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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
We got Game five of the Abs. Tonight, Rockies in action.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
They're hosting the Braves Ryan Felder on the Mount, so
hopefully Rockies can find a way to bounce back. They've
on a bit of a slide. We've been obviously talking
a lot about the NFL Draft over the last couple
of hours and some of the storylines coming out of it.
I want to get to some Brandon Bean sound here,
who will went off on some radio hosts today and
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there's sort of a tie in there to the Broncos.
But again, if you want to interact with the program,
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health text line. So you know, you know, let's get
to the Brandon Bean stuff. I think that that was
pretty pretty funny. So we had a chance, of course,
being on the Broncos station here, we got to interview
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George Payton after the draft, and we can bring that
interview to you guys in a little bit. It's on
demand right now kwcolorad dot com. It's cool deal. So
same thing out there in Buffalo. Their station had the
GM on the Monday after and uh, I don't know.
I always wonder before I play the sound they go,
I do wonder if more gms and more coaches would
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love the opportunity to go off on Yahoo's like me.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yah, who's like any radio host, no doubt, no doubt,
because they listen to these takes I've been lovingly Unfortunately Yahoo,
So who so who?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I got called in the boss's office about what the
hell you had said earlier? So maybe the Yahoo thing
does supply, But what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And Bean ripping into some radio hosts this morning on
his call in so out in Buffalo, the gem of
the Bills. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you saw this,
but he went absolutely off on this guy's he was
waiting on hold.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's awesome, it is amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, you know what sometimes when guys wait on hold
when they think they're supposed to go on the air
and then they never come to them, they get the
red ass.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Is that what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Can they just disappear for the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Okay, but there's the reference there it no, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Do we have the bean?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
This is awesome, man, I have heard this is amazing, priceless.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So yeah, so he was waiting on hold. They're ripping
into him and the Bills not drafting any wide receivers
in the wide receiver room being weak, and actually it
ties kind of into the Broncos a little bit. But
here's what his response was.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I was just less than the.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Last few minutes to your show before I came home,
waiting on here. I was like twenty eighteen all over.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
With you guys. Oh we're very well, how so well?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You guys were bitching in twenty eighteen about Josh. You
guys wanted Josh Rosen, and now you guys are bitching
that we don't have a receiver. I don't get it,
Like we just sco hold on, let me talk. We
just scored thirty points in a row for eight straight
games a year ago. I get you guys asking why
we didn't have receivers, but I don't understand it. Now.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You just saw us.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Lead the league in points. When you add all the postseason,
no one scored more points than the Buffalo Bills, including
the Super Bowl champions. So you just saw us do
it without Stefan Diggs saying group, How is this group
not better than last year's group? Like, I don't like.
Our job is to score points and win games. Where
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do we need to get better defense? We did that,
So I get it. You got to have a show
and you gotta we got to have something to bitch about.
But bitching about wide receiver is one of the dumbest
arguments I've heard.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, so, actually they did draft one wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Love it, Kayden Frazer in the seventh round, with a
twenty fourth pick of the seventh round.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Cayden Praise out of Maryland. Yeah, I heard.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I heard that response from him.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I mean, you can imagine if he's the GM of
the team and he's on hold and he's here he's here.
The two hosts bitch about not taking a wide receiver,
which basically their I mean their job is to look
at what they think the team needs and then state
their case. His job is, as he said, trying to
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put the best possible team together.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He got Brandon Bean got killed.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Before the start of the year about the wide receiver room,
like you let Okay, I guess we can sort of
understand Stefan Diggs. You let him go, but you didn't
do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Who do you?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean Mac Collins, I mean you didn't do anything
to help Josh Allen. Brandon Bean's response was, Okay, how
did that work out? We played basically in the AFC
well in play bas they played in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I think both things can be true.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I was surprised they didn't take a wide receiver, but
you got to you gotta give him credit as a
GM they put together that roster certainly worked this year offensively.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, and even last year they drafted a kid out
of Florida State, Kean Coleman.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, so it's it's because you don't hear Oh,
this is the bona fide number one and I think
that's just the problem. Like we're winning games. Josh Allen
is taking care of the football.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Not only is he taking care of the football, he's
getting everybody active in the offense. He's not keying in
and locking into a specific guy.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Seinfeld, I mean, I mean, right, I mean the cake
smart dude.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Right, you mean, so he's getting it done. But you
look at some of these guys and it's like, oh,
because you don't have that bonafide. Hey, this is our guy.
He's gonna go get us a thousand plus yards each
and every year. Yeah, And if I'm Brandon, I'm I'm
responding to that exact same way.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So were these guys, I wondered, because he brought it up.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Were they the same guys really that in eighteen wanted
Josh Rosen instead of Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Maybe it could be.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, I'm assuming this was called a call in
to that station that airs the game, So it might
be the same guys.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But I mean again, but that's two. He's right. Obviously,
he's right.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
They added Josh Palmer, by the way, in a free
agency for whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
From the Charger Chargers, so they did add to the room.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But that's probably not the splashy move that some radio
hosts and media and fans were looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Did Jeff Palmer play Tennessee right, No charger, I'll look
it up. No college college? Oh good question. You know
that he might have might have let me look up
follow part of that organization buffalo bills he did?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
He did Tennessee. Okay, good call. That's why I remembered him.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Nobody better ever tell me about listening to the outside noise,
because clearly here's in the front office, we listen to
the outside noise. And what reporters got to say after
that one? So I just beterping a g.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm back and forth with that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, but it goes to show you that it doesn't
matter how much you try to close it away in
a you know what, this world that we got and
let's go try to win a super Bowl with the
people in this room. Guys are paying attention to what
people are saying. Sure about your organization.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
They always do.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But you know, this is almost details perfectly to the
Broncos because a lot of Broncos fans coming off of
this draft had the same complaint. The Broncos didn't have
the wide receiver room effectively enough. They didn't really add
to the running back room effectively enough because you could
have had Trevon Anderson or mari and Hampton there at
the draft. So it's kind of the same vein of things.
