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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We have Nuggets playoffs. Tonight Game five, big, big game
for the Nuggets. They could take a commanding three two
series lead, or like the Avalanche last night, fall behind
three to two and then you start to wonder if
they've got enough to get over the hump. Nick Ferguson
with me, Dave Logan will be long in just a
matter of moments.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Nick, my friend, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
It is a Tuesday, so you know what that means.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
It's not taco Tuesday, okay, because that was on your mind.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's turn up Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, turn up.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Tuesday, Turn up Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You're a big fan of the of the plants. Turn ups.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
No, no, we're not turn up. No, we're turning up.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh, turning up?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Turn up? Come on, man, get with it, Bryan.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, yeah, listen, you are.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You are an interesting dude, and I wouldn't be stunned.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
And that's very kind of scening, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You're a very interesting dude. As you bring your own
water and your own honey to restaurants. Yes, as I'm
staring it right here. You brought your own water, your
your own honey. They you know they have them here,
but you bring your own water and your own honey. Anyways, anyways,
I wouldn't be shocked if, like everybody else is like, yes,
TALKO Tuesday, and you're like, no, it's turn up Tuesday.
We are having turn ups in this house?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
No turnups?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Is it on my And then you have a turn
up farm in your backyard. I can see that.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
See a turn up is not that vestible that I
would want to and you make the kids, So I'm
gonna turn down on that turn.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Up go out there after doing the dishes. Of course,
then hey, you guys got to go pull those turn ups. Well,
turn up Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We're goal talk.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
If I did live on a farm and and I
had chickens, which I would love to have chicken everybody with,
I would have my kids go out there and pick
the eggs. And it sounds like maybe, man, Nick, is
you know, being too over.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Excessive and push them as a father.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
But to me, you said that that's how you build character,
you build captive that way.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, you are the.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Only one that has said that. I have never said
such a thing, and I would never say that to
your face.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, that's right, you would never say it to my face.
Not the fact that you did not think it. See,
that's the thing. You You did not say it to
my face. But it's not to say that you didn't
think it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Five zeros or kas. I want if you want to
get interact with the show, Dave's gonna be along here
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
How is that water?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
By the way, it's good, the water spectacular, but it's
not your average water.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Oh really, tell me why this is not the average water.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Okay, So the water first and foremost, it is filtered. Okay, right,
then I threw a little of lemon juice in it.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
The side of vinegar.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
That sounds awful, Yes, awfully good.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I mean it is good for you, like doing that
sort of thing is good for you. I've heard apple
cider vinegar is good for you. But I uh, I
gotta be honest. Drinking it for leisure is not something
I ever thought.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I would do.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Well, I have to tell you, after a lengthy period
of time drinking it, my palate has gotten used to
it where I drink it almost like it's a lemonade. Right.
It's that type of thing for for me. So it's
good for you. It's it's not recommended for the faint
of heart because it has a bite to it, but
(03:13):
your body will love you for it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Your intestines, overall health will love you for it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's good to know, Dave Logan, Are you in an
apple cider vinegar kind of person in the morning?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Oh? Really?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, I used to be in the evening, but he's
drinking it now for leisure.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Nick, do you know what a Brazilian butt lift ist?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, that's all. That's all I want to know. I don't.
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We talked.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yes, first of all, I mean I wasn't here yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay, Brian and I are getting one. Well, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's a good endorsement opportunity to listen.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Listen. Sometimes white white dudes got to do sort of
the unusual.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Man, do what you have to do, do your thing.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I didn't know what it was till yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I've done worse things for radio, like I the hell
you have? I got a sect me for radio?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Wait you did?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Did it actually work? Did it take?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Wait? Wait? Wait? You had a vasectomy for radio?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Like Amy had an endorsement deal.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
But you were going to get one anyway. Right, No,
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I was going to get one anyways.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I was going to get it anyways, and I approached
the sales stats day.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
This is something that I'm going to be doing. We
should do so well. She's the one that do Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I haven't met her yet and I'm looking forward to me.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, she's the one that said, hey, we've had two Yeah,
both healthy.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
We're happy.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know that.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
I've said occasionally and there she needs to get her
her leg out of your pants.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You have said that occasionally.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, but I mean I'm anxious to meet her.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Okay, this is very interesting for me.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
So we got vaseectames and Brazilian butt lifts.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I'd rather I'd rather have the Brazilian butt lift.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, I'd rather someone who one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Freaky deey brother, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You wouldn't want want to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Somebody when you watch?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No, I mean I want to watch in a dark
room or something.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
The results of the Brazilian butt lift. I don't want
to be an exam room. I'm talking about that they're
in results, like after the.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Fact that walking off the set here like no, no, no,
I didn't mean.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I didn't mean once you get done like, I'm not
one of those people.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
No, I would choose to be a spectator of watching
that opposed to have pectomy.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So the before and after of Dave Logan's bbl.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
No, Dave Logan has a healthy boody. He don't. I
don't need any lyft or any insertion this.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
I'm good. I'm good. I don't need no fat in
my ass. I mean, listen for someone else. Hey, I'm
not running the way I used to. I don't need
to carry extra pounds, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I mean, Hey, Grants could get carpor tunnel tried to
pull these cuts.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
I mean, Grant Grant already knows. Grant Grant was running
this thing back when this was the daily basis.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So you guys, you guys good spectacularly.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Now we're fantastic.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, we were just talking about Nick bringing in his
own honey and owned water.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, I'm you know what, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
See, Ryan tried to put me on blasts and make
me look bad to you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
By putting me on blast by the way he's trying
to you know, but.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
I saw your little post people putting you on blast
for something you said about your standards.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Know, I mean what I mean rational comments, just saying that,
you know, the idea of being planked by someone on
the day that all players look for instilling your moment away,
that's kind of disrespectful when they're responsible. And others felt
as though, no, that's part for the course, because when
you embarked on being on social media the way that
(06:49):
Coach Prime and his family is at this particular moment,
it was like, well, you just kind of open the floodgates,
and anyone should be able to do that. And I'm like, no,
but when you've been in that position, you've been waiting
all your life to have.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Your name called.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I mean, Schadur and family have been on social media
a lot, but that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Does not.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Make what Jeff Ulbrick's son did, Okay. I mean, I
think both things are are true. Right, shouldn't have happened
and and they you know, when you when you go
out there in social media to the extent that they have,
you're you're going to find some people that just don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's that's human nature. You can't do you can't pull that.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
No, you can't. But here's the thing. From a league standpoint,
what do you do about something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I think they honestly, I think they'll probably wind up
finding the Falcons right because the Sun was in the
facility right and then went on the dad's iPad to
find the number. I think it's going to be more
between the Dad and the Sun. But I think the League,
because they probably feel like we need, we need to
do something here. I wouldn't be surprised if they wind
(08:04):
up levying a fine against the Falcons, and maybe even
against Jeff Ulbrick.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Being a father, being in that position and your son
thinks about himself and going viral other than your well being,
you know what my mom would have did to me
as a grown man. I mean I could tell you
I shoe your mom were Yes large enough, Yes, large enough.
So I don't know how they're going to fix the situation,
but they have to do something.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Where if it was an employee of the Falcons, that
would be a totally different deal. I think then the
League would do something, probably suspend that employee. But but
the kid is not employee.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
But the employee of the team allowed his son to
gain access, that's your son.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I mean, so what you got to protect that information?
