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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Froze a fake punt and it is caught on the
left side by Marvin Mims.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Riley Dixon. We talked about the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Willing to take some chances, and Dixon took a step up,
drew the defenders till him, and then floated one to Mems,
who made a great catch, a gain of fifteen and
the sticks will move and the Broncos offense is back
on the field.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You realize that that first down was one of thirteen
total first downs for the Broncos today versus the twenty
six of the Bills, and honestly, the Bills probably could
have had more. They had some explosive plays in there.
They kind of did whatever they wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
They went into milk the clock mode. Forty percent of
the Broncos offense came on their opening two and a
half minute drive.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Thirteen first talk.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We were talking about the defense getting bashed in do
the offense didn't show up for this thing either. This
is a total team let down unless you're Riley Dixon
throwing that pass to Marvin Mims.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
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We're on till eight o'clock tonight. He has really Dixon
make a touchdown saving tackle too. He's like the MVP
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of the game. Yes, Riley Dixon made a touchdown saving
on a punt return. It was came back for I
think it was Kalil Care actually for like twenty three yards.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But yeah, the way Shandon's goots the MVP much much
worse of anything he touches.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:51):
So good to have shann but you keep up with
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till eight o'clock today. Three oh three seven, three eighty
five eighty five. The Green Bay Packers finally score a touchdown.
It looked like Josh Jacobs was in. Initially they ruled
him short as they should have and then he got
into the second try this first thing goal from like
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the one foot yard line. Good game though so far,
sort of the best best game of the playoffs so far,
We're being honest.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And by the way, the the seven one nine here
on the text line said hot take. Albright said that
Joe Lombardi would never be with the Denver Broncos. But
I said the opposite.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I said the opposite.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
When Shot Pig get hired, I was like, I hope
you like offensive coordinator Joel Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'll defend you on that one. That was the time
I look at that one backwards. Well, most of the time,
I'm I'm looking for reasons to make sure to keep
you on track with things, and especially when you try
to move the goalpost. No, that was the first thing
out of my mouth this one. We were doing Broncos
country tonight at the time before we got hired. Yeah,
and I was like, hey, you want you like Joe
Lombardi's O s and this is what we're gonna get.
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And that's that's exactly what Let's go back to the phones.
Three oh three seven one, three eighty five eighty five,
No skillets on hold, lot to get the skeleton in
a second. Yes, only old bct O Jos. Step But Steven, Steven,
you've been holding longer. What's up, Steven? How are you hey?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
I's it going, guys?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Good? Thanks for holding?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
You know, as a as a Connecticut Broncos fan, I
feel personally slated by the NFL having to deal with
the dynasty in New England and then now a new
dynasty in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But uh, right.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Now, I feel like this season was a big success.
You know, going into it, I felt like, as long
as Boat looked good and we won, you know, five
to seven games, who cares as long as Boat looks
good and we have a path going forward. So going
into it, I didn't really have high expectations went total
wise and we made the playoffs. So really I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I dig that. I like that perspective, Stephen, Thank you
so much for the call. Yeah, and that's It's been
echoed by a lot of Broncos fans here on our
text line as well on Twitter, a lot of a
lot more optimism, positivity, big picture again, Ben, I think
we can we can have both conversations after a brutal loss,
after getting beat down the way you did. You can
be frustrated about that and then simultaneously look at the
(04:09):
big picture. Ben, You've you've run the gamut of reactions
so far. You opened your time here with a big
picture of view. Would I think literally nobody in Denver
expected you to do that? And then you've simultaneously, over
the last hour, come back to your frustrations with the
play calling and the execution and uh yeah, so you've
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given us a little bit of both. You've run the gamut.
Well does that? I mean it's you know, it's what
you do.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Three hundred and sixty degrees of coverage here and that's
just not the temperature that takes.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh goodness, back to the phone, Skellets You're out next
here on Broncos React. What's up Skellets Heit, Well, that.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Last hand he was spot on, except for Kansas City
being a dynasty. Because the dynasty has Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Nobody will beat Baltimore.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Now, as far as this last game goes, this Bronco loss,
it's not that big of a deal because I was
in the sport book about three weeks ago and uh
they had Buffalo favorite to win it all.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
So that's not the end of the world. Supposedly, Buffalo
is supposed to be.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
The best team of football, but I really.
Speaker 9 (05:17):
Think Baltimore is gonna win it.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Any of you gamblers out there, you ended up losing today,
get in your car, go up to Blackhawk, walk on
in there, tell him Benny's grand baby sent you there,
and you're.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
There to make a boomerang Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Bet you bet on Buffalo the money's coming back, and boomerang.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Him back on him onto you.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
And if any of you gamblers think you can paint
on baby Jack, just.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Go ahead and try ball it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The text I skillet skillet. I uh.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It's be a good matchup though, both More and Buffalo.
It's gonna be a good match up. I mean, what's
we put aside the taste of this one? You know
that would be a good matchup. You got the two guys.
I think everybody thinks it could be the MVP Josh Allen,
Lamore Jackson going going against each other. It's gonna be
a fun game. Whoever can beat Kansas City I don't
even care. I'm not sure either, but Baltimore probably stands
a better chance to beating in Kansas City than Buffalo does.
I think Buffalo. Buffalo can beat Kansas City. Man, I
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don't know. This is this is one of those ones where, well,
I think everybody just hates Kansas City so they want
to see him lose. I don't think that Houston is
gonna be the one to get it done.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So hey, man, if they are, we're Texans fans here
in Denver at this moment, we're fifteen.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I took a ticket on Kansas City and h in
Philadelphia to make the super Bowl just because I was like,
all right, this is this is probably free money at
this point.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Wod be interesting? I could see that. So they're breaking
that way. Mary, you're up next to a Broncos react
with Ryan Edwards and Benjamin Allbright.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
What's up, Mary, Hi, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Guys on you do a great job I have.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
Is there any.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Comment about the referee going over to the sideline talking
to Josh Allen, patting him.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
On the back, apologizing coming back out.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
What was that was he but apologizing, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They missed an obvious call.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Patser tan blatantly held there tight end, almost flung them
to the ground right in front of the referee, and
they didn't call it. And that's when Buffalo settled for
a field goal I believe it was, and they did
not call that play, and Josh was hot under the
collar and he said some explatives to the referee and
the referee went over there to Josh and said, hey,
you can't be yelling. You can't be hollering. It's Bill Vinovich.
She said, you can't be hollering like that. Can't be
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doing that. Patted him on the shoulder pads and said,
don't do that. Don't cost it me anymore. We miss some,
we make some, but don't don't cost it me like
that anymore. I gotta flag you, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And my second question is why do we have an
offensive coordinator if if if he is not having any
input into calling the plays.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
For the game.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, and this it's not completely unique to just Denver.
I mean you have an example here with Green Bay.
They have offensive coordinator, but the head coach calls the plays.
That that's that's pretty typical. I think it's just sort
of like your right hand person that sort of helps
with some of the designs, some of the coaching making
sure that when you get certain position groups that those
guys can can be the checks and balances it. It's
(08:20):
actually more common than you think, especially with head coaches
that call the plays.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, Andy Reid does the same thing. Andy recalls plays
and he's got no c yep. So you know, it's
really it's more of like it's a title that you
give somebody. Yeah, and then you know that person really
is acting more as your organizer, your lieutenant, you know,
if you're calling the plays on that side of the ball.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Okay, well, we'll look forward to next season.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
We will thank Mary, thank you for the call, appreciate it.
We will look forward to next season because it's quite
literally all we can do. But I feel better going
into this offseason than I have in many years. Ben, Yeah,
I think so. I think there's a I think there's
a sense of relief when you think you've got the
quarterback and I think we're at there. We don't know
we've got the quarterback. We pretty much think we do.
(09:05):
Well know next year. You know, it takes it takes
a good twenty thirty starts to really know. I mean,
you know, there were a lot of people that thought
Nick Foles was the guy. After after sixteen starts, we
saw that wasn't you know. RG three started off so
hot then, you know, and then that plummeted through the floor.
I'm not wishing that on ball. I'm just saying, don't
don't rush to don't rush to coronate. Just as people
rush to call people a bus, don't rush to coronate either.
(09:27):
There you know, waiting for you to call it bow
knicks a bus four weeks through the season. Look like
idiots now, you know. In the same way I was like,
you don't need to rush to coronate just yet. I
think we found the guy. I believe that we probably have,
but you want to make sure. Give it the offseason.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Let defenses kind of catch up to him a little bit,
and we'll see what the counter punch is.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I like him.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I think he's fiery. I think he's gritty. I love
a quarterback it's willing to lower the shoulder a little bit,
you know. I Bose Bose talk a little trash this week. Honestly,
I think it's good. I mean, in this particular case,
you got boat. Racially, it's kind of embarrassing, but I
think it's good to have a quarterback that leads like that.
It has a little passion to him, you know, for
all the whatever you think about Russell Wilson. That's certainly
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a complaint is that you just never felt like, you know,
you never felt like he was invested because he didn't
feel the passion.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It was a nice makeup call that gave him the
Ty Johnson touchdown.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
That was a cool I mean, unless you say the
ball was moving the ankle, the ankle clearly didn't touch.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I've got a great photo by a Buffalo photog. I
saw it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
It's like h D four K or whatever. You can
clearly see the ankle didn't touch. If you think the
ball was moving, I'm not gonna argue that one with you.
It looked a little bit like it was moving to me.
But they didn't need that call at the end of
the day.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, no, they didn't. They didn't. But you know,
after he you know, again to Mary's point, it was
a weird It sat weird with a lot of people
to have Bill Vinovich going over talking to Josh Allen
and being like putting his hand on the show. He
looked nice for the TV, but what he was really
telling him was quick cussing at me. Dude, right, But
he's like, hey, you could hear the you can see
the patting on the chest by bad are bad kind
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of thing? Was there?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Bad?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
They missed a blatant call. I mean, like to be fair,
I mean, I'm not trying to dog the Broncos, but
Pat Tartan absolutely should have been flagged on that play.
He just slung him around. Miscalls happened.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
They do.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
See the head referee go over and talk to the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, when the quarterback starts wolfing like that, you've seen
it before. I mean we've seen it with with Mahomes
or you know, the good quarterbacks in the league. They
get that bow will get there eventually. If he's the
guy everybody thinks he is five.