And of course Josh Allen a much more established quarterback,
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but Broncos fans are excited about Bonix. The conversation continues
to always be are you doing enough as a GM
to surround your young quarterback with talent?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And that's that's what this is in the vein. So again,
you'll have some people and I think a healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Level of skepticism is a good thing. But on the
other side of it, certain.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But here's what I think front offices, head coaches and
gms in particular in the NFL gets a red ass
about when they hear people in the media like us
that talk about in with absolute certainty that this player
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is better than the player they drafted. Now, the reality
of it is those people in the media it may
turn out that they're right, but I can tell you
just in talking to guys in the front office over
the years, they just are incredulous that, as you said,
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some Yahoo that looks that watches college football, and then
I mean, maybe he does his homework, maybe he doesn't.
There's some that do, there's some that don't want to
tell them that this back is a better fit for
their team than that back. It just irritates the dog
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doodo out of them.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Just but at the end of the day, you never
know what a players would be. Yeah, like you're hoping
every single one of these players. You hope that they're
able to come to this level. First of all, just offensively,
the playbook it's five times the size of something that
you've ever seen in college for offensive players, right, and
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then defensively, an inside linebacker at the college level, and
what you ask that person to do for the course
of a whole game, and now you come to the pros.
I've seen guys tap out immediately at that position because
do you want to have to come downhill and go
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against three hundred and thirty pound person that's pulling and
trying to rip your face off. No, I'm gonna make
you concede. I will make you tap out in that
situation any day of the week. And that was my
mindset as an offensive lineman. So every one of these
guys that you look at you're hoping that their skills
can transition to the national football level, and you really
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don't know until they put on the pads and you
see them do it day in day out, and when
their bodies beat up. Because it gets beat up a
lot faster in the National Football League than it does
in college. How do you go now when everything in
your mind, your body's telling you to give up and quit.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I just think that to your point earlier, Dave, when
it comes to questioning the results of what a team
is doing, whether it's free agency or the draft, there
has to be there has to be an understanding of
it's really not your money and legacy on the line.
We joke about that, like, oh, we could spend their
money and we'll give our opinion on something. But there's
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this sense sometimes with the fan base, and I think
it's because of having all the mock draft engines and
having all the accessiblity to film, if you will quote
unquote film. I think there's a sense of I know
better than my team knows better. Sure as I and
you guys are sort of careful with that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
But how many guys do you hear the do I mean, seriously,
the talking definitive terms about we're talking about football. They
talk about in definitive terms about a specific player or
a specific concept.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Or a coach all the time, all.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
The time in the game of football. I don't think
I don't think you can talk about it retrospectively. You
can talk about it because you know the answer. Right
Like last year, we thought leading into that game in
the Super Bowl that the Eagles, if they were going
to win, it was gonna be that front four. Well
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turned out exactly that. But but in the draft is
an unproven science. There are so many variables in the
draft much more of an art. Now, yes, there is
an art to it, for sure, but there's there's also
a little bit of maybe a little bit more than
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a little bit of luck.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The player stays healthy.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yes, the guy that we were going to take, somebody
else took, he doesn't stay healthy. So it makes it
look like five years down the road that we were
smarter we got that player. We could have had the
other players. No, I mean maybe, but the other player
got hurt, you know. So there's just all sorts of
things that play into it. I I just I never
I never want to talk about the draft where players
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in definitive terms, because I just I don't believe those
terms actually exist.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I look at an NFL team like I look at gumbo.
You know, you got to get you have all these
different ingredients. You got to get the rule right and
everything right, and and once you are able to get
a great process us right. So you know, my ruse,
my quarterback right, and then then I start looking at
my other pieces of the puzzle. A big part of late,
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I know, because you take take them out right. You know,
I don't want anybody exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I don't want that, don't want that exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I had the Heimlich done otherwise I literally may die
in the New Orleans airport, so justin from Oh so
you got in the restaurant over there.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't get which.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Which ruins or mindset it does because it's looks like
do I want to try a gumbo again? You know,
just in the airport and probably not right. But that's
what football is. It's there's so many different variables to it. Right,
you have a good gumbo, There's a lot of season
and a lot of different ingredients that go into that thing.
When I look at football, the biggest thing that people
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don't talk about enough is coaching, because that's because there's
thirty two of these jobs in the world. Doesn't mean
that you necessarily have the right coach for the job.
And a coach could mess a player up drastically where
a guy now could never come back from that. So
you hope that you have the right guys in place
that are able to develop guys now. Maybe in Buffalo,
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it might be a situation where we don't want to
go that route. We don't necessarily have the right pieces.
You never know where they coaching staff is thinking. But
I've seen it time and time again where we had
Nathaniel Hackett and Butch Berry here and talking to a
couple guys that were part of the Broncos organization that
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year and just here in what coaches would say, and
guy asking Butch Berry like, hey, what did I do wrong?
Like you're mad in the Euro upset and he can't
tell him what he did wrong, or Hey, that's not
what I'm coaching.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You need to fix what you're doing. How do I
fix it?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I don't know, but I know that that's not what
I'm teaching you, Like that's absurd to me. Once you
get to the National Post band, that's bad coaching. So
you gotta have all those ingredients in order to make
it work and truly have a shot and try to
go win a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Somebody's got to win this game. Oh, coach live forever?
Are the bay leaves? The punter drafting a punt? Nor?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I actually like that, I actually like that that pick
of Jeremy Crosshaw. Hey, before we get to the break here,
we were tired about during one of the breaks earlier,
the Bill Belichick interview on CBS whole.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Boy, Classic, Oh Boy, Classic, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So the thing that's making the biggest head there was
a lot of sort of interesting because he was asked
about leaving the owner of the Patriots out of his
memoir and all those kinds of things, and that he
was evasive, as you can imagine because he's Bill Belichick.
But this one where because his girlfriend is in the room.
So Jordan Hudson is in the room, but.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's a one on one interview with Bill Belichick, the
coach of North Carolina, and the correspondent I can't think
of his name.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, but she's sitting there monitoring camera, listening, and.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So you have to be because she like monitors and
social runs the social media now and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I have to. But you mean Bill Belichick doesn't run
his own social media. I mean do you run yours day?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yes, a couple more years, another decade, maybe give it up.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Two words, Dave, plausible deniability. Eventually you just say no,
that wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You know what if I fire off something that's me,
I'm there for it. You're there for it right, easy
to find.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So very quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
This was a little bit of the interaction as he's
being asked about his relationship with Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and
respect when you were let go by Robert Kraft?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah? What was a mutual decision for that?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Would for us the part ways he said fired, it
was initial decision.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
The other change for Belichick is twenty four year old
Jordan Hudson, his creative mus As he writes in his book,
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You have Jordan right over there.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got
nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Never been too worried about what everybody else thanks, just
to try to do what I feel like is that's
for me and what's right? How did you guys meet
not talking about this? No, no, it's a topic.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
Neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Good Lord, I mean, I mean, oh, when I saw that,
I'm like, really, I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He could even answer it.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He can he can conduct I mean, he's he can
conduct his life anyway he wants to write. And again,
one of the greatest, if not the greatest head coaches
of all time in the league. And if he's not
on your list in terms of number one, if it's
a realistic and reasonable list, he certainly would be in
the top three on everybody's list. And if he's not, well,
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then you have some sort of predisposition not to like him,
which you know plenty of people would fall into that category.