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I'm not I'm not saying you don't. But what are
you saying that Jeff Ulbrick should be fired.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
No, I'm not saying that he's should be fired. I'm
saying this should be a happy fine.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There might be maybe lose a draft pick for that.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
They're just set just to set the tempo.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
I mean, I guess the league maybe, but I would
not think I would not think the league would step
into that degree the fine. Yeah, I could see them
doing that. Finding Jeff Ulbrick personally, I could probably see
them doing that, you know, making the Sun work on
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a highway crew outside Atlanta somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Maybe now I.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Send the Sun a boulder so they can give him
some work to do.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, it's you know, kids, And we talked about yesterday kids, uh,
twenty one days.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Well, he's still he's still a kid, obviously pretty juvenile
in terms of his ability to process stuff. But they
just do you know, they do stupid and cruel things.
They need to be held accountable for them, for sure. Man.
I just I just wonder how that at home went
from the facility with Jeff olbrick steering whatever he drives,
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and that son sitting in the past in your seat,
I think to my dad.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I'm telling my son, you pay your own tuition from
here on out. You're done, you cut off. Is he
in college now?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So that's why I went.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
When individuals saying well, he's a you know, young man,
young kid.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I'm like, no, he's not. You're twenty one, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Give him between right and roll, and along the way,
you had several opportunities to decide not to go through
with it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, I mean, it was a bad look, all dude together.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And certainly, if you.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Think about to the point of there is that the
NFL does make examples out of people sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I don't think losing a draft pick, but he did
kind of wreck. I mean, there's the possibility that a
dad could have gotten fired for this, right. I mean,
I'm not saying that's what they're going to do, and
I don't think they're going to do that. But did
that even cross his mind for a moment. His dad's
entire career making several hundred thousand dollars a year, which
is helping put him through college.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And then he's in there having a great time. I'm
filming himself.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Especially for young men, I don't know what what what
age it is.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
For some it's later than others. What do they call
those things? Ryan?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
In the frontal lobe where you had the things that
connect for for a lot of young men, them them,
they're synapses. Them there don't don't connect until, you know,
I mean for some of us, until we get into
like our thirties, and for some of us, you know what,
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they still don't connect those neurons.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We're not connect neurons and synapses.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, listen to your point, right, I mean twenty
one difference between right and wrong, but still making idiot decisions,
all that kind of and especially if you feel entitled
to be able to.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Do these kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Those are all points once again, and I think that
you did bring this up. I guess this happened a
lot over the weekend, Tyler Warren. There was another there's
a couple of players. Now it's not from these kids.
These kids were the only connected, sure, but it happened
several times.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I mean not for me.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So the league, I think, in.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
That regard will probably issue some sort of edict to
all thirty two teams in terms of, hey, you're going
to crack down on who is allowed in the facility,
who has access to the facility, and then who can
go into the coaches offices. I mean they're probably be
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something like that. I wouldn't be surprised, but it's yeah,
it was me spirited and it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know, man, I just I hated it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I hated it for all the guys who it happened to,
Like last year, it happened to Cooper Degen.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But no one, no one really did I did. I
didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I forgot so who did that?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Don't don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
But there was no video posted where anyone can really
get upset about it, and Kooper Degen didn't really say.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Too much about it.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
See That's why I'm thinking Jeff Ulbrick's son, his them,
their synapses have not connected, because not only did he
do this, he made a video of it himself and
posted it himself.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Who you want?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Somebody who's in their synapses are not connected. That's who
it's like.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Because you think there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with it,
and you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know, you're trying to find something.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
To post where you can get a lot of likes.
I mean, that's the world we live in. That's how
silly and stupid. Some of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Is the apology that he posted on Instagram. People ran
that and I don't even know how this exactly worked,
but they ran that through an AI filter to see
how much of the apology was AI, and.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It came back one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So I don't know, I'm not I'm not accusing, but
I'm not not accusing.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
So you're saying he went to what do you call it,
GPT chat chat GPT yet GPT yeah, or broke or
whatever the you know. Well, so so let me let
me ask you a question. So do you you hate
that idea?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't. Actually, that's that's the thing like you in
particular figure I'm gonna get him on this.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't hate it because you know how many eyes
are going to be on it. And if you think
that you're gonna come across as disingenuous, it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Just doesn't make it worse.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It doesn't seem sincere. But at the same time, it's
it's a bit of how like the time we're living.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh no, we can't.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We can't use that as an excuse to bypass something
that has been done wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
What do you want to handwritten notes?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
No, no, noah, forget No, I don't want to hand
written I do.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I want you to stand out there and the camera
and I want.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You to say it and we can throw tomatoes and
all sorts of produce at them.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Well, if you want to, then go ahead that if that, folks,
But I want you to be able to get to
a point where you can stand in front of a
camera and then you can actually say that, right, because
that's you did it in front of the camera. So
for me, I think that is something that should happen.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
The idea is that he called to door, But no,
I want to see it publicly because I want that
level of embarrassment to be there and for someone to
write an article or even if the falcons said, well,
it was unintentional, like almost he stumbled across this phone
number by chance.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
No, you knew what it was when you had it
in your hand.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You dial the number, you pretended to be making movements
for particular reason.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So the intent was there, and that's what my parents.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Have always taught me, when I do anything, understand your
level of intent, because that really dictates the mission of
what you're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think it's fair, and I think the reaction to
it has been fair. I do like the fact that
we as a community, an NFL community otherwise, have come
out and said that this.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is pretty cheap and unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We'll see the NFL tends to be reactive and all
these kinds of things. The fact that this has maybe
happened before, and that sensitive information got out for Cooper
to gene it certainly wasn't just an isolated incident here
with Shoul or Sanders.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Other players are involved.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's what I think is going to be the fascinating
response to it. Again, we're here live Sam's Number three
Diner and Bar, Glendale. The Nuggets are playing in their
fifth playoff game tonight against the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't know, Dave, how are we feeling?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I like testing how you're feeling about the Nuggets, because
you do.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You've been the barometer for the entire fan base.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I'm I'm, of course all the way over like panicking
all the time, but you have been really level throughout
this entire process.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Even Friday night.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
When they were getting it handed to them, you were
still like, it's it's gonna be okay. Yeah, he didn't
say that the way he did not say it was
gonna be okay on Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I really have no idea what you just said.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
But you know, I'll say this, Susan, I think that
I think, well, no earth shattering news here. This is
to me, it's a critical game for the Nuggets, right
if the if the Clippers can come in here and
win tonight, then close it out in l A. I mean,
that's not that the Nuggets couldn't win, but I don't.
(16:54):
I don't like that scenario nearly as much. So I
think tonight it'll be a very tough night.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Walk watching We talked about this a little bit yesterday.
I think watching the end of the game Game four
in Los Angeles, watching Russell Westbrook walk off the court,
I mean he was limping so dramatically. I'm thinking, how
is that dude going to play at all?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Now?
