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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Another abbreviated program today is the Rockies are in Washington,
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d C. Taking on the Nationals streaking of course, got
two in a row, a big win over the alant
of Braves to close out that series on Sunday, and
then a big win last night with Hudter Goodman hitting
a couple of home runs and a resounding win for
our Colorado Rockies. We'll see if they could keep it
going tonight. I feel pretty dang good about it. Nationals
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are an okay team. Rockies are not, but they're improving. Clearly,
by the trajectory of things, they were an improving team.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Wouldn't you agree, Dave. They're on a two game heater.
You got pink Frosty here. I stopped to.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Get you a stopped to get you a cupcake, and
I couldn't carry. I mean, I've got really good hands,
still gonna help you by napkins. I couldn't carry. I
couldn't get the door open, the pass code. I've got
pink Frosty everywhere all over.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thank you. That is awesome, man, Thank you so much.
You know, no judgment. I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I appreciate I've got one for you.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, we absolutely absolutely, although I was reminded today was
national I.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't think, oh thank you, it's a pea pig. What
if the.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Cartoon the yeah it's for a little little yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Anyways, for our show, I haven't gone. Yeah, it's good.
Shout out to Caroline Perry by the way, good good friend. Yeah. No,
I'm enjoying.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's Eat your vegetables Day apparently. Well, so this is close.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's it's it's that's sort of guy, it's what kind
of cupcake?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Would that be?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
A sugar based I don't know, not sugar based cupcakes,
not a meat based that's right, So you're you're safe.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm safe.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So yes, I would say the Rockies, yeah, two game heater.
I'm counting. That is the longest win streak of the year,
isn't they swept?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
They swept in Florida's Miami.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, good, good for them, and and they did so
in come from behind fashion. So listen, we've we've had
we've had plenty of gallows humor on this show about
the Rockies, because really, I mean, even though we are
at the home of the Rockies, what in the actual
hell do you expect from us? So I mean, we've
we've done the best we can do, folks, But it
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is nice. I watched bits and pieces of that game
last night. Did have to turn over when the ninth inning.
I turned back to the game when the ninth inning started,
They're down four to three, and lo and behold, here we.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Go, there we go. And that was his second. Believe
that was his second Yeah, it was. It was tremendous.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And think about it again, Rockies fans, don't or just
anybody listening right now, don't throw things at me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
They're getting off two leads. Are you noticing this sort
of trend that they're on now they lose? No, no,
I'm gonna stop you, right, Okay, hold on, this is
a little bit of a silver linings. No, okay, I'm
from No. I'm trying to see some optimistic signs.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, now, if you, if you, if you were a female,
you would have gone to the prom with the ugliest
boy in the class. And the fact that you what,
he was like five or six, No, the fact that
you had a good time I think is terrific. But
he you know, he's still the ugliest boy in the class.
So not that you know what he deserves, love to well, so,
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but he's he you know, he didn't turn in. He
didn't turn into Brad Pitt simply because you went to
prom with him, right.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So it's sure what to do with that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I know exactly where you're going with when I say
in a moral victory sense, I understand this name moral
victory and professional sports.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Most people don't want to talk about moral victory. No,
especially in a sports talk show.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
He understood, understood.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But but for me, when you are at the basement, Yeah,
and there seems to be no hope, sometimes moral victories
is all you can start with.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, we're not we're throwing moral victories out. They are
on a two game heater, okay, and we can you
know what, damn it Hill. We can feel good about that.
We can feel good that the Rockies the one two
in a row, and who knows. I am fully interested.
I'm also going to watch Florida and Edmonton today, but
I'm fully interested in what the Rockies do tonight.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I think Florida closes it out.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Is that is that our Florida?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So no, no, no, don't tell me your pick. I
don't want to.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I know that we have some more. You just asked me,
do I think Florida closes it out? How can I tell?
How can I not tell you my pick? If I
answer that?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But cheating?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Like, seriously, you guys are cheating like crazy on this content.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's it's Florida minus one and a half.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You could win by one, like, so you could say,
I think Florida wins it tonight, and that's all you
tell me because they can one.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, and then you're picking up a mints.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I do think Florida wins, Yes I do.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I do too, Yes, I do, but but I don't.
I don't know by how much I give you. You know,
you know, we'll see. I'm gonna show your hand too quick.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Maybe the pink cupcake will help me. Do you ever
play blackjack when you go to Vegas? I love blackjack?
It's my game. Yeah, Oh it's your game. Well, it's
your jam. I'm not great at it, it's just the
game I love. Well, why would you play if you're
not great at it?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What I play it well enough that I can kind
of hang in there and not lose all my money
fast versus other games where I feel like I lose
my money really fast. So I guess I always go
into the mindset because it is quote unquote gambling.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
All right, let me just let me just say this.
I'm the dealer. Here's your hand. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
This will tell me a lot about you in the
game of blackjack that you say that you play a lot.
All right, I just dealt you a pair of nines,
a pair of nines, and I, the dealer, have an
eight showing what do you do?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh? I don't you already know what I'm gonna do? Well,
I really don't. I'm gonna stay, You're gonna stay. I'm
gonna see that. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Why you would you would not split nines against an eight?
You'd have to you split nines. That's why they call
it gambling.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, because you go up.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Did you go out there just to push? Did you
go out there to have a good time to get
a free buffet?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I cut my losses that I played for the next hand.
But you're you're probably right. I price split eight against everything. No, Okay,
you should I should. Okay, well, maybe I should be
listening to you. Maybe you can help coach me on
these kinds of things. I tend to look at that
and say, look, this show's a push that's probably gonna.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Be good enough.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And then the odds are they may not have a
face card or a ten underneath there, and and there's
a possibility that I went with a bust. True, that's
my mindset. Yeah, versus would I hit and then I
get a three in a two?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Would you if you well sevens again? A seven? Yeah,
you got to hit that. You say split it though
your your I.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Would tend to split it. And I'm gonna show you
a picture okay later on off the air.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I think you have to do something. I mean, that's
if they're showing a seven and you're got so you have.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
To do something my last one okay, Okay, dealer has
a six and you have an ACE six.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm off seventeen.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm saying you absolutely, like one hundred percent, cannot stay
on that. No, because the dealer has a six, you
have to you have to double that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, you'd want to double.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I would if you had your customary five dollars, bet
I would push another five dollar chip out there, even
if I had to bear hug you, and I would
say to the dealer, we're doubling.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay. See once again, you see where anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who plays black jacket out there, please feel free to
text five six six nine zero. If you're playing let's
say at the Monarch or any anywhere up in the
mountains great spots to play, or in Vegas or Atlantic
City or whatever. And you have an ACE six and
the dealer has a six, or the dealer has a
four or five or six, the correct play is to
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double that. Please confirm at five six six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I feel like I learned a lot today. Honestly, I'm
trying to help you make money.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, I'm great unless you have all the money you need,
which I mean if you do good.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
For you, that's good for you. I'm not going to
pretend if you're working here at iHeart just because you
enjoy sports talk. You know you like talking. Yeah, this
is one of those things. But I like blackjack.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's a fun game. It is a fun gay. But
as you can see, I'm I'm not going to pretend
like I'm a professional. I'm here to help you. You did,
I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I think the biggest one there was the nin I
think that's where I need to that's a little.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Bit of an aggressive move. Yeah, but here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
If the dealer has four, five, or six, you do
everything you possibly can to get as much money on
the table as you can on.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
One click thing on this before we move on. So
if they're showing a six, though, they have to hit.
