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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson and Studio us up
and then Nick ferg how are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm good man, I'm happy to be alive. Okay, you've
seen a little something happened.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No, no, no, it's better than the alternative, which is
being six feet below.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm six feet above. Well, come happy, Okay, I'm blessed.
I'm happy for you. Yes, we are all happy for you.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Dave.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
My friend can see you, good, see you. I also
equally thrilled to be alive. Yeah, thank you, yes, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Of course, nothing Ryan, to answer your next question, nothing
has really happened, but I'm hey.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Nick was happy to be alive.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I'm thinking, who am I to disagree with that?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm in what we don't have to take bold takes
on something like that. It's just when you say I'm
happy to be alive, did something happen like on the
way over here?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Every day is a challenge. Ryan should know this. That's fair.
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You've been in the traffic out exactly you drive here
every day.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's fair. Yes, all all for points.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I just when somebody says that, usually it's a marker
of something just occurred. But you're right, just to say
it out loud, happy to be alive started out there. Yeah,
and uh, it sounds like you guys had a really
fun week last week, Dave. I I certainly missed you,
although I did get to tweet updates from listeners every
so often, including this one.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Interesting, would you ever wear another man's used but clean underwear?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
So we tweeted this at me while I was on vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Is that right? Yeah? How did you respond?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You know? I didn't know what to say? Did I
Actually you didn't know what to say. That's a pretty
easy answer for me, Nick hell like hell to the note.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes, But my first reaction was absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But then I wanted to know more context of that
particular because.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I first she was absolutely not. And then he said, well,
there was that one time in four column.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well's listen. I'm assuming this was a Rick Lewis topic.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I think it was. I think I think Rick. I
think Rick did bring it up. Okay, but he brought
it up. Actually, Uh, Susie was doing the show that
day and Rick like pose the question because Rick's mom.
He'd gone over to visit his mom in Arizona and
Rick's mom. They were going to swim, and Rick didn't
(02:35):
have trunks, and his mom said, you can use a
pair of your dad's. His dad is his dad has passed.
And Rick didn't want to do that. So his question
was and he posed it to Susie and that's how
we got.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Roamy bean in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It was one of those sort of magical kind of
moments that just grows into like a thirty minute topic.
A little bit like, by the way, speaking of Poontine,
I had breakfast.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
With my daughter yesterday and.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
On the menu, Bigger than Life is p O U
T I N E Potine.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm like, did you try that? Almighty? I didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Okay, I didn't, but that was the first that I'd
actually seen it in print.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Did you start laughing? I did?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Okay, Yeah? Did you daughter? Well no, because it was like,
you know, I had no point to get into that.
You know, she just said, Dad, what are you laughing at?
I said, I just had a funny thought. I'm not
gonna yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
But so he asked, uh, he asked Susie if on
a Broncos trip that we make because romy of course
with CBS four. She she didn't she didn't fly on
the Broncos charter, but she goes to all Broncos games.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And would Susie if.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
She forgot to pack a pair of her drawers, would
she ask Romi if she could wear a pick an
extra pair of her drawers, and Susie said she would,
And then Romi called in and said, absolutely, that's a
girl thing, and it's a female thing.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Guys are going to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No, no, no, But the swim trunks I think would
be different.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
See I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Because you got that mess netting inside. Yeah, yeah, and
you know, you know if they're clean though, you never
go commando and another man's fats, never do it. Don't
sit here and try to justify it, because it seems
as though you may have done this.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Tweeted that those of the people this is literally what says.
Would you ever wear another man's used but clean underwear
if you forgot them on vacation? A major topic of
discussion on KA this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, so you remember when we were doing the show
with Al, and Al had said he went somewhere for
how long it was over a week and he had
two He had two pairs three weeks, wash them reused
them and washed them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yes, that was nasty.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's a whole lot better than wearing someone else's underwear
because you get the soap or the shampool from the hotel,
you hand wash them yourself, and you hang dry them.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, I have to go. I side with Nick on this.
You Nick and his Formula one racing cap. I'm just
saying you side with Nick on the washing your drawers
in the sink being okay, being okay versus wearing somebody else.
I mean, I'm gonna brush my teeth in the other sink.
I mean most bathrooms. Now, when you stay at the
Holiday Inn, which is where Nick and I stay, most
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of those bathrooms they have two. They have two sinks,
don't they. Yeah, yeah, so I'm washing my drawers.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Tell do you tell everybody to stay away from that sink,
because that's the one you wash your drawers in?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Well, like in a Bronco trip, the only person in
the rooms me, yes, right, I'm not rooming with anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Those days, just like you put a sign up or something.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
But you're right if it's just you, But like you're
there with family, like say, I'm gonna say sure, I'm
gonna hey, guys, I'm probably gonna do it in the shower, exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Probably if you do it in the sink, that's what
the shampoo is for.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You wash out the sink, yeah, Or you call the
main down says can you come and bring me some
detergent so I can wash out the sink?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But is this shampoo? And I'm asking this.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I guess I already know the answer to this, but
I'm asking this.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
You do it?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Shampoo and soap be the same as laundry detergent, and
I don't think they don't.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
They create somewhat of a ladder, right, the soap there's bubbles, right,
you're cleating something that's a whole lot better than putting
your junkets someone else's chances that already had junk in it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I just feel like, from a scientific standpoint, you're you're
jumping to some inclusions that all soap is made equally.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Let's just cut to the chase. So you would would
not or would not would not? But what one trucks
that thinks a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You wouldn't wear another man's swim. True, he has done
this before, That's what he's telling you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You're saying, if I didn't bring my own and we
were all going swimming.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So if you went next door to the next door neighbor,
the one you like, the next door neighbor who has
the hot tub, and you didn't have swim trunks, and
the wife said, Ryan, uh Bill, for her husband to
grab you grab a pair of swim trunks.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I think it depended a little bit how I thought
of Bill.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I think it would depend like, hell no, I can't
see how you trying to just.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Hell no, no, man, Well I.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Abuts underware, just boring swimt trunks.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We're just gonna get a hotb eat off the swim trucks.
Swim trunks is underwear.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yes, you had your business right there on the mesh underwear.
You had your business on whatever you were, the tidy whities.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And then now here we get on this. Now your
wife is asking Ryan, why are you scratching so much?
Why are you going back home to get swim trunks?
Why are you scratching so much? What happened? At least
I have something to blame the scratching. Yeah, all right,
we are off and really here, Okay, you get crabs
one time. I bet you won't do it again. I
bet you won't do it again. There's a special kind
(07:58):
of soap for that. Are so I've heard, I've heard.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
The reason we got on the topic is because listeners
were tweeting at me while I was out to let
me know what was coming up on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
See here's the difference with me and you.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I mean, well, here's one of the differences between me
and you. Like, like, when I get a chance to
go on vacation, I am not listening to interested in
unless you know world War three breaks out. I'm trying
to get away from this show. You have to do
(08:36):
that the next time you take. You don't take enough vacation,
and when you do, you get to turn off your
social media.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
If Missus Edwards is listening, she is nodding along in
a great talk to her this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Okay, you're welcome back to the verse. Yeah. Also turn
your husband off.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, well I was better this week.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
In fact, I was actually still getting tweets about a
show I better? Is better? Is better? Dave better? What
you'd like? Listen to the show sometimes.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Oh there's something, I mean, there's something Unamerican about you have.