But if he's doing an interview, and that I thought
was a legit question. It wasn't an overly salacious question,
I mean, and he could have answered it, and she
could have let him answer it. He's smart enough to
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answer it in a way that I think would have
sort of shut the thing down if that would have
been his desire. But for her to cut everything off
and say we're not talking about that, to me, I
think is just.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
A unbelievably bad look for that.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, as a couple, as they, you know, when you
go outside, you represent each other, right, And I just
think that Bill Belichick has been around a camera, around
a microphone, has been asked so many questions his whole
entire life that he was very much ready to answer
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that question. Maybe, And you got to know that if
you're in that relationship that that's going to come up
at setain points. So why not get a little bit
of coaching find it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So the question I have for you, Dave, why why
does she not want Belichick to answer that question?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, she might not want that particular part of his
story to be out there. I mean, I don't I
don't have any very pa, I don't have any idea
that's a very pg answer that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Answer. From his standpoint, it might be so good that
that's what he wants to go with. I think you,
d I mean, that's I mean, I can't okay, but.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Really, you're gonna let the most successful head coach in
NFL history, like you're gonna let it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I guess their age is immaterial to some.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
It isn't you're gonna let a twenty four year old
girlfriends say, we're not talking about that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm crying.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I mean it, it it. It so emasculates him. But again,
sometimes it doesn't matter because it to some because it's
just that good.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
When things happen that puzzle me. I gotta sit there
and try to look at the other person's perspective, just.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
That good day.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But maybe maybe a little.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Bit of perspective is that if you answer that question,
maybe the interview now pivots and maybe there's a follow
up question, and then maybe we can to go down
that route a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I had a teammate, an NFL teammate that for a game,
not a practice, not a practice, a game, did not
show up. We're out warming up an NFL game. This play,
this play. There's some guys listening. If they're listening, they
know exactly who this is. He doesn't show up. I
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mean he gets there about thirty five minutes before kick.
The head coach walks up to him and says, calls
him out by name, like, what in the blanker are
you doing? His response was called the coach by his
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first name and said, sometimes it's just too good to
get up from.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That is a true story.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So that therefore my conclusion on Bill Belichick, I have
a predisposition, the thinking that that's possible.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's possible and highly likely we had Rockies Baseball come
out of here at the top of the hours.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I want to give a couple of these text finally,
a lot of reaction to our conversation moments ago about
Mill Belichick. Yeah, we met on a site where I
was offering Yeah, yeah, I don't hate of those.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You're not going to be able to read some of these.
Some of these would make me blush for sure. You're
already turning red over there.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I'm just reading them.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Things standing in the sun for a long time, this
one earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I get what you're saying, Dave, but I disagree in
the sense that we can be we can be objectively
look at the offense and say they are not doing
enough to surround Bonix with talent.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Oh, I think that's I think that's absolutely fair. I mean,
I think that that sort of analysis I think is
fair for sure, based on what Bronco fans see. You know,
they watch games and they say like, hey, wait a minute,
we need this guy needs more help. I think that's fair.
I think we're teams generally. Again, chaff a bit is
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when a specific player that maybe we see a lot
on national TV, and maybe you know, our favorite college
football announcer raves about this running back, and then that
running back in a position that your favorite team needs
help becomes available in the draft, and then your favorite
team winds up taking another running back that you know
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very little about, and then all of a sudden you
think like, well, what the hell, why would you not
take that running back that I know my favorite announcer
on TV likes? And then the highlights he looks like
a really good player. That's that's the kind of analysis.
I think the teams get a tabit pissed about.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Think r J or Harvey also becomes Sean Payton guy, right,
and a like, not only a Sean Payton guy, a
George Payton got so then now they could agree on
that position, right, and he's a want you want your
guy to succeed, right, you want your guy to have success. Sure,
I believe the Broncos helped out Bo Nags. Evan Ingram's
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a huge grab. The fact that they were able to
resign Garrett Bowles and not be looking for a left
tackle that is huge with the quarterback having as blindside
protected the offensive line coming back. I think the big
thing that people are and I think that this just
becomes more and more like duh, this is the obvious thing. Guys.
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As we go along, they are banking on Veley. They
are not only banking and they're saying that this kid
could be a star, like this year, right because I.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Had to glance over and make sure that your redness
did not reappear.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But you look at Courtland Sutton, right, we got one
more year on that contract, and for them to not
sit there and go, hey, let's go up and get
it at twenty. Overall, I think a lot. You got
to read between the lines a little bit, especially at
this time of year, and I think that this that
the pat guy, Pat Bryant, yeah, brings like little Jordan Humphreys,
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Like great job the last couple of years, but see
you later, right, Like now we got our physical wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
We got we got our guy that could bring some physicality.
Somebody was telling me little Jordan Huphrey was going to
make the team as a tight end.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Somebody can't even imagine. I can't remember. Well, no, that
that person, first of all, very very smart, but I
mean absolutely smart. But that person was saying that he
was trying to trying to make the team as a
tied end. That he was.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He was telling the team that this is and he's
going to try to do the same thing with the Giants.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Good luck. We'll see in the ground, we'll see the works.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Going on a trade block with the big offensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
But to your point, to your point, and we actually
been asked this question to George about was this draft
sort of an indication of how they felt about the
previous draft?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Right, dvon Bailey.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
We talked about Adrick Estimate, Right, I mean r J.
