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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's finally going home. A couple of texts, Oh no,
he's not. He's still sitting behind the last. A couple
of these are great. Let's not forget Dave hasn't given
Indiana much of a chance this entire series.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Keep that same.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Energy, Dave, I know you got your lou Dort Jersey
on today.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I you know what, First of all, I'm not the
one that has the low good poster above my bed.
There's one of us here and it ain't the black guy,
and it ain't me, right, so that leaves Grant. And
second of all, listen, I have been wrong. Sometimes, you know,
(00:35):
when you say stuff, you just have to I have
been wrong. I thought this was a five game series.
I did not think Indiana had enough on offense with
Oklahoma City's defense, and I was wrong, dead wrong. I
still think oak City will win the game, but I don't.
(00:55):
But I'm not as confident going into Game seven, even
though it's in Oklahoma City as I was for games one, two, three,
or four.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Did you just say, you two we were just talking
outside and you literally disagree with me that you thought
Indiana was my win.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I did not. I never said such a thing that
might have been.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You're say, you know, we're both pretty similar looking white
that the text year fellas with all these steak dinner bets,
I've been meaning to ask which steakhouse would you say
is better Always or Shanahan's. I'm going to my first
Broncos home game this season, coming from California, so I'd
like to try one of them while I'm out there.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Garden Grays, where's.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That downtown den combs up from a grant on that one?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I have not been to. Oh, definitely you should go.
It's a Michelin star steakhouse, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Okay, everyone, every time, I like, every time that we
play here, I make sure I take my teammates for
Garden Grays. Wow, Okay to know no, But also I'm
not gonna I went to Shanahans last week actually, okay,
And I feel like I've talked about it before, Like
I love Shaded Hands. It just wasn't the same. I
hadn't been there in a couple of years, though, but
it just wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
We didn't you like?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
The steak wasn't seasoned enough, it was kind of dull.
Sides weren't very good. The drinks are fine, but drink.
I can get drinks anywhere though.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know, Mike still got a lot of connections in this.
You know, I'm just saying, be you know, be careful.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well, I might have to go to Perry's today. My
six year old is begging me to go to Perrys
Perry Park Meadow. And that's how I know, like Harry's
Pizza Perry. That's how I know my kids are bougie. Figure.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Who could have seen that coming?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Like, oh my god, kids, I could I could never imagined.
But I only have one boogie kid and it's a
six year old girl. She's like, Dad, you know, I
just we should go to Perry's. I would ask my
mom to go to Pizza Hut, not pay. I would
ask my mom and go to Shaky's. I don't He's pizza.
I've never even been Shaky. It's old school. It's gone.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm just about to ask is it's still here? Pizza
Pizza Hut for me?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Have you ever been a fire on the mountain?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes, have you been? I have not wings wings, they
have vegan wings. So I really love well, good for
you like that.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You seriously I should have known what you agree to
have great vegan wings.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
How do they make I'm just I'm curious. How only
a minute, how do you make a vegan wing?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, you don't even know when you eat, say tan,
okay tan.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So that's why I can do this. S E I
T A n tan. Yeah, okay, that is a flavor.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's a it's a type of you don't even know.
Look at your googling and you're the damn vegan.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's it's made of We just admit that you didn't
know that. You had to look at you you're looking
it up on the computer. I just know it's it's
like a meat substitute. It's it's made from like it's
like it's an a protein thing. It's like made from
wheat and stuff like that, so wheat and soy satan.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, but I was looking at if I go to
fire on the mountain, by the mountain, I say, hey,
give me one of those vegan wings and make it
a little satan.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
We don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You make it with the sauce, whatever sauce you want.
So they just sauce the satan.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah that sounds awful, definitely sound it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
At all at all but fire in the mountain.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But where is it at? They have two of them.
They have one downtown. Okay, I'm not going downtown.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Where else all that towards that way.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I want a little high. And then they got one.
I don't mind going to low High. I just don't
want to go downtown. Yeah, I think I want a
little high. But yeah, phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Also, we had a listener said Steakhouse ten. I forgot that.
I like that too. I do like Steakhouse ten, but
I was so confused the first time I went.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
There, Eddie V. Somebody recommended is real.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Good, Frisco. Listen.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I think Shanahan's is real good too. I go there
every now and then.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Dang it, Ryan, you could listen, man, I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't. I don't. I don't need meat.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I mean I eat fish once in a while. But
if you don't eat meat, how can you eat fish?
And what's what's the thinking?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's it's more for the the omega three's and the protein.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's it's my doctor for that, right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's somewhat yeah, but by my doctor recommended that a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Because did your doctor recommend you go vegan. No, okay, No,
did I.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Stay away from my red meat?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, red meatstero? Yeah, exactly what it was. It was
all cholesterol like.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
This wasn't like some kind of social thing like I
wasn't trying to make some kind of stand.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was my cholesterol is like four hundred and fifty.
Oh you're LDL when I was yes, when I was
in my thirty Well you don't want that. No, No,
it was bad.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It was like that so bad. Do you know what
I think would help?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yep? Oh, gosh, he's.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Working with the ALI enough now I could just look
at him sort of nod.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Get yourself cleaned up here. Here's a lot of things there.
You go, keep saying your questions or comments. I guess
here on the text line, if you have other steak
houses so that we can recommend to our.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Good Eddie V's is good steakhouse? Ten is good?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Well somebody literally just said I usually take every chance
to jump on Ryan, but those fake meat things from
Fire on the Mountain are bomb dot com.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He had some of them Satan wings or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It is, and we all know that was his Ryan
texting from his other number.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, this person calling me a slur here, Yes it's slur. Yeah,
it is considered pescatary. And I never said I was vegan. Well,
the the word he used, which one. Yeah, it's from
this real three one seven. You're about to be blocked
by the way. Oh oh oh oh, I just saw that. Yeah,
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you can't use that word.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
No, not at all. Come on, man, Yeah, we can
adults here use your words. You don't have to beat
viol or anything like that. And that's the issue with today,
you know, just you know us agree with somebody doesn't
mean you need to sit there and and tear them
down or call them names from why can't we treat people?
But also I will say this, you wouldn't say that
to somebody's face because you get punched in the face.
From the seven to one to nine Shakey's was the bomb?
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Oh Dave pat Oh yeah, I know you, I know
you like man.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Listen, it was it was the place to eat anyways.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yes, and so that person is saying that, yeah, and
you meet but yeah, there's uh the uh the Satan
and people are saying it sounds like satan. It does
sound like satan. I mean maybe this I'm mispronouncing it,
but it's s C I T A N. And the
wings are are pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh I thought okay, And seven to nine seventy one
Shelby said Elways is gone and Creek it is all right.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Oh wow, surprising. I thought that was like a staple.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh there's one of their report Oh there is, yeah, terminal.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Uh the b Bee concours nice.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
All right, wellcome back.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I do want to ask you guys about JK Dobbins
because JK actually had a heck of a game.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Against your Cleveland Browns last year.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So I want to ask a little bit about what
you saw from JK and what we can expect. Thank
you for all the people that have now let me
know that I'm pescatarian. Yes I'm I'm fully aware of that.
I haven't said I'm being about eight years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It'd probably make to kill me. Your stomach would be.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I had something that had a little bit of bacon
in it a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh brutal.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh instantly was like, how quick did it? So you
just have to poop both?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, so you do get nauseous, nauseous, and then yeah,
your stomach is doing backflips. You know that dumb moment
of like, I just say something that's really not How
long did.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It take for the like kind of kick in for
you to start feeling sick?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Probably half less than half an hour? Yeah, I was. Yeah,
it was the rest of the ass.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So if you ever decided not to be a vegan,
then you wanted to get back to, yeah, some form
of normalcy.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Are you saying you couldn't? Could you eat a bite?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Do you gradually work your way back into that or
it's a good question.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I really don't. I wouldn't even know where to begin
with that.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think you'd probably wanted to slowly, like anything to
introduce it. You know. I think it's like if you
go to the gym, like, you don't go there and
start lifting the heaviest weights you possibly can. You'd probably
hurt yourself, right, So I'm just kind of a similar deal.
