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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We do have the text come in during the break
from doctor Conrad Fits down there in Colorado Springs, who said, guys,
imagine walking across the.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Floor on your heels.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
The action requires you to dorse the flex the foot
opposite of Planter flex, which is what we were talking
about when we were talking about the angle with the
tibby and all that and player's dors the flexing. I guess, so, yeah,
I need somebody to explain this to me, like I'm
five at the end of the day, but that that
definitely helps give me a mental image of yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I tried.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Actually, so walking on your heels and then if from that,
if you flatten, if you drop your toes and you
flatten your foot, then your your your knee is actually
out over your toes and that position you can feel
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it puts, especially me, puts pressure on your achilles.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I I don't know if that's what he's talking about. Well,
that's what they were talking about.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
That's the quote I got was talking about with that
dorsse flex.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I didn't know what that meant.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So when I was talking at that, so he's telling
us what the dorst flex is, and that's like walking
on your heel and putting.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That straight dorsa or dorsal.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Uh d o r s I flex so do dorst flex? Yeah, okay,
so you know this is all news time. I am
in no way an expert in any of this. I
just went down the rabbit hole today. You know my
cre assid he got peaked and then I wound up
spent it two and a half hours. You know, this
is what happens, uh when I do this is one
I zoned in on stuff I do that.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
This is what happened with Uh is that Justin Tucker story?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I was actually uh tracking, I was tracking that one
down the Baltimore Banner store. Baltimore Banner beat me to it. Man,
I'm a one man shop. They beat me to it.
They had they had eight guys working the story. I'm
down at the Senior Bowl. I got wind to this thing.
I went to dinner with our gud buddy and Rapport.
I'm sitting there talking. He's like, I got nothing for you, man,
He's like, you're you're ahead of me on this, uh
with this Justin Tucker stuff? And sure enough today he
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winds up getting the ten game suspension accused of sexual
was kind of by sixteen massage therapists now, and he
was trying to claim back at the time when it
was three that it was all nonsense and saying that
he denied the wrongdoing, call it an equivalently false desperate
tabloid fodder.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Which well, he's maintained that like the entire time, right right.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And I will tell you whatever you think of me.
I have seen enough to know that he's saying that,
and that is not true. I've seen enough to know
that is not true. They ultimately wound up and this
is not Tony Busby, by the way. This is Michael
Belski and Katie Dickinson or the rep. The attorney's the
record for most of these women. So people who think
Tony Busby generates stuff or whatever, this is not Tony Busby.
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There are sixteen women that have file suit all total,
and I would say that there's probably closer to twenty
five or twenty six of them that that at least
have contributed to, even if they don't want their names
on the lawsuit, have contributed to to come against this anyway.
He gets suspended ten games. That starts cut down day
in August. After cut that day in August somebody signs
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even if he's not signed, so he is eligible for
reinstatement in November, even if he's not signed.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So you're saying he right now is has been cut. Yes,
he was weighed by the Ravens with three years not.
If he's not signed for the season, then his suspension
plays out and in week ten he's eligible to sign
with somebody and can play immediately week eleven.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But yeah, basically he.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Is What the hell kind of I mean, what kind
of suspension is that?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, he's died.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I agree, he's It's a suspension that can be served
even if you're not with the team. So you're suspended
without pay. If somebody signs you, you're still suspended without pay.
But that ends on November eleventh, and then he is
eligible to play for somebody again.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Wow, I don't know that I've ever heard the NFL
with that kind of eating.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
The Tucker's agent, Rob Roche, said that they're disappointed in
the decision, that Justin's always striven to carry himself in
a way that would make the family and community proud. Uh.
On the other side of that, the attorneys representing these
women said it would have been simple for mister Tucker
many months ago to just apologize and acknowledged wrongdoing. Instead,
he had falsely attacked the credibility of the victims. This
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was completely unnecessary, et cetera, et cetera. Neither side is
happy with this, apparently so.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well so from some of the lawyers of the alleged
victims that they're saying that had he simply acknowledged wrongdoing
and apologized, none of this would have happened.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I find that very hard to believe that's what they're saying.
And you know, those suits, I guess are still sort
of ongoing. But the punishment from the league, I.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Mean, how do you suspend a guy that is not
on a team, and then if he remains unemployed, the
suspension counts as though he were employed, And if he
stays unemployed until week eleven, he then could sign with
a team with the team and be able to kick immediately.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How in the world that makes no sense to me.
I think it's ridiculous. And some of the womens and
quotes that came out from that one, I don't think
it's enough. One said he got ten weeks. We have
to deal with this the rest of our lives. One
of them said glad something was done, was nice to
feel heard, and then one said it was the bare
minimum and added that she had to leave her career
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because of Tucker's actions.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So when when in in those lawsuits is that one lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's a class action suit, multiple laws, one lawsuit with
multiple defenders. So when when when did the first indiscretion happen? Well,
for decade, over a decade, this is not new behavior,
and this is well well known throughout the Baltimore community community.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This is well known. You know, well known.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
If he's coming into your massage parlor you knew to
you know, have more than one person there, have a wit,
you know those kinds of things. So towards the end
of this, this started happening in a price in private
settings obviously because his reputation preceded him as far as
this went. Uh, it was interesting his kicking started dropping
off last year, tough year, but it started dropping off
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when his wife found out that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
This suit was coming.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, that would make sense, Like.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Everybody's wondering how he just suddenly fell off, And there
is a direct correlation between when that fell off and
when they all all that was going on. So anyway,
as far as that goes, suspended ten games for him,
and I don't know if we'll ever see him play
in the NFL again after the performance last year, I imagine, Dah,
as far as that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Dave, you're over on the d NVR, the DMVR podcast stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
The clips started coming out today. Oh they did?
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah? Are that Pat Bryan Our good friend Benny Fowler.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, asked me to uh to drive down and and
do a podcast with him, and Uh, I think I
think highly of Benny. I think he's gonna be really
really good, good guy, and I think he's going to
be really good. He's well spoken and he's gonna good
good sense obviously of of football and other sports. So yeah,
we talked a little bit about the Broncos receiving room
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and he had in an interesting question. He had talked
to Mark Schlereth I think the previous week or two
weeks before and asked stink and that he asked me
if the nineteen ninety eight Broncos Super Bowl thirty three
championship team were to play the twenty fifteen Super Bowl
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fifty Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Championship team, who did I think would win?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Oh, that's a good one, and I honestly I had
never had that question, and I'd never ever ever thought
about that.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I just hadn't.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But when he asked, I mean, you have to come
up with an answer. So I mean, when you stop
and think about it, just breaking it down momentarily. The
ninety eight offense, I mean, Shannon Sharp's the Hall of Famer,
Elway's the Hall of Famer, Terrell's the Hall of Famer.
Rod Smith could be. I mean, Eddie is close. So
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you've got what you've got four. Wait, you've got Shannon, Elway, Terrell's,
so you've got three that are already in the Hall
of Fame. On defense for the twenty fifteen team, I mean,
Vaughn's going to be in. Is there any other defensive
player that you think will eventually find his way to
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ken Well where de Marcus ware? Ye, he's already in.
