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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gina Gondeck, Marty Lenz, and Business Money editor Patwitard here
on Colorado's Morning News as Governor Polus announced he's calling
a special session for the state legislature, convening on August
twenty first, in order to deal with the one billion
dollar budget shortfall. In addition, he also announced a hiring
freeze for the state that will start on August twenty
seventh and continue through the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That freeze going to impact state positions except for the
necessary ones. And they call those health and safety positions firefighters,
prison guards, twenty four to seven facilities, but the vast
balk estate position is going to be frozen until that
next calendar year.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Joining us now in the ka Common Spirit of Health
hotline Andrew Hudson of Andrew Hudson's Jobs List, who understands
the space better than most anybody. Andrew, thanks for coming
on with us. Do you know how many jobs we
are talking about that are going to be frozen? A
few thousand or so.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
At least, And you know, I think you've got to
put this whole thing in context. I mean, we've got
the perfect trifector. Now we've got a massive layoff at
the federal level, we have layoffs coming at the city level,
have these hiring freezes at the state level. This is
unprecedented and I think quite a frank a direct line
between all of these decisions getting right back to DC
(01:09):
and uh, you know job numbers that have come up, hey,
and revisions that have happened.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Andrew, I don't mean to break you midstride, but your
phone is cutting in and out.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Is that any better?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yes? It is?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sorry, Oh no, that's okay. I I think the combination
of the federal, state, and local job cuts and freezes,
there's a direct line straight to Washington, d C. With
all of these things happening, as well as the anemic
job numbers that were just came out, including the revisions
from the last couple of months. So it's a you know,
(01:45):
it's a difficult situation, and I think it's going to
be very challenging for job seekers, for those who have
been laid off who would partinue at the federal level
and at the city level, who are maybe looking to
the state as a as a potential, uh to to
land their careers. But now I think it's just going
to be even more difficult.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Of course, these are public sector jobs that we're talking about.
Does that spill over into the private sector at all?
I mean a lot of times we have contractors that
are working for the state that are not public sector employees,
but are impacted by public sector jobs.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Oh, without question. And you know, at the state level
in particular, I mean, it's just like doing your family budget.
You're trying to figure out which where are areas that
you can cut and a lot of this goes down
into contractors, to vendors, to consultants. And that's also true
at the federal and at the city level as well.
And there is definitely this trickle down effect that affects
(02:39):
all a variety of sectors of the economy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Andrew, I know the governor said that the vast bulk
of these state positions will be.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Frozen until the next calendar year.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So how much of that will have a ripple effect
on just our overall workforce and hiring. To be on
a hiring freeze for that long.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think it's going to be incredible difficult. There's gonna
you know, they're making what anybody would think is responsible
decisions here when you have almost a billion dollar additional
shortfall from what they had to do with last year
as well. So yeah, I mean it's going to be
very interesting to figure out how they can uh, how
(03:19):
they can come together and figure out how they're going
to make these cuts. But these cuts across the state
government are going to have effects unemployment even beyond just
the freezes that are going to be impacted through the
end of the year. And this is it's pretty unprecedented
what we're seeing here.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
What would you recommend to somebody if they came to
you to say, I was one of those people froze
out of the job. I'm a job seeker, but I
have to, you know, repivot or rethink what I'm going
to do. What are your advice to those folks?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I would say, Number one, look at your look
at your entire skill set. What are your transferable skills?
How does a lot of people don't realize that the
jobs that they're doing, they actually have a lot of value,
particularly in government. Excuse me, There's a tremendous amount of
transferable skills that people can rely on, that that are
applicable to other industries and other structors that are you know,
(04:08):
that are going for those folks together. A lot of
people I know that uh, they're they're they're looking at
this as a time to reinvent themselves. Maybe they're going
back to college or taking some additional classes to get
their skills more in line with what the economy is
asking for right now. So you know, there are a
lot of opportunities to kind of pivot and to reset
yourself and to say this, there are still jobs out there.
(04:31):
The problem is is that there's going to be a
lot more job seekers that are competing for that one
job that you're going for.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Andrew, and wrapping up with you, we'll try to end
on a positive note here when we look at other companies,
I mean, will they have a bigger pool of qualified candidates?
You talk about the competition on the employee side, obviously,
but the employers, will they have a better chance of
finding those people that were maybe holding out for some
of those state positions.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yes, without question. And I think you know, even after COVID,
the job seekers were in the cappirt seat. Now the
employers are and they're going to be able to really
pick and choose and look at and see where that
top talent is and those are the ones that they're
going to want to hire, so yeah, I mean that.
I suppose that is somewhat of a positive.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
He is the founder proprietor of Andrew Hudson's Jobs List.