When you go on vacation with your family, you you
have to like be on vacation with your family.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You got it, like all this other stuff totally irrelevantly.
Do you realize you're saying this?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Is there a person who when he's with his family,
he is looking at his phone NonStop? So if he's
doing that when they're not on vacation and he's doing
it at home, I mean, is.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That it's total me before? What do you mean? How
do I know?
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Of course you told me, yeah, so it's not I
mean like, when I go on vacation in February, I'll
take the iPad and I will probably have two or
three hours a day where I'll break down film right
for high school stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Looking at college games, looking at the concepts.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Can I employ this whatever? But I'm not. But I'm not.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That's not it is work, but it's not really work
to me. This is work.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, so okay, me tuning in and checking out the
show every so often, which I did not do this
last week but good, but I have in the past,
so I'm not going to pretend like I didn't. Yeah,
I think that is just I enjoy the show, I
enjoy my work, I enjoy listening to you, and I
want to kind of see what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Justifiers.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You have to be intentional, have to be intentional with
your family.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yes, right, well we're not there.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
The kids are swimming in the pool, the wife is
doing her own thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm sitting by the plot to engage in conversation. Do
you talk to your wife as often as possible? Okay,
engage in like an in depth. That's an opportunity. Plus
you're in a beautiful place.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
True, that's an opportunity to like give her undivided attention
for six days or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You Once again, if missus Edbridge is listening right now,
she's not an agreement gain. But I would say that
I was.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I was on it much less intentionally.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And then yeah, I mean once in a while I
would check in and I'm just so happy out.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
You smoke four packs a day and now I smoke.
You're still killing yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Better, better improvement. Yes, so that's what I did.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
I was.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I was better.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And that's why I saw the one tweet that I
didn't respond. I just saw I did not respond. Well,
I mean I liked it, though understandably I didn't know
what to say. I wanted to get the context first
before I responded and now gets context and we're on it.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, there we go. We actually agree on something. How
about that welcome back?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Ryan is asking you to validate him and give him
a warm pat on the back for only using his phone.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, maybe I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Know, five hours a day instead of eight exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's what he's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
He wants you to validate him for his vacation time
and doing the right thing he should do as as.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
A dad who's on vacation. That sounds just like you, Ryan,
the detect one. Now what.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I had to know this was going to be the case.
Obviously you guys have never been booked into out of jail.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh really? Is that that's for me?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It just reminds me of airplaye like you've been to
prison vlage.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
You know what I can't I can't say. I can't
say that that is true for me. But it's been
a long time.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I can't read that one about the sword fight, thank you?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Though?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Where is that? Which one is it?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Three old three six one eight three old three.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Six one eight.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Wear any guys underwear is the closest thing to having
a sword fight with them?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I can read it. No, three a day. You washed
your drawers in that scene.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Can you use the other to brush your teeth, but
I use the others to wash my drawers.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Good point, good point that there's valid. Yeah, that's a
valid point. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I'll go command before I wear another man's doorse that's
about me where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Thank you from it. Not necessarily. It seem like you
have already done swim swamp trunks are different.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
No, see once again with your swim trunk theory. That
means you've done this before you leaving the door open.
So this could actually take place, and there's no justifier.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
For another man to do that, there's none. You might
as well just go with the longcloth, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So if you drop soap on the floor, is the
soap dirty or is the floor clean?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Oh? Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
That's a good question. Is the soap dirty or the floor?
I would say neither neither.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, Well, it.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
All depends on what environment this floor is, because soap
may fall prison.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well, we're just gonna lord lord the questions we could ask.
The incentive of doing and staying on the straight and narrow.
That's it.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
That's it, Just just don't go to prison to prison.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Okay, So we got a really fun show today kind
of at four o'clock were the free agency frenzy for
the NBA.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Will Lebron unless they want to talk about underwear and
would you wear somebody else's underwear?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
We're not interested. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Three hours on June thirtieth, Well, we're still like three
weeks away from training camp.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yes, speaking of Lebron James, you brought him up the
rich Paul Statemen.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm going at. Come on, come on, man,
I mean, what what are we? What are we?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Seriously, that's Stavid. I mean, do you do you have?
I mean here, I have been probably less so after
the move to LA but when Lebron was with Cleveland,
I mean I was one hundred percent Lebron fan. I'm
thinking this guy's been in the in the you know,
(14:55):
public eye since he was like seventeen, never heard. I mean,
he he's done things the right way. Yeah, he's won
a lot. I mean I always just had a lot
of respect for him. Now he's done a few things
the last few years where I'm like, ah, I don't
know that I've said that or done that. Still nothing.
You know, he had robbed a bank that I know of.
(15:17):
So but now this statement today, I'm thinking, Okay, dude,
and this is Rich Paul. This was not Lebron but
Rich Paul coming out of a statement. So, do you
have to do we have to like jump into lake
Lebron like all the time? Does does does it have
to be about you all the time? Because that, to
(15:37):
me is what I took from that statement.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And the answer to your question is yes, I guess so, Yes,
I guess. So.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I mean you can't crown yourself the king and the
best player in basketball and not have everything be shaped
around you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean for people that didn't hear it, Yeah, so
you read the statement.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So Rich Paul said, after Lebron James exercises fifty two
point six million dollar player option.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Now, to keep in mind, he's he's under contract already.
He could have been a free agent. He declined that
he's under contract currently with the Lakers. And now here's
his partner's statement, Rich Paul.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
He knows the Lakers are building for the future, he
understands that, but he values a realistic chance of winning
it all. We are very appreciative of the partnership that
we've had for eight years with Genie Buss and Rob Polenka,
and consider the Lakers as a critical part.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Of his career.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, continue, I mean that's that's the statements.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That's what I have here. I think is there a
longer one. I think there's a longer one. But it's like, Okay,
you you had a chance, you had a chance to
declare as a free agent.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You didn't. You you got the rest of it. I
got the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We understand the difficulty winning now while preparing for the future.
We do not want to evaluate what's best for Lebron
at this stage in his life and career. He wants
to make every season he has left count and the
Lakers understand that, are supportive and want what's best for him.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You had a chance to become a free agent, you declined,
you opted out, and now you have a fifty basically
three million dollars deal. I would be like, bro, what
what are you talking about? What I'm reading in that
statement like he's chasing a championship. The Lakers are obviously
(17:34):
looking to the future, and again this is my own deduction,
but that future might not be fast enough for me.
So I appreciate everything here that I've had eight years
with the Lakers, and let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's exactly what happens. And I mean, certainly some of
it can be riding on the wall. With the Luca trade,
we knew that when it happened that this was about
the few, was sort of about the present, but mostly
about hey, we're gonna eventually build around Luca Dontris. That's
our future star of this organization. Lebron James with forty
one to forty two, I mean we know that sea. Yeah,
(18:13):
he's easy, year to year kind of deal, but he
opted into this, in my opinion as just sort of
the business aspect of the NBA. I want my fifty
three million, However, I want to I want to control
the leverage of the situation because he's probably not getting
fifty three million from a contender, like if he goes
somewhere they can't afford to pay him that. But he's
going to get fifty three million that he's going to
(18:33):
get that. But now it's about the Lakers trying to
maybe formulate something in some kind of trade, and I
don't know if they could pull it off, but there
are a lot of Nuggets fans that have been doing
the trade calculators no and and.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Dear yes, no, no? Do you want? Do you want?
