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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is Colorado's Morning News. President Trump says thail and
all during pregnancy can lead to an increase in autism.
So take in tile and all is not good. All right,
I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's not good.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But many doctors worry this could now create more risks
during pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Joining us now on the KWA Common Spirit Health Hotline
is Jennifer Korbs, executive director of the Autism Society of Colorado. Jennifer,
thank you so much for your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good morning, I'm delighted to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What was your initial reaction when you heard the announcement
yesterday saying that the FDA will now notify physicians that
the use of thailand all during pregnancy can be associated
with an increased risk of autism. Is there any aspect
of that that you do support or what concerns do
you have?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Sure, I have a lot of concerns. What we do
support is continued high quality research around autism and supporting
mothers and pregnancy and healthy pregnancies. We are all all
about that. That's something everybody should be doing. What we
are not in support of is a person with no
(01:07):
medical background using very science that is not founded in
any kind of sound science and saying to the entire
world that this is causing autism. That is something so
dangerous and very hard for moms, for parents, for anybody
(01:32):
to hear. That's something that is actually very beneficial in
pregnancy is causing autism.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Jennifer, I'll ask you more directly than in your time
with the Autism Society and what you know and the
expert you talk to, is there any connection link direct,
indirect the use of a sea of minifit the brand
name tail and al that would lead to higher risks
of autism.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
At this point, there are no sound science that indicates
that that is any correlation. The most recent study is
in the Journal of American Medicine is in twenty twenty
four where they studied more than two million cases and
they found that there was no correlation between thailan AAL
in pregnancy and autism. And I tend to lean into
(02:18):
the experts at the Journal of American Medicine, where they
have very found science as the lead and the guide
to sort of help us uncover what's going on here
with this information. These studies have sort of been around
for about the last ten years or so, and it's
sort of come in and out of pop culture around
(02:38):
autism a few times, and so in twenty twenty four
they really looked at it and found no correlation.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
On a personal note to what ripple effects do you
believe this announcement could have on pregnant mothers, those trying
to decide what they want to do, what they can take,
can't take, just the overall effects both mentally and physically
of what they want to do to make sure they're
making the best move for their child.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, parenting is hard work. And as a
parent of the child with autism, myself and the person
who has gone through pregnancy and all of the pieces,
it is so complicated, and we want people to be
able to make informed medical decisions that are right for
themselves and their bodies. And we want them to know
that they should be trusting their pediatrician and their gynecologists
(03:27):
and I mean they're obstetrician and whoever is taking care
of them during pregnancy, because actually the reverse is true.
Not treating underlying fevers or underlying causes, which Thailand all
is very safe for, can actually have a significant impact
on pregnancy and unborn babies. But we don't want moms
to feel scared or worried that they are causing autism
(03:50):
in their unborn babies and not treat conditions that need
to be treated that are actually far more at risk
by not allowing yourself to take medicine that is safe
and talking to your doctor in a way that feels
safe and supported for moms and pregnancy, like it's hard enough.
That is a hard enough season of life, and then
to have to worry about every single thing you're doing,
(04:12):
that's so much.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Extra, Jennifer, I know we have more diagnoses of autism
now than we did even ten to fifteen years ago,
and from what I understand from experts and correct me
if I'm wrong, it's because we're better at diagnosing it.
But I also am curious because it is such a
difficult diagnoses, difficult to navigate, which you know firsthand, which
our news editor, you know, Brenda knows firsthand as well.
(04:36):
Do you think because it is so confusing and complicated
that people are trying almost too hard to lay some
sort of blame, whether it's vaccines, medicine, on the cause
because they're so confused by it. They want to find
some reason or rationale for it. But they can't, so
they're blaming other things. Just I don't know whether to
say shate or make them feel better about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Sure, I think that that's human nature a little bit right.
When you have have an increase in prevalence, which is
not due to more children with autism. We are so
much better at diagnosing it and finding it. That is
the reason that it's not occurring more regularly. But when
you see an increase like that, I think it's human
nature to want to figure out why, why is this happening?
(05:19):
Why can't we pin down what's going on? And as
a parent, I wish I had a cause. I mean,
that would be so settling and reassuring to me to
know that as a mother, nothing I.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Did caused this, Jennifer.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The more we go ahead, no go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The more the more we chase that rabbit down all
of these places that are not good science, the more
we're missing the opportunity to really study good science and
keep trying to figure this out, which we've been doing
for decades.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Executive director of the Autism Society of Colorado. It's Jennifer Korbes. Jennifer,
appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
This morning.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Thank you so much. You'll have a great day.