So I do want to ask you about JK. Dobbins
because we're talking about Adric Estime a little bit ago.
He fourteen carries eighty five yards, two touchdowns. He had
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two catches for twenty yards against your Cleveland Browns. Are
you not a fan of JK? Because you're talking about
Oddrick estime as a guy that you're keeping an eye
on or not reading too.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Much in time.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Oh no, this is more just about estime establishing himself
in the league, because as a young guy, it's either
you get on the field or you get on the couch.
You know, it's only so long you're going to go
without playing and before they find somebody cheaper and younger
that can do what you do. And that's that's literally
the whole goal. The manu you get into the league,
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they're trying to replace you. I love the way JK. Dobbinson.
I've been a fan of JK. Dobbins since his Ravens days,
you know what I mean. And when we talked about
it earlier this year, I talked about how him and
Nick Chubb, him or Nick Schub would be a great
fit for this different Broncos team. And now that they
did bring JK. Dobbinson, it just brings it. And then
they drafted R. J. Harvey Secd a round. It puts
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all the heat on estimate.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, so him, Oh yeah, I love JK.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Dobbins game. Okay, Oh yeah, I always have. And it's
just a matter of what scheme he's playing in you
know what I mean? He did great last year in
that charged with with hardball and charges because they were
trying to run the ball down your throat. And then
when and obviously Baltimore a run first team, you know,
he did great there. So this for me, though, it
signalizes that, you know, the Broncos seem like they're going
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to start trying to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Dave we show to reference this, but I was thinking
about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Today, Naji Harris is basically making the same amount of
money as JK Dobbins. The Chargers decided to go Naji
Harris over JK Dobbins. I gotta be honest, I think
I'd rather.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Go the other way.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What do you think? What which would you rather have?
Naji Harris or JK Dobbins.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I would if both players were healthy, I would take JK.
Dobbins by. Not not a huge amount, but not a
little amount either a substantial amount. I think JK Dobbins
has more explosive ability than Naja Harris. Nase's you know,
a battering ram. He's tough, uh, he falls forward. Shelby
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thinks he's a katy, but it's because he played him
twice you know, I not not. You know, I've talked
to Nause about what he thinks about the Browns front.
Not even gonna say it, so no, but I think
I think JK. Dobbins more more explosive. Yeah, I believe JK.
Dobbins is less a more it's more explosive.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
The issue is so that Natre Harrison stasts healthier, and
I think and that's I guess where your idea is
coming from. Because when you needed JK. Dobbins, when you
were in Chargers and you needed JK. Dobbins down the stretch,
he was hurt. So I think that had to have played.
That have to have played. You know, it's crazy, like
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what my friends does this to me all the time
when we're playing Call of dudey or something like that
and just start yowing and I'm just like dogs because
I hate cats. Well it's something because I hate cats,
hate hate cat flock h a t E. Really, Oh
my god, I hate cats. They're satan. I just like,
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oh my god, I can't. I hate cats with a passion.
And you know what, my wife really tried this on
me because my six year old and the youngest, the
four year old wanted a cat, and she's like, are
you really not gonna get the Macadami mess screwdom cats?
Like not in my house. No, you can get a dog.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like you know that's not going to work out for
you long term, but I'm just telling it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I guess I'll be single.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I have a cat. Well listen, sorry, let me read
the tea leaves you. You're gonna get a cat otherwise
you will be single. That's how that's good. My life
is a care it's the kids.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I'm like, you know what I was like, I
told her, well, you can get a dog when daddy retires.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You're trying to talk your daughter out of what she wants.
She wants a dog, she wants a cat. No, she
wanted a dog. So we've had just talked about a dog, but.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Then we want a cat.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
A cat is just less maintenance and so with how
much we travel, a cat is more doable.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But I hate I know very few dudes that hate.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I'm just saying no, And the fact that you do
and your kids want a cat and you are denying.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I will keep denying them a cat. I hate them.
That breaks you on this.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, you're you're gonna lose this one. I'm with Dave,
You're gonna lose this one.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Aren't you a cat guy?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Though I have a couple of cats exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's what I'm saying. Like, No, Like, here's the thing.
I never grew up I had dog too well. I
would say this though, like I really don't. I'm not
the biggest animal person in the world. We're gonna break
you on that, because when you grew up in the hood,
you don't really mess with other people's animals, and you
don't really mess with animals like that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
What you're saying, nobody in the hood has a dog.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
But I'm not messing with somebody else's dog. That's what
I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
You, you kind of not asking you to mess with
somebody else's dog.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I'm asking you to get a dog for yourself. We
had a dog, mister Jingles. What happened to him? My
mom let her go, let him go. No, I don't
know if this is true, but Mama always told me
she gave him away to a family on a farm.
Mister Jingles was over here running around free. The dog
was Jingle. He was a pit mixed with black lab Okay,
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he was a nice He was a really nice dog.
But I still to this day thinking mister Jingle's running
on that farm. Yeah, happy, mister Jingles. Appreciate you all's loyalty.
I'm doing some crazy. I came home from basketball practice
and he was gone. That's how my mom did, is
that I literally came home from practice.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
No, we did not know or anything. And I came
home one day and he was gone.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's when you put your mom out.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I did.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Already people are standing with you on this.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Somebody said, I can tell Ryan was a cat guy
before now. I was a dog guy.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Was basically my entire life until Shelby about the break.
It wasn't until like the last year or so that we've.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Just had more cats in the house. That's it. And listen,
I understand you don't like Najee Harris. You don't like cats.
All of a sudden, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I enjoyed Naja Harris.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I like.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I like Najea Harris. I think he's a good bag.
I just don't. I hate cats. Always will, Okay, always will,
and I will elaborate. Someone asked me to elaborate on
the words. Let go about mister Jingles. Let go. He
was given away. It wasn't just let go, let free.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But why you know what, You're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
To ask my mom about that one, because I was
heartbroken when I got home and mister Jingles wasn't there.
Do you know where mister Jingles is from?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Where we where's from?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Do you know what the name mister Jingles is from?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
No, the Green.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Mile, the Mouse?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh yeah, okay, I forgot that too, I forget about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So Michael Clark, Duncan Tomas, Yeah, a classic. All right, Well,
keep sitting history texts five six six are on the
kaway Comma spirital text line.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
All right. I was the thing about this earlier today.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I wanted to ask you guys because sometimes we get
into this part of the offseason, we're getting ready for
the NFL season, and people start to project what teams
are going to be, right, good teams, bad teams.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
From a player's perspective, I guess I want to know
about about bad teams because like every year, there are
teams that show up and we think they're gonna be
bad and they're gonna be good. Brounks are example last year,
right where people picked them at five and a half
wins overall, right, and they ended.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Up getting to ten. So that's us as fans and
then maybe analysts.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What about from a team's perspective, like like when you're
in the locker room, because I imagine as a player,
you always believe that you can be a good team, Like,
no matter what, you guys will talk yourself into being
a good team. So I guess to start with you
real quick, Shelby, Like, from a perspective of player, what
is that process like of like, hey, we may not
be very good, but we we're gonna talk ourselves as
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being really good.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hey, no matter what, no matter how good anybody outside
the building thinks. You know, when you're in that building,
everyone believes that they're gonna win every game. And if
you don't, you know that's I always say this, You know,
you better believe you want to win every game because
if not, we don't need you. Because that belief is
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belief is part of how you aren't actually, you know,
doing the things you need to do, because if you
don't believe it, you won't achieve it. See that, I
always say, if you don't believe, then it won't happen.