Do you want to hear? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
The wast recent one go ahead? Okay, So it would
be Michael Porter Junior. No, it sounds Jamal Murray.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's Jamal Murray.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's Jamal Murray and golly, Zeke Najam Murray and Zeke
Nagy the Lakers for Lebron James and Bronny James.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
No, and it bounce Lebron James and who ron Ronny.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Oh, but that would be more because you're Lebron would say, hey,
if you're trading for me, you gotta bring up.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Isn't We've seen this from Lebron in the past.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
This is way of kind of forcing and pushing the
team into doing something he wants to do, because the
idea is that unlike Kobe and Michael, where they take
it upon themselves to win ball games and push their teammates,
Lebron is kind of blaming the team that has been
formed around him, knowing as though he had uh something
to do with those players being with that team. This
this is him trying to trace Michael to to get
(19:49):
to get from what what I think Lebron is at
four right now, he's trying to get to six. He's
not gonna do that. You see the teams in the West.
Kevin Durant is now with Houston. Lebron is not gonna
have that opportunit. But this is him trying to force
the Lakers' hands yet again.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
If it guaranteed you a championship, would you do it, Dave.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well, No, he's a one year rental. Lebron is done.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
If it guaranteed me a championship, then yes I would.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But how can you even say no, you can't, you can't,
you can't, you can't.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
But that would be the move, right if you're like
kind of like we saw with the Steelers today. We'll
talk about that in a bit, but that would be
the move to say, this is this is our intention.
We know this is a one year we're we're we're
gonna runway for this thing right now. That's what we're doing. Yeah,
I just don't because Aaron Rodgers is also on a
one year.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think that with Lebron, I mean, he's been accused
of of chasing championships as soon as he left Cleveland,
went to Miami and went through the not one, not two,
not three, went up to seven, got two. I think
got there four times, won twice. But I don't I
(21:02):
don't know that i'd want to. I mean, I don't
know what purpose that statement today serves other than Rich Paul,
who's a lifelong friend and now business partner with Lebron.
It keeps Lebron's name in the NBA media cycle when
(21:28):
free agency is going on. Honestly, God, other than that,
I can't really think of any purpose. Well, we want
to we want to win now. We want to we
want to win a championship. Okay, all right, we appreciate
the Lakers. Okay, we thought you might because you've made
just a buttload of.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Money in eight years. I mean, what what what.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Did that say other than just having us talking about
once again talking about Lebron.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
All right, let's continue that conversation on the other side.
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After the show, and if you ever miss any parts
of it, of course, including our very entertaining hopefully conversation
about wearing other people's underwear.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You want to check it.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Out on demand on the completely free and totally awesome
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and then you're off and rolling. Great text. We'll get
back to the text line. A lot of reaction until
still to that conversation. One other thing I wanted to
(22:40):
bring up here with the Lebron James stuff, because again,
coming at four o'clock is when the NBA League year
begins free agency frenzy. Hopefully the Nuggets will be involved.
I still maintain they will not do a lot other
than adding to depths. Dave continues to say that MPGA
is going to get traded.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
We will see.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
How do you think the ownership change with the Lakers
might factor in a little bit, Dave to what Lebron
James and simultaneously what ownership now thinks of Lebron James
and his antics. How do you think the addition or
the sale to Mark Walter will impact things.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I think it will not impact things at all. Okay,
he's under contract, right, these are these are fully guaranteed contracts.
So the Lakers, unless Lebron wants to get traded, the
Lakers are stuck with Lebron. So and just for clarification,
(23:41):
what I said was, I thought there would be a
pretty good chance that MPG would be traded. Not in
some hedges there, No, I thought there were, and I
still think there's a pretty good chance that MPG will
be traded.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Just you know, I like to strive for accuracy.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Sure, and sure I would suggest that others aspire to
the same lofty goal.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I never took you as a moonwalker, but here we are.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, because you ain't got to worry about me backstroking.
I'm easy to find, if I say it. And but
I want I wanted to be accurately portrayed. You counselor
have a tendency Maybe a pattern would be more appropriate
of proclivity switching things.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Just a little bit to fit the narrative.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
So yes, I do think I thought there was a
good chance in PJ would be moved.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I still think I think of.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That about h Ryan one Ryan Edwards, because it seems
that you worked with him before. Yeah, I have, And
it seemed to be part of his interwoven DNA to
do that, to make the audience think that you said
something that you really didn't say.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, yes, welcome to my world.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well you've spoken definites when we I mean, this was
just two weeks ago when you were telling me it's
definitely gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
What did I say?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Really, Pop.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Grant, Yeah, I have the audio. I was busy last week.
You're on vacation. Yeah, so when the time comes, I
have it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I have it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, I'll say this to your question earlier today. Will
something changed with the Lakers due to new ownership? I'm
gonna say I do believe so, because where Robo Lincoln,
Gina Bus, Genie Buss was running the show along with
you know, Lebron James, now Mark Waltz is like, no, man,
I've run this.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I am running this, so thank you. Does that mean?
Well that that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Means that now they're gonna take that power that Rob
Lincoln Jenie Buss gave Lebron to kind of build the
roster himself, and in the mind of both he and
the rich Paul No, he.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Wants to take over like this is this is my team.
You're part of it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I'm paying you an enormous amount of money to fifty
two point whatever million that he opted in. But I'm
going to dictate this and right now I know you
were fading out. This team is now going to be
based around Luca and we're going to build what we
feel is best suited for him.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Not you.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, I guess so, I mean that would be the
logical thing to assume, but I mean I also assume
that's what Rob Polenka and Jeanie Buss wanted to do
when they made the deal for Luca. I don't think
anybody would say we acquired Luca gave up ad and
what we had to give up. And yet the future
(26:37):
is a forty one year old and not a twenty
five year old.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So but the reality of.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It is, again Lebron from a contractual standpoint, is clearly
in the driver's seat.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Maybe, if Nick's point is right, maybe that's why Rich
Paul issued the statement because he's feeling a certain way
about the new ownership and like, you know, you guys
are talking about future, and we're not interested in future.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
We're interested in trying to find a way to win.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Now, I guess that, I guess that could be true.
