05-12-25 KOA Sports Hour 2 with Nick Ferguson

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Nick Ferguson, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards with us Jack Corgan's
gon to join us here in about an hour. The
news of the weekend, outside of the Nuggets that, of course,
Broncos practice rookie mini camp, was the decision to fire
Bud Black, the manager of the Rockies. So you'll start
with you here, Nick, I mean, what was your reaction
when you heard the Rockies moved on from Bud Black? Man?

(00:21):
I was pissed off. Oh yeah, yes, I was pissed off.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
And I know Rockies fans like deservely song he should
have been fired, But I'm like, it wasn't all Bud
Black's fault. Like we spoke to Bud Black. We went
Sam's number three. And I think this probably right before
the season started.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
And I told you guys, for me, I'm rooting for
the Rockies and.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I'm rooting for Bud Black because he's under immense amount
of pressure. When you look at how poorly the team
has performed over the past two seasons. It's been problematic.
But the crazy part was that you lose, you give
up three touchdowns essentially twenty one rounds against the Padres.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
You come back the next game him nine to three,
and that's when.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
The Rockies management decided, Oh, this is the perfect time
to part ways but Black.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
It's like, wait a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
And then management releases a statement saying, you know what,
we believe that and this would be paraphrasing, that our
fan base deserves more, this team is capable of more.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I'm like, yeah, this high five that. But what
the hell are you doing in management?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I mean, well, did you give but Black the necessary
players to be competitive? And answer to that question from
my standpoint, you guys are open answering your own is hell. No.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So I didn't like this, Dave, You've had about twenty
four hours or so to think about it. Of course
you reacted to u us on the breaking news segment
we did last night six o'clock. Have you had any
more additional thoughts? And do you agree with Nick? I've
had plenty of thoughts. Okay, you mean about this, honestly,

(01:53):
Gore you want to go. But about Bud Black was
where I specifically was asking, Oh, my bad, H three
or three? No three H three eight eighty three?

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Does Major League Baseball have any way to force an
owner to sell an interest in a franchise if they
continually field the team that is not competitive. The The
quick answer to that is no, they do not. I
know that there have I want to make sure I
say this right. I know that there has been a

(02:24):
group that has had interest that would be available should
the Rockies be for sale. But the answer is from
the Major League Baseball Commissioner's office they cannot force an
owner to sell the team because the team is not winning.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
But the fan base can look at what happened with
the Athletics.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Go tell thirty four thousand people yesterday at Course Field that, well, that's.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
That, and that's the problem. See, the fans in this
case are the problem.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
You keep showing up as long as you so well,
you go to make it easy for them.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Stop me. Stop. We're not shaming fans for wanting to
go spend time at a baseball park.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
And you can go up, you can you want, you
want to play baseball, find some grassy area here in
different Colorado.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's just other than that, you're not going to change
their minds.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
I would say to answer your question, what I thought
about Buddy being fired, and I said it last night
during the segment that I did with you and Ben.
I think Budd is a good baseball man. Now, it's
hard to sort of hard to prove it based on
the fact that his team has lost thirty three times

(03:40):
out of a possible forty games and the last two
years they had over one hundred losses. But if you
look back to his first two years as skipper with
the Rockies, both those years they were in the playoffs,
they lost them think a wild card game, and they
lost in the divisional round to Milwaukee.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yep. But I mean Bud, Bud had.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Some success, you know, with the Padres as well. I
think Budd is a good baseball man. I think he
understands baseball. He played at the major league level, So
I'm a fan of Bud Black That said, No, it
did not surprise me at all, because when you when
you start this poorly, when you are on record, or

(04:28):
we're better phrased, when you are on pace to set
an all time record of futility in terms of number
of wins in a season, I mean you've already fired
the pitching coach. I mean the next guy is the manager.
And Buddy would say, I think if you know, Buddy
could be removed from this situation. I completely get it.

(04:50):
I mean, I completely understand it. At the professional level,
coaches are hired to be fired. I mean, and it's
just a matter of you got to make ay why
you can. You got to win as many games as
you can. It's not always fair. I think Buddy was
not dealt the best of hands the last two or
three years. A number of injuries and the starting rotation

(05:13):
on a staff that is not deep enough to sustain
those type injuries.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
So it's it was a tough deal. Ran.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Let me ask you a question, then, since you figured
though me saying that the fans showing up, that's not
the right direction to go. I mean, you fire the
hitting coach, you fire what black?

