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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Five, six, six nine Zeros or Kae Commaspery Health text
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Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson in studio or walking up to
six o'clock. We have Broncos Country tonight this evening, right,
because I think the Rockies believe the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You're off, oh with.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Steve Atwater should be fun for to hearing out Water
coming up on the show this evening, all right, So
again maybe a free agency. We continue to keep you
updated on that. I want to get back into the NFL,
but really quickly. Here D'Angel Russell agreeing to a two year,
thirteen million dollar contract with the Dallas Mavericks moments ago.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I liked that deal for them.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I would have I don't know again, if the Nuggets
had the money, I would have been interested in D'Angel
Russell here, Dave, what do you think about him?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I think he is.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
He's a streaky shooter. I've seen him when he's played
really well. I've seen him when he couldn't throw it
in the ocean. Yeah, I wouldn't have hated hated the deal.
I mean, he's he's a guy that at point was
the top five pick in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I think he's he's underachieved really in his career.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
But yeah, yeah, I think I think probably you know,
Kyrie's not going to be back to win probably first
of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Right right with his injury. So I think it gives
you a guy he's got, he's got a good handle,
and as long as he understands his role and is
willing to fit into his role, I think he's he's
probably a plus, little plus, but a plus for the MAVs.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh my gosh, hold on, I just make sure this
is real. What do you see?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh, Dave? Now what.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The Denver Nuggets are trading Michael Porter Junior and unprotected
twenty thirty two first round pick to the Brooklyn Nets
for Cam Johnson.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Uh sounds like one of us was right and one
of us was not right. Yes, shall I set this
up right? It's okay, you can say it, go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh my god, because then.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Earlier he said that, you know, oh he was he
was dancing on my grave, yes, dancing on my grave?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, tap dance yep? Wow, Freddi, what are you back?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You're backstroking out of this a little bit. Uh wow,
So let me ask this question.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What do you think about this, Ryan Edwards? I mean,
I really like Cam Johnson.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Uh but and that's actually more than I thought they'd
be able to get the twenty. They're treating a twenty
thirty two, so they have a twenty thirty two first
round pick.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I'm protected for Cam Johnson twenty thirty two. Huh Okay.
I'm also I'm stunned. I got to be honest, just
the first time I've.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Ever seen Ryan speechless. So let me let me give
this a moment. Let's let this marry date for a sight.
I'm I'm not.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Saying, did you guys ever put a wager on this?
Of course? Interesting, you're my favorites man, all right, so
let's listen. Listen, let's go ahead and break this down.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You like Hill to read that video.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You were like.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
He was trying to matter when we're on the air,
So it's unavoidable, No wonder how is he going to
drive home and just kind of all this kind of
sit in his mind, knowing as though you you said
this and now it's come to fruition.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I said, I.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Would be surprised if Michael Porter Junior is not traded.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm not so sure that Michael Porter Junior isn't a
better player. I gotta be honest. Well, he got traded,
so let's care.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
What do you think at this moment, it doesn't matter, right,
he got traded. There's a lither guy who's gonna be
playing that position.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Day tip of the cat, my friend, Hey, listen, I
gotta give it to you. I got it. I did not.
I did not think they.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Were going to do this.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think I think they had to do it. And
MPJ again, for anybody who's had and I haven't been
one of the only parts of my body I haven't
had operated on, but I haven't had back surgery. But
I've had friends that have had back surgery and it's
(04:31):
I mean, it's a difficult he said two.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
He said two back surgery.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So you know, you look at and when when players
it's the same thing in the NFL, But when players
in the NBA are on the court, we grade them,
we see their faces, we grade them on sort of
the scale of them being one hundred percent physically. And
I don't know, maybe Michael Porter Junior really wasn't and
(04:57):
maybe he never.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Gets gets there.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
He was frustrating in terms of at times just making
what I thought would be natural sort of plays when
a ball would come off to him, or just you know,
being stronger with a rebound or being tougher defensively. I mean,
he is six', Ten he's an unbelievably gifted shooter THAT
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i always thought with a guy that has that ability
to score from the, perimeter if he would just develop
an ability strength wise to be able to occasionally take
the ball to the, basket then he would increase you,
know he would increase his game exponentially in terms of
being much more difficult to. Defend BUT i will say
(05:46):
this WHEN I i came to the conclusion That i'd
be very surprised if he's not traded in this playoff
that we just ended with The. Nuggets and there were
there were two times watching every single minute of playoff,
(06:07):
action that there was a player on the court that for.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A, moment.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
In an animated, way showed his displeasure.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
WITH.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Mpj and WHEN i saw, that not once but, TWICE i,
said you know, what they got to make a. Move
they got to make a. MOVE i, mean The nuggets
are obligated to do whatever they can to be the
best team they can for as long as they can Keep,
(06:46):
joker because when he decides to go ride them little,
ponies he's Gotten. Serbia and when he Decides i've had
enough of this And i'm going back to the, countryside
you talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
A franchise that will be changing a.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Lot SO i saw The joker frustrated a couple of
times with WHAT i consider to be just normal basketball
reactions THAT mpj did not, have and that was one
of the things THAT i based my assertion.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
On, Listen i'll say like, THIS i was.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Wrong do you want to?
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Start that's how IF i were, you that's How i'm.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Saying that's, YEAH i was free.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Words you, know.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
This is a. Stomach you can't even formulate a.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
Sentence it's okay to really give your want because sometimes
maybe sometimes as, children you're asked to write things down
because it's a little easier than.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
For the great.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Questions you can. Write you can write it down for
the price.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Tag, OKAY i actually Like Cameron johnson. BETTER i think
they're pretty similar. Players but is that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
The same AS i was?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Wrong that's Invested Ryan edwards.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Language that's all you're gonna. Get David he's not gonna
put anything else on the.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Record he's got a twenty one million dollar cap hit not.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Only, wrong but like rubbing my nose in it, today
fresh from a trip To San.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Diego it's twenty one million this, year twenty three million
next year versus what was it forty?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
TWO i think FOR i think it was thirty seven this. Year,
YEAH i think you're, right forty forty two next year FOR, mpj.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Which is probably the reason you ended up having to
Give way the first round pick as.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well i'll say, This Cam johnson is a better all
around player that Partly sure he is he the perimeter
shooter WHEN mpg gets.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Hot, no no he's.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Not but, listen there there there aren't too many guys
in the league that you'd want to play a game
of horse with and, say, Hey i'll BEAT.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Mpj but what does that say ABOUT mpj after all these?