And so, and that's why in a locker room, in
a facility, you truly have to be together about this
and really believe together that you're going to be good.
Like all those years in Denver when I was here,
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every year every game we thought, we went into the
game expecting to win that game. Like granted we lost
more than we won, but the belief and the preparation
that they were still all there. You can't go to
it no matter if you go to any team in
the league, everyone's going to be out there working and
expecting to go out there win. That's the beautiful thing
about the NFL. Though. The talent difference is so slight.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I wonder if that part of it.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, the talent difference is so slight that any team
could win and on any day, you know. And and
that's the best part about the NFL.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So why do we see that, Dave?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Why do we see teams that a lot of us
will go well on paper, it doesn't look like a
very good team, but they still find success. Is there
something about the makeup of the locker room, the culture
is it?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Is it that kind of deal?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think it's.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Excuse me, I think it's a combination of things. I mean,
you have you have to have the right makeup in
the locker room. You've got to have the right kind
of leadership. There are some intangible things that I believe
in that really good teams have, and they've got they've
got enough veterom presence that sort of runs the locker room.
The coaches in the NFL don't run the locker room
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that the squad does. So you got to I think
it's a head coach in the NFL, you got to
do everything you can to make sure that you know
your two guys on defense or three your two or
three guys on offense.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You're two or three.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Guys and special teams, the vets that they got to
handle on that locker room, and if one of those
young cats gets out of out of line, you know
those veterans are going to take care of it. Then
there's an expectation level. How do we practice? Uh, And
again I think the really good teams a lot of
that comes from the players, like, hey man, listen, that's
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not how we do it. Player led, that's that's not
gonna be good enough in practice. I mean the last
thing a young player. Now, these young guys nowadays are
a little bit different, But it used to be the
last thing a young player wanted to hear from was
a stern comment from a veteran that he respected or
feared or both. It's like, hey, you know what, you
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better get your ass and gear. Like you don't have
to say that too many times to young guys that
are made of the right stuff. So I'm big on
veteran leadership in the NFL, and and that's why. I mean,
that's why guys like Shelby are still valuable and he's
played for twelve years because he's going to do the
right thing. He's gonna say the right thing. If something
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needs to be said to a young dude, he's not
afraid to do it. You have to have guys like
that in on good teams.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, I just think, you know, veteran leadership, like David
saying this is so important no matter what the team.
It could change the mindset of a team that won
two games a year before and they win ten games
the next. Obviously, like I said, the talent differences just
so slight, but the best teams in the NFL are
all player led teams. Granted, the coaches have to give
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some type of blueprint sure, and the players are the
ones that are going to behold that blueprint, you know
what I mean? And I just and that's how it
has to be because when we're out in that field,
you better be able to be held accountable for not
doing your job from one of us, because if that's
would have been like, Hey, I'm working my ass off
holding this b gap up. I need you to come
hit that a gap.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But what is ownership? What kind of role does ownership
play in all this?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Because I remember for years, especially when the Broncos were
in a bit of flux there between mister B and
then now what we have with the Poulton Pinners, there
was this kind of discussion about, well, the reason why
the Broncos are struggling so much is because ownership is
not in place. It's not a a very firm dynamic there.
And we've seen good ownership situations and in all sports
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really we've seen that ownership situation. So how much does
ownership play a role specifically in the on field winning
h not much.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I guess it will help out if if you talk
about ownership, ownership is investing in the team, investing in
the facility, giving you you know, every opportunity to better yourself.
That's the ways ownership can help you, not even on
the field before you even touched the field, and invest
in your facility for recovery and you know, and investing
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just in you as a player. If those owners always
will get the most out of their players because they're
investing in them. But ownership only can do so much.
But it's not much they really can do on the field.
But they can't help you get a better product to
the field.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, yeah that makes sense. What about you, Dave? I
mean I don't think.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Ownership has any real impact in terms of I mean
ownership has impact in terms of who they hire.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So they have to go.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Through their process of making sure that they're they're bringing
in the right head coach and the head coach and
then has to sell a here's who I want on
the staff, and here's who I want the strength and
conditioning coach to be, and the trainers and here's you
know that sort of thing. But in terms of the
actual locker room, no, I don't think there's I don't
think there's much even really good owners like the ones
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the Broncos have, you know, Greg and Carrey I think
they're respected by players, but in terms of like setting
the culture in that locker room, I just don't think
that's their thing.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
A couple questions here on the Kaba Commas spirital text line.
Question for you guys, did you guys ever deal with
a poisonous person in the locker room?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I were real bad.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It just affected everybody's attitude, confidence, et cetera. I just
wonder what happens at that point, because it's all about
belief and faith, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Oh, I had like a cancer in the locker room,
you know. I feel it's very It's very few guys
that have the playing status and around the league, that
type of status to go in and be a cancer
because most other guys, the NFL is ruthless. They have
no problem shipping you out and finding somebody else if
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you're affecting.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
The locker room.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
But if you're a star player, you do get a
little bit of that of that leeway. But I haven't.
I've been lucky. I've been in locker rooms with you know,
Charles Woodson. I've been in locker rooms with Khalil Mack.
I've been in locker rooms with Von Miller. You know
what I mean, And all those guys helped themselves up
to the very professional standard. So I've been very lucky
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in that aspect. And but I have had I have
heard stories of you know, you know, certain guys like
the abs of the world, you know what I mean,
like kind of like bringing the locker room down.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Do you ever experienced anything like that, Dave Cancers in
the locker room?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I mean no, not, not really.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I think I think that was a different I mean,
that was a different era of football, and I think,
I mean, players were much less likely because I think
partially due to the money, right nobody was making. I mean,
we were making good money based on what everybody else
in the world was making. But in terms of comparing
salaries in the mid seventies to mid eighties with what
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these guys are making now, no, I think we would
have been much more prone. I don't think a guy
like Antonio Brown is gifted as he is from a
football standpoint, I don't think that that sort of behavior
would have played well back in the mid eighties in
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locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think there would have been.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, there weren't there weren't cell phones, you know,
they're there, there would have.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I just feel there.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Would have been on a lot of teams, there would
have been some conversation had about Amen, that's that's not
how we do things.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I don't know if you guys saw the story earlier
today with Boogie Cousins where he said that he had
heard that there were multiple fistfights this season in the
Phoenix Suns locker room. Now Kevin Durant has come out
after the fact and said that that never ever happened,
and these same.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Bookie Cousins just got thrown out of the same like
for the rest of his life, and that one.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
The same exact one.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
And and in fact, because he did an interview on
FanDuel TV on their NBA show that they have Lou
Williams I think he's part of it and Chandler Parsons
and anyway, so he said it on that and they
were kind of taken, like, whoa, are you breaking some
dew Sierra Like he's like, oh, yeah, I've heard that
there's multiple fist fights.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
They've deleted that video.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Now I watched it that yeah, they deleted that video,
which doesn't happen very often when you like get so
much pushback on something that you're just like, we want
to distance ourselves all the way from this.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So so does that tells me it that probably didn't happen.
I mean, whi elst would they delete the video?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Why would you delete the video like that?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So maybe he thought it and then maybe they said, hey,
do we have proof? Nope, we don't have any proof.