Harvey fits as a nice compliment to a power back
like Adrick Estimate.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
You and I talked about during the draft the kid
from Iowa running back cal Johnson. And I think Caleb
john he's he's hard to tackle, good athlete, powerful, big,
But if the Broncos take him, they pretty much signal
that the Oudric Estimate thing is over. Absolutely, I don't
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my take on that was That's why I thought they
wouldn't take Caleb Johnson. I think they're not. They're not
completely sold that Odrick Estimate could be a guy, but
they're not. They're not completely sold. They can't. So they
have some more questions, which means another training camp and
now you take you know, you take a smaller back
than Caleb Johnson, but a home run hitter, and then
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now you have Audric Estimate still there to me. To me,
it's a value pick that makes sense if you have
the Broncos running back room as it currently exists.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That's exactly right. So here's what George said about that
exact topic.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Some players, you know, they can play right away. Some
it takes a year, some it takes two. And we
feel like some of our second third year guys will
to start hitting their prime, much like Riley Moss, much
like Nick Bonito did, and so you know, we look
for that push, and these coaches do a great job
at developing players, and so does our sports performance side,
so we feel good.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So in a lot of ways, it is sort of
a added to the previous year's draft, and I think
for Broncos fans, we get so used to and I say,
with NFL fans, you get so used to your team. Ay,
after one year, maybe you get to too. Let's look
to replace that guy. We can, we can upgrade that
position and replace that guy. But that's just not how
they're doing it down there. And so but for better
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or worse, it may work, it may not. That's just
that's just how they viewed this draft.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, I think they what he said there was they
liked last year's class.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And we're not ready to completely wash our hands of everybody.
And if you take Caleb Johnson, he didn't say this,
but now I'm deducing if you take Caleb Johnson, Caleb
Johnson and Odric Estimate are two big young backs. You know,
maybe Johnson's got a little more juice. I think they
haven't yet given up on Idric Estimate at.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Least that's what the feeling is with R. J. Harvey
now again.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And they add to the running back room, which I
think a VET might make some sense in that room
because you've got a lot of youth. Like as we said,
you're today with a Javonte Williams here. You're kind of
looking at a lot of second and third year backs
and then now r J.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Harvey. It's not to say that RJ.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Harvey couldn't be very good for you, even in an
expanded role. It's just as a wear and tear to
his body that you probably don't want to put him
through his rookie year.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
But also now it gives you the luxury of waiting
right and seeing how some things play out. The robs
are not in no rush to go get that veteran guy.
Where now you get these guys into rookie minicamp, you
start getting them together, teaching them to playbook, and you know,
does Orodric just may take another couple steps forward specific
perfectly in protecting Bonnicks. Yeah, I think he can. I
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mean I I think he's got I mean, he showed enough.
Wasn't perfect, but he showed enough where it's like, hmm,
now a full year into this, you understand the system,
you understand what's called for.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Uh, you're gonna be at the temple of Place.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yes, I think he could be a viable back in
this offense.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
What uh moments Saturday Nights Abs are back in action
Tonight against the Stars series all tied up at two
a piece, but Gabe Landiskog Dave.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Pretty awesome. That was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That was just what a what an incredible moment. And
you know, we get we're kind of spoiled here in Denver.
We've had so many really good moments the last year.
I mean, bo Nick's ascending to what he did, and
the Broncos getting into the playoffs, the Nuggets just when
you sort of, in my opinion, sort of counting them out,
they go and they win that game on Saturday Night,
and then Gabe Laniskog, who has been off the ice
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for three years, to score that goal and it was
a route. I mean, it wasn't like the game winner,
but it was still so cool and to do it
in front of the home fans. I thought that was
a special moment.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, it's and we've talked about that a lot on
the show. He's it's very very seldom that in professional sports.
Two things happen. One, a team is going to give
you that much time three years in essence and be
patient and hope you come back in two. You've got
an athlete that is that dedicated and knows there's gonna
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be some dark days in his recovery and gonna be
some days when you wake up and you're like, man,
oh man, I don't feel I feel worse than I
did the day before. For him to have that perseverance
and resiliency and just mental and physical toughness, and then
we're not talking about he's able to come back and
skate with his kids, and we're talking about he's able
to come back and skate at an elite level and
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play once again in the NHL. And oh, by the way,
the cherry on the top is they're in the playoffs
and he scored a playoff goal. I mean it's like,
I mean, it's it's honestly like a Hollywood script.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
And to hold the respect of a locker room, you know,
that's the added piece that I don't think it's talked
about enough. You know, the character of Landy to be
what he has always been in that locker room. You
get him, you just say hey, Polly stays, we're good.
You know, you could go to Saint Louis and then
Landy takes over this hockey team and for him to
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just be on the bench and trying to get back
every single day things not working out the way that
you plan it. But to hold the respect of that
locker room with some absolute studs right and Game three,
I love it giving him a nod. I thought he
was exceptional with his crosscheck and his poke check. I
thought it was really good. Yeah, he brought some physicality,
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some much needed physicality.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
He planted, Uh what was it? Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Who? Who?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Who?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Do you randon?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
He planted randon into the ice.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
But you know, you see that, and we talk about
Gabe and how great he's been in the two games
that he's been back. It's just been unbelievable. Individual efforts
though from the AVS player like Logan O'Connor right now
is playing some of the best hockey I've ever seen.
You look at you know, Nachushkin's goal in Game three.
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Sometimes I think that that that guy holds onto the
buck a little bit too long and it bothers me,
it pisses me off. But that goal, I'm just like, Wow,
that's absolutely to swim.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Swim back in front of the net.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Scott free down to pipes right and and the move
that he puts on the on the goalie. So we're
seeing some tremendous efforts right, individual efforts right now, but
they're playing really, really good and hopefully they go get
you know, three and four really wick against this Dallas team.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Oh yeah, Rockies baseball coming up Next.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Joins the Sam's Number Three Diner and Bar, Glen and
Glendale tomorrow at three o'clock
Again a reminder.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Tomorrow we are going to be at Sam's Number three
Diner in Bar in Glendale. Come on down and say
hi to us. Opportunity for you to watch the Nuggets
playoff game. In fact, you can watch all the playoff
games there Sam's Number three Diner in Bar in Glendale.
We're gonna be there from three until six along with
Nick Ferguson, So please come say hi to us, enjoy
the fantastic food, the service, all of that, and catch
(00:22):
all the Nuggets and Avs games on the playoffs starting
tomorrow night with the Nuggets in Game five.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
We got Game five of the Abs. Tonight, Rockies in action.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
They're hosting the Braves Ryan Felder on the Mount, so
hopefully Rockies can find a way to bounce back. They've
on a bit of a slide. We've been obviously talking
a lot about the NFL Draft over the last couple
of hours and some of the storylines coming out of it.