And if I hit on a soft seventeen, then I'm
taking maybe a face card that they were gonna use
that was gonna bust them.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well theoretically that is true. And if the rest of
the take you're gonna get watching, you're gonna hit soft
seventeen against what if she had a face card, would
she hit soft seventeen?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes? Absolutely? Okay, So I mean you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Hit soft seventeen on almost every You're gonna hit soft
almost everything except except like soft twenty nine. Then if
they've got an eight shown, you're not you're not taking
a card ace eight. If they've got a seven shown,
you're not taking a card. But most times you're gonna
hit soft whatever. I'm here to help you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I want to see how the text line goes because
I know we have a bunch of degenerate gamblers that
actually listen to the show from time to time. Some
of those are working out of Greenwood athletic club as
we speak.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Ryan, should I have blake blackjack? Ever? Wow? So that's
not we're not here to. We're not here to. No.
I mean I actually tend to make money at it.
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, just three O three nine four nine writes three
words double double double.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yep, this shows what a cheap I'm cheap because I
won't split the nine on this.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I love this one, Ryan, I'm gonna I'm gonna guess
you'll love this text as well. From the seven one
to nine, nine to sixty three. Coach, you would be
the worst m effort to sit next to and they
spelled it out by the way, to sit next to
you at the blackjack table. I'm not a gambler, but
I hate when somebody else tells me how to lose
my money at the table, and you are intimidating all
the love. I'm trying to help you make money seven
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one nine, I'm trying to help you make money. I
want to take the money from those who have it. Yeah,
fairly common thing.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You're playing against the house. You're not playing at the
people enough big buildings out there. But if you're sitting
at a table with other.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
People, no, I mean unless the person unless the person
like looked over and said what do I do here?
Which I will periodically just to make sure, like if
i've you know, you get a good dealer and you've
got deuces and she or he's got a three showing,
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and then they actually just.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Look it up.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
The book says do So I'm gonna more times than not,
I'm gonna play by the book.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay, all right, Well, I appreciate the perspective.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I also appreciated the text is telling me that I
should not play blackjack and that I have no business sitting.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
At them right, don't listen to them.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It makes me happy, and whether I lose money or not,
and actually typically, especially when I go play the video
blackjack usually pretty good for that. But yeah, that's all right,
we have ultras fun stuff to get to again. But
for abbreviated show. Let's talk a little bitbout the NBA Finals.
Last night, when I'm starting to wonder at the Rockies.
By the way, one three in a row they.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Have not okay, one they have, but not not currently.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I saw the text somebody said that this is the
fourth and I no, no, no, they've actually screwed that up. Yeah,
they beat the Land on Sunday, and they beat Washington.
They've won three of their last five, if you want
to sort of exclude those two Atlanta games that they
lost twelve to four and four to one. So I'm
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starting to wonder, and we're still waiting on the official
word on Tyre's Halliburton's Mriri of his calf strain.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But he looked brutal last night, would it be? I
guess you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Really want to go down this road if you're the
Pacers in a must win game and you got to
have this one, obviously the.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Series is over. Should you bench Tyrese Haliburton?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, because you're all about death, because you're you, You've.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Been saying that, you've been preaching it, you've been showing it.
You were all about death. Should you binch?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I think Ray Carlisle, who I really think is one
of the most underrated coaches we have in the NBA,
I think he was in a tough spot last night.
So when Haliburton goes down and then he goes in
the locker room, I mean I'm assuming most I mean,
even on the high school level, when that player comes out,
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the head coach wants to hear from the medical staff like, how.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is he all right? What? So is he good to go? Well?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I think so it was good to go. It's got
a little bit of a pull, I mean whatever. And
then I mean, he arguably is is your most prolific player.
He's a guy that I mean, he's he's a clutch,
clutch player, especially down the end of the end of
the game. So, but at the start of the third quarter,
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insert TJ and you know, he looks like this world's
version of Bob Coosey. I mean, he's dribbling by guys,
he's banking shots in, he's getting shots off on a
head fake. He's got the perfect old man's YMCA game,
except he's not old. He's a pretty good athlete. You
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know what he does. He gets such good height when
he gets to like that ten foot range sort of jumps.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
He's just a really smart, tough, competitive player. And he
had a going I mean he's not even a three
point shooter. He not a three pointer in. So at
that point, you know, what.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
There were two instances in the second half when Haliburton
came back in and where I said, he's not right right,
he passed up two opportunities after the ball had entered
the post, kicked and then the swing, and he's got
a wide open shot from three point range twice, and
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two times he made an extra pass to a guy
that didn't even get a shot off. And so I'm
thinking he that that tells me for a guy that's
really a great shooter, he really wasn't feeling it. Uh,
And I didn't think he wanted to shoot, and I
think I think Oak City figured out he didn't want
to shoot either, So that that's a tough one. So
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to answer your question, I mean, if he can't go,
if he's so limited offensive.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
If he looks a lot like he did last night.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Then then I'm I'm not going to use him very
much and I'm going to play now. I do think
with TJ McConnell that I do think it's a little
bit like great backup players. I think there's they can
bring you a spark, they can hit some shots, they're tough,
they'll take a charge.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean they do.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They do a lot of good things, and then there's
a there's a point in time that if you play
them too much, there's a law of diminishing returned. Right
then they start to get exposed for the reasons that
they're a backup player. So I mean Ki McConnell play
thirty five minutes and score twenty five point is he
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does he had that kind of capability. I don't know,
but I would I would defer to him if Helliburton
is hampered.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I think what you just said a moment ago kind
of perfectly sums it up for me. Passing up shots,
passing up two big ones. And that's not how I
picked Indiana on the show. And it was after Siakim
hit a three pointer. It's a two point game. Eight
is to go in the fourth quarter, turn the game.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm thinking, you know what this one looks like and
smells like Game one?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I mean oak City in Game one had a fifteen
point fourth quarter lead, and then they started to tighten up.
And I could see Oak City tightening up on offense
last night too, And then the key to that they
came down that next possession. They kicked it and Jason
Williams hit a three pointer knock him back up by five.