Years AND i, Know dave you talked about the, injuries
but there was always projections of WHAT mpj could, become
and you talk about being a perimeter shooter out on
a short. Wing, yes he would knock down those shots,
occasionally but he didn't always follow his.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Shots he didn't always play great, defense and.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
He would just go out there and just wait for
someone to distribute a ball to. Him and TODAY'S, nba
with so many teams in The west becoming so, talented
you have to be able to create your own. Shot
and The nuggets, say, look when you know we made
changes with THE gm and the head, coach we definitely
need to make. Changes we don't have the accessibility of
having as many draft, picks so we have to find
(09:44):
ways to make this team. Better now does this make
The nuggets more of a contender in twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Five adam think.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
SO i think it's the first step in three or
four steps that will.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
HAPPEN i think you're, right because because part of this
is being pointed out, here they're going to save seventeen
million dollars in this process of Moving porter and Adding Cam.
Johnson so now they now they will certainly have a
little bit more flexibility and players that they can add
here in this free.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Agency with that.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Being, said this is the first. Step what does the
second step look? LIKE i freedom some. Cash are you
going to go out and get A Bruce.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Brown WITHOUT i think, maybe depending on what you know
What bruce wants from a financial. STANDPOINT i will tell you.
This If i'm running The nuggets, Here i'm finding a
knockdown perimeter. Shooter it doesn't have to be a. Guy
(10:49):
maybe it's an undrafted. GUY i don't. Know maybe it's
the second round. Guy maybe it's a guy in somebody's
bench that they just sort of, got they. Overlooked, Yeah
jordan Clarkston utah is found probably too.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Expensive, WELL i mean right, Now utah is trying to
buy him out of his.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Contract he's a great bitch player. Guy he's he's a
twenty million dollar a year.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Guy he or is He Jordan.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Clark with The?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Lakers that same?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Guy, YEAH i don't think he's an eighteen to TWENTY
i Think.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah his last deal was two years twenty eight with
The Utah, jazz so fourteen.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yep and they're trying to buy him.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Out that's, doable and it upgrades your bench, play which
has been horrendous over the past couple of.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Seasons, Yeah Jordan clarkson always seems to have a good
game against The uggets.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Too. Always, YEAH i DON'T i don't hate the. DEAL
i don't hate that deal at.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
All i'm just saying, again go back if you're a basketball,
fan and you appreciated the Way Oaks city played. Defense
go back and look at how that roster has been,
constituted and you have you have two guys on the
roster that were not, drafted and you have four or,
(12:07):
FIVE i can't remember that were second round draft.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Choices that's six or seven.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Of your top twelve guys that were not even drafted
in the first round of THE.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Nba, well you guys spoken into. Existence Bruce brown is
signing a one year deal with The Denver. Nuggets Per Sam, shrania.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
There it, is and he takes another sip of his.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Drake it's just still curb of the, frog kind of
stip of the team back there once.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Again now if they add were able to Add Jordan, clarkson,
right and what was the other?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Guy you look what the guy you was saying will Play.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Canard so so if you were to add those, Guys,
now these guys don't seem like household, names but you're
putting a roster together with guys with a specialized skill.
Set that's, right, right and now you're looking sort of
like A Indiana pacers Or, okay.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Se TAM i MEAN i would say What nick just
said is so true in THE, nba and again we
had a lot of fun talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Lou dorton Lou.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Dort but if you stop and think about, that Lou
dort is six y five and two hundred and thirty pounds.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And is a is a hell of.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
A defensive player and just has a pitbull mentality to.
Him got key rebounds down the, stretch, tough is an, adequate,
free stationary three point.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Shooter BUT i, mean if you took Loud dort and put.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Him somewhere, ELSE i don't. KNOW i don't know that
Lou dort is considered to be necessarily a great player
on any team that he goes.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
TO i really.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
DON'T i think he's limited, offensively, Right so you, KNOW
i mean there's guys like, that and Lou dort. Wouldn't
was Lou dord a first round? PICK i don't think he. Was,
No SO i don't think.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
He, Was but you NEED i, mean he's a.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Hammer he he he is a, hammer and he's a
stationary three point shooter that has developed that skill to
WHERE i don't know what he shot for the year
probably wasn't, great but he had a few key shots.
H caruso is a little bit more of a consistent
three point, shooter but he's a great defensive.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Player.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Mindset you got to have a couple of those, guys
glue guys on any team in any, sport at any, level.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Because even if their shots not, falling like you, say
you could always use. Effort defensive, effort get on the,
transition get your hands in a passing on the, floor
and you turn your defense Into and that's WHAT.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Mpj could not do. It he could not give The
nuggets if his shot was not. Falling he was a
complete non factor for the most. Part AND i, LISTEN
i HOPE mpj plays. WELL i think he's A i
think he's a nice. KID i really. Do he's you,
know young man. Whatever he's had some some real tough
circumstances in his personal.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
LIFE i hope he goes To brooklyn and lights it.
UP i really.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Do there you, Go, so just to recap very quickly
here for The Denver, nuggets they Trade Michael Porter junior
and a twenty thirty two unprotected first round pick to
The nets For Cam johnson and then now just a moment,
AGO i don't have the details yet on the one year,
deal But Bruce brown on a one year deal with
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the different you got, something you clear your throat there to,
day it just keeps saying over and over, again.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
All, right you don't, Listen.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Missen you're, Right, oh you're, right, great tell me we recorded.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That oh, wow that is, rare Like moon Or.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Smart i'm just gonna go back tonight and listen to
the first hour of any show because somebody was sitting.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Here, hey.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He was feeling.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
HISSELF i to be, Fair, yeah a lot of the
moves they had done up to this point were pretty
much in line with WHAT i thought they were gonna
docept TRADING mpj and Acquiring Bruce, brown other other than.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That other than, That, yeah like to Play Missus. Lincoln
the front.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Office move was pretty close to WHAT i said was gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Happen, no, YEAH i just thought they say status. Quo
Oh wallace was status. QUO i, Thought i'm.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
SORRY i thought he was employed by The Minnesota timberwolves last.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Year fair, Enough what did you say?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Said can't you just have to say sometimes you just
got to practice.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
It and that's why it's almost like if you if
he was choking and trying to do THE hotei lick on.