Well get it out of we're getting that down.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I guess I thought about it in terms of, like, boy,
I mean, Kevin Durant comes down and says that, and
I think I guess if your FanDuel, you're like, well,
we don't really want to push back on Kevin.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I love Kevin Durant's game. Who's Kevin Durant go in
fist fight?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
But I mean, yeah, you know any of those guys though,
like you know, Devin Booker, I don't. I don't see it,
Well didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I hate I just hate stories like that because what
you know, we hear stories about locker rooms and stuff
all the time, and this is like, well, I've heard
stories about locker rooms I've been in, and I'm like,
that didn't happen, you know what I mean, And so
it says, I see how sensational a lot of a
lot of these storytellers can get. Like we can't you
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can't believe every part of Jeff Teek's stories or DeMarcus
cousins stories, you know what I mean, Like a lot
a lot of it is just for you know, clicks.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But it's so tough. I agree with you. But where's
it coming from, like to just invent that, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean, he might have he might have had a
conversation with one of his boys in Phoenix, who may
his great friends with you know, the Eleventh Man, whomever
that might be in Phoenix, And hey man, you hear
they I mean they got into a brawl in the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It could be as simple as that. I mean, it
could be.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
We we got some stuff like on Russell Westbrook towards
the end of the season, remember that, I mean talking
about the shouting matches that they were getting into and
some of the dissension that was happening inside the locker room.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
A g pushback he did on that.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But I I mean, I could see I don't I
don't have any information on this, but I could I
could see. I think Russell Westbrook is an emotional, emotional guy,
but I could see a little bit of discourse. By
the way, there's a Denver group attempting to set a
record for the most Ryan's at a baseball game, and
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that is tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Are you yes.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
They have nothing to talk about today?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh god, look it. They have the organizer of Oh
my god, Ryan and he's there in Denver.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Are you going kind of looks like you with sunglasses
on you?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is this the whole like all middle don't do that,
don't Yeah, I got a side with Ryan on that one.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But what I will say, going back to the ownership thing,
going back to the ownership thing real quick, I will
say ownership can actually breathe terrible locker rooms. That's actually
they can actually affect the locker room negatively more than
they can positively, based off of how you uphold the standard.
If you let your star players just get away of everything,
it's going to ruin the locker room. People are going
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to start gettingjealous, people are going to start getting mad.
So that's one area where ownership can actually negatively affect
the locker room is accountability. Now, are you gonna hold
everyone accountable? Are you going to tell you? Are you
going to tell everyone? Oh? Just let him do what
he wants to. He's he's our star. Because sometimes that
right there, can lead to a toxic locker room.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That makes some sense, And I do feel like as
we're sort of blending NBA NFL conversations here, I imagine
it's kind of different, like the policing that would happen
in a nearly what is it seventy man like locker room? Right,
because you got the fifty three plus you have the
practice squad. I mean that there's a lot of guys
in there, and in varying levels of experience, varying levels
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of contracts. The NBA locker room, we're talking fifteen guys, right,
I mean it's a little bit different, and the stars
are the stars. In an NBA locker room, there's like, hey,
you're a starter and you're a backup and your whatever else, right,
I mean, a guy that's barely hanging on kind of
deal is so different. And in the NFL you got
eleven on both sides, and then even the death guys
can be quote unquote starters because of the amount of
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snaps that they're ultimately going to play.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, and the NBA, though, you got a lot of
guys who and all stars that just go rogue and
do their own thing, like we've heard, you know they have.
It's a whole different world in the NBA, where you know,
they don't have to fly with the team, they can
fly their own, they can fly with their own jay, right, Well,
it's crazy, like you know, you hear stories. I remember
it was one. I think James Harden was like two
hours late to the flight. It's it's like, Okay, that
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would never happen in the NFL exactly, that would never happen.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
There's like sixteen flights per week, right and the Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday and a Monday. I mean there's I mean, I
guess buys there's a whole bunch of flights fifteen or sixteen, fourteen,
fifteen sixteen whatever. Not one team would sit and wait
for a guy, for any guy.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
For two hours. I don't even think they would wait
for him at all.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You might get somebody like if the quarterback that it
depends on who it is. Yeah, had a flat tire
and called and said, I'm running twenty minutes late.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Okay, maybe, but you're.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Gonna get the stink guy when you walk in that
cabin from the head coach like flat tire or not.
You should have been here, but nobody else that thing
is taken off.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
And that's the difference between the NFL and the NBA.
You know one's the player likely, you know one's not.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, you're talking about the eyes on that. I mean,
NFL is just far superior in so many ways. And
it's not to say that I haven't enjoyed the NBA
Finals here, but it still is going to barely hold
a candle to the NFL when it comes up. Anyways,
you guys see the NHL ratings that came out.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Did not oh horrible, horrible, like unbelievably.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
They lost.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I was one of them that watched. They lost to.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Their own All Star, the Frozen now the Frozen Four,
the four Nations they lost to the four they did.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The finals performed worse than that. They performed worse than
w NBA games, like get the hell out of here.
I'm telling people are tuning.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
In for Kaitlyn Clark. You know, obviously, w NBA they're
they're pushing all.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Kaitlyn Clark wait National Hockey League Stanley Cup games through
fewer viewers than a regular season w NBA game.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Kaitlin Clark fever.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I assume it's probably when they played the Liberty Fever.
Liberty probably definitely little w NBA experts. Hey, my thing
is this is like, I have daughters, so I got
to like them. I know you do, but this wasn't
as big when when you were raising your daughter as
when you know, as mine.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So I like, I mean, I haven't watched the full game,
but if the TV's on and Kaitlin Clark is playing,
I'll watch a little bit.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Man, it doesn't matter for me if Kaitlyn Clark is playing.
I just enjoy WNBA because it's actually like good, fundamental
team basketball other than the fever. Who is this Kaitlin
Clark just shooting it up? But other than like, I
enjoy it and I encourage, you know, my sons and
my daughters to watch it and just yeah like it.
Just you know, it's a goal that if let's say
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my daughter decides to play, she has something that she
can actually strive for.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I get that they were down from four point one
seven million last year to two point five.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Ooh ooh, that's a big drive drop.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So that's like more than thirty percent significant you lost, Yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Many viewers for an WNBA game? I can pull that
up here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
But I saw that earlier that they lost to U
Kaitlyn to a Kaitlyn Clark game.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well, so yeah, that's tough, but that's the reality of it. Honestly,
I'm not gonna lie to you. I did not even
see a single second of the NHL Stanley Cup Finals
at all. And it's just it's not necessarily because I
don't like hockey. It was more just because it was
I barely ever saw it talked about. I barely saw
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it on TV commercials and I really didn't even know
where they were for where they were in the playoffs,
I mean anything like that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
He's a perfect encapsulation, And we've talked about this before, Davis,
a perfect capital encapsulation of how they market their product right,
And we've said for years they just don't do a
great job marketing, especially their stars. That that has been
something that they have woefully missed on over the years.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's a niche sport and I think you have to.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I watched it because I sort of got into the storyline.
You know, a team from Canada had not won the
Stay in the Cup since nineteen ninety three, that continues.
Edmonton had won it since I think nineteen ninety. Florida
had been to the previous two Stanley Cup finals one
to one, lost one. They won last year, and here
they are Edmonton has home ice, So there were some
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there were some storylines in there. And with you know,
with Conor McDavid, you get the best player in the
world and drive title another great player. But Florida had just,
you know, just the kind of gritty, sort of defensive
minded team and they had much better play in the net.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
On the on the text line, someone and this is
a good question, someone said, do those ratings for hockey
include Canadian viewers? And I have.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
No, did not, no, no, this one did not know.
I can tell you the Canadian viewership here in a second.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
They're not slacking. I bet that was high. It was.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It was.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It was higher obviously than than the US. I had
it here.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Daniels, but they drunk some Jack Daniels, all.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Right, Well, we'll come back. I do want to ask
you guys. Nick Benita will get to that next
It's finally going home. A couple of texts, Oh no,
he's not. He's still sitting behind the last. A couple
of these are great. Let's not forget Dave hasn't given
Indiana much of a chance this entire series.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Keep that same.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Energy, Dave, I know you got your lou Dort Jersey
on today.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
I you know what, First of all, I'm not the
one that has the low good poster above my bed.
