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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Tyler Freeman with a fine running catch and the Rockies
win the finale against Houston. Final score Colorado seven, Houston six.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
How about the Rockies seventy six win over the Houston Astros. Today,
twenty Wednesdays, we are at twenty wins.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes they are, Yes they are, and they're on one
game heater, on a heater. I mean, listen, I'm any
time they win a game, I'm here for it.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It's good for me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Still only single digits that wins at home nine nine.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But you got the White Sox coming to town this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So I mean you look at you look at that
and say you get a sweet that series because the
White Sox suck.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Oh my god, that's I mean. I mean, I would listen.
I mean most teams would look at yeah, look at it.
That one what I would say, yep? What especially here
at how many games are the White Sox.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
White Sox are like twenty four wins, maybe off the
top of my melon.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Twenty eight, twenty eight win twenty eight and fifty eight,
twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And fifty eight.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
The Rockies now are twenty and sixty eight, sixty seven,
twenty and sixty seven.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Okay, I like the Rockies chances, I do too. Yeah,
I do too.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Whether they're you know, the White Socks are stingy though
they've only allowed three hundred and seventy eight runs, Whether
the Rockies have allowed five hundred and thirty threes.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, well that's that's a thing. Again, Let's get back
to the important point.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
White Sox are awful, and so any team in Major
League Baseball, including the Rockies, should look at the playing
the White Sox at home, should look at this and say, hey.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
We got to get right this weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, you're coming to our house. Yeah, yes, there's fireworks.
Plus there's fireworks right your big July fourth cookout?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Guy, what do you what do you do a fourth Yeah,
I'm just hanging with the family and kind of enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm gonna hang with my in laws, which would be
a thing.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So you guys have sort of reconciled a bit, I
mean a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We're fine, We're good, We're good, We're great, we're great, good,
we're making salmon.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I mean, we celebrate the birth of the country, and
this really can sort of be like a rebirth of
that relationship. So I'm happy for you. No, I am
rebirth so to speak.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Y do I need to bring up plants or something like?
That's up to you.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I mean, it depends on how badly you've you've damaged
the relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, knowing me, I probably did say something and i'd
get you know, maybe a tree just show up, right,
like a peach tree or something like.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Hey, I don't know if you like peaches, but you
guys got you a peach tree.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, I'm just gonna take it to the backyard. Sorry, diggings. Yeah,
you know you got to. Hey, you gotta do what
you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You know, one has to stay in the good graces
of one's in laws.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, it's wise.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And if the relationship has been damaged in the past,
and then I'll let this go, then one has to
Whether it's a potted plant or a big fricking tree,
you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I just wish you would have told me this like
years ago. I'm just saying that it would go this
way for you.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It just, you know, the.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Wise words you just said, you should stay in the
good graces your in laws.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I just wish you would have said so.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
This has happened multiple times, right or am I to
deduct that from your comments.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I just you you give good advice, and this would
be the advice that would have, you know, helped me avoid.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Just always remember they love her a lot more than
they love you.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
No doubt about that, doubt about that. All right, well,
good stuff there for the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
They kick off series against the White Sox tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Of course we'll covers and that.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
By the way, speaking of July fourth, tomorrow, Hopevery's going
to have a safe and happy holiday. Grant the Taking
It for Granted podcast, It's going to be airing tomorrow
from nine am to noon and three pm to five
thirty with Susie Wrigen, Jerry Shemmel and Jack Corgan.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Nice. So there you go, Grant, very nice.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So make sure you check that out, all right, five
six six nine zeros okay with Comma spir Hill text Lin.