So that's two past one. Vaughn will be in. So
that would be to anybody else? Do you keep make it?
Does Chris make it?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
See?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Chris would be the next one that I would say, Hey,
maybe Chris would.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Chris is a Ring of Fame guy, but you don't
know if quite quite Hall of Fame oh, I would
say so, because he sort of revolutionized that that slot corner,
that nickel corner. He became the blueprint for you. You
had that player, I would suggest he should. I don't
know that he will. He probably has.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Enough notoriety that he will. So you wind up with
what three on that team, I guess, And then you
look on.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
The other sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The ninety eight defense, I mean, I mean that team
lost two games the entire year. I mean they lost
two games in an entire NFL season. So, I mean
Alfred was there, Neil Smith was there, Romo was there.
Who am I missing?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh man?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
That was that?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
He was ninety eight Stevens still playing. Steve's in the
Hall of Fame. Uh, I can tell you real quick.
There was who else was on that team? Defensively? It
was uh, I mean it was I mean Ray Crockett
was on that team. Yeah, he had quite a few.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So the twenty fifteen edition of the Broncos offense led
by Peyton Manning, you know, I think I think yeah,
I said, I think I think they they would have
had their hands full trying to figure out, you know,
how to.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Move the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Although that team was really good in terms of coming
up with ways to move the ball at critical times.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So I don't know, man, I.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Think the ninety eight team would have won. I mean
just the defense. Both defenses we were great. The ninety
eight team was a top ten defense statistically, but they
had a top five offense.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
The twenty fifteen team, I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Was the ninety eight team a top ten team defensively?
Points and yards?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I believe it may be like eleventh in yards.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I'd have to go back, but the big points they
were to I'd have to go back and make sure
that the yardage that was the same. But I would
say there were certainly the top three of the league,
certainly Broncos. The twenty fifteen offense was notoriously bad. It
was opportunistic based on what the defense gave them in
terms of turnovers and getting away with a few things.
I mean, we saw CJ break one, you know here
or there. Brock came in and steadied the ship a
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little bit. But yeah, it was that was interesting. John
John Mobley was on that team to the ninety eighteen whinning.
He he was certainly on the ninety seven team. Yeah,
I think he was for sure. I thought he was
on the ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
He might have. He might have been the one.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I was get everybody with the trivia question, because nobody
ever remembers who led the ninety eight team in sacks?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Who led the ninety eight team in sacks?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It's a it's a trivia question, I asked ald the
te because nobody ever gets it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It was a co it was a co thing. So
there are two guys at the same number. Uh, it
wouldn't have been Alfred Neil Smith. Uh No, a ton
of ustin there you go. Yes, you're proud of me
for that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I am, actually because most nobody ever gets that. When
everybody gets the other name fair price, nobody gets nobody
gets name.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
What a great great player Trevor was.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, but that's always That's always one that that I
think gets them, gets them on that.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, I guess I would lean to the ninety eight team.
I think the twenty fifteen defense was so good. Uh,
And I think it had been an interesting matchup. Elway
was the MVP of that Super Bowl, threw for over
three hundred yards against the Falcons. I mean, Terrell had
been the MVP of the previous year, and yet by
Terrell standard. I mean Trell went over two thousand yards
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in that season. So the matchup between the ninety eight
team and the defense of the Broncos trying to excuse me,
the twenty fifteen defense of the Broncos trying to find
a way to stop the ninety eight offense of the Broncos,
that that would have been a hell of a battle.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, both losses road loss back to back road losses,
and it winn't because it was in Miami. Yeah, yep, okay, Yeah,
I still lean ninety eight. Maybe that's uh, it's a
little bias in me. I was I was across the
division at that point in time, I think it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I was down in Arkansas at the point I was.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But I remember coming off the Kansas City years watching
Elway tear up the Chiefs over and over. It's kind
of the same feeling Broncos fans have. Now a boy,
Pat Maholmes, what do we got to do to stop
this guy? It was the same attitude Kansas City had
the eighties and nineties of John Elway. Where's just you
throw your hands up, like, what are we going to
do with that? That's a great question, though, Hike, that
is one of those hypotheticals. He also had another question
about the Courtland Sutton and expectations.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Any thinks Cortland's gonna g have fifteen hundred yards this year?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, listen, I hope he's right. I I couldn't go
that far. I mean, I think Cortland's going.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
To have a good year.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know contract here. I mean, well, there's yeah, there's
there's ample reason for him to have a good year.
And I think the fact that I mean, I'm assuming
he's going to be here, he's going to stay healthy
and all that. But again with as much and I
said this something on the podcast, with as much as
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Sean Payton has talked publicly about Pat Bryant. If I'm
I mean, I've gone through this in the NFL, where
you know your team takes a first round wide receiver,
and if you're a wide receiver in the room, that
maybe going I think I was going into my I
don't know, six seventh year. It does, it does get
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your attention. You come to camp a little bit, a
little bit ready to do battle. But I would if
I'm if I'm in the room now as a wide receiver,
I mean, I would have to make sure I was
on my p's and q's, because I just don't remember
too many coaches being as effusive in his.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Praise of Pat Bryant.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, I think it's pretty clear that Sean Payton
really thinks a lot of Pat Bryant. And and you
know what, maybe it's it's understandable you look at his
film and all the things that I think appeal to
a head coach like Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
He's good at he's tough, fifty.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
To fifty catches, he catches in traffic, he's faster than
you think, he digs safeties out in the run game,
and he's a team guy.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean, there's there's not a lot of stuff to
not like about him.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, and those little Jordan Humphrey reps have got to
go somew.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well maybe they go to Devon Bailey.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Maybe, but I'm just saying, like, there's you know, those
snaps and the Josh Rettles snaps.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He's got to go somewhere. Well, to me, you've got
three guys on the team.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now, I mean, Court's a little bigger, but you've got
Court of the Sutton, You've got Devon Bailey, you've got
Pat Bryant, yep, and they're all the sort of The
Broncos may completely disagree, but when I look at those three,
I mean, they're similar similar, so and maybe maybe that's fine,
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Maybe you wind up keeping all three. But historically, wide
receiver rooms are comprised of and I'm not saying here
in Denver, I'm just saying, historically in the league, you've
got different types of wide receivers that do different things.
If all three of those guys make the team, and
all three of them are good players, I mean, I
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haven't seen Bryant play, but they're they're going to be
asked to do very very similar things.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, it'll be it'd be fun to watch them separate
themselves in camp. But the other thing I got, I
got text messal today somebody down in uh down in
Tampa right into our buddy Dalton Reisner down there at
the Airport Riisner working out for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Be I root for him, right, Yeah, he's one of
the I can't imagine what I had. I mean, this
has been a weird thing since he left here.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, late late signings with the Vikings and all that
kind of stuff. Just sitting out there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
As far as that kind of stuff goes, I think
one of the one of the interesting things. And I
tell the story all the time. It's not too many.
