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Speaker 1 (00:00):
President Biden said it will be a smooth transition from
his administration to a second Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Those words in front of the camera, but what we
was shared and talked about in private when the cameras
weren't on ABC News. White House corresponding Karen Travers joints
us Now in the KWA Common Spirit of Health Hotline Karen.
At least in front of the cameras, the men were cordial.
Did it seem since here to you from your perch?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, I actually think it did. And you know, and
it was really striking to see in this very brief
photo op, the pleasantries, the handshakes, the smiles. I actually,
you know, because we look at like every little thing
about body language and words. When reporters all started shouting questions,
you know, the two seem to kind of share a
little bit of a joke about you know, everybody's shouting
questions as we were in the Oval office yesterday, reporters there.
(00:42):
But you know, I think the message from President Biden
was this is going to be a smooth transition. He said,
We're going to do everything we can to make sure
you're accommodated and have what you need. And the President
elect said that politics is tough and in many cases,
he said, it's not a very nice world, but it's
a nice world today and he appreciates it very much.
(01:02):
He said that again that he appreciates that this transition
will be as smooth as it can get. You've just
got the sense that like they get it. They have
been in the political arena. They have said some pretty
you know, tough things about each other. That doesn't mean
that they have walked back those tough things, but that
this is now about moving forward. And Karine Jean Pierre
later said that this moment is not about the president
(01:24):
or about the president elect. It's about doing what's right
for the American people, and that is an orderly transition
to make sure that the incoming team is set up
and ready to start working. On January twentieth.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Karen, how long were reporters in the room for before
President elect Trump and President Biden went and talked to
other topics? And do we know what was discussed?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was about two minutes of a photo up really fast,
you know, Like I said, they both talked very briefly.
People tried to ask some questions, they didn't engage. We
were disappointed in that we would have love for them
to sit there and take some questions. But then they
sat down for nearly two hours together in the Oval Office,
and the White House was really pointing to that to
(02:07):
show that it was a good meeting. That they didn't
shake hands in front of the cameras and then say, Okay,
now we're staring at each other, we have nothing to say,
let's just walk away. They actually got down to some business.
Karine Jean Pierre described it as very cordial, very gracious,
substantive and exchange of views. She said the former president
now President elect, came in with a list of things
(02:28):
that he wanted to talk to biting about and that
he wanted to kind of get his take on. They
also brought in others. The chief of staff from the
White House, Jeff Ziines was there, President Elect Trump's chief
of staff incoming, Susie Wiles, she was there. We saw
photos of all of them, the four of them sitting
together in the Oval Office, and it was a conversation
about national security and domestic policy issues. But Ukraine, we know,
(02:51):
was on the agenda. President underlining his view that the
US standing with and supporting Ukraine is in America's national
security interest, and the White House says that something he's
very much is trying to impress upon the incoming team.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Karen, anything else that they discussed, I know they talked
about the topics you did, But was there anything else
that you gleaned from your reporting that that was discussed,
Whether there was any even domestic philosophies and policies that
were in place or may get overturned.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You know, we didn't, excuse me, it didn't heer specifically
on the domestic side of things. There was, certainly they
were all more candid talking about the foreign policy aspect.
They talked about the Middle East, no surprise there. And
you know, later the President met with some of the
families of the Americans still held hostage by Hamas. That
was a later tough meeting for the White House to have,
(03:39):
and that is of course a big top priority still
for this administration. We're told that also came up during
the Ogle Office meeting and something that they would like
to see. Could they work with the income and Trump
team try and keep pushing this through over the next
sixty eight ish days. I guess we are until inauguration day.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Karen, you have much more of an inside look of
what's going on at the White House. Have you heard
or overheard any talks about the latest appointments that President
Elect Trump has been making for his cabinet.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know, the White House will not really be saying like, look,
they need the space to be able to announce their
picks and we will let them do that. But I
will say that yesterday in Washington, there was a lot
of shock at the announcement by the President elect that
he is nominating Matt Gates, the Florida congressman, to be
his pick for attorney general. We were told that when
(04:25):
Republicans on Capitol Hill were meeting behind closed doors when
the news came out, people getting it obviously on their phones.
There were audible gafts in the room at Gates to
be a g This is just very surprising. He wasn't
on the short list. He wasn't somebody that had been
vetted for the position based on sources that we've been
talking to. So it was very surprising. But you know,
(04:46):
we'll see if this nomination goes through. There are a
lot of questions in the Senate yesterday among influential senators
that he doesn't have the votes that he needs to
get through. But you know one thing about Donald Trump,
when he picked somebody, he was loyal to them too,
and wants to get that nomination.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Across ABC News White House Correspondent, it's Karen Travers. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I have a great day.