But that game was there for Indiana. They just when
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they had to have a guy like Haliburton, he just
was not available.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And honestly, that would be the scenario, as we've seen
multiple times throughout this playoffs, is that you get it
within striking distance. I mean, they were down eighteen at
one point, got it within two in the fourth quarter,
and you got to think for OKAC, I mean that
certainly the crowd was feeling it.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You're tightening things up a little bit there. Sure, as
you talked about the the pucker factor.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, poo, Ryan Pooterjole gets puckered and it's h it's
a bugger.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It's tough, but ye're right. Jayleen Williams was on one
last night. SGA had some really great moments as well.
I mean, you got seventy one combined from those two players,
and it's gonna be tough to really beat them if
they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I just I just wanted to I'll not name him,
but I just had a text from a good friend
of mine, who is, you know, like most of us,
a digener at gambler, and my friend said, Ryan's a
worse player than me.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh wow, first of all, he's not.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
He is.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He's a pretty good player. He's a pretty smart player.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So yeah, uh, well, and there's people coming to my
defense here for.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Where are they? Where are they? Who are they? I
play like I play like Ryan as well, also coming
to your defense.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
That just means there's other people that like to give
them money like you apparently do.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
They say, don't split a winner.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well, now like if you've got two kings, I'm never
splitting that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, why would you even?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You know, if the dealer has six four or five six,
I'm never split in two face cards.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So we agree on Well, but you gave me a
scenario nines. Yeah it was nine eight and they're showing
an eight.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, because because I figure I can get nineteen twice. No,
now I think split n eight are Yeah, I would say, yeah,
I would say you can look at that and say,
I don't know. I mean I feel like I've got
to push.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I gotta push. And if they turn over like
a four and they.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Didn't go to Vegas to push, you didn't go for
the free you know, but you know what it's so
interestingly enough, Yeah, I think the buffet you can eat.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I think I go for the experience. I want to
have a good time and I want to sit there
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And I used to go for the free drinks. Now
a little bit less than that now as it got
gotten older. But when I was younger, like my twenties,
is like they're gonna do free drinks all night.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah that, Yeah, there was something to be said about that.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I could just sit here, yeah and drink rum
and coke all night. I mean, oh, this is great. Yeah,
five dollars, here we go, five dollars. Wait, I gotta
push on this one. Fantastic, I'll get another one.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, Okay, So there was a time when that mattered
to me. Now it's just it's it's kind of more
about the experience. I just don't want to lose all
of it right away. And then they're like I'm walking
around with yeah, nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We got to uh, we gotta leave tonight. We're supposed
to stay for two days.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I know, but I know, but and I.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Got like, I like Chevy Chase, I'm gonna go to
the ATM and cash out.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That so great though, That movie is so great.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And then when he goes to the U that one
casino where there's like guessing numbers, he's like seven too, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Movie Vegas Vacation. Okay, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
One of the greatest of the greatest of all time.
And Chevy Chase is that like peak performance. I mean,
I don't know of all the great Chevy Chase movies.
And we could get into whether you want to talk
about the.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Vegas vacation is after vacation, right it is? Yeah, I
think it's the third one because European European vacation. Yeah,
and then I think that was the third one. Caddy
Shack is way up there. Alzheimer, Great, it's all right,
we come back. I have this, really I think a
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fun Broncos offensive conversation. I want to get into with
you specifically on how they can sort of level up
this next year.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm gonna see if you agree with me on it.
All right, get to it next.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
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Speaker 3 (21:28):
Maybe maybe we get a sponsor and we have Blackjack
tips with David Ryan, like once a month.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm in you know what I mean. But I think
they would have to be like the asterisk of may
gambling problem call text Thank you, Tom, thank you. Yeah,
it'd be like, well this is what I would do,
and the day would be like.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Oh my god, no, play the disclaimer again. Listen to Tom.
I love Tom's voice.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Gambling them caller text one A hundred gambler, like when
he when he goes out to dinner. Let's just say
it goes to Eddie V's or Shanahan's. Anyone wants to
order filet mignon. You think you think it's that voice?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Gambling problem caller text one eight hundred gambler. How would
you get her a stake like that? Just like like
a filame?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean with.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oscar, I know, like he's uh rare, he's such a
good guy, such a good guy. I love that drop
and uh yeah, perfectly time.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But you know I I would do that with you,
just as long as it's been understood that I certainly
do this much more for the enjoyment of its rather
than But you're.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You're there to win. I gues you have sort of
a communistic bent. Somebody already, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Really, it's like you're you're You're not there, you're thereness
to have fun.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You're there, you're trying to win their money, because damn
sure they're trying to win yours.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I already assume my money is lost. No, you can.
We cannot go in to battle with that sort of mind.
We can't. It's gambling for a reason, Dave. But the gambling,
yes it is. I didn't say they were. But you
still have a chance to win.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You have to try to maximize because they have a
much better chance, especially in black check.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, much better chance to win. I tried to win.
I just acknowledge that I probably won't.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, then hit Soft seventeen every time, every time, every time,
and I still think you have a four or five
six showing and you bet your five. Let's just say
you've maxed your bet. Let's say you have ten dollars
can bet and you have Soft seventeen and they have
a four or five six. Please, even if you have
to borrow it to put another ten dollars out there for.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You next time. Thank you, I will, thank you. I will.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
This week, Warren Shafer put out this really cool or
sorry worry Sharp Warrant Sharp put out this really cool
stat he was talking about seventy yard or more touchdown
drives last year. So seventy yard or more touchdown drives
last year and the Bronx those numbers, it's kind of
in the medium area of this thing. They're not at
the very high end. There's something that is very notable
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about the teams that are on the high end. We'll
get to that in a second. They had twenty three
of them last year, which is just for short of
Kansas City, So they're kind of right in the mix.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Seventy yard any score or seventy yard touchdown. Okay, seventy
yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Drives, so basically like either a punt that pinned you
deep right or you're from kickoff.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So they had twenty three, and I was curious because
I wanted to go back and look at how that
compared to last year, was Russell Wilson and even two
years ago with Nathaniel Hackett, just to see what those
numbers look like. So they had twenty three this last.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Year, I would say they're not it would not be
a lot different.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
You're right, You're absolutely right. Twenty two in twenty twenty three,
so pretty much the same. And then actually, now if
we exclude the Jerry Rossberg two games, it would be
sixteen with Nathaniel Hackett, so quite a bit of a dip.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, somebody's gotta win this game.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But then you got five with Jerry Rossberg when they'd
fired the coach, and you know, there's all the we're
just moving on and all those kinds of things. But anyways,
the point of it is is actually not that far off.