We used to do the shows down at Buffalo wil Wings.
Uh you know, you know all that kind of stuff
with it. Yeah, we had the the guests out there.
Riisner was the the guy could come down for an hour,
they collect a fee, signed smatographs during the bray call
that kind of stuff, and they leave. Dalton Reisner is
the only guy I ever saw as a rookie, uh,
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come down there. After his what hour was over, he
went around to every table in that restaurant, shook the
hand everybody that came out, thanked them for coming out
and seeing them. I mean he had it put as
far as the pr portion of it, Dalton Reiser had
it down as a rookie. He made sure everybody there
got an autograph, a picture, whatever they wanted.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And then after that was done, checked out and left.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He was there a whole nother hour just making sure
everybody had a good time. And I always respected that
out of him. I think that's just who he is.
I mean, I think that's the way he was raised.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, and guys like that, I mean you you gravitate too,
and you root for and and he fell off a
little bit here late in his career, had the injury,
then leaves, goes to Minnesota late. But from all accounts,
I thought, I thought he played pretty well with the Vikings.
It's it's just been puzzling that for a league that
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is always looking for viable offensive linemen, this guy has
bounced around and has not caught on yet this year.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, Tama's Tampa's got an opening at the left guard spot,
which of course Riising are played here. The right guard's
got you got Cody mak over there, so I think
that's pretty pretty well staffed.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But they do have a spot on the.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Left side next to Tristan Wursts, and there are certainly
worse players to be playing next to than Tristan Wursts
out there, so and protecting Baker Mayfield. So we'll see
how that goes Ka Waite Sports, we gotta hit a break.
We'll be back after this. Quite a few people on
the ninety eight Broncos and that hypothetical matchup Dave on
the text line, I.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Haven't read all these so they like the Lway led Broncos.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, dave a bias to be the ninety eight Broncos.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The someone nine says, the only thing the ninety eight
team would have against it is play style and penalties
are playing with modern rules. That's the only thing that
would make it remotely close.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean, listen, I think now there are there are
Broncos players that I have talked to that in big
Al was one of them that absolutely says and like
with Fervor, believe the ninety six team was the better
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of those three teams ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight.
Ninety six team got beat at home against Jacksonville h
ninety seven to ninety eighteen, went on to win. When
the Super Bowl ninety seventeen was a wild card, had
to win two road games to get to the Super Bowl,
beat both the Chiefs and the Steelers on the road,
then beat the Packers in San Diego. The ninety eight team,
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which is the one we're talking about, to me, was
the most dominant team. I think it was one of
the most dominant teams. I think you could make a
case that I'm obviously a homer call all the games,
but I if you said, hey, the ninety eight team
would be for a single season, would be in the
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top five of the most dominant NFL teams. I think
I could make that argument with Bears in eighty five,
the Niners that one year. But the ninety eight Broncos
team again lost two games the entire season, both.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
In the road.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Patriots team had lost the Super Bowl. I mean, I
mean they they got a sixteen and oh team. They
we got beat fair and square. But that was a
pretty dominant football team too. I mean that was I
think there's a couple of RAMS teams there show on
great show on turf teams I put in that conversation,
But otherwise, I mean, man, you're probably right.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
No, which which a great show. And so the one
they won the Super.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Bowl when they beat Tennessee, yeah, you put that, you
put them in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I'd have to go back and study that one. I
they they would not, they would not come to mind.
The eighty five Bears would because they just bludgeoned people,
and they ran the forty six defense before the league
had really figured out like how to block it, and
so there were a whole bunch of guys, not that
they didn't have great players, because they did. But there
were a whole bunch of times that you had like
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guys like Wilbur Marshall and Dent, Richard Dent coming off
the edge unblocked, unblocked, so league, the league had to
do some homework in the offseason to figure out, like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How how are we going to block this? But they
would be in it.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
There was a there was a Niners team and it
might be the one that Mike Shanahan was the was
a coordinator on a ninety.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Four, eighty five and eighty seven eighty seven San Francisco.
You'd have to put in that equation. I mean, they
were a phenomenal team. Well, you're looking at it. Would
they how many they went fifty to one? I'd have
to go back to look see, I mean they wont
I'm just looking. I'm just running down the list here
of like teams that I would put in there. Ninety
one Washington, by the way. Another one I would put
in there that was that was.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That Mark Rippon. I have to go back and look here.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I think I think you could make a case that
the Broncos would be in that conversation. The ninety eight Broncos.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Thirteen in two for the eighty seven Niners.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Okay, you know they they they wired and wire, they
had the best defense and offense in the league.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
One has to be in the conversation that sure. But yeah,
I mean you got to put the ninety eight broncos.
It's funny though, the guy, because you were talking about this,
and to a man, they all say the same thing
that you that you said the ninety six team was
the best one, right, but they needed that loss against
Jacksonville to hone them into what they became in ninety
seven and ninety eight. The work ethic of the off
season between ninety six and ninety seven, because of that
loss to Accidentvill.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
To a man, they say, forged them to what they
became the following two years.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I would think that is that is true the
ninety eight team also, and I would I would challenge
people when you start looking solely at numbers, I mean
there were there were a handful plus maybe six or
seven games in which they they like in the NFL,
you just don't see this.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They took they took their dudes out. I mean Terrell Davis.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
You know, they played the Eagles and the cow the
Cowboys for sure, and I think it was the Eagles
at home that year.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I mean TD came out in the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, like I mean, I mean he would have broken Honestly,
he had over two thousand hoars rushing that year. He
would have broken who holds that, Dickerson? I think I
think Differson is the all time leader. I think I
think Terrell would have would have broken that record and
may have broken it substantially if he would have played
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like most NFL backs play.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, and that's a that's a fascinating thing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
The ninety one Washington team, though, I mean Gary Clark
Art Monk was a fun bunch.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, that was I mean that was a heck of
a team both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
That was too.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah. You had yeah ripping Georgia Kobe up front. I
think was on that offensive line with Schlereth on the
ninety one time. I have to go back, I love
I think he was. I have to go back and
look at the offensive line, I warned the tight end.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, and then on the defensive side, you had the
Wilbur Marshall, Charles Man and you know all those guys
that were to go back and look the offensive line
for that team.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Man from Oklahoma State, the defensive lineman. I can't I
can seem Yeah, good player inside tech.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
We'll give me a second.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I'm trying to go back and pull these up because
I was trying to look through the thing for a
couple of different teams.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Was it? Uh? Oh? Man? Was he was a character?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, I'm I'm drawing so much a character that we
can't remember.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Is that's that's the way it goes. We'll get it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jumpy Gathers Nope. Who else was on that team? Bobby
Wilson nope, Fred Stokes nope.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I'm running down the list. Man, I'll think of it.