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
The gun on third den goal takes the snap, looks right,
bounces around, still in the pocket, now points left. He
tries to jump and jumps right into the grasp of
a Bronco defender and down he goes.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That was DJ Jones.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Great coverage by the Broncos in tight quarters from the
six yard line, Allen had time. He was pointing for
receiver in the end zone, then tried to jump past
Zach Allen and when he did, he jumped right to
the grasp of DJ Jones.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
DJ Jones a free agent after this year, so not
really sure what his future is here with Denver. But
of course they have some decisions to make and some
guys that they're gonna want to bring back. So it'll
be fascinating to watch all that play out. I think
to Ben's point, Benjamin Albright studio with me till eight o'clock,
I think your point is that they're probably gonna be
(12:31):
looking at either free agency like a Malcolm Roach type player,
maybe a couple more of those, and order the draft
to look to get a little beef here there on
the defensive line.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I don't think you're paying DJ, who, you you know,
was previously in a different role in a different system.
You know, before this system, he's not really a guy
that you view as a nose tackle. He sort of
transitioned and played that this year. But that's not really
his you know, his home, and so you know, I
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think I think you're gonna see they'll probably go to
the draft for this, to be honest with you, and
and you can there's some guys that you can get.
I mean, Mason Graham's gonna go before you have a
chance to pick. But there's some guys you can get
a little bit later that that fits what they do.
His teammate, Kenth Grant is somebody that you could probably
get a little bit later. You get the the kid
you'll get see him in the National Championship Game. Tyley
williams Uh is somebody that you could you could probably
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get there. I really like the guy out of Kentucky,
Dean Walker. There are some guys out there that you
can get to fit what they wanted to nose, and
you can get them later in the draft and.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
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Speaker 4 (13:39):
Hi Wan, Hello, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
We're doing good man?
Speaker 8 (13:42):
How are you blessed them?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Blessed?
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (13:46):
First of all, there's a lot of been a lot
of good comments, you know what I mean, and some truth.
I think it all went bad when that field will
kick it does not know how to kick the ball,
and they hit the damn up right, made that dunk
son and it just went downhill, just like when Peyton Manny.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Did the.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
Got the safety in the Super Bowl. I mean, you
can't can't really say nothing too good about the offense
because they that first drive was really good. The running
game looked decent, wasn't amazing, But you can't stop nobody
if your defense was on the field the majority of
the game.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, the defense had himself time getting off the field.
Offense didn't really do their part, especially in the second
half with the back to back three Now it's I
mean it was it was a combination. I'll push back
a little bit. Will Let's is a really good kicker.
He was really good this season.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
He was.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
I'm I'm not.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Saying he's bad.
Speaker 10 (14:36):
I'm just saying he was bad at that moment. He
should have made the field goal right in the half,
know what I mean, Just like in the San Diego
game that it went the same way they had they
kicked the ball off and they got that extra penalty,
and then they got the field goal and they went
just down from there. He's not a horrible kicker, Don't
get me wrong. I'm glad you did the job and
could have did a better job today. But just like
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the offense didn't do a better job today, right, he
had to do it on everybody to the offense, will let's,
will Let's.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
The coaching wasn't there.
Speaker 10 (15:04):
Neither we thought it was gonna be. But as well,
I'm so happy that we did great this year, you
know what I mean. My accromy has always been a
breeze Bronco's rule. Everybody else sucks, so you know what
I mean. It's just no matter what we win, lose
a draw, We're Bronco fans, no matter what. We're stunk
for the last years and we have not been in
the playoffs at all, with with Russell Wilson, with like
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von Miller he.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Named all the quarterbacks, know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
We have not been in the.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
Playoffs for nine years, and that's annoying. At least we
are there. It gives bow Knicks a chance to say, hey,
I'm gonna be able to come back here again and
understand what to do in the pressure next year when
if he didn't even go to the playoffs, Oh well,
next year he gets to go.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I think he'll go.
Speaker 10 (15:43):
I think he'll go next year, and I think he'll go.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
To the third year.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
He's just gonna be more and more impressive. We're gonna
get a line, some defensive linement, and who knows, hopefully
we could three p like the Chiefs trying to do.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It'd be awesome, right, absolutely one, thanks for the call man.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
First of all, with with LUTs, I mean he was
a good kicker most of the season, but that when
it came clutch kick time, there was a bit of
a problem there. CINCINNA Bengals game. You got I believe
it was that he missed one there that would have
been in overtime.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Am I wrong on that? No, you're not wrong on that.
He didn't miss that was the other the other kicker.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
No, what was the one he missed out of stretch?
He missed one down to stretch. I'm trying to remember
who it was. Anyway, there was one he and then
he missed.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The uh thirty one for thirty four. See, I mean
he did well over the course of the season and
then this game.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
But I will say this again, no visiting kicker in
the playoffs has ever hit a fifty plus yard field
goal in Buffalo. Ever, the longest is forty nine, So
you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bag him
too much for that. Plus three points wasn't a difference
in this game. The field goal wasn't a difference in
this game. So we're not sitting here trying to make
him will let's escape goat.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
No, I don't feel like that this one. We're moving
up for Janty or Warren. Inside linebacker, defensive tackle. Safety
will be our other priorities, possibly possibly some of those
in free agency, hoping Chiefs let go of Nick Bolton.
I'd love late on Ransom. I like Ransom the rest
of this though, in fifth round, give Jail a chance
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to compete with Lock.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You talking about Skinner and jj Lock. First of all,
I don't believe we're moving up. Second of all, I
don't believe we'd be moving up for Jante or Warren.
If Warren fell in their lap, maybe, but they're not
going to move. They're not trading up for a time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Let me just start.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're picking around nineteenth, Yeah, trade, and to be honest
with you, I think both those guys are gone before
they pick.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I don't believe that they're moving up. I don't believe
they're moving up, especially in this draft. I don't believe
they're moving up for those guys.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Some of the guys I would say to keep your
eye on you know, I've talked about Maria and Hampton
out of North Carolina. Keep you on Keeep, your eye
on him. That that fits a little bit more of
what Sean Payton traditionally drafts. The other part of this was,
was it Nick Bolton? I would not want to pay
Nick Bolton. Nick Bolton is a downhill only linebacker. He's
not a coverage guy. He's a downhill linebacker. He really
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struggles in coverage. And they've already got guys that did
fit that mold, you know. I mean he's a thumper.
Don't get me wrong, but I know no one Nick Bolton.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
For me this one.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The reality is we never beat a good team outside
of Tampa. We cannot hang with elite teams. I mean
they did hang with the lead teams. Yeah, they hung
with a few. I mean, but they're up on the
Chargers until things kind of fell fell apart. They went
to overtime against the Cincinnati Bengals. They definitely hung with
the but they had a league offense, they had an
elite offense. They were hot at the end of the year,
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and they were one of the lead teams especially and
the defense actually started to show some signs of improvement.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean, there's two ways to look at that. You
could say, you know, we didn't. We only won one
team one game against a team over five hundred, and
that's fair.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I mean, that is fair.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
The other part of this is they handle business against
the teams are supposed to be, you know, And so
that's the thing like you're when you look at it
from a instead of looking at it from from that perspective,
if you go back to hey, wait a minute, crawl, walk, run,
where are we We're in the walk phase right now.
So we're handling the things we're supposed to be handling,
but we're not quite to where we can win the
stuff that did people underestimate or you know that people
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say we're not supposed to win.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Let's see here rolling on the floor laughing. No, you
don't see refs do that very often at all. Mahomes
bratty are the only ones they get that treatment. If
it wasn't Vinovich. This is talking about when Bill Vinovich
went over to Josh Allen on the sideline call from earlier. Yeah,
Alan would have been flagged immediately if it was cussing
at the ref and that ref went over there for
But it was instance. Vinovich lows the broncos he was
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over there apologizing to Alan because that's.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
What it was.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It was not a warning. It was both.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I know that from someone who was on the sideline.
That's where I got that from. You do see it
all the time. You don't see it all the time
because they don't show it on television all the time,
but you do see it all the time, specifically more
with coaches than you do with uh with quarterbacks. But
he went over there to talk to Josh Allen and
told him not to gus anybodymore and then said, yeah,
it's my bad.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
We missed.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, we missed on that one. And they showed it
up on the big screen and that's why Vinovich and
his crew had all seen it. There's your tan holding
call that should have been called. It's just an it's
an optics thing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I mean it's not get it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Fans are going to try to point to that, but
we don't what then, Broncos do. We don't want it
about rest. Let let's stuff go. Look, you look small
and petty when you whine about the refs.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I hate I hate that. Well you can hate it.
I on my program here, I allow a little bit
of that because I understand in the moment it's it's
frustrating and it certainly feels as though not that it
really made the difference in the outcome of the game.
But there are some moments where you feel like a
bad call about bounce. I mean, you know you're Sean Payton,
for example, and I know you like to hold it
(20:22):
against him that he only went to one so he
got ripped off on Nicoleral of all people, right by
that exact crew. So would you have said in the
post game after that, we can't whine about the refs.
I don't think that's a game deciding play.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That's wildly different flag the non flag thing that, you know, whatever,
but that game deciding final seconds of the game, no
call on something that was egregious.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Sometimes there are game deciding flags, Ben, And that's my points.
Very narrow, specific instances where it's a season ender. Sure, listen,
I'm not saying this specific moment really changed the outcome
of the game. I can see the gripe from Broncos fans.
I think they also siltaneously can acknowledge it didn't change
the outcome of the game by the fact that Bill
Vinovitch went over there and maybe they did give them
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a liddle of a makeup touchdown to Ty Johnson. Whatever,
they won thirty one to seven. It's like not that.
But I'm saying there are moments in games and during
Broncos React for three to six hours whenever we do this,
if fans want to grouse a little bit about the refs,
I'll allow it.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
When you get to BCT you don't have to, That's fine.
I mean, if that's what you want to spend your
time doing. I just I'm telling you you look. We
look small and petty when people do that as a
fan base.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Go ahead, complain all you want on my show, Josh,
You're up next year on Broncos React. What's up, Josh?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Not much? How are you guys tonight?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Good man? What's going on?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (21:39):
Really quick? A couple things first, when young team gets
the playoffs, this is awesome the result. It's the experience
they get from the game. People need to realize that.
I think Akman and the Cowboys even I think they
took a beating one of their first playoff games when
they first got in. So it's that experience you get
from and people lose sight of that. The second thing,
and I think, I I twittered you guys, but the
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offensive line bothers me a little bit. All I hear
for the last two years is how great they are.
