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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Grant Smith here with you five six six nine zeros.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The text line, I want to shout out to James
Palmer for joining us in the last segment of James
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
Get the r L down here at marbles in.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
My mouth at kay Colora dot com and get the
podcast there. Grant's just laughing at me, just outright laughing
at me right now. I see you over there. Nick
and I do a segment on Broncos Country tonight where
we do our big board where we rank for the
NFL Draft, where we have the upcoming prospects at each position. So,
without further ado, we're going to bring that here, the
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big board.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
No, it's the time, boy, time.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We ansigure it out further ado and then we do
an intro. So he's actually further Ado. Just making my
statement quite ironic.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Nick, I believe you have eight a top eight tight ends.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I had a top ten, So I'm gonna not my
first two out right away, and then we'll get to
here number eight. My number ten is Luke. No relation
to Nick Lache out of Iowa. He is a competent
all around tight end who I think could develop into
something high upside guy. Probably not going to be a
guy that's the trapped very early. You're looking at the
late day three guy, but he's a guy that you
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could potentially develop into something.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And then Clemson's.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Jake briding Stool more of a specialized pass game weapon,
third down, red zone kind of guy. Sixty six, a
little slower obviously at four some five, but a guy
I think could could project to be something in the
NFL SAW. Now we jump into it, we each have
our top eight from here. You at a number eight have.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I have Mitchew Evans Mitchew's tight end out of Notre
Dame sixty six six five, I mean two hundred sixty
pounds sixty five. And for me, if you want to
run a dual tight end set and you alay got
run a lot of power, which I thing the Broncos
really want to do as far as get their running
game going, that would be a nice direction to go in.
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But once again, this is a guy that is not
a Day one guy obviously day two, and you can
get him later than that. But I love his size,
his drive, his leg drive, and it would definitely help
the Broncos out from a run game standpoint.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
All right, my number eight is a local kid right here,
Cherry Creek Gunner help who played for Dave Logan former
wide receiver who switched two tight ends, but an academic
guy as well. He's a good pass catcher, natural hands
pass catcher. He's got great body control, but kind of
a lack of play strength at the white tight end.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Things.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Stronger defensive ends are gonna be able to overwhelm him,
and that's something to worry about. He'll be able to
contribute to the passing game day one. He's got to
develop him as a blocker. You know, he did not
have the greatest combine, but he had the foot issue
obviously while there. He's certainly are a better athlete than
he tested at at that point obviously, and so that'll
be one of those things.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But I've got Gunner Helm at number eight.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
At number seven, Terrence Ferguson, Terren's Ferguson, no relations at
least to this point.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I believe her brother. So you look identical, really a red.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Hand, Yeah, six y five fifty five pounds I like
his ability to run a lot of the short intermediate routes,
but I always think about, okay, well, familiarity. Why everything
here in Denver's based on trying to set boat Nicks
up to be successful, So why not go in in
that direction if you're looking for a guy who can actually,
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you know, stretch the feel.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He's not as fast.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
As you would like, but most of these tight ends
are not a reliable target with great hands.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He's also my number seven, Terrence Ferguson, So and again,
familiar relations you gotta get on the show. And for
anybody who's ever seen a picture of Terrence Ferguson, that
that should should look quite funny. You know, reliable hands, catcher,
you know, good body control, willing blocker, lacks top ends
speed and I say willing blocker, but maybe not the
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strongest blocker and occasionally all round off the routes.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
But I'm with you. A familiarity with Bonnicks there at
Oregon could.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Lead that to be a potentially a Denver Broncos target.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Number six.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well, number six for me is tight end out of
bowling green. He's a little on a I guess small
side of how are fanning this is.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The most agreement you and I have had because this
is also my number six.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, so well, once again, obviously I have him this
far back because the size. I mean, that's kind of
a size of maybe a linebacker or whatever. But obviously
if you using a guy from a tight end standpoint,
you know you want a little bit more of a
robust type of body. But yeah, because of his size,
this is why I have him as I guess as
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low as I have him.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But also that speed. He was like a four to
seven to one.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But if you can because if you're going to be
two hundred and thirty pounds, I need you to run
a little faster than that.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, that's my problem with him too. I mean, he
is two hundred and thirty pounds. That's not going to
be effective as a blocker at the NFL level. Limited
play strength, still try to get counter moves, you know,
you look at the stats in their eye popping, but again,
limited competition in the MAC. All due respect to Grant
over there who constantly tells us about the action going
on his release package, and he's a little bit right.
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I don't even think he's a tight end in the NFL.
I think he's a big slot receiver at two hundred
and thirty pounds. You have to put some weight on
him at some point to make him a tight end. Yeah,
I mean, that's probably really where he's at. He did
have some positional versatility in line forty three point six
percent of snaps, but twenty eight point six out of
the slot and twenty seven point eight out wide. So
that suggests that he's probably more of an off the line,
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y h back, you know, versatile chess piece than he
is a tight end at the NFL weapon at the
NFL level, although we heard Sean Payton talk about the
joker role, this is a guy who can kind of
play multiple positions with that kind of thing. Maybe that's
something to look at. Who did you have at number five?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
At number five, Mason Taylor out of LSU, you seem
very shocked by that.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I have him a little higher. Oh you do.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, that's going to be really interesting obviously, you know
you go to his so called NFL pedigree. His dad,
Jason Taylor, guy who I played against, was a great
outside edge rusher.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
His son.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Now I'm playing tight end for LSU, and one thing
I think about this position once again, you want a
guy who if you can get like a due versatility
out of him and what I mean by inline blocker,
but also a guy that you can kind of flex out.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
You're getting that in Mason Taylor, but once again we're
ranking tight ends.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That's exactly where he falls.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
For me, I would love to see was getting a
little more running and explosion from Mason Taylor.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But I happy at number five.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
My number five also has NFL blood lines, but a
different guy. I've got to run a gas in the
second out of Syracuse. His father obviously was a wide receiver.
He's more of a flex tight end at the I
guess it's more of a flex tight end the NFL
blocking techniques at a little underdeveloped and doesn't have you know,
a lot of that strength and a little change the
direction limitations. More of a build up runner, but natural hands, catcher, explosives,
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straight line speed. Loved him in contested catch situations. You
go back and watch the Syracuse tape. I mean, he
just pops. He's got medium and deep receiving skills like
a receiver.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I think he's a guy that you're gonna have to
teach how to block, but he's at least got a
willingness to try to get in there and mix it up.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Okay, so at number four I have higher on my
board than you have.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Is a Colorado native gunner him?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
No, I like gunner as far as pass catching because
when we think about where the NFL is right now,
you know a lot of teams utilize a lot of
eleven personnel. If you get tight end and they can
fletch you out and you can create pass game, matchtips,
nightmares for the divisive coordinator, that's exactly the direction that
you want to go. And you know, great hands, he
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can run the routes down in between the scenes. But
he also he he's got enough skill what you get,
flex him out, get him off the ball, and you
run that corner route.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
For you well.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And Dave Logan to tell you they've coached him in
high school. He's a guy that started out receiver and
then ultimately made the transition. So he's got some of
those receiving skills out in eight receiving stuff because he
started out at that position. My number four, it's a
guy I think you were pretty high on. So I'm
thinking we probably haven't gotten to him yet. Is Elijah
Royal out out of the you out of Miami. I
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got him a lot hot higher than.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Former four star recruit out of Texas sixty four two
fifty one. Prototypical size, savvy route guy, natural hands catcher.
You know, he knows the one of the things that
you when you watched him because I was watching the
cam word stuff, then you watching him, this dude knows
how to find the saft spot and zone and sit
down and for a tight end like that, because that's
what you're going to be. You're going to be used
at that in a lot of these offenses in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
In addition to the other things.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
If you've got that knack for finding the scenes in
the you know, in the sauce spot in the zones
and sitting down like that, that that's gonna go over
big time. The knocks on him the medical history dude,
like that's that's one of the durability concerns.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The left knee. That's one of those things that's that's
gonna bother you.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You do see him round out the routes a little bit,
uh and then watching him blocked hand placement is weird.