There's one of us here and it ain't the black guy,
and it ain't me, right, so that leaves Grant. And
second of all, listen, I have been wrong. Sometimes, you know,
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when you say stuff, you just have to I have
been wrong. I thought this was a five game series.
I did not think Indiana had enough on offense with
Oklahoma City's defense, and I was wrong, dead wrong. I
still think oak City will win the game, but I don't.
(00:55):
But I'm not as confident going into Game seven, even
though it's in Oklahoma City as I was for games one, two, three,
or four.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Did you just say, you two we were just talking
outside and you literally disagree with me that you thought
Indiana was my win.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I did not. I never said such a thing that
might have been.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
You're say, you know, we're both pretty similar looking white
that the text year fellas with all these steak dinner bets,
I've been meaning to ask which steakhouse would you say
is better Always or Shanahan's. I'm going to my first
Broncos home game this season, coming from California, so I'd
like to try one of them while I'm out there.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Garden Grays, where's.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
That downtown den combs up from a grant on that one?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I have not been to. Oh, definitely you should go.
It's a Michelin star steakhouse, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Okay, everyone, every time, I like, every time that we
play here, I make sure I take my teammates for
Garden Grays. Wow, Okay to know no, But also I'm
not gonna I went to Shanahans last week actually, okay,
And I feel like I've talked about it before, Like
I love Shaded Hands. It just wasn't the same. I
hadn't been there in a couple of years, though, but
it just wasn't the same.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
We didn't you like?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
The steak wasn't seasoned enough, it was kind of dull.
Sides weren't very good. The drinks are fine, but drink.
I can get drinks anywhere though.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
You know, Mike still got a lot of connections in this.
You know, I'm just saying, be you know, be careful.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Well, I might have to go to Perry's today. My
six year old is begging me to go to Perrys
Perry Park Meadow. And that's how I know, like Harry's
Pizza Perry. That's how I know my kids are bougie. Figure.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Who could have seen that coming?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Like, oh my god, kids, I could I could never imagined.
But I only have one boogie kid and it's a
six year old girl. She's like, Dad, you know, I
just we should go to Perry's. I would ask my
mom to go to Pizza Hut, not pay. I would
ask my mom and go to Shaky's. I don't He's pizza.
I've never even been Shaky. It's old school. It's gone.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm just about to ask is it's still here? Pizza
Pizza Hut for me?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Have you ever been a fire on the mountain?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yes, have you been? I have not wings wings, they
have vegan wings. So I really love well, good for
you like that.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
You seriously I should have known what you agree to
have great vegan wings.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
How do they make I'm just I'm curious. How only
a minute, how do you make a vegan wing?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, you don't even know when you eat, say tan,
okay tan.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
So that's why I can do this. S E I
T A n tan. Yeah, okay, that is a flavor.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
It's a it's a type of you don't even know.
Look at your googling and you're the damn vegan.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
It's it's made of We just admit that you didn't
know that. You had to look at you you're looking
it up on the computer. I just know it's it's
like a meat substitute. It's it's made from like it's
like it's an a protein thing. It's like made from
wheat and stuff like that, so wheat and soy satan.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, but I was looking at if I go to
fire on the mountain, by the mountain, I say, hey,
give me one of those vegan wings and make it
a little satan.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
We don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
You make it with the sauce, whatever sauce you want.
So they just sauce the satan.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Yeah that sounds awful, definitely sound it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
At all at all but fire in the mountain.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But where is it at? They have two of them.
They have one downtown. Okay, I'm not going downtown.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Where else all that towards that way.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
I want a little high. And then they got one.
I don't mind going to low High. I just don't
want to go downtown. Yeah, I think I want a
little high. But yeah, phenomenal.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Also, we had a listener said Steakhouse ten. I forgot that.
I like that too. I do like Steakhouse ten, but
I was so confused the first time I went.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
There, Eddie V. Somebody recommended is real.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Good, Frisco. Listen.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
I think Shanahan's is real good too. I go there
every now and then.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Dang it, Ryan, you could listen, man, I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
I don't. I don't. I don't need meat.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
I mean I eat fish once in a while. But
if you don't eat meat, how can you eat fish?
And what's what's the thinking?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
It's it's more for the the omega three's and the protein.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
It's it's my doctor for that, right.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
It's somewhat yeah, but by my doctor recommended that a
couple of years ago.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Because did your doctor recommend you go vegan. No, okay, No,
did I.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Stay away from my red meat?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yes, red meatstero? Yeah, exactly what it was. It was
all cholesterol like.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
This wasn't like some kind of social thing like I
wasn't trying to make some kind of stand.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
It was my cholesterol is like four hundred and fifty.
Oh you're LDL when I was yes, when I was
in my thirty Well you don't want that. No, No,
it was bad.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It was like that so bad. Do you know what
I think would help?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Yep? Oh, gosh, he's.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Working with the ALI enough now I could just look
at him sort of nod.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Get yourself cleaned up here. Here's a lot of things there.
You go, keep saying your questions or comments. I guess
here on the text line, if you have other steak
houses so that we can recommend to our.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Good Eddie V's is good steakhouse? Ten is good?
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Well somebody literally just said I usually take every chance
to jump on Ryan, but those fake meat things from
Fire on the Mountain are bomb dot com.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
He had some of them Satan wings or whatever.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It is, and we all know that was his Ryan
texting from his other number.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, this person calling me a slur here, Yes it's slur. Yeah,
it is considered pescatary. And I never said I was vegan. Well,
the the word he used, which one. Yeah, it's from
this real three one seven. You're about to be blocked
by the way. Oh oh oh oh, I just saw that. Yeah,
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you can't use that word.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
No, not at all. Come on, man, Yeah, we can
adults here use your words. You don't have to beat
viol or anything like that. And that's the issue with today,
you know, just you know us agree with somebody doesn't
mean you need to sit there and and tear them
down or call them names from why can't we treat people?
But also I will say this, you wouldn't say that
to somebody's face because you get punched in the face.
From the seven to one to nine Shakey's was the bomb?
(07:19):
Oh Dave pat Oh yeah, I know you, I know
you like man.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Listen, it was it was the place to eat anyways.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yes, and so that person is saying that, yeah, and
you meet but yeah, there's uh the uh the Satan
and people are saying it sounds like satan. It does
sound like satan. I mean maybe this I'm mispronouncing it,
but it's s C I T A N. And the
wings are are pretty phenomenal.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Oh I thought okay, And seven to nine seventy one
Shelby said Elways is gone and Creek it is all right.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Oh wow, surprising. I thought that was like a staple.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Oh there's one of their report Oh there is, yeah, terminal.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Uh the b Bee concours nice.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
All right, wellcome back.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I do want to ask you guys about JK Dobbins
because JK actually had a heck of a game.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Against your Cleveland Browns last year.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
So I want to ask a little bit about what
you saw from JK and what we can expect. Thank
you for all the people that have now let me
know that I'm pescatarian. Yes I'm I'm fully aware of that.
I haven't said I'm being about eight years ago.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
It'd probably make to kill me. Your stomach would be.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I had something that had a little bit of bacon
in it a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh brutal.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Oh instantly was like, how quick did it? So you
just have to poop both?
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Yes, so you do get nauseous, nauseous, and then yeah,
your stomach is doing backflips. You know that dumb moment
of like, I just say something that's really not How
long did.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
It take for the like kind of kick in for
you to start feeling sick?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Probably half less than half an hour? Yeah, I was. Yeah,
it was the rest of the ass.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
So if you ever decided not to be a vegan,
then you wanted to get back to, yeah, some form
of normalcy.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Are you saying you couldn't? Could you eat a bite?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Do you gradually work your way back into that or
it's a good question.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I really don't. I wouldn't even know where to begin
with that.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
I think you'd probably wanted to slowly, like anything to
introduce it. You know. I think it's like if you
go to the gym, like, you don't go there and
start lifting the heaviest weights you possibly can. You'd probably
hurt yourself, right, So I'm just kind of a similar deal.
