operations side.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
When you look at.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Franchises, like Detroit Pistons, guys like Joe Dumars who've won
him and Scott Perry. I think they was in uh
Detroit together or Scott Perry comes from excuse me, Scott
Perry went to.
Speaker 4 (50:28):
The Kings actually yeah, and then the Knicks for a little.
Speaker 1 (50:32):
What I'm saying is the tradition of that culture and
then going to these other teams and helping operations is important.
I think a player like Joe Dumos, who played with
Countless All Stars, has been with Grand Hill to Isaiah Thomas,
he's won it. He's actually been through the bad boy stage,
the Ben Wallace system, She's the Chauncey's. So having a
player like Zion Williamson, you can actually build something on him.
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Feel me, and I think we always say fresh air.
If anybody can use Joe Dumars right now, I think
it's the Pelicans and Zion wills just to have a
not only some fresh air, but some refreshing fresh air,
you know what I'm saying. I think both of them
are going to actually do some good things there. I
think both organizations that they went to actually need what
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they bring.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
One thing that marsh did say was noncommittal about Zion's
future with the team.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Yeah, and then too, it comes down to Zion wants
to play a lot of times. When players miss a
lot of games, I get it. It's medical staff and.
Speaker 2 (51:28):
All that shit happy in New Orleans.
Speaker 1 (51:31):
I don't listen. I would love to hear from really Green,
and I would love to hear from players. But when
I watch body language, when you fall or when you
come to the bench, lord, lord and available, Willy Green
couldn't even get potentially to really see if he could
actually lead a good team, grow a young team. He
didn't even have a superstar. You know what sings quick
they did. They did quit bro niggas quick. Now that's
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why Joe Dumas is talking like that. I don't know
where you were at, my boy, but you got to
lock in, bro. You got a chance to be something special.
And I said this on the counting's time. So now
we're not picking at nothing, man, We just went on.
Speaker 2 (52:08):
When I'm seeing these guys don't want to be coached hard,
and what did you do? I'm saying, Willie Green, he
coaching them hard, he telling them how it is. I
saw that from Mike Malone. What's what's easy? What's easy? Pete?
They don't like, they don't like that no more. And
they start at the grassroots. You say something to a
kid that feel like, it's not disrespect but I'm coaching you.
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And I remember like how Doc used to get on
some cats. He's and some players to get offended. He
and Doc with your back while I'm just trying to
coach you, you know. And I started seeing that, you know,
on the way out. It was just like, damn, these
young kids ain't feeling that type of coaching no more.
And that's that's I don't like it. And it's like, damn,
how do you figure out how do you push certain
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buttons from certain kids that you know, the players run
the league and it's like you can't even coach no more.
So like now, moving forward with this new generation, how
you get the most out of them? Because once they
get their money and they establish they brand and they
feel like they're on top of the world, it's like
the competitive size or the winning part of it, it
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just don't it just don't even matter no more. I
feel like it's like I'm a brand and my images
this way and I run, you know, I'm popping like
I don't see the competitive spirit no more of like damn,
it ain't no grit, no grind, like we're saying, we
ain't seeing that in Memphis. We ain't seeing in New Orleans.
And this is our young future. I'm seeing it in
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Orlando though I'm seeing it over there. They showing me
some grit, but it ain't everywhere. You know what I'm saying.
It just feels like all of that is being phased out.
Think about it like once our generation, our generation, remember
they phased out all the enforcers, You remember that, So
no more Oakley, Rick Mahorn, all the they, Mason, Ben Wallace,
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they phased that out. Now I'm seeing the NBA phase out,
like the competitive spirit. It looked like it's a business.
It's content to his content, it's access, it's getting to
know him personality. It ain't no drive no more like
the yeah, like who who who? What players you seeing
(54:17):
out there? Like damn, man, he'll run through a wall
like right there, like you can know. And I'm talking
about from the young superstars like they they they they good,
but it's a it was a different level of competitiveness
in our generation. It's like, yeah, they compete, but it
don't just seem like, you know, it's a lot of
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jersey swapping after the game. You know, like you you
was never gonna do that, Like I was never doing that.