But still he's under contract and there's only you know,
if he really wanted to go somewhere else, he had
an opportunity to say nope, no, thank you, it become
a free agent.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You're one hundred percent right, And so what was more
important to Lebron James in that very moment was it
to make sure he made fifty three million or to
actually chase a ring because it's gonna be difficult for
contending teams. Now, maybe the New York Knicks, they can
do a few things. I don't think the Cleveland Cavaliers
can make this happen, like like people keep talking about
maybe a reunion there, they'd have to sell off at
least three of their major players to be able to
(27:43):
get under that apron to get Lebron James, Well, what Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Go back to that because you already have all to
do team and Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And I don't are I don't think they would.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It would be more based on the way the season ended,
like he was such a thud. They were the number
one seed in the East and they just crashed in
the post.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Injuries and everything but that would be the rest.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, but Cleveland has a chance.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Now, look what's happening with the injury to Tyrese Halliburton
with the Achilles. Then you got Jason Tatum with the
Boston Celtics and they trader a Drew Holliday and Pasingis,
And then you look at what could possibly happen with
Milwaukee not knowing where Giannie is going. So it's wide
open for Cleveland. So I wouldn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
No, I mean fair, I'm just I'm going over the options,
and those don't feel like great options. That's why the
Nuggets keep coming back. But it would have to take
some maneuvering for the Nugget Sea.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
For me, the idea of lebron being here sounds great,
putting him with the color Yokiche, but you still have
an issue with your bench and then you still have
Bronni here.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What does that mean long term? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
And I know you guys was talking about, well, what
if that means it guarantees you an opportunity to win
a championship this year? Yeah, it does, but then it
hamstrings you in other ways and there's more years you're
gonna have with Nicola Jokic than Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm like to help with.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I guess the question you have to ask yourself, Dave,
is are you a Lebron James away from actually winning
a championship?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is that the missing ingredient at this point? It doesn't
feel like that, right.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
No, And I'm a I mean, I say no quickly,
and I'm a Lebron fan. Sure right, I mean again,
I don't agree with everything he said, but in terms
of his basketball play, he's a brilliant player. But what
this team needs to me is perimeter scoring an ability
I've said, and even when Gabe Vincent left Miami and
(29:35):
went to the Lakers, somebody or somebody's like Gabe Vincent,
guy that can I don't even know where he is
salary wise, not sure it would fit in I think
he I don't know. I think he's making fourteen or
fifteen millions, and it's probably not going.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
To run on a three year thirty three millions.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So eleven yep.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
So I mean to me, you've got to look for
guys that can knock some shots down.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
And I still think they.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Need to increase their their wing ability defensively as well.
But I've said for anybody who's listened to the show
forever or just any length of time, I've said.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Year after year after year after year, probably for.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
The last ten years, this team has to improve in
their ability to knock three point shots down.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Let me ask you, guys really quickly defense, right, So
what do you think about a guy like a Devin Booker, right,
A guy who can create his own shot, another mass,
a guy who can filled up the stat sheet. But
once again, you still have more quality years with a guy.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't know the Phoenix is interested in moving him.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm just speaking out loud because for me, I think
about age, and I think about production.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I think the more realistic shot. And there's been Ruber
report of interest from mark Stein today. Luke Canard might
be an interest of them.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Luke Canard can really shoot it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Right, three point three percent from beyond the ark last
year forty five. He's got a career almost forty four percent.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he can shoot the ball.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Now, he's not going to cover anybody, but he can
shoot the ball.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But then I'm out then, I mean, first of all,
because you need to be able to defend. They got
a score I'll be out on Lucnar. But but I'm
just saying I go back to.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I want you to be in on Lukenark. You should, Okay.
So here's why I'm saying. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Looking at the Pacers, looking at Okay. See what do
they do well in these playoffs? They play great team defense,
and their role players understood their roles. The Nuggets can
go out there and do the same thing piece Millett
together with guys who have that same type of mentality,
who understand their role.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'm with you, Dave. What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
We'll try to convince him.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I just ran in and didn't have my headphones on.
What exactly did I say?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
No, I'm just you were saying that you were in
the kitchen last week and you got the you got
the audio of you saying that it wasn't a guarantee.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
No, I never ever, not once used the word guarantee, Okay,
not once. So when you ascribe that to me, it's
it's what fallacious fallacious?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Okay, there's another there's another descriptors there. I was a
little fraid say it's BS. I was going to spell
it up for you, but need the gig the gig,
need the gig.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
So this this happened last week, and I'm sure you
guys talked about it at a time.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But the one thing I wanted to ask.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You is what you would make of that story, the
collusion case, uh, the NFL collusion case and the report
that Russell Wilson was looking for a fully guaranteed, seven year, three.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Hundred and fifty million dollar contract. What did you make
of that?
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Well, I mean the collusion case to me, I think,
as a former player, is.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
All about not very much. You know.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Do I believe as a former player that the league
has in the past and continues to do what they
can to keep salaries as low as they possibly can
given the constraint of the CBA.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The answer to that is yes.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Do I ever think that owners have talked about now
even before? I mean now, first round draft choices are
are slotted right back in the day, back in the
and the guy who really falls into this category, Sam Brafford.
Back in the Sam Bradford days, what was happening. Salaries
(33:47):
and bonuses in particular were not slotted, and so you
had rookies, unproven rookies coming in. And I think Sam
Bradford's signing bonus was like fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Or something to that effect. And so in the next.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
CBA, the Players Association went hard at trying to come
up with a better way to spread some of the
money towards veterans that had proven that they could play
at that level and not give such a large amount
of signing bonus to rookies who had not proven. And
(34:22):
I think the league went along with that. But in
the meantime, now you have slotted first round picks within reason,
everybody knows what they're going to make, including your signing bonus.
And ostensibly the reason the league, the reason the players
wanted to do that was so that more money could
be in the pot for veterans five six, seven, eight, nine,
(34:45):
ten year guys not to get squeezed out of the
league before their time simply because they're making too much money.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And there wasn't anything surprising about the report, Nick. I
think though this is a rare for me. Most of
the time I side with the players, like doing this.
As long as been doing this, being around players, I
tend to side with the players. This is the first
time that I actually am with ownership, with management yeah,
you can't give out you can't give out fully guaranteed contracts.
You just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't think that you have to give out fully
guaranteed contracts. And I think Dave playing before me, I
think he agreed with this. Things have changed a lot.
Or even though you're not getting fully guaranteed contracts, they're
guaranteeing more money now than they guarantee when I play
and when they played as well.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So it's a way of kind of getting around to it.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
But say that conversation about collusion, because I get asked
about it all the time, and I'm like, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Have to figure that it does happen. The owners meet
twice a year in March May, so they.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Get a chance to talk about, Okay, well, what's on our.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Agenda, what do we need to change.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
How do we make sure that we kind of maintain
control over salary caps in the game doesn't get out
of control.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I think NFL head coaches should have guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
No, No, I don't, not really, but but that one
I could sort of talk myself.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Or given the same answer, but for completely opposite reason.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Sure, my reason, the reason that.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's a tough one is a tough one.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The reason I don't want fully guaranteed contracts and the
players is because of the salary cap and the way
you have to construct these fifty three man rosters.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Like I think, it's a very difficult thing to be
able to to do.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You know the solution I would have for both of you,
give them two your contracts.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Just that's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Your two year contracts, you're two years wild. Your two
years are guaranteed. Then you know what you got to
come back in and negotiate. And if you played really well,
you're probably going to make more money, and if you
didn't play very well, you're not going to make Now
the players, and I'm a former player, the players would
hate that. But if you want to get if you
want to have a fully or maybe three, if you
(36:58):
want to have a fully guarantee ted contract, you're not
going to get a five year, fully guaranteed contract. And
there's a part of me that understands that because guys
get hurt so often and in such devastating ways that
a certain percent of there's those guys never have a
chance to complete their contract because their body gives out.
(37:19):
So I gets that's the thing that the NFL has
going against it from a player standpoint, as opposed to
baseball and basketball
Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson and Studio us up
and then Nick ferg how are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm good man, I'm happy to be alive. Okay, you've
seen a little something happened.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
No, no, no, it's better than the alternative, which is
being six feet below.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
I'm six feet above. Well, come happy, Okay, I'm blessed.