But I found interesting about this more than anything. Though
Detroit had forty six, they doubled up the Broncos in
seventy yard touch seventy yard and more touchdown drives. Baltimore
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had forty four. There's something in those two teams kind
of in common.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Do you know what it is?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I'm gonna I'm gonna guess, Well, it's a lot more
simple than I'm gonna guess. They were in the top
percent of teams that had plays on offense of more than.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Forty five yards. You know, they actually might be you
could be right about that. I was going to talk
about that.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
They're two of them more prolific running teams, teams that
have of success running the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They're also tremendous red zone teams.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Right, I think top three if you and that makes
some sense to me if you go back and look
on those seventy yard plus touchdown drives, I would be
interested in seeing, like, what's the what's the biggest play
of those particular twenty three drives. And my guess would
be it would it would be more than you know,
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a nine yard run. You're gonna to have that kind
of drive more times than not. You get one big play,
whether whether it's a you know, sixty eight yard touchdown
or like the Cleveland game when Judy gets loose and
nobody's covering him and then the Broncos come back and
bow knicks from ninety three yards out hits Marvin Mims.
(26:47):
You have to have the ability to get chunk yards
and that's something that I think the Broncos have increased
their ability to do so in the offseason. It's only
on pay and I get it, but I think with Dobbins,
with Harvey and with Evan ingram yep, I think those
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three guys give you better ability than what they had
last year to.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Get those type plays.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I mean, the le Broncos scored a total of four
hundred and twenty five points. But we're comparing to say,
Baltimore scored five hundred and eighteen, Buffalo, who had who
had thirty four of those kinds of drives, had five
hundred and twenty five points, and then was a Detroit
a five to sixty four, which led the NFL. And
those are the top three teams. So the point of
it is is not that the Broncos have to be
those kinds of teams, but what it does for not
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only the I think the strength and the ability to
score points and win games on offense, but also what
it does to help your defense out. If you can
sustain drives, if you can put together and you're right,
some of them are explosive drives and it's just going
to be two or three.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Plays and you're you're already in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
But a lot of those for me strike as when
I think about the rushing attack of Baltimore and Detroit,
I think about the way they can stain and they
can put together long, just sol crushing drives on offense
that totally take any kind of momentum away from your opponent,
and that for me is another level for this offense.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
As we have a conversation a bit yesterday about the offense.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Maybe the Broncos offense is already in the conversation to
being the best in the AFC West.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is another level for them. Yeah, I think that's
that's probably fair.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I think if you, I mean, if you really want
to simplify it, and it's not this simple, but I
think for the sake of the discussion, we simplify it
and say, if you can run the ball with efficiency,
and you're effective enough on the ground that you limit
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how much a defense, how much your opponent can play
shell coverage on you, whether it's Cover two or Cover
four with two safeties lined up playing half the field,
and if you get single safety high, it limits what
sort of coverages the defense can run. And it stands
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to reason that you're going to be able to throw
the ball much more effectively. And I've said this before
at any level of football, if a team goes into
a game and they say we're playing Cover two or
Cover four the whole game, and we're good enough upfront
that will stop the run.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
If what they say in that regard is true, you're.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Gonna have a long, long day on offense because those
coverages can literally take your wide receivers out of the game.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It makes it much more difficult to throw the ball,
which is.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Why I'm looking forward to seeing if Sean Payton is
sincere about wanting to be more effective with the ground game,
it can put them in the level of these teams.
I'm not going to sit here and try to say
the Broncos are about to go to Baltimore Ravens level
of offensive production, or the Buffalo Bills with Josh Allen,
who is the reigning MVP. I don't know if we're
quite an that conversation yet, but it's to say that
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if you can start winning games on offense, it's going
to change your margins entirely. Like up to this point,
it's been like, Hey, if the offense is a good
day here and there, like they did eat Tampa Bay, right,
you don't need as much from the defense.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's great. That's nice to have.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What would it be like to live in a world
which we did when Peyton Manning was here, where the
offense would carry games for you at times and you
know the defense is good enough, but the offense can
do that too.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, I think that's the next step I think to
see this offense evolve into a really even more so
explosive offense. The difference between Baltimore and Buffalo is, I
mean one of the biggest differences. You have quarterbacks that
when the play caller, the play designer is looking at them,
(30:47):
there will be designed quarterback runs. You can do that
with bon Nicks and maybe like a Justin Herbert, but
you can't do it to the level. You wouldn't want
to do it. You wouldn't do it to the level
of the Ravens and the Bills.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
The Ravens do it because they've got one of the
greatest athletes to ever play the position at quarterback and oh,
by the way, he can throw the ball too.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The Bills do it, I think for similar reasons.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
And you've got a six', five two hundred and forty
five pound athlete that can throw it in a great,
way but he's he's tough to bring, down so you
can sort of roll the dice and design stuff that
even quarterback, counters i, mean quarterback. Powers you don't want
to do that on a regular basis with Bo nix
Or Justin herbert or a bunch of Other Joe, burrow
(31:36):
you just don't want to do that type. Thing pooter
talking nothing, Better and everybody knows what a puckered pooter
feels like because and don't act like you don't if
you're driving nine to twenty. Five you, KNOW i, mean
for differing. Reasons but everybody out there has had.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It it applies to so many walks of, life, yes
sports specifically every single, time no. DOUBT i wonder what
the pucker factor for The Edmonton oilers is going to be.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
TONIGHT i THINK.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I think For edmonton to win, THIS i, mean this
is no earth shattering, news but their goalie play has
got to be, better no, doubt, RIGHT i, mean the
goalie play has been sub par for the most, part
AND i Think, florida you know, WHAT i Think florida
has exhibited just a little more grit and. Toughness AND i,
(32:32):
THINK i, MEAN i Think, edmonton you, know people all
Over conor. McDavid i think he's got one goal in the,
series BUT i mean he's been really he's been really
good at finding.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Guys he's had some shots off the.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Post so if one of those goes, in, YEAH i
MEAN i Think edmonton will come out and play their
butts off whether it's good enough or.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
NOT i don't.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Know a couple of games ago where they got three
in the first And, thenton, yeah they lost that game
at four. Overtime so it's been a weird, series but
it should be exciting. Tonight playoff Hockey Stanley Up finals always, great,
yup you know it's also great The. Rockies The rockies
are on a, roll two game.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Heater that's the. Greatest that does it for us when
we be back tomorrow at three.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
O'clock For Dave, Logan Ryan, edward thank, you grank great
job as, Always rockies.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Baseball coming up next To, washington D. C take it
on The nationals on k away chick you dig the
long ball for good
Another abbreviated program today is the Rockies are in Washington,
(00:03):
d C. Taking on the Nationals streaking of course, got
two in a row, a big win over the alant
of Braves to close out that series on Sunday, and
then a big win last night with Hudter Goodman hitting
a couple of home runs and a resounding win for
our Colorado Rockies. We'll see if they could keep it
going tonight. I feel pretty dang good about it. Nationals
(00:25):
are an okay team. Rockies are not, but they're improving. Clearly,
by the trajectory of things, they were an improving team.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Wouldn't you agree, Dave. They're on a two game heater.