Like we we could be cool and everything, and it
was never known. Let me kick you up off the
ground after the game, hug. We went. It was like damn.
But that's what helped us keep our ass too, you know.
And y'all could be friends and all that. That's cool,
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but it's just like, oh man, y'all, like I'm salty
after we lose. I don't I don't feel like going
up to you doing this after we lose. Like I
just don't feel like doing that, not right now. Let
me go on the back and get over this. And
it's just it's just not there, dog. And that's why
all these coaches is getting fired because of the attitude
(55:19):
of these players not wanting to be coached. Well, I
gotta say this, bro, the younger generation don't want no
accountability perfect exactly.
Speaker 1 (55:29):
And if you're gonna get better, we got to identify
what you don't do well. Got identify with you to
hear it. I can't identify what you don't do well
how can you fix that and be better? Like the
ideal of coaching, bro is gone. So this is what
happens when you give a motherfucker aything. They feel like
they don't have to listen to everything. I forgot how
(55:50):
you actually got here to actually get everything right. You listen,
you learn, you grew, and you developed. The minute you
stopped listening, all four of them things go out the window.
Speaker 2 (56:00):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
So if I can't coach you, then what am I doing?
Giving you direction? And then I got a pick and
choose when you're gonna take that and not? So guess
what coaches don't want to actually show up and deal.
Speaker 2 (56:10):
With no players like that? So guess what Mike Malone
is probably looking like. Man.
Speaker 1 (56:17):
First off, the NBA feels like a daycare sometimes, Bro,
because you got a micro manage not only egos but emotions.
Speaker 2 (56:25):
You got to entitlement. It's niggas on the on the
joint thinking they better and da da da and hey
come to whispers. Bro.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Ain't nobody focusing on the teams that are focusing on
winning and helping you be better and understanding that? Yeah,
I think all that is phasing out. But it goes
back to accountability. Nobody wants to be accountable that they
bounced it off their leg and fucked it up. Nobody
wants to be accountable to say, yeah, I didn't get back,
I didn't crack back, I didn't block them out.
Speaker 2 (56:51):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
That's that's all coaching is, and development is is you
understanding flaws, getting confidence with those flaws, and better in
those things.
Speaker 2 (56:59):
That you don't do well.
Speaker 1 (57:00):
Bro, you can't take that direction. Yeah, you don't need
to be in here because this is a room full
of development. This is a room full of absorbing knowledge
for you to be better. If you don't come in
here with that, why the fuck are you at practice?
What to come in here joke with the guy? Ain't
nobody here joking. Niggas showed up on Easter to get
ready for some real shit Monday. But you can't come
in here with anything other than that.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
You're not me.
Speaker 1 (57:21):
It's the jungle, bro. And when we start clearing the
jungle out and you can see and it.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Was it was sun. Guess what happened? Boy, Nigga stretched out.
I want to give me some sun now, Boy, it
ain't no sun. Guess what, man? You layer it up.
I'm hoodied out. I'm in here, sisty, Yeah, I'm own.
I'm activated. Bro.
Speaker 1 (57:41):
You giving a nigga everything, Bro, that ain't gonna fall back, Sean.
I'm trying to say, Bro, these kids are in the league.
They didn't build this league.
Speaker 2 (57:49):
These kids ain't in no motherfucking wars and talking to
the owners and they're not. They're not in that exchanged.
The new lens Lord is.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
A whole new lens, and we can't spect old len
ship to be into I'm telling you, we gotta digest
what's going on today. But the winning coaches, these young
kids lay with each other. And when kids grow with
each other, guess what, me and you grew up with
each other.
