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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is Colorado's Morning News. From Stonehenge to the Great Pyramid.
There's so much we're still learning about humanity's hidden past.
That's why twelve world class researchers, scientists, and scholars are
joining together to unveil some of that lost technology, forbid knowledge,
and deeper truths of the past in the fourth annual
Ancient Civilization's Conference. It's taking place Saturday and Sunday at

(00:20):
the GIA Sphere Event Center in Lewisville.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
And joining us on the KWA Common Spirit Health Hotline
is Robert Grant, scientist and entrepreneur bridging science, spirituality and innovation.
He's also one of the speakers at the Ancient Civilization's Conference. Robert,
thank you so much for your time this morning.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Thank you. It's great to be with you.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
We're going to start with a very very broad question
here that could probably take hours to answer, but let's
try to boil it down a little bit. Are there
more unknowns than knowns when it comes to the ancient past?

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well? Absolutely, you know. My great hit my favorite motto
in life is the more I learn, the less I
feel I actually know. And so you know, oftentimes when
we find new things around the world, especially related to
our ancient past. It just tends to open up a
lot more questions as we start to confirm these things.
So I think that's actually what is going on here,
and there seems to be an entire loss history for

(01:13):
our ancient world.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
And some of the things. Though we learn it imagined,
it opens a whole other bevy of questions. For example,
if I understand correctly and tell me Stonehege basically is
a way of telling time or setting the sun. But
are we learning Once we answer one question, doesn't that
open a window a whole bunch of other questions about
whether said object we're looking at or said civilization.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well? Absolutely. If you look at Stonehenge as an example,
you have twelve central stones in a smaller circle in
the center, and then you have thirty on the outer
perimeter on the outer circumferential of Stonehengs itself, which is
of course referencing the twelve months of the year and
the thirty day cycle of each month, and a three

(01:56):
hundred and sixty eight year. That's also mirroring what we
saw for the year in Egypt as well as in
Mesopotamia and the Sumerian culture and ancient peoples of Acadia.
So if we look at that, you have to wonder,
how do they all use this three hundred and sixty
day calendar? And you start to figure out that that
just raises a lot more questions about how much interconnectivity

(02:19):
there was between these ancient cultures that we thought were
completely disparate and separated by vast distances.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
On top of the calendar years of ancient cultures, I know,
a lot of people always ask the how, I mean,
how were these even created back in the day. When
we look at things like stoneheads or the Great Pyramid?
Are we learning more about the infrastructure and the construction
and the things that they were able to do in
order to develop these these systems and develop these things
that we've seen.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I mean, when you look at the you know,
the approximately six and a half million tons that is
the Great Pyramid of Giza and two point three million
actual blocks, each block, you know, weighing an average between
you know, two to ten tons on average, you could
start to figure out, Wait a minute, if this is
the case, how in the heck would they have done

(03:06):
this over a twenty year period period. For them to
have done it over a twenty year period, it would
have taken them to move a block every minute, and
that's just something I can't even fathom, to be honest
with you. And so while there have been many, many
theories about how the Great Pyramids were built and also
how Stone Hunge was built, nobody actually knows because we
couldn't replicate it today.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think about Easter Island with those big heads as well,
if you permit me some latitude, if you will. I
do watch the History Channel. I do sometimes watch the
Ancient Aliens kind of bit. I'm not saying it's Aliens,
but it's aliens. But what do we know about the
origins of the pyramids? Where they built by aliens or
they rocket ships? What do we honestly know at this.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Point, Well, if you listen to sort of the normal
narrative that everyone's taught in schools is that it was
built during Dynastic Egypt about four thousand, five hundred years ago,
for the Great Pyramid and for the other pyramids approximately
in the same timeline. So you have Kufu Pyramid, which
was a grandfather, a son, and a grandson, and so

(04:04):
you have the second pyramid, which is Capere, and the
third pyramid was Mencari Pyramid. Now, those pyramids we think
are built, you know, roughly in the same time proximity
within you know, give or take one hundred or so years.
But is there a larger story here. One of the
things that I did in my research was found that
using the slope angles of the pyramids themselves on Giza Plateau,