Yourself you pop yourself right in the back of the,
neck and you just SAY i was.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Wrong you guys can't see it right now because you're
driving in your. Car and you know, what here's What
i'm Gonna i'm going to help you guys. Out, Wow
i'm gonna just take a photo Of ryan's face right.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Now, no it's. Okay, no he's covering. Up he's covered.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Up, yes it's. Okay ryan speak to the. Public i'm.
Good what do you, mean, figure, FIGURE i feel.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Good i'm Actually i'm what more, Stop i'm more interested
in these, movies the ones THAT i Wanted Bruce brown to.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Be.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That that was one we all agreed.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
On we all agreed. On Bruce brown was beat with.
You you don't get.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
To Claim bruce Brown.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
In, Said i'd love to Have Bruce brown. BACK i
said that weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
AGO i didn't think he was gonna get, moved but
mostly BECAUSE i didn't think they would trade him for
pennies on the. Dollar but the thing is they were
able to get back a player that can start a small,
forward and that that right, there Because Kem johnson is
a starting caliber small. Forward AND i did not think
we're gonna be able to do that under the, circumstances
and for THAT.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I was.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Wrong, Hey, greg can you send that audio to? Me?
Please thank you for. THAT i, yes it's, okay, man
it's all. Right it. Happens it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
HAPPENS i do want to get some more of your
thoughts on The Steelers dolphins trade when we do. That
on the other, side keep, recapping and obviously things are
happening now here that nuggets very busy here in the
second hour of free agency. Frenzy but you guys both
thought The dolphins won the trade with The steelers this.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Morning SO i found very, interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Especially since The steelers they think that they are putting
together what is a run at a Super bowl With
Aaron rodgers in the final year of his playing.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Career but actually think you're right About Jalen.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
RAMSEY i don't think he's for.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Everyone and Makea fitzpatrick is fascinating because he just got
traded a few years ago From. Miami he's going back
To miami a different, circumstances different coaching, staff all those
kinds of. Things Johnny smith's thing is is that's a good.
Addition Arser smith's this is like his third third time
working With Johnny, smith so that was clearly a target.
(19:22):
THERE i don't Know Man's that's an interesting one Because,
miami though under the, radar might have ACTUALLY i guess
improved a little bit through this. Process everybody's thinking it's
the other way. Around pittsburgh is the one that's out
there spiking the. Football as though they put together a
championship roster right.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Now i'm not gonna agree that they. HAVE i, mean Adding,
ramsey they fill in their, mind is going to help
their defense passing, defense which was twenty fifth last, year
so they're thinking about Adding Aaron. Rodgers, still those, offense
they've got to score. Points so other team's gonna have
to get out of the balance, attack so they're gonna
have to pass the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
More so that's Where jalen Rams he comes.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
In but the idea is that they give a lot
of points Because ramsey is a double move.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Guy but here's a great thing about.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
It, THOUGH i, mean some guys who's to go out
it all the, Time Jayalen ramsey AND Dk maykehalp now
they're on the same.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Team how about. THAT i feel it's all been. ROBBED
i feel as a. FAN i feel.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Robbed you think you Think Jayalen, ramsey because ACTUALLY i
wonder If Justin simmons would be an interesting target there
for the for the safety position At.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Pittsburgh what do you? Think i'm honestly not.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
SURE i THINK i Think justin is still a really good.
Athlete can make a lot of. Plays it depends what
you're asking him to. Do are you asking him to
play middle of the field and just be an athlete
and play one free and you, know try to go help. Guy,
YEAH i think he can do. That are you asking
(20:51):
him to play down the box a? Lot and that's
Not that's really not his not his. Strength by the,
Way Kevon looney just signed with The. PELICANS i THOUGHT
i thought there was a chance that The nuggets might
have an interest in him as a backup as a
(21:14):
backup To. Jokic but two year deal for sixteen million
he goes to The. Pelicans.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Interesting all, Right we'll come. Back we'll keep you posted
ON nba free. Agency we'll continue to dissect that trade that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Happened this morning as. Well Michael Porter.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Jr and a first round pick in twenty thirty two
For Cam johnson Small ford with The Brooklyn. Nets reading
that you wanted to make sure you read. It you
read it to. YOURSELF i.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Did your facial expression was similar to you reading a
message that your basement had just flooded and there were
six inches of. Water, honey when you come, home it was, like, oh,
tured like four shades of, white like you got to
be kidding.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Me, Golly i'm Still i'm still a little lost For
zil on this. One but Credit, warszoo you called your.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Shots Benjamin albright also said he, thought And i'm sure
he's gonna Be.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh he's gonna be all over.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You, yeah he's gonna be having some fun with that,
tonight which is. Great The, nuggets of, course we mentioned
they save seventeen million dollars in this, process so they'll
have some options and including as we found out moments after, that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
They're bringing In Bruce brown has agreed to a one year.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Deal still don't have the deal For Bruce, brown but
we'll get that to you here in just a matter of.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Moments five, six six nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Or Kawe cobsperer health text, line and we'll have some
more reaction to it. Tomorrow i'm sure there'll be some
more follow. UP i do think before we get back
to the trade from earlier to, DAY i do think
this is a sort of a message sending kind of.
Play like both players average pretty close to the same
points per. Game maybe you Like Cam johnson's game a
little bit. Better we talked about maybe he's a more
complete player Than Michael Porter. Junior but in the end
(23:08):
your treat you're swapping starting small forwards from these two.
Teams so that's what you're that's your esstinst do, it
and you're sending a first round, pick and you're doing
it in a way where you could save some money
in the process and maybe add to your. Depth so
in that, RESPECT i love the move because you get
a chance to add to the depth that you were desperately.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Needing but the overarching point of this.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Whole thing for me is that you are sending a
message to the, roster especially because this is a major
move to a championship, team that you're sending away kind
of a cornerstone, player at least the guy you thought
was gonna be a cornerstone.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
PLAYER i love the move as, well and the REASON
i love it because one and don't take this the
wrong way ANY mpja. Supporters but this is the best
thing for The nuggets based on pure the business of.
Basketball and then the addition to that was The Bruce brown.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
News this is WHY i love.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
IT i, mean you bring in two guys who are
going to be committed to playing on both ends of the.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Floor you already know Who Bruce brown.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Is he's familiar with the, team even Though Mike malone
is not coaching. It you, Know David alderman was here
When Bruce brown was here as, well so the familiarity
with the scheme and the, players it goes. Well And
i've been harping on this for the past two, seasons
being better, defensively AND i was a little upset When
Bruce brown left for The, pacers But i'm glad that he's.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Back and it's just kind of turning the.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Pay change in the culture and Given David, alderman you,
know more players to just toss out. There because what
The nuggets currently have not the starting, unit the guys
coming off the, bench they really don't. Happen this is
the excellent opportunity For Kristen brown to as.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well it looks Like Bruce brown's deal is going to
be for Vet, men so AROUND i think that's around
two million If i'm looking it up right.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Now but he's all. Good he got paid by The,
Pacers he's all.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Good that's still a smoking deal if you can get it.