You know, they're getting paid a lot, got an All
Pro on there offensive line. If you have a good
offensive line, you can run the ball. I don't believe
it's the backs because we've seen Olanda scary, We've seen
Mike Anderson excel behind a great offensive line, and they
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were average backs because they didn't do anything anywhere else.
So what are your guys thoughts on the offensive line?
I just I think the run game for two years now,
well for a while now, but for the last two
years it's been abysmal. Guys are getting hit behind the
line a ton and getting met at the line of
scrimmage a ton. So what are your guys thoughts on
the line. I think that that's that's a big problem
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that people don't really focus on.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right, Josh, thank you for the call. Well, today
they give up a lot of pressures. We talked about
that a little bit earlier. Over fifty one pressures. That's
more than Bonix has seen all season. By the metrics,
they're one of the best offensive lines. But I also
understand where you're saying that there are some times it
feels like there's a bit of a letdown. They certainly
weren't very good this year in the run though. How
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much of that is the offensive line, how much of
that is the running backs, how much of that is
the scheme and the fact they keep rotating guys. I mean,
it's sort of a chicken and egg kind of conversation.
I don't really know what to point to, but the
fact is there's certain things functionality of the offense and
the offensive line that don't seem to be working really well.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of talent there, and it's interesting
to me because normally offensive linem want to get out there,
run block, but this offensive line just seems like they're
I don't know when it comes to pass protection, they're
quite good when it comes to running the football. You
know that there's some things that it feels like as
I watch them play, that there should be lanes where
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there aren't, you know. And then some of it's the
running backs missing those lanes a lot of especially with
the cutback lanes. You know, Jamonti's really missed quite a
few cutback lanes this year that have been open as well.
So chicken or egg, I think you're right. I think
it's I think some of both, you know, I think
both things can be simultaneously true.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I will take a quick break. We'll be right back
and again we're on to late to clock to night
on the KA Broncos Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Dixon the holder for Bony the snapper snap placement, kick
on the way and hit, hits the right upright and
is no good. Oh, let's hits the right up right
from fifty on the last play of the first half.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
As they absolute best. By the way, that was not
a doink. That was a full on gong. We don't
get to we don't call that a doink.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
That was a gong.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You hear the microphone picking that thing up. Collectively collectively,
Broncos Country Shannon one more time collectively Broncos Country after that, miss,
I don't think we need audio by Vinegar strokes Man.
Oh my gosh, Yeah, we've officially hit that part of
the post game Pete. Fans of the league will get that.
(25:06):
This is so uh yeah. No, I'm not following up
on that, but good job shaped Scott. Another terrific season.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That right there.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I mean, that is one of the highlights. There's no
way we're on that. I put that that sound on
a Oh my god, I just yeah, it's I'm I'm
trying to do my best right now, not to say
all the jokes. It's a ring tone when you call
appropriate for call Shannon. It's just gonna do that over
and over and over again. Well, now I know what
to do. Now, I'm gonna call him like that as
(25:36):
soon as I know ship is out in about like
in a movie theater somewhere, like I'm calling. Just have
that that sound going, you know, echoing through the movie theater.
I should send him the photo I have of my
face that yeah, because it is that same face. Yeah,
I have to show him from the middle seat flight.
I'll show it. Yes, Yeah, you should see the one
I have to you the picture I have for you?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I've got you. You look like you're you look like
you're cutting a Christian rock album. Okay, well I will
you just show me because I second, we had a
great question come in on the text that somebody's asking
how the NFL is tax exempt but also for profit.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Well, first of all, the NFL is not tax exempt anymore.
They were up until twenty fifteen. When they were they
voluntarily gave up their their tax exempt status. They are
a five oh one C three. It's not the league
is not for profit.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
The teams are.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
The league distributes revenue to the thirty two teams in
the league, which then pay taxes on that income, and
it gave up its tax exempt status simply because of
an optical thing that they do. The NFL distill pays
taxes any which way you slice it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's just the teams that were responsible for the tax burden,
and that's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So that's that's all that is. They're classified as a
file five oh one C six. Uh, they're not for profit.
But the the league in and of itself is not
for profit, but the individual teams in it are. The
Eagles just converted a field goal thirty two yard are
for j Kelliot. They're now leading twenty two to ten
with three twelve remaining in the fourth quarter. Good news
there for Benjamin Albright Parlay. You know, it's so interesting
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because I will say probably get back to the phones.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I will say this the Packers. I have a lot
of respect for Matt Lafleur and what he was able
to do this year. I mean, you lose Jordan Love
in the first game of the season, remember that Brazil game. Yeah,
they lost him in the first game, and they put
Milik Willis in and they might run it better games
with Malik Willis of all people, of all people. And again,
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well everything that right there is coaching excellence. When you
say will they.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Just acquired from the Titans, by the way, it was
like they had a whole offseason with this guy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We can't run our offense with this dude. We have
to completely reshape and you're doing that on the fly,
like you've worked all off season and training camp and everything,
putting in and installing your offense, and everybody's on the
same page. And where the Green Bay Packers we expect
to be in the postseason and you can eleven wins
out of a team where two or three games in
there you had absolutely no business winning those games with
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Malik Willis at quarterback, and you won and you won't
convincing like you want rush for like.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Three hundred yards one of those. And they've had injuries
and weird stuff off the season. They had Romeo Dobbsy
suspended for a game for you know, for kind of
different metal. They had Christa Watson be a hurt at
points throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, it's just it was.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, I think laflour is one of the one of
the better coaches in the league, to be honest, but
I mean he'll be disappointed for the fully expected Philly
to boat race him, and uh, I didn't expect to
be this close.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Actually, well listen, I thought that I thought Philly would
win too. But it was one of those deals where, man,
I I do have sort of a dot my cap
for the Green Bay Pass tippet, you do, I dot it? Yeah,
because once again to be in this position with eleven wins, now,
they're not gonna feel good about this. You know why,
because they have had multiple seasons of being in the
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postseason and coming up short with Matt Lafleur, whether it
was with Aaron Rodgers or the last two years with
Jordan Love, they've had multiple seasons like this, and when
you've had that, I'm sure for Packers fans it's not
good enough. I mean, you're you're gonna be frustrated after
this performance. And Jordan Love one hundred and sixty nine
passing yards and two interceptions. He's gonna get some garbage
time stuff here in the final minutes. But the point
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of it is is like this a bad This is
a bad end result to the season. But once again,
you know, I like where the Broncos are at. Sort
we're coming back full circle here. They just made the postseason.
For this season, the expectation now is okay, well this
this is sort of your opening south. Now you need
to build on this performance. You cannot take a step
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back now. Some people have different versions of what that means.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Some people say, well, you have to get beyond the
wildcard round, right, like not just making the postseason, but
you got to win in the postseason. Well, that's the
reframe on things.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You get success, begets the expectation of success. I talk
about on the show all the time to Larry Coker effect. Right,
Miami fired Larry Coker win eleven games every year? You
and my Miami. He's out there fired Larry Coker, and
I'm like, man, I mean, what do.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You want the guy to do? You can't win a
national championship every year?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And and then they, you know, the program plummeted shortly
thereafter as they kept you know, churning through coaches because
they expected a level of success higher than what was
realist attainable year over year. And that's what goes well,
you know, the reframe for the Broncos, you're on the
front end of that, right, there was no expectation this year,
there's expectation next year. If the Broncos don't make the
playoffs next year, that season will be considered a disappointment.
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Whereas this season, Prior to the season, people would have
laughed at you if you said the Broncos were making
the playoffs. Next season, it's going to be the expectation.
And then the season after that, winning games is going
to be the expectation. And you know, the bar continues
to go up. And that's why NFL coaches typically don't
last very long.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It stops.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Even if you have success, you've got to maintain that
level of success and have a patient owner that's willing
to suffer through bad seasons.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Sometimes on our text line five six six nine zero two,
it doesn't get hurt. Denver would not have made the playoffs.
About how about that for a hot take? Well, i'll
tell you what maybe, But but the thing about it
is that's what's part of It's part of the league, right,
I mean, same thing with if Cincinnati doesn't lose to
New England to start this season, they probably make the
playoffs because they're a good team. They are a very
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good team. But those bounces of the ball, those in
it's part of the game. And certainly for Miami, who
was in the postseason they had a one first round exit.
They're an example, right, The expectations for Miami were to
not only make the postseason, but win beyond that. After
the disappointing exit last year. You remember they lost in
the Wildcar Weekend against Synthical Kansas City, and it was
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a terrible game from Miami. They they looked like they
didn't even want to be there in the postseason because
it was so damn cold, so you fast forward. They
missed the postseason this year, and I'm sure the feelings
around there are pretty bad. But there are probably Miami
fans that to point out, well, hey, if it was healthy,
we probably would have made it, so on and so forth.
That's tough to know.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Maybe, you know, I mean ifs and all that, you
know hypotheticals, but I mean, you know, like I say,
like you said, what the Patriots game. Since Saint wins
at Patriots game, they're probably in.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, because they have tie breakers on everybody at that
point and they were red hot to end the year.
So Ben, when you're ready for blue collar to participate
on the show, please reach out with subject matter so
I can prep just like you.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
You.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh, you guess the gentlemen talking about the tax thing.
Oh okay. So we encourage everybody, but we don't discriminate
on the show.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I make jokes about the poors when I'm talking about
haters or whatever, but we don't describe a Raiders fans.
But we don't really discriminate on the show. Otherwise, Danny, you're.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Up next al Broncos reac. What's up, Danny?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah, I think what the Broncos need are a couple
of things. One and they got the money to do it.
The owners are willing to go out and get the players. Uh,
they need the best full back, the best blocking full
back that you can get that improves your running game
right away. So it's just like having a catcher in baseball.
You need the best catcher and you're in the playoffs
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all the time. If the Rockets have the best catcher
in the game, we'd be seeing them in the playoffs
and we'd be seeing them win more games. So it's
the same thing. You need a good blocking full back,
the best one in the game, and improve your running game.
They also need to get some big receivers that are
willing to throw blocks downfield. A couple of years ago,
I wanted to take Pylan Sutton because I didn't think
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you would throw a block downfield. So that's what they need.
And the receivers to go down there and block downfield
and take somebody out, you know, when they're.