I want to get to some Brandon Bean sound here,
who will went off on some radio hosts today and
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there's sort of a tie in there to the Broncos.
But again, if you want to interact with the program,
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health text line. So you know, you know, let's get
to the Brandon Bean stuff. I think that that was
pretty pretty funny. So we had a chance, of course,
being on the Broncos station here, we got to interview
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George Payton after the draft, and we can bring that
interview to you guys in a little bit. It's on
demand right now kwcolorad dot com. It's cool deal. So
same thing out there in Buffalo. Their station had the
GM on the Monday after and uh, I don't know.
I always wonder before I play the sound they go,
I do wonder if more gms and more coaches would
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love the opportunity to go off on Yahoo's like me.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yah, who's like any radio host, no doubt, no doubt,
because they listen to these takes I've been lovingly Unfortunately Yahoo,
So who so who?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I got called in the boss's office about what the
hell you had said earlier? So maybe the Yahoo thing
does supply, But what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
And Bean ripping into some radio hosts this morning on
his call in so out in Buffalo, the gem of
the Bills. Yeah, yeah, I don't know if you saw this,
but he went absolutely off on this guy's he was
waiting on hold.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's awesome, it is amazing.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
Well, you know what sometimes when guys wait on hold
when they think they're supposed to go on the air
and then they never come to them, they get the
red ass.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Is that what happened?
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Can they just disappear for the rest of the day.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Okay, but there's the reference there it no, okay, no.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Do we have the bean?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
This is awesome, man, I have heard this is amazing, priceless.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
So yeah, so he was waiting on hold. They're ripping
into him and the Bills not drafting any wide receivers
in the wide receiver room being weak, and actually it
ties kind of into the Broncos a little bit. But
here's what his response was.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
I was just less than the.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Last few minutes to your show before I came home,
waiting on here. I was like twenty eighteen all over.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
With you guys. Oh we're very well, how so well?
Speaker 5 (02:57):
You guys were bitching in twenty eighteen about Josh. You
guys wanted Josh Rosen, and now you guys are bitching
that we don't have a receiver. I don't get it,
Like we just sco hold on, let me talk. We
just scored thirty points in a row for eight straight
games a year ago. I get you guys asking why
we didn't have receivers, but I don't understand it. Now.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
You just saw us.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Lead the league in points. When you add all the postseason,
no one scored more points than the Buffalo Bills, including
the Super Bowl champions. So you just saw us do
it without Stefan Diggs saying group, How is this group
not better than last year's group? Like, I don't like.
Our job is to score points and win games. Where
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do we need to get better defense? We did that,
So I get it. You got to have a show
and you gotta we got to have something to bitch about.
But bitching about wide receiver is one of the dumbest
arguments I've heard.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Okay, so, actually they did draft one wide receiver.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Love it, Kayden Frazer in the seventh round, with a
twenty fourth pick of the seventh round.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Cayden Praise out of Maryland. Yeah, I heard.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I heard that response from him.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I mean, you can imagine if he's the GM of
the team and he's on hold and he's here he's here.
The two hosts bitch about not taking a wide receiver,
which basically their I mean their job is to look
at what they think the team needs and then state
their case. His job is, as he said, trying to
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put the best possible team together.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
He got Brandon Bean got killed.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Before the start of the year about the wide receiver room,
like you let Okay, I guess we can sort of
understand Stefan Diggs. You let him go, but you didn't
do anything about it.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Who do you?
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I mean Mac Collins, I mean you didn't do anything
to help Josh Allen. Brandon Bean's response was, Okay, how
did that work out? We played basically in the AFC
well in play bas they played in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I think both things can be true.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
I was surprised they didn't take a wide receiver, but
you got to you gotta give him credit as a
GM they put together that roster certainly worked this year offensively.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, and even last year they drafted a kid out
of Florida State, Kean Coleman.
Speaker 6 (05:19):
Right.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
I mean, so it's it's because you don't hear Oh,
this is the bona fide number one and I think
that's just the problem. Like we're winning games. Josh Allen
is taking care of the football.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Not only is he taking care of the football, he's
getting everybody active in the offense. He's not keying in
and locking into a specific guy.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Seinfeld, I mean, I mean, right, I mean the cake
smart dude.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
Right, you mean, so he's getting it done. But you
look at some of these guys and it's like, oh,
because you don't have that bonafide. Hey, this is our guy.
He's gonna go get us a thousand plus yards each
and every year. Yeah, And if I'm Brandon, I'm I'm
responding to that exact same way.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So were these guys, I wondered, because he brought it up.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Were they the same guys really that in eighteen wanted
Josh Rosen instead of Josh Allen.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Maybe it could be.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, I'm assuming this was called a call in
to that station that airs the game, So it might
be the same guys.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
But I mean again, but that's two. He's right. Obviously,
he's right.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
They added Josh Palmer, by the way, in a free
agency for whatever.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
From the Charger Chargers, so they did add to the room.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
But that's probably not the splashy move that some radio
hosts and media and fans were looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Did Jeff Palmer play Tennessee right, No charger, I'll look
it up. No college college? Oh good question. You know
that he might have might have let me look up
follow part of that organization buffalo bills he did?
Speaker 3 (06:50):
He did Tennessee. Okay, good call. That's why I remembered him.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Nobody better ever tell me about listening to the outside noise,
because clearly here's in the front office, we listen to
the outside noise. And what reporters got to say after
that one? So I just beterping a g.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I'm back and forth with that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Yeah, but it goes to show you that it doesn't
matter how much you try to close it away in
a you know what, this world that we got and
let's go try to win a super Bowl with the
people in this room. Guys are paying attention to what
people are saying. Sure about your organization.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
They always do.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
But you know, this is almost details perfectly to the
Broncos because a lot of Broncos fans coming off of
this draft had the same complaint. The Broncos didn't have
the wide receiver room effectively enough. They didn't really add
to the running back room effectively enough because you could
have had Trevon Anderson or mari and Hampton there at
the draft. So it's kind of the same vein of things.