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Who else needs to be fired in order to correct
this situation? Who do you fire?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
What?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Many more people? There's an assumption there that if you
eventually fire enough people, it's going to get better, and
I don't believe it that. I don't agree with that either.
So how do you change this around? Yeah? I think
this is an internal look at who you are and
what you've been doing. Certainly, what you're doing is not working.
You had back to back one hundred lost seasons last
two years. You almost hit one hundred lost season just

(05:57):
three years ago at ninety four, and the trajectory of
this team is headed towards another one hundred loss if
not all time loss record this year. There's a bit
of a scapegoat factor here with with but black Bean fired.
So I agree with you on that sentiment. I just
I don't know. I think it's a it's a bad
practice for media and bad and a bad practice anyways,

(06:22):
just to say, hey fans, this is how you should fan,
this is how you should be. You should stop supporting
this product. I just don't believe that if the product
is terrible.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Look, man, you are consumer just like me, Dave and
everyone who's listening.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I respect that there's a product, but you don't tell
that it is a product that's bad.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
You're not gonna keep going back and buying the same
product over and over and expecting something different.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
There are plenty of other things about going to course
Field that have nothing to do with baseball. That is
a great product, and that's why fans go. They don't
go for baseball, they go for the park.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Let's be totally honest, and course fields is a great,
great part, right, So yes, if you want to go,
have a doll and to be.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Here with the kids and hang out. Yes, it's a
perfect place for that.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
But you've shown up, Like Dave said, thirty four thousand
people showed up. So if you management, you're like, well,
what is it that we really need to change? Because
people are going to come no matter what. You know what,
if you build it, there come, and so far that's
what we're seeing here down at Courseview.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Oh, Dave, do you agree with the sentiment that fans
should boycott.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Well, to me, of course, Nick is sitting right here.
That's that's not what I heard Nick say. I think
I think that at the professional level, the only the
only pushback, realistic pushback that fans have in terms of

(07:45):
voicing their disapproval of their direction of whatever particular franchise
we're talking about, is to is to not consume the product.
But I didn't hear him say I hope that fans
stop going to the park, But I think generally speaking,

(08:07):
that's really the only way they either stop watching, they
stop going, they stop consuming buying. I mean, that's the
only way that fans have a legitimate voice in terms
of their Hey, listen, we don't like what's going on

(08:27):
and so until you address what's going on, this is
what we're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
See.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm glad Dave is sitting here and saying what he
said right because you did that Ryan, never wasting no,
And I didn't use the word boycott, but you decided
like a man lib to insert that word into the equation.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Thanks. Ryan. I just feel like Dave was throwing you
a bone out to disagree with everything you said the
first hour. I think Daves just felt bad for you, right, Dave,
you don't have to pity him. As you guys know,
seven and thirty three, they are last in run differential,
their last in runs actually runs against runs scored. They're
actually not last. The Pittsburgh Pirates have scored fewer runs

(09:10):
but runs against two hundred and sixty one runs against
the next closest team I think is at two thirty three.
And I don't know, Dave. I mean we talked about
coming into the season. You think about it in terms
of what what the Rockies path to success this year
was going to have to start with the pitching staff.
If the pitching staff could be decent for the team,

(09:30):
they could at least lean on that. But in fact
they have and I have this here, they have as
a starting rotation as seven nine era, which is of
course last in baseball. Yes, a full run worse than
any other team.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
So I think I think too, I mean to next
point and to my point, So do you blame do
you blame Bud Black for the era of seven point
nine with the starting staff? I think most of us
here would say no, not really do you think? I mean,

(10:10):
do we think it's going to appreciably get better? I
honestly don't know. But here, if I'm if I'm Dick Montfort,
I think I would think about I would think about this.
This is the first year. Now, the last two seasons
have been tough, but this is the first year. And
I'll preface my remark by saying I love baseball, played baseball,

(10:32):
grew up with baseball. M of the generation that is
more likely to watch baseball on a regular basis than
maybe those in their twenties and thirties. That said, this
is the first season that I've got friends of mine,
good friends of mine that are baseball dudes, that there's