It's our friend, Andrew Hudson.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Thank you, thank you,
Gina Gondeck, Marty Lenz, and Business Money editor Patwitard here
on Colorado's Morning News as Governor Polus announced he's calling
a special session for the state legislature, convening on August
twenty first, in order to deal with the one billion
dollar budget shortfall. In addition, he also announced a hiring
freeze for the state that will start on August twenty
seventh and continue through the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
That freeze going to impact state positions except for the
necessary ones. And they call those health and safety positions firefighters,
prison guards, twenty four to seven facilities, but the vast
balk estate position is going to be frozen until that
next calendar year.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Joining us now in the ka Common Spirit of Health
hotline Andrew Hudson of Andrew Hudson's Jobs List, who understands
the space better than most anybody. Andrew, thanks for coming
on with us. Do you know how many jobs we
are talking about that are going to be frozen? A
few thousand or so.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
At least, And you know, I think you've got to
put this whole thing in context. I mean, we've got
the perfect trifector. Now we've got a massive layoff at
the federal level, we have layoffs coming at the city level,
have these hiring freezes at the state level. This is
unprecedented and I think quite a frank a direct line
between all of these decisions getting right back to DC
(01:09):
and uh, you know job numbers that have come up, hey,
and revisions that have happened.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Andrew, I don't mean to break you midstride, but your
phone is cutting in and out.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Is that any better?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Yes? It is?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Sorry, Oh no, that's okay. I I think the combination
of the federal, state, and local job cuts and freezes,
there's a direct line straight to Washington, d C. With
all of these things happening, as well as the anemic
job numbers that were just came out, including the revisions
from the last couple of months. So it's a you know,
(01:45):
it's a difficult situation, and I think it's going to
be very challenging for job seekers, for those who have
been laid off who would partinue at the federal level
and at the city level, who are maybe looking to
the state as a as a potential, uh to to
land their careers. But now I think it's just going
to be even more difficult.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Of course, these are public sector jobs that we're talking about.
Does that spill over into the private sector at all?
I mean a lot of times we have contractors that
are working for the state that are not public sector employees,
but are impacted by public sector jobs.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Oh, without question. And you know, at the state level
in particular, I mean, it's just like doing your family budget.
You're trying to figure out which where are areas that
you can cut and a lot of this goes down
into contractors, to vendors, to consultants. And that's also true
at the federal and at the city level as well.
And there is definitely this trickle down effect that affects
(02:39):
all a variety of sectors of the economy.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Andrew, I know the governor said that the vast bulk
of these state positions will be.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Frozen until the next calendar year.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
So how much of that will have a ripple effect
on just our overall workforce and hiring. To be on
a hiring freeze for that long.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
I think it's going to be incredible difficult. There's gonna
you know, they're making what anybody would think is responsible
decisions here when you have almost a billion dollar additional
shortfall from what they had to do with last year
as well. So yeah, I mean it's going to be
very interesting to figure out how they can uh, how
(03:19):
they can come together and figure out how they're going
to make these cuts. But these cuts across the state
government are going to have effects unemployment even beyond just
the freezes that are going to be impacted through the
end of the year. And this is it's pretty unprecedented
what we're seeing here.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
What would you recommend to somebody if they came to
you to say, I was one of those people froze
out of the job. I'm a job seeker, but I
have to, you know, repivot or rethink what I'm going
to do. What are your advice to those folks?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I would say, Number one, look at your look
at your entire skill set. What are your transferable skills?
How does a lot of people don't realize that the
jobs that they're doing, they actually have a lot of value,
particularly in government. Excuse me, There's a tremendous amount of
transferable skills that people can rely on, that that are
applicable to other industries and other structors that are you know,
(04:08):
that are going for those folks together. A lot of
people I know that uh, they're they're they're looking at
this as a time to reinvent themselves. Maybe they're going
back to college or taking some additional classes to get
their skills more in line with what the economy is
asking for right now. So you know, there are a
lot of opportunities to kind of pivot and to reset
yourself and to say this, there are still jobs out there.
(04:31):
The problem is is that there's going to be a
lot more job seekers that are competing for that one
job that you're going for.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Andrew, and wrapping up with you, we'll try to end
on a positive note here when we look at other companies,
I mean, will they have a bigger pool of qualified candidates?
You talk about the competition on the employee side, obviously,
but the employers, will they have a better chance of
finding those people that were maybe holding out for some
of those state positions.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yes, without question. And I think you know, even after COVID,
the job seekers were in the cappirt seat. Now the
employers are and they're going to be able to really
pick and choose and look at and see where that
top talent is and those are the ones that they're
going to want to hire, so yeah, I mean that.
I suppose that is somewhat of a positive.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
He is the founder proprietor of Andrew Hudson's Jobs List.
It's our friend, Andrew Hudson.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Thank you, thank you,
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