(04:26):
I was able to find a musical ratio that defined
how each of those pyramids were built. It wasn't just
that mencare, you know, a grandson had squandered his fortune
and ended up with the smallest pyramid. The reason it
was that way was because the slope angle was defining
a musical interval ratio, which was basically making musical tones
a you know, octave as well as a unison note

(04:48):
and then into what we call the major third and
then up to the perfect fifth and perfect fourth. So
basically the sound of this is just like that, and
that's literally the music of the pyramids. Because the ratios
mathematically are perfect five over four, four over three, three
over two and two over one pie for the great

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pyramid that defined the slope angles the exact specific slope angles.
So this doesn't imply to me that it was a father,
a son, and a grandson, but rather a musical in
a way art installation that was at least telling us
their knowledge of harmonic ratio. Wow, and to me, that's
a very advanced concept, and that's fascinating.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I definitely learned something new today when it comes to that,
because I've never heard that analogy before. When we're talking
about them, Robert, real quick, I mean, if listeners are
hearing all of this and going, wow, this all sounds
pretty cool, I'd love to learn more.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Tell us what they.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Can expect at guya's fourth Annual Ancient Civilizations Conference.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well if this conference, I know all the other presenters
very well, they're amazing and it's going to blow people away.
You're talking about the very cutting edge of archaeology and
putting the pieces together of our lost hit.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
I just got back from Turkey where I was reviewing
several new sites, some of which might actually be, you know,
challenging the age of the oldest places in the world,
including go Beckley Teppe, which we know to be about
twelve thousand years old and even potentially older, and some
of the other sites on the eastern part of Turkey.
I know these things are going to get discussed like

(06:21):
keV Callesi, like Chavistepi, et cetera. This is a very
exciting future for us because it's literally opening up new
vistas for us to understand our ancient past. And you're
going to hear a lot about Giza Plata, and in
particular recently you have the Beyondy and Malanga data which
come out of the star scan, which showed this deep,

(06:43):
deep infrastructure structural pylons, you know, caseons can go very
very far underneath Cafe Pyramid, which are now the data
has now been extended to include all three pyramids, that
all three pyramids seem to have similar cassons underneath them,
to extend as much as two k blometers underneath the
pyramid complex. To me, that's really mind blowing. And the

(07:04):
challenges the very notion of who built it. Could it
possibly have been dynastic Egyptians or was it something else
or was it something off planet? You know, these are
all questions that we're continuing to have and the more
we find out, the more we feel we actually the
more we feel that we don't actually know what our
history was. And then also in my own research, I'm
going to be presenting on the potential discovery of two

(07:26):
new pyramids on the Giza Plateau using this musical harmonic
ratio and maps from the fifteenth, seventeenth, and eighteenth centuries
by three different cartographers that were spread by time and
space that never contacted each other. They all showed four
and five pyramids on the iconic Giza Plateau, which is
known to have three main pyramids only. And when I

(07:46):
went there in December, I was able to locate blocks
protruding out of large mounds covered in sand that are
potentially hidden pyramids literally hidden in plain sight for the
fourth and fifth positions of pyramids that would be matching
the maps that I found. And in addition that they
that they also matched up with satellite photography and they

(08:08):
show protrusions and mounds and blocks sticking out of the
of the ground in those places and also matching the
missing ratios to complete a scale of music. So to me,
this is very exciting research and I really hope that
the Egyptian government takes this to heart and and and
starts to really excavate these these new potential pyramids and

(08:29):
tells us what it is. Because literally, when you look
at the photographs and when you see it on the
video that I'm a presenting, you're going to see literally
what look like to be pyramids under the sand, with
pyramid shaped mounds of sand and sand dunes on top
of them.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
It is fascinating forbid knowledge, deeper, truth to the past.
It's the fourth Annual Ancient Civilization's Conference, and one of
the speakers is going to be this gentleman. It's the
scientist and un entrepreneur. It's Robert Edward Grant. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Tickets to attend or stream the event to the fourth
Annual Ancient Civilizations Conference this weekend can be available on
gaya's website.
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