You got pink Frosty here. I stopped to.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Get you a stopped to get you a cupcake, and
I couldn't carry. I mean, I've got really good hands,
still gonna help you by napkins. I couldn't carry. I
couldn't get the door open, the pass code. I've got
pink Frosty everywhere all over.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Thank you. That is awesome, man, Thank you so much.
You know, no judgment. I think it's great.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
I appreciate I've got one for you.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Okay, we absolutely absolutely, although I was reminded today was
national I.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Don't think, oh thank you, it's a pea pig. What
if the.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Cartoon the yeah it's for a little little yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Anyways, for our show, I haven't gone. Yeah, it's good.
Shout out to Caroline Perry by the way, good good friend. Yeah. No,
I'm enjoying.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's Eat your vegetables Day apparently. Well, so this is close.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's it's it's that's sort of guy, it's what kind
of cupcake?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Would that be?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
A sugar based I don't know, not sugar based cupcakes,
not a meat based that's right, So you're you're safe.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
I'm safe.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So yes, I would say the Rockies, yeah, two game heater.
I'm counting. That is the longest win streak of the year,
isn't they swept?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
They swept in Florida's Miami.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Well, good, good for them, and and they did so
in come from behind fashion. So listen, we've we've had
we've had plenty of gallows humor on this show about
the Rockies, because really, I mean, even though we are
at the home of the Rockies, what in the actual
hell do you expect from us? So I mean, we've
we've done the best we can do, folks, But it
(02:33):
is nice. I watched bits and pieces of that game
last night. Did have to turn over when the ninth inning.
I turned back to the game when the ninth inning started,
They're down four to three, and lo and behold, here we.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Go, there we go. And that was his second. Believe
that was his second Yeah, it was. It was tremendous.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
And think about it again, Rockies fans, don't or just
anybody listening right now, don't throw things at me.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
They're getting off two leads. Are you noticing this sort
of trend that they're on now they lose? No, no,
I'm gonna stop you, right, Okay, hold on, this is
a little bit of a silver linings. No, okay, I'm
from No. I'm trying to see some optimistic signs.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah, now, if you, if you, if you were a female,
you would have gone to the prom with the ugliest
boy in the class. And the fact that you what,
he was like five or six, No, the fact that
you had a good time I think is terrific. But
he you know, he's still the ugliest boy in the class.
So not that you know what he deserves, love to well, so,
(03:37):
but he's he you know, he didn't turn in. He
didn't turn into Brad Pitt simply because you went to
prom with him, right.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
So it's sure what to do with that.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I know exactly where you're going with when I say
in a moral victory sense, I understand this name moral
victory and professional sports.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Most people don't want to talk about moral victory. No,
especially in a sports talk show.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
He understood, understood.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But but for me, when you are at the basement, Yeah,
and there seems to be no hope, sometimes moral victories
is all you can start with.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, we're not we're throwing moral victories out. They are
on a two game heater, okay, and we can you
know what, damn it Hill. We can feel good about that.
We can feel good that the Rockies the one two
in a row, and who knows. I am fully interested.
I'm also going to watch Florida and Edmonton today, but
I'm fully interested in what the Rockies do tonight.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I think Florida closes it out.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Is that is that our Florida?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So no, no, no, don't tell me your pick. I
don't want to.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I know that we have some more. You just asked me,
do I think Florida closes it out? How can I tell?
How can I not tell you my pick? If I
answer that?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
But cheating?
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Like, seriously, you guys are cheating like crazy on this content.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's it's Florida minus one and a half.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You could win by one, like, so you could say,
I think Florida wins it tonight, and that's all you
tell me because they can one.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Yeah, and then you're picking up a mints.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I do think Florida wins, Yes I do.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
I do too, Yes, I do, but but I don't.
I don't know by how much I give you. You know,
you know, we'll see. I'm gonna show your hand too quick.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Maybe the pink cupcake will help me. Do you ever
play blackjack when you go to Vegas? I love blackjack?
It's my game. Yeah, Oh it's your game. Well, it's
your jam. I'm not great at it, it's just the
game I love. Well, why would you play if you're
not great at it?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
What I play it well enough that I can kind
of hang in there and not lose all my money
fast versus other games where I feel like I lose
my money really fast. So I guess I always go
into the mindset because it is quote unquote gambling.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
All right, let me just let me just say this.
I'm the dealer. Here's your hand. What do you do?
Speaker 3 (05:42):
This will tell me a lot about you in the
game of blackjack that you say that you play a lot.
All right, I just dealt you a pair of nines,
a pair of nines, and I, the dealer, have an
eight showing what do you do?
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Oh? I don't you already know what I'm gonna do? Well,
I really don't. I'm gonna stay, You're gonna stay. I'm
gonna see that. Here we go.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Why you would you would not split nines against an eight?
You'd have to you split nines. That's why they call
it gambling.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Yeah, because you go up.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Did you go out there just to push? Did you
go out there to have a good time to get
a free buffet?
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I cut my losses that I played for the next hand.
But you're you're probably right. I price split eight against everything. No, Okay,
you should I should. Okay, well, maybe I should be
listening to you. Maybe you can help coach me on
these kinds of things. I tend to look at that
and say, look, this show's a push that's probably gonna.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Be good enough.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And then the odds are they may not have a
face card or a ten underneath there, and and there's
a possibility that I went with a bust. True, that's
my mindset. Yeah, versus would I hit and then I
get a three in a two?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Would you if you well sevens again? A seven? Yeah,
you got to hit that. You say split it though
your your I.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Would tend to split it. And I'm gonna show you
a picture okay later on off the air.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I think you have to do something. I mean, that's
if they're showing a seven and you're got so you have.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
To do something my last one okay, Okay, dealer has
a six and you have an ACE six.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
I'm off seventeen.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I'm saying you absolutely, like one hundred percent, cannot stay
on that. No, because the dealer has a six, you
have to you have to double that.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, you'd want to double.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
I would if you had your customary five dollars, bet
I would push another five dollar chip out there, even
if I had to bear hug you, and I would
say to the dealer, we're doubling.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Okay. See once again, you see where anybody.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Who plays black jacket out there, please feel free to
text five six six nine zero. If you're playing let's
say at the Monarch or any anywhere up in the
mountains great spots to play, or in Vegas or Atlantic
City or whatever. And you have an ACE six and
the dealer has a six, or the dealer has a
four or five or six, the correct play is to
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double that. Please confirm at five six six nine zero.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I feel like I learned a lot today. Honestly, I'm
trying to help you make money.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Yeah, I'm great unless you have all the money you need,
which I mean if you do good.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
For you, that's good for you. I'm not going to
pretend if you're working here at iHeart just because you
enjoy sports talk. You know you like talking. Yeah, this
is one of those things. But I like blackjack.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It's a fun game. It is a fun gay. But
as you can see, I'm I'm not going to pretend
like I'm a professional. I'm here to help you. You did,
I'm here to help.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I think the biggest one there was the nin I
think that's where I need to that's a little.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Bit of an aggressive move. Yeah, but here's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
If the dealer has four, five, or six, you do
everything you possibly can to get as much money on
the table as you can on.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
One click thing on this before we move on. So
if they're showing a six, though, they have to hit.