We'll figure we'll have it before the end of the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
But that was one of those ones that I like,
I would definitely because I mean, and that was a
formative year's football team for me.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I mean I was you know, I was twelve years
old at that point.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So for me like watching watching that football team, that
was one of my formative year football teams. That was
the first dominant team I recalled watching because they were
fourteen to two that year.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I believe we just we just had a text been
three Zho three, six, three, eight, say been the eighty
seven nine ers lost in the divisional round, so they
can't be in that conversation at.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Eighty seven I thought it was. Yeah, I have to
go back and look, they may have. I remember they
went thirteen to two in the regular season. If that's
if I'm if I'm remembering correctly, Well, no, because there
weren't fifteen games, were there.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I'll tell you what, I will pull this up and
so that way, I'm not talking.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't think they had it.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I don't think they had an NFL's season unless oh
they said there was a strike, Yeah, strikes. You know,
did they lose the game?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, wouldn't that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Let's see here, eighty seven they went thirteen and two
and they did lose in the division round, so they can't.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
So they were wired and wire in the top off
defense that you can't call them one of the single
most dominant teams a single season dominant teams if they
get beaten the divisional round.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean it's fair, But we're also saying about a
ninety six team nowhere, Well, okay, they was you're saying
they were one of the best.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well what I said.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
What I said was the players, the players, Ryan, I
think the players felt like the ninety sixteen was the
most talented of those three teams, but they you you
couldn't say they were the best because they they lost
to the Jacksonville in a wild card game.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
By the way that that staff, that eighty seven Niners staff,
Uh you know, I mean obviously you had Walston, Seaffert
and all that, but you had Home We're and Denny Green, Sherman, Lewis,
Ray Rhodes. I mean, there's the amount of people that
were on that staff, but Peerson was on that staff.
You had so many people and the stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, and somebody said, what about Shoe was Miami? You know,
the undefeated season, the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, he'd obviously have
to put them in that conversation. Absolutely, so, absolutely, there's
a few I would have to, like twenty ten New England,
shoot Baltimore just a few years was it twenty nineteen?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
That was a pretty tough team. I would I don't
know if I call most dom I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I put that conversation.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Didn't win that they were You can't be in the
top five without having one, right all right, I'm just
going back because I mean, you know, twenty twelve Denver
was great, but they didn't win it, So right, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Did you ever have the nickname when you were when
you were in the.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
League pudding putting? No, okay like my mom my mom
told me.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
But I can't say my other nicknames?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
O man? I mean uh no, I was when nick
may ever had was like logs. Oh okay, yep, all right,
I don't know if you've you know, cal give you
you want me to give you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I have a few, I just can't say most of
them on the air.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
First of all, where'd you get them? Various different places? Well,
of course if there's different places. Of them are from xes.
Some of them are from female nicknames.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I've had that too. I mean I had that too.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But are there any you can share not on the air?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I guess, uh, I guess white chocolate was one of them.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Wait wait, wait, wait from a from a female. No,
I didn't come from a.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Female that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Came in the army from anyway.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, I just tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I tore up the Spades and Domino's tables though, Okay,
so you know I still got a pass to the barbecue,
but no Cal Rawley of the Maritors.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
He got leads to the league and his uh in
home runs. His nickname is the dumpster, the big dumper,
of the dumper, big Dumper.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And then you had the story from New York the
other day with a Mets picture. Richard Lovelady would now
like to be known by.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
His nickname Dickie.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
So he's Dicky love Lady, spelled exactly how you would
think it is. I hadn't heard that over the social media.
He loved Joe Lady, Oh love Lady. All right, Hey,
let's hope he's when when the Mets come to town.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Is it the Mets?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, with the Mets.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Let's hope he's in the rotate. Is he a picture? Yeah?
I've never heard of Dicky Lovely. He's like a new picture.
Isn't that right?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Granted?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And you're like, just get called up. I just got
called up. Yeah, just got called up. How much abuse
did that do?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Were?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
What triple A team was he with?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
I'll do some research, but yeah, I mean I love
that he chooses to go by Dickie.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It used to it used to be the Mets farm
team I think was in were they in Pawtucke or
was that the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I can't remember that the Red Sox. Let's see where
Dicky love Lady.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He's been around for a while. He started off with
the Royals back in twenty nineteen. He's been around for
a little while in the organization.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But he just came up to the uh uh, you
got cast change in their names all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
If your if your last name was love lady, unless
you just really like to scrap and you just love
to fight, would you not change your name these dames?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And he's listed everywhere is Richard love Lady. But he
made it a point when they called him up. What
were seriously were his parents high? What were his parents? Hey,
our last name is love Lady. What do you think
about calling our son Richard?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah? I mean like you were, like, I mean, this
will be funny. Were you baked with you? I had.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I had a friend of mine who is an ardent
football fan text during the break and he is absolutely right.
One of the teams that should be in there, the
eighty nine Niners. Yeah, those are the Niners that beat
the Broncos fifty five to ten.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
That was the last Is that right? Yes? Last year.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
That was the last Broncos game broadcast that I was
not doing. Wow, how about that? That's we went down
to New Orleans. We didn't stay for the game, Yeah,
but went down and did our showdown there for the
week prior.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
To the game.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
That is, Yeah, Hey, is that one coming in to night? Nope,
he's on vacation.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
He's on vacation. Oh okay, because I say that he
played in that. That was his rookie s it was
his rookie season. He tells you he's got a great
story about that being his rookie season and getting to
the Super he'sais, oh, this is great Wood Championships my
whole time or whatever.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
And then they get to the halftime of that game,
he's like, oh, we got no inswers.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, that was ugly.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That was the thing.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, this thing, I mean, he made TMZ that Richard
that he specifically requested Dickie to be called Dicky love Lady.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
By the way, Richard is a family name because dad
is also named Richard Lovely.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, listen, but you're supposed to love your son, yeah right,
I mean if your name is Richard, like and you've
had to deal with being called Richard love lady your
entire life, and you have a son, are you not
obligated to call him? I mean, why don't you nickname
his twin brother, Peter.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Trauma has that conversation come up to you and talk
to that the old lady sitting.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
There like hear me out.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I don't want to be a Richard here, but yeah,
what are we doing? I don't know anyway, It's just me. Yeah,
that to me, it was something else.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, and he requested it like this story ended up
making TMZ and I just I just wondered if you
had Greg, do you ever have any nicknames coming up?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Never any good ones.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I was always in the shadow of my older brother,
so I was always little Smith or g Dub.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Because my middle name is When was your older brother's nickname?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
None?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
For on air, okay, they called him popcn Oh. You
can just where you want to do with your mind.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
We've got a fun show tomorrow. Orlando Franklin's gonna be
in here with us. Hope you guys to ground BCT
up next here on k
We do have the text come in during the break
from doctor Conrad Fits down there in Colorado Springs, who said, guys,
imagine walking across the.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Floor on your heels.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
The action requires you to dorse the flex the foot
opposite of Planter flex, which is what we were talking
about when we were talking about the angle with the
tibby and all that and player's dors the flexing. I guess, so, yeah,
I need somebody to explain this to me, like I'm
five at the end of the day, but that that
definitely helps give me a mental image of yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I tried.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Actually, so walking on your heels and then if from that,
if you flatten, if you drop your toes and you
flatten your foot, then your your your knee is actually
out over your toes and that position you can feel
(00:49):
it puts, especially me, puts pressure on your achilles.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I I don't know if that's what he's talking about. Well,
that's what they were talking about.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
That's the quote I got was talking about with that
dorsse flex.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I didn't know what that meant.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So when I was talking at that, so he's telling
us what the dorst flex is, and that's like walking
on your heel and putting.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
That straight dorsa or dorsal.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Uh d o r s I flex so do dorst flex? Yeah, okay,
so you know this is all news time. I am
in no way an expert in any of this. I
just went down the rabbit hole today. You know my
cre assid he got peaked and then I wound up
spent it two and a half hours. You know, this
is what happens, uh when I do this is one
I zoned in on stuff I do that.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
This is what happened with Uh is that Justin Tucker story?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I was actually uh tracking, I was tracking that one
down the Baltimore Banner store. Baltimore Banner beat me to it. Man,
I'm a one man shop. They beat me to it.