Speaker 6 (17:17):
He's listed as questionable, but just watching him walk him
thinking is he going to be able to play anymore
this year? I don't have any information on that. I
would like to. And I know Westbrook has his fair
share of detractors. We talked about him at times. You know,
he'll cast up, he'll chuck up a shot and you're like, ah, man,
(17:37):
please don't shoot again, and I don't know, for another
twenty minutes straight, please don't shoot the ball. But I
think the pluses about weighed the negatives this year for
Westbrook and the Nuggets. And the Nuggets' depth is not
sufficient enough that you can take a guy out of
the lineup, whether you want to start him or not
start him. But a guy that was getting significant minutes
(17:59):
and then all of a sudden, he's not gonna play,
and so you're gonna look down the bench and say, okay,
how do we how do we sort of.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Divvy up those minutes. How they divvied him.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Up in Los Angeles was to keep the starters out
there and eternity.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yes, yeah, Peyton wants to play thirteen minutes, chan Charp
played two, DeAndre played five, and then Jalen Pikett played six.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
So, and they had they had two days off though
between that game and tonight's game. From this point on,
you don't have any two day breaks. So this is
I mean this this is not a Waterloo game, but
I would hope the Nuggets come out and play with
that physical mindset. I think they have to be physical,
(18:39):
and I think they have to understand that the Clippers,
you know, individually, can create a.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Lot of shots.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
The Nuggets have to do it more in a team
oriented way. And I think Joker has to touch the
ball almost every single offensive possession, and that if they
push the pace a little bit, it seems to be
that they get a few easy looks before the Clippers
can set up the half court defense.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
You know what, you brought up something very interesting because
the Nuggets during the game they tried the last game
was trying to be really physical with the l A Clippers,
and it seemed to work in that third quarter. The
fourth quarter just seemed like the dust fell off for
them as the Clippers were able to climb back into
the game.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
But I don't think that's not dust fell off. The
dust fell off? What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Like the dust the dust that they like you ever
seen describe your brain, right.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Zegy star dust The whole idea was actually covered.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
No, no, but but just think about it in that
frame of mind, like your dust is all over you,
and you and your you and your bag.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
You're doing your thing.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Then all of a sudden someone gets a broom and
hits you all your all, your dusty dust is gone.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's gone.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
So for me.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That I am but tall, is this like never never lands,
you know, like.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
The magic gun.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Don't keep let him finish?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yes for that, for that, No, for that quarter, all
the men, everything that he said to his team by
being more physical with the Clippers, they gave it in
that particular quarter. My point is that I don't think
that this is the natural mentality of the Denver Nuggets.
They can only keep that up for a period of
time before they go back to who they were, which
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they show in that fourth quarter. Luckily, Nikola Jokis drawing
two guys, was able to shoot the ball and then
all of a sudden Aaron Going tipped it in right.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Before you know the buzzer.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
There's value.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, whatever, call whatever you want to. But they were
fortunate to win that game. And I think for me,
the Clippers are the deepest team because with rest being
being out, where are you going to get.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
That level of production?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Because Michael Porter is so on and off is he
going to be one of those types of players tonight
where like a radiator, he's going to run or he's
gonna run.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Cole, you tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Dust radiators mcgiver and I haven't miss mcgiver.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, I'm sure you will.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I haven't say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I've got.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I've got some money on it that you're gonna get
to it here pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Well, I don't put money on things, but you might
just win.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
We're off early here on a beautiful afternoon here in
the Mile High City. A little bit cloudy, but I
like it. I like the overcast. We're at Sam's Number
three Diner in bar and Glendale. Come on down here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And say hi to us. We're here until six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You can watch all the Avids, Abs and Nuggets games here,
the playoff games as they're continuing to roll.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, come back.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We'll get into some thoughts on the Broncos first round pick.
I want to ask you about the Joker position on defense.
We'll get to that coming up next. Bryan Edward, Stave Logan,
Nick Ferguson, O Kawa.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
By the way, shout out to Sam, the mail carrier
who listens to the show all the time he's working
right now?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Hi, Sam, yep, Sam? Hello?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like rain, snow, sleet and whatever the hell they say,
he's there, carry on.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
My grandfather was a male man. Really yeah, for I mean,
I don't know how long. It's like, probably thirty year
or something like that. But this is what he did
his whole life. There's not many I don't know that.
My dad did a job for almost forty years. I
don't know many people that will stay in the same
You might be one of.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The only other people I know.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Hated the same the world would stay in the same
job for thirty five years.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Maybe you like it?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It makes no what's that?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Maybe you like it?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, if you love the work.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I mean who would stay if you love the work?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Sooner or later you just run out of things to
talk about, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Man, you sat down and you had plenty to say
this today?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, just jump in.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
The draft with the second most watched draft in the
history of draft watching.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That is second most compared to last year, which was
number one.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Am I assuming that there were more people that watched
the NFL Draft, then I think I read this somewhere
today online. Then watched uh to an NBA playoff game
and an NHL playoff game combined, and I will say this,
I love football. Obviously we covered the draft, but damn,
that doesn't make any sense to me at all.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But what what it says to me is that the
NFL is still king because we're not playing any game.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Listen, everyone wants.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
To watch the prospects to see where they're going to
possibly go.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The NFL is king.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Queen Jack, Rook Bishop, they know Joker in chess.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I'll talk about cars.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I love you, Rook.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
You're just missiting. It was great, It was great. I
was waiting for Nick to talk about dust.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So yeah, second most watch NFL draft ever of fifty
two percent versus twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So, actually I take that back. It was second.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't know what the original most watched draft was
in twenty twenty, so it's the most watched drafts.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Nobody can go anywhere, that's right. That was co Covid. Yeah,
so we're all watching at home. That was the most swatched.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Wearing a mask at home.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And there were no NBA NHL games at all. There
was nothing else going on.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Remember, that. No, No, I don't even think baseball.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah they started, they hadn't they hadn't restarted it.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah right, yeah, because remember Roger Goodell kind of was like,
we're gonna do this.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Wait a minute, went because they played that in the
NBA they had the bubble for the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, but they did that so much later, like they
suspended the season.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah they did. Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Like I remember that moment because Ruby Gobert was in
the press room like coughing on all the mics and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Then he mup having it and then that was like
a big deal.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
But with those numbers that you have, is that the
entire draft or was that just the first round itself?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I had the first round too, so I mean this
is just what they posted on NFL media. So the
second most watch since twenty twenty fifty two percent year
over year, most watched first round since twenty seventeen, and
the second highest NI two and Day three viewership on record.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
They had.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
They had I believe this is true at at or
in Green Bay to attend the draft.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They had over two hundred and fifty thousand people.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Green Bay as.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
A town I think has a little over one hundred
thousand people, so big of that, which you will me
a bunch of out of towners, Yeah, came in, but
it's I mean, they panned the crowd right that first
that we were doing. We were doing the draft from
the Broncos facility, and they panned the crowd and it
was like it looked like a rock concert, like a
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big one, like Overseas big one.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So on.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
For ESPN, they said an average audience of seven point
five million viewers.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
So what's an NBA or NHL playoff game? Do they
get seven and a half million viewers?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
I'm thinking like maybe three million max.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Maybe, but you gotta think about it.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I mean, you talked about the first round, which was
very intriguing because everyone was trying to figure out, you know,
what was gonna happen in the first five picks. But
when you go to day two and day three, I
would have the thing and I could be wrong, but
that Chador Sanders bump actually helped as that drama start
to unfold as everyone was trying to figure out where
was he going to go and if he was going
to go to any particular team.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So ESPN said that they averaged over this last weekend
five point four million.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And that we're talking about the draft.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yes, no, no, this is the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So NBA playoffs got five point four the draft draft
seven seventh.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
There you go, hey, makeup of what you want.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean, I you know, well, but again you said,
NFL King Queen Rook all the I mean, you're right,
and that's and this is a further proof. But it
is compelling, and the NFL's made it compelling. The shador
Standers story alone. I knew as we were sitting in
the midst of it on Night two and Night three,
it just had that feeling that if this got into
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day three from a viewership standpoint, from an interest standpoint,
it would be one of the most dramatic things ever
in the history of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I know people who watch just to see the train wreck,
and once he was taken off the board, people kind
of turned off because all the excitement and the lore
and the controversy was therefore gone. But the league has
done a great job of making this one, well, these
three days one of the most sensationalized events in sporting history.