And if I hit on a soft seventeen, then I'm
taking maybe a face card that they were gonna use
that was gonna bust them.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
Well theoretically that is true. And if the rest of
the take you're gonna get watching, you're gonna hit soft
seventeen against what if she had a face card, would
she hit soft seventeen?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Yes? Absolutely? Okay, So I mean you're gonna.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Hit soft seventeen on almost every You're gonna hit soft
almost everything except except like soft twenty nine. Then if
they've got an eight shown, you're not you're not taking
a card ace eight. If they've got a seven shown,
you're not taking a card. But most times you're gonna
hit soft whatever. I'm here to help you.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I want to see how the text line goes because
I know we have a bunch of degenerate gamblers that
actually listen to the show from time to time. Some
of those are working out of Greenwood athletic club as
we speak.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Ryan, should I have blake blackjack? Ever? Wow? So that's
not we're not here to. We're not here to. No.
I mean I actually tend to make money at it.
But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yeah, just three O three nine four nine writes three
words double double double.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Yep, this shows what a cheap I'm cheap because I
won't split the nine on this.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
I love this one, Ryan, I'm gonna I'm gonna guess
you'll love this text as well. From the seven one
to nine, nine to sixty three. Coach, you would be
the worst m effort to sit next to and they
spelled it out by the way, to sit next to
you at the blackjack table. I'm not a gambler, but
I hate when somebody else tells me how to lose
my money at the table, and you are intimidating all
the love. I'm trying to help you make money seven
(10:56):
one nine, I'm trying to help you make money. I
want to take the money from those who have it. Yeah,
fairly common thing.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
You're playing against the house. You're not playing at the
people enough big buildings out there. But if you're sitting
at a table with other.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
People, no, I mean unless the person unless the person
like looked over and said what do I do here?
Which I will periodically just to make sure, like if
i've you know, you get a good dealer and you've
got deuces and she or he's got a three showing,
(11:33):
and then they actually just.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Look it up.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
The book says do So I'm gonna more times than not,
I'm gonna play by the book.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Okay, all right, Well, I appreciate the perspective.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
I also appreciated the text is telling me that I
should not play blackjack and that I have no business sitting.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
At them right, don't listen to them.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
It makes me happy, and whether I lose money or not,
and actually typically, especially when I go play the video
blackjack usually pretty good for that. But yeah, that's all right,
we have ultras fun stuff to get to again. But
for abbreviated show. Let's talk a little bitbout the NBA Finals.
Last night, when I'm starting to wonder at the Rockies.
By the way, one three in a row they.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Have not okay, one they have, but not not currently.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
I saw the text somebody said that this is the
fourth and I no, no, no, they've actually screwed that up. Yeah,
they beat the Land on Sunday, and they beat Washington.
They've won three of their last five, if you want
to sort of exclude those two Atlanta games that they
lost twelve to four and four to one. So I'm
(12:31):
starting to wonder, and we're still waiting on the official
word on Tyre's Halliburton's Mriri of his calf strain.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
But he looked brutal last night, would it be? I
guess you don't.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Really want to go down this road if you're the
Pacers in a must win game and you got to
have this one, obviously the.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Series is over. Should you bench Tyrese Haliburton?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, because you're all about death, because you're you, You've.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Been saying that, you've been preaching it, you've been showing it.
You were all about death. Should you binch?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I think Ray Carlisle, who I really think is one
of the most underrated coaches we have in the NBA,
I think he was in a tough spot last night.
So when Haliburton goes down and then he goes in
the locker room, I mean I'm assuming most I mean,
even on the high school level, when that player comes out,
(13:28):
the head coach wants to hear from the medical staff like, how.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Is he all right? What? So is he good to go? Well?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
I think so it was good to go. It's got
a little bit of a pull, I mean whatever. And
then I mean, he arguably is is your most prolific player.
He's a guy that I mean, he's he's a clutch,
clutch player, especially down the end of the end of
the game. So, but at the start of the third quarter,
(14:00):
insert TJ and you know, he looks like this world's
version of Bob Coosey. I mean, he's dribbling by guys,
he's banking shots in, he's getting shots off on a
head fake. He's got the perfect old man's YMCA game,
except he's not old. He's a pretty good athlete. You
(14:21):
know what he does. He gets such good height when
he gets to like that ten foot range sort of jumps.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
He's just a really smart, tough, competitive player. And he
had a going I mean he's not even a three
point shooter. He not a three pointer in. So at
that point, you know, what.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (14:43):
There were two instances in the second half when Haliburton
came back in and where I said, he's not right right,
he passed up two opportunities after the ball had entered
the post, kicked and then the swing, and he's got
a wide open shot from three point range twice, and
(15:06):
two times he made an extra pass to a guy
that didn't even get a shot off. And so I'm
thinking he that that tells me for a guy that's
really a great shooter, he really wasn't feeling it. Uh,
And I didn't think he wanted to shoot, and I
think I think Oak City figured out he didn't want
to shoot either, So that that's a tough one. So
(15:27):
to answer your question, I mean, if he can't go,
if he's so limited offensive.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
If he looks a lot like he did last night.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Then then I'm I'm not going to use him very
much and I'm going to play now. I do think
with TJ McConnell that I do think it's a little
bit like great backup players. I think there's they can
bring you a spark, they can hit some shots, they're tough,
they'll take a charge.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
I mean they do.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They do a lot of good things, and then there's
a there's a point in time that if you play
them too much, there's a law of diminishing returned. Right
then they start to get exposed for the reasons that
they're a backup player. So I mean Ki McConnell play
thirty five minutes and score twenty five point is he
(16:16):
does he had that kind of capability. I don't know,
but I would I would defer to him if Helliburton
is hampered.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I think what you just said a moment ago kind
of perfectly sums it up for me. Passing up shots,
passing up two big ones. And that's not how I
picked Indiana on the show. And it was after Siakim
hit a three pointer. It's a two point game. Eight
is to go in the fourth quarter, turn the game.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I'm thinking, you know what this one looks like and
smells like Game one?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Right?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
I mean oak City in Game one had a fifteen
point fourth quarter lead, and then they started to tighten up.
And I could see Oak City tightening up on offense
last night too, And then the key to that they
came down that next possession. They kicked it and Jason
Williams hit a three pointer knock him back up by five.