And of course Josh Allen a much more established quarterback,
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but Broncos fans are excited about Bonix. The conversation continues
to always be are you doing enough as a GM
to surround your young quarterback with talent?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
And that's that's what this is in the vein. So again,
you'll have some people and I think a healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Level of skepticism is a good thing. But on the
other side of it, certain.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But here's what I think front offices, head coaches and
gms in particular in the NFL gets a red ass
about when they hear people in the media like us
that talk about in with absolute certainty that this player
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is better than the player they drafted. Now, the reality
of it is those people in the media it may
turn out that they're right, but I can tell you
just in talking to guys in the front office over
the years, they just are incredulous that, as you said,
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some Yahoo that looks that watches college football, and then
I mean, maybe he does his homework, maybe he doesn't.
There's some that do, there's some that don't want to
tell them that this back is a better fit for
their team than that back. It just irritates the dog
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doodo out of them.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Just but at the end of the day, you never
know what a players would be. Yeah, like you're hoping
every single one of these players. You hope that they're
able to come to this level. First of all, just offensively,
the playbook it's five times the size of something that
you've ever seen in college for offensive players, right, and
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then defensively, an inside linebacker at the college level, and
what you ask that person to do for the course
of a whole game, and now you come to the pros.
I've seen guys tap out immediately at that position because
do you want to have to come downhill and go
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against three hundred and thirty pound person that's pulling and
trying to rip your face off. No, I'm gonna make
you concede. I will make you tap out in that
situation any day of the week. And that was my
mindset as an offensive lineman. So every one of these
guys that you look at you're hoping that their skills
can transition to the national football level, and you really
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don't know until they put on the pads and you
see them do it day in day out, and when
their bodies beat up. Because it gets beat up a
lot faster in the National Football League than it does
in college. How do you go now when everything in
your mind, your body's telling you to give up and quit.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I just think that to your point earlier, Dave, when
it comes to questioning the results of what a team
is doing, whether it's free agency or the draft, there
has to be there has to be an understanding of
it's really not your money and legacy on the line.
We joke about that, like, oh, we could spend their
money and we'll give our opinion on something. But there's
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this sense sometimes with the fan base, and I think
it's because of having all the mock draft engines and
having all the accessiblity to film, if you will quote
unquote film. I think there's a sense of I know
better than my team knows better. Sure as I and
you guys are sort of careful with that.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
But how many guys do you hear the do I mean, seriously,
the talking definitive terms about we're talking about football. They
talk about in definitive terms about a specific player or
a specific concept.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Or a coach all the time, all.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
The time in the game of football. I don't think
I don't think you can talk about it retrospectively. You
can talk about it because you know the answer. Right
Like last year, we thought leading into that game in
the Super Bowl that the Eagles, if they were going
to win, it was gonna be that front four. Well
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turned out exactly that. But but in the draft is
an unproven science. There are so many variables in the
draft much more of an art. Now, yes, there is
an art to it, for sure, but there's there's also
a little bit of maybe a little bit more than
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a little bit of luck.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
The player stays healthy.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yes, the guy that we were going to take, somebody
else took, he doesn't stay healthy. So it makes it
look like five years down the road that we were
smarter we got that player. We could have had the
other players. No, I mean maybe, but the other player
got hurt, you know. So there's just all sorts of
things that play into it. I I just I never
I never want to talk about the draft where players
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in definitive terms, because I just I don't believe those
terms actually exist.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I look at an NFL team like I look at gumbo.
You know, you got to get you have all these
different ingredients. You got to get the rule right and
everything right, and and once you are able to get
a great process us right. So you know, my ruse,
my quarterback right, and then then I start looking at
my other pieces of the puzzle. A big part of late,
(13:11):
I know, because you take take them out right. You know,
I don't want anybody exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
I don't want that, don't want that exactly.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
I had the Heimlich done otherwise I literally may die
in the New Orleans airport, so justin from Oh so
you got in the restaurant over there.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't get which.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Which ruins or mindset it does because it's looks like
do I want to try a gumbo again? You know,
just in the airport and probably not right. But that's
what football is. It's there's so many different variables to it. Right,
you have a good gumbo, There's a lot of season
and a lot of different ingredients that go into that thing.
When I look at football, the biggest thing that people
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don't talk about enough is coaching, because that's because there's
thirty two of these jobs in the world. Doesn't mean
that you necessarily have the right coach for the job.
And a coach could mess a player up drastically where
a guy now could never come back from that. So
you hope that you have the right guys in place
that are able to develop guys now. Maybe in Buffalo,
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it might be a situation where we don't want to
go that route. We don't necessarily have the right pieces.
You never know where they coaching staff is thinking. But
I've seen it time and time again where we had
Nathaniel Hackett and Butch Berry here and talking to a
couple guys that were part of the Broncos organization that
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year and just here in what coaches would say, and
guy asking Butch Berry like, hey, what did I do wrong?
Like you're mad in the Euro upset and he can't
tell him what he did wrong, or Hey, that's not
what I'm coaching.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
You need to fix what you're doing. How do I
fix it?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
I don't know, but I know that that's not what
I'm teaching you, Like that's absurd to me. Once you
get to the National Post band, that's bad coaching. So
you gotta have all those ingredients in order to make
it work and truly have a shot and try to
go win a super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
Somebody's got to win this game. Oh, coach live forever?
Are the bay leaves? The punter drafting a punt? Nor?
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I actually like that, I actually like that that pick
of Jeremy Crosshaw. Hey, before we get to the break here,
we were tired about during one of the breaks earlier,
the Bill Belichick interview on CBS whole.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Boy, Classic, Oh Boy, Classic, Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So the thing that's making the biggest head there was
a lot of sort of interesting because he was asked
about leaving the owner of the Patriots out of his
memoir and all those kinds of things, and that he
was evasive, as you can imagine because he's Bill Belichick.
But this one where because his girlfriend is in the room.
So Jordan Hudson is in the room, but.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
It's a one on one interview with Bill Belichick, the
coach of North Carolina, and the correspondent I can't think
of his name.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, but she's sitting there monitoring camera, listening, and.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
So you have to be because she like monitors and
social runs the social media now and stuff.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
I have to. But you mean Bill Belichick doesn't run
his own social media. I mean do you run yours day?
Speaker 7 (16:22):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yes, a couple more years, another decade, maybe give it up.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Two words, Dave, plausible deniability. Eventually you just say no,
that wasn't me.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
You know what if I fire off something that's me,
I'm there for it. You're there for it right, easy
to find.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
So very quickly.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
This was a little bit of the interaction as he's
being asked about his relationship with Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and
respect when you were let go by Robert Kraft?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Yeah? What was a mutual decision for that?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Would for us the part ways he said fired, it
was initial decision.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
The other change for Belichick is twenty four year old
Jordan Hudson, his creative mus As he writes in his book,
Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
You have Jordan right over there.