DONE i, mean the fact, is you're, right was?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It what did he? Sign that was like a year
like forty five?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Millions so a Vet min deal according TO i think
this Is Sam emick that just tweet this out a moment.
Ago so a Vet min deal For Bruce, Brown that's that's.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Incredible that's.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Money that's, uh that's good news for Nikolea. JOKIC i
think he And Bruce brown. Close and The Cam johnson,
THING i, think AND i got to be honest ABOUT
i haven't followed him as much since he Left phoenix
and went to The, nets BUT i mean that in
(25:43):
that championship series when he was With phoenix and The
sun's played The, BUCKS i Mean Cam, johnson you, know
was a good two way. PLAYER i MEAN i think of,
him and of course we got to see how he
plays In, denver BUT i think of him as a
guy that give you effort on, defense pretty good perimeter, score.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Has has a low blocks, game as.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Well SO i just, think, again is he the elite
shooter THAT mpj? Is probably, not but very few guys
in this league. Are BUT i think his his overall
game is much more well. Rounded AND i look at
this as a as a plus move for The.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Nuggets completely.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Agree so, far got to give high marks to the
unorthodox front, office.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
To The, brown the brand New wallace from The timberwolves
in another change The nuggets made in their front, office
and also To Ben tenzer who has been here for a.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
While, yes congratulations to internally promoted that's, right and externally
Promoted John.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Wallace, Yes EXECUTIVE vp Of Player, persondel that's. Good, yeah the,
triumvirate if you. Will, yes With Josh. Cronky, Imagine Josh
cronky had a little bit to, say so we talked about.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
That that was the one thing out of this whole
mess that we could agree on That Josh.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Cronki, uh he's a basketball. GUY i know you.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
People get frustrated with owners of teams and people that have,
money AND i get all, that but he's a basketball.
Guy he's got a good basketball since to, him played
At missouri and AND i think HE i think he
wants to put more of his stamp on this, franchise
AND i think the moves they've made so far are
are just, good solid.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Moves, yeah this is the beginning, of you, know truly
turning that page away From Calvin booth and Coach malall
and giving To Kola jokich some, support so much need to,
support but also Given David, alloman you, know some guys
that he can go, to he can rely, on because last,
year even in you, know going seven games At, okay,
(27:55):
see you can tell like even with Coach malall not
having a lot of faith to go really deep in your.
Bench now this gives And nuggets an opportunity to do.
That and more, importantly the idea is to. Compete in
order to get to a playoffs Or Western conference final
or a title, game you have to have the ability to.
Compete so now we were talking earlier About Nicola jokic
(28:17):
and not wasting his.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Years this move right. Here now we still have to
wait to the sea.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Hout the season played out well based on the moves
that they made thus far and opens them up to
make more.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Moves i'm really liking and loving What i'm saying right.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Now, YEAH i am, TOO i am.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
TOO I my initial reaction WAS i wasn't so sure
THAT i liked the move so. Much but the fact
that you're able to save so much money in the
process and you can add to your, depth it's hard to.
Argue and now you're Getting Bruce brown on a vet mend.
Deal it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Strong pretty. Strong we'll see what they do. Next maybe
that's An arkansas. THING i don't.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Know Maybe benjamin All, bright not that guy. Crowing he.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Guaranteed so now we're guaranteeing these.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
THINGS i did guarantee, it and you should know by
now IF i say the word guarantee on, something it's
it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
HAPPEN i need the. AUDIO i need the audio on that.
One we have the.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Audio then if it's never, happened all.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
RIGHT i didn't guarantee. IT i SAID i would be
surprised if it didn't. Happen, yeah you're a little more.
MEASURED i tried to paint you into a corner on that.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
SUCCESSFULLY i didn't say it was working just and then
you went back at it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Today at three. O'clock Now.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I'm just, hearing.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh, Yeah i'm pulling that audio.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Too and then it's like a bug on a.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Windshooper, actually in all reality, days you should you should
have at that time doubled.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Down and said you're you, Know, brian you're.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
RIGHT i did guarantee, it and then two hours later
you would have been really in good.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
SHAPE i think that's been in pretty good. Shape.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Anyway you actually said the three words that never can
out of your pie.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
HOLE i was. Wrong you yetded? Qualifiers and if you
just were not out of the, qualifiers is.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It qualifying for me to SAY i will be surprised
if he's not.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Traded i'm just SAYING i tried to help. You.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
No, look you tried to add the qualifiers to, me
and that's WHEN i pushed.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Back wait a, MINUTE i bet.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
God Will lutz isn't out. There right down the, way
the goalposter moved all over the. PLACE i just SAY
i tried to put you in a better, spot and
the audience KNOWS i was. Wrong such a.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Rarity such a.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Rarity by the, way congratulations To Brook, lopez who just
signed a two year contract with The clippers eighteen million.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Dollars what do you Think yiannis thinks about that? MOVE
i got to get the hell out of.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Here somebody could get come get, me, now come get
me this instant both. Eyes, yes you think we'll get
A yannis what happens For giannis Or lebron? NEWS i
mean those students who is team to be the biggest dominoes.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
THAT i don't Think lebron's going. Anywhere, OKAY i Think
lebron is in L. A i'm. Not i'm not sure About. Yannis,
YEAH i think we'll Get lebron news Before yannis.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
News, well since you're in the guarantee kind of, Mood,
ben what's gonna?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
HAPPEN i, Guarantee i'm NOT i don't.
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KNOW i guarantee That grant does have some audio here
for us to listen.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
To go, Ahead this Is ben's. Guarantee, Okay i'm an.
IDIOT i was, like, Wow, wow.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Nailed.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It
Five, six, six nine Zeros or Kae Commaspery Health text
line if you want to interact with the show, Dave Logan,
Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson in studio or walking up to
six o'clock. We have Broncos Country tonight this evening, right,
because I think the Rockies believe the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
You're off, oh with.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Steve Atwater should be fun for to hearing out Water
coming up on the show this evening, all right, So
again maybe a free agency. We continue to keep you
updated on that. I want to get back into the NFL,
but really quickly. Here D'Angel Russell agreeing to a two year,
thirteen million dollar contract with the Dallas Mavericks moments ago.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I liked that deal for them.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
I would have I don't know again, if the Nuggets
had the money, I would have been interested in D'Angel
Russell here, Dave, what do you think about him?