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There's not another Draft party or whatever event. That said,
I never sit around said, I want to watch an
NBA draft. Oh no, no, MLB draft, like what, I'll
have it on. No, but I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They're not nearly as compelling.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
And well, part of the reason it's not as compelling
in the first round from Major League Baseball unless you
have a son or a nephew or somebody that lives
next door, we don't know. Even if you're really a
baseball fan, you may have heard of a name or
two in the top five, but we don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
We don't know those those kids' names.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And even on top of that, they may not be
playing right away either, right like Jackson Holliday a couple
of years ago, right, that was like the name, and
because we know Matt and he still didn't play right away.
Now he's playing now, Yeah, he's a full time player now.
But I mean it it took a little bit and
most of the time, especially in Major League Baseball, and
it's the same for the NBA.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean that the top handful of picks will play,
but there are quite a few that ended up in
the G League and they kind of developed down there
and they bring them up or maybe they're into bench
guys because you already have your starters. It's just the
NFL is built so different because you can find guys
that immediately impact the team all the way into day three.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Where is Darko Milicic?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Where is Darko Milicic.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Speaking of draft choices, high draft choice vacations, maybe didn't
pan out.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Probably enjoying his TURNI farm, Yes, probably Okay, But you
know what.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
The here's the thing about the NFL that that's different
from all the major league professional of the leagues is
that all this starts in high school when we started
rating high school athletes the ESPN Top one hundred, and
then now you're following those blue chip players to respective colleges.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Now you're following them from college.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Well, which one of these guys were coming out of
high school was a blue trip guy that you can
actually follow, and they build the story so once they
get to the draft, there is a story behind each player.
And the league does, in their partners do a better
job than some of the other professional leagues and building
that story, because when you're watching the draft, it's just
not like a guy a bunch of guys on the
panel talking about teams who should take here and take there.
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But now you're playing the stories of these individual players,
and we as people we live by Caresley through those
individuals saying, you know what, I played high school ball
at Pop High. I scored four touchdowns. Right, see, you
didn't get that reference. Okay, thank you. It's about time.
You know, better late than never. But that's the whole
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idea they sell that, and this is where baseball and
in basketball they missed out on those.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
I think one of the best stories over the weekend
for the for the NFL Draft, and this may be
from a high school coaches perspective, first first player picked
in the draft coming out of high.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
School was a zero star.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
That's amazing, had no stars, yeah, and had one offer
and it was to a small a smaller school in
San Antonio whose name escapes me.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I believe he.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Went there and then transferred to Washington State and then
transferred to Miami. And now it was first picking the draft.
So cam Ward's story is a pretty cool story to follow.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
All right, We are live from SAMs doorby three, Dinner
and Bar in Glendale until six o'clock. Come on Downsey
High to us. We have Nuggets basketball tonight this hour.
Shans one thousand dollars coming up in the next five
minutes thanks to Maverick. You know, one other thing I
was thinking about with that conversation, Dave, is the popularity
of college football I think has also seen some pretty
significant growth. So with standard reason, that's only going to
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continue to sort of feed the beast of the NFL.
The college football is now as as accessible and people
are gambling on it, and they're they're enjoying it and
the levels that they are. Would you agree with that sentiment?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Sure, Yeah, I mean I think I think more people.
I mean, you have college football fans, you have NFL fans,
you have fans of both. But I think because college
football has become so popular that some of the star players,
and I think you know, we as media, I mean
in particular ESPN and Fox and some of those on
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a national level do a really good job of highlighting
some of the some of the more well known players
and stories.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And yeah, I mean this is I mean, the.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Just the overall feeling I think of love for the
game of football in this country. I don't think it's
ever been higher. I think back to when Mark Cuban,
who at that point was the owner of the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I mean he basically warned. I would say a longer.
He basically warned and sort of predicted in the warning
that football was about to sort of start to lose
its notoriety and appeal for a number of reasons, concussions
and all sorts.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Of things going on in the game. But that has
not been the case.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
That's a very interesting thing to look at the fact
that I don't want to say that the NFL is
distraction proof because you break up concussions, which was a
huge thing, you know, a couple of years ago, because
that was the main topic of conversation, and I know
the league was worried about their pool of talent drying up,
and he did all these types of things to make
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sure that didn't happen. But we're going to see the
growth of football from professional standpoint continue to grow because
once again, it's.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
About star power, high profile players.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
The nil game is changing everything because you go from
watching guys make an abundance of money and college football
to wanting to watch them in the pros, and then
you add sports books with that, and then fantasy sports.
So this is why the infro is going to continue
to grow. And the crazy part is that baseball and
basketball they have the fantasy aspect of it, but not
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in this particular way because they do a poor job
of highlighting those particular players. Because think about it, we
don't see a lot of those players until March Madness,
and due to March Madness and a lot of those
Cinderella teams, we don't see those guys anymore because now
they're jumping to much larger teams because of power. Fine,
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and if they try to focus on building a story,
then that becomes someone better once they get to the draft.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
But here's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
When it comes to postseason awards, no one does it better.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Than college football.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Because Heisman Award, that's the biggest war. That's one that
everyone's watching. Tell me, whey they have that in college baseball,
where's that in college basketball? They don't have it?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Not even close, exactly, not even close. And again we
talked about it the development leagues, if you will, right,
college baseball college basketball, College basketball does a pretty good job,
especially once we get to the tournament, but again compels
the comparison to college football is overall and now that you
have the college football Playoff, which is only going to
add more intrigue into that. I mean again, it just
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only continues to sort of build on his stuff. I
think it's a fun conversation, especially as we're seeing some
of these numbers come out, and I think it's just
sort of a an acknowledgment of the direction that we
already knew it was heading, but opposite of what Mark
Cuban predicted about a decade ago. Understandably why but we're
on the other side of this and seeing it nothing
but growth.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
All right.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
When we come back, we want to check out with
Adam mar Is because the Nuggets are playing tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Mikeael Porter Junior.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
By the way, Dave was the player that I was
talking about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Came off the bench. He did not get a suspension today,
So that was the player because I was I was like,
there's somebody that did come off the bench. I couldn't
remember who, So nobody got nobody got suspended.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Maybe there's some fines, I think, I think smartly, Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
So we'll talk to him about all that and the
game tonight. Coming up next live from SAMs Number three
Diner and Barring Glendale on Kaway
We have Nuggets playoffs. Tonight Game five, big, big game
for the Nuggets. They could take a commanding three two
series lead, or like the Avalanche last night, fall behind
three to two and then you start to wonder if
they've got enough to get over the hump. Nick Ferguson
with me, Dave Logan will be long in just a
matter of moments.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Nick, my friend, how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I'm doing well.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
It is a Tuesday, so you know what that means.
Speaker 5 (00:24):
It's not taco Tuesday, okay, because that was on your mind.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
It's turn up Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, turn up.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Tuesday, Turn up Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You're a big fan of the of the plants. Turn ups.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
No, no, we're not turn up. No, we're turning up.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oh, turning up?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Turn up? Come on, man, get with it, Bryan.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, yeah, listen, you are.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
You are an interesting dude, and I wouldn't be stunned.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
And that's very kind of scening, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
You're a very interesting dude. As you bring your own
water and your own honey to restaurants. Yes, as I'm
staring it right here. You brought your own water, your
your own honey. They you know they have them here,
but you bring your own water and your own honey. Anyways, anyways,
I wouldn't be shocked if, like everybody else is like, yes,
TALKO Tuesday, and you're like, no, it's turn up Tuesday.