Somebody's got to teach him how to block. He's willing
to do it, but somebody's got to teach him how
to do it because he's got weird hand placement. He's
gonna get worked by some some NFL defensive ends if
he's doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But I like him.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I just didn't have him quite as high as as
I think you do. And I think I think you
and I probably I think my third guy, this guy
will surprise you a little bit as we moved for
you and I probably have the same one too.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
The fright third guy is Michigan tight end Coaston Loveland.
You know, oh, yes, you really have a royal high
then well, I mean I mean if Coaston is city
at three, yeah, I mean obviously the number is a
favor of Royo, but uh yeah, I mean you look
at a coast in one once again, one of those
big type lilide receivers kind of a create the matchups
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nightmares for you know, undersized linebackers. I mean, he doesn't
run as well as you would like a tight end
to run, but we're still talking about tight ends and ideas.
Do you work well in short space as far as
third and one, but more on politely inside the red
zone because of that height. You know, he's got a
great catch radius, is being able to extend his hands.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So that's the guy I had. But number three, my
number three a guy you have a little bit lower.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Mason Taylor LSU obviously the son of Jason Taylor, the
Hall of Fame or nephew of linebacker Zach Thomas. You know,
he started carving at his legacy back at Saint Thomas
Aquinas High School, who, by the way, his coach was Brianniedermeyer.
Brian Piedermeier was just hired this offseason to the Denver
Broncos as an offensive quality control guy. I see he's
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trying to make the connection. Something to keep your eye
on there. I'm just putting it out there. If you
don't like it, send it back. But I'm just making
a connection so all the listeners get little inside information.
Natural hands catcher, great spatial awareness, fluid athlete, reliable target
and clutch situations.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And you saw in game winning conversions they went to him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Look at the ali pam again, look at the critical
fourth down catch and gets old miss.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know, he was the guy that they went to
when they needed it.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And and if you're a tight end at LSU wide receiver,
you if you're paying attention, if you're a tight end
there and they're going to you in critical situations, that
says something about what they feel about his reality in
those situations. Definitely some technical refinement as a run blocker,
struggle to anchor against power rushers, limited experience as an
inline guy.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I think he can get there. So you know,
I like him.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I like him a lot, and I do think he
could possibly be a Denver broadcast target.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Maybe maybe in the second round.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Well, my number two is Elijah Royo out of the
U and I mean deceptive speed.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And once again when you watched wait wait wait wait wait,
deceptive speed, Yes, white deceptively fast.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Cliche here, Well, I'd say less bill because well, you
think about his ability to accelerate right, Sometimes when the
guys come off the line, some guys are really quick.
We get that quick bird. Some guys it may take
them a moment to kind of get into that full acceleration.
That's how I look at Arroyo. There was a play
that I put it on social media while back well,
they were playing Joorgia tech and he was in the slot,
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and they used with Streppo well in combination with him,
And I mean as soon as he got the ball
in his hand, boll, he just separated himself. So I
like that that ability from him being able to run
every route on.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
A road tree. You mentioned it before.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
As far as block him, that's not really his forte.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
He definitely has to get coach stuff on that. But
all depends.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If you're looking for a guy like Elijah Royo, then
you're looking for a guy who can separate down the field,
and you're looking at him more as a pass catching
tight end than the inline blocker.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
One thing I will say about Arroyo that none of
these other guys I might say none of these other
guys had, but it jumps out is his ability to
catch over the shoulder like a receiver.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You know, every number king, Yeah, he does not have
like some of these guys.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
They gotta flash their numbers back towards the quarterback. Arroyo
was a guy like Gadsden who was great catching ovid shoulder.
My number two was Coaston Loveland, who you've already been over.
There'd be easy to accept. Athlete plays like an oversize receiver.
You know, great nasty route run, a great hand catcher.
He's great down the seams. And I like the fact
that he runs angry with the ball in his hands
after the catch. That's a that's a big part of that,
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you know, get that dog in him. Uh, and certainly
could find the sawt spot in some weaknesses, you know,
blocking technique, play strength, that's some sing you're gonna have
to do.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Another guy who rounds off the routes a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's something guys coming out of college do though they
tend to round those routes out a little bit less precise.
You tend to fix pick that up as a as
a pro player, raw as a pass protector and limited
experience staying into block that was that wasn't something that
he really did there, So something he's gonna have to
develop as a you know if as.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He gets into a three down role in the pro game.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And I think it should come as a shock to
nobody that we both have the same guy at number
one here.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yes, uh, Tyler Warren from Penn State, you know, uh,
the Knitton Lions. And I've loved him watching him over
the past couple of years because he is the tight
end personify in today's NFL because you can line him
up anywhere. You can line them up in the backfield.
If you love a guy like Taysom Hill and how
dynamic he is, you know Warren gives you that same
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level of skill set. Now, Warren can once he gets
his hands on you, I mean, he can drive you
off the ball. But he's not one of those guys
that you say, you know what, every time you turn
on the tape he's destroying guys. He's shown as though
he has the ability to do that once he gets
his hands on you. But looking at just the versatility
that he has from a tight end, I mean, I
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think about George Kittle, right, if you were to add
put George Kittle and Travis Kelce together, you member those
who get guys together, you get Warren in his ability
all the head.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
He's developing consistency. Is an inline blocker.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But you know the effort is there, got a little
it got redirected a little too easy with power rushers.
The finesse guys struggle with him. But the power guys
that kind of got through. He's gonna have to get
that functional strength the NFL level. NFL wait, real.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Will take care of that. Flex him out. Yeah, there
especially do that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The big thing about him high school quarterback, and he
came to Penn State as a dual threat quarterback before
making the switch to tight end.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And that shows through.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I mean you can see the football like you you
can see him sort of diagnosing coverages before the snap
and the and the mind working on that kind of stuff.
He was dangerous in the seam, a red zone, nightmare
catches ball. Well, I'm not saying he's brock powers, but
he's certainly a guy that that I think is absolutely
going to have an impact at the NFL level. So
I don't think the Broncos is gonna have an opportunity
draft him. I think he's gonna be long gone by
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the time Denver drafts. But he's certainly somebody who if
he were to follow the twenty you would have to
be very interesting. Look, I would see the forty time
on Sean Payton as he sprints to the podium to
get that to get the car.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Is there anything in his game that he could be
a potential buster or is he just such a rock
solid prospect that he's gonna you think he's going to
be a quality player.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I think I think the floor here is very high.
I think short of an NFL career littered with injuries,
I think you've got an incredibly productive player here.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I mean out out of going to a team with
the offensive coordinator who is just so dumbfounded that he
doesn't know how to use Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean, this kid is a walking first down.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, and look at what we've seen the game turn
into and involve is looking at the combination and the
chemistry that we've seen with Travis Kelce and a guy
like Patrick Mahomes. If the quarterback wherever he goes, can
continue to work and build that relationship, you could see
something similar to that. Think about you know Sam Laporter
with with the Detroit Lions. Right, Look how well he
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flourished as a as a as a tight end in
this league. So Warren has a lot of upside, but
all depends on where he goes and if the offensive
coordinator is not stubborn and can think outside of themselves,
this kid should.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Have a great career.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, I mean this is I don't see. This is
one of those guys where it's I mean, nothing's a
sure thing, but this is a close to a short thing.
As you get West Coast and spread offense, is both
are gonna be salivating over over everything that he does.
Is he's operated from multiple alignments in college. You've seen it.