Speaker 3 (00:42):
I think he is.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
He's a streaky shooter. I've seen him when he's played
really well. I've seen him when he couldn't throw it
in the ocean. Yeah, I wouldn't have hated hated the deal.
I mean, he's he's a guy that at point was
the top five pick in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
I think he's he's underachieved really in his career.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
But yeah, yeah, I think I think probably you know,
Kyrie's not going to be back to win probably first
of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Right right with his injury. So I think it gives
you a guy he's got, he's got a good handle,
and as long as he understands his role and is
willing to fit into his role, I think he's he's
probably a plus, little plus, but a plus for the MAVs.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Oh my gosh, hold on, I just make sure this
is real. What do you see?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Oh, Dave? Now what.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
The Denver Nuggets are trading Michael Porter Junior and unprotected
twenty thirty two first round pick to the Brooklyn Nets
for Cam Johnson.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Uh sounds like one of us was right and one
of us was not right. Yes, shall I set this
up right? It's okay, you can say it, go right ahead.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Oh my god, because then.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Earlier he said that, you know, oh he was he
was dancing on my grave, yes, dancing on my grave?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yes, tap dance yep? Wow, Freddi, what are you back?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You're backstroking out of this a little bit. Uh wow,
So let me ask this question.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
What do you think about this, Ryan Edwards? I mean,
I really like Cam Johnson.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Uh but and that's actually more than I thought they'd
be able to get the twenty. They're treating a twenty
thirty two, so they have a twenty thirty two first
round pick.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I'm protected for Cam Johnson twenty thirty two. Huh Okay.
I'm also I'm stunned. I got to be honest, just
the first time I've.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
Ever seen Ryan speechless. So let me let me give
this a moment. Let's let this marry date for a sight.
I'm I'm not.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Saying, did you guys ever put a wager on this?
Of course? Interesting, you're my favorites man, all right, so
let's listen. Listen, let's go ahead and break this down.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
You like Hill to read that video.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You were like.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
He was trying to matter when we're on the air,
So it's unavoidable, No wonder how is he going to
drive home and just kind of all this kind of
sit in his mind, knowing as though you you said
this and now it's come to fruition.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
I said, I.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Would be surprised if Michael Porter Junior is not traded.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I'm not so sure that Michael Porter Junior isn't a
better player. I gotta be honest. Well, he got traded,
so let's care.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
What do you think at this moment, it doesn't matter, right,
he got traded. There's a lither guy who's gonna be
playing that position.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Day tip of the cat, my friend, Hey, listen, I
gotta give it to you. I got it. I did not.
I did not think they.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Were going to do this.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I think I think they had to do it. And
MPJ again, for anybody who's had and I haven't been
one of the only parts of my body I haven't
had operated on, but I haven't had back surgery. But
I've had friends that have had back surgery and it's
(04:31):
I mean, it's a difficult he said two.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
He said two back surgery.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
So you know, you look at and when when players
it's the same thing in the NFL, But when players
in the NBA are on the court, we grade them,
we see their faces, we grade them on sort of
the scale of them being one hundred percent physically. And
I don't know, maybe Michael Porter Junior really wasn't and
(04:57):
maybe he never.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Gets gets there.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
He was frustrating in terms of at times just making
what I thought would be natural sort of plays when
a ball would come off to him, or just you know,
being stronger with a rebound or being tougher defensively. I mean,
he is six', Ten he's an unbelievably gifted shooter THAT
(05:25):
i always thought with a guy that has that ability
to score from the, perimeter if he would just develop
an ability strength wise to be able to occasionally take
the ball to the, basket then he would increase you,
know he would increase his game exponentially in terms of
being much more difficult to. Defend BUT i will say
(05:46):
this WHEN I i came to the conclusion That i'd
be very surprised if he's not traded in this playoff
that we just ended with The. Nuggets and there were
there were two times watching every single minute of playoff,
(06:07):
action that there was a player on the court that for.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
A, moment.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
In an animated, way showed his displeasure.
Speaker 8 (06:24):
WITH.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Mpj and WHEN i saw, that not once but, TWICE i,
said you know, what they got to make a. Move
they got to make a. MOVE i, mean The nuggets
are obligated to do whatever they can to be the
best team they can for as long as they can Keep,
(06:46):
joker because when he decides to go ride them little,
ponies he's Gotten. Serbia and when he Decides i've had
enough of this And i'm going back to the, countryside
you talk about.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
A franchise that will be changing a.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Lot SO i saw The joker frustrated a couple of
times with WHAT i consider to be just normal basketball
reactions THAT mpj did not, have and that was one
of the things THAT i based my assertion.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
On, Listen i'll say like, THIS i was.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Wrong do you want to?
Speaker 9 (07:25):
Start that's how IF i were, you that's How i'm.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Saying that's, YEAH i was free.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Words you, know.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
This is a. Stomach you can't even formulate a.
Speaker 9 (07:40):
Sentence it's okay to really give your want because sometimes
maybe sometimes as, children you're asked to write things down
because it's a little easier than.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
For the great.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Questions you can. Write you can write it down for
the price.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Tag, OKAY i actually Like Cameron johnson. BETTER i think
they're pretty similar. Players but is that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
The same AS i was?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Wrong that's Invested Ryan edwards.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Language that's all you're gonna. Get David he's not gonna
put anything else on the.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Record he's got a twenty one million dollar cap hit not.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
Only, wrong but like rubbing my nose in it, today
fresh from a trip To San.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Diego it's twenty one million this, year twenty three million
next year versus what was it forty?
Speaker 4 (08:28):
TWO i think FOR i think it was thirty seven this. Year,
YEAH i think you're, right forty forty two next year FOR, mpj.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Which is probably the reason you ended up having to
Give way the first round pick as.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
Well i'll say, This Cam johnson is a better all
around player that Partly sure he is he the perimeter
shooter WHEN mpg gets.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Hot, no no he's.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Not but, listen there there there aren't too many guys
in the league that you'd want to play a game
of horse with and, say, Hey i'll BEAT.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Mpj but what does that say ABOUT mpj after all these?