We are having turn ups in this house?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
No turnups?
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Is it on my And then you have a turn
up farm in your backyard. I can see that.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
See a turn up is not that vestible that I
would want to and you make the kids, So I'm
gonna turn down on that turn.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Up go out there after doing the dishes. Of course,
then hey, you guys got to go pull those turn ups. Well,
turn up Tuesday.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
We're goal talk.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
If I did live on a farm and and I
had chickens, which I would love to have chicken everybody with,
I would have my kids go out there and pick
the eggs. And it sounds like maybe, man, Nick, is
you know, being too over.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Excessive and push them as a father.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
But to me, you said that that's how you build character,
you build captive that way.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Yeah, you are the.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Only one that has said that. I have never said
such a thing, and I would never say that to
your face.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Well, that's right, you would never say it to my face.
Not the fact that you did not think it. See,
that's the thing. You You did not say it to
my face. But it's not to say that you didn't
think it.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Five zeros or kas. I want if you want to
get interact with the show, Dave's gonna be along here
just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
How is that water?
Speaker 5 (02:20):
By the way, it's good, the water spectacular, but it's
not your average water.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Oh really, tell me why this is not the average water.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Okay, So the water first and foremost, it is filtered. Okay, right,
then I threw a little of lemon juice in it.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
The side of vinegar.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
That sounds awful, Yes, awfully good.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I mean it is good for you, like doing that
sort of thing is good for you. I've heard apple
cider vinegar is good for you. But I uh, I
gotta be honest. Drinking it for leisure is not something
I ever thought.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I would do.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Well, I have to tell you, after a lengthy period
of time drinking it, my palate has gotten used to
it where I drink it almost like it's a lemonade. Right.
It's that type of thing for for me. So it's
good for you. It's it's not recommended for the faint
of heart because it has a bite to it, but
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your body will love you for it.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Your intestines, overall health will love you for it.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
It's good to know, Dave Logan, Are you in an
apple cider vinegar kind of person in the morning?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Oh? Really?
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Okay, I used to be in the evening, but he's
drinking it now for leisure.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Nick, do you know what a Brazilian butt lift ist?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Okay, that's all. That's all I want to know. I don't.
I don't want to.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
We talked.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We talked about it yesterday.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yes, first of all, I mean I wasn't here yesterday.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Okay, Brian and I are getting one. Well, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
It's a good endorsement opportunity to listen.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Listen. Sometimes white white dudes got to do sort of
the unusual.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Man, do what you have to do, do your thing.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I didn't know what it was till yesterday.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I've done worse things for radio, like I the hell
you have? I got a sect me for radio?
Speaker 5 (04:03):
Wait?
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Wait you did?
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Did it actually work? Did it take?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Wait? Wait? Wait? You had a vasectomy for radio?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Like Amy had an endorsement deal.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
But you were going to get one anyway. Right, No,
I was.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I was going to get one anyways.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I was going to get it anyways, and I approached
the sales stats day.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
This is something that I'm going to be doing. We
should do so well. She's the one that do Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I haven't met her yet and I'm looking forward to me.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Yeah, she's the one that said, hey, we've had two Yeah,
both healthy.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
We're happy.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know that.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
I've said occasionally and there she needs to get her
her leg out of your pants.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
You have said that occasionally.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, but I mean I'm anxious to meet her.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Okay, this is very interesting for me.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
So we got vaseectames and Brazilian butt lifts.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
Yeah, I'd rather I'd rather have the Brazilian butt lift.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
No, I'd rather someone who one of them.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Freaky deey brother, what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You wouldn't want want to watch.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Somebody when you watch?
Speaker 1 (05:07):
No, I mean I want to watch in a dark
room or something.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
The results of the Brazilian butt lift. I don't want
to be an exam room. I'm talking about that they're
in results, like after the.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Fact that walking off the set here like no, no, no,
I didn't mean.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
I didn't mean once you get done like, I'm not
one of those people.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
No, I would choose to be a spectator of watching
that opposed to have pectomy.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
So the before and after of Dave Logan's bbl.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
No, Dave Logan has a healthy boody. He don't. I
don't need any lyft or any insertion this.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
I'm good. I'm good. I don't need no fat in
my ass. I mean, listen for someone else. Hey, I'm
not running the way I used to. I don't need
to carry extra pounds, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I mean, Hey, Grants could get carpor tunnel tried to
pull these cuts.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
I mean, Grant Grant already knows. Grant Grant was running
this thing back when this was the daily basis.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So you guys, you guys good spectacularly.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Now we're fantastic.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Yeah, we were just talking about Nick bringing in his
own honey and owned water.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, I'm you know what, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
See, Ryan tried to put me on blasts and make
me look bad to you.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
By putting me on blast by the way he's trying
to you know, but.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
I saw your little post people putting you on blast
for something you said about your standards.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, oh yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Know, I mean what I mean rational comments, just saying that,
you know, the idea of being planked by someone on
the day that all players look for instilling your moment away,
that's kind of disrespectful when they're responsible. And others felt
as though, no, that's part for the course, because when
you embarked on being on social media the way that
(06:49):
Coach Prime and his family is at this particular moment,
it was like, well, you just kind of open the floodgates,
and anyone should be able to do that. And I'm like, no,
but when you've been in that position, you've been waiting
all your life to have.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Your name called.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
And I'm with you on that.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
I think that.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
I mean, Schadur and family have been on social media
a lot, but that.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Does not.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
Make what Jeff Ulbrick's son did, Okay. I mean, I
think both things are are true. Right, shouldn't have happened
and and they you know, when you when you go
out there in social media to the extent that they have,
you're you're going to find some people that just don't
like it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
That's that's human nature. You can't do you can't pull that.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
No, you can't. But here's the thing. From a league standpoint,
what do you do about something like that.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
I think they honestly, I think they'll probably wind up
finding the Falcons right because the Sun was in the
facility right and then went on the dad's iPad to
find the number. I think it's going to be more
between the Dad and the Sun. But I think the League,
because they probably feel like we need, we need to
do something here. I wouldn't be surprised if they wind
(08:04):
up levying a fine against the Falcons, and maybe even
against Jeff Ulbrick.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
Being a father, being in that position and your son
thinks about himself and going viral other than your well being,
you know what my mom would have did to me
as a grown man. I mean I could tell you
I shoe your mom were Yes large enough, Yes, large enough.
So I don't know how they're going to fix the situation,
but they have to do something.
Speaker 6 (08:33):
Where if it was an employee of the Falcons, that
would be a totally different deal. I think then the
League would do something, probably suspend that employee. But but
the kid is not employee.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
But the employee of the team allowed his son to
gain access, that's your son.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
I mean, so what you got to protect that information?
Speaker 6 (08:53):
I'm not I'm not saying you don't. But what are
you saying that Jeff Ulbrick should be fired.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
No, I'm not saying that he's should be fired. I'm
saying this should be a happy fine.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
There might be maybe lose a draft pick for that.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
They're just set just to set the tempo.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
I mean, I guess the league maybe, but I would
not think I would not think the league would step
into that degree the fine. Yeah, I could see them
doing that. Finding Jeff Ulbrick personally, I could probably see
them doing that, you know, making the Sun work on
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a highway crew outside Atlanta somewhere.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Maybe now I.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Send the Sun a boulder so they can give him
some work to do.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, it's you know, kids, And we talked about yesterday kids, uh,
twenty one days.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
Well, he's still he's still a kid, obviously pretty juvenile
in terms of his ability to process stuff. But they
just do you know, they do stupid and cruel things.