Speaker 10 (33:11):
Playing the game, you take them or whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
But they need some more blocking receivers, all right, Danny.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I mean, I don't think that's priority one for me,
but I'd say just a mentality in general about what
the team, and you want guys that are all focused
on in trying to do the right things more than anything.
In execution certainly was a problem towards the tail end
of the season.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well Acordy Pro Football Focus, the best blocking fullback in
the NFL is Michael Burton, who we already have.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Right, so you have that, And yeah, for your wide receivers,
I think you just want it's the same thing for
like special teams, right, That's that's what I look at that.
It's like doing the small things, like understanding the small
the details that really do matter. And that's one thing
that I do loud Sean Payton for. I know that
you tend to have a different view on that, but
I tend to laud him for the detail work that
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they tell that they generally accomplished. Now, once again, there
was some major execution lapses down the stretch for the
defense with tackling for the offense and obvious moments even
up front front and blocking you know there when you're
not run those screen plays, it's really reliant on people
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holding their blocks or doing a good job and being
in the right position. If it's tackled for a loss,
somebody screwed up, Like, if it's a three yard loss
on a screen, somebody missed their block.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Maybe, I mean they may have if they snuffed it
out and they sent on one extra then you know
that that in that case.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But yeah, in most cases, and I'm saying like not percent,
I'm just saying's a mindset.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
You have to saw one of those. Actually, I still
thought it was a bad call on second and three.
But you know, I mean, especially when you had the
run game starting to work. And that's the thing I
guess I don't understand is why he gets away from
stuff that's working.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know, I gotta be unpredictable of that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
No, you don't, Bro, you can run the same play
sixty straight times if they can't stop it.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Like it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well, but you were killing him for running the ball
in the second half. I was killing him for trying
to re establish the run when he's down two touchdowns. Yeah,
like at that point, it's too late, buddy, Like this
was this that's the first half playbook. Well you're you're
down two touchdowns in the third quarter. I mean, two
scores is not insurmountable.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
But running on first and second down, Okay, you know,
in those kinds of situations, I'm like, what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Come on, maybe a little bit of that and it's
not working, Like, what are we doing? I hate to
give you anything, but yeah, at that point, I was
just like, I mean, you know, I mean to be fair.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
The receivers couldn't catch anything you're thrown anyway, so whatever,
but drop. It was a bad day and I'm trying
to like, I'm trying to just wash my mouth out
of that, like just put that like the season. I'm
trying to look at the season from a macro perspective,
so I stay positive because that that game was was
brutally bad and a lot of.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It was execution.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Normally you sit there bagging on the coaches, and there
are plenty of things to bag on Sempagne about, but
this this particular game mostly came down to execution on
the player side.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
We'll take a quick break. We're about to go final
here for the Eagles and the Packers. Some more or
less meaningless yards maybe the meaningless score here for the Packers,
but they're gonna fall to the Eagles this afternoon, and
then tonight we got the Buccaneers. Commanders, We'll get you
caught up on all of it coming up next on
the Kway Broncos radio network.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Shock unsnapped. The next protection is good. Bold loads it up.
He's got it a receiver there.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Franklin makes the touch in the ends up touchdown Denver
forty three yard strike.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Bowe knicks to his college teammate Troy Franklin, Denver six.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Nothing certainly started good. It's nice to see Troy Franklin
catch one of those deep passes finally. Yeah, I hope
nobody expected that, and that's why it works so well,
I know. Anyway, it's like again, we thought we were
referencing necessary roughness the other day during one of the
breaks that we were like, don't throw the stonehead Like
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that was like that moment where you're just like, oh
this road at Detroit. Franklin oh nods to open the
game of the playoffs. Playoffs and then it worked out
perfectly and then yeah, he made a great job. He
turned it around and he had two catches today, which
is like ten percent. He didn't try to catch it
over his shoulder. That's why it worked. Yeah, he had
like he had like two catches today, which is like
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ten percent of a season total. The Green Bay Packers
threw an interceptional Jordan Love threw an interception of the
end zone, and uh, Eagles got the ball. They are
going to cover important to some say hundred nineteen rushing
yards today. Uh, the Big the Big parlay is despite
that would have helped. But the Big parlay is actually
(37:42):
is actually dead because the Nate Adkins anytime never cashed.
Ah everything else. Up until this point, the first twelve
picks of the seventeen league parlay had hit. We're a
live from the Smashburger Sports Desk smash Burger eat like
no one's watching Smashburger dot com. So we have Buccaneers
commanders tonight. Happy for sake sake one Barkley. You know,
(38:05):
we get Derrick Henry Saquon Barkley, both going to new teams.
Both onto the postseason. Both teams really struggled. I mean
both players. Derrick Henry's tasted some postseason. They've gone all
the way to the AFC Championship Game, obviously, but sak
one has never been in the postseason. But the Giants
the whole time. Oh no, I take that back, he
got he got there against Minnesota. Wasn't wasn't say take
one as part of that team. I think, yeah, because
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Daniel Jones came after him was drafted after.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Barkley was drafted the Bradley Chuppier. Yeah, he was the
number two pick in the in the Baker, so he's
got Baker Josh.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
He had a couple of postseason games. Uh yeah, because
they played Minnesota, right. Yeah. Okay, back to the phones, Ashton,
you're up next to on Broncos react with Ryan Edwards
and Benjamin al Bright High ashten Berry, Ryan and Ben appreciates.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
I'll take my call. This is the only point I
want to take. You know, my opinion going into the
off season, every thing I understand we have, you know,
a couple of concerns regarding running back, I think middle linebacker.
But but really, in my opinion, if we're looking at
a three to four window, your window for Sean Dayton,
I really think we need to just continue to focus
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on bolstering and that and depth to our offensive line
in our defensive front seven. All super impressed by Buffalo's
offensive line today. I understand, I know they're the best
offensive line in the in the in the NFL, but
the way that they were able to just continue to
move the sticks and really just beat down and brutalize
our defense. You know, That's that's what playoff football is
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all about. And if we're going to continue to maintain
a presence in the playoffs, we've got to be top
notch on both sides, on the offensive line and the
defensive line. We've got a young team, you know, you know, honestly,
I think, you know, let's let's roll with them, Let's
let's run it back with them. Okay, let's continue to
build up that offensive line and that defensive line. And
I think that will be it'll make it easier for
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us to evaluate the talent that we actually have, considering
their needs, give them a couple more years. But if
we got a strong offensive defensive line in front seven,
I think it'll just be a lot easier to evaluate
the entire team modell and.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Hold on real quick. So I agree with you, especially
on the defensive line, But offensive line, I don't know,
there's many other places they can add to at this point.
I mean, you still got you got everybody under contract
at this point. You already gave extension to Quinn Minors
and Garrett Bowles, You restructured Mike McGlinchey in the offseason.
I think you got one. Maybe two more years have
been I think two more years have been powers and
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Luke Wattenberg's on a rookie deal, So I guess the
only place you probably could upgrade would be center, but
they feel pretty good about that, so I'm not exactly
sure where you'd upgrade there. On the offensive line, yeah,
I mean, I'm not necessarily saying upgrading.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
Because I do not take away from anything that they
accomplis this year. I'm just talking about just adding depth
because anything can happen next year, you know, injuries, anything
can happen. But really, you know, I just think death
is important on the offensive line. Sure, and then they're
going to continue to grow. They're continue to build you know,
congruity and and and uh, you know, continue to build
(41:08):
on the chemistry. And we definitely have something you know,
forward to look for. But I was just super impressive.
There's a difference when you're watching Buffalo their offensive line today.
I just want the Bunkers to get to that level
because those boys were on a mission the whole game.
The whole game, they moved the sticks to the entire game.
They brutalize our defensive line and you know, as hard
as it was to watch, I couldn't help but to
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look at it and be like, wow, like this is
you know, this is where I wanted to get to you.
I want our offensive line to be able to do
this because who knows what more bo Nexican potentially accomplishes
his career, Like appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
That's That's what I said that there needs to be
is sometimes get boat raced like this in the playoffs.
Sometimes it's it's a good thing because you could look
at that and say, Okay, we're not there clearly, but
that's where we want to be.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
How do we get there? What what what's the work
we got to put in this offseason?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
We get to training camp next year, I need to
be on top of the rookie and say, you know, hey,
no routing out your cuts. We're you know, we're making
every step count because every rep count because we want
to be Buffalo. It's the same thing the Broncos did
with the Jacksonville thing, right, you know they were they
were crushed by that loss to Jacksonville back in the nineties,
and that the mantra of the next year was all
about it. You just said the word Jacksonville became a keyword,
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a rallying cry for that Broncos team.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Hey you know we're not coming up short again. This
is how we do that. And so you need you
need that sometimes in order to you need something to
to rally around.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And then that that could be that moment, Hey Buffalo,
you know that that could be the rallying cry for
the Broncos next year.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Question here, if VJ is let go at d C,
who do you see coming in? Uh?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, I think in house. You've got Jim Leonard already.
There's a couple of jobs that are opening. He might
be up for the Clemson DC.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You would like a VJ. No, they won't let go
of him.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
But if he were for a head coach, you know,
opportunity which I don't think he's going to get. But
that's that's beside the point. He'll interview it when people.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Are are because they were arguing on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
People are people argue in the sidelene Until we saw
Russ and Sean Payle, that's probably a bad example, but
we should see people argue in the sideline all the time.
I mean, that's that's football, you know, and especially when
you got you know, two proud guys that you know.
Sean Payton's sitting there wolfing about you know, the defense. Well,
the offense scored seven points, Sewan, I don't think you're
really in a position to be sitting there, you know,
wolfing at anybody at that point that said, I mean,
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you know, I don't think Van's will get let go.
I really don't Evans wanted to leave then Jim Leonard's
on staff already.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
That probably the guy.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
If not Jim Leonard, if he left to take something else,
then I think they'd bring Dennis Allen in.
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Froze a fake punt and it is caught on the
left side by Marvin Mims.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Riley Dixon. We talked about the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Willing to take some chances, and Dixon took a step up,
drew the defenders till him, and then floated one to Mems,
who made a great catch, a gain of fifteen and
the sticks will move and the Broncos offense is back
on the field.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You realize that that first down was one of thirteen
total first downs for the Broncos today versus the twenty
six of the Bills, and honestly, the Bills probably could
have had more. They had some explosive plays in there.