They had they had eight guys working the story. I'm
down at the Senior Bowl. I got wind to this thing.
I went to dinner with our gud buddy and Rapport.
I'm sitting there talking. He's like, I got nothing for you, man,
He's like, you're you're ahead of me on this, uh
with this Justin Tucker stuff? And sure enough today he
(01:49):
winds up getting the ten game suspension accused of sexual
was kind of by sixteen massage therapists now, and he
was trying to claim back at the time when it
was three that it was all nonsense and saying that
he denied the wrongdoing, call it an equivalently false desperate
tabloid fodder.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Which well, he's maintained that like the entire time, right right.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
And I will tell you whatever you think of me.
I have seen enough to know that he's saying that,
and that is not true. I've seen enough to know
that is not true. They ultimately wound up and this
is not Tony Busby, by the way. This is Michael
Belski and Katie Dickinson or the rep. The attorney's the
record for most of these women. So people who think
Tony Busby generates stuff or whatever, this is not Tony Busby.
(02:34):
There are sixteen women that have file suit all total,
and I would say that there's probably closer to twenty
five or twenty six of them that that at least
have contributed to, even if they don't want their names
on the lawsuit, have contributed to to come against this anyway.
He gets suspended ten games. That starts cut down day
in August. After cut that day in August somebody signs
(02:54):
even if he's not signed, so he is eligible for
reinstatement in November, even if he's not signed.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
So you're saying he right now is has been cut. Yes,
he was weighed by the Ravens with three years not.
If he's not signed for the season, then his suspension
plays out and in week ten he's eligible to sign
with somebody and can play immediately week eleven.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
But yeah, basically he.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Is What the hell kind of I mean, what kind
of suspension is that?
Speaker 4 (03:27):
Yeah, he's died.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I agree, he's It's a suspension that can be served
even if you're not with the team. So you're suspended
without pay. If somebody signs you, you're still suspended without pay.
But that ends on November eleventh, and then he is
eligible to play for somebody again.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Wow, I don't know that I've ever heard the NFL
with that kind of eating.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
The Tucker's agent, Rob Roche, said that they're disappointed in
the decision, that Justin's always striven to carry himself in
a way that would make the family and community proud. Uh.
On the other side of that, the attorneys representing these
women said it would have been simple for mister Tucker
many months ago to just apologize and acknowledged wrongdoing. Instead,
he had falsely attacked the credibility of the victims. This
(04:11):
was completely unnecessary, et cetera, et cetera. Neither side is
happy with this, apparently so.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Well so from some of the lawyers of the alleged
victims that they're saying that had he simply acknowledged wrongdoing
and apologized, none of this would have happened.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I find that very hard to believe that's what they're saying.
And you know, those suits, I guess are still sort
of ongoing. But the punishment from the league, I.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Mean, how do you suspend a guy that is not
on a team, and then if he remains unemployed, the
suspension counts as though he were employed, And if he
stays unemployed until week eleven, he then could sign with
a team with the team and be able to kick immediately.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
How in the world that makes no sense to me.
I think it's ridiculous. And some of the womens and
quotes that came out from that one, I don't think
it's enough. One said he got ten weeks. We have
to deal with this the rest of our lives. One
of them said glad something was done, was nice to
feel heard, and then one said it was the bare
minimum and added that she had to leave her career
(05:22):
because of Tucker's actions.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So when when in in those lawsuits is that one lawsuit.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's a class action suit, multiple laws, one lawsuit with
multiple defenders. So when when when did the first indiscretion happen? Well,
for decade, over a decade, this is not new behavior,
and this is well well known throughout the Baltimore community community.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
This is well known. You know, well known.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
If he's coming into your massage parlor you knew to
you know, have more than one person there, have a wit,
you know those kinds of things. So towards the end
of this, this started happening in a price in private
settings obviously because his reputation preceded him as far as
this went. Uh, it was interesting his kicking started dropping
off last year, tough year, but it started dropping off
(06:10):
when his wife found out that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
This suit was coming.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Well, that would make sense, Like.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Everybody's wondering how he just suddenly fell off, And there
is a direct correlation between when that fell off and
when they all all that was going on. So anyway,
as far as that goes, suspended ten games for him,
and I don't know if we'll ever see him play
in the NFL again after the performance last year, I imagine, Dah,
as far as that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Dave, you're over on the d NVR, the DMVR podcast stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
The clips started coming out today. Oh they did?
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah? Are that Pat Bryan Our good friend Benny Fowler.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yeah, asked me to uh to drive down and and
do a podcast with him, and Uh, I think I
think highly of Benny. I think he's gonna be really
really good, good guy, and I think he's going to
be really good. He's well spoken and he's gonna good
good sense obviously of of football and other sports. So yeah,
we talked a little bit about the Broncos receiving room
(07:10):
and he had in an interesting question. He had talked
to Mark Schlereth I think the previous week or two
weeks before and asked stink and that he asked me
if the nineteen ninety eight Broncos Super Bowl thirty three
championship team were to play the twenty fifteen Super Bowl
(07:36):
fifty Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Championship team, who did I think would win?
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Oh, that's a good one, and I honestly I had
never had that question, and I'd never ever ever thought
about that.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I just hadn't.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
But when he asked, I mean, you have to come
up with an answer. So I mean, when you stop
and think about it, just breaking it down momentarily. The
ninety eight offense, I mean, Shannon Sharp's the Hall of Famer,
Elway's the Hall of Famer, Terrell's the Hall of Famer.
Rod Smith could be. I mean, Eddie is close. So
(08:12):
you've got what you've got four. Wait, you've got Shannon, Elway, Terrell's,
so you've got three that are already in the Hall
of Fame. On defense for the twenty fifteen team, I mean,
Vaughn's going to be in. Is there any other defensive
player that you think will eventually find his way to
(08:35):
ken Well where de Marcus ware? Ye, he's already in.
So that's two past one. Vaughn will be in. So
that would be to anybody else? Do you keep make it?
Does Chris make it?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
See?