If you want to interact with the show, we have
some really interesting stuff to get to over the next
hour and twenty minutes. Yonis valenceunis who I guess theoretically
is supposed to be a Denver nugget. On Sunday, when
everything can be finalized, all trades and the acquisitions We've been,
(04:20):
of course, celebrating all week long the Nuggets moves in
free agency. And if y'all remember a couple of days
ago when the Nuggets who was announced, The Nuggets traded
Dario Sarich to the Sacramento Kings in exchange got center
Yonis Valancunis.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
We both loved that move. Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, we find out today right before the show starting,
that he's got interest or he is interested in enjoying
a euro League team in Greece. And this is a
sticky situation in many ways.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
The Nuggets hold his rights. Now, I'm just gonna lay
this out and then we can sort of talk about it.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The Nuggets hold his rights assuming everything goes through on Sunday,
we can't. I mean, I guess theoretically he just retire,
but that's probably not gonna happen because he leave ten
million on the.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Table that like most people don't do that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He might be searching for a buyout if he really
wants to do this, because it's apparently a three year,
thirteen million dollar offer, which is also kind of weird
because he's like one year ten million from the Nuggets
or three years for thirteen doesn't make a lot of
sense to me.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Why you in math's not my thing. Maybe you can
explain that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But as we say here right now, all that's being
reported is he has interest, that euro League team has
interested in him, and until the trade goes through, that's
where we stand.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I I don't know about Valanciunas's family situation. A.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Is he married? B is his wife Greek? See?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Were his kids born in Athens? We know he's from Lithuania. Yeah,
he's right, I know he's Greek. Yeah, I would say
that the chances I mean, I don't. I don't have
a feel for this, to be honest about it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I find it hard to believe that.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The team in Greece would be willing to buy him
out of his deal now, unless unless he has some
reason we don't know of going on that he does
not want to play for the Nuggets, or live in Denver,
or play on this team with this group of players
that that I just don't know. But I would think
(06:34):
I'd wage your money. I would think that you know,
this will get worked out, and if I had to bet,
I would bet he plays here in Denver.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I would think so too.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Now he does have a team option there is a
team option on the other side of this season. So
if the Nuggets, let's say, regardless of what happens this year,
want to do him a solid because he really wants
to go play in Greece, right like that that's his
his dream, well, then they could decline the team option
and let him go next year. But there's there's really
no incentive here for the Nuggets to do something this year.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They really need him.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
No, they do, and it's I mean, he to me,
represents the best backup center.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Plumbley maybe, but he's he's.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So much better offensively than Plumbing. Grumbley was really good rebounder,
excellent you know, rim protector, good athlete, but but void
of any significant offensive skill, with the exception of the
you know, the pick and roll, lob and dunk and
the ball. So yeah, I mean, I I don't know,
(07:37):
it bears watching because it was interesting that it that
it came up when I when I saw it, I
was like, wow, this is a tab bit strange, right,
But but valentinn is to me, I mean, you talk
about being a backup center. There also, I think would
be the opportunity to play them both. You think of
what Oklahoma City had right with the Bigs with Homegrin
(07:59):
and Heartenstein this year well when both of them played,
and they did and started for most of the year.
It I mean, it causes some issues, right and Yokic,
I mean, Yokic can operate when we've seen that from
anywhere on the court, whether he's in the blocks, whether
he'said the free throw line extended.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And valanceutis is.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I mean, he is a way above average post player.
So I just think it gives the Nuggets so many
different possibilities of how they how they can attack people.
But again, you know, let's hope that this all works
out and he comes to Denver.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And so it feels like one of those kind of
weird stories where I think by Monday, where I know
officially that it's really nothing. But as we sit here
today until it's finalized, now one thing we do know
for certain, Okay, So everything else is kind of up
in the air at the moment. At least, it feels
like the trade will go through because the Kings need
(09:01):
the expiring contract of Dario Sarich. They need it, so
they've already allocated that that that's that's gonna happen. So
anybody asking or wondering if Darosarich is going to stay
like it voids the trade, that's not gonna If the
trade's going to go through. Now it becomes all right,
what do the Nuggets do with Yonas valentiunis? And I
guess the only sticking point that ultimately could happen here
(09:25):
is that Yonas is difficult about it, as if he says,
I really am done in the NBA. I want to,
I want to move my family to Greece. I want
to I want to start the next chapter of my life.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I don't want to be here in Denver. That could
be the only sort of sticking point with this. And
again that'd be like, Okay, well what he wants to
do here, we're not going to. I mean, they can
cut him. I guess there's a scenario. Ryan Blackburn wrote
out the three scenarios uh in an article just a
little Bit of Go. He says, one Valentini stays in
Denver for the season, earns ten point three million, the
(10:01):
Nuggets a client's team option.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's number one.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Number two, Valentutis and the Nuggets agreed to a buy out,
forcing Valentis to give back some or all if his
ten point three owed for this season, or finally, the
Nuggets waive Valentnis, which would force the Nuggets to pay
him all of his ten point three, or for him
not to play in Denver.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So they're not gonna the second one doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, and the second one doesn't really make any sense either.