Years AND i, Know dave you talked about the, injuries
but there was always projections of WHAT mpj could, become
and you talk about being a perimeter shooter out on
a short. Wing, yes he would knock down those shots,
occasionally but he didn't always follow his.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Shots he didn't always play great, defense and.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
He would just go out there and just wait for
someone to distribute a ball to. Him and TODAY'S, nba
with so many teams in The west becoming so, talented
you have to be able to create your own. Shot
and The nuggets, say, look when you know we made
changes with THE gm and the head, coach we definitely
need to make. Changes we don't have the accessibility of
having as many draft, picks so we have to find
(09:44):
ways to make this team. Better now does this make
The nuggets more of a contender in twenty twenty?
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Five adam think.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
SO i think it's the first step in three or
four steps that will.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
HAPPEN i think you're, right because because part of this
is being pointed out, here they're going to save seventeen
million dollars in this process of Moving porter and Adding Cam.
Johnson so now they now they will certainly have a
little bit more flexibility and players that they can add
here in this free.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Agency with that.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Being, said this is the first. Step what does the
second step look? LIKE i freedom some. Cash are you
going to go out and get A Bruce.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
Brown WITHOUT i think, maybe depending on what you know
What bruce wants from a financial. STANDPOINT i will tell you.
This If i'm running The nuggets, Here i'm finding a
knockdown perimeter. Shooter it doesn't have to be a. Guy
(10:49):
maybe it's an undrafted. GUY i don't. Know maybe it's
the second round. Guy maybe it's a guy in somebody's
bench that they just sort of, got they. Overlooked, Yeah
jordan Clarkston utah is found probably too.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Expensive, WELL i mean right, Now utah is trying to
buy him out of his.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Contract he's a great bitch player. Guy he's he's a
twenty million dollar a year.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Guy he or is He Jordan.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Clark with The?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Lakers that same?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Guy, YEAH i don't think he's an eighteen to TWENTY
i Think.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah his last deal was two years twenty eight with
The Utah, jazz so fourteen.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yep and they're trying to buy him.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
Out that's, doable and it upgrades your bench, play which
has been horrendous over the past couple of.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Seasons, Yeah Jordan clarkson always seems to have a good
game against The uggets.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Too. Always, YEAH i DON'T i don't hate the. DEAL
i don't hate that deal at.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
All i'm just saying, again go back if you're a basketball,
fan and you appreciated the Way Oaks city played. Defense
go back and look at how that roster has been,
constituted and you have you have two guys on the
roster that were not, drafted and you have four or,
(12:07):
FIVE i can't remember that were second round draft.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Choices that's six or seven.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Of your top twelve guys that were not even drafted
in the first round of THE.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Nba, well you guys spoken into. Existence Bruce brown is
signing a one year deal with The Denver. Nuggets Per Sam, shrania.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
There it, is and he takes another sip of his.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Drake it's just still curb of the, frog kind of
stip of the team back there once.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
Again now if they add were able to Add Jordan, clarkson,
right and what was the other?
Speaker 2 (12:43):
Guy you look what the guy you was saying will Play.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Canard so so if you were to add those, Guys,
now these guys don't seem like household, names but you're
putting a roster together with guys with a specialized skill.
Set that's, right, right and now you're looking sort of
like A Indiana pacers Or, okay.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
Se TAM i MEAN i would say What nick just
said is so true in THE, nba and again we
had a lot of fun talking about.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Lou dorton Lou.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Dort but if you stop and think about, that Lou
dort is six y five and two hundred and thirty pounds.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
And is a is a hell of.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
A defensive player and just has a pitbull mentality to.
Him got key rebounds down the, stretch, tough is an, adequate,
free stationary three point.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Shooter BUT i, mean if you took Loud dort and put.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
Him somewhere, ELSE i don't. KNOW i don't know that
Lou dort is considered to be necessarily a great player
on any team that he goes.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
TO i really.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
DON'T i think he's limited, offensively, Right so you, KNOW
i mean there's guys like, that and Lou dort. Wouldn't
was Lou dord a first round? PICK i don't think he. Was,
No SO i don't think.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
He, Was but you NEED i, mean he's a.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Hammer he he he is a, hammer and he's a
stationary three point shooter that has developed that skill to
WHERE i don't know what he shot for the year
probably wasn't, great but he had a few key shots.
H caruso is a little bit more of a consistent
three point, shooter but he's a great defensive.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Player.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Mindset you got to have a couple of those, guys
glue guys on any team in any, sport at any, level.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
Because even if their shots not, falling like you, say
you could always use. Effort defensive, effort get on the,
transition get your hands in a passing on the, floor
and you turn your defense Into and that's WHAT.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
Mpj could not do. It he could not give The
nuggets if his shot was not. Falling he was a
complete non factor for the most. Part AND i, LISTEN
i HOPE mpj plays. WELL i think he's A i
think he's a nice. KID i really. Do he's you,
know young man. Whatever he's had some some real tough
circumstances in his personal.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
LIFE i hope he goes To brooklyn and lights it.
UP i really.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Do there you, Go, so just to recap very quickly
here for The Denver, nuggets they Trade Michael Porter junior
and a twenty thirty two unprotected first round pick to
The nets For Cam johnson and then now just a moment,
AGO i don't have the details yet on the one year,
deal But Bruce brown on a one year deal with
(15:40):
the different you got, something you clear your throat there to,
day it just keeps saying over and over, again.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
All, right you don't, Listen.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Missen you're, Right, oh you're, right, great tell me we recorded.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
That oh, wow that is, rare Like moon Or.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Smart i'm just gonna go back tonight and listen to
the first hour of any show because somebody was sitting.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Here, hey.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
He was feeling.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
HISSELF i to be, Fair, yeah a lot of the
moves they had done up to this point were pretty
much in line with WHAT i thought they were gonna
docept TRADING mpj and Acquiring Bruce, brown other other than.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
That other than, That, yeah like to Play Missus. Lincoln
the front.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Office move was pretty close to WHAT i said was gonna.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Happen, no, YEAH i just thought they say status. Quo
Oh wallace was status. QUO i, Thought i'm.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
SORRY i thought he was employed by The Minnesota timberwolves last.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Year fair, Enough what did you say?
Speaker 6 (16:52):
Said can't you just have to say sometimes you just
got to practice.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
It and that's why it's almost like if you if
he was choking and trying to do THE hotei lick on.