(10:52):
just a sense of apathy from they just they're not
following it like they used to. They're just it's like
they don't even exist.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
That's bad.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's and I don't know if Dick looks at it
that way or you know, I mean whatever, But when
you start, even though they had thirty four thousand yesterday,
when you start starting to chip away with that, where
fans are like, eh, it's the Rockies. I mean, when
did the Broncos start? How long can the Nuggets play?
Where we go in July fourth weekend? You want to

(11:27):
take the boat out on Lake Mead. Don't have a boat, honey, Well, okay,
so forget that idea, you know.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So what I'm saying, I mean I.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Sort of get the sense that it's like people are apathetic.
That's the absolute worst thing you can have from your
fan base.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Apathy, Yeah, apathy, you just don't care. You don't care.
It's like whatever, Well, I will say and I agree
with everything you said there. I will say that the
text line we just for a moment talking Rockies in
that last segment, we blew up. People are very passionate
about the Rocky seven were asking the drug test, Nick Ferguson,
But otherwise most of them are very passionate. We did
have a text line, We did have a texture by

(12:06):
the way three or three, two, one, seven guys.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
Until they get a president of baseball operations who Kelly
Staffer was, the team will never be a good baseball organization,
Just that simple. You mean Kelly McGregor Kelly Stoffer was
a quarterback?

Speaker 1 (12:20):
That's c issu.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
By the way, I believe it was the first round
draft choice of the Seahawks, right, I think in the
top I think Kelly Stoffer was drafted in the top
ten of the first round. I think like eight maybe
going way back in whatever pee bring, I have.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Sixth overall, sixth overall nineteen eighty seven. Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Nice work, Ryan, what you're explaining about the text line
being fired up by the Rockies, I can understand the
fan base being so passionate about this ball club. But
because before I think it was nineteen ninety three, when
the Rockies first came here to Denver, they had so
many other teams to roof for.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
It was either the Cards, the Graves, or the Cubs.
So everyone wants their own, and then you get your own,
and you're rooting for your team.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
That's part of who you are, part of growing up
in Colorado.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
And obviously I didn't grow up here.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Growing up in Miami, we didn't have a baseball team, right,
So I grew up watching the Baltimore Ores. That was
a team that was always down at Miami Stadium practicing.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
And that's who I grew up watching. When they left Miami,
I was left in the wilderness of baseball.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
And then I found New York Yankees and I became
a Yankees fan. So I can understand the passion that
the Rockies fans have and they want to be dedicated.
But once again, I go back to that is the
reason that we're not going to see a lot to change, because.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
We know the fan base is desperate for baseball.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
And it's okay to be desperate for baseball, but you
have to deserve more. You have to demand moren If
you don't do that, you're not gonna get it.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
That's what I'm talking about, kit Set, That's exactly right.
You gotta have that mentality survived in the league, right,
you gotta have that mentality surviving radio. You want some,
come get some. Thanks three by Ryan. I don't know
if he was scared. Oh, I like that. I can
see where that went. Yes, I can see yep. So

(14:20):
we're gonna have our official schedule release show on Wednesday night.
Very excited about that over on our sister station CAM
Oh okay sixty k all right, very good. Sorry six o'clock.
But there are schedule leaks coming out leaks, and we
have one here for the Denver Broncos. Now, this is
Perpin all right. The Sun is our NFL insider Broncos.

(14:45):
That was my leak versus Chiefs on Christmas Night. Christmas Night, Thursday,
December twenty.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Sixth I'm not gonna be able to get my Black
Friday spinning, spinning it.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
I thought you was fixing to say something else. I
thought you were. I thought you were to say what.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
A minute, you know what? I thought, seriously what I swear?
I swear to you and it came out of your mouth.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Before complete the sentence.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well, as soon as you said black, I thought you
was fixing to say, I'm trying to figure out I
can get.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
My black ass and then fill in the black Christmas
Black Friday. Okay, yes, okay, I thought to say I
was you thought the same thing I was saying. There
was a million I'm backing off the mic. I'm just like,
let you go to do it, gret were you back

(15:41):
then thinking the same thing to say exactly? Because grants
press show a long time. It's about thousand listeners driving
around like, didn't just say no, say it? Okay? Yeah, wow,
no Black Friday. But that's in November. But I'm still
thinking Black Friday. That's Black Friday, says Christmas Day, Black

(16:02):
Friday in Decid. Hey, people still try to make money.
What you in the in the in the year goes
back to what we thought you were gonna say, because
it makes no sense to talk about Black Friday. Yes,
on December twenty five.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Hey, man, discounts, discounts. You're big on that, yes, and
that are you not? You're not big on discounts. Don't sit,
don't lie, Ryan, don't don't sit. No, don't lie.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
You are not not enough to get up on four
o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I'm not saying you getting at four o'clock in the morning.
I mean the fact that you can go on Amazon
right now, you know, not now, but during that time
of the year and get some deals.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Go and loves deal they you know, have a good deal,
don't you glove deals? See there you go.