So it feels like, really, there's only one option like that,
that's all.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't understand that the second one that they they
would buy out and force him to give back them
he hadn't earned the money, right.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, remember it's all guaranteed because its NBA, So these
NBA contracts, no.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But the Nuggets, the Nuggets don't owe him, yeah a
penny until he actually played.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm exactly sure how that was stack up either. You're right,
But those are the options that he laid out.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean, I mean, stom thinking about this if well,
now that I just sort of formulated that in my head,
I was going to say, if a player had a
guaranteed contract, well, I guess he would be paid if
something medically came up that would prevent the player from
being able to play this year, he never played a
game in Denver. Would would then I could still be
(11:11):
on the hook for that money.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I mean, yeah, I would think.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I mean it's guaranteed contracts, right, I mean, that's this
is why I told you that I love the NFL
because they we we can work away around all these
things because most of us not guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
You can find ways around it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But anyways, by the way, seven one nine four seven, Oh,
I think inappropriate text, July fourth is the perfect holiday
for a comedy like wiring to keep an eye on
the free world.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I'm not sure who said that. Well, Dave, is it
a perfect text a comedy? Well, no, I don't think
you are there. Thank you you have.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think you have communist leanings, but I don't I
don't think. I don't think you're a full fledged commedist. Yeah, comedy.
I say that with a little bit of affection. You know,
your in laws don't like you, and but you are
you know, I meyer about you. You are taking the
initiative to work yourself back into the good graces of
(12:09):
your in laws, which.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I already texted my wife asking if if my in
laws like peach.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Trees, be good. You know very well what she says.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, knowing my luck, my uh my mother
in law would be allergic to peaches.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
No, like, yeah, you'd plant the tree in the tree
then like in three days would fall out of the
ground into the roof and punch a hole in your
in laws roof.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah it's myself.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, no, listen, the copy thing is actually Ben's fault.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So I have never And you're saying leaning.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's that's well interesting, you know, but I but that
that's been that's I'm a blame Van Albright, who's going
to be on at six o'clock tonight with Broncos Country tonight,
because I said and again appropriate.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Now we're talking Aboutjuly forthcoming. Yes, that I didn't. I
thought Topkin was overrated.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I thought it was like it did not age well,
right Like when I was a seven or eight years
old when it came out, I was like, ah, this
is a great movie.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Now as an adult, I watched that movie, and I say,
I can I believe people thought it was a good movie.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So that's where people are like, oh, well, you're a
communist because you didn't like top Gun. Yeah, so appropriately
we're having this conversation on the day before first of.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Our Maybe let's sort of incorporate two dilemmas for you.
Maybe maybe what you do is to make sure that
when you go to your in law's house with the
palm tree or whatever kind of peach tree, whatever, imagine,
maybe you suggest that the entire group of people there
watch Top Gun.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You know what I mean. They're musicians. I don't think
they they don't know about top Gun. I don't think
they've seen top Gun. You're like, kid, laws have never
seen top Gun. Listen.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm not going to speak for that. I'll text him
here in a little bit. I ask him that'd be so funny. Hey,
guys have over top Gun, Bad.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Gun or the other.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's America. We're celebrating. We're celebrating today. No, there's they are. Yeah,
they're they're musicians and a lot of the stuff, like
whenever I want to watch I go over there for
Thanksgiving and I have to make sure, Hey can I
put football on now?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And that my sad. So they don't even watch football.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They'll watch it, but it's kind of like just in
the background. Yeah, and then and they like the Broncos.
They like the Nuggets.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, but it's kind.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Of more of like because you're you're involved, Yes, is
that what it is? Sort of showing their support to you.
I say this affectionately marrying their daughter. I think that
they do it just so they have something to talk
to me about.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Which I have other interests. I used to be a
musician too. But I sit down at the table and
they're like, boys, you know, you're not a sports guy either.