Yourself you pop yourself right in the back of the,
neck and you just SAY i was.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Wrong you guys can't see it right now because you're
driving in your. Car and you know, what here's What
i'm Gonna i'm going to help you guys. Out, Wow
i'm gonna just take a photo Of ryan's face right.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Now, no it's. Okay, no he's covering. Up he's covered.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Up, yes it's. Okay ryan speak to the. Public i'm.
Good what do you, mean, figure, FIGURE i feel.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Good i'm Actually i'm what more, Stop i'm more interested
in these, movies the ones THAT i Wanted Bruce brown to.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Be.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
That that was one we all agreed.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
On we all agreed. On Bruce brown was beat with.
You you don't get.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
To Claim bruce Brown.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
In, Said i'd love to Have Bruce brown. BACK i
said that weeks.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
AGO i didn't think he was gonna get, moved but
mostly BECAUSE i didn't think they would trade him for
pennies on the. Dollar but the thing is they were
able to get back a player that can start a small,
forward and that that right, there Because Kem johnson is
a starting caliber small. Forward AND i did not think
we're gonna be able to do that under the, circumstances
and for THAT.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I was.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Wrong, Hey, greg can you send that audio to? Me?
Please thank you for. THAT i, yes it's, okay, man
it's all. Right it. Happens it.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
HAPPENS i do want to get some more of your
thoughts on The Steelers dolphins trade when we do. That
on the other, side keep, recapping and obviously things are
happening now here that nuggets very busy here in the
second hour of free agency. Frenzy but you guys both
thought The dolphins won the trade with The steelers this.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
Morning SO i found very, interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Especially since The steelers they think that they are putting
together what is a run at a Super bowl With
Aaron rodgers in the final year of his playing.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Career but actually think you're right About Jalen.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
RAMSEY i don't think he's for.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Everyone and Makea fitzpatrick is fascinating because he just got
traded a few years ago From. Miami he's going back
To miami a different, circumstances different coaching, staff all those
kinds of. Things Johnny smith's thing is is that's a good.
Addition Arser smith's this is like his third third time
working With Johnny, smith so that was clearly a target.
(19:22):
THERE i don't Know Man's that's an interesting one Because,
miami though under the, radar might have ACTUALLY i guess
improved a little bit through this. Process everybody's thinking it's
the other way. Around pittsburgh is the one that's out
there spiking the. Football as though they put together a
championship roster right.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Now i'm not gonna agree that they. HAVE i, mean Adding,
ramsey they fill in their, mind is going to help
their defense passing, defense which was twenty fifth last, year
so they're thinking about Adding Aaron. Rodgers, still those, offense
they've got to score. Points so other team's gonna have
to get out of the balance, attack so they're gonna
have to pass the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
More so that's Where jalen Rams he comes.
Speaker 6 (20:00):
In but the idea is that they give a lot
of points Because ramsey is a double move.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Guy but here's a great thing about.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
It, THOUGH i, mean some guys who's to go out
it all the, Time Jayalen ramsey AND Dk maykehalp now
they're on the same.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Team how about. THAT i feel it's all been. ROBBED
i feel as a. FAN i feel.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Robbed you think you Think Jayalen, ramsey because ACTUALLY i
wonder If Justin simmons would be an interesting target there
for the for the safety position At.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Pittsburgh what do you? Think i'm honestly not.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
SURE i THINK i Think justin is still a really good.
Athlete can make a lot of. Plays it depends what
you're asking him to. Do are you asking him to
play middle of the field and just be an athlete
and play one free and you, know try to go help. Guy,
YEAH i think he can do. That are you asking
(20:51):
him to play down the box a? Lot and that's
Not that's really not his not his. Strength by the,
Way Kevon looney just signed with The. PELICANS i THOUGHT
i thought there was a chance that The nuggets might
have an interest in him as a backup as a
(21:14):
backup To. Jokic but two year deal for sixteen million
he goes to The. Pelicans.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Interesting all, Right we'll come. Back we'll keep you posted
ON nba free. Agency we'll continue to dissect that trade that.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Happened this morning as. Well Michael Porter.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Jr and a first round pick in twenty thirty two
For Cam johnson Small ford with The Brooklyn. Nets reading
that you wanted to make sure you read. It you
read it to. YOURSELF i.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Did your facial expression was similar to you reading a
message that your basement had just flooded and there were
six inches of. Water, honey when you come, home it was, like, oh,
tured like four shades of, white like you got to
be kidding.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Me, Golly i'm Still i'm still a little lost For
zil on this. One but Credit, warszoo you called your.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Shots Benjamin albright also said he, thought And i'm sure
he's gonna Be.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Oh he's gonna be all over.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You, yeah he's gonna be having some fun with that,
tonight which is. Great The, nuggets of, course we mentioned
they save seventeen million dollars in this, process so they'll
have some options and including as we found out moments after, that.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
They're bringing In Bruce brown has agreed to a one year.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Deal still don't have the deal For Bruce, brown but
we'll get that to you here in just a matter of.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Moments five, six six nine zeros.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Or Kawe cobsperer health text, line and we'll have some
more reaction to it. Tomorrow i'm sure there'll be some
more follow. UP i do think before we get back
to the trade from earlier to, DAY i do think
this is a sort of a message sending kind of.
Play like both players average pretty close to the same
points per. Game maybe you Like Cam johnson's game a
little bit. Better we talked about maybe he's a more
complete player Than Michael Porter. Junior but in the end
(23:08):
your treat you're swapping starting small forwards from these two.
Teams so that's what you're that's your esstinst do, it
and you're sending a first round, pick and you're doing
it in a way where you could save some money
in the process and maybe add to your. Depth so
in that, RESPECT i love the move because you get
a chance to add to the depth that you were desperately.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Needing but the overarching point of this.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Whole thing for me is that you are sending a
message to the, roster especially because this is a major
move to a championship, team that you're sending away kind
of a cornerstone, player at least the guy you thought
was gonna be a cornerstone.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
PLAYER i love the move as, well and the REASON
i love it because one and don't take this the
wrong way ANY mpja. Supporters but this is the best
thing for The nuggets based on pure the business of.
Basketball and then the addition to that was The Bruce brown.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
News this is WHY i love.