Speaker 8 (17:18):
Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship.
They've got an opinion about your private life. It's got
nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it.
How do you deal with that?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Never been too worried about what everybody else thanks, just
to try to do what I feel like is that's
for me and what's right? How did you guys meet
not talking about this? No, no, it's a topic.
Speaker 9 (17:39):
Neither one of them is comfortable commenting on.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Good Lord, I mean, I mean, oh, when I saw that,
I'm like, really, I mean.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
He could even answer it.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
He can he can conduct I mean, he's he can
conduct his life anyway he wants to write. And again,
one of the greatest, if not the greatest head coaches
of all time in the league. And if he's not
on your list in terms of number one, if it's
a realistic and reasonable list, he certainly would be in
the top three on everybody's list. And if he's not, well,
(18:21):
then you have some sort of predisposition not to like him,
which you know plenty of people would fall into that category.
But if he's doing an interview, and that I thought
was a legit question. It wasn't an overly salacious question,
I mean, and he could have answered it, and she
could have let him answer it. He's smart enough to
(18:43):
answer it in a way that I think would have
sort of shut the thing down if that would have
been his desire. But for her to cut everything off
and say we're not talking about that, to me, I
think is just.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
A unbelievably bad look for that.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Yeah, as a couple, as they, you know, when you
go outside, you represent each other, right, And I just
think that Bill Belichick has been around a camera, around
a microphone, has been asked so many questions his whole
entire life that he was very much ready to answer
(19:21):
that question. Maybe, And you got to know that if
you're in that relationship that that's going to come up
at setain points. So why not get a little bit
of coaching find it?
Speaker 2 (19:31):
So the question I have for you, Dave, why why
does she not want Belichick to answer that question?
Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well, she might not want that particular part of his
story to be out there. I mean, I don't I
don't have any very pa, I don't have any idea
that's a very pg answer that.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Answer. From his standpoint, it might be so good that
that's what he wants to go with. I think you,
d I mean, that's I mean, I can't okay, but.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Really, you're gonna let the most successful head coach in
NFL history, like you're gonna let it.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I guess their age is immaterial to some.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
It isn't you're gonna let a twenty four year old
girlfriends say, we're not talking about that.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm crying.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I mean it, it it. It so emasculates him. But again,
sometimes it doesn't matter because it to some because it's
just that good.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
When things happen that puzzle me. I gotta sit there
and try to look at the other person's perspective, just.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
That good day.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
But maybe maybe a little.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Bit of perspective is that if you answer that question,
maybe the interview now pivots and maybe there's a follow
up question, and then maybe we can to go down
that route a little bit.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
I had a teammate, an NFL teammate that for a game,
not a practice, not a practice, a game, did not
show up. We're out warming up an NFL game. This play,
this play. There's some guys listening. If they're listening, they
know exactly who this is. He doesn't show up. I
(21:24):
mean he gets there about thirty five minutes before kick.
The head coach walks up to him and says, calls
him out by name, like, what in the blanker are
you doing? His response was called the coach by his
(21:46):
first name and said, sometimes it's just too good to
get up from.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That is a true story.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So that therefore my conclusion on Bill Belichick, I have
a predisposition, the thinking that that's possible.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
That's possible and highly likely we had Rockies Baseball come
out of here at the top of the hours.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
I want to give a couple of these text finally,
a lot of reaction to our conversation moments ago about
Mill Belichick. Yeah, we met on a site where I
was offering Yeah, yeah, I don't hate of those.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
You're not going to be able to read some of these.
Some of these would make me blush for sure. You're
already turning red over there.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
I'm just reading them.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Things standing in the sun for a long time, this
one earlier.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
I get what you're saying, Dave, but I disagree in
the sense that we can be we can be objectively
look at the offense and say they are not doing
enough to surround Bonix with talent.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Oh, I think that's I think that's absolutely fair. I mean,
I think that that sort of analysis I think is
fair for sure, based on what Bronco fans see. You know,
they watch games and they say like, hey, wait a minute,
we need this guy needs more help. I think that's fair.
I think we're teams generally. Again, chaff a bit is
(23:07):
when a specific player that maybe we see a lot
on national TV, and maybe you know, our favorite college
football announcer raves about this running back, and then that
running back in a position that your favorite team needs
help becomes available in the draft, and then your favorite
team winds up taking another running back that you know
(23:30):
very little about, and then all of a sudden you
think like, well, what the hell, why would you not
take that running back that I know my favorite announcer
on TV likes? And then the highlights he looks like
a really good player. That's that's the kind of analysis.
I think the teams get a tabit pissed about.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Think r J or Harvey also becomes Sean Payton guy, right,
and a like, not only a Sean Payton guy, a
George Payton got so then now they could agree on
that position, right, and he's a want you want your
guy to succeed, right, you want your guy to have success. Sure,
I believe the Broncos helped out Bo Nags. Evan Ingram's
(24:09):
a huge grab. The fact that they were able to
resign Garrett Bowles and not be looking for a left
tackle that is huge with the quarterback having as blindside
protected the offensive line coming back. I think the big
thing that people are and I think that this just
becomes more and more like duh, this is the obvious thing. Guys.
(24:32):
As we go along, they are banking on Veley. They
are not only banking and they're saying that this kid
could be a star, like this year, right because I.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Had to glance over and make sure that your redness
did not reappear.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
But you look at Courtland Sutton, right, we got one
more year on that contract, and for them to not
sit there and go, hey, let's go up and get
it at twenty. Overall, I think a lot. You got
to read between the lines a little bit, especially at
this time of year, and I think that this that
the pat guy, Pat Bryant, yeah, brings like little Jordan Humphreys,
(25:09):
Like great job the last couple of years, but see
you later, right, Like now we got our physical wide receiver.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
We got we got our guy that could bring some physicality.
Somebody was telling me little Jordan Huphrey was going to
make the team as a tight end.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Somebody can't even imagine. I can't remember. Well, no, that
that person, first of all, very very smart, but I
mean absolutely smart. But that person was saying that he
was trying to trying to make the team as a
tied end. That he was.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
He was telling the team that this is and he's
going to try to do the same thing with the Giants.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
Good luck. We'll see in the ground, we'll see the works.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Going on a trade block with the big offensive tackle.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
But to your point, to your point, and we actually
been asked this question to George about was this draft
sort of an indication of how they felt about the
previous draft?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Right, dvon Bailey.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
We talked about Adrick Estimate, Right, I mean r J.