They need to be held accountable for them, for sure. Man.
I just I just wonder how that at home went
from the facility with Jeff olbrick steering whatever he drives,
(10:05):
and that son sitting in the past in your seat,
I think to my dad.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
I'm telling my son, you pay your own tuition from
here on out. You're done, you cut off. Is he
in college now?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
So that's why I went.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
When individuals saying well, he's a you know, young man,
young kid.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
I'm like, no, he's not. You're twenty one, you know.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
Give him between right and roll, and along the way,
you had several opportunities to decide not to go through
with it.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Yeah, I mean, it was a bad look, all dude together.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
It really was.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
And certainly, if you.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Think about to the point of there is that the
NFL does make examples out of people sometimes.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I don't think losing a draft pick, but he did
kind of wreck. I mean, there's the possibility that a
dad could have gotten fired for this, right. I mean,
I'm not saying that's what they're going to do, and
I don't think they're going to do that. But did
that even cross his mind for a moment. His dad's
entire career making several hundred thousand dollars a year, which
is helping put him through college.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
And then he's in there having a great time. I'm
filming himself.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Especially for young men, I don't know what what what
age it is.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
For some it's later than others. What do they call
those things? Ryan?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
In the frontal lobe where you had the things that
connect for for a lot of young men, them them,
they're synapses. Them there don't don't connect until, you know,
I mean for some of us, until we get into
like our thirties, and for some of us, you know what,
(11:29):
they still don't connect those neurons.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
We're not connect neurons and synapses.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I mean, listen to your point, right, I mean twenty
one difference between right and wrong, but still making idiot decisions,
all that kind of and especially if you feel entitled
to be able to.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Do these kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Those are all points once again, and I think that
you did bring this up. I guess this happened a
lot over the weekend, Tyler Warren. There was another there's
a couple of players. Now it's not from these kids.
These kids were the only connected, sure, but it happened
several times.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I mean not for me.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
So the league, I think, in.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
That regard will probably issue some sort of edict to
all thirty two teams in terms of, hey, you're going
to crack down on who is allowed in the facility,
who has access to the facility, and then who can
go into the coaches offices. I mean they're probably be
(12:23):
something like that. I wouldn't be surprised, but it's yeah,
it was me spirited and it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
You know, man, I just I hated it.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
I hated it for all the guys who it happened to,
Like last year, it happened to Cooper Degen.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
But no one, no one really did I did. I
didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I forgot so who did that?
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Don't don't know. I really don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
But there was no video posted where anyone can really
get upset about it, and Kooper Degen didn't really say.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Too much about it.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
See That's why I'm thinking Jeff Ulbrick's son, his them,
their synapses have not connected, because not only did he
do this, he made a video of it himself and
posted it himself.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Is that correct?
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Who you want?
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Somebody who's in their synapses are not connected. That's who
it's like.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
Because you think there's nothing, there's nothing wrong with it,
and you're trying to.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
You know, you're trying to find something.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
To post where you can get a lot of likes.
I mean, that's the world we live in. That's how
silly and stupid. Some of this stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Is the apology that he posted on Instagram. People ran
that and I don't even know how this exactly worked,
but they ran that through an AI filter to see
how much of the apology was AI, and.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
It came back one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
So I don't know, I'm not I'm not accusing, but
I'm not not accusing.
Speaker 6 (13:41):
So you're saying he went to what do you call it,
GPT chat chat GPT yet GPT yeah, or broke or
whatever the you know. Well, so so let me let
me ask you a question. So do you you hate
that idea?
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I don't. Actually, that's that's the thing like you in
particular figure I'm gonna get him on this.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
I don't hate it because you know how many eyes
are going to be on it. And if you think
that you're gonna come across as disingenuous, it.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Just doesn't make it worse.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
It doesn't seem sincere. But at the same time, it's
it's a bit of how like the time we're living.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
Oh no, we can't.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
We can't use that as an excuse to bypass something
that has been done wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
What do you want to handwritten notes?
Speaker 3 (14:24):
No?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
No, no, noah, forget No, I don't want to hand
written I do.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:27):
I want you to stand out there and the camera
and I want.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
You to say it and we can throw tomatoes and
all sorts of produce at them.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
Well, if you want to, then go ahead that if that, folks,
But I want you to be able to get to
a point where you can stand in front of a
camera and then you can actually say that, right, because
that's you did it in front of the camera. So
for me, I think that is something that should happen.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
Now.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
The idea is that he called to door, But no,
I want to see it publicly because I want that
level of embarrassment to be there and for someone to
write an article or even if the falcons said, well,
it was unintentional, like almost he stumbled across this phone
number by chance.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
No, you knew what it was when you had it
in your hand.
Speaker 5 (15:13):
You dial the number, you pretended to be making movements
for particular reason.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
So the intent was there, and that's what my parents.
Speaker 5 (15:21):
Have always taught me, when I do anything, understand your
level of intent, because that really dictates the mission of
what you're trying to accomplish.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
I think it's fair, and I think the reaction to
it has been fair. I do like the fact that
we as a community, an NFL community otherwise, have come
out and said that this.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Is pretty cheap and unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
We'll see the NFL tends to be reactive and all
these kinds of things. The fact that this has maybe
happened before, and that sensitive information got out for Cooper
to gene it certainly wasn't just an isolated incident here
with Shoul or Sanders.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Other players are involved.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
That's what I think is going to be the fascinating
response to it. Again, we're here live Sam's Number three
Diner and Bar, Glendale. The Nuggets are playing in their
fifth playoff game tonight against the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I don't know, Dave, how are we feeling?
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I like testing how you're feeling about the Nuggets, because
you do.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You've been the barometer for the entire fan base.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I'm I'm, of course all the way over like panicking
all the time, but you have been really level throughout
this entire process.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Even Friday night.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
When they were getting it handed to them, you were
still like, it's it's gonna be okay. Yeah, he didn't
say that the way he did not say it was
gonna be okay on Friday.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I really have no idea what you just said.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
But you know, I'll say this, Susan, I think that
I think, well, no earth shattering news here. This is
to me, it's a critical game for the Nuggets, right
if the if the Clippers can come in here and
win tonight, then close it out in l A. I mean,
that's not that the Nuggets couldn't win, but I don't.
(16:54):
I don't like that scenario nearly as much. So I
think tonight it'll be a very tough night.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Walk watching We talked about this a little bit yesterday.
I think watching the end of the game Game four
in Los Angeles, watching Russell Westbrook walk off the court,
I mean he was limping so dramatically. I'm thinking, how
is that dude going to play at all?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Now?