But that game was there for Indiana. They just when
(17:09):
they had to have a guy like Haliburton, he just
was not available.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
And honestly, that would be the scenario, as we've seen
multiple times throughout this playoffs, is that you get it
within striking distance. I mean, they were down eighteen at
one point, got it within two in the fourth quarter,
and you got to think for OKAC, I mean that
certainly the crowd was feeling it.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
You're tightening things up a little bit there. Sure, as
you talked about the the pucker factor.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Yeah, poo, Ryan Pooterjole gets puckered and it's h it's
a bugger.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
It's tough, but ye're right. Jayleen Williams was on one
last night. SGA had some really great moments as well.
I mean, you got seventy one combined from those two players,
and it's gonna be tough to really beat them if
they're gonna.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
I just I just wanted to I'll not name him,
but I just had a text from a good friend
of mine, who is, you know, like most of us,
a digener at gambler, and my friend said, Ryan's a
worse player than me.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Oh wow, first of all, he's not.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
He is.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
He's a pretty good player. He's a pretty smart player.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So yeah, uh, well, and there's people coming to my
defense here for.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Where are they? Where are they? Who are they? I
play like I play like Ryan as well, also coming
to your defense.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
That just means there's other people that like to give
them money like you apparently do.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
They say, don't split a winner.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Well, now like if you've got two kings, I'm never
splitting that.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, why would you even?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
You know, if the dealer has six four or five six,
I'm never split in two face cards.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So we agree on Well, but you gave me a
scenario nines. Yeah it was nine eight and they're showing
an eight.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, because because I figure I can get nineteen twice. No,
now I think split n eight are Yeah, I would say, yeah,
I would say you can look at that and say,
I don't know. I mean I feel like I've got
to push.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, I gotta push. And if they turn over like
a four and they.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Didn't go to Vegas to push, you didn't go for
the free you know, but you know what it's so
interestingly enough, Yeah, I think the buffet you can eat.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
I think I go for the experience. I want to
have a good time and I want to sit there
for a long time.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
And I used to go for the free drinks. Now
a little bit less than that now as it got
gotten older. But when I was younger, like my twenties,
is like they're gonna do free drinks all night.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah that, Yeah, there was something to be said about that.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
And I could just sit here, yeah and drink rum
and coke all night. I mean, oh, this is great. Yeah,
five dollars, here we go, five dollars. Wait, I gotta
push on this one. Fantastic, I'll get another one.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Yeah, Okay, So there was a time when that mattered
to me. Now it's just it's it's kind of more
about the experience. I just don't want to lose all
of it right away. And then they're like I'm walking
around with yeah, nothing.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
We got to uh, we gotta leave tonight. We're supposed
to stay for two days.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I know, but I know, but and I.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Got like, I like Chevy Chase, I'm gonna go to
the ATM and cash out.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
That so great though, That movie is so great.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
And then when he goes to the U that one
casino where there's like guessing numbers, he's like seven too, Like.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Movie Vegas Vacation. Okay, that's.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
One of the greatest of the greatest of all time.
And Chevy Chase is that like peak performance. I mean,
I don't know of all the great Chevy Chase movies.
And we could get into whether you want to talk
about the.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Vegas vacation is after vacation, right it is? Yeah, I
think it's the third one because European European vacation. Yeah,
and then I think that was the third one. Caddy
Shack is way up there. Alzheimer, Great, it's all right,
we come back. I have this, really I think a
(21:00):
fun Broncos offensive conversation. I want to get into with
you specifically on how they can sort of level up
this next year.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I'm gonna see if you agree with me on it.
All right, get to it next.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
Missing parts of our show, including our conversation about blackjack, Yeah,
I don't miss that. You don't want to miss that.
Check it out on the completely free and totally awesome
iHeartRadio app, which you can now set as a preset.
If you download the app, you can set Kowa and
Ko Sports is a preset on the iHeart Radio.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Maybe maybe we get a sponsor and we have Blackjack
tips with David Ryan, like once a month.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
I'm in you know what I mean. But I think
they would have to be like the asterisk of may
gambling problem call text Thank you, Tom, thank you. Yeah,
it'd be like, well this is what I would do,
and the day would be like.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
Oh my god, no, play the disclaimer again. Listen to Tom.
I love Tom's voice.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Gambling them caller text one A hundred gambler, like when
he when he goes out to dinner. Let's just say
it goes to Eddie V's or Shanahan's. Anyone wants to
order filet mignon. You think you think it's that voice?
Speaker 2 (22:10):
Gambling problem caller text one eight hundred gambler. How would
you get her a stake like that? Just like like
a filame?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
I mean with.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oscar, I know, like he's uh rare, he's such a
good guy, such a good guy. I love that drop
and uh yeah, perfectly time.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But you know I I would do that with you,
just as long as it's been understood that I certainly
do this much more for the enjoyment of its rather
than But you're.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
You're there to win. I gues you have sort of
a communistic bent. Somebody already, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Really, it's like you're you're You're not there, you're thereness
to have fun.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You're there, you're trying to win their money, because damn
sure they're trying to win yours.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I already assume my money is lost. No, you can.
We cannot go in to battle with that sort of mind.
We can't. It's gambling for a reason, Dave. But the gambling,
yes it is. I didn't say they were. But you
still have a chance to win.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
You have to try to maximize because they have a
much better chance, especially in black check.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, much better chance to win. I tried to win.
I just acknowledge that I probably won't.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Well, then hit Soft seventeen every time, every time, every time,
and I still think you have a four or five
six showing and you bet your five. Let's just say
you've maxed your bet. Let's say you have ten dollars
can bet and you have Soft seventeen and they have
a four or five six. Please, even if you have
to borrow it to put another ten dollars out there for.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
You next time. Thank you, I will, thank you. I will.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
So.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
This week, Warren Shafer put out this really cool or
sorry worry Sharp Warrant Sharp put out this really cool
stat he was talking about seventy yard or more touchdown
drives last year. So seventy yard or more touchdown drives
last year and the Bronx those numbers, it's kind of
in the medium area of this thing. They're not at
the very high end. There's something that is very notable
(24:06):
about the teams that are on the high end. We'll
get to that in a second. They had twenty three
of them last year, which is just for short of
Kansas City, So they're kind of right in the mix.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Seventy yard any score or seventy yard touchdown. Okay, seventy
yard touchdown.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Drives, so basically like either a punt that pinned you
deep right or you're from kickoff.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Yeah, kind of deal.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So they had twenty three, and I was curious because
I wanted to go back and look at how that
compared to last year, was Russell Wilson and even two
years ago with Nathaniel Hackett, just to see what those
numbers look like. So they had twenty three this last.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Year, I would say they're not it would not be
a lot different.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
You're right, You're absolutely right. Twenty two in twenty twenty three,
so pretty much the same. And then actually, now if
we exclude the Jerry Rossberg two games, it would be
sixteen with Nathaniel Hackett, so quite a bit of a dip.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Okay, somebody's gotta win this game.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
But then you got five with Jerry Rossberg when they'd
fired the coach, and you know, there's all the we're
just moving on and all those kinds of things. But anyways,
the point of it is is actually not that far off.