It's this is I mean, even run heavy team shouldn't
overlook this guy.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You know, well, think about a more versatile Mark Andrews. Yeah,
kind of me from that standpoint, right, Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And that's pretty high praise right there, right, And that's
that's really read to go. Maybe the route, maybe they'll
excuse me.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
The blocking still needs some work, but that's he's a
better athlete and a more refined Mark Andrews.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I mean, I know we keep going.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Back to blocking, but most teams right now, I mean,
you can actually create blocking without putting a guy in
the action. And the way you do it is flex
him out, get him outside the box. So guess what,
the guy who has to cover him, they got to
step out. So now you get a more favorable box
to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, he blocked the guy. We're not even blocking him.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, that's what That's one of those things if you
need if you're trying to do that, you can't just
flex him out and then all of a sudden, you're
going to pull that linebacker out of this, probably a
safety because you're not really putting a linebacker on this
guy to try to cut, but.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You're pulling a safety out of the box. You pulled
him out wide. And just like you said, with Warren being.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So athletic, being as though he played the quarterback position,
now you can throw a tight end slip screens see
him just like you throw to a wid receiver.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right, That's all I'm saying. And that's the thing. Depending
on what you have to set up, you flex him out.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You're looking to see if he's pulling a linebacker, safety,
your corner out of the box, whatever you If you
pull it a corner, well then you're running his direction
because you know he's gonna overwhelm them. If you've got
a linebacker out there, you're probably throwing to him because
the linebacker's not gonna be able to keep up with
the athleticism. So he is that versatile mismatch that I
think allows an offensive coordinator to really open up the
book a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
There was one question I wanted to ask you guys
from the text sign from the nine zero nine.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
While we're talking about the draft.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Ben and Nick as well, call your shot on which
running back or two the Broncos will pick if they
take two in the draft.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, I mean, if he's there, Omrion Hampton, Treviat Henderson
will get some consideration as well. If Hampton is gone,
and then I'll throw a name out there for a
little bit later. It would be Lequin Allen out of Syracuse.
If you've any back in here. Sort of reminds you
a diet Alba Kamara. La Quinn Allen's great on those
choice routes and all that kind of stuff. Not the
best runner in the world, but a pure running back.
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But in terms of being a guy who can catch
the ball out of the backfield and pass protect or
la Quinn Allen or something else.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
What round does he projected him, Oh, probably a fel
for six, So it's get some value.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, you can get him one day three. So for me, it.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Would be like Cueijeon Jenkins from Ohio State because Jamiir Gibbs,
just I just see Jamiir Gibbs when I watch him
and then just look at the level of explosion being
able to dump the ball out to him, get him
out on the edge. With those pinn and pool types
of plays. But then if you want a little more power,
and we're talking about later on in the draft, that
you can get value from a running back position. I'm
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gonna say Damian Martinez running back for the University of Miami.
Why because he was really productive with cam Ward throwing
him the ball. But still you looking for a certain
level of tough toughness. Remember last year, the idea was
Audrect Estimate was supposed to be that physical back for
the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
This is where Damian Martinez can be.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That same guy that they thought that Audrey Esimate was
supposed to be last season.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Have we given up on Estimate though? I mean just
because he fumbled the ball a couple of times, Well,
I saw some promising stuff from him last year.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I estimate that he will be He'll be in camp
and he'll get another opportunity. Just because he's so young
and cost effective and all that kind of stuff, makes
no sense.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
To cut him now.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
But he's gonna have to come in prove he's a
sure handed ball carrier and able to pick up yardage
in those situations where they need him. I mean, you've
seen Sean Payton's rotations before you go back to the
Norland says, look at how he's doing. Latavious Murray, Pierre Thomas,
morek Ingram, guys like that. You throw in whoever the
scat back or receiving back was, the Reggie Bushes, the
darren Sprolls, before you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Get the bell cowed Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You have to be the guy who's the master of
the situation that you're brought in for.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And estimate was not that this past year.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So you guys overthinking this situation because I'm gonna go
back to something I know, knowing as though Sean Payton
is Bill Parcelles disciple. Bill had this thing about guys
putting the ball on the turf. If you put the
ball on it, t if, guess what, you're closer to
being someone.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Else's back than my bag.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And keep this in mind, Well, if you think about
the Buffalo game, we always we were expecting abject estime
to play in that game against Buffalo. Guess what he
did not, So you say, and the Broncos have moved forward,
they have an opportunity to draft some of these younger backs.
Now Sean gets a chance that the pick of the
letter up the back that he chooses, So that means
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wherever aujac Esime thought he was, now knock him down
three more pegs.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, we're not gonna fumble this. We gotta hit a break.
But KAE Sports be back after this with you on
a Friday, David Ryan Routh, I'll be back next week.
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Speaker 1 (21:48):
Guys want to stay tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Jack Corgan, Jeris Shimmel on the call find six six
nine zeros in text line. Thanks to James Palmer for
joining us earlier. Hope you guys enjoyed the big boards segment.
In the last segment, quite a bit to get to
Nick Nick said the group chat a message earlier today.
You're obsessed with this pro football golf thing where they
play like it's like soccer and golf mashed in the one.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It's kind of like a foot golf type of tournament.
Basically it is combining soccer. You know what, I can't.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Even like, Like I think I think of pickleballs as
an obscure sport, and here you are finding fighting foot golf.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Well, when you start to it's late at night, you
bored and you start searching. You just come across these
crazy things. But not what I searched for at night
when i'm board, That is not what I'm looking for. Well,
I'm just I'm just searching and things just kind of
pop up and you go down this wormhole. But because
I was looking at like kind of like unusual sports,
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right because this is the time of year obviously dominated
by a lot of draft talk and who's going to
take who? So I just started looking for different sports
that I didn't know anything about. But this is a
combination of both golf and soccer, and I thought it
was really challenging because when you look at golf, they're
trying to get this small ball through a small hole
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and they have the stake and you got win in
different clubs or whatever. But when it comes to this
game of foot golf, you don't. You're using your expertise
as a as a kicker. So when it comes to
bending it like Beckham, you really have to do that.
Because with golfers there's a sand trap maybe in front
of I don't know, whole sixteen. The same thing happens
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with this, Well, how do you kind of kick the ball?
In one hundred and thirty two yards avoid the trap
and still get it on the green.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So I thought it was quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
First of all, how many these courses even exist, Like
golf courses are profitable.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I can't imagine this is profitable.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Second of all, bending it like Benjamin totally different scenario. Yeah,
he usually refers to my spinal cord after I've done
some kind of athletic activity.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, but this, I have to admit it. I mean,
you brought up pickleball. There is putt put golf. I
would have to imagine that that this could be on
the verge of being the next big thing because this
is something like pickleball everyone can participate in and doesn't
really make a difference what your age is at the time.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I feel like that this is going to be something
that former soccer players are going to excel at very well.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Probably.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But the whole the gist of it is there is
a sport for every single person.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh yeah, if you can think of it, there is
a sport for it and.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
An adult concept context site dedicated to it.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yes, and I saw it.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I was like, wow, I had to introduce it to
the to the gods and see if this would be
a sport or even a activity they would want to
participate in.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
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Speaker 2 (24:46):
The four to one oh says, try fouling, which are footballing,
which is apparently football and bowling combined. I don't know
if you throw a football at bowling pins or something.
I need a texture.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
You gotta explain now, please expect, because I'm thinking, do
you take the bowling ball run like?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's like you're running back and the bowling ball and
you got to the way I think you're throwing a
football and fowling pins. Yes, balling way more sense. Well, Greg,
you sound like you've done this before. No, I was
actually watching the show a couple of weeks ago. I
forget who it was.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I think it was a Bengals player was talking about
he was at an event where they were playing it.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh okay, so I guess they have this on the
old show.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I picture I picture Grant more than the competitive ax throwing.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Never done it, never done it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I figured you were a bad acts at it.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I think it's kind of cheesy. Okay, you think it
sounded season a waste of mind. The hatchet throwing, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You could be like who was that guy on Doctor
Quinn that through the Tomahawks.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't remember that. I remember that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, Well about Hang Pong GUYX.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Throwing is dangerous for for me. Have you seen the
videos where it bounces back? Yes, that's what we get. No,
thank you? Yes, yeah, you're usually drinking at those things.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, all of that recipe for disaster drinking acts. Throwing
it could bounce back, just a recipe for get you
an argument.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Each one of you has to hatchet in your hand.