I'm happy for you. Yes, we are all happy for you.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Dave.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
My friend can see you, good, see you. I also
equally thrilled to be alive. Yeah, thank you, yes, thank you.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Of course, nothing Ryan, to answer your next question, nothing
has really happened, but I'm hey.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Nick was happy to be alive.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
I'm thinking, who am I to disagree with that?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I'm in what we don't have to take bold takes
on something like that. It's just when you say I'm
happy to be alive, did something happen like on the
way over here?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Every day is a challenge. Ryan should know this. That's fair.
That's fair.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You've been in the traffic out exactly you drive here
every day.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
That's fair. Yes, all all for points.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I just when somebody says that, usually it's a marker
of something just occurred. But you're right, just to say
it out loud, happy to be alive started out there. Yeah,
and uh, it sounds like you guys had a really
fun week last week, Dave. I I certainly missed you,
although I did get to tweet updates from listeners every
so often, including this one.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I thought it was.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Interesting, would you ever wear another man's used but clean underwear?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
So we tweeted this at me while I was on vacation.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Is that right? Yeah? How did you respond?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
You know? I didn't know what to say? Did I
Actually you didn't know what to say. That's a pretty
easy answer for me, Nick hell like hell to the note.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yes, But my first reaction was absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
But then I wanted to know more context of that
particular because.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I first she was absolutely not. And then he said, well,
there was that one time in four column.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Well's listen. I'm assuming this was a Rick Lewis topic.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I think it was. I think I think Rick. I
think Rick did bring it up. Okay, but he brought
it up. Actually, Uh, Susie was doing the show that
day and Rick like pose the question because Rick's mom.
He'd gone over to visit his mom in Arizona and
Rick's mom. They were going to swim, and Rick didn't
(02:35):
have trunks, and his mom said, you can use a
pair of your dad's. His dad is his dad has passed.
And Rick didn't want to do that. So his question
was and he posed it to Susie and that's how
we got.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Roamy bean in the conversation.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
It was one of those sort of magical kind of
moments that just grows into like a thirty minute topic.
A little bit like, by the way, speaking of Poontine,
I had breakfast.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
With my daughter yesterday and.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
On the menu, Bigger than Life is p O U
T I N E Potine.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm like, did you try that? Almighty? I didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Okay, I didn't, but that was the first that I'd
actually seen it in print.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Did you start laughing? I did?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Okay, Yeah? Did you daughter? Well no, because it was like,
you know, I had no point to get into that.
You know, she just said, Dad, what are you laughing at?
I said, I just had a funny thought. I'm not
gonna yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
But so he asked, uh, he asked Susie if on
a Broncos trip that we make because romy of course
with CBS four. She she didn't she didn't fly on
the Broncos charter, but she goes to all Broncos games.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
And would Susie if.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
She forgot to pack a pair of her drawers, would
she ask Romi if she could wear a pick an
extra pair of her drawers, and Susie said she would,
And then Romi called in and said, absolutely, that's a
girl thing, and it's a female thing.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Guys are going to do that.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
No, no, no, But the swim trunks I think would
be different.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
See I don't think so.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Because you got that mess netting inside. Yeah, yeah, and
you know, you know if they're clean though, you never
go commando and another man's fats, never do it. Don't
sit here and try to justify it, because it seems
as though you may have done this.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Tweeted that those of the people this is literally what says.
Would you ever wear another man's used but clean underwear
if you forgot them on vacation? A major topic of
discussion on KA this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, so you remember when we were doing the show
with Al, and Al had said he went somewhere for
how long it was over a week and he had
two He had two pairs three weeks, wash them reused
them and washed them.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yes, that was nasty.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That's a whole lot better than wearing someone else's underwear
because you get the soap or the shampool from the hotel,
you hand wash them yourself, and you hang dry them.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, I have to go. I side with Nick on this.
You Nick and his Formula one racing cap. I'm just
saying you side with Nick on the washing your drawers
in the sink being okay, being okay versus wearing somebody else.
I mean, I'm gonna brush my teeth in the other sink.
I mean most bathrooms. Now, when you stay at the
Holiday Inn, which is where Nick and I stay, most
(05:35):
of those bathrooms they have two. They have two sinks,
don't they. Yeah, yeah, so I'm washing my drawers.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Tell do you tell everybody to stay away from that sink,
because that's the one you wash your drawers in?
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Well, like in a Bronco trip, the only person in
the rooms me, yes, right, I'm not rooming with anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Those days, just like you put a sign up or something.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
But you're right if it's just you, But like you're
there with family, like say, I'm gonna say sure, I'm
gonna hey, guys, I'm probably gonna do it in the shower, exactly.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Probably if you do it in the sink, that's what
the shampoo is for.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You wash out the sink, yeah, Or you call the
main down says can you come and bring me some
detergent so I can wash out the sink?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
But is this shampoo? And I'm asking this.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
I guess I already know the answer to this, but
I'm asking this.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
You do it?
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Shampoo and soap be the same as laundry detergent, and
I don't think they don't.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
They create somewhat of a ladder, right, the soap there's bubbles, right,
you're cleating something that's a whole lot better than putting
your junkets someone else's chances that already had junk in it.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I just feel like, from a scientific standpoint, you're you're
jumping to some inclusions that all soap is made equally.
Speaker 4 (06:43):
Let's just cut to the chase. So you would would
not or would not would not? But what one trucks
that thinks a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
You wouldn't wear another man's swim. True, he has done
this before, That's what he's telling you.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
You're saying, if I didn't bring my own and we
were all going swimming.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
So if you went next door to the next door neighbor,
the one you like, the next door neighbor who has
the hot tub, and you didn't have swim trunks, and
the wife said, Ryan, uh Bill, for her husband to
grab you grab a pair of swim trunks.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I think it depended a little bit how I thought
of Bill.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
I think it would depend like, hell no, I can't
see how you trying to just.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Hell no, no, man, Well I.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
Abuts underware, just boring swimt trunks.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
We're just gonna get a hotb eat off the swim trucks.
Swim trunks is underwear.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yes, you had your business right there on the mesh underwear.
You had your business on whatever you were, the tidy whities.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
And then now here we get on this. Now your
wife is asking Ryan, why are you scratching so much?
Why are you going back home to get swim trunks?
Why are you scratching so much? What happened? At least
I have something to blame the scratching. Yeah, all right,
we are off and really here, Okay, you get crabs
one time. I bet you won't do it again. I
bet you won't do it again. There's a special kind
(07:58):
of soap for that. Are so I've heard, I've heard.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
The reason we got on the topic is because listeners
were tweeting at me while I was out to let
me know what was coming up on the show.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
See here's the difference with me and you.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
I mean, well, here's one of the differences between me
and you. Like, like, when I get a chance to
go on vacation, I am not listening to interested in
unless you know world War three breaks out. I'm trying
to get away from this show. You have to do
(08:36):
that the next time you take. You don't take enough vacation,
and when you do, you get to turn off your
social media.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
If Missus Edwards is listening, she is nodding along in
a great talk to her this morning.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Okay, you're welcome back to the verse. Yeah. Also turn
your husband off.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Yeah, well I was better this week.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
In fact, I was actually still getting tweets about a
show I better? Is better? Is better? Dave better? What
you'd like? Listen to the show sometimes.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Oh there's something, I mean, there's something Unamerican about you have.
When you go on vacation with your family, you you
have to like be on vacation with your family.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
You got it, like all this other stuff totally irrelevantly.
Do you realize you're saying this?
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Is there a person who when he's with his family,
he is looking at his phone NonStop? So if he's
doing that when they're not on vacation and he's doing
it at home, I mean, is.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
That it's total me before? What do you mean? How
do I know?