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Chris would be the next one that I would say, Hey,
maybe Chris would.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Chris is a Ring of Fame guy, but you don't
know if quite quite Hall of Fame oh, I would
say so, because he sort of revolutionized that that slot corner,
that nickel corner. He became the blueprint for you. You
had that player, I would suggest he should. I don't
know that he will. He probably has.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Enough notoriety that he will. So you wind up with
what three on that team, I guess, And then you
look on.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
The other sides of the ball.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
The ninety eight defense, I mean, I mean that team
lost two games the entire year. I mean they lost
two games in an entire NFL season. So, I mean
Alfred was there, Neil Smith was there, Romo was there.
Who am I missing?
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Oh man?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
That was that?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
He was ninety eight Stevens still playing. Steve's in the
Hall of Fame. Uh, I can tell you real quick.
There was who else was on that team? Defensively? It
was uh, I mean it was I mean Ray Crockett
was on that team. Yeah, he had quite a few.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
So the twenty fifteen edition of the Broncos offense led
by Peyton Manning, you know, I think I think yeah,
I said, I think I think they they would have
had their hands full trying to figure out, you know,
how to.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Move the ball.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Although that team was really good in terms of coming
up with ways to move the ball at critical times.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
So I don't know, man, I.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Think the ninety eight team would have won. I mean
just the defense. Both defenses we were great. The ninety
eight team was a top ten defense statistically, but they
had a top five offense.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
The twenty fifteen team, I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Was the ninety eight team a top ten team defensively?
Points and yards?
Speaker 4 (10:37):
I believe it may be like eleventh in yards.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
I'd have to go back, but the big points they
were to I'd have to go back and make sure
that the yardage that was the same. But I would
say there were certainly the top three of the league,
certainly Broncos. The twenty fifteen offense was notoriously bad. It
was opportunistic based on what the defense gave them in
terms of turnovers and getting away with a few things.
I mean, we saw CJ break one, you know here
or there. Brock came in and steadied the ship a
(10:59):
little bit. But yeah, it was that was interesting. John
John Mobley was on that team to the ninety eighteen whinning.
He he was certainly on the ninety seven team. Yeah,
I think he was for sure. I thought he was
on the ninety eight.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
He might have. He might have been the one.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
I was get everybody with the trivia question, because nobody
ever remembers who led the ninety eight team in sacks?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Who led the ninety eight team in sacks?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
It's a it's a trivia question, I asked ald the
te because nobody ever gets it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It was a co it was a co thing. So
there are two guys at the same number. Uh, it
wouldn't have been Alfred Neil Smith. Uh No, a ton
of ustin there you go. Yes, you're proud of me
for that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I am, actually because most nobody ever gets that. When
everybody gets the other name fair price, nobody gets nobody
gets name.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
What a great great player Trevor was.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Yeah, but that's always That's always one that that I
think gets them, gets them on that.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, I guess I would lean to the ninety eight team.
I think the twenty fifteen defense was so good. Uh,
And I think it had been an interesting matchup. Elway
was the MVP of that Super Bowl, threw for over
three hundred yards against the Falcons. I mean, Terrell had
been the MVP of the previous year, and yet by
Terrell standard. I mean Trell went over two thousand yards
(12:17):
in that season. So the matchup between the ninety eight
team and the defense of the Broncos trying to excuse me,
the twenty fifteen defense of the Broncos trying to find
a way to stop the ninety eight offense of the Broncos,
that that would have been a hell of a battle.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Yeah, both losses road loss back to back road losses,
and it winn't because it was in Miami. Yeah, yep, okay, Yeah,
I still lean ninety eight. Maybe that's uh, it's a
little bias in me. I was I was across the
division at that point in time, I think it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
No, I wasn't.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I was down in Arkansas at the point I was.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
But I remember coming off the Kansas City years watching
Elway tear up the Chiefs over and over. It's kind
of the same feeling Broncos fans have. Now a boy,
Pat Maholmes, what do we got to do to stop
this guy? It was the same attitude Kansas City had
the eighties and nineties of John Elway. Where's just you
throw your hands up, like, what are we going to
do with that? That's a great question, though, Hike, that
is one of those hypotheticals. He also had another question
about the Courtland Sutton and expectations.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Any thinks Cortland's gonna g have fifteen hundred yards this year?
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Yeah, listen, I hope he's right. I I couldn't go
that far. I mean, I think Cortland's going.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
To have a good year.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You know contract here. I mean, well, there's yeah, there's
there's ample reason for him to have a good year.
And I think the fact that I mean, I'm assuming
he's going to be here, he's going to stay healthy
and all that. But again with as much and I
said this something on the podcast, with as much as
(13:43):
Sean Payton has talked publicly about Pat Bryant. If I'm
I mean, I've gone through this in the NFL, where
you know your team takes a first round wide receiver,
and if you're a wide receiver in the room, that
maybe going I think I was going into my I
don't know, six seventh year. It does, it does get
(14:05):
your attention. You come to camp a little bit, a
little bit ready to do battle. But I would if
I'm if I'm in the room now as a wide receiver,
I mean, I would have to make sure I was
on my p's and q's, because I just don't remember
too many coaches being as effusive in his.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Praise of Pat Bryant.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I mean, I think it's pretty clear that Sean Payton
really thinks a lot of Pat Bryant. And and you
know what, maybe it's it's understandable you look at his
film and all the things that I think appeal to
a head coach like Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
He's good at he's tough, fifty.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
To fifty catches, he catches in traffic, he's faster than
you think, he digs safeties out in the run game,
and he's a team guy.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
I mean, there's there's not a lot of stuff to
not like about him.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
Yeah, and those little Jordan Humphrey reps have got to
go somew.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Well maybe they go to Devon Bailey.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Maybe, but I'm just saying, like, there's you know, those
snaps and the Josh Rettles snaps.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
He's got to go somewhere. Well, to me, you've got
three guys on the team.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Now, I mean, Court's a little bigger, but you've got
Court of the Sutton, You've got Devon Bailey, you've got
Pat Bryant, yep, and they're all the sort of The
Broncos may completely disagree, but when I look at those three,
I mean, they're similar similar, so and maybe maybe that's fine,
(15:32):
Maybe you wind up keeping all three. But historically, wide
receiver rooms are comprised of and I'm not saying here
in Denver, I'm just saying, historically in the league, you've
got different types of wide receivers that do different things.
If all three of those guys make the team, and
all three of them are good players, I mean, I
(15:53):
haven't seen Bryant play, but they're they're going to be
asked to do very very similar things.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Yeah, it'll be it'd be fun to watch them separate
themselves in camp. But the other thing I got, I
got text messal today somebody down in uh down in
Tampa right into our buddy Dalton Reisner down there at
the Airport Riisner working out for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Be I root for him, right, Yeah, he's one of
the I can't imagine what I had. I mean, this
has been a weird thing since he left here.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Yeah, late late signings with the Vikings and all that
kind of stuff. Just sitting out there.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
As far as that kind of stuff goes, I think
one of the one of the interesting things. And I
tell the story all the time. It's not too many.
We used to do the shows down at Buffalo wil Wings.