Speaker 2 (58:10):
I got a game. We can go back, Man, I
want to go to Rock Pete.
Speaker 1 (58:14):
But I was winna hear pee head butter of me,
and for two seconds, Bro, I was finna choked the
ship out of you, bro, real ship.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
You know exactly what I'm talking and got into it.
But I was so slick. Nigga was destroying his big you.
I was talking craisey to these niggas that here, Yo.
It fucked him up so much. The nigga dumped the
ball slapped the ball and head buddy, fuck you niggas.
You ain't finna be out here puking us niggas.
Speaker 3 (58:37):
I'm like, nigga, at the funk.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
Off me, Nigga, Now this is my niggs high boys hot.
We got some this I was for the Timmy heard
Joe D was disrespectful because he dunk. I'm in my zone.
He got to y'all niggas. He got a dunk so
hard Nigga fucked y'all and then he yelled at high
spit coming out of right, and I'm like, hold on,
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what they paying for your face? Bust of people came
to see the ticket. I'm like, hold, let me give
the ticket. That's too much.
Speaker 1 (59:04):
That's too much here like a wolf, nigga, it was
too much. It wasn't no too much, nigga. You ain't
with the level. Get the funk off the court.
Speaker 2 (59:10):
So that's the sting. I was like, damn, nobody playing
with no steam. It was personal with me and tour
on Walker, it was personal. It was it was too
personal with me and Fatigue and guess what. It was
personal with them. It was personal with she Timmy, it
was personal. I gotta stand up. To it. If I'm
the leader and everybody look at it, I gotta stand
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up to this. Hold on, we are about to be happy.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (59:33):
That he was full of throttle, swinging in the mother fucker.
Speaker 2 (59:48):
Out in the room. Hold on, ticket, ticket, we have
to steppest level up right. That's funny that right there.
Speaker 1 (59:57):
That's that's that's not new Lyns ship, new Lands ship.
I went out to dinner with y'all last night. We're
gonna play to day and then we're gonna go out
to dinner.
Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
You know. It's it's that you always tell the.
Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
Story about the MJ comparison.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
When things around you look unfamiliar, it's time to go.
Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
But the line started to get blurred way before that.
Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
So when do you think it started?
Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
So when I went back to Minnesota for Brooklyn, knowing
that this is my last stint, I started to see
it there. Pete, you probably got the Washington and saw
similar shit that I saw when I come. When I
come in the locker room, I'm used to sitting in
the locker room halftime and then I'm going, Hey, what
we're doing on.
Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Pick and roll?
Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
We're talking about the game niggas. You know, Ben gat
a king, the layer round, all types of shit. So
they came into the locker room. First off, nobody was
in the locker room.
Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Damn. I went to the training room. Everybody in the
training room chilling, leg up phone, Hey, hey babe, Hey,
this halftime.
Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
So you know, I'm o gen alright, hey man, let
me see everybody in the locker room for a second,
so everybody, you know, I was like, yo, bro, what's this?
And then uh Rubio Rubio to see Yeah, man, nobody
wants to talk. Man, everybody's on their fucking phones. Man,
we need to figure out the fucking picking road. Like
Rubio had an old school kind of but that was
(01:01:11):
the first time I got to.
Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
See like this new lens. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
And I went to Rubio and Zach because uh Rubyo, Rubio,
Zach and Wiggins was like Wiggins wasn't vocal, but he
was like a little leader. So I pulled them aside,
like listen, just what we're on. And I had to
come to it like not in an understanding agreement, but
we didn't understanding. I'm gonna respect y'all young niggas, that
y'all the future. But the mauscle to O g hen
and I got to put some of this this traditional
(01:01:35):
shit in here. Y'all can be on your phones. Let's
talk about what we're gonna do for five minutes before
the coaches coming here, and they and they and they
went with it. But that was the first time I
started seeing, uh, that type of shit going on.
Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
Lead another thing.
Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
I'm a clean dude, super clean, like oh old school
like O c D kind of clean. So in the lockers, bro,
you got a locker, bro, your stuff, you put it
in a like a like a little net, zip it
up and put it right here. The guy comes and
picks it up, put it in, and it's also a
being here so you can throw it in a band. Man,
all these young niggas was dirty as fuck. May I
(01:02:09):
stop stop? I mean all y'all come in here, Come
in here, aeron, motherfucker man and man, look stand by
your locker. Hey, man, my nigga. Look, we're gonna keep
a clean locker. When y'all understand what I'm saying to y'all.
Everybody looking down on their locker. If you got some
shit in your locker, clean it up right now. Coach,
give me five minutes boom. So I had to come
in here and put a sense of oh genus and
you know, I don't can here, you know, whatever you
(01:02:29):
want to call it. But I had to come in
here and implement it because I had no leaders in here,
and it was puppies and puppies. And so when you
have a vetting here, young fucker's coming up to me
asking me all type of personal stuff, all type of shit.
So when you have that Og in that he does
that organizer, we come in here, we ain't playing it
hard enough. Hey, hey, hey, almost kind of how you
heard has them be in the locker room when he
(01:02:51):
was with the heat.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
But guess what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
He's implementing culture that comes from where he created and
now he's implemented into the young. If you don't have
that man, that transition misses you understand sometimes that transmission
or that that bridge that you want to create with
the young misses sometimes. So all I was trying to
give Zach Kat and Wiggins, Rubio and all those young
guys were some structure. They didn't keep it together. But
(01:03:16):
that was my articulation of OG being in the locker room.
But that was my first time starting to see the
lead change dramatically, all the boxes going niggas, rocking music, music,
super loud nigga. I was like, yo, this, this looked
like this, This looked like the hood we right now.
So I had to actually come in and put some organization.
Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
And I wasn't.
Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
I ain't gonna say I was the most liked, because
when you come in you put some structure to things. Yeah,
that stops all the fun because it needs to be
a certain level of seriousness in here.
Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Y'all can have some fun. Let's win and know what,
let's beat They ass and didn't come in here and
do this, so I would.
Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
I would come in there like this, but respecting the
young guys at the same time, you know what I'm saying,
all right, let's do some let's get some game picks. Boy,
and man, I'm like, uh man, what yeah, hit it again,
hit it again, hit it again.
Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Hit that shit again.
Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Damn many collections if y'all watching, hey, I don't even
I'm gonna have to I don't know what i'ma have
to do, man, I need to seeing collections over there.
Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Man, what are we doing? Like ninety one and three? Man?
What you ain't watching the game. You ain't watching the games, man,
I see you on the speak. Yeah, today we're on
the youth.
Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Look at it, dogg in this nigga right here, Foxy
Fox Hey.
Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
All right.
Speaker 5 (01:04:35):
Thursday, Yeah, Thursday, Nicks going to Detroit to face the Pistons.
Knicks are one and a half point favorites on the road.
Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
Who we got?
Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Who you like game three? Though? Who you like for this?
Who needs this game? By the way, let's say that first.
Who needs this game? The Knicks need this game? Yeah,
if anybody to establish I don't know. The only reason
I picked the Knicks because they got the experience. They
didn't been on the road, they didn't played together longer,
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and they understand the intensity you need on the road game.
Whereas this is gonna be home. Detroit might be feeling
good and might not match the level at the beginning,
and then by the time they matched the level, it
might be too late. Give me Detroy, boy, they ain't
played a fucking playoff game in a thousand years.
Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Give me.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
They might shake them. They might be a little nervous.
The Detroit Pistons. Give me, give me the Detroit give me,
give me the Pistols.
Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
Next up.
Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Also on Thursday, we got the Nuggets going into into
its dome face the Clippers, Clippers, four and a half point.
Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Favu the Clippers. I'm going Clipper. I played for the clips.