So I do want to ask you about JK. Dobbins
because we're talking about Adric Estime a little bit ago.
He fourteen carries eighty five yards, two touchdowns. He had
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two catches for twenty yards against your Cleveland Browns. Are
you not a fan of JK? Because you're talking about
Oddrick estime as a guy that you're keeping an eye
on or not reading too.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Much in time.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Oh no, this is more just about estime establishing himself
in the league, because as a young guy, it's either
you get on the field or you get on the couch.
You know, it's only so long you're going to go
without playing and before they find somebody cheaper and younger
that can do what you do. And that's that's literally
the whole goal. The manu you get into the league,
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they're trying to replace you. I love the way JK. Dobbinson.
I've been a fan of JK. Dobbins since his Ravens days,
you know what I mean. And when we talked about
it earlier this year, I talked about how him and
Nick Chubb, him or Nick Schub would be a great
fit for this different Broncos team. And now that they
did bring JK. Dobbinson, it just brings it. And then
they drafted R. J. Harvey Secd a round. It puts
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all the heat on estimate.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Okay, so him, Oh yeah, I love JK.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Dobbins game. Okay, Oh yeah, I always have. And it's
just a matter of what scheme he's playing in you
know what I mean? He did great last year in
that charged with with hardball and charges because they were
trying to run the ball down your throat. And then
when and obviously Baltimore a run first team, you know,
he did great there. So this for me, though, it
signalizes that, you know, the Broncos seem like they're going
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to start trying to run the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Dave we show to reference this, but I was thinking
about it earlier.
Speaker 1 (10:58):
Today, Naji Harris is basically making the same amount of
money as JK Dobbins. The Chargers decided to go Naji
Harris over JK Dobbins. I gotta be honest, I think
I'd rather.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
Go the other way.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
What do you think? What which would you rather have?
Naji Harris or JK Dobbins.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I would if both players were healthy, I would take JK.
Dobbins by. Not not a huge amount, but not a
little amount either a substantial amount. I think JK Dobbins
has more explosive ability than Naja Harris. Nase's you know,
a battering ram. He's tough, uh, he falls forward. Shelby
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thinks he's a katy, but it's because he played him
twice you know, I not not. You know, I've talked
to Nause about what he thinks about the Browns front.
Not even gonna say it, so no, but I think
I think JK. Dobbins more more explosive. Yeah, I believe JK.
Dobbins is less a more it's more explosive.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
The issue is so that Natre Harrison stasts healthier, and
I think and that's I guess where your idea is
coming from. Because when you needed JK. Dobbins, when you
were in Chargers and you needed JK. Dobbins down the stretch,
he was hurt. So I think that had to have played.
That have to have played. You know, it's crazy, like
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what my friends does this to me all the time
when we're playing Call of dudey or something like that
and just start yowing and I'm just like dogs because
I hate cats. Well it's something because I hate cats,
hate hate cat flock h a t E. Really, Oh
my god, I hate cats. They're satan. I just like,
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oh my god, I can't. I hate cats with a passion.
And you know what, my wife really tried this on
me because my six year old and the youngest, the
four year old wanted a cat, and she's like, are
you really not gonna get the Macadami mess screwdom cats?
Like not in my house. No, you can get a dog.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Like you know that's not going to work out for
you long term, but I'm just telling it.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I guess I'll be single.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I have a cat. Well listen, sorry, let me read
the tea leaves you. You're gonna get a cat otherwise
you will be single. That's how that's good. My life
is a care it's the kids.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
And I'm like, you know what I was like, I
told her, well, you can get a dog when daddy retires.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
You're trying to talk your daughter out of what she wants.
She wants a dog, she wants a cat. No, she
wanted a dog. So we've had just talked about a dog, but.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Then we want a cat.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
A cat is just less maintenance and so with how
much we travel, a cat is more doable.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But I hate I know very few dudes that hate.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
What do you mean?
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I'm just saying no, And the fact that you do
and your kids want a cat and you are denying.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I will keep denying them a cat. I hate them.
That breaks you on this.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, you're you're gonna lose this one. I'm with Dave,
You're gonna lose this one.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Aren't you a cat guy?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Though I have a couple of cats exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
That's what I'm saying. Like, No, Like, here's the thing.
I never grew up I had dog too well. I
would say this though, like I really don't. I'm not
the biggest animal person in the world. We're gonna break
you on that, because when you grew up in the hood,
you don't really mess with other people's animals, and you
don't really mess with animals like that.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
What you're saying, nobody in the hood has a dog.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
But I'm not messing with somebody else's dog. That's what
I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
You, you kind of not asking you to mess with
somebody else's dog.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
I'm asking you to get a dog for yourself. We
had a dog, mister Jingles. What happened to him? My
mom let her go, let him go. No, I don't
know if this is true, but Mama always told me
she gave him away to a family on a farm.
Mister Jingles was over here running around free. The dog
was Jingle. He was a pit mixed with black lab Okay,
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he was a nice He was a really nice dog.
But I still to this day thinking mister Jingle's running
on that farm. Yeah, happy, mister Jingles. Appreciate you all's loyalty.
I'm doing some crazy. I came home from basketball practice
and he was gone. That's how my mom did, is
that I literally came home from practice.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
No, we did not know or anything. And I came
home one day and he was gone.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
That's when you put your mom out.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
I did.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Already people are standing with you on this.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Somebody said, I can tell Ryan was a cat guy
before now. I was a dog guy.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
Was basically my entire life until Shelby about the break.
It wasn't until like the last year or so that we've.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Just had more cats in the house. That's it. And listen,
I understand you don't like Najee Harris. You don't like cats.
All of a sudden, it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I enjoyed Naja Harris.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
I like.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
I like Najea Harris. I think he's a good bag.
I just don't. I hate cats. Always will, Okay, always will,
and I will elaborate. Someone asked me to elaborate on
the words. Let go about mister Jingles. Let go. He
was given away. It wasn't just let go, let free.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
But why you know what, You're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
To ask my mom about that one, because I was
heartbroken when I got home and mister Jingles wasn't there.
Do you know where mister Jingles is from?
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Where we where's from?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Do you know what the name mister Jingles is from?
Speaker 2 (16:19):
No, the Green.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Mile, the Mouse?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Oh yeah, okay, I forgot that too, I forget about that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
So Michael Clark, Duncan Tomas, Yeah, a classic. All right, Well,
keep sitting history texts five six six are on the
kaway Comma spirital text line.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
All right. I was the thing about this earlier today.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I wanted to ask you guys because sometimes we get
into this part of the offseason, we're getting ready for
the NFL season, and people start to project what teams
are going to be, right, good teams, bad teams.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Et cetera.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
From a player's perspective, I guess I want to know
about about bad teams because like every year, there are
teams that show up and we think they're gonna be
bad and they're gonna be good. Brounks are example last year,
right where people picked them at five and a half
wins overall, right, and they ended.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Up getting to ten. So that's us as fans and
then maybe analysts.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
What about from a team's perspective, like like when you're
in the locker room, because I imagine as a player,
you always believe that you can be a good team, Like,
no matter what, you guys will talk yourself into being
a good team. So I guess to start with you
real quick, Shelby, Like, from a perspective of player, what
is that process like of like, hey, we may not
be very good, but we we're gonna talk ourselves as
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being really good.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Hey, no matter what, no matter how good anybody outside
the building thinks. You know, when you're in that building,
everyone believes that they're gonna win every game. And if
you don't, you know that's I always say this, You know,
you better believe you want to win every game because
if not, we don't need you. Because that belief is
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belief is part of how you aren't actually, you know,
doing the things you need to do, because if you
don't believe it, you won't achieve it. See that, I
always say, if you don't believe, then it won't happen.