Speaker 6 (24:03):
IT i, mean you bring in two guys who are
going to be committed to playing on both ends of the.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Floor you already know Who Bruce brown.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Is he's familiar with the, team even Though Mike malone
is not coaching. It you, Know David alderman was here
When Bruce brown was here as, well so the familiarity
with the scheme and the, players it goes. Well And
i've been harping on this for the past two, seasons
being better, defensively AND i was a little upset When
Bruce brown left for The, pacers But i'm glad that he's.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Back and it's just kind of turning the.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
Pay change in the culture and Given David, alderman you,
know more players to just toss out. There because what
The nuggets currently have not the starting, unit the guys
coming off the, bench they really don't. Happen this is
the excellent opportunity For Kristen brown to as.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
Well it looks Like Bruce brown's deal is going to
be for Vet, men so AROUND i think that's around
two million If i'm looking it up right.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Now but he's all. Good he got paid by The,
Pacers he's all.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Good that's still a smoking deal if you can get it.
DONE i, mean the fact, is you're, right was?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
It what did he? Sign that was like a year
like forty five?
Speaker 1 (25:09):
Millions so a Vet min deal according TO i think
this Is Sam emick that just tweet this out a moment.
Ago so a Vet min deal For Bruce, Brown that's that's.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Incredible that's.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Money that's, uh that's good news for Nikolea. JOKIC i
think he And Bruce brown. Close and The Cam johnson,
THING i, think AND i got to be honest ABOUT
i haven't followed him as much since he Left phoenix
and went to The, nets BUT i mean that in
(25:43):
that championship series when he was With phoenix and The
sun's played The, BUCKS i Mean Cam, johnson you, know
was a good two way. PLAYER i MEAN i think of,
him and of course we got to see how he
plays In, denver BUT i think of him as a
guy that give you effort on, defense pretty good perimeter, score.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Has has a low blocks, game as.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Well SO i just, think, again is he the elite
shooter THAT mpj? Is probably, not but very few guys
in this league. Are BUT i think his his overall
game is much more well. Rounded AND i look at
this as a as a plus move for The.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
Nuggets completely.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
Agree so, far got to give high marks to the
unorthodox front, office.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
To The, brown the brand New wallace from The timberwolves
in another change The nuggets made in their front, office
and also To Ben tenzer who has been here for a.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
While, yes congratulations to internally promoted that's, right and externally
Promoted John.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Wallace, Yes EXECUTIVE vp Of Player, persondel that's. Good, yeah the,
triumvirate if you. Will, yes With Josh. Cronky, Imagine Josh
cronky had a little bit to, say so we talked about.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
That that was the one thing out of this whole
mess that we could agree on That Josh.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Cronki, uh he's a basketball. GUY i know you.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
People get frustrated with owners of teams and people that have,
money AND i get all, that but he's a basketball.
Guy he's got a good basketball since to, him played
At missouri and AND i think HE i think he
wants to put more of his stamp on this, franchise
AND i think the moves they've made so far are
are just, good solid.
Speaker 6 (27:34):
Moves, yeah this is the beginning, of you, know truly
turning that page away From Calvin booth and Coach malall
and giving To Kola jokich some, support so much need to,
support but also Given David, alloman you, know some guys
that he can go, to he can rely, on because last,
year even in you, know going seven games At, okay,
(27:55):
see you can tell like even with Coach malall not
having a lot of faith to go really deep in your.
Bench now this gives And nuggets an opportunity to do.
That and more, importantly the idea is to. Compete in
order to get to a playoffs Or Western conference final
or a title, game you have to have the ability to.
Compete so now we were talking earlier About Nicola jokic
(28:17):
and not wasting his.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Years this move right. Here now we still have to
wait to the sea.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Hout the season played out well based on the moves
that they made thus far and opens them up to
make more.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Moves i'm really liking and loving What i'm saying right.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Now, YEAH i am, TOO i am.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
TOO I my initial reaction WAS i wasn't so sure
THAT i liked the move so. Much but the fact
that you're able to save so much money in the
process and you can add to your, depth it's hard to.
Argue and now you're Getting Bruce brown on a vet mend.
Deal it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Strong pretty. Strong we'll see what they do. Next maybe
that's An arkansas. THING i don't.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
Know Maybe benjamin All, bright not that guy. Crowing he.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Guaranteed so now we're guaranteeing these.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
THINGS i did guarantee, it and you should know by
now IF i say the word guarantee on, something it's
it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
HAPPEN i need the. AUDIO i need the audio on that.
One we have the.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
Audio then if it's never, happened all.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
RIGHT i didn't guarantee. IT i SAID i would be
surprised if it didn't. Happen, yeah you're a little more.
MEASURED i tried to paint you into a corner on that.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
SUCCESSFULLY i didn't say it was working just and then
you went back at it.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Today at three. O'clock Now.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I'm just, hearing.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Oh, Yeah i'm pulling that audio.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Too and then it's like a bug on a.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Windshooper, actually in all reality, days you should you should
have at that time doubled.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Down and said you're you, Know, brian you're.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
RIGHT i did guarantee, it and then two hours later
you would have been really in good.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
SHAPE i think that's been in pretty good. Shape.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Anyway you actually said the three words that never can
out of your pie.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
HOLE i was. Wrong you yetded? Qualifiers and if you
just were not out of the, qualifiers is.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
It qualifying for me to SAY i will be surprised
if he's not.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Traded i'm just SAYING i tried to help. You.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
No, look you tried to add the qualifiers to, me
and that's WHEN i pushed.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Back wait a, MINUTE i bet.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
God Will lutz isn't out. There right down the, way
the goalposter moved all over the. PLACE i just SAY
i tried to put you in a better, spot and
the audience KNOWS i was. Wrong such a.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
Rarity such a.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Rarity by the, way congratulations To Brook, lopez who just
signed a two year contract with The clippers eighteen million.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Dollars what do you Think yiannis thinks about that? MOVE
i got to get the hell out of.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Here somebody could get come get, me, now come get
me this instant both. Eyes, yes you think we'll get
A yannis what happens For giannis Or lebron? NEWS i
mean those students who is team to be the biggest dominoes.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
THAT i don't Think lebron's going. Anywhere, OKAY i Think
lebron is in L. A i'm. Not i'm not sure About. Yannis,
YEAH i think we'll Get lebron news Before yannis.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
News, well since you're in the guarantee kind of, Mood,
ben what's gonna?
Speaker 2 (31:20):
HAPPEN i, Guarantee i'm NOT i don't.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
KNOW i guarantee That grant does have some audio here
for us to listen.
Speaker 10 (31:27):
To go, Ahead this Is ben's. Guarantee, Okay i'm an.
IDIOT i was, like, Wow, wow.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
Nailed.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It
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