We got a leader. Somebody asks, you said to us,
what do you guys.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Think of the Tiger Golf League. You guys seen that
the sort of video game golf league thing.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, where they drive on the simulator. Yeah, just that
is not my brand for me either not.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I started watching one of them, and I'm like, I, yes,
I do like the crowd atmosphere of it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think that is sure.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But I mean I get that on a top golf
you know, like the top golf thing like that, I
sort of get.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I don't get the video game golf thing. Well, I
think it is taking.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
The regular game to a whole different level because now
eventually they're going to get to a point where they're
going to allow people to do this virtually, where you
can say, well, you can simulate the game at home,
where you don't have to actually be on a course
and you don't have to be as athletic. So I
can see that being in a direction that they're going in.
But this is just your lend. You just kind of
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dropping the Ray crumbs right now.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Well, speaking of real sports, the Master's update, Oh justin Rose,
this is after round two is complete now justin Rose
eight under, your leader, Rayce and d Chambeau seven under,
one shot back, Rory McElroy six under, Corey Connors six under,
and Terrell Hatton five under, which is also where Scotti
Scheffler is.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's what I need he, Scotty and Rory Bolt to
finish top five for my parlay.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So, uh, something I'm keeping an eye on there.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
It is an interesting thing and I've always wanted this
ever since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Is when you watch golf.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And the people commentating on golf is so different from
every other sport, and I'm like, dude, you're not on
the golf course with the dude, You're in the studio.
Why the hell are you whispering?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, they need their concentration. I think it's atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You're trying to make it like it's you know, it's
what's one because I mean, while I think golf would
be that much more funny if Chris Rock we're sitting there,
you know, being the commentary.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Just even feel a little bit disjointed. So you see,
if you're going to do that, sign me up for
Chris Rock. Is Samuel Jackson.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Or like they did with the Olympics where they had
that alternative cast with Kevin Hart and Snoop Dogg, that
would be entertaining.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
It now takes something that seemed to be I don't
want to say boring because I don't want to insult golfers,
but sometimes it's like, dude, it doesn't get exciting to
find a run.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, And I mean that in every possible concept. And
you understand what I'm getting at.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, well, well I didn't. Sometimes you watch it's like
watching paint dry. It's like, give me something else.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I was telling Davis yesterday, Golf's what I put it
in the background when I'm trying to take a nap.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, which which I mean it's hard.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
For you to go to sleep to at night at night,
but I'm saying during the day, it's not you know,
you know me, I'll go right back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yes, I gotta get a nap in before my nap. Yes,
but I'm gonna fail that nappers favorite napper.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
But I think that, you know, I give a lot
of credit to those guys who are golfers. It is,
in my opinion, a really tough sport, is really stressful
because you can you can see where you want.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Your ball to go, but it doesn't always go that direction.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's very much one of those things you got nobody
to blame but yourself, right, Yes, like at the end
of the day, like you got nobody it's you know,
in basketball, it's a team sport, hockey, footballer's team. There
could be any number of variables into something. And golf
it was you.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Well, well, you can always blame your caddy and your
and your golf club.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You could, but I don't think you're really gonna get
away with that. And yes, we've seen people do both.
You're not really gonna get away with that. You're the
one that lined up, You're the one that that you know,
that struck the club. You're the one that shot the ball.
It's just one of those sports where you got nobody
to blame it yourself.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Listen, man, Uh, just kind of circling back really quickly.
I would love to see some company bring foot golf
uh to the good city.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Of the You're gonna prefer gonna purchase a professional foot
golf team because I'm not. I'm not purch the Walton
Pick Group and ownership group.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I just want to do it because it's an excellent
outdoor activities and for parents who put their kids in soccer,
it's just another just competitive thing for them to do.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's all I'm for it. I want to go try
this out.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Is there anybody place in Denver we can do this?
Like during your search way down the rabbit hole, did
you find.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I did not find one of those places that existed here.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So we're just.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Gonna have to just settle for top golf and just
kind of your random You and I got.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Balls off the thing a top golf now.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But when you get.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Thrown out, well I will.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I will get thrown out because you won't get I'll
get thrown out in band.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'll have my picture up there on the front. Do
not let this guy in you.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Know what that would happen, because we already established you
are the job morant of the radio air run.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Not the job morant. I I hate you for that
because there's no response, there's no republe to it. Filled
in four Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, those guys be back
next week. A lot of a lot of sports action tonight.
Obviously you're gonna have the Colorado Rockies right here on KOWA.
Coverage begins, Uh over an hour here, seven o'clock Corgan,
(31:00):
Jery Shimble on the call.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That will be uh, a lot of fun. We got the.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Nuggets playing tonight against the Memphis Grizzlies, and Jamal Murray
will be a go per interim coach Adelman as of Uh, yeah,
Jamal Murray will be a go tonight for the Denver Nuggets.
So interesting to see how much he gets worked into
the rotation on that.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Oh, that's gonna be really tricky because we definitely know
that Jalen Pickett has been a fan favorite.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
So Russe's minutes, Yeah, I think a lot of trouble here.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
We may see uh Russ's minutes uh reduce a lot
in this game.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, Yeah, that'll be uh, that'll be right bender for
sure to see obviously Grizzlies here at the Nuggets. There
is a scenario which there could be a five way tie.
By the way, if the Nuggets lose this one and
then beat the Rockets and there's a few other conditions.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Today, the Grizzlies gotta win out.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
There could be a five way tie that would have
to be split in terms of the playoffs, and that
would be that would be fascinating.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And I think the Nuggets only hold the time breaker
over like two of those, right, they don't have any
be like six or seven.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Right, so that could be, uh, that could be the
Nuggets need to win out. Let's just put it that way.
And as a matter of fact, that is our thing
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Speaker 1 (32:19):
Tonight's game grants numbers, We've.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Got Grizzlies at Nuggets, Nuggets minus six and a half.
You over under it two forty four and a half
and I uh, I crapt the bed last night. I
went over two after having a perk week weeks and
it destroyed it. Man, I'm sitting here, I just watching,
and I knew the under was coaching the first half.
I was like, oh my goodness, Okay, but I thought
at least the Grizzlies would be able to hold up
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their end.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
If they could not. So do we have David Ryan's picks?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, first off, I got to give all you guys
some credit.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Great week for all of you.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You're at six and two, Ryan, Dave, and Nick all
at five and three. Ryan tonight taking the Nuggets and
the under the under, and Dave being a hometown hater,
going with the and the over the over Alright, Nick man.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
This one was really tough for me because I didn't
know how the direction to really go and how the
Nuggets are gonna respond.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But you know what, I'll take the Nuggets in over
the over. Interesting. I believe that the Nuggets will win
this game. But but like what pregnant pause there.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I'm gonna take the Grizzlies plus six and a half
because I think they'll cover.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And I'm gonna take the over of two forty four
and a half after I was an idiot last night
taking the under. Is this because you and John Moran
are so similar. Obviously it's me and Josh. He's looking
out for his boy.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Fix thieves guys had in the shotgun Willies after the game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean, look, I don't like to tell people where
I'm going to be ahead of time, but yes.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I think it's important to put money back into the
local economy.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's uh, you know, it's me. It's just being ultruistic. Well,
it is when people chase their dreams, that's what that's
what I do. Yeah, yeah, it's right.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's what I feel good Friday the future doctors and
lawyers of America by putting money in their pockets and
getting them through med school and law school.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Been taking feel Good Friday to a whole new meeting
for meaning.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's yeah, way better than grinding out Saturday.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Totally totally different thing there as well. Appreciate you guys
being along for the ride.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We got a one hour of Broncos Country tonight coming
up next, and then of course the Colorado Rockies baseball
coverage starts here at seven o'clock here on Koway.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You want to stay tuned for that. We got to
hit a break, we come back. It's Broncos Country Night
Here Okay, twenty
Grant Smith here with you five six six nine zeros.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The text line, I want to shout out to James
Palmer for joining us in the last segment of James
Palmer TV on Twitter. You guys missed any part of that,
can go to Kawi's Sports Ko Colora dot com and sorry,
I'm trying to.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Get the r L down here at marbles in.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
My mouth at kay Colora dot com and get the
podcast there. Grant's just laughing at me, just outright laughing
at me right now. I see you over there. Nick
and I do a segment on Broncos Country tonight where
we do our big board where we rank for the
NFL Draft, where we have the upcoming prospects at each position. So,
without further ado, we're going to bring that here, the
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big board.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
No, it's the time, boy, time.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
I do.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
We ansigure it out further ado and then we do
an intro. So he's actually further Ado. Just making my
statement quite ironic.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Nick, I believe you have eight a top eight tight ends.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I had a top ten, So I'm gonna not my
first two out right away, and then we'll get to
here number eight. My number ten is Luke. No relation
to Nick Lache out of Iowa. He is a competent
all around tight end who I think could develop into
something high upside guy. Probably not going to be a
guy that's the trapped very early. You're looking at the
late day three guy, but he's a guy that you
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could potentially develop into something.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And then Clemson's.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Jake briding Stool more of a specialized pass game weapon,
third down, red zone kind of guy. Sixty six, a
little slower obviously at four some five, but a guy
I think could could project to be something in the
NFL SAW. Now we jump into it, we each have
our top eight from here. You at a number eight have.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I have Mitchew Evans Mitchew's tight end out of Notre
Dame sixty six six five, I mean two hundred sixty
pounds sixty five. And for me, if you want to
run a dual tight end set and you alay got
run a lot of power, which I thing the Broncos
really want to do as far as get their running
game going, that would be a nice direction to go in.