Speaker 6 (17:17):
He's listed as questionable, but just watching him walk him
thinking is he going to be able to play anymore
this year? I don't have any information on that. I
would like to. And I know Westbrook has his fair
share of detractors. We talked about him at times. You know,
he'll cast up, he'll chuck up a shot and you're like, ah, man,
(17:37):
please don't shoot again, and I don't know, for another
twenty minutes straight, please don't shoot the ball. But I
think the pluses about weighed the negatives this year for
Westbrook and the Nuggets. And the Nuggets' depth is not
sufficient enough that you can take a guy out of
the lineup, whether you want to start him or not
start him. But a guy that was getting significant minutes
(17:59):
and then all of a sudden, he's not gonna play,
and so you're gonna look down the bench and say, okay,
how do we how do we sort of.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Divvy up those minutes. How they divvied him.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Up in Los Angeles was to keep the starters out
there and eternity.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yes, yeah, Peyton wants to play thirteen minutes, chan Charp
played two, DeAndre played five, and then Jalen Pikett played six.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
So, and they had they had two days off though
between that game and tonight's game. From this point on,
you don't have any two day breaks. So this is
I mean this this is not a Waterloo game, but
I would hope the Nuggets come out and play with
that physical mindset. I think they have to be physical,
(18:39):
and I think they have to understand that the Clippers,
you know, individually, can create a.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Lot of shots.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
The Nuggets have to do it more in a team
oriented way. And I think Joker has to touch the
ball almost every single offensive possession, and that if they
push the pace a little bit, it seems to be
that they get a few easy looks before the Clippers
can set up the half court defense.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
You know what, you brought up something very interesting because
the Nuggets during the game they tried the last game
was trying to be really physical with the l A Clippers,
and it seemed to work in that third quarter. The
fourth quarter just seemed like the dust fell off for
them as the Clippers were able to climb back into
the game.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
But I don't think that's not dust fell off. The
dust fell off? What the hell does that mean?
Speaker 5 (19:30):
Like the dust the dust that they like you ever
seen describe your brain, right.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Zegy star dust The whole idea was actually covered.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
No, no, but but just think about it in that
frame of mind, like your dust is all over you,
and you and your you and your bag.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
You're doing your thing.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Then all of a sudden someone gets a broom and
hits you all your all, your dusty dust is gone.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
It's gone.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
So for me.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
That I am but tall, is this like never never lands,
you know, like.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
The magic gun.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Don't keep let him finish?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yes for that, for that, No, for that quarter, all
the men, everything that he said to his team by
being more physical with the Clippers, they gave it in
that particular quarter. My point is that I don't think
that this is the natural mentality of the Denver Nuggets.
They can only keep that up for a period of
time before they go back to who they were, which
(20:24):
they show in that fourth quarter. Luckily, Nikola Jokis drawing
two guys, was able to shoot the ball and then
all of a sudden Aaron Going tipped it in right.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
Before you know the buzzer.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
There's value.
Speaker 5 (20:38):
Yeah, whatever, call whatever you want to. But they were
fortunate to win that game. And I think for me,
the Clippers are the deepest team because with rest being
being out, where are you going to get.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
That level of production?
Speaker 5 (20:51):
Because Michael Porter is so on and off is he
going to be one of those types of players tonight
where like a radiator, he's going to run or he's
gonna run.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Cole, you tell me.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Dust radiators mcgiver and I haven't miss mcgiver.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Well, I'm sure you will.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
I haven't say anything.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I've got.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I've got some money on it that you're gonna get
to it here pretty quick.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Well, I don't put money on things, but you might
just win.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
All right.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
We're off early here on a beautiful afternoon here in
the Mile High City. A little bit cloudy, but I
like it. I like the overcast. We're at Sam's Number
three Diner in bar and Glendale. Come on down here.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
And say hi to us. We're here until six o'clock.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
You can watch all the Avids, Abs and Nuggets games here,
the playoff games as they're continuing to roll.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Well, come back.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We'll get into some thoughts on the Broncos first round pick.
I want to ask you about the Joker position on defense.
We'll get to that coming up next. Bryan Edward, Stave Logan,
Nick Ferguson, O Kawa.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
By the way, shout out to Sam, the mail carrier
who listens to the show all the time he's working
right now?
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Hi, Sam, yep, Sam? Hello?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (22:01):
Like rain, snow, sleet and whatever the hell they say,
he's there, carry on.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
My grandfather was a male man. Really yeah, for I mean,
I don't know how long. It's like, probably thirty year
or something like that. But this is what he did
his whole life. There's not many I don't know that.
My dad did a job for almost forty years. I
don't know many people that will stay in the same
You might be one of.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
The only other people I know.
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Hated the same the world would stay in the same
job for thirty five years.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Maybe you like it?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
It makes no what's that?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Maybe you like it?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah, if you love the work.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
I mean who would stay if you love the work?
Speaker 4 (22:37):
That's right.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Sooner or later you just run out of things to
talk about, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Man, you sat down and you had plenty to say
this today?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, just jump in.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:47):
The draft with the second most watched draft in the
history of draft watching.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
That is second most compared to last year, which was
number one.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Am I assuming that there were more people that watched
the NFL Draft, then I think I read this somewhere
today online. Then watched uh to an NBA playoff game
and an NHL playoff game combined, and I will say this,
I love football. Obviously we covered the draft, but damn,
that doesn't make any sense to me at all.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
But what what it says to me is that the
NFL is still king because we're not playing any game.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Listen, everyone wants.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
To watch the prospects to see where they're going to
possibly go.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
The NFL is king.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Queen Jack, Rook Bishop, they know Joker in chess.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
I'll talk about cars.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I love you, Rook.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
You're just missiting. It was great, It was great. I
was waiting for Nick to talk about dust.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
So yeah, second most watch NFL draft ever of fifty
two percent versus twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
So, actually I take that back. It was second.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I don't know what the original most watched draft was
in twenty twenty, so it's the most watched drafts.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Nobody can go anywhere, that's right. That was co Covid. Yeah,
so we're all watching at home. That was the most swatched.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Wearing a mask at home.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
And there were no NBA NHL games at all. There
was nothing else going on.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Remember, that. No, No, I don't even think baseball.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah they started, they hadn't they hadn't restarted it.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Yeah right, yeah, because remember Roger Goodell kind of was like,
we're gonna do this.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Wait a minute, went because they played that in the
NBA they had the bubble for the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Yeah, but they did that so much later, like they
suspended the season.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah they did. Yeah, they did.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Like I remember that moment because Ruby Gobert was in
the press room like coughing on all the mics and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
Then he mup having it and then that was like
a big deal.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
But with those numbers that you have, is that the
entire draft or was that just the first round itself?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
I had the first round too, so I mean this
is just what they posted on NFL media. So the
second most watch since twenty twenty fifty two percent year
over year, most watched first round since twenty seventeen, and
the second highest NI two and Day three viewership on record.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
They had.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
They had I believe this is true at at or
in Green Bay to attend the draft.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
They had over two hundred and fifty thousand people.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
Green Bay as.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
A town I think has a little over one hundred
thousand people, so big of that, which you will me
a bunch of out of towners, Yeah, came in, but
it's I mean, they panned the crowd right that first
that we were doing. We were doing the draft from
the Broncos facility, and they panned the crowd and it
was like it looked like a rock concert, like a
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big one, like Overseas big one.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
So on.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
For ESPN, they said an average audience of seven point
five million viewers.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
So what's an NBA or NHL playoff game? Do they
get seven and a half million viewers?
Speaker 5 (25:53):
I'm thinking like maybe three million max.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Maybe, but you gotta think about it.