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Of course you told me, yeah, so it's not I
mean like, when I go on vacation in February, I'll
take the iPad and I will probably have two or
three hours a day where I'll break down film right
for high school stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Looking at college games, looking at the concepts.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Can I employ this whatever? But I'm not. But I'm not.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
That's not it is work, but it's not really work
to me. This is work.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Well, so okay, me tuning in and checking out the
show every so often, which I did not do this
last week but good, but I have in the past,
so I'm not going to pretend like I didn't. Yeah,
I think that is just I enjoy the show, I
enjoy my work, I enjoy listening to you, and I
want to kind of see what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Justifiers.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
You have to be intentional, have to be intentional with
your family.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yes, right, well we're not there.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
The kids are swimming in the pool, the wife is
doing her own thing.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I'm sitting by the plot to engage in conversation. Do
you talk to your wife as often as possible? Okay,
engage in like an in depth. That's an opportunity. Plus
you're in a beautiful place.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
True, that's an opportunity to like give her undivided attention
for six days or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
You Once again, if missus Edbridge is listening right now,
she's not an agreement gain. But I would say that
I was.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
I was on it much less intentionally.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
And then yeah, I mean once in a while I
would check in and I'm just so happy out.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
You smoke four packs a day and now I smoke.
You're still killing yourself?
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Better, better improvement. Yes, so that's what I did.
Speaker 7 (11:10):
I was.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I was better.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
And that's why I saw the one tweet that I
didn't respond. I just saw I did not respond. Well,
I mean I liked it, though understandably I didn't know
what to say. I wanted to get the context first
before I responded and now gets context and we're on it.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Yeah, there we go. We actually agree on something. How
about that welcome back?
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Ryan is asking you to validate him and give him
a warm pat on the back for only using his phone.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
You know, maybe I don't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Know, five hours a day instead of eight exactly.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
That's what he's trying to do.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
He wants you to validate him for his vacation time
and doing the right thing he should do as as.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
A dad who's on vacation. That sounds just like you, Ryan,
the detect one. Now what.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I had to know this was going to be the case.
Obviously you guys have never been booked into out of jail.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh really? Is that that's for me?
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It just reminds me of airplaye like you've been to
prison vlage.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
You know what I can't I can't say. I can't
say that that is true for me. But it's been
a long time.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I can't read that one about the sword fight, thank you?
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Though?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Where is that? Which one is it?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
Three old three six one eight three old three.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Six one eight.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Wear any guys underwear is the closest thing to having
a sword fight with them?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
I can read it. No, three a day. You washed
your drawers in that scene.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Can you use the other to brush your teeth, but
I use the others to wash my drawers.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Good point, good point that there's valid. Yeah, that's a
valid point. That's good. That's good.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I'll go command before I wear another man's doorse that's
about me where I'm at.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Thank you from it. Not necessarily. It seem like you
have already done swim swamp trunks are different.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
No, see once again with your swim trunk theory. That
means you've done this before you leaving the door open.
So this could actually take place, and there's no justifier.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
For another man to do that, there's none. You might
as well just go with the longcloth, gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
So if you drop soap on the floor, is the
soap dirty or is the floor clean?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Oh? Yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
That's a good question. Is the soap dirty or the floor?
I would say neither neither.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah, Well, it.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
All depends on what environment this floor is, because soap
may fall prison.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well, we're just gonna lord lord the questions we could ask.
The incentive of doing and staying on the straight and narrow.
That's it.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
That's it, Just just don't go to prison to prison.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Okay, So we got a really fun show today kind
of at four o'clock were the free agency frenzy for
the NBA.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Will Lebron unless they want to talk about underwear and
would you wear somebody else's underwear?
Speaker 2 (14:11):
We're not interested. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Three hours on June thirtieth, Well, we're still like three
weeks away from training camp.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yes, speaking of Lebron James, you brought him up the
rich Paul Statemen.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm going at. Come on, come on, man,
I mean, what what are we? What are we?
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Seriously, that's Stavid. I mean, do you do you have?
I mean here, I have been probably less so after
the move to LA but when Lebron was with Cleveland,
I mean I was one hundred percent Lebron fan. I'm
thinking this guy's been in the in the you know,
(14:55):
public eye since he was like seventeen, never heard. I mean,
he he's done things the right way. Yeah, he's won
a lot. I mean I always just had a lot
of respect for him. Now he's done a few things
the last few years where I'm like, ah, I don't
know that I've said that or done that. Still nothing.
You know, he had robbed a bank that I know of.
(15:17):
So but now this statement today, I'm thinking, Okay, dude,
and this is Rich Paul. This was not Lebron but
Rich Paul coming out of a statement. So, do you
have to do we have to like jump into lake
Lebron like all the time? Does does does it have
to be about you all the time? Because that, to
(15:37):
me is what I took from that statement.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
And the answer to your question is yes, I guess so, Yes,
I guess. So.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I mean you can't crown yourself the king and the
best player in basketball and not have everything be shaped
around you.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
I mean for people that didn't hear it, Yeah, so
you read the statement.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So Rich Paul said, after Lebron James exercises fifty two
point six million dollar player option.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Now, to keep in mind, he's he's under contract already.
He could have been a free agent. He declined that
he's under contract currently with the Lakers. And now here's
his partner's statement, Rich Paul.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
He knows the Lakers are building for the future, he
understands that, but he values a realistic chance of winning
it all. We are very appreciative of the partnership that
we've had for eight years with Genie Buss and Rob Polenka,
and consider the Lakers as a critical part.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Of his career.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, continue, I mean that's that's the statements.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That's what I have here. I think is there a
longer one. I think there's a longer one. But it's like, Okay,
you you had a chance, you had a chance to
declare as a free agent.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You didn't. You you got the rest of it. I
got the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
We understand the difficulty winning now while preparing for the future.
We do not want to evaluate what's best for Lebron
at this stage in his life and career. He wants
to make every season he has left count and the
Lakers understand that, are supportive and want what's best for him.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
You had a chance to become a free agent, you declined,
you opted out, and now you have a fifty basically
three million dollars deal. I would be like, bro, what
what are you talking about? What I'm reading in that
statement like he's chasing a championship. The Lakers are obviously
(17:34):
looking to the future, and again this is my own deduction,
but that future might not be fast enough for me.
So I appreciate everything here that I've had eight years
with the Lakers, and let's see what happens.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
That's exactly what happens. And I mean, certainly some of
it can be riding on the wall. With the Luca trade,
we knew that when it happened that this was about
the few, was sort of about the present, but mostly
about hey, we're gonna eventually build around Luca Dontris. That's
our future star of this organization. Lebron James with forty
one to forty two, I mean we know that sea. Yeah,
(18:13):
he's easy, year to year kind of deal, but he
opted into this, in my opinion as just sort of
the business aspect of the NBA. I want my fifty
three million, However, I want to I want to control
the leverage of the situation because he's probably not getting
fifty three million from a contender, like if he goes
somewhere they can't afford to pay him that. But he's
going to get fifty three million that he's going to
(18:33):
get that. But now it's about the Lakers trying to
maybe formulate something in some kind of trade, and I
don't know if they could pull it off, but there
are a lot of Nuggets fans that have been doing
the trade calculators no and and.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Dear yes, no, no? Do you want? Do you want?