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But once again, this is a guy that is not
a Day one guy obviously day two, and you can
get him later than that. But I love his size,
his drive, his leg drive, and it would definitely help
the Broncos out from a run game standpoint.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
All right, my number eight is a local kid right here,
Cherry Creek Gunner help who played for Dave Logan former
wide receiver who switched two tight ends, but an academic
guy as well. He's a good pass catcher, natural hands
pass catcher. He's got great body control, but kind of
a lack of play strength at the white tight end.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Things.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Stronger defensive ends are gonna be able to overwhelm him,
and that's something to worry about. He'll be able to
contribute to the passing game day one. He's got to
develop him as a blocker. You know, he did not
have the greatest combine, but he had the foot issue
obviously while there. He's certainly are a better athlete than
he tested at at that point obviously, and so that'll
be one of those things.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
But I've got Gunner Helm at number eight.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
At number seven, Terrence Ferguson, Terren's Ferguson, no relations at
least to this point.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
I believe her brother. So you look identical, really a red.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Hand, Yeah, six y five fifty five pounds I like
his ability to run a lot of the short intermediate routes,
but I always think about, okay, well, familiarity. Why everything
here in Denver's based on trying to set boat Nicks
up to be successful, So why not go in in
that direction if you're looking for a guy who can actually,
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you know, stretch the feel.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
He's not as fast.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
As you would like, but most of these tight ends
are not a reliable target with great hands.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
He's also my number seven, Terrence Ferguson, So and again,
familiar relations you gotta get on the show. And for
anybody who's ever seen a picture of Terrence Ferguson, that
that should should look quite funny. You know, reliable hands, catcher,
you know, good body control, willing blocker, lacks top ends
speed and I say willing blocker, but maybe not the
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strongest blocker and occasionally all round off the routes.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
But I'm with you. A familiarity with Bonnicks there at
Oregon could.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Lead that to be a potentially a Denver Broncos target.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Number six.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Well, number six for me is tight end out of
bowling green. He's a little on a I guess small
side of how are fanning this is.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
The most agreement you and I have had because this
is also my number six.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Okay, so well, once again, obviously I have him this
far back because the size. I mean, that's kind of
a size of maybe a linebacker or whatever. But obviously
if you using a guy from a tight end standpoint,
you know you want a little bit more of a
robust type of body. But yeah, because of his size,
this is why I have him as I guess as
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low as I have him.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But also that speed. He was like a four to
seven to one.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
But if you can because if you're going to be
two hundred and thirty pounds, I need you to run
a little faster than that.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, that's my problem with him too. I mean, he
is two hundred and thirty pounds. That's not going to
be effective as a blocker at the NFL level. Limited
play strength, still try to get counter moves, you know,
you look at the stats in their eye popping, but again,
limited competition in the MAC. All due respect to Grant
over there who constantly tells us about the action going
on his release package, and he's a little bit right.
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I don't even think he's a tight end in the NFL.
I think he's a big slot receiver at two hundred
and thirty pounds. You have to put some weight on
him at some point to make him a tight end. Yeah,
I mean, that's probably really where he's at. He did
have some positional versatility in line forty three point six
percent of snaps, but twenty eight point six out of
the slot and twenty seven point eight out wide. So
that suggests that he's probably more of an off the line,
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y h back, you know, versatile chess piece than he
is a tight end at the NFL weapon at the
NFL level, although we heard Sean Payton talk about the
joker role, this is a guy who can kind of
play multiple positions with that kind of thing. Maybe that's
something to look at. Who did you have at number five?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
At number five, Mason Taylor out of LSU, you seem
very shocked by that.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I have him a little higher. Oh you do.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
Well, that's going to be really interesting obviously, you know
you go to his so called NFL pedigree. His dad,
Jason Taylor, guy who I played against, was a great
outside edge rusher.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
His son.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Now I'm playing tight end for LSU, and one thing
I think about this position once again, you want a
guy who if you can get like a due versatility
out of him and what I mean by inline blocker,
but also a guy that you can kind of flex out.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I'm not saying that.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
You're getting that in Mason Taylor, but once again we're
ranking tight ends.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
That's exactly where he falls.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
For me, I would love to see was getting a
little more running and explosion from Mason Taylor.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
But I happy at number five.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
My number five also has NFL blood lines, but a
different guy. I've got to run a gas in the
second out of Syracuse. His father obviously was a wide receiver.
He's more of a flex tight end at the I
guess it's more of a flex tight end the NFL
blocking techniques at a little underdeveloped and doesn't have you know,
a lot of that strength and a little change the
direction limitations. More of a build up runner, but natural hands, catcher, explosives,
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straight line speed. Loved him in contested catch situations. You
go back and watch the Syracuse tape. I mean, he
just pops. He's got medium and deep receiving skills like
a receiver.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
I like him a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
I think he's a guy that you're gonna have to
teach how to block, but he's at least got a
willingness to try to get in there and mix it up.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Okay, so at number four I have higher on my
board than you have.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Is a Colorado native gunner him?
Speaker 4 (07:35):
No, I like gunner as far as pass catching because
when we think about where the NFL is right now,
you know a lot of teams utilize a lot of
eleven personnel. If you get tight end and they can
fletch you out and you can create pass game, matchtips,
nightmares for the divisive coordinator, that's exactly the direction that
you want to go. And you know, great hands, he
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can run the routes down in between the scenes. But
he also he he's got enough skill what you get,
flex him out, get him off the ball, and you
run that corner route.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
For you well.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
And Dave Logan to tell you they've coached him in
high school. He's a guy that started out receiver and
then ultimately made the transition. So he's got some of
those receiving skills out in eight receiving stuff because he
started out at that position. My number four, it's a
guy I think you were pretty high on. So I'm
thinking we probably haven't gotten to him yet. Is Elijah
Royal out out of the you out of Miami. I
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got him a lot hot higher than.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Okay, well, there you go.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Former four star recruit out of Texas sixty four two
fifty one. Prototypical size, savvy route guy, natural hands catcher.
You know, he knows the one of the things that
you when you watched him because I was watching the
cam word stuff, then you watching him, this dude knows
how to find the saft spot and zone and sit
down and for a tight end like that, because that's
what you're going to be. You're going to be used
at that in a lot of these offenses in the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
In addition to the other things.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
If you've got that knack for finding the scenes in
the you know, in the sauce spot in the zones
and sitting down like that, that that's gonna go over
big time. The knocks on him the medical history dude,
like that's that's one of the durability concerns.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
The left knee. That's one of those things that's that's
gonna bother you.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
You do see him round out the routes a little bit,
uh and then watching him blocked hand placement is weird.