I'm going clips or I sat for the clips or coach,
whatever you want to call it, whatever you want to
call it, put on the Clippers, unifour listen. I need
I need a plus. Somebody need some ticks on Thursday.
(01:06:04):
I know this ain't even. This isn't even Originally I'm
rocking with them rolling. You was not rocking. Man, you're
run this tape, man, go back, man, it's talking crazy.
I said Denver. I had Denver, I had a six.
I had Clippers and six. I don't know we got
might be winding and ta, I don't remember nothing, Clippers
and the clips. He was just dogging. I picked the
Clippers and yeah, Clippers game one.
Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
You missed that one, but you picked the.
Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Clippers right number. Should have won that game too. They
blew it. No, I'm talking about your your your verbiage
and your riddle around the clips. It wasn't positive, you
know what I'm saying. I picked clips all day. Tickets
might get tomorrow listen, man, who you got? You got
the clips? For real? You just need some tickets. I
(01:06:48):
got the clips also for real, for real, get professional,
use your speed form.
Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Well today, I actually think the Nuggets need to dog
the Nuggets. If they're going to establish they're dominant, Bro,
they need to win. They need to win Game three,
and then I think that's when this lorrd it don't
have Lord. The series don't start till you went on
the road, bro. And if the Nuggets gonna have a
chance to you know, take it and take man, give
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me the Nuggets.
Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Cool?
Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
All right, let's move to Friday. Friday Pacers going to
Milwaukee to fish the Bucks. They're down two, but the
Bucks are favored four and a half points at home.
Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Who do we got? I think the Pacers on that.
I know he gonna pick the buck. Yeah, I'm getting
the bus. But the Bucks needed the buck. The Pacers
going three, y'all days gonna go for fifty. Damn, he's
gonna have to go for seventy. You have to go
for salvaging thirty eight. Now they can't we ain't. He
gotta go go to the rack, go to God. Yeah,
(01:07:47):
what you gotta do? Well? I was watching him. I
was like, damn, look going to the rack every time?
What else you gotta do out here? Damn? What do you?
How many free throw the shooting twelve? Let me take
shoot one thousand? He don't take no jump shots. It's
all to the rack, saw town business, all town buness, Yeah,
all of.
Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
Fifteen in game one, ten in game two.
Speaker 2 (01:08:09):
He like own neighborhood. I'm going to the back.
Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
Thirty four, eighteen and seven in game two. It's still
didn't get it done.
Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
I think they're gonna have a better uh better tell
me at home, have to They're gonna have to what's over?
But man, listen, this one you need Brook Lowpez and
Bobby Porters too.
Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Man. You know you need the support and cash to
kind of come alive.
Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
So you've got patients, you got bucks.
Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
Next up on Friday as well, Lakers going into mini
face the Timberwolves. Timberwolves three and a half point favorites.
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
At home.
Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
Who do we got?
Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Yeah? Fix it? Rich? Who you like? You got your
pom poms? You know where you look? Okay, what you got?
We got doctor buss Hey, Paul buss Hey, Paul. But
who you like? I'm gonna take the Lakers. Luca got
(01:09:05):
real estate in Minnesota. He loved going to Minnesota. He do.
I think he got a club out there and he
got some sweets. Man, he loved he got he he
live out there and feel like you got a hooka lounge.
He got a hooka lounge out there. He gonna be.
He loved being in Minnesota for some reason. Man, that
man love Minnesota. Minnesota got him. You know what I'm saying.
(01:09:27):
Love Minnesota. He love them. He love you. He's gonna
look have a whole look at doctor session out there.
He's the Wolves, the fin the tennis damn boy, first
game back at the crib. Now, Luca gonna set the tongue.
He's gonna have to.
Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
You're gonna have to because it's gonna be a naj
Red it's gonna be a no red site.
Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
And you feel me, You're gonna have to. Yeah, it's
all right, McDaniels. Yeah it give me the young Wolves man.
Let's get it there. It was a picture of the week, Yes, sir,