They kind of did whatever they wanted to do.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
They went into milk the clock mode. Forty percent of
the Broncos offense came on their opening two and a
half minute drive.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Thirteen first talk.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
We were talking about the defense getting bashed in do
the offense didn't show up for this thing either. This
is a total team let down unless you're Riley Dixon
throwing that pass to Marvin Mims.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
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We're on till eight o'clock tonight. He has really Dixon
make a touchdown saving tackle too. He's like the MVP
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of the game. Yes, Riley Dixon made a touchdown saving
on a punt return. It was came back for I
think it was Kalil Care actually for like twenty three yards.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But yeah, the way Shandon's goots the MVP much much
worse of anything he touches.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:51):
So good to have shann but you keep up with
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It looked like Josh Jacobs was in. Initially they ruled
him short as they should have and then he got
into the second try this first thing goal from like
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the one foot yard line. Good game though so far,
sort of the best best game of the playoffs so far,
We're being honest.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And by the way, the the seven one nine here
on the text line said hot take. Albright said that
Joe Lombardi would never be with the Denver Broncos. But
I said the opposite.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
I said the opposite.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
When Shot Pig get hired, I was like, I hope
you like offensive coordinator Joel Lombardi.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I'll defend you on that one. That was the time
I look at that one backwards. Well, most of the time,
I'm I'm looking for reasons to make sure to keep
you on track with things, and especially when you try
to move the goalpost. No, that was the first thing
out of my mouth this one. We were doing Broncos
country tonight at the time before we got hired. Yeah,
and I was like, hey, you want you like Joe
Lombardi's O s and this is what we're gonna get.
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And that's that's exactly what Let's go back to the phones.
Three oh three seven one, three eighty five eighty five,
No skillets on hold, lot to get the skeleton in
a second. Yes, only old bct O Jos. Step But Steven, Steven,
you've been holding longer. What's up, Steven? How are you hey?
Speaker 6 (03:09):
I's it going, guys?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Good? Thanks for holding?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (03:12):
You know, as a as a Connecticut Broncos fan, I
feel personally slated by the NFL having to deal with
the dynasty in New England and then now a new
dynasty in Kansas City.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But uh, right.
Speaker 6 (03:24):
Now, I feel like this season was a big success.
You know, going into it, I felt like, as long
as Boat looked good and we won, you know, five
to seven games, who cares as long as Boat looks
good and we have a path going forward. So going
into it, I didn't really have high expectations went total
wise and we made the playoffs. So really I'm happy.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
I dig that. I like that perspective, Stephen, Thank you
so much for the call. Yeah, and that's It's been
echoed by a lot of Broncos fans here on our
text line as well on Twitter, a lot of a
lot more optimism, positivity, big picture again, Ben, I think
we can we can have both conversations after a brutal loss,
after getting beat down the way you did. You can
be frustrated about that and then simultaneously look at the
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big picture. Ben, You've you've run the gamut of reactions
so far. You opened your time here with a big
picture of view. Would I think literally nobody in Denver
expected you to do that? And then you've simultaneously, over
the last hour, come back to your frustrations with the
play calling and the execution and uh yeah, so you've
(04:30):
given us a little bit of both. You've run the gamut.
Well does that? I mean it's you know, it's what
you do.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Three hundred and sixty degrees of coverage here and that's
just not the temperature that takes.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Oh goodness, back to the phone, Skellets You're out next
here on Broncos React. What's up Skellets Heit, Well, that.
Speaker 7 (04:48):
Last hand he was spot on, except for Kansas City
being a dynasty. Because the dynasty has Baltimore.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Nobody will beat Baltimore.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
Now, as far as this last game goes, this Bronco loss,
it's not that big of a deal because I was
in the sport book about three weeks ago and uh
they had Buffalo favorite to win it all.
Speaker 8 (05:10):
So that's not the end of the world. Supposedly, Buffalo
is supposed to be.
Speaker 7 (05:14):
The best team of football, but I really.
Speaker 9 (05:17):
Think Baltimore is gonna win it.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Any of you gamblers out there, you ended up losing today,
get in your car, go up to Blackhawk, walk on
in there, tell him Benny's grand baby sent you there,
and you're.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
There to make a boomerang Buffalo.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Bet you bet on Buffalo the money's coming back, and boomerang.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Him back on him onto you.
Speaker 7 (05:40):
And if any of you gamblers think you can paint
on baby Jack, just.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Go ahead and try ball it.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
The text I skillet skillet. I uh.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It's be a good matchup though, both More and Buffalo.
It's gonna be a good match up. I mean, what's
we put aside the taste of this one? You know
that would be a good matchup. You got the two guys.
I think everybody thinks it could be the MVP Josh Allen,
Lamore Jackson going going against each other. It's gonna be
a fun game. Whoever can beat Kansas City I don't
even care. I'm not sure either, but Baltimore probably stands
a better chance to beating in Kansas City than Buffalo does.
I think Buffalo. Buffalo can beat Kansas City. Man, I
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don't know. This is this is one of those ones where, well,
I think everybody just hates Kansas City so they want
to see him lose. I don't think that Houston is
gonna be the one to get it done.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So hey, man, if they are, we're Texans fans here
in Denver at this moment, we're fifteen.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
I took a ticket on Kansas City and h in
Philadelphia to make the super Bowl just because I was like,
all right, this is this is probably free money at
this point.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Wod be interesting? I could see that. So they're breaking
that way. Mary, you're up next to a Broncos react
with Ryan Edwards and Benjamin Allbright.
Speaker 9 (06:54):
What's up, Mary, Hi, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Guys on you do a great job I have.
Speaker 8 (07:01):
Is there any.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Comment about the referee going over to the sideline talking
to Josh Allen, patting him.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
On the back, apologizing coming back out.
Speaker 8 (07:12):
What was that was he but apologizing, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
They missed an obvious call.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Patser tan blatantly held there tight end, almost flung them
to the ground right in front of the referee, and
they didn't call it. And that's when Buffalo settled for
a field goal I believe it was, and they did
not call that play, and Josh was hot under the
collar and he said some explatives to the referee and
the referee went over there to Josh and said, hey,
you can't be yelling. You can't be hollering. It's Bill Vinovich.
She said, you can't be hollering like that. Can't be
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doing that. Patted him on the shoulder pads and said,
don't do that. Don't cost it me anymore. We miss some,
we make some, but don't don't cost it me like
that anymore. I gotta flag you, okay.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
And my second question is why do we have an
offensive coordinator if if if he is not having any
input into calling the plays.
Speaker 7 (07:56):
For the game.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Well, and this it's not completely unique to just Denver.
I mean you have an example here with Green Bay.
They have offensive coordinator, but the head coach calls the plays.
That that's that's pretty typical. I think it's just sort
of like your right hand person that sort of helps
with some of the designs, some of the coaching making
sure that when you get certain position groups that those
guys can can be the checks and balances it. It's
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actually more common than you think, especially with head coaches
that call the plays.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, Andy Reid does the same thing. Andy recalls plays
and he's got no c yep. So you know, it's
really it's more of like it's a title that you
give somebody. Yeah, and then you know that person really
is acting more as your organizer, your lieutenant, you know,
if you're calling the plays on that side of the ball.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Okay, well, we'll look forward to next season.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
We will thank Mary, thank you for the call, appreciate it.
We will look forward to next season because it's quite
literally all we can do. But I feel better going
into this offseason than I have in many years. Ben, Yeah,
I think so. I think there's a I think there's
a sense of relief when you think you've got the
quarterback and I think we're at there. We don't know
we've got the quarterback. We pretty much think we do.
(09:05):
Well know next year. You know, it takes it takes
a good twenty thirty starts to really know. I mean,
you know, there were a lot of people that thought
Nick Foles was the guy. After after sixteen starts, we
saw that wasn't you know. RG three started off so
hot then, you know, and then that plummeted through the floor.
I'm not wishing that on ball. I'm just saying, don't
don't rush to don't rush to coronate. Just as people
rush to call people a bus, don't rush to coronate either.
(09:27):
There you know, waiting for you to call it bow
knicks a bus four weeks through the season. Look like
idiots now, you know. In the same way I was like,
you don't need to rush to coronate just yet. I
think we found the guy. I believe that we probably have,
but you want to make sure. Give it the offseason.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Let defenses kind of catch up to him a little bit,
and we'll see what the counter punch is.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I like him.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
I think he's fiery. I think he's gritty. I love
a quarterback it's willing to lower the shoulder a little bit,
you know. I Bose Bose talk a little trash this week. Honestly,
I think it's good. I mean, in this particular case,
you got boat. Racially, it's kind of embarrassing, but I
think it's good to have a quarterback that leads like that.
It has a little passion to him, you know, for
all the whatever you think about Russell Wilson. That's certainly
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a complaint is that you just never felt like, you know,
you never felt like he was invested because he didn't
feel the passion.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
It was a nice makeup call that gave him the
Ty Johnson touchdown.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
That was a cool I mean, unless you say the
ball was moving the ankle, the ankle clearly didn't touch.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I've got a great photo by a Buffalo photog. I
saw it.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
It's like h D four K or whatever. You can
clearly see the ankle didn't touch. If you think the
ball was moving, I'm not gonna argue that one with you.
It looked a little bit like it was moving to me.
But they didn't need that call at the end of
the day.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I mean, no, they didn't. They didn't. But you know,
after he you know, again to Mary's point, it was
a weird It sat weird with a lot of people
to have Bill Vinovich going over talking to Josh Allen
and being like putting his hand on the show. He
looked nice for the TV, but what he was really
telling him was quick cussing at me. Dude, right, But
he's like, hey, you could hear the you can see
the patting on the chest by bad are bad kind
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of thing? Was there?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Bad?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
They missed a blatant call. I mean, like to be fair,
I mean, I'm not trying to dog the Broncos, but
Pat Tartan absolutely should have been flagged on that play.
He just slung him around. Miscalls happened.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
They do.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
See the head referee go over and talk to the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, when the quarterback starts wolfing like that, you've seen
it before. I mean we've seen it with with Mahomes
or you know, the good quarterbacks in the league. They
get that bow will get there eventually. If he's the
guy everybody thinks he is five.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
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Speaker 1 (11:39):
The gun on third den goal takes the snap, looks right,
bounces around, still in the pocket, now points left. He
tries to jump and jumps right into the grasp of
a Bronco defender and down he goes.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
That was DJ Jones.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Great coverage by the Broncos in tight quarters from the
six yard line, Allen had time. He was pointing for
receiver in the end zone, then tried to jump past
Zach Allen and when he did, he jumped right to
the grasp of DJ Jones.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
DJ Jones a free agent after this year, so not
really sure what his future is here with Denver. But
of course they have some decisions to make and some
guys that they're gonna want to bring back. So it'll
be fascinating to watch all that play out. I think
to Ben's point, Benjamin Albright studio with me till eight o'clock,
I think your point is that they're probably gonna be
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looking at either free agency like a Malcolm Roach type player,
maybe a couple more of those, and order the draft
to look to get a little beef here there on
the defensive line.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Yeah, I don't think you're paying DJ, who, you you know,
was previously in a different role in a different system.