Somebody's got to teach him how to block. He's willing
to do it, but somebody's got to teach him how
to do it because he's got weird hand placement. He's
gonna get worked by some some NFL defensive ends if
he's doing that.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
But I like him.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
I just didn't have him quite as high as as
I think you do. And I think I think you
and I probably I think my third guy, this guy
will surprise you a little bit as we moved for
you and I probably have the same one too.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
The fright third guy is Michigan tight end Coaston Loveland.
You know, oh, yes, you really have a royal high
then well, I mean I mean if Coaston is city
at three, yeah, I mean obviously the number is a
favor of Royo, but uh yeah, I mean you look
at a coast in one once again, one of those
big type lilide receivers kind of a create the matchups
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nightmares for you know, undersized linebackers. I mean, he doesn't
run as well as you would like a tight end
to run, but we're still talking about tight ends and ideas.
Do you work well in short space as far as
third and one, but more on politely inside the red
zone because of that height. You know, he's got a
great catch radius, is being able to extend his hands.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
So that's the guy I had. But number three, my
number three a guy you have a little bit lower.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Mason Taylor LSU obviously the son of Jason Taylor, the
Hall of Fame or nephew of linebacker Zach Thomas. You know,
he started carving at his legacy back at Saint Thomas
Aquinas High School, who, by the way, his coach was Brianniedermeyer.
Brian Piedermeier was just hired this offseason to the Denver
Broncos as an offensive quality control guy. I see he's
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trying to make the connection. Something to keep your eye
on there. I'm just putting it out there. If you
don't like it, send it back. But I'm just making
a connection so all the listeners get little inside information.
Natural hands catcher, great spatial awareness, fluid athlete, reliable target
and clutch situations.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And you saw in game winning conversions they went to him.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Look at the ali pam again, look at the critical
fourth down catch and gets old miss.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
You know, he was the guy that they went to
when they needed it.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And and if you're a tight end at LSU wide receiver,
you if you're paying attention, if you're a tight end
there and they're going to you in critical situations, that
says something about what they feel about his reality in
those situations. Definitely some technical refinement as a run blocker,
struggle to anchor against power rushers, limited experience as an
inline guy.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
But I think he can get there. So you know,
I like him.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
I like him a lot, and I do think he
could possibly be a Denver broadcast target.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Maybe maybe in the second round.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Well, my number two is Elijah Royo out of the
U and I mean deceptive speed.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
And once again when you watched wait wait wait wait wait,
deceptive speed, Yes, white deceptively fast.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Cliche here, Well, I'd say less bill because well, you
think about his ability to accelerate right, Sometimes when the
guys come off the line, some guys are really quick.
We get that quick bird. Some guys it may take
them a moment to kind of get into that full acceleration.
That's how I look at Arroyo. There was a play
that I put it on social media while back well,
they were playing Joorgia tech and he was in the slot,
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and they used with Streppo well in combination with him,
And I mean as soon as he got the ball
in his hand, boll, he just separated himself. So I
like that that ability from him being able to run
every route on.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
A road tree. You mentioned it before.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
As far as block him, that's not really his forte.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
He definitely has to get coach stuff on that. But
all depends.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
If you're looking for a guy like Elijah Royo, then
you're looking for a guy who can separate down the field,
and you're looking at him more as a pass catching
tight end than the inline blocker.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
One thing I will say about Arroyo that none of
these other guys I might say none of these other
guys had, but it jumps out is his ability to
catch over the shoulder like a receiver.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
You know, every number king, Yeah, he does not have
like some of these guys.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
They gotta flash their numbers back towards the quarterback. Arroyo
was a guy like Gadsden who was great catching ovid shoulder.
My number two was Coaston Loveland, who you've already been over.
There'd be easy to accept. Athlete plays like an oversize receiver.
You know, great nasty route run, a great hand catcher.
He's great down the seams. And I like the fact
that he runs angry with the ball in his hands
after the catch. That's a that's a big part of that,
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you know, get that dog in him. Uh, and certainly
could find the sawt spot in some weaknesses, you know,
blocking technique, play strength, that's some sing you're gonna have
to do.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Another guy who rounds off the routes a little bit.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's something guys coming out of college do though they
tend to round those routes out a little bit less precise.
You tend to fix pick that up as a as
a pro player, raw as a pass protector and limited
experience staying into block that was that wasn't something that
he really did there, So something he's gonna have to
develop as a you know if as.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
He gets into a three down role in the pro game.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
And I think it should come as a shock to
nobody that we both have the same guy at number
one here.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yes, uh, Tyler Warren from Penn State, you know, uh,
the Knitton Lions. And I've loved him watching him over
the past couple of years because he is the tight
end personify in today's NFL because you can line him
up anywhere. You can line them up in the backfield.
If you love a guy like Taysom Hill and how
dynamic he is, you know Warren gives you that same
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level of skill set. Now, Warren can once he gets
his hands on you, I mean, he can drive you
off the ball. But he's not one of those guys
that you say, you know what, every time you turn
on the tape he's destroying guys. He's shown as though
he has the ability to do that once he gets
his hands on you. But looking at just the versatility
that he has from a tight end, I mean, I
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think about George Kittle, right, if you were to add
put George Kittle and Travis Kelce together, you member those
who get guys together, you get Warren in his ability
all the head.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
He's developing consistency. Is an inline blocker.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
But you know the effort is there, got a little
it got redirected a little too easy with power rushers.
The finesse guys struggle with him. But the power guys
that kind of got through. He's gonna have to get
that functional strength the NFL level. NFL wait, real.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Will take care of that. Flex him out. Yeah, there
especially do that.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
The big thing about him high school quarterback, and he
came to Penn State as a dual threat quarterback before
making the switch to tight end.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
And that shows through.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
I mean you can see the football like you you
can see him sort of diagnosing coverages before the snap
and the and the mind working on that kind of stuff.
He was dangerous in the seam, a red zone, nightmare
catches ball. Well, I'm not saying he's brock powers, but
he's certainly a guy that that I think is absolutely
going to have an impact at the NFL level. So
I don't think the Broncos is gonna have an opportunity
draft him. I think he's gonna be long gone by
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the time Denver drafts. But he's certainly somebody who if
he were to follow the twenty you would have to
be very interesting. Look, I would see the forty time
on Sean Payton as he sprints to the podium to
get that to get the car.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Is there anything in his game that he could be
a potential buster or is he just such a rock
solid prospect that he's gonna you think he's going to
be a quality player.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
I think I think the floor here is very high.
I think short of an NFL career littered with injuries,
I think you've got an incredibly productive player here.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
I mean out out of going to a team with
the offensive coordinator who is just so dumbfounded that he
doesn't know how to use Tyler Warren.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
I mean, this kid is a walking first down.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Yeah, and look at what we've seen the game turn
into and involve is looking at the combination and the
chemistry that we've seen with Travis Kelce and a guy
like Patrick Mahomes. If the quarterback wherever he goes, can
continue to work and build that relationship, you could see
something similar to that. Think about you know Sam Laporter
with with the Detroit Lions. Right, Look how well he
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flourished as a as a as a tight end in
this league. So Warren has a lot of upside, but
all depends on where he goes and if the offensive
coordinator is not stubborn and can think outside of themselves,
this kid should.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Have a great career.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, I mean this is I don't see. This is
one of those guys where it's I mean, nothing's a
sure thing, but this is a close to a short thing.
As you get West Coast and spread offense, is both
are gonna be salivating over over everything that he does.
Is he's operated from multiple alignments in college. You've seen it.