You were, you were a musician. I was. I was
more a musician than a sports guy. When I now
look at you, well and now you're the host of
a sports suck show. Yeah, it's it's weird.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Sometimes I got a chance, maybe later in my career
where I could uh maybe pop down on the FM
side and like Rick, maybe I could be an FM
music jock.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
If you want to form the Dave Logan project.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Like music if you no, No, I don't have any
aspirations nor talent enough to do that. I'm just talking
about like, as we used to say, spinning the hits
and you.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Did the hand most shake. Nobody got to see that much.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, but you listen, we're hanging out of the studio
sometimes and you're you're doing the air drums and rhythm.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, I have plenty of rhythm for a white guy.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I mean, I mean absolutely, I'm a world class air drummer.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I agree with Dave. Ryan is definitely a communist. I
suspect these are like all different people. I suspected Ryan
being a communist for years.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
What's going on? Here we go, Ben, where we go?
Shaking my fists?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But but really top Gun is awful five six six nights.
There's a kay common spurreial text s line. So we'll
come back here at the top of the hour. A
couple of things I want to run by you. First
of all, on the Nuggets, I want to get back
into that conversation a little bit because, as we have
noted before, they were the I don't know the fewest
fewest three point attempt team, and they kind of have
(16:09):
been in the Michael Malone era. But now we're in
a new regime and with the additions that they made,
start to wonder if that's going to change the amount
of three point.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Six that they have.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So I want to ask you about that. Also, the
Broncos one of the best teams of giving up sacks
last year. I want to say, if we think they
can be even better next year. So we had a
lot of cool stuff to get to over the next
hour or so. Again five six six niney zero even
if you want to take shot. Yeah here cope. Comrade
Edwards patches things up with his in laws.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I appreciate you, I love all of you, and happy
forth to everybody. We're off early here on a Thursday,
right back on Kawa
Tyler Freeman with a fine running catch and the Rockies
win the finale against Houston. Final score Colorado seven, Houston six.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
How about the Rockies seventy six win over the Houston Astros. Today,
twenty Wednesdays, we are at twenty wins.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yes they are, Yes they are, and they're on one
game heater, on a heater. I mean, listen, I'm any
time they win a game, I'm here for it.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
It's good for me.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Still only single digits that wins at home nine nine.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
But you got the White Sox coming to town this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
So I mean you look at you look at that
and say you get a sweet that series because the
White Sox suck.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Oh my god, that's I mean. I mean, I would listen.
I mean most teams would look at yeah, look at it.
That one what I would say, yep? What especially here
at how many games are the White Sox.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
White Sox are like twenty four wins, maybe off the
top of my melon.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Twenty eight, twenty eight win twenty eight and fifty eight,
twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
And fifty eight.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
The Rockies now are twenty and sixty eight, sixty seven,
twenty and sixty seven.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
Okay, I like the Rockies chances, I do too. Yeah,
I do too.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Whether they're you know, the White Socks are stingy though
they've only allowed three hundred and seventy eight runs, Whether
the Rockies have allowed five hundred and thirty threes.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, well that's that's a thing. Again, Let's get back
to the important point.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
White Sox are awful, and so any team in Major
League Baseball, including the Rockies, should look at the playing
the White Sox at home, should look at this and say, hey.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
We got to get right this weekend.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, you're coming to our house. Yeah, yes, there's fireworks.
Plus there's fireworks right your big July fourth cookout?
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Guy, what do you what do you do a fourth Yeah,
I'm just hanging with the family and kind of enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm gonna hang with my in laws, which would be
a thing.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
So you guys have sort of reconciled a bit, I
mean a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
We're fine, We're good, We're good, We're great, we're great, good,
we're making salmon.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
I mean, we celebrate the birth of the country, and
this really can sort of be like a rebirth of
that relationship. So I'm happy for you. No, I am
rebirth so to speak.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Y do I need to bring up plants or something like?
That's up to you.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
I mean, it depends on how badly you've you've damaged
the relationship.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Well, knowing me, I probably did say something and i'd
get you know, maybe a tree just show up, right,
like a peach tree or something like.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Hey, I don't know if you like peaches, but you
guys got you a peach tree.