You know, before this system, he's not really a guy
that you view as a nose tackle. He sort of
transitioned and played that this year. But that's not really
his you know, his home, and so you know, I
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think I think you're gonna see they'll probably go to
the draft for this, to be honest with you, and
and you can there's some guys that you can get.
I mean, Mason Graham's gonna go before you have a
chance to pick. But there's some guys you can get
a little bit later that that fits what they do.
His teammate, Kenth Grant is somebody that you could probably
get a little bit later. You get the the kid
you'll get see him in the National Championship Game. Tyley
williams Uh is somebody that you could you could probably
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get there. I really like the guy out of Kentucky,
Dean Walker. There are some guys out there that you
can get to fit what they wanted to nose, and
you can get them later in the draft and.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
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Speaker 4 (13:39):
Hi Wan, Hello, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
We're doing good man?
Speaker 8 (13:42):
How are you blessed them?
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Blessed?
Speaker 5 (13:45):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (13:46):
First of all, there's a lot of been a lot
of good comments, you know what I mean, and some truth.
I think it all went bad when that field will
kick it does not know how to kick the ball,
and they hit the damn up right, made that dunk
son and it just went downhill, just like when Peyton Manny.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Did the.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
Got the safety in the Super Bowl. I mean, you
can't can't really say nothing too good about the offense
because they that first drive was really good. The running
game looked decent, wasn't amazing, But you can't stop nobody
if your defense was on the field the majority of
the game.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Yeah, the defense had himself time getting off the field.
Offense didn't really do their part, especially in the second
half with the back to back three Now it's I
mean it was it was a combination. I'll push back
a little bit. Will Let's is a really good kicker.
He was really good this season.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
He was.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
I'm I'm not.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Saying he's bad.
Speaker 10 (14:36):
I'm just saying he was bad at that moment. He
should have made the field goal right in the half,
know what I mean, Just like in the San Diego
game that it went the same way they had they
kicked the ball off and they got that extra penalty,
and then they got the field goal and they went
just down from there. He's not a horrible kicker, Don't
get me wrong. I'm glad you did the job and
could have did a better job today. But just like
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the offense didn't do a better job today, right, he
had to do it on everybody to the offense, will let's,
will Let's.
Speaker 9 (15:03):
The coaching wasn't there.
Speaker 10 (15:04):
Neither we thought it was gonna be. But as well,
I'm so happy that we did great this year, you
know what I mean. My accromy has always been a
breeze Bronco's rule. Everybody else sucks, so you know what
I mean. It's just no matter what we win, lose
a draw, We're Bronco fans, no matter what. We're stunk
for the last years and we have not been in
the playoffs at all, with with Russell Wilson, with like
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von Miller he.
Speaker 8 (15:27):
Named all the quarterbacks, know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
We have not been in the.
Speaker 10 (15:30):
Playoffs for nine years, and that's annoying. At least we
are there. It gives bow Knicks a chance to say, hey,
I'm gonna be able to come back here again and
understand what to do in the pressure next year when
if he didn't even go to the playoffs, Oh well,
next year he gets to go.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
I think he'll go.
Speaker 10 (15:43):
I think he'll go next year, and I think he'll go.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
To the third year.
Speaker 10 (15:46):
He's just gonna be more and more impressive. We're gonna
get a line, some defensive linement, and who knows, hopefully
we could three p like the Chiefs trying to do.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
It'd be awesome, right, absolutely one, thanks for the call man.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
First of all, with with LUTs, I mean he was
a good kicker most of the season, but that when
it came clutch kick time, there was a bit of
a problem there. CINCINNA Bengals game. You got I believe
it was that he missed one there that would have
been in overtime.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Am I wrong on that? No, you're not wrong on that.
He didn't miss that was the other the other kicker.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
No, what was the one he missed out of stretch?
He missed one down to stretch. I'm trying to remember
who it was. Anyway, there was one he and then
he missed.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
The uh thirty one for thirty four. See, I mean
he did well over the course of the season and
then this game.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
But I will say this again, no visiting kicker in
the playoffs has ever hit a fifty plus yard field
goal in Buffalo. Ever, the longest is forty nine, So
you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bag him
too much for that. Plus three points wasn't a difference
in this game. The field goal wasn't a difference in
this game. So we're not sitting here trying to make
him will let's escape goat.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
No, I don't feel like that this one. We're moving
up for Janty or Warren. Inside linebacker, defensive tackle. Safety
will be our other priorities, possibly possibly some of those
in free agency, hoping Chiefs let go of Nick Bolton.
I'd love late on Ransom. I like Ransom the rest
of this though, in fifth round, give Jail a chance
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to compete with Lock.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
You talking about Skinner and jj Lock. First of all,
I don't believe we're moving up. Second of all, I
don't believe we'd be moving up for Jante or Warren.
If Warren fell in their lap, maybe, but they're not
going to move. They're not trading up for a time.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Let me just start.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
You're picking around nineteenth, Yeah, trade, and to be honest
with you, I think both those guys are gone before
they pick.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
I don't believe that they're moving up. I don't believe
they're moving up, especially in this draft. I don't believe
they're moving up for those guys.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Some of the guys I would say to keep your
eye on you know, I've talked about Maria and Hampton
out of North Carolina. Keep you on Keeep, your eye
on him. That that fits a little bit more of
what Sean Payton traditionally drafts. The other part of this was,
was it Nick Bolton? I would not want to pay
Nick Bolton. Nick Bolton is a downhill only linebacker. He's
not a coverage guy. He's a downhill linebacker. He really
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struggles in coverage. And they've already got guys that did
fit that mold, you know. I mean he's a thumper.
Don't get me wrong, but I know no one Nick Bolton.
Speaker 7 (17:59):
For me this one.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
The reality is we never beat a good team outside
of Tampa. We cannot hang with elite teams. I mean
they did hang with the lead teams. Yeah, they hung
with a few. I mean, but they're up on the
Chargers until things kind of fell fell apart. They went
to overtime against the Cincinnati Bengals. They definitely hung with
the but they had a league offense, they had an
elite offense. They were hot at the end of the year,
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and they were one of the lead teams especially and
the defense actually started to show some signs of improvement.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
I mean, there's two ways to look at that. You
could say, you know, we didn't. We only won one
team one game against a team over five hundred, and
that's fair.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
I mean, that is fair.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
The other part of this is they handle business against
the teams are supposed to be, you know, And so
that's the thing like you're when you look at it
from a instead of looking at it from from that perspective,
if you go back to hey, wait a minute, crawl, walk, run,
where are we We're in the walk phase right now.
So we're handling the things we're supposed to be handling,
but we're not quite to where we can win the
stuff that did people underestimate or you know that people
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say we're not supposed to win.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Let's see here rolling on the floor laughing. No, you
don't see refs do that very often at all. Mahomes
bratty are the only ones they get that treatment. If
it wasn't Vinovich. This is talking about when Bill Vinovich
went over to Josh Allen on the sideline call from earlier. Yeah,
Alan would have been flagged immediately if it was cussing
at the ref and that ref went over there for
But it was instance. Vinovich lows the broncos he was
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over there apologizing to Alan because that's.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
What it was.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
It was not a warning. It was both.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I know that from someone who was on the sideline.
That's where I got that from. You do see it
all the time. You don't see it all the time
because they don't show it on television all the time,
but you do see it all the time, specifically more
with coaches than you do with uh with quarterbacks. But
he went over there to talk to Josh Allen and
told him not to gus anybodymore and then said, yeah,
it's my bad.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
We missed.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, we missed on that one. And they showed it
up on the big screen and that's why Vinovich and
his crew had all seen it. There's your tan holding
call that should have been called. It's just an it's
an optics thing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I mean it's not get it.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Fans are going to try to point to that, but
we don't what then, Broncos do. We don't want it
about rest. Let let's stuff go. Look, you look small
and petty when you whine about the refs.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
I hate I hate that. Well you can hate it.
I on my program here, I allow a little bit
of that because I understand in the moment it's it's
frustrating and it certainly feels as though not that it
really made the difference in the outcome of the game.
But there are some moments where you feel like a
bad call about bounce. I mean, you know you're Sean Payton,
for example, and I know you like to hold it
(20:22):
against him that he only went to one so he
got ripped off on Nicoleral of all people, right by
that exact crew. So would you have said in the
post game after that, we can't whine about the refs.
I don't think that's a game deciding play.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
That's wildly different flag the non flag thing that, you know, whatever,
but that game deciding final seconds of the game, no
call on something that was egregious.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Sometimes there are game deciding flags, Ben, And that's my points.
Very narrow, specific instances where it's a season ender. Sure, listen,
I'm not saying this specific moment really changed the outcome
of the game. I can see the gripe from Broncos fans.
I think they also siltaneously can acknowledge it didn't change
the outcome of the game by the fact that Bill
Vinovitch went over there and maybe they did give them
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a liddle of a makeup touchdown to Ty Johnson. Whatever,
they won thirty one to seven. It's like not that.
But I'm saying there are moments in games and during
Broncos React for three to six hours whenever we do this,
if fans want to grouse a little bit about the refs,
I'll allow it.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
When you get to BCT you don't have to, That's fine.
I mean, if that's what you want to spend your
time doing. I just I'm telling you you look. We
look small and petty when people do that as a
fan base.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Go ahead, complain all you want on my show, Josh,
You're up next year on Broncos React. What's up, Josh?
Speaker 4 (21:36):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Not much? How are you guys tonight?
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Good man? What's going on?
Speaker 9 (21:39):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (21:39):
Really quick? A couple things first, when young team gets
the playoffs, this is awesome the result. It's the experience
they get from the game. People need to realize that.
I think Akman and the Cowboys even I think they
took a beating one of their first playoff games when
they first got in. So it's that experience you get
from and people lose sight of that. The second thing,
and I think, I I twittered you guys, but the
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offensive line bothers me a little bit. All I hear
for the last two years is how great they are.