Speaker 3 (16:49):
You said you couldn't see it love his face, yea
love Kansas City on Christmas night?

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Oh my god, that is that's not great. Have done
it before. I don't like it. Why you don't like it?
For a multitude reasons. First of all, Arrowhead Stadium. What
do you mean why he don't like it? I'm asking him, well,
what I mean? Seriously? Why don't you think he likes it?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
That's what I'm trying to figure out. I mean, I
had my idea, but it's better if you Christmas right.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yes, this is your black yeah, he talks.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
First of all, you're talking about a guy who's played
on Christmas, that's Christmas Eve and Halloween.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
Why don't you come to the game once you come
to Arrowhead on Christmas Day?

Speaker 1 (17:36):
No? No, no, no, We'll fly in Christmas Eve.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
And then spend Christmas Day and night doing the game,
and then we'll fly home, get home about two o'clock
in the morning.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
You in, Yeah, pay me for it, I'm there, Well
hold on, pay you for radio? Come on and listen.
He asked the questions. You don't pay. I'm answering the question,
so he asked.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
I responded, you better. You better talk to mama. That
would that'd be my suggestion real quick.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Christmas, Earland, not before you go, yeah, go ahead. But
I'm getting paid. Yeah that's right, Yeah, I'm getting paid.
It's a lot better than not getting paid.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
So you can you can somewhat justified, even though you
gotta get some pushback.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
Do you legitimately think that would be her first question?
Absolutely not, absolutely not. You know what, it seems like
it's gonna be a big game. It seems like it's
gonna be a massive game. But yes, Kansas City in
December could be a cold, flipping whiteouts cold, and yeah,
it's gonna be. That's a bad one. That's brutal. I

(18:36):
was fascinated because you know how the NFL does this.
They're you're gonna close the schedule with a certain amount
of games that are meaningful, Right, that's what the NFL does.
They loved this. You're gonna close against the division rival
no matter what you do. So it's gonna be the
Chargers of the Raiders. Now it's gonna be one of
those two games you're gonna be Week eighteen, but this
is gonna be sort of the right before that. So this,
this could be a monumental the game, especially for Sean

(18:57):
Payton who thinks he was gonna win the division this year.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
It's a big game. Okay, here you go, here, here
you go, here you go. Well, right, as has he
said that, yes he did?

Speaker 1 (19:14):
Remember?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Well?

Speaker 3 (19:14):
No, no, no, he's mad, he's he's alluded to the alluded.
I'm just asking for the record. Strive for accuracy, right
f s A s f A has he said? Because
if he has, I want to make sure I join
in as he said publicly, I think we're going to
win the division this year.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
No, he has not into my no further question. No,
he hasn't done that.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
But remember last year after the loss to Buffalo, and
there was a yes he said that, yeah, almost like
they were looking past Buffalo because I was like, hey,
we know.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
We could be getting no question, no, no doubt about that.
I remember that statement for sure. I honestly, I just
want to make sure I had missed something because that
had not been said.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Okay, very good, Well give him a couple of tas.
Maybe he'll frame it well. And if Kay Adams was
actually doing the interview, there you know all those things. Man,
It's amazing how just tweaks him and there changes Yeah,
in front of us he was gonna he's gonna couch
it a little bit more of like.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
Well, we just want to make sure you didn't have
any information that I had missed.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
That was good. Hey, listen, I already got pained for
saying boycott earlier, and now you know, I mean, listen,
we could talk about the Book of Mormon, well, we could.
It was it was really funny. What was the first scene?
It was really funny, fun highly recommend But you got
to go into it knowing the offensive content in there.

(20:47):
And there were a few people in the crowd we
went saw yesterday for Mother's Day that we're not aware
of the sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Would Dame and I be confident going in and sitting
down for well, how long.