It is Colorado's Morning News. President Trump says thail and
all during pregnancy can lead to an increase in autism.
So take in tile and all is not good. All right,
I'll say it.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
It's not good.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
But many doctors worry this could now create more risks
during pregnancy.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Joining us now on the KWA Common Spirit Health Hotline
is Jennifer Korbs, executive director of the Autism Society of Colorado. Jennifer,
thank you so much for your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good morning, I'm delighted to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What was your initial reaction when you heard the announcement
yesterday saying that the FDA will now notify physicians that
the use of thailand all during pregnancy can be associated
with an increased risk of autism. Is there any aspect
of that that you do support or what concerns do
you have?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Sure, I have a lot of concerns. What we do
support is continued high quality research around autism and supporting
mothers and pregnancy and healthy pregnancies. We are all all
about that. That's something everybody should be doing. What we
are not in support of is a person with no
(01:07):
medical background using very science that is not founded in
any kind of sound science and saying to the entire
world that this is causing autism. That is something so
dangerous and very hard for moms, for parents, for anybody
(01:32):
to hear. That's something that is actually very beneficial in
pregnancy is causing autism.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Jennifer, I'll ask you more directly than in your time
with the Autism Society and what you know and the
expert you talk to, is there any connection link direct,
indirect the use of a sea of minifit the brand
name tail and al that would lead to higher risks
of autism.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
At this point, there are no sound science that indicates
that that is any correlation. The most recent study is
in the Journal of American Medicine is in twenty twenty
four where they studied more than two million cases and
they found that there was no correlation between thailan AAL
in pregnancy and autism. And I tend to lean into
(02:18):
the experts at the Journal of American Medicine, where they
have very found science as the lead and the guide
to sort of help us uncover what's going on here
with this information. These studies have sort of been around
for about the last ten years or so, and it's
sort of come in and out of pop culture around
(02:38):
autism a few times, and so in twenty twenty four
they really looked at it and found no correlation.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
On a personal note to what ripple effects do you
believe this announcement could have on pregnant mothers, those trying
to decide what they want to do, what they can take,
can't take, just the overall effects both mentally and physically
of what they want to do to make sure they're
making the best move for their child.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, parenting is hard work. And as a
parent of the child with autism, myself and the person
who has gone through pregnancy and all of the pieces,
it is so complicated, and we want people to be
able to make informed medical decisions that are right for
themselves and their bodies. And we want them to know
that they should be trusting their pediatrician and their gynecologists
(03:27):
and I mean they're obstetrician and whoever is taking care
of them during pregnancy, because actually the reverse is true.
Not treating underlying fevers or underlying causes, which Thailand all
is very safe for, can actually have a significant impact
on pregnancy and unborn babies. But we don't want moms
to feel scared or worried that they are causing autism
(03:50):
in their unborn babies and not treat conditions that need
to be treated that are actually far more at risk
by not allowing yourself to take medicine that is safe
and talking to your doctor in a way that feels
safe and supported for moms and pregnancy, like it's hard enough.
That is a hard enough season of life, and then
to have to worry about every single thing you're doing,
(04:12):
that's so much.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Extra, Jennifer, I know we have more diagnoses of autism
now than we did even ten to fifteen years ago,
and from what I understand from experts and correct me
if I'm wrong, it's because we're better at diagnosing it.
But I also am curious because it is such a
difficult diagnoses, difficult to navigate, which you know firsthand, which
our news editor, you know, Brenda knows firsthand as well.
(04:36):
Do you think because it is so confusing and complicated
that people are trying almost too hard to lay some
sort of blame, whether it's vaccines, medicine, on the cause
because they're so confused by it. They want to find
some reason or rationale for it. But they can't, so
they're blaming other things. Just I don't know whether to
say shate or make them feel better about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Sure, I think that that's human nature a little bit right.
When you have have an increase in prevalence, which is
not due to more children with autism. We are so
much better at diagnosing it and finding it. That is
the reason that it's not occurring more regularly. But when
you see an increase like that, I think it's human
nature to want to figure out why, why is this happening?
(05:19):
Why can't we pin down what's going on? And as
a parent, I wish I had a cause. I mean,
that would be so settling and reassuring to me to
know that as a mother, nothing I.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Did caused this, Jennifer.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
The more we go ahead, no go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
The more the more we chase that rabbit down all
of these places that are not good science, the more
we're missing the opportunity to really study good science and
keep trying to figure this out, which we've been doing
for decades.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Executive director of the Autism Society of Colorado. It's Jennifer Korbes. Jennifer,
appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
This morning.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Thank you so much. You'll have a great day.
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