You know, they're getting paid a lot, got an All
Pro on there offensive line. If you have a good
offensive line, you can run the ball. I don't believe
it's the backs because we've seen Olanda scary, We've seen
Mike Anderson excel behind a great offensive line, and they
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were average backs because they didn't do anything anywhere else.
So what are your guys thoughts on the offensive line?
I just I think the run game for two years now,
well for a while now, but for the last two
years it's been abysmal. Guys are getting hit behind the
line a ton and getting met at the line of
scrimmage a ton. So what are your guys thoughts on
the line. I think that that's that's a big problem
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that people don't really focus on.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
All right, Josh, thank you for the call. Well, today
they give up a lot of pressures. We talked about
that a little bit earlier. Over fifty one pressures. That's
more than Bonix has seen all season. By the metrics,
they're one of the best offensive lines. But I also
understand where you're saying that there are some times it
feels like there's a bit of a letdown. They certainly
weren't very good this year in the run though. How
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much of that is the offensive line, how much of
that is the running backs, how much of that is
the scheme and the fact they keep rotating guys. I mean,
it's sort of a chicken and egg kind of conversation.
I don't really know what to point to, but the
fact is there's certain things functionality of the offense and
the offensive line that don't seem to be working really well.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Yeah, there's a lot of talent there, and it's interesting
to me because normally offensive linem want to get out there,
run block, but this offensive line just seems like they're
I don't know when it comes to pass protection, they're
quite good when it comes to running the football. You
know that there's some things that it feels like as
I watch them play, that there should be lanes where
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there aren't, you know. And then some of it's the
running backs missing those lanes a lot of especially with
the cutback lanes. You know, Jamonti's really missed quite a
few cutback lanes this year that have been open as well.
So chicken or egg, I think you're right. I think
it's I think some of both, you know, I think
both things can be simultaneously true.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
I will take a quick break. We'll be right back
and again we're on to late to clock to night
on the KA Broncos Radio Network.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Dixon the holder for Bony the snapper snap placement, kick
on the way and hit, hits the right upright and
is no good. Oh, let's hits the right up right
from fifty on the last play of the first half.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
As they absolute best. By the way, that was not
a doink. That was a full on gong. We don't
get to we don't call that a doink.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
That was a gong.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
You hear the microphone picking that thing up. Collectively collectively,
Broncos Country Shannon one more time collectively Broncos Country after that, miss,
I don't think we need audio by Vinegar strokes Man.
Oh my gosh, Yeah, we've officially hit that part of
the post game Pete. Fans of the league will get that.
(25:06):
This is so uh yeah. No, I'm not following up
on that, but good job shaped Scott. Another terrific season.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
That right there.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I mean, that is one of the highlights. There's no
way we're on that. I put that that sound on
a Oh my god, I just yeah, it's I'm I'm
trying to do my best right now, not to say
all the jokes. It's a ring tone when you call
appropriate for call Shannon. It's just gonna do that over
and over and over again. Well, now I know what
to do. Now, I'm gonna call him like that as
(25:36):
soon as I know ship is out in about like
in a movie theater somewhere, like I'm calling. Just have
that that sound going, you know, echoing through the movie theater.
I should send him the photo I have of my
face that yeah, because it is that same face. Yeah,
I have to show him from the middle seat flight.
I'll show it. Yes, Yeah, you should see the one
I have to you the picture I have for you?
Speaker 4 (25:54):
What do you have for me?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I've got you. You look like you're you look like
you're cutting a Christian rock album. Okay, well I will
you just show me because I second, we had a
great question come in on the text that somebody's asking
how the NFL is tax exempt but also for profit.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Well, first of all, the NFL is not tax exempt anymore.
They were up until twenty fifteen. When they were they
voluntarily gave up their their tax exempt status. They are
a five oh one C three. It's not the league
is not for profit.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
The teams are.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
The league distributes revenue to the thirty two teams in
the league, which then pay taxes on that income, and
it gave up its tax exempt status simply because of
an optical thing that they do. The NFL distill pays
taxes any which way you slice it.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's just the teams that were responsible for the tax burden,
and that's how it goes.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
So that's that's all that is. They're classified as a
file five oh one C six. Uh, they're not for profit.
But the the league in and of itself is not
for profit, but the individual teams in it are. The
Eagles just converted a field goal thirty two yard are
for j Kelliot. They're now leading twenty two to ten
with three twelve remaining in the fourth quarter. Good news
there for Benjamin Albright Parlay. You know, it's so interesting
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because I will say probably get back to the phones.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I will say this the Packers. I have a lot
of respect for Matt Lafleur and what he was able
to do this year. I mean, you lose Jordan Love
in the first game of the season, remember that Brazil game. Yeah,
they lost him in the first game, and they put
Milik Willis in and they might run it better games
with Malik Willis of all people, of all people. And again,
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well everything that right there is coaching excellence. When you
say will they.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Just acquired from the Titans, by the way, it was
like they had a whole offseason with this guy.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
We can't run our offense with this dude. We have
to completely reshape and you're doing that on the fly,
like you've worked all off season and training camp and everything,
putting in and installing your offense, and everybody's on the
same page. And where the Green Bay Packers we expect
to be in the postseason and you can eleven wins
out of a team where two or three games in
there you had absolutely no business winning those games with
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Malik Willis at quarterback, and you won and you won't
convincing like you want rush for like.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Three hundred yards one of those. And they've had injuries
and weird stuff off the season. They had Romeo Dobbsy
suspended for a game for you know, for kind of
different metal. They had Christa Watson be a hurt at
points throughout the year.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
You know, it's just it was.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Yeah, I think laflour is one of the one of
the better coaches in the league, to be honest, but
I mean he'll be disappointed for the fully expected Philly
to boat race him, and uh, I didn't expect to
be this close.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Actually, well listen, I thought that I thought Philly would
win too. But it was one of those deals where, man,
I I do have sort of a dot my cap
for the Green Bay Pass tippet, you do, I dot it? Yeah,
because once again to be in this position with eleven wins, now,
they're not gonna feel good about this. You know why,
because they have had multiple seasons of being in the
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postseason and coming up short with Matt Lafleur, whether it
was with Aaron Rodgers or the last two years with
Jordan Love, they've had multiple seasons like this, and when
you've had that, I'm sure for Packers fans it's not
good enough. I mean, you're you're gonna be frustrated after
this performance. And Jordan Love one hundred and sixty nine
passing yards and two interceptions. He's gonna get some garbage
time stuff here in the final minutes. But the point
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of it is is like this a bad This is
a bad end result to the season. But once again,
you know, I like where the Broncos are at. Sort
we're coming back full circle here. They just made the postseason.
For this season, the expectation now is okay, well this
this is sort of your opening south. Now you need
to build on this performance. You cannot take a step
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back now. Some people have different versions of what that means.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Some people say, well, you have to get beyond the
wildcard round, right, like not just making the postseason, but
you got to win in the postseason. Well, that's the
reframe on things.
Speaker 7 (29:36):
Now.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
You get success, begets the expectation of success. I talk
about on the show all the time to Larry Coker effect. Right,
Miami fired Larry Coker win eleven games every year? You
and my Miami. He's out there fired Larry Coker, and
I'm like, man, I mean, what do.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
You want the guy to do? You can't win a
national championship every year?
Speaker 3 (29:52):
And and then they, you know, the program plummeted shortly
thereafter as they kept you know, churning through coaches because
they expected a level of success higher than what was
realist attainable year over year. And that's what goes well,
you know, the reframe for the Broncos, you're on the
front end of that, right, there was no expectation this year,
there's expectation next year. If the Broncos don't make the
playoffs next year, that season will be considered a disappointment.
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Whereas this season, Prior to the season, people would have
laughed at you if you said the Broncos were making
the playoffs. Next season, it's going to be the expectation.
And then the season after that, winning games is going
to be the expectation. And you know, the bar continues
to go up. And that's why NFL coaches typically don't
last very long.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It stops.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Even if you have success, you've got to maintain that
level of success and have a patient owner that's willing
to suffer through bad seasons.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Sometimes on our text line five six six nine zero two,
it doesn't get hurt. Denver would not have made the playoffs.
About how about that for a hot take? Well, i'll
tell you what maybe, But but the thing about it
is that's what's part of It's part of the league, right,
I mean, same thing with if Cincinnati doesn't lose to
New England to start this season, they probably make the
playoffs because they're a good team. They are a very
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good team. But those bounces of the ball, those in
it's part of the game. And certainly for Miami, who
was in the postseason they had a one first round exit.
They're an example, right, The expectations for Miami were to
not only make the postseason, but win beyond that. After
the disappointing exit last year. You remember they lost in
the Wildcar Weekend against Synthical Kansas City, and it was
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a terrible game from Miami. They they looked like they
didn't even want to be there in the postseason because
it was so damn cold, so you fast forward. They
missed the postseason this year, and I'm sure the feelings
around there are pretty bad. But there are probably Miami
fans that to point out, well, hey, if it was healthy,
we probably would have made it, so on and so forth.
That's tough to know.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
Maybe, you know, I mean ifs and all that, you
know hypotheticals, but I mean, you know, like I say,
like you said, what the Patriots game. Since Saint wins
at Patriots game, they're probably in.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah, because they have tie breakers on everybody at that
point and they were red hot to end the year.
So Ben, when you're ready for blue collar to participate
on the show, please reach out with subject matter so
I can prep just like you.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
You.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh, you guess the gentlemen talking about the tax thing.
Oh okay. So we encourage everybody, but we don't discriminate
on the show.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I make jokes about the poors when I'm talking about
haters or whatever, but we don't describe a Raiders fans.
But we don't really discriminate on the show. Otherwise, Danny, you're.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Up next al Broncos reac. What's up, Danny?
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Yeah, I think what the Broncos need are a couple
of things. One and they got the money to do it.
The owners are willing to go out and get the players. Uh,
they need the best full back, the best blocking full
back that you can get that improves your running game
right away. So it's just like having a catcher in baseball.
You need the best catcher and you're in the playoffs
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all the time. If the Rockets have the best catcher
in the game, we'd be seeing them in the playoffs
and we'd be seeing them win more games. So it's
the same thing. You need a good blocking full back,
the best one in the game, and improve your running game.
They also need to get some big receivers that are
willing to throw blocks downfield. A couple of years ago,
I wanted to take Pylan Sutton because I didn't think
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you would throw a block downfield. So that's what they need.