Harvey fits as a nice compliment to a power back
like Adrick Estimate.
Speaker 3 (26:06):
You and I talked about during the draft the kid
from Iowa running back cal Johnson. And I think Caleb
john he's he's hard to tackle, good athlete, powerful, big,
But if the Broncos take him, they pretty much signal
that the Oudric Estimate thing is over. Absolutely, I don't
(26:30):
my take on that was That's why I thought they
wouldn't take Caleb Johnson. I think they're not. They're not
completely sold that Odrick Estimate could be a guy, but
they're not. They're not completely sold. They can't. So they
have some more questions, which means another training camp and
now you take you know, you take a smaller back
than Caleb Johnson, but a home run hitter, and then
(26:54):
now you have Audric Estimate still there to me. To me,
it's a value pick that makes sense if you have
the Broncos running back room as it currently exists.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
That's exactly right. So here's what George said about that
exact topic.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Some players, you know, they can play right away. Some
it takes a year, some it takes two. And we
feel like some of our second third year guys will
to start hitting their prime, much like Riley Moss, much
like Nick Bonito did, and so you know, we look
for that push, and these coaches do a great job
at developing players, and so does our sports performance side,
so we feel good.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So in a lot of ways, it is sort of
a added to the previous year's draft, and I think
for Broncos fans, we get so used to and I say,
with NFL fans, you get so used to your team. Ay,
after one year, maybe you get to too. Let's look
to replace that guy. We can, we can upgrade that
position and replace that guy. But that's just not how
they're doing it down there. And so but for better
(27:45):
or worse, it may work, it may not. That's just
that's just how they viewed this draft.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Well, I think they what he said there was they
liked last year's class.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
And we're not ready to completely wash our hands of everybody.
And if you take Caleb Johnson, he didn't say this,
but now I'm deducing if you take Caleb Johnson, Caleb
Johnson and Odric Estimate are two big young backs. You know,
maybe Johnson's got a little more juice. I think they
haven't yet given up on Idric Estimate at.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Least that's what the feeling is with R. J. Harvey
now again.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
And they add to the running back room, which I
think a VET might make some sense in that room
because you've got a lot of youth. Like as we said,
you're today with a Javonte Williams here. You're kind of
looking at a lot of second and third year backs
and then now r J.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
Harvey. It's not to say that RJ.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Harvey couldn't be very good for you, even in an
expanded role. It's just as a wear and tear to
his body that you probably don't want to put him
through his rookie year.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
But also now it gives you the luxury of waiting
right and seeing how some things play out. The robs
are not in no rush to go get that veteran guy.
Where now you get these guys into rookie minicamp, you
start getting them together, teaching them to playbook, and you know,
does Orodric just may take another couple steps forward specific
perfectly in protecting Bonnicks. Yeah, I think he can. I
(29:03):
mean I I think he's got I mean, he showed enough.
Wasn't perfect, but he showed enough where it's like, hmm,
now a full year into this, you understand the system,
you understand what's called for.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
Uh, you're gonna be at the temple of Place.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yes, I think he could be a viable back in
this offense.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
What uh moments Saturday Nights Abs are back in action
Tonight against the Stars series all tied up at two
a piece, but Gabe Landiskog Dave.
Speaker 1 (29:51):
Pretty awesome. That was pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
That was just what a what an incredible moment. And
you know, we get we're kind of spoiled here in Denver.
We've had so many really good moments the last year.
I mean, bo Nick's ascending to what he did, and
the Broncos getting into the playoffs, the Nuggets just when
you sort of, in my opinion, sort of counting them out,
they go and they win that game on Saturday Night,
and then Gabe Laniskog, who has been off the ice
(30:14):
for three years, to score that goal and it was
a route. I mean, it wasn't like the game winner,
but it was still so cool and to do it
in front of the home fans. I thought that was
a special moment.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, it's and we've talked about that a lot on
the show. He's it's very very seldom that in professional sports.
Two things happen. One, a team is going to give
you that much time three years in essence and be
patient and hope you come back in two. You've got
an athlete that is that dedicated and knows there's gonna
(30:46):
be some dark days in his recovery and gonna be
some days when you wake up and you're like, man,
oh man, I don't feel I feel worse than I
did the day before. For him to have that perseverance
and resiliency and just mental and physical toughness, and then
we're not talking about he's able to come back and
skate with his kids, and we're talking about he's able
to come back and skate at an elite level and
(31:07):
play once again in the NHL. And oh, by the way,
the cherry on the top is they're in the playoffs
and he scored a playoff goal. I mean it's like,
I mean, it's it's honestly like a Hollywood script.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
And to hold the respect of a locker room, you know,
that's the added piece that I don't think it's talked
about enough. You know, the character of Landy to be
what he has always been in that locker room. You
get him, you just say hey, Polly stays, we're good.
You know, you could go to Saint Louis and then
Landy takes over this hockey team and for him to
(31:42):
just be on the bench and trying to get back
every single day things not working out the way that
you plan it. But to hold the respect of that
locker room with some absolute studs right and Game three,
I love it giving him a nod. I thought he
was exceptional with his crosscheck and his poke check. I
thought it was really good. Yeah, he brought some physicality,
(32:04):
some much needed physicality.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
He planted, Uh what was it? Uh?
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Who? Who?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Who?
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Do you randon?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:11):
He planted randon into the ice.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
But you know, you see that, and we talk about
Gabe and how great he's been in the two games
that he's been back. It's just been unbelievable. Individual efforts
though from the AVS player like Logan O'Connor right now
is playing some of the best hockey I've ever seen.
You look at you know, Nachushkin's goal in Game three.
(32:34):
Sometimes I think that that that guy holds onto the
buck a little bit too long and it bothers me,
it pisses me off. But that goal, I'm just like, Wow,
that's absolutely to swim.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Swim back in front of the net.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Scott free down to pipes right and and the move
that he puts on the on the goalie. So we're
seeing some tremendous efforts right, individual efforts right now, but
they're playing really, really good and hopefully they go get
you know, three and four really wick against this Dallas team.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Oh yeah, Rockies baseball coming up Next.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Joins the Sam's Number Three Diner and Bar, Glen and
Glendale tomorrow at three o'clock
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