And so, and that's why in a locker room, in
a facility, you truly have to be together about this
and really believe together that you're going to be good.
Like all those years in Denver when I was here,
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every year every game we thought, we went into the
game expecting to win that game. Like granted we lost
more than we won, but the belief and the preparation
that they were still all there. You can't go to
it no matter if you go to any team in
the league, everyone's going to be out there working and
expecting to go out there win. That's the beautiful thing
about the NFL. Though. The talent difference is so slight.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I wonder if that part of it.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Yeah, the talent difference is so slight that any team
could win and on any day, you know. And and
that's the best part about the NFL.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
So why do we see that, Dave?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Why do we see teams that a lot of us
will go well on paper, it doesn't look like a
very good team, but they still find success. Is there
something about the makeup of the locker room, the culture
is it?
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Is it that kind of deal?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
I think it's.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Excuse me, I think it's a combination of things. I mean,
you have you have to have the right makeup in
the locker room. You've got to have the right kind
of leadership. There are some intangible things that I believe
in that really good teams have, and they've got they've
got enough veterom presence that sort of runs the locker room.
The coaches in the NFL don't run the locker room
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that the squad does. So you got to I think
it's a head coach in the NFL, you got to
do everything you can to make sure that you know
your two guys on defense or three your two or
three guys on offense.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
You're two or three.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Guys and special teams, the vets that they got to
handle on that locker room, and if one of those
young cats gets out of out of line, you know
those veterans are going to take care of it. Then
there's an expectation level. How do we practice? Uh, And
again I think the really good teams a lot of
that comes from the players, like, hey man, listen, that's
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not how we do it. Player led, that's that's not
gonna be good enough in practice. I mean the last
thing a young player. Now, these young guys nowadays are
a little bit different, But it used to be the
last thing a young player wanted to hear from was
a stern comment from a veteran that he respected or
feared or both. It's like, hey, you know what, you
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better get your ass and gear. Like you don't have
to say that too many times to young guys that
are made of the right stuff. So I'm big on
veteran leadership in the NFL, and and that's why. I mean,
that's why guys like Shelby are still valuable and he's
played for twelve years because he's going to do the
right thing. He's gonna say the right thing. If something
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needs to be said to a young dude, he's not
afraid to do it. You have to have guys like
that in on good teams.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah, I just think, you know, veteran leadership, like David
saying this is so important no matter what the team.
It could change the mindset of a team that won
two games a year before and they win ten games
the next. Obviously, like I said, the talent differences just
so slight, but the best teams in the NFL are
all player led teams. Granted, the coaches have to give
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some type of blueprint sure, and the players are the
ones that are going to behold that blueprint, you know
what I mean? And I just and that's how it
has to be because when we're out in that field,
you better be able to be held accountable for not
doing your job from one of us, because if that's
would have been like, Hey, I'm working my ass off
holding this b gap up. I need you to come
hit that a gap.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
But what is ownership? What kind of role does ownership
play in all this?
Speaker 1 (21:44):
Because I remember for years, especially when the Broncos were
in a bit of flux there between mister B and
then now what we have with the Poulton Pinners, there
was this kind of discussion about, well, the reason why
the Broncos are struggling so much is because ownership is
not in place. It's not a a very firm dynamic there.
And we've seen good ownership situations and in all sports
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really we've seen that ownership situation. So how much does
ownership play a role specifically in the on field winning
h not much.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
I guess it will help out if if you talk
about ownership, ownership is investing in the team, investing in
the facility, giving you you know, every opportunity to better yourself.
That's the ways ownership can help you, not even on
the field before you even touched the field, and invest
in your facility for recovery and you know, and investing
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just in you as a player. If those owners always
will get the most out of their players because they're
investing in them. But ownership only can do so much.
But it's not much they really can do on the field.
But they can't help you get a better product to
the field.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Okay, yeah that makes sense. What about you, Dave? I
mean I don't think.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Ownership has any real impact in terms of I mean
ownership has impact in terms of who they hire.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
So they have to go.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Through their process of making sure that they're they're bringing
in the right head coach and the head coach and
then has to sell a here's who I want on
the staff, and here's who I want the strength and
conditioning coach to be, and the trainers and here's you
know that sort of thing. But in terms of the
actual locker room, no, I don't think there's I don't
think there's much even really good owners like the ones
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the Broncos have, you know, Greg and Carrey I think
they're respected by players, but in terms of like setting
the culture in that locker room, I just don't think
that's their thing.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
A couple questions here on the Kaba Commas spirital text line.
Question for you guys, did you guys ever deal with
a poisonous person in the locker room?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I were real bad.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
It just affected everybody's attitude, confidence, et cetera. I just
wonder what happens at that point, because it's all about
belief and faith, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Oh, I had like a cancer in the locker room,
you know. I feel it's very It's very few guys
that have the playing status and around the league, that
type of status to go in and be a cancer
because most other guys, the NFL is ruthless. They have
no problem shipping you out and finding somebody else if
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you're affecting.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
The locker room.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
But if you're a star player, you do get a
little bit of that of that leeway. But I haven't.
I've been lucky. I've been in locker rooms with you know,
Charles Woodson. I've been in locker rooms with Khalil Mack.
I've been in locker rooms with Von Miller. You know
what I mean, And all those guys helped themselves up
to the very professional standard. So I've been very lucky
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in that aspect. And but I have had I have
heard stories of you know, you know, certain guys like
the abs of the world, you know what I mean,
like kind of like bringing the locker room down.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Do you ever experienced anything like that, Dave Cancers in
the locker room?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
I mean no, not, not really.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
I think I think that was a different I mean,
that was a different era of football, and I think,
I mean, players were much less likely because I think
partially due to the money, right nobody was making. I mean,
we were making good money based on what everybody else
in the world was making. But in terms of comparing
salaries in the mid seventies to mid eighties with what
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these guys are making now, no, I think we would
have been much more prone. I don't think a guy
like Antonio Brown is gifted as he is from a
football standpoint, I don't think that that sort of behavior
would have played well back in the mid eighties in
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locker rooms.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
I think there would have been.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You know, there weren't there weren't cell phones, you know,
they're there, there would have.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I just feel there.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Would have been on a lot of teams, there would
have been some conversation had about Amen, that's that's not
how we do things.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I don't know if you guys saw the story earlier
today with Boogie Cousins where he said that he had
heard that there were multiple fistfights this season in the
Phoenix Suns locker room. Now Kevin Durant has come out
after the fact and said that that never ever happened,
and these same.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Bookie Cousins just got thrown out of the same like
for the rest of his life, and that one.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
The same exact one.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
And and in fact, because he did an interview on
FanDuel TV on their NBA show that they have Lou
Williams I think he's part of it and Chandler Parsons
and anyway, so he said it on that and they
were kind of taken, like, whoa, are you breaking some
dew Sierra Like he's like, oh, yeah, I've heard that
there's multiple fist fights.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
They've deleted that video.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Now I watched it that yeah, they deleted that video,
which doesn't happen very often when you like get so
much pushback on something that you're just like, we want
to distance ourselves all the way from this.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So so does that tells me it that probably didn't happen.
I mean, whi elst would they delete the video?
Speaker 4 (27:06):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
Why would you delete the video like that?
Speaker 3 (27:09):
So maybe he thought it and then maybe they said, hey,
do we have proof? Nope, we don't have any proof.
Well get it out of we're getting that down.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
I guess I thought about it in terms of, like, boy,
I mean, Kevin Durant comes down and says that, and
I think I guess if your FanDuel, you're like, well,
we don't really want to push back on Kevin.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I love Kevin Durant's game. Who's Kevin Durant go in
fist fight?