Do you want to hear? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:52):
The wast recent one go ahead? Okay, So it would
be Michael Porter Junior. No, it sounds Jamal Murray.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
It's Jamal Murray.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
It's Jamal Murray and golly, Zeke Najam Murray and Zeke
Nagy the Lakers for Lebron James and Bronny James.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
No, and it bounce Lebron James and who ron Ronny.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Oh, but that would be more because you're Lebron would say, hey,
if you're trading for me, you gotta bring up.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Isn't We've seen this from Lebron in the past.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
This is way of kind of forcing and pushing the
team into doing something he wants to do, because the
idea is that unlike Kobe and Michael, where they take
it upon themselves to win ball games and push their teammates,
Lebron is kind of blaming the team that has been
formed around him, knowing as though he had uh something
to do with those players being with that team. This
this is him trying to trace Michael to to get
(19:49):
to get from what what I think Lebron is at
four right now, he's trying to get to six. He's
not gonna do that. You see the teams in the West.
Kevin Durant is now with Houston. Lebron is not gonna
have that opportunit. But this is him trying to force
the Lakers' hands yet again.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
If it guaranteed you a championship, would you do it, Dave.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Well, No, he's a one year rental. Lebron is done.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
If it guaranteed me a championship, then yes I would.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
But how can you even say no, you can't, you can't,
you can't, you can't.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
But that would be the move, right if you're like
kind of like we saw with the Steelers today. We'll
talk about that in a bit, but that would be
the move to say, this is this is our intention.
We know this is a one year we're we're we're
gonna runway for this thing right now. That's what we're doing. Yeah,
I just don't because Aaron Rodgers is also on a
one year.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
I think that with Lebron, I mean, he's been accused
of of chasing championships as soon as he left Cleveland,
went to Miami and went through the not one, not two,
not three, went up to seven, got two. I think
got there four times, won twice. But I don't I
(21:02):
don't know that i'd want to. I mean, I don't
know what purpose that statement today serves other than Rich Paul,
who's a lifelong friend and now business partner with Lebron.
It keeps Lebron's name in the NBA media cycle when
(21:28):
free agency is going on. Honestly, God, other than that,
I can't really think of any purpose. Well, we want
to we want to win now. We want to we
want to win a championship. Okay, all right, we appreciate
the Lakers. Okay, we thought you might because you've made
just a buttload of.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
Money in eight years. I mean, what what what.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Did that say other than just having us talking about
once again talking about Lebron.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
All right, let's continue that conversation on the other side.
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After the show, and if you ever miss any parts
of it, of course, including our very entertaining hopefully conversation
about wearing other people's underwear.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
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Speaker 1 (22:19):
Out on demand on the completely free and totally awesome
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and then you're off and rolling. Great text. We'll get
back to the text line. A lot of reaction until
still to that conversation. One other thing I wanted to
(22:40):
bring up here with the Lebron James stuff, because again,
coming at four o'clock is when the NBA League year
begins free agency frenzy. Hopefully the Nuggets will be involved.
I still maintain they will not do a lot other
than adding to depths. Dave continues to say that MPGA
is going to get traded.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
We will see.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
How do you think the ownership change with the Lakers
might factor in a little bit, Dave to what Lebron
James and simultaneously what ownership now thinks of Lebron James
and his antics. How do you think the addition or
the sale to Mark Walter will impact things.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
I think it will not impact things at all. Okay,
he's under contract, right, these are these are fully guaranteed contracts.
So the Lakers, unless Lebron wants to get traded, the
Lakers are stuck with Lebron. So and just for clarification,
(23:41):
what I said was, I thought there would be a
pretty good chance that MPG would be traded. Not in
some hedges there, No, I thought there were, and I
still think there's a pretty good chance that MPG will
be traded.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Just you know, I like to strive for accuracy.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
Sure, and sure I would suggest that others aspire to
the same lofty goal.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I never took you as a moonwalker, but here we are.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Yeah, because you ain't got to worry about me backstroking.
I'm easy to find, if I say it. And but
I want I wanted to be accurately portrayed. You counselor
have a tendency Maybe a pattern would be more appropriate
of proclivity switching things.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Just a little bit to fit the narrative.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
So yes, I do think I thought there was a
good chance in PJ would be moved.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
I still think I think of.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
That about h Ryan one Ryan Edwards, because it seems
that you worked with him before. Yeah, I have, And
it seemed to be part of his interwoven DNA to
do that, to make the audience think that you said
something that you really didn't say.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, yes, welcome to my world.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Well you've spoken definites when we I mean, this was
just two weeks ago when you were telling me it's
definitely gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
What did I say?
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Really, Pop.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Grant, Yeah, I have the audio. I was busy last week.
You're on vacation. Yeah, so when the time comes, I
have it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
I have it.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Well, I'll say this to your question earlier today. Will
something changed with the Lakers due to new ownership? I'm
gonna say I do believe so, because where Robo Lincoln,
Gina Bus, Genie Buss was running the show along with
you know, Lebron James, now Mark Waltz is like, no, man,
I've run this.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I am running this, so thank you. Does that mean?
Well that that.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Means that now they're gonna take that power that Rob
Lincoln Jenie Buss gave Lebron to kind of build the
roster himself, and in the mind of both he and
the rich Paul No, he.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Wants to take over like this is this is my team.
You're part of it.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I'm paying you an enormous amount of money to fifty
two point whatever million that he opted in. But I'm
going to dictate this and right now I know you
were fading out. This team is now going to be
based around Luca and we're going to build what we
feel is best suited for him.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Not you.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Well, I guess so, I mean that would be the
logical thing to assume, but I mean I also assume
that's what Rob Polenka and Jeanie Buss wanted to do
when they made the deal for Luca. I don't think
anybody would say we acquired Luca gave up ad and
what we had to give up. And yet the future
(26:37):
is a forty one year old and not a twenty
five year old.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
So but the reality of.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
It is, again Lebron from a contractual standpoint, is clearly
in the driver's seat.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Now.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Maybe, if Nick's point is right, maybe that's why Rich
Paul issued the statement because he's feeling a certain way
about the new ownership and like, you know, you guys
are talking about future, and we're not interested in future.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
We're interested in trying to find a way to win.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
Now, I guess that, I guess that could be true.
But still he's under contract and there's only you know,
if he really wanted to go somewhere else, he had
an opportunity to say nope, no, thank you, it become
a free agent.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
You're one hundred percent right, And so what was more
important to Lebron James in that very moment was it
to make sure he made fifty three million or to
actually chase a ring because it's gonna be difficult for
contending teams. Now, maybe the New York Knicks, they can
do a few things. I don't think the Cleveland Cavaliers
can make this happen, like like people keep talking about
maybe a reunion there, they'd have to sell off at
least three of their major players to be able to
(27:43):
get under that apron to get Lebron James, Well, what Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Go back to that because you already have all to
do team and Donovan Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
And I don't are I don't think they would.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
It would be more based on the way the season ended,
like he was such a thud. They were the number
one seed in the East and they just crashed in
the post.