Speaker 4 (02:45):
Yeah, I'm just gonna take it to the backyard. Sorry, diggings. Yeah,
you know you got to. Hey, you gotta do what
you gotta do.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
You know, one has to stay in the good graces
of one's in laws.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
You know, it's wise.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And if the relationship has been damaged in the past,
and then I'll let this go, then one has to
Whether it's a potted plant or a big fricking tree,
you gotta do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I just wish you would have told me this like
years ago. I'm just saying that it would go this
way for you.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It just, you know, the.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Wise words you just said, you should stay in the
good graces your in laws.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
I just wish you would have said so.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
This has happened multiple times, right or am I to
deduct that from your comments.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
I just you you give good advice, and this would
be the advice that would have, you know, helped me avoid.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Just always remember they love her a lot more than
they love you.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
No doubt about that, doubt about that. All right, well,
good stuff there for the Rockies.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
They kick off series against the White Sox tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Of course we'll covers and that.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
By the way, speaking of July fourth, tomorrow, Hopevery's going
to have a safe and happy holiday. Grant the Taking
It for Granted podcast, It's going to be airing tomorrow
from nine am to noon and three pm to five
thirty with Susie Wrigen, Jerry Shemmel and Jack Corgan.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Nice. So there you go, Grant, very nice.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
So make sure you check that out, all right, five
six six nine zeros okay with Comma spir Hill text Lin.
If you want to interact with the show, we have
some really interesting stuff to get to over the next
hour and twenty minutes. Yonis valenceunis who I guess theoretically
is supposed to be a Denver nugget. On Sunday, when
everything can be finalized, all trades and the acquisitions We've been,
(04:20):
of course, celebrating all week long the Nuggets moves in
free agency. And if y'all remember a couple of days
ago when the Nuggets who was announced, The Nuggets traded
Dario Sarich to the Sacramento Kings in exchange got center
Yonis Valancunis.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
We both loved that move. Yep.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, we find out today right before the show starting,
that he's got interest or he is interested in enjoying
a euro League team in Greece. And this is a
sticky situation in many ways.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
The Nuggets hold his rights. Now, I'm just gonna lay
this out and then we can sort of talk about it.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The Nuggets hold his rights assuming everything goes through on Sunday,
we can't. I mean, I guess theoretically he just retire,
but that's probably not gonna happen because he leave ten
million on the.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Table that like most people don't do that.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
He might be searching for a buyout if he really
wants to do this, because it's apparently a three year,
thirteen million dollar offer, which is also kind of weird
because he's like one year ten million from the Nuggets
or three years for thirteen doesn't make a lot of
sense to me.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Why you in math's not my thing. Maybe you can
explain that.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
But as we say here right now, all that's being
reported is he has interest, that euro League team has
interested in him, and until the trade goes through, that's
where we stand.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah, I I don't know about Valanciunas's family situation. A.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Is he married? B is his wife Greek? See?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Were his kids born in Athens? We know he's from Lithuania. Yeah,
he's right, I know he's Greek. Yeah, I would say
that the chances I mean, I don't. I don't have
a feel for this, to be honest about it.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
I find it hard to believe that.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
The team in Greece would be willing to buy him
out of his deal now, unless unless he has some
reason we don't know of going on that he does
not want to play for the Nuggets, or live in Denver,
or play on this team with this group of players
that that I just don't know. But I would think
(06:34):
I'd wage your money. I would think that you know,
this will get worked out, and if I had to bet,
I would bet he plays here in Denver.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I would think so too.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Now he does have a team option there is a
team option on the other side of this season. So
if the Nuggets, let's say, regardless of what happens this year,
want to do him a solid because he really wants
to go play in Greece, right like that that's his
his dream, well, then they could decline the team option
and let him go next year. But there's there's really
no incentive here for the Nuggets to do something this year.