It's this is I mean, even run heavy team shouldn't
overlook this guy.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You know, well, think about a more versatile Mark Andrews. Yeah,
kind of me from that standpoint, right, Yes.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
And that's pretty high praise right there, right, And that's
that's really read to go. Maybe the route, maybe they'll
excuse me.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
The blocking still needs some work, but that's he's a
better athlete and a more refined Mark Andrews.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I mean, I know we keep going.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Back to blocking, but most teams right now, I mean,
you can actually create blocking without putting a guy in
the action. And the way you do it is flex
him out, get him outside the box. So guess what,
the guy who has to cover him, they got to
step out. So now you get a more favorable box
to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, he blocked the guy. We're not even blocking him.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Yeah, that's what That's one of those things if you
need if you're trying to do that, you can't just
flex him out and then all of a sudden, you're
going to pull that linebacker out of this, probably a
safety because you're not really putting a linebacker on this
guy to try to cut, but.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You're pulling a safety out of the box. You pulled
him out wide. And just like you said, with Warren being.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
So athletic, being as though he played the quarterback position,
now you can throw a tight end slip screens see
him just like you throw to a wid receiver.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Right, That's all I'm saying. And that's the thing. Depending
on what you have to set up, you flex him out.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
You're looking to see if he's pulling a linebacker, safety,
your corner out of the box, whatever you If you
pull it a corner, well then you're running his direction
because you know he's gonna overwhelm them. If you've got
a linebacker out there, you're probably throwing to him because
the linebacker's not gonna be able to keep up with
the athleticism. So he is that versatile mismatch that I
think allows an offensive coordinator to really open up the
book a little bit.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
There was one question I wanted to ask you guys
from the text sign from the nine zero nine.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
While we're talking about the draft.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Ben and Nick as well, call your shot on which
running back or two the Broncos will pick if they
take two in the draft.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, I mean, if he's there, Omrion Hampton, Treviat Henderson
will get some consideration as well. If Hampton is gone,
and then I'll throw a name out there for a
little bit later. It would be Lequin Allen out of Syracuse.
If you've any back in here. Sort of reminds you
a diet Alba Kamara. La Quinn Allen's great on those
choice routes and all that kind of stuff. Not the
best runner in the world, but a pure running back.
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But in terms of being a guy who can catch
the ball out of the backfield and pass protect or
la Quinn Allen or something else.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
What round does he projected him, Oh, probably a fel
for six, So it's get some value.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, you can get him one day three. So for me, it.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Would be like Cueijeon Jenkins from Ohio State because Jamiir Gibbs,
just I just see Jamiir Gibbs when I watch him
and then just look at the level of explosion being
able to dump the ball out to him, get him
out on the edge. With those pinn and pool types
of plays. But then if you want a little more power,
and we're talking about later on in the draft, that
you can get value from a running back position. I'm
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gonna say Damian Martinez running back for the University of Miami.
Why because he was really productive with cam Ward throwing
him the ball. But still you looking for a certain
level of tough toughness. Remember last year, the idea was
Audrect Estimate was supposed to be that physical back for
the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
This is where Damian Martinez can be.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
That same guy that they thought that Audrey Esimate was
supposed to be last season.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Have we given up on Estimate though? I mean just
because he fumbled the ball a couple of times, Well,
I saw some promising stuff from him last year.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
I estimate that he will be He'll be in camp
and he'll get another opportunity. Just because he's so young
and cost effective and all that kind of stuff, makes
no sense.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
To cut him now.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
But he's gonna have to come in prove he's a
sure handed ball carrier and able to pick up yardage
in those situations where they need him. I mean, you've
seen Sean Payton's rotations before you go back to the
Norland says, look at how he's doing. Latavious Murray, Pierre Thomas,
morek Ingram, guys like that. You throw in whoever the
scat back or receiving back was, the Reggie Bushes, the
darren Sprolls, before you.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Get the bell cowed Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
You have to be the guy who's the master of
the situation that you're brought in for.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
And estimate was not that this past year.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So you guys overthinking this situation because I'm gonna go
back to something I know, knowing as though Sean Payton
is Bill Parcelles disciple. Bill had this thing about guys
putting the ball on the turf. If you put the
ball on it, t if, guess what, you're closer to
being someone.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Else's back than my bag.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
And keep this in mind, Well, if you think about
the Buffalo game, we always we were expecting abject estime
to play in that game against Buffalo. Guess what he
did not, So you say, and the Broncos have moved forward,
they have an opportunity to draft some of these younger backs.
Now Sean gets a chance that the pick of the
letter up the back that he chooses, So that means
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wherever aujac Esime thought he was, now knock him down
three more pegs.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Well, we're not gonna fumble this. We gotta hit a break.
But KAE Sports be back after this with you on
a Friday, David Ryan Routh, I'll be back next week.
We got Rockies baseball cut up seven o'clock here on Kawa.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Guys want to stay tuned for that.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Jack Corgan, Jeris Shimmel on the call find six six
nine zeros in text line. Thanks to James Palmer for
joining us earlier. Hope you guys enjoyed the big boards segment.
In the last segment, quite a bit to get to
Nick Nick said the group chat a message earlier today.
You're obsessed with this pro football golf thing where they
play like it's like soccer and golf mashed in the one.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
It's kind of like a foot golf type of tournament.
Basically it is combining soccer. You know what, I can't.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Even like, Like I think I think of pickleballs as
an obscure sport, and here you are finding fighting foot golf.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Well, when you start to it's late at night, you
bored and you start searching. You just come across these
crazy things. But not what I searched for at night
when i'm board, That is not what I'm looking for. Well,
I'm just I'm just searching and things just kind of
pop up and you go down this wormhole. But because
I was looking at like kind of like unusual sports,
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right because this is the time of year obviously dominated
by a lot of draft talk and who's going to
take who? So I just started looking for different sports
that I didn't know anything about. But this is a
combination of both golf and soccer, and I thought it
was really challenging because when you look at golf, they're
trying to get this small ball through a small hole
(23:11):
and they have the stake and you got win in
different clubs or whatever. But when it comes to this
game of foot golf, you don't. You're using your expertise
as a as a kicker. So when it comes to
bending it like Beckham, you really have to do that.
Because with golfers there's a sand trap maybe in front
of I don't know, whole sixteen. The same thing happens
(23:33):
with this, Well, how do you kind of kick the ball?
In one hundred and thirty two yards avoid the trap
and still get it on the green.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So I thought it was quite interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
First of all, how many these courses even exist, Like
golf courses are profitable.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I can't imagine this is profitable.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Second of all, bending it like Benjamin totally different scenario. Yeah,
he usually refers to my spinal cord after I've done
some kind of athletic activity.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Yeah, but this, I have to admit it. I mean,
you brought up pickleball. There is putt put golf. I
would have to imagine that that this could be on
the verge of being the next big thing because this
is something like pickleball everyone can participate in and doesn't
really make a difference what your age is at the time.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
I feel like that this is going to be something
that former soccer players are going to excel at very well.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Probably.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
But the whole the gist of it is there is
a sport for every single person.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Oh yeah, if you can think of it, there is
a sport for it and.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
An adult concept context site dedicated to it.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yes, and I saw it.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I was like, wow, I had to introduce it to
the to the gods and see if this would be
a sport or even a activity they would want to
participate in.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Five six, six, nine zeros of text line.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
The four to one oh says, try fouling, which are footballing,
which is apparently football and bowling combined. I don't know
if you throw a football at bowling pins or something.
I need a texture.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
You gotta explain now, please expect, because I'm thinking, do
you take the bowling ball run like?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
It's like you're running back and the bowling ball and
you got to the way I think you're throwing a
football and fowling pins. Yes, balling way more sense. Well, Greg,
you sound like you've done this before. No, I was
actually watching the show a couple of weeks ago. I
forget who it was.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I think it was a Bengals player was talking about
he was at an event where they were playing it.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Oh okay, so I guess they have this on the
old show.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
I picture I picture Grant more than the competitive ax throwing.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Never done it, never done it.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I figured you were a bad acts at it.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
I think it's kind of cheesy. Okay, you think it
sounded season a waste of mind. The hatchet throwing, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You could be like who was that guy on Doctor
Quinn that through the Tomahawks.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
I don't remember that. I remember that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, Well about Hang Pong GUYX.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Throwing is dangerous for for me. Have you seen the
videos where it bounces back? Yes, that's what we get. No,
thank you? Yes, yeah, you're usually drinking at those things.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Yeah, all of that recipe for disaster drinking acts. Throwing
it could bounce back, just a recipe for get you
an argument.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Each one of you has to hatchet in your hand.