Uh you know, you know all that kind of stuff
with it. Yeah, we had the the guests out there.
Riisner was the the guy could come down for an hour,
they collect a fee, signed smatographs during the bray call
that kind of stuff, and they leave. Dalton Reisner is
the only guy I ever saw as a rookie, uh,
(16:44):
come down there. After his what hour was over, he
went around to every table in that restaurant, shook the
hand everybody that came out, thanked them for coming out
and seeing them. I mean he had it put as
far as the pr portion of it, Dalton Reiser had
it down as a rookie. He made sure everybody there
got an autograph, a picture, whatever they wanted.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
And then after that was done, checked out and left.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
He was there a whole nother hour just making sure
everybody had a good time. And I always respected that
out of him. I think that's just who he is.
I mean, I think that's the way he was raised.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
Yeah, and guys like that, I mean you you gravitate too,
and you root for and and he fell off a
little bit here late in his career, had the injury,
then leaves, goes to Minnesota late. But from all accounts,
I thought, I thought he played pretty well with the Vikings.
It's it's just been puzzling that for a league that
(17:34):
is always looking for viable offensive linemen, this guy has
bounced around and has not caught on yet this year.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, Tama's Tampa's got an opening at the left guard spot,
which of course Riising are played here. The right guard's
got you got Cody mak over there, so I think
that's pretty pretty well staffed.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
But they do have a spot on the.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Left side next to Tristan Wursts, and there are certainly
worse players to be playing next to than Tristan Wursts
out there, so and protecting Baker Mayfield. So we'll see
how that goes Ka Waite Sports, we gotta hit a break.
We'll be back after this. Quite a few people on
the ninety eight Broncos and that hypothetical matchup Dave on
the text line, I.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Haven't read all these so they like the Lway led Broncos.
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Yeah, dave a bias to be the ninety eight Broncos.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
The someone nine says, the only thing the ninety eight
team would have against it is play style and penalties
are playing with modern rules. That's the only thing that
would make it remotely close.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I mean, listen, I think now there are there are
Broncos players that I have talked to that in big
Al was one of them that absolutely says and like
with Fervor, believe the ninety six team was the better
(18:53):
of those three teams ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight.
Ninety six team got beat at home against Jacksonville h
ninety seven to ninety eighteen, went on to win. When
the Super Bowl ninety seventeen was a wild card, had
to win two road games to get to the Super Bowl,
beat both the Chiefs and the Steelers on the road,
then beat the Packers in San Diego. The ninety eight team,
(19:17):
which is the one we're talking about, to me, was
the most dominant team. I think it was one of
the most dominant teams. I think you could make a
case that I'm obviously a homer call all the games,
but I if you said, hey, the ninety eight team
would be for a single season, would be in the
(19:39):
top five of the most dominant NFL teams. I think
I could make that argument with Bears in eighty five,
the Niners that one year. But the ninety eight Broncos
team again lost two games the entire season, both.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
In the road.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Patriots team had lost the Super Bowl. I mean, I
mean they they got a sixteen and oh team. They
we got beat fair and square. But that was a
pretty dominant football team too. I mean that was I
think there's a couple of RAMS teams there show on
great show on turf teams I put in that conversation,
But otherwise, I mean, man, you're probably right.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
No, which which a great show. And so the one
they won the Super.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Bowl when they beat Tennessee, yeah, you put that, you
put them in that conversation.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
I'd have to go back and study that one. I
they they would not, they would not come to mind.
The eighty five Bears would because they just bludgeoned people,
and they ran the forty six defense before the league
had really figured out like how to block it, and
so there were a whole bunch of guys, not that
they didn't have great players, because they did. But there
were a whole bunch of times that you had like
(20:37):
guys like Wilbur Marshall and Dent, Richard Dent coming off
the edge unblocked, unblocked, so league, the league had to
do some homework in the offseason to figure out, like.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
How how are we going to block this? But they
would be in it.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
There was a there was a Niners team and it
might be the one that Mike Shanahan was the was
a coordinator on a ninety.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Four, eighty five and eighty seven eighty seven San Francisco.
You'd have to put in that equation. I mean, they
were a phenomenal team. Well, you're looking at it. Would
they how many they went fifty to one? I'd have
to go back to look see, I mean they wont
I'm just looking. I'm just running down the list here
of like teams that I would put in there. Ninety
one Washington, by the way. Another one I would put
in there that was that was.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
That Mark Rippon. I have to go back and look here.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I think I think you could make a case that
the Broncos would be in that conversation. The ninety eight Broncos.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Thirteen in two for the eighty seven Niners.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Okay, you know they they they wired and wire, they
had the best defense and offense in the league.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
One has to be in the conversation that sure. But yeah,
I mean you got to put the ninety eight broncos.
It's funny though, the guy, because you were talking about this,
and to a man, they all say the same thing
that you that you said the ninety six team was
the best one, right, but they needed that loss against
Jacksonville to hone them into what they became in ninety
seven and ninety eight. The work ethic of the off
season between ninety six and ninety seven, because of that
loss to Accidentvill.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
To a man, they say, forged them to what they
became the following two years.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
And I would think that is that is true the
ninety eight team also, and I would I would challenge
people when you start looking solely at numbers, I mean
there were there were a handful plus maybe six or
seven games in which they they like in the NFL,
you just don't see this.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
They took they took their dudes out. I mean Terrell Davis.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
You know, they played the Eagles and the cow the
Cowboys for sure, and I think it was the Eagles
at home that year.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I mean TD came out in the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Yeah, like I mean, I mean he would have broken Honestly,
he had over two thousand hoars rushing that year. He
would have broken who holds that, Dickerson? I think I
think Differson is the all time leader. I think I
think Terrell would have would have broken that record and
may have broken it substantially if he would have played
(23:00):
like most NFL backs play.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, and that's a that's a fascinating thing.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
The ninety one Washington team, though, I mean Gary Clark
Art Monk was a fun bunch.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, that was I mean that was a heck of
a team both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
That was too.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
Yeah. You had yeah ripping Georgia Kobe up front. I
think was on that offensive line with Schlereth on the
ninety one time. I have to go back, I love
I think he was. I have to go back and
look at the offensive line, I warned the tight end.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, and then on the defensive side, you had the
Wilbur Marshall, Charles Man and you know all those guys
that were to go back and look the offensive line
for that team.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Man from Oklahoma State, the defensive lineman. I can't I
can seem Yeah, good player inside tech.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
We'll give me a second.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
I'm trying to go back and pull these up because
I was trying to look through the thing for a
couple of different teams.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Was it? Uh? Oh? Man? Was he was a character?
Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, I'm I'm drawing so much a character that we
can't remember.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Is that's that's the way it goes. We'll get it.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Jumpy Gathers Nope. Who else was on that team? Bobby
Wilson nope, Fred Stokes nope.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I'm running down the list. Man, I'll think of it.