But I found interesting about this more than anything. Though
Detroit had forty six, they doubled up the Broncos in
seventy yard touch seventy yard and more touchdown drives. Baltimore
(25:26):
had forty four. There's something in those two teams kind
of in common.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
Do you know what it is?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
I'm gonna I'm gonna guess, Well, it's a lot more
simple than I'm gonna guess. They were in the top
percent of teams that had plays on offense of more than.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
Forty five yards. You know, they actually might be you
could be right about that. I was going to talk
about that.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
They're two of them more prolific running teams, teams that
have of success running the ball.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
They're also tremendous red zone teams.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Right, I think top three if you and that makes
some sense to me if you go back and look
on those seventy yard plus touchdown drives, I would be
interested in seeing, like, what's the what's the biggest play
of those particular twenty three drives. And my guess would
be it would it would be more than you know,
(26:26):
a nine yard run. You're gonna to have that kind
of drive more times than not. You get one big play,
whether whether it's a you know, sixty eight yard touchdown
or like the Cleveland game when Judy gets loose and
nobody's covering him and then the Broncos come back and
bow knicks from ninety three yards out hits Marvin Mims.
(26:47):
You have to have the ability to get chunk yards
and that's something that I think the Broncos have increased
their ability to do so in the offseason. It's only
on pay and I get it, but I think with Dobbins,
with Harvey and with Evan ingram yep, I think those
(27:09):
three guys give you better ability than what they had
last year to.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Get those type plays.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I mean, the le Broncos scored a total of four
hundred and twenty five points. But we're comparing to say,
Baltimore scored five hundred and eighteen, Buffalo, who had who
had thirty four of those kinds of drives, had five
hundred and twenty five points, and then was a Detroit
a five to sixty four, which led the NFL. And
those are the top three teams. So the point of
it is is not that the Broncos have to be
those kinds of teams, but what it does for not
(27:37):
only the I think the strength and the ability to
score points and win games on offense, but also what
it does to help your defense out. If you can
sustain drives, if you can put together and you're right,
some of them are explosive drives and it's just going
to be two or three.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Plays and you're you're already in the end zone.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
But a lot of those for me strike as when
I think about the rushing attack of Baltimore and Detroit,
I think about the way they can stain and they
can put together long, just sol crushing drives on offense
that totally take any kind of momentum away from your opponent,
and that for me is another level for this offense.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
As we have a conversation a bit yesterday about the offense.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Maybe the Broncos offense is already in the conversation to
being the best in the AFC West.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
This is another level for them. Yeah, I think that's
that's probably fair.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I think if you, I mean, if you really want
to simplify it, and it's not this simple, but I
think for the sake of the discussion, we simplify it
and say, if you can run the ball with efficiency,
and you're effective enough on the ground that you limit
(28:45):
how much a defense, how much your opponent can play
shell coverage on you, whether it's Cover two or Cover
four with two safeties lined up playing half the field,
and if you get single safety high, it limits what
sort of coverages the defense can run. And it stands
(29:06):
to reason that you're going to be able to throw
the ball much more effectively. And I've said this before
at any level of football, if a team goes into
a game and they say we're playing Cover two or
Cover four the whole game, and we're good enough upfront
that will stop the run.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
If what they say in that regard is true, you're.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Gonna have a long, long day on offense because those
coverages can literally take your wide receivers out of the game.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It makes it much more difficult to throw the ball,
which is.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Why I'm looking forward to seeing if Sean Payton is
sincere about wanting to be more effective with the ground game,
it can put them in the level of these teams.
I'm not going to sit here and try to say
the Broncos are about to go to Baltimore Ravens level
of offensive production, or the Buffalo Bills with Josh Allen,
who is the reigning MVP. I don't know if we're
quite an that conversation yet, but it's to say that
(29:59):
if you can start winning games on offense, it's going
to change your margins entirely. Like up to this point,
it's been like, Hey, if the offense is a good
day here and there, like they did eat Tampa Bay, right,
you don't need as much from the defense.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's great. That's nice to have.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
What would it be like to live in a world
which we did when Peyton Manning was here, where the
offense would carry games for you at times and you
know the defense is good enough, but the offense can
do that too.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Yeah, I think that's the next step I think to
see this offense evolve into a really even more so
explosive offense. The difference between Baltimore and Buffalo is, I
mean one of the biggest differences. You have quarterbacks that
when the play caller, the play designer is looking at them,
(30:47):
there will be designed quarterback runs. You can do that
with bon Nicks and maybe like a Justin Herbert, but
you can't do it to the level. You wouldn't want
to do it. You wouldn't do it to the level
of the Ravens and the Bills.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
You know.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
The Ravens do it because they've got one of the
greatest athletes to ever play the position at quarterback and oh,
by the way, he can throw the ball too.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
The Bills do it, I think for similar reasons.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
And you've got a six', five two hundred and forty
five pound athlete that can throw it in a great,
way but he's he's tough to bring, down so you
can sort of roll the dice and design stuff that
even quarterback, counters i, mean quarterback. Powers you don't want
to do that on a regular basis with Bo nix
Or Justin herbert or a bunch of Other Joe, burrow
(31:36):
you just don't want to do that type. Thing pooter
talking nothing, Better and everybody knows what a puckered pooter
feels like because and don't act like you don't if
you're driving nine to twenty. Five you, KNOW i, mean
for differing. Reasons but everybody out there has had.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It it applies to so many walks of, life, yes
sports specifically every single, time no. DOUBT i wonder what
the pucker factor for The Edmonton oilers is going to be.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
TONIGHT i THINK.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I think For edmonton to win, THIS i, mean this
is no earth shattering, news but their goalie play has
got to be, better no, doubt, RIGHT i, mean the
goalie play has been sub par for the most, part
AND i Think, florida you know, WHAT i Think florida
has exhibited just a little more grit and. Toughness AND i,
(32:32):
THINK i, MEAN i Think, edmonton you, know people all
Over conor. McDavid i think he's got one goal in the,
series BUT i mean he's been really he's been really
good at finding.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Guys he's had some shots off the.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Post so if one of those goes, in, YEAH i
MEAN i Think edmonton will come out and play their
butts off whether it's good enough or.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
NOT i don't.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Know a couple of games ago where they got three
in the first And, thenton, yeah they lost that game
at four. Overtime so it's been a weird, series but
it should be exciting. Tonight playoff Hockey Stanley Up finals always, great,
yup you know it's also great The. Rockies The rockies
are on a, roll two game.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Heater that's the. Greatest that does it for us when
we be back tomorrow at three.
Speaker 1 (33:14):
O'clock For Dave, Logan Ryan, edward thank, you grank great
job as, Always rockies.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Baseball coming up next To, washington D. C take it
on The nationals on k away chick you dig the
long ball for good
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