Speaker 4 (07:04):
They really need him.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
No, they do, and it's I mean, he to me,
represents the best backup center.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Plumbley maybe, but he's he's.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
So much better offensively than Plumbing. Grumbley was really good rebounder,
excellent you know, rim protector, good athlete, but but void
of any significant offensive skill, with the exception of the
you know, the pick and roll, lob and dunk and
the ball. So yeah, I mean, I I don't know,
(07:37):
it bears watching because it was interesting that it that
it came up when I when I saw it, I
was like, wow, this is a tab bit strange, right,
But but valentinn is to me, I mean, you talk
about being a backup center. There also, I think would
be the opportunity to play them both. You think of
what Oklahoma City had right with the Bigs with Homegrin
(07:59):
and Heartenstein this year well when both of them played,
and they did and started for most of the year.
It I mean, it causes some issues, right and Yokic,
I mean, Yokic can operate when we've seen that from
anywhere on the court, whether he's in the blocks, whether
he'said the free throw line extended.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
And valanceutis is.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I mean, he is a way above average post player.
So I just think it gives the Nuggets so many
different possibilities of how they how they can attack people.
But again, you know, let's hope that this all works
out and he comes to Denver.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
That's what it is.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And so it feels like one of those kind of
weird stories where I think by Monday, where I know
officially that it's really nothing. But as we sit here
today until it's finalized, now one thing we do know
for certain, Okay, So everything else is kind of up
in the air at the moment. At least, it feels
like the trade will go through because the Kings need
(09:01):
the expiring contract of Dario Sarich. They need it, so
they've already allocated that that that's that's gonna happen. So
anybody asking or wondering if Darosarich is going to stay
like it voids the trade, that's not gonna If the
trade's going to go through. Now it becomes all right,
what do the Nuggets do with Yonas valentiunis? And I
guess the only sticking point that ultimately could happen here
(09:25):
is that Yonas is difficult about it, as if he says,
I really am done in the NBA. I want to,
I want to move my family to Greece. I want
to I want to start the next chapter of my life.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I don't.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
I don't want to be here in Denver. That could
be the only sort of sticking point with this. And
again that'd be like, Okay, well what he wants to
do here, we're not going to. I mean, they can
cut him. I guess there's a scenario. Ryan Blackburn wrote
out the three scenarios uh in an article just a
little Bit of Go. He says, one Valentini stays in
Denver for the season, earns ten point three million, the
(10:01):
Nuggets a client's team option.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
That's number one.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Number two, Valentutis and the Nuggets agreed to a buy out,
forcing Valentis to give back some or all if his
ten point three owed for this season, or finally, the
Nuggets waive Valentnis, which would force the Nuggets to pay
him all of his ten point three, or for him
not to play in Denver.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
So they're not gonna the second one doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, and the second one doesn't really make any sense either.
So it feels like, really, there's only one option like that,
that's all.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I don't understand that the second one that they they
would buy out and force him to give back them
he hadn't earned the money, right.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, remember it's all guaranteed because its NBA, So these
NBA contracts, no.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
But the Nuggets, the Nuggets don't owe him, yeah a
penny until he actually played.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I'm exactly sure how that was stack up either. You're right,
But those are the options that he laid out.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I mean, I mean, stom thinking about this if well,
now that I just sort of formulated that in my head,
I was going to say, if a player had a
guaranteed contract, well, I guess he would be paid if
something medically came up that would prevent the player from
being able to play this year, he never played a
game in Denver. Would would then I could still be
(11:11):
on the hook for that money.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
I mean, yeah, I would think.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
I mean it's guaranteed contracts, right, I mean, that's this
is why I told you that I love the NFL
because they we we can work away around all these
things because most of us not guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (11:25):
You can find ways around it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
But anyways, by the way, seven one nine four seven, Oh,
I think inappropriate text, July fourth is the perfect holiday
for a comedy like wiring to keep an eye on
the free world.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I'm not sure who said that. Well, Dave, is it
a perfect text a comedy? Well, no, I don't think
you are there. Thank you you have.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
I think you have communist leanings, but I don't I
don't think. I don't think you're a full fledged commedist. Yeah, comedy.