And the receivers to go down there and block downfield
and take somebody out, you know, when they're.
Speaker 10 (33:11):
Playing the game, you take them or whatever.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
But they need some more blocking receivers, all right, Danny.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I mean, I don't think that's priority one for me,
but I'd say just a mentality in general about what
the team, and you want guys that are all focused
on in trying to do the right things more than anything.
In execution certainly was a problem towards the tail end
of the season.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Well Acordy Pro Football Focus, the best blocking fullback in
the NFL is Michael Burton, who we already have.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Right, so you have that, And yeah, for your wide receivers,
I think you just want it's the same thing for
like special teams, right, That's that's what I look at that.
It's like doing the small things, like understanding the small
the details that really do matter. And that's one thing
that I do loud Sean Payton for. I know that
you tend to have a different view on that, but
I tend to laud him for the detail work that
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they tell that they generally accomplished. Now, once again, there
was some major execution lapses down the stretch for the
defense with tackling for the offense and obvious moments even
up front front and blocking you know there when you're
not run those screen plays, it's really reliant on people
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holding their blocks or doing a good job and being
in the right position. If it's tackled for a loss,
somebody screwed up, Like, if it's a three yard loss
on a screen, somebody missed their block.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Maybe, I mean they may have if they snuffed it
out and they sent on one extra then you know
that that in that case.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
But yeah, in most cases, and I'm saying like not percent,
I'm just saying's a mindset.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
You have to saw one of those. Actually, I still
thought it was a bad call on second and three.
But you know, I mean, especially when you had the
run game starting to work. And that's the thing I
guess I don't understand is why he gets away from
stuff that's working.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
You know, I gotta be unpredictable of that.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
No, you don't, Bro, you can run the same play
sixty straight times if they can't stop it.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Like it.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Well, but you were killing him for running the ball
in the second half. I was killing him for trying
to re establish the run when he's down two touchdowns. Yeah,
like at that point, it's too late, buddy, Like this
was this that's the first half playbook. Well you're you're
down two touchdowns in the third quarter. I mean, two
scores is not insurmountable.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
But running on first and second down, Okay, you know,
in those kinds of situations, I'm like, what are we
doing here?
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Come on, maybe a little bit of that and it's
not working, Like, what are we doing? I hate to
give you anything, but yeah, at that point, I was
just like, I mean, you know, I mean to be fair.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
The receivers couldn't catch anything you're thrown anyway, so whatever,
but drop. It was a bad day and I'm trying
to like, I'm trying to just wash my mouth out
of that, like just put that like the season. I'm
trying to look at the season from a macro perspective,
so I stay positive because that that game was was
brutally bad and a lot of.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
It was execution.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Normally you sit there bagging on the coaches, and there
are plenty of things to bag on Sempagne about, but
this this particular game mostly came down to execution on
the player side.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
We'll take a quick break. We're about to go final
here for the Eagles and the Packers. Some more or
less meaningless yards maybe the meaningless score here for the Packers,
but they're gonna fall to the Eagles this afternoon, and
then tonight we got the Buccaneers. Commanders, We'll get you
caught up on all of it coming up next on
the Kway Broncos radio network.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Shock unsnapped. The next protection is good. Bold loads it up.
He's got it a receiver there.
Speaker 9 (36:24):
Franklin makes the touch in the ends up touchdown Denver
forty three yard strike.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
Bowe knicks to his college teammate Troy Franklin, Denver six.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
Nothing certainly started good. It's nice to see Troy Franklin
catch one of those deep passes finally. Yeah, I hope
nobody expected that, and that's why it works so well,
I know. Anyway, it's like again, we thought we were
referencing necessary roughness the other day during one of the
breaks that we were like, don't throw the stonehead Like
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that was like that moment where you're just like, oh
this road at Detroit. Franklin oh nods to open the
game of the playoffs. Playoffs and then it worked out
perfectly and then yeah, he made a great job. He
turned it around and he had two catches today, which
is like ten percent. He didn't try to catch it
over his shoulder. That's why it worked. Yeah, he had
like he had like two catches today, which is like
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ten percent of a season total. The Green Bay Packers
threw an interceptional Jordan Love threw an interception of the
end zone, and uh, Eagles got the ball. They are
going to cover important to some say hundred nineteen rushing
yards today. Uh, the Big the Big parlay is despite
that would have helped. But the Big parlay is actually
(37:42):
is actually dead because the Nate Adkins anytime never cashed.
Ah everything else. Up until this point, the first twelve
picks of the seventeen league parlay had hit. We're a
live from the Smashburger Sports Desk smash Burger eat like
no one's watching Smashburger dot com. So we have Buccaneers
commanders tonight. Happy for sake sake one Barkley. You know,
(38:05):
we get Derrick Henry Saquon Barkley, both going to new teams.
Both onto the postseason. Both teams really struggled. I mean
both players. Derrick Henry's tasted some postseason. They've gone all
the way to the AFC Championship Game, obviously, but sak
one has never been in the postseason. But the Giants
the whole time. Oh no, I take that back, he
got he got there against Minnesota. Wasn't wasn't say take
one as part of that team. I think, yeah, because
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Daniel Jones came after him was drafted after.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Barkley was drafted the Bradley Chuppier. Yeah, he was the
number two pick in the in the Baker, so he's
got Baker Josh.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
He had a couple of postseason games. Uh yeah, because
they played Minnesota, right. Yeah. Okay, back to the phones, Ashton,
you're up next to on Broncos react with Ryan Edwards
and Benjamin al Bright High ashten Berry, Ryan and Ben appreciates.
Speaker 9 (38:52):
I'll take my call. This is the only point I
want to take. You know, my opinion going into the
off season, every thing I understand we have, you know,
a couple of concerns regarding running back, I think middle linebacker.
But but really, in my opinion, if we're looking at
a three to four window, your window for Sean Dayton,
I really think we need to just continue to focus
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on bolstering and that and depth to our offensive line
in our defensive front seven. All super impressed by Buffalo's
offensive line today. I understand, I know they're the best
offensive line in the in the in the NFL, but
the way that they were able to just continue to
move the sticks and really just beat down and brutalize
our defense. You know, That's that's what playoff football is
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all about. And if we're going to continue to maintain
a presence in the playoffs, we've got to be top
notch on both sides, on the offensive line and the
defensive line. We've got a young team, you know, you know, honestly,
I think, you know, let's let's roll with them, Let's
let's run it back with them. Okay, let's continue to
build up that offensive line and that defensive line. And
I think that will be it'll make it easier for
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us to evaluate the talent that we actually have, considering
their needs, give them a couple more years. But if
we got a strong offensive defensive line in front seven,
I think it'll just be a lot easier to evaluate
the entire team modell and.
Speaker 2 (40:11):
Hold on real quick. So I agree with you, especially
on the defensive line, But offensive line, I don't know,
there's many other places they can add to at this point.
I mean, you still got you got everybody under contract
at this point. You already gave extension to Quinn Minors
and Garrett Bowles, You restructured Mike McGlinchey in the offseason.
I think you got one. Maybe two more years have
been I think two more years have been powers and
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Luke Wattenberg's on a rookie deal, So I guess the
only place you probably could upgrade would be center, but
they feel pretty good about that, so I'm not exactly
sure where you'd upgrade there. On the offensive line, yeah,
I mean, I'm not necessarily saying upgrading.
Speaker 9 (40:47):
Because I do not take away from anything that they
accomplis this year. I'm just talking about just adding depth
because anything can happen next year, you know, injuries, anything
can happen. But really, you know, I just think death
is important on the offensive line. Sure, and then they're
going to continue to grow. They're continue to build you know,
congruity and and and uh, you know, continue to build
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on the chemistry. And we definitely have something you know,
forward to look for. But I was just super impressive.
There's a difference when you're watching Buffalo their offensive line today.
I just want the Bunkers to get to that level
because those boys were on a mission the whole game.
The whole game, they moved the sticks to the entire game.
They brutalize our defensive line and you know, as hard
as it was to watch, I couldn't help but to
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look at it and be like, wow, like this is
you know, this is where I wanted to get to you.
I want our offensive line to be able to do
this because who knows what more bo Nexican potentially accomplishes
his career, Like appreciate that.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
That's That's what I said that there needs to be
is sometimes get boat raced like this in the playoffs.
Sometimes it's it's a good thing because you could look
at that and say, Okay, we're not there clearly, but
that's where we want to be.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
How do we get there? What what what's the work
we got to put in this offseason?
Speaker 3 (41:57):
We get to training camp next year, I need to
be on top of the rookie and say, you know, hey,
no routing out your cuts. We're you know, we're making
every step count because every rep count because we want
to be Buffalo. It's the same thing the Broncos did
with the Jacksonville thing, right, you know they were they
were crushed by that loss to Jacksonville back in the nineties,
and that the mantra of the next year was all
about it. You just said the word Jacksonville became a keyword,
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a rallying cry for that Broncos team.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Hey you know we're not coming up short again. This
is how we do that. And so you need you
need that sometimes in order to you need something to
to rally around.
Speaker 3 (42:29):
And then that that could be that moment, Hey Buffalo,
you know that that could be the rallying cry for
the Broncos next year.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Question here, if VJ is let go at d C,
who do you see coming in? Uh?
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Well, I think in house. You've got Jim Leonard already.
There's a couple of jobs that are opening. He might
be up for the Clemson DC.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
You would like a VJ. No, they won't let go
of him.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
But if he were for a head coach, you know,
opportunity which I don't think he's going to get. But
that's that's beside the point. He'll interview it when people.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Are are because they were arguing on the sideline.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
People are people argue in the sidelene Until we saw
Russ and Sean Payle, that's probably a bad example, but
we should see people argue in the sideline all the time.
I mean, that's that's football, you know, and especially when
you got you know, two proud guys that you know.
Sean Payton's sitting there wolfing about you know, the defense. Well,
the offense scored seven points, Sewan, I don't think you're
really in a position to be sitting there, you know,
wolfing at anybody at that point that said, I mean,
(43:22):
you know, I don't think Van's will get let go.
I really don't Evans wanted to leave then Jim Leonard's
on staff already.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
That probably the guy.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
If not Jim Leonard, if he left to take something else,
then I think they'd bring Dennis Allen in.
Speaker 2 (43:33):
We'll get to more of your questions in texts coming
up next again five six six nine zero or three
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