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I mean?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
But I mean, yeah, you know any of those guys though,
like you know, Devin Booker, I don't. I don't see it,
Well didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I hate I just hate stories like that because what
you know, we hear stories about locker rooms and stuff
all the time, and this is like, well, I've heard
stories about locker rooms I've been in, and I'm like,
that didn't happen, you know what I mean, And so
it says, I see how sensational a lot of a
lot of these storytellers can get. Like we can't you
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can't believe every part of Jeff Teek's stories or DeMarcus
cousins stories, you know what I mean, Like a lot
a lot of it is just for you know, clicks.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
But it's so tough. I agree with you. But where's
it coming from, like to just invent that, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I mean, he might have he might have had a
conversation with one of his boys in Phoenix, who may
his great friends with you know, the Eleventh Man, whomever
that might be in Phoenix, And hey man, you hear
they I mean they got into a brawl in the
locker room.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
It could be as simple as that. I mean, it
could be.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
We we got some stuff like on Russell Westbrook towards
the end of the season, remember that, I mean talking
about the shouting matches that they were getting into and
some of the dissension that was happening inside the locker room.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
A g pushback he did on that.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
But I I mean, I could see I don't I
don't have any information on this, but I could I
could see. I think Russell Westbrook is an emotional, emotional guy,
but I could see a little bit of discourse. By
the way, there's a Denver group attempting to set a
record for the most Ryan's at a baseball game, and
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that is tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Are you yes.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
They have nothing to talk about today?
Speaker 2 (29:17):
Oh god, look it. They have the organizer of Oh
my god, Ryan and he's there in Denver.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Are you going kind of looks like you with sunglasses
on you?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Is this the whole like all middle don't do that,
don't Yeah, I got a side with Ryan on that one.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No.
Speaker 4 (29:38):
But what I will say, going back to the ownership thing,
going back to the ownership thing real quick, I will
say ownership can actually breathe terrible locker rooms. That's actually
they can actually affect the locker room negatively more than
they can positively, based off of how you uphold the standard.
If you let your star players just get away of everything,
it's going to ruin the locker room. People are going
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to start gettingjealous, people are going to start getting mad.
So that's one area where ownership can actually negatively affect
the locker room is accountability. Now, are you gonna hold
everyone accountable? Are you going to tell you? Are you
going to tell everyone? Oh? Just let him do what
he wants to. He's he's our star. Because sometimes that
right there, can lead to a toxic locker room.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That makes some sense, And I do feel like as
we're sort of blending NBA NFL conversations here, I imagine
it's kind of different, like the policing that would happen
in a nearly what is it seventy man like locker room? Right,
because you got the fifty three plus you have the
practice squad. I mean that there's a lot of guys
in there, and in varying levels of experience, varying levels
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of contracts. The NBA locker room, we're talking fifteen guys, right,
I mean it's a little bit different, and the stars
are the stars. In an NBA locker room, there's like, hey,
you're a starter and you're a backup and your whatever else, right,
I mean, a guy that's barely hanging on kind of
deal is so different. And in the NFL you got
eleven on both sides, and then even the death guys
can be quote unquote starters because of the amount of
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snaps that they're ultimately going to play.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Yeah, and the NBA, though, you got a lot of
guys who and all stars that just go rogue and
do their own thing, like we've heard, you know they have.
It's a whole different world in the NBA, where you know,
they don't have to fly with the team, they can
fly their own, they can fly with their own jay, right, Well,
it's crazy, like you know, you hear stories. I remember
it was one. I think James Harden was like two
hours late to the flight. It's it's like, Okay, that
(31:27):
would never happen in the NFL exactly, that would never happen.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
There's like sixteen flights per week, right and the Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday and a Monday. I mean there's I mean, I
guess buys there's a whole bunch of flights fifteen or sixteen, fourteen,
fifteen sixteen whatever. Not one team would sit and wait
for a guy, for any guy.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
For two hours. I don't even think they would wait
for him at all.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Thirty minutes.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You might get somebody like if the quarterback that it
depends on who it is. Yeah, had a flat tire
and called and said, I'm running twenty minutes late.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Okay, maybe, but you're.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Gonna get the stink guy when you walk in that
cabin from the head coach like flat tire or not.
You should have been here, but nobody else that thing
is taken off.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
And that's the difference between the NFL and the NBA.
You know one's the player likely, you know one's not.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, you're talking about the eyes on that. I mean,
NFL is just far superior in so many ways. And
it's not to say that I haven't enjoyed the NBA
Finals here, but it still is going to barely hold
a candle to the NFL when it comes up. Anyways,
you guys see the NHL ratings that came out.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Did not oh horrible, horrible, like unbelievably.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
They lost.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I was one of them that watched. They lost to.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
Their own All Star, the Frozen now the Frozen Four,
the four Nations they lost to the four they did.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
The finals performed worse than that. They performed worse than
w NBA games, like get the hell out of here.
I'm telling people are tuning.
Speaker 4 (33:04):
In for Kaitlyn Clark. You know, obviously, w NBA they're
they're pushing all.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Kaitlyn Clark wait National Hockey League Stanley Cup games through
fewer viewers than a regular season w NBA game.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Kaitlin Clark fever.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
I assume it's probably when they played the Liberty Fever.
Liberty probably definitely little w NBA experts. Hey, my thing
is this is like, I have daughters, so I got
to like them. I know you do, but this wasn't
as big when when you were raising your daughter as
when you know, as mine.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
So I like, I mean, I haven't watched the full game,
but if the TV's on and Kaitlin Clark is playing,
I'll watch a little bit.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Man, it doesn't matter for me if Kaitlyn Clark is playing.
I just enjoy WNBA because it's actually like good, fundamental
team basketball other than the fever. Who is this Kaitlin
Clark just shooting it up? But other than like, I
enjoy it and I encourage, you know, my sons and
my daughters to watch it and just yeah like it.
Just you know, it's a goal that if let's say
(34:09):
my daughter decides to play, she has something that she
can actually strive for.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
I get that they were down from four point one
seven million last year to two point five.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Ooh ooh, that's a big drive drop.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So that's like more than thirty percent significant you lost, Yeah, how.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Many viewers for an WNBA game? I can pull that
up here a little bit.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
But I saw that earlier that they lost to U
Kaitlyn to a Kaitlyn Clark game.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Well, so yeah, that's tough, but that's the reality of it. Honestly,
I'm not gonna lie to you. I did not even
see a single second of the NHL Stanley Cup Finals
at all. And it's just it's not necessarily because I
don't like hockey. It was more just because it was
I barely ever saw it talked about. I barely saw
(34:56):
it on TV commercials and I really didn't even know
where they were for where they were in the playoffs,
I mean anything like that.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
He's a perfect encapsulation, And we've talked about this before, Davis,
a perfect capital encapsulation of how they market their product right,
And we've said for years they just don't do a
great job marketing, especially their stars. That that has been
something that they have woefully missed on over the years.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
It's a niche sport and I think you have to.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I watched it because I sort of got into the storyline.
You know, a team from Canada had not won the
Stay in the Cup since nineteen ninety three, that continues.
Edmonton had won it since I think nineteen ninety. Florida
had been to the previous two Stanley Cup finals one
to one, lost one. They won last year, and here
they are Edmonton has home ice, So there were some
(35:49):
there were some storylines in there. And with you know,
with Conor McDavid, you get the best player in the
world and drive title another great player. But Florida had just,
you know, just the kind of gritty, sort of defensive
minded team and they had much better play in the net.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
So I enjoyed it.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
On the on the text line, someone and this is
a good question, someone said, do those ratings for hockey
include Canadian viewers? And I have.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
No, did not, no, no, this one did not know.
I can tell you the Canadian viewership here in a second.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
They're not slacking. I bet that was high. It was.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It was.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
It was higher obviously than than the US. I had
it here.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Daniels, but they drunk some Jack Daniels, all.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Right, Well, we'll come back. I do want to ask
you guys. Nick Benita will get to that next
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