I say that with a little bit of affection. You know,
your in laws don't like you, and but you are
you know, I meyer about you. You are taking the
initiative to work yourself back into the good graces of
(12:09):
your in laws, which.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
I already texted my wife asking if if my in
laws like peach.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Trees, be good. You know very well what she says.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, knowing my luck, my uh my mother
in law would be allergic to peaches.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
No, like, yeah, you'd plant the tree in the tree
then like in three days would fall out of the
ground into the roof and punch a hole in your
in laws roof.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah it's myself.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, no, listen, the copy thing is actually Ben's fault.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
So I have never And you're saying leaning.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That's that's well interesting, you know, but I but that
that's been that's I'm a blame Van Albright, who's going
to be on at six o'clock tonight with Broncos Country tonight,
because I said and again appropriate.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Now we're talking Aboutjuly forthcoming. Yes, that I didn't. I
thought Topkin was overrated.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
I thought it was like it did not age well,
right Like when I was a seven or eight years
old when it came out, I was like, ah, this
is a great movie.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Now as an adult, I watched that movie, and I say,
I can I believe people thought it was a good movie.
It's not.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
So that's where people are like, oh, well, you're a
communist because you didn't like top Gun. Yeah, so appropriately
we're having this conversation on the day before first of.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Our Maybe let's sort of incorporate two dilemmas for you.
Maybe maybe what you do is to make sure that
when you go to your in law's house with the
palm tree or whatever kind of peach tree, whatever, imagine,
maybe you suggest that the entire group of people there
watch Top Gun.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
You know what I mean. They're musicians. I don't think
they they don't know about top Gun. I don't think
they've seen top Gun. You're like, kid, laws have never
seen top Gun. Listen.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I'm not going to speak for that. I'll text him
here in a little bit. I ask him that'd be so funny. Hey,
guys have over top Gun, Bad.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Gun or the other.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's America. We're celebrating. We're celebrating today. No, there's they are. Yeah,
they're they're musicians and a lot of the stuff, like
whenever I want to watch I go over there for
Thanksgiving and I have to make sure, Hey can I
put football on now?
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And that my sad. So they don't even watch football.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
They'll watch it, but it's kind of like just in
the background. Yeah, and then and they like the Broncos.
They like the Nuggets.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah, but it's kind.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Of more of like because you're you're involved, Yes, is
that what it is? Sort of showing their support to you.
I say this affectionately marrying their daughter. I think that
they do it just so they have something to talk
to me about.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Which I have other interests. I used to be a
musician too. But I sit down at the table and
they're like, boys, you know, you're not a sports guy either.
You were, you were a musician. I was. I was
more a musician than a sports guy. When I now
look at you, well and now you're the host of
a sports suck show. Yeah, it's it's weird.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Sometimes I got a chance, maybe later in my career
where I could uh maybe pop down on the FM
side and like Rick, maybe I could be an FM
music jock.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
If you want to form the Dave Logan project.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Like music if you no, No, I don't have any
aspirations nor talent enough to do that. I'm just talking
about like, as we used to say, spinning the hits
and you.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Did the hand most shake. Nobody got to see that much.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, but you listen, we're hanging out of the studio
sometimes and you're you're doing the air drums and rhythm.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Yeah, I have plenty of rhythm for a white guy.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I mean, I mean absolutely, I'm a world class air drummer.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
I agree with Dave. Ryan is definitely a communist. I
suspect these are like all different people. I suspected Ryan
being a communist for years.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
What's going on? Here we go, Ben, where we go?
Shaking my fists?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But but really top Gun is awful five six six nights.
There's a kay common spurreial text s line. So we'll
come back here at the top of the hour. A
couple of things I want to run by you. First
of all, on the Nuggets, I want to get back
into that conversation a little bit because, as we have
noted before, they were the I don't know the fewest
fewest three point attempt team, and they kind of have
(16:09):
been in the Michael Malone era. But now we're in
a new regime and with the additions that they made,
start to wonder if that's going to change the amount
of three point.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
Six that they have.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
So I want to ask you about that. Also, the
Broncos one of the best teams of giving up sacks
last year. I want to say, if we think they
can be even better next year. So we had a
lot of cool stuff to get to over the next
hour or so. Again five six six niney zero even
if you want to take shot. Yeah here cope. Comrade
Edwards patches things up with his in laws.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, that's uh.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
I appreciate you, I love all of you, and happy
forth to everybody. We're off early here on a Thursday,
right back on Kawa
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