Speaker 1 (20:59):
Is this about? A couple of hours? Would we be okay?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
Or what?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
At some point we would have to get up again.
If you know the writers of South Park, if you
know their sense of humor, and you understand that they're
going to be doing some offensive things, then I think
you'd be fine. You just appreciate the sense of humor
of it and understand it has nothing to do with you.
You know you're going straight to hell. Welcome Ryan for now.

(21:30):
Where's the list. No, Yeah, Book Mormon, highly recommend. But
once again, you sort of have to compartmentalize and understand
there's gonna be some offensive things and if you can
live with that, then you'll you'll enjoy it. If you can't, well,
then then finds nothing better to do with your time,
like watch a Rockies game. There you go, Yeah, Rocky's game.

(21:57):
Book of Mormon. Yeah, I had to. I had to watch.
And it was tough because we bought these tickets in months,
months in advance. Right, happens to be at the exact
same time as the Nuggets game. So I'm sitting there.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I can't.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
I didn't. I didn't want to do that. Oh, you
were forced to do it. But but it's the Nuggets. Like,
I'm so's intermission, I'm watching that game, you know, I
mean that's you know, so I'm committed. She gets it,
she gets it, she gets it. Okay. My oldest daughter
was not not impressed, though I like her. Yeah, she

(22:31):
was not. She was like, what are you doing here?
You're taping this? Aren't you go watch it exactly? You know,
the taped games taped live events, don't. I don't know
about you guys, we'll get back on track in a second.
I don't know about you, guys, but I don't like
like rewatching taped games. I'll rewatch the Broncos because we
talked about the Broncos and we do a lot of that,
especially in season. But once I know the outcome, once

(22:53):
I know the score of the final, it was tough.
Rewatching Laesterday's game knowing what was going to happen to
that was brutal.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
I think I think you the only advantage is if
you you can fast forward through everything, right, you want
to go back and watch five, six, seven isolated incidents
in a game, maybe a three three minute stretch in
the third quarter where one team is zero for six,
and I mean so in that regard, I don't know

(23:23):
about going back and watching the game after I've watched
the game in its entirety, including commercials. I don't know
if I would. I've probably done that, but I would
prefer not to do that.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
All of this text sat next to my mother in
law at Book Mormon. She was not impressed with the
show or my laughter. Yes, no, no brownie point there.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
She might not have liked you when you married her daughter.
I'm just saying, yeah, right, So you brought my daughter
to this, that's to you.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
You laughing mighty loud, yeah, yeah, very quickly out of side.
So I brought my teenagers to it, and it is
it is like our material, like it's not, but I
but I prefaced it. I like kind of warned them
on some of the content that was going to be
in it. And so we were listening to it, but
I had sort of forgotten because I've seen it years ago.
I'd forgotten some of the references, and so I had

(24:24):
to do a little bit of like teaching as we
were listening to the music in the car and the
way to school. Over a couple of days, I was like, oh,
by the way, this is what this means, because you
are you at fourteen years old, have no idea because
you haven't experienced that thing. But I'm not going to
say it on the air before you say, Dave, what
is it? What are you saying? Right, I will not
say it on the air, but I will say that

(24:45):
for anybody taking their teenage kids to it. If you
end up doing that, yeah, you probably want to be
familiarize yourself with everything about the show, or just go
to a Rockies game, or just go to a Rockies game.
I hear there really nice this time of year, thirty
eight thousand on Saturday night, when they lost twenty one
nothing in the thirty four thirty four thousand yesterday, that's
you know, And we're gonna talk to Jack Corny on

(25:07):
the top of the hour. You lost twenty one nothing.
And I did watch that game. The miserable experience barely
even touches it. The Rockies look like they wanted to
be anywhere else, like quite literally anywhere. But you're losing
that bad. I can't I can't blame him on that.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Yeah, you know, I like when we were in college,
we lost two games my senior year. One of those
we lost sixty three to twenty one, and we and
we scored first. Oh so, but when your fumbel kickoffs
and all of a sudden, I mean, it's like you
gets to the point where you're like, okay, man, oh man,
this is this is embarrassing. So I'm sure, I mean,

(25:46):
nobody likes to get embarrassed, especially at home.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
It's just it's awful. But if you are a.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Rockies player, how do you get up when you drive
to the ballpark? Knowing as though there have been two
coaches fired already, and you're walking into the building and
you're thinking, Okay, well, what's going to happen today? If
I don't play my best game? Is going to be
another guy, another coach that I like? And just think
about it. There are four coaches who've been fired in
this Denver market one not four coaches, three coaches and

(26:16):
one GM.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
It's like, who's next? So you got to be looking
around if you're.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
In that Rockies organization, thinking about at what point that
they're going to make sure that my key card doesn't
swipe anymore?