President Biden said it will be a smooth transition from
his administration to a second Trump administration.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Those words in front of the camera, but what we
was shared and talked about in private when the cameras
weren't on ABC News. White House corresponding Karen Travers joints
us Now in the KWA Common Spirit of Health Hotline Karen.
At least in front of the cameras, the men were cordial.
Did it seem since here to you from your perch?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Yeah, I actually think it did. And you know, and
it was really striking to see in this very brief
photo op, the pleasantries, the handshakes, the smiles. I actually,
you know, because we look at like every little thing
about body language and words. When reporters all started shouting questions,
you know, the two seem to kind of share a
little bit of a joke about you know, everybody's shouting
questions as we were in the Oval office yesterday, reporters there.
(00:42):
But you know, I think the message from President Biden
was this is going to be a smooth transition. He said,
We're going to do everything we can to make sure
you're accommodated and have what you need. And the President
elect said that politics is tough and in many cases,
he said, it's not a very nice world, but it's
a nice world today and he appreciates it very much.
(01:02):
He said that again that he appreciates that this transition
will be as smooth as it can get. You've just
got the sense that like they get it. They have
been in the political arena. They have said some pretty
you know, tough things about each other. That doesn't mean
that they have walked back those tough things, but that
this is now about moving forward. And Karine Jean Pierre
later said that this moment is not about the president
(01:24):
or about the president elect. It's about doing what's right
for the American people, and that is an orderly transition
to make sure that the incoming team is set up
and ready to start working. On January twentieth.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Karen, how long were reporters in the room for before
President elect Trump and President Biden went and talked to
other topics? And do we know what was discussed?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
It was about two minutes of a photo up really fast,
you know, Like I said, they both talked very briefly.
People tried to ask some questions, they didn't engage. We
were disappointed in that we would have love for them
to sit there and take some questions. But then they
sat down for nearly two hours together in the Oval Office,
and the White House was really pointing to that to
(02:07):
show that it was a good meeting. That they didn't
shake hands in front of the cameras and then say, Okay,
now we're staring at each other, we have nothing to say,
let's just walk away. They actually got down to some business.
Karine Jean Pierre described it as very cordial, very gracious,
substantive and exchange of views. She said the former president
now President elect, came in with a list of things
(02:28):
that he wanted to talk to biting about and that
he wanted to kind of get his take on. They
also brought in others. The chief of staff from the
White House, Jeff Ziines was there, President Elect Trump's chief
of staff incoming, Susie Wiles, she was there. We saw
photos of all of them, the four of them sitting
together in the Oval Office, and it was a conversation
about national security and domestic policy issues. But Ukraine, we know,
(02:51):
was on the agenda. President underlining his view that the
US standing with and supporting Ukraine is in America's national
security interest, and the White House says that something he's
very much is trying to impress upon the incoming team.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Karen, anything else that they discussed, I know they talked
about the topics you did, But was there anything else
that you gleaned from your reporting that that was discussed,
Whether there was any even domestic philosophies and policies that
were in place or may get overturned.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
You know, we didn't, excuse me, it didn't heer specifically
on the domestic side of things. There was, certainly they
were all more candid talking about the foreign policy aspect.
They talked about the Middle East, no surprise there. And
you know, later the President met with some of the
families of the Americans still held hostage by Hamas. That
was a later tough meeting for the White House to have,
(03:39):
and that is of course a big top priority still
for this administration. We're told that also came up during
the Ogle Office meeting and something that they would like
to see. Could they work with the income and Trump
team try and keep pushing this through over the next
sixty eight ish days. I guess we are until inauguration day.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Karen, you have much more of an inside look of
what's going on at the White House. Have you heard
or overheard any talks about the latest appointments that President
Elect Trump has been making for his cabinet.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know, the White House will not really be saying like, look,
they need the space to be able to announce their
picks and we will let them do that. But I
will say that yesterday in Washington, there was a lot
of shock at the announcement by the President elect that
he is nominating Matt Gates, the Florida congressman, to be
his pick for attorney general. We were told that when
(04:25):
Republicans on Capitol Hill were meeting behind closed doors when
the news came out, people getting it obviously on their phones.
There were audible gafts in the room at Gates to
be a g This is just very surprising. He wasn't
on the short list. He wasn't somebody that had been
vetted for the position based on sources that we've been
talking to. So it was very surprising. But you know,
(04:46):
we'll see if this nomination goes through. There are a
lot of questions in the Senate yesterday among influential senators
that he doesn't have the votes that he needs to
get through. But you know one thing about Donald Trump,
when he picked somebody, he was loyal to them too,
and wants to get that nomination.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Across ABC News White House Correspondent, it's Karen Travers. Thank you.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I have a great day.
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