Speaker 5 (25:59):
I mean, you talked about the first round, which was
very intriguing because everyone was trying to figure out, you know,
what was gonna happen in the first five picks. But
when you go to day two and day three, I
would have the thing and I could be wrong, but
that Chador Sanders bump actually helped as that drama start
to unfold as everyone was trying to figure out where
was he going to go and if he was going
to go to any particular team.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
So ESPN said that they averaged over this last weekend
five point four million.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And that we're talking about the draft.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
Yes, no, no, this is the NBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So NBA playoffs got five point four the draft draft
seven seventh.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
There you go, hey, makeup of what you want.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean, I you know, well, but again you said,
NFL King Queen Rook all the I mean, you're right,
and that's and this is a further proof. But it
is compelling, and the NFL's made it compelling. The shador
Standers story alone. I knew as we were sitting in
the midst of it on Night two and Night three,
it just had that feeling that if this got into
(26:59):
day three from a viewership standpoint, from an interest standpoint,
it would be one of the most dramatic things ever
in the history of the NFL Draft.
Speaker 5 (27:07):
I know people who watch just to see the train wreck,
and once he was taken off the board, people kind
of turned off because all the excitement and the lore
and the controversy was therefore gone. But the league has
done a great job of making this one, well, these
three days one of the most sensationalized events in sporting history.
(27:30):
There's not another Draft party or whatever event. That said,
I never sit around said, I want to watch an
NBA draft. Oh no, no, MLB draft, like what, I'll
have it on. No, but I'm not paying attention.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
They're not nearly as compelling.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
And well, part of the reason it's not as compelling
in the first round from Major League Baseball unless you
have a son or a nephew or somebody that lives
next door, we don't know. Even if you're really a
baseball fan, you may have heard of a name or
two in the top five, but we don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
We don't know those those kids' names.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
And even on top of that, they may not be
playing right away either, right like Jackson Holliday a couple
of years ago, right, that was like the name, and
because we know Matt and he still didn't play right away.
Now he's playing now, Yeah, he's a full time player now.
But I mean it it took a little bit and
most of the time, especially in Major League Baseball, and
it's the same for the NBA.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
I mean that the top handful of picks will play,
but there are quite a few that ended up in
the G League and they kind of developed down there
and they bring them up or maybe they're into bench
guys because you already have your starters. It's just the
NFL is built so different because you can find guys
that immediately impact the team all the way into day three.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Where is Darko Milicic?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Where is Darko Milicic.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Speaking of draft choices, high draft choice vacations, maybe didn't
pan out.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Probably enjoying his TURNI farm, Yes, probably Okay, But you
know what.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
The here's the thing about the NFL that that's different
from all the major league professional of the leagues is
that all this starts in high school when we started
rating high school athletes the ESPN Top one hundred, and
then now you're following those blue chip players to respective colleges.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Now you're following them from college.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
Well, which one of these guys were coming out of
high school was a blue trip guy that you can
actually follow, and they build the story so once they
get to the draft, there is a story behind each player.
And the league does, in their partners do a better
job than some of the other professional leagues and building
that story, because when you're watching the draft, it's just
not like a guy a bunch of guys on the
panel talking about teams who should take here and take there.
(29:31):
But now you're playing the stories of these individual players,
and we as people we live by Caresley through those
individuals saying, you know what, I played high school ball
at Pop High. I scored four touchdowns. Right, see, you
didn't get that reference. Okay, thank you. It's about time.
You know, better late than never. But that's the whole
(29:52):
idea they sell that, and this is where baseball and
in basketball they missed out on those.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
I think one of the best stories over the weekend
for the for the NFL Draft, and this may be
from a high school coaches perspective, first first player picked
in the draft coming out of high.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
School was a zero star.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
That's amazing, had no stars, yeah, and had one offer
and it was to a small a smaller school in
San Antonio whose name escapes me.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
I believe he.
Speaker 6 (30:27):
Went there and then transferred to Washington State and then
transferred to Miami. And now it was first picking the draft.
So cam Ward's story is a pretty cool story to follow.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
All right, We are live from SAMs doorby three, Dinner
and Bar in Glendale until six o'clock. Come on Downsey
High to us. We have Nuggets basketball tonight this hour.
Shans one thousand dollars coming up in the next five
minutes thanks to Maverick. You know, one other thing I
was thinking about with that conversation, Dave, is the popularity
of college football I think has also seen some pretty
significant growth. So with standard reason, that's only going to
(31:02):
continue to sort of feed the beast of the NFL.
The college football is now as as accessible and people
are gambling on it, and they're they're enjoying it and
the levels that they are. Would you agree with that sentiment?
Speaker 6 (31:14):
Sure, Yeah, I mean I think I think more people.
I mean, you have college football fans, you have NFL fans,
you have fans of both. But I think because college
football has become so popular that some of the star players,
and I think you know, we as media, I mean
in particular ESPN and Fox and some of those on
(31:38):
a national level do a really good job of highlighting
some of the some of the more well known players
and stories.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
And yeah, I mean this is I mean, the.
Speaker 6 (31:50):
Just the overall feeling I think of love for the
game of football in this country. I don't think it's
ever been higher. I think back to when Mark Cuban,
who at that point was the owner of the Mavericks.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
I mean he basically warned. I would say a longer.
He basically warned and sort of predicted in the warning
that football was about to sort of start to lose
its notoriety and appeal for a number of reasons, concussions
and all sorts.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Of things going on in the game. But that has
not been the case.
Speaker 5 (32:29):
That's a very interesting thing to look at the fact
that I don't want to say that the NFL is
distraction proof because you break up concussions, which was a
huge thing, you know, a couple of years ago, because
that was the main topic of conversation, and I know
the league was worried about their pool of talent drying up,
and he did all these types of things to make
(32:50):
sure that didn't happen. But we're going to see the
growth of football from professional standpoint continue to grow because
once again, it's.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
About star power, high profile players.
Speaker 5 (33:00):
The nil game is changing everything because you go from
watching guys make an abundance of money and college football
to wanting to watch them in the pros, and then
you add sports books with that, and then fantasy sports.
So this is why the infro is going to continue
to grow. And the crazy part is that baseball and
basketball they have the fantasy aspect of it, but not
(33:23):
in this particular way because they do a poor job
of highlighting those particular players. Because think about it, we
don't see a lot of those players until March Madness,
and due to March Madness and a lot of those
Cinderella teams, we don't see those guys anymore because now
they're jumping to much larger teams because of power. Fine,
(33:43):
and if they try to focus on building a story,
then that becomes someone better once they get to the draft.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
But here's the other thing.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
When it comes to postseason awards, no one does it better.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
Than college football.
Speaker 5 (33:59):
Because Heisman Award, that's the biggest war. That's one that
everyone's watching. Tell me, whey they have that in college baseball,
where's that in college basketball? They don't have it?
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Not even close, exactly, not even close. And again we
talked about it the development leagues, if you will, right,
college baseball college basketball, College basketball does a pretty good job,
especially once we get to the tournament, but again compels
the comparison to college football is overall and now that you
have the college football Playoff, which is only going to
add more intrigue into that. I mean again, it just
(34:32):
only continues to sort of build on his stuff. I
think it's a fun conversation, especially as we're seeing some
of these numbers come out, and I think it's just
sort of a an acknowledgment of the direction that we
already knew it was heading, but opposite of what Mark
Cuban predicted about a decade ago. Understandably why but we're
on the other side of this and seeing it nothing
but growth.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
All right.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
When we come back, we want to check out with
Adam mar Is because the Nuggets are playing tonight.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Mikeael Porter Junior.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
By the way, Dave was the player that I was
talking about yesterday.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Came off the bench. He did not get a suspension today,
So that was the player because I was I was like,
there's somebody that did come off the bench. I couldn't
remember who, So nobody got nobody got suspended.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Maybe there's some fines, I think, I think smartly, Yeah,
I agree.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
So we'll talk to him about all that and the
game tonight. Coming up next live from SAMs Number three
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