Speaker 3 (26:28):
You don't word is that could be talk show hosts
coming next. Could be a lot of them in this town.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
Well if it, you come back in and say, I
was just talking to your bosses, and then you drop
that towards the end of the segment, just well, asymmetry.

Speaker 3 (26:40):
We were talking about what we did over the weekend
and Rockies games got it?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yeah, nice fun. Hey listen, I'm also one of those
talk show hosts. You never know. They don't fire players often, right,
they fire coaches. That's usually the first step. The players
conversation usually happens after the season in The fact is
the Rockies don't have the depth to do much of
anything anyways. Right now. You need everybody you have because
you're too many guys on il, especially guys that you

(27:06):
were counting on this year. They like Blaylock, they sit
back down after that twenty one to nothing. She lacking.
I think you have nine earn or something like that,
but they don't really have many other options. I mean,
they talked about it this seven nine era for the
starting rotation, and they're the worst in baseball. And this
is not something that I thought we would be saying

(27:27):
at any point. Dave let alone, forty games in the season,
they have more errors than any other team. They're They're
bad in every single facet. So again we say Bud
firing Bud Black does not solve anything immediately for the Rockies.
But at the same time, clearly it wasn't what he
was doing wasn't enough either. No.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
I mean, when again, when you've lost thirty three of
your first forty games and you're the manager, or if
like in the NFL, you wouldn't you wouldn't make it
through a streak that long in the NFL, but you
can go. Look, I mean, this was a team that
is prided itself, prided itself in the past on being
a good defensive team, and last year they were a

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much better defensive team.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
So what's what's the reason? I mean, what's the.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Reason now that you're you're you're not playing good defense,
You're giving teams extra outs when you can ill afford
to do so. But the main thing is that there
are probably plenty of reasons why. But it's easier, as
you said, to fire the top guy. It's not. It's why.
I was not surprised at all that they got rid

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of Buddy. I mean, honestly, I and again I say
this from being a fan of Bud in terms of
his baseball acumen and rooting for the.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
Guy, because I liked the guy.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
But I was surprised, frankly that it lasted this long,
given how many games they were winning, how many games
they were losing. By the way, we had a textor
you mentioned that. The text said that I said next
to my mother in law for the Book of Mormon,
and I mentioned she doesn't like you. He texted back
and says, she loves me. It was my wife's birthday gift. No, okay,

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all right?

Speaker 1 (29:02):
And then you brought the mother in law along, which
was also a nice a nice gesture I think smart, Yeah,
maybe more than nice. But then but then did a
backfire because she hated it. The mother in law hated it. Yeah,
and then she started judging you for even that's that's
that's where you blame your wife.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
You know, your daughter, your daughter, This was your daughter's idea.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
See at the end of the day, to go back
to the mother in law, because the only woman in
life that really truly matters is your wife.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
What about your mother what she says? Second, what about
your mother? Yeah, she does matter.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
But the woman you live with and you share bed with,
that's the person who used to think of.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
So you didn't like your mom growing up. That's not
what I said.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I just say, I say, my wife rather important.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
So I got I got two dudes here in the
studio whose wife's legs periodically fit in their janes not necessarily.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
No, no no no, no no no no. You don't say periodically one thousand percent
all the time. Just accepts it as being true.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
No, well, I know it is not true in my case.
If what would she say, she would say the same thing. Yes,
I can call her put on the phone. You did,
I'm sure you did, and she she would definitely agree,
like my wife would not appreciate me if.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I did that. Huh. It was. I mean, what you
do so you like to be kept? I would like
to because.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
What you do what.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
The fight back? But that was that was a beautiful
deflection on your party and I cannot Yeah, it was
like a baseline volley hit right on the money. Yes,
you just heard her, respect it and you move on.
That's right, Matt's winner. Yes, yes, well full time. All right,
we'll be right back. Jack Corgan is going to join
us next