We got a leader. Somebody asks, you said to us,
what do you guys.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Think of the Tiger Golf League. You guys seen that
the sort of video game golf league thing.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
Yeah, where they drive on the simulator. Yeah, just that
is not my brand for me either not.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
I started watching one of them, and I'm like, I, yes,
I do like the crowd atmosphere of it.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I think that is sure.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
But I mean I get that on a top golf
you know, like the top golf thing like that, I
sort of get.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
I don't get the video game golf thing. Well, I
think it is taking.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
The regular game to a whole different level because now
eventually they're going to get to a point where they're
going to allow people to do this virtually, where you
can say, well, you can simulate the game at home,
where you don't have to actually be on a course
and you don't have to be as athletic. So I
can see that being in a direction that they're going in.
But this is just your lend. You just kind of
(26:59):
dropping the Ray crumbs right now.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Well, speaking of real sports, the Master's update, Oh justin Rose,
this is after round two is complete now justin Rose
eight under, your leader, Rayce and d Chambeau seven under,
one shot back, Rory McElroy six under, Corey Connors six under,
and Terrell Hatton five under, which is also where Scotti
Scheffler is.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's what I need he, Scotty and Rory Bolt to
finish top five for my parlay.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
So, uh, something I'm keeping an eye on there.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
It is an interesting thing and I've always wanted this
ever since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Is when you watch golf.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
And the people commentating on golf is so different from
every other sport, and I'm like, dude, you're not on
the golf course with the dude, You're in the studio.
Why the hell are you whispering?
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Well, they need their concentration. I think it's atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
You're trying to make it like it's you know, it's
what's one because I mean, while I think golf would
be that much more funny if Chris Rock we're sitting there,
you know, being the commentary.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Just even feel a little bit disjointed. So you see,
if you're going to do that, sign me up for
Chris Rock. Is Samuel Jackson.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Or like they did with the Olympics where they had
that alternative cast with Kevin Hart and Snoop Dogg, that
would be entertaining.
Speaker 4 (28:05):
It now takes something that seemed to be I don't
want to say boring because I don't want to insult golfers,
but sometimes it's like, dude, it doesn't get exciting to
find a run.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Right, And I mean that in every possible concept. And
you understand what I'm getting at.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Yeah, well, well I didn't. Sometimes you watch it's like
watching paint dry. It's like, give me something else.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
I was telling Davis yesterday, Golf's what I put it
in the background when I'm trying to take a nap.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, which which I mean it's hard.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
For you to go to sleep to at night at night,
but I'm saying during the day, it's not you know,
you know me, I'll go right back to sleep.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yes, I gotta get a nap in before my nap. Yes,
but I'm gonna fail that nappers favorite napper.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
But I think that, you know, I give a lot
of credit to those guys who are golfers. It is,
in my opinion, a really tough sport, is really stressful
because you can you can see where you want.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Your ball to go, but it doesn't always go that direction.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
It's very much one of those things you got nobody
to blame but yourself, right, Yes, like at the end
of the day, like you got nobody it's you know,
in basketball, it's a team sport, hockey, footballer's team. There
could be any number of variables into something. And golf
it was you.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
Well, well, you can always blame your caddy and your
and your golf club.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
You could, but I don't think you're really gonna get
away with that. And yes, we've seen people do both.
You're not really gonna get away with that. You're the
one that lined up, You're the one that that you know,
that struck the club. You're the one that shot the ball.
It's just one of those sports where you got nobody
to blame it yourself.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Listen, man, Uh, just kind of circling back really quickly.
I would love to see some company bring foot golf
uh to the good city.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Of the You're gonna prefer gonna purchase a professional foot
golf team because I'm not. I'm not purch the Walton
Pick Group and ownership group.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I just want to do it because it's an excellent
outdoor activities and for parents who put their kids in soccer,
it's just another just competitive thing for them to do.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's all I'm for it. I want to go try
this out.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Now.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Is there anybody place in Denver we can do this?
Like during your search way down the rabbit hole, did
you find.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
I did not find one of those places that existed here.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
So we're just.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Gonna have to just settle for top golf and just
kind of your random You and I got.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Balls off the thing a top golf now.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
But when you get.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Thrown out, well I will.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I will get thrown out because you won't get I'll
get thrown out in band.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I'll have my picture up there on the front. Do
not let this guy in you.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Know what that would happen, because we already established you
are the job morant of the radio air run.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Not the job morant. I I hate you for that
because there's no response, there's no republe to it. Filled
in four Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, those guys be back
next week. A lot of a lot of sports action tonight.
Obviously you're gonna have the Colorado Rockies right here on KOWA.
Coverage begins, Uh over an hour here, seven o'clock Corgan,
(31:00):
Jery Shimble on the call.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That will be uh, a lot of fun. We got the.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Nuggets playing tonight against the Memphis Grizzlies, and Jamal Murray
will be a go per interim coach Adelman as of Uh, yeah,
Jamal Murray will be a go tonight for the Denver Nuggets.
So interesting to see how much he gets worked into
the rotation on that.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Oh, that's gonna be really tricky because we definitely know
that Jalen Pickett has been a fan favorite.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
So Russe's minutes, Yeah, I think a lot of trouble here.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
We may see uh Russ's minutes uh reduce a lot
in this game.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, Yeah, that'll be uh, that'll be right bender for
sure to see obviously Grizzlies here at the Nuggets. There
is a scenario which there could be a five way tie.
By the way, if the Nuggets lose this one and
then beat the Rockets and there's a few other conditions.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Today, the Grizzlies gotta win out.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
There could be a five way tie that would have
to be split in terms of the playoffs, and that
would be that would be fascinating.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
And I think the Nuggets only hold the time breaker
over like two of those, right, they don't have any
be like six or seven.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
Right, so that could be, uh, that could be the
Nuggets need to win out. Let's just put it that way.
And as a matter of fact, that is our thing
for show me the Money tonight, Show me the Money.
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Speaker 1 (32:19):
Tonight's game grants numbers, We've.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Got Grizzlies at Nuggets, Nuggets minus six and a half.
You over under it two forty four and a half
and I uh, I crapt the bed last night. I
went over two after having a perk week weeks and
it destroyed it. Man, I'm sitting here, I just watching,
and I knew the under was coaching the first half.
I was like, oh my goodness, Okay, but I thought
at least the Grizzlies would be able to hold up
(32:41):
their end.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
If they could not. So do we have David Ryan's picks?
Speaker 3 (32:45):
Well, first off, I got to give all you guys
some credit.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Great week for all of you.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You're at six and two, Ryan, Dave, and Nick all
at five and three. Ryan tonight taking the Nuggets and
the under the under, and Dave being a hometown hater,
going with the and the over the over Alright, Nick man.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
This one was really tough for me because I didn't
know how the direction to really go and how the
Nuggets are gonna respond.
Speaker 1 (33:11):
But you know what, I'll take the Nuggets in over
the over. Interesting. I believe that the Nuggets will win
this game. But but like what pregnant pause there.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I'm gonna take the Grizzlies plus six and a half
because I think they'll cover.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
And I'm gonna take the over of two forty four
and a half after I was an idiot last night
taking the under. Is this because you and John Moran
are so similar. Obviously it's me and Josh. He's looking
out for his boy.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Fix thieves guys had in the shotgun Willies after the game.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
I mean, look, I don't like to tell people where
I'm going to be ahead of time, but yes.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
I think it's important to put money back into the
local economy.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's uh, you know, it's me. It's just being ultruistic. Well,
it is when people chase their dreams, that's what that's
what I do. Yeah, yeah, it's right.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
That's what I feel good Friday the future doctors and
lawyers of America by putting money in their pockets and
getting them through med school and law school.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Been taking feel Good Friday to a whole new meeting
for meaning.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
That's yeah, way better than grinding out Saturday.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Totally totally different thing there as well. Appreciate you guys
being along for the ride.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
We got a one hour of Broncos Country tonight coming
up next, and then of course the Colorado Rockies baseball
coverage starts here at seven o'clock here on Koway.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
You want to stay tuned for that. We got to
hit a break, we come back. It's Broncos Country Night
Here Okay, twenty
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