We'll figure we'll have it before the end of the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
But that was one of those ones that I like,
I would definitely because I mean, and that was a
formative year's football team for me.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
I mean I was you know, I was twelve years
old at that point.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
So for me like watching watching that football team, that
was one of my formative year football teams. That was
the first dominant team I recalled watching because they were
fourteen to two that year.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
I believe we just we just had a text been
three Zho three, six, three, eight, say been the eighty
seven nine ers lost in the divisional round, so they
can't be in that conversation at.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Eighty seven I thought it was. Yeah, I have to
go back and look, they may have. I remember they
went thirteen to two in the regular season. If that's
if I'm if I'm remembering correctly, Well, no, because there
weren't fifteen games, were there.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
I'll tell you what, I will pull this up and
so that way, I'm not talking.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't think they had it.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I don't think they had an NFL's season unless oh
they said there was a strike, Yeah, strikes. You know,
did they lose the game?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah, wouldn't that.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Let's see here, eighty seven they went thirteen and two
and they did lose in the division round, so they can't.
Speaker 3 (25:12):
So they were wired and wire in the top off
defense that you can't call them one of the single
most dominant teams a single season dominant teams if they
get beaten the divisional round.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
I mean it's fair, But we're also saying about a
ninety six team nowhere, Well, okay, they was you're saying
they were one of the best.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Well what I said.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
What I said was the players, the players, Ryan, I
think the players felt like the ninety sixteen was the
most talented of those three teams, but they you you
couldn't say they were the best because they they lost
to the Jacksonville in a wild card game.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
By the way that that staff, that eighty seven Niners staff,
Uh you know, I mean obviously you had Walston, Seaffert
and all that, but you had Home We're and Denny Green, Sherman, Lewis,
Ray Rhodes. I mean, there's the amount of people that
were on that staff, but Peerson was on that staff.
You had so many people and the stuff.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Yeah, and somebody said, what about Shoe was Miami? You know,
the undefeated season, the Miami Dolphins. Yeah, he'd obviously have
to put them in that conversation. Absolutely, so, absolutely, there's
a few I would have to, like twenty ten New England,
shoot Baltimore just a few years was it twenty nineteen?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
That was a pretty tough team. I would I don't
know if I call most dom I don't know if.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
I put that conversation.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Didn't win that they were You can't be in the
top five without having one, right all right, I'm just
going back because I mean, you know, twenty twelve Denver
was great, but they didn't win it, So right, fair enough.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Did you ever have the nickname when you were when
you were in the.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
League pudding putting? No, okay like my mom my mom
told me.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
But I can't say my other nicknames?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
O man? I mean uh no, I was when nick
may ever had was like logs. Oh okay, yep, all right,
I don't know if you've you know, cal give you
you want me to give you.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I have a few, I just can't say most of
them on the air.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
First of all, where'd you get them? Various different places? Well,
of course if there's different places. Of them are from xes.
Some of them are from female nicknames.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
I've had that too. I mean I had that too.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
But are there any you can share not on the air?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I guess, uh, I guess white chocolate was one of them.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Wait wait, wait, wait from a from a female. No,
I didn't come from a.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
Female that.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Came in the army from anyway.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
Yeah, I just tell you.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
I tore up the Spades and Domino's tables though, Okay,
so you know I still got a pass to the barbecue,
but no Cal Rawley of the Maritors.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
He got leads to the league and his uh in
home runs. His nickname is the dumpster, the big dumper,
of the dumper, big Dumper.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
And then you had the story from New York the
other day with a Mets picture. Richard Lovelady would now
like to be known by.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
His nickname Dickie.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
So he's Dicky love Lady, spelled exactly how you would
think it is. I hadn't heard that over the social media.
He loved Joe Lady, Oh love Lady. All right, Hey,
let's hope he's when when the Mets come to town.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Is it the Mets?
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, with the Mets.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
Let's hope he's in the rotate. Is he a picture? Yeah?
I've never heard of Dicky Lovely. He's like a new picture.
Isn't that right?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Granted?
Speaker 4 (28:16):
And you're like, just get called up. I just got
called up. Yeah, just got called up. How much abuse
did that do?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Were?
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Like?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
What triple A team was he with?
Speaker 5 (28:23):
I'll do some research, but yeah, I mean I love
that he chooses to go by Dickie.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
It used to it used to be the Mets farm
team I think was in were they in Pawtucke or
was that the Red Sox.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
I can't remember that the Red Sox. Let's see where
Dicky love Lady.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
He's been around for a while. He started off with
the Royals back in twenty nineteen. He's been around for
a little while in the organization.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
But he just came up to the uh uh, you
got cast change in their names all the time.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
If your if your last name was love lady, unless
you just really like to scrap and you just love
to fight, would you not change your name these dames?
Speaker 1 (29:00):
And he's listed everywhere is Richard love Lady. But he
made it a point when they called him up. What
were seriously were his parents high? What were his parents? Hey,
our last name is love Lady. What do you think
about calling our son Richard?
Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah? I mean like you were, like, I mean, this
will be funny. Were you baked with you? I had.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I had a friend of mine who is an ardent
football fan text during the break and he is absolutely right.
One of the teams that should be in there, the
eighty nine Niners. Yeah, those are the Niners that beat
the Broncos fifty five to ten.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
That was the last Is that right? Yes? Last year.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
That was the last Broncos game broadcast that I was
not doing. Wow, how about that? That's we went down
to New Orleans. We didn't stay for the game, Yeah,
but went down and did our showdown there for the
week prior.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
To the game.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
That is, Yeah, Hey, is that one coming in to night? Nope,
he's on vacation.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
He's on vacation. Oh okay, because I say that he
played in that. That was his rookie s it was
his rookie season. He tells you he's got a great
story about that being his rookie season and getting to
the Super he'sais, oh, this is great Wood Championships my
whole time or whatever.
Speaker 4 (30:11):
And then they get to the halftime of that game,
he's like, oh, we got no inswers.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, that was ugly.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
That was the thing.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Yeah, this thing, I mean, he made TMZ that Richard
that he specifically requested Dickie to be called Dicky love Lady.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
By the way, Richard is a family name because dad
is also named Richard Lovely.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Well, listen, but you're supposed to love your son, yeah right,
I mean if your name is Richard, like and you've
had to deal with being called Richard love lady your
entire life, and you have a son, are you not
obligated to call him? I mean, why don't you nickname
his twin brother, Peter.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
Trauma has that conversation come up to you and talk
to that the old lady sitting.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
There like hear me out.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I don't want to be a Richard here, but yeah,
what are we doing? I don't know anyway, It's just me. Yeah,
that to me, it was something else.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, and he requested it like this story ended up
making TMZ and I just I just wondered if you
had Greg, do you ever have any nicknames coming up?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Never any good ones.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I was always in the shadow of my older brother,
so I was always little Smith or g Dub.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Because my middle name is When was your older brother's nickname?
Speaker 4 (31:21):
None?
Speaker 5 (31:21):
For on air, okay, they called him popcn Oh. You
can just where you want to do with your mind.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
We've got a fun show tomorrow. Orlando Franklin's gonna be
in here with us. Hope you guys to ground BCT
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