Speaker 5 (28:01):
Injuries and everything but that would be the rest.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, but Cleveland has a chance.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
Now, look what's happening with the injury to Tyrese Halliburton
with the Achilles. Then you got Jason Tatum with the
Boston Celtics and they trader a Drew Holliday and Pasingis,
And then you look at what could possibly happen with
Milwaukee not knowing where Giannie is going. So it's wide
open for Cleveland. So I wouldn't even think about that.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
No, I mean fair, I'm just I'm going over the options,
and those don't feel like great options. That's why the
Nuggets keep coming back. But it would have to take
some maneuvering for the Nugget Sea.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
For me, the idea of lebron being here sounds great,
putting him with the color Yokiche, but you still have
an issue with your bench and then you still have
Bronni here.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
What does that mean long term? Right?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
And I know you guys was talking about, well, what
if that means it guarantees you an opportunity to win
a championship this year? Yeah, it does, but then it
hamstrings you in other ways and there's more years you're
gonna have with Nicola Jokic than Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm like to help with.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I guess the question you have to ask yourself, Dave,
is are you a Lebron James away from actually winning
a championship?
Speaker 3 (29:07):
You?
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Is that the missing ingredient at this point? It doesn't
feel like that, right.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
No, And I'm a I mean, I say no quickly,
and I'm a Lebron fan. Sure right, I mean again,
I don't agree with everything he said, but in terms
of his basketball play, he's a brilliant player. But what
this team needs to me is perimeter scoring an ability
I've said, and even when Gabe Vincent left Miami and
(29:35):
went to the Lakers, somebody or somebody's like Gabe Vincent,
guy that can I don't even know where he is
salary wise, not sure it would fit in I think
he I don't know. I think he's making fourteen or
fifteen millions, and it's probably not going.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
To run on a three year thirty three millions.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
So eleven yep.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
So I mean to me, you've got to look for
guys that can knock some shots down.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
And I still think they.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Need to increase their their wing ability defensively as well.
But I've said for anybody who's listened to the show
forever or just any length of time, I've said.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Year after year after year after year, probably for.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
The last ten years, this team has to improve in
their ability to knock three point shots down.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Let me ask you, guys really quickly defense, right, So
what do you think about a guy like a Devin Booker, right,
A guy who can create his own shot, another mass,
a guy who can filled up the stat sheet. But
once again, you still have more quality years with a guy.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I don't know the Phoenix is interested in moving him.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
I'm just speaking out loud because for me, I think
about age, and I think about production.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I think the more realistic shot. And there's been Ruber
report of interest from mark Stein today. Luke Canard might
be an interest of them.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
Luke Canard can really shoot it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Right, three point three percent from beyond the ark last
year forty five. He's got a career almost forty four percent.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Yeah, yeah, I mean he can shoot the ball.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Now, he's not going to cover anybody, but he can
shoot the ball.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
But then I'm out then, I mean, first of all,
because you need to be able to defend. They got
a score I'll be out on Lucnar. But but I'm
just saying I go back to.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
I want you to be in on Lukenark. You should, Okay.
So here's why I'm saying. I'm not.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
Looking at the Pacers, looking at Okay. See what do
they do well in these playoffs? They play great team defense,
and their role players understood their roles. The Nuggets can
go out there and do the same thing piece Millett
together with guys who have that same type of mentality,
who understand their role.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'm with you, Dave. What does that mean?
Speaker 5 (31:47):
We'll try to convince him.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
I just ran in and didn't have my headphones on.
What exactly did I say?
Speaker 1 (31:57):
No, I'm just you were saying that you were in
the kitchen last week and you got the you got
the audio of you saying that it wasn't a guarantee.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
That Yeah.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
No, I never ever, not once used the word guarantee, Okay,
not once. So when you ascribe that to me, it's
it's what fallacious fallacious?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Okay, there's another there's another descriptors there. I was a
little fraid say it's BS. I was going to spell
it up for you, but need the gig the gig,
need the gig.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
So this this happened last week, and I'm sure you
guys talked about it at a time.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
But the one thing I wanted to ask.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You is what you would make of that story, the
collusion case, uh, the NFL collusion case and the report
that Russell Wilson was looking for a fully guaranteed, seven year, three.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Hundred and fifty million dollar contract. What did you make
of that?
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Well, I mean the collusion case to me, I think,
as a former player, is.
Speaker 2 (32:57):
All about not very much. You know.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
Do I believe as a former player that the league
has in the past and continues to do what they
can to keep salaries as low as they possibly can
given the constraint of the CBA.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
The answer to that is yes.
Speaker 4 (33:27):
Do I ever think that owners have talked about now
even before? I mean now, first round draft choices are
are slotted right back in the day, back in the
and the guy who really falls into this category, Sam Brafford.
Back in the Sam Bradford days, what was happening. Salaries
(33:47):
and bonuses in particular were not slotted, and so you
had rookies, unproven rookies coming in. And I think Sam
Bradford's signing bonus was like fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Or something to that effect. And so in the next.
Speaker 4 (34:00):
CBA, the Players Association went hard at trying to come
up with a better way to spread some of the
money towards veterans that had proven that they could play
at that level and not give such a large amount
of signing bonus to rookies who had not proven. And
(34:22):
I think the league went along with that. But in
the meantime, now you have slotted first round picks within reason,
everybody knows what they're going to make, including your signing bonus.
And ostensibly the reason the league, the reason the players
wanted to do that was so that more money could
be in the pot for veterans five six, seven, eight, nine,
(34:45):
ten year guys not to get squeezed out of the
league before their time simply because they're making too much money.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And there wasn't anything surprising about the report, Nick. I
think though this is a rare for me. Most of
the time I side with the players, like doing this.
As long as been doing this, being around players, I
tend to side with the players. This is the first
time that I actually am with ownership, with management yeah,
you can't give out you can't give out fully guaranteed contracts.
You just can't do it.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
I don't think that you have to give out fully
guaranteed contracts. And I think Dave playing before me, I
think he agreed with this. Things have changed a lot.
Or even though you're not getting fully guaranteed contracts, they're
guaranteeing more money now than they guarantee when I play
and when they played as well.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
So it's a way of kind of getting around to it.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
But say that conversation about collusion, because I get asked
about it all the time, and I'm like, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Have to figure that it does happen. The owners meet
twice a year in March May, so they.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Get a chance to talk about, Okay, well, what's on our.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Agenda, what do we need to change.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
How do we make sure that we kind of maintain
control over salary caps in the game doesn't get out
of control.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
I think NFL head coaches should have guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
No, No, I don't, not really, but but that one
I could sort of talk myself.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Or given the same answer, but for completely opposite reason.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Sure, my reason, the reason that.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
That's a tough one is a tough one.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
The reason I don't want fully guaranteed contracts and the
players is because of the salary cap and the way
you have to construct these fifty three man rosters.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
Like I think, it's a very difficult thing to be
able to to do.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
You know the solution I would have for both of you,
give them two your contracts.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Just that's it. That's it.
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Your two year contracts, you're two years wild. Your two
years are guaranteed. Then you know what you got to
come back in and negotiate. And if you played really well,
you're probably going to make more money, and if you
didn't play very well, you're not going to make Now
the players, and I'm a former player, the players would
hate that. But if you want to get if you
want to have a fully or maybe three, if you
(36:58):
want to have a fully guarantee ted contract, you're not
going to get a five year, fully guaranteed contract. And
there's a part of me that understands that because guys
get hurt so often and in such devastating ways that
a certain percent of there's those guys never have a
chance to complete their contract because their body gives out.
(37:19):
So I gets that's the thing that the NFL has
going against it from a player standpoint, as opposed to
baseball and basketball
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