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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Happy Wednesday, and of course that is the voice of
Rick Lewis, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards and.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Legend.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Yeah, some things you never lived down. That's one of them.
If I had to wear the die, probably doing good work.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ran Well. I think it's part of that.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You said it with your chest like you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Just you know what.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I was proud at the moment when that came out
of my mouth, and then I realized that may be
a big mistake.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's good to see you, my friend. Yeah, Hi, guys's
good to be back with.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You, Dave. Good to see you as well. Good to
see both of you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We have Jake Plummer. You got a thing comer, but
Jake Plumber, don't you. We have Jake Plumber joined us
a three thound thing.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, with Jake Plumber tomorrow down in Colorado Springs. We're
doing a benefit for the YMCA down there, a pickleball
thing and Jake's a big pickleball guy. Really, I've never
played it, Dave. I don't think you probably played it,
have you?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh? Of course?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Uh huh, okay, no, But anyway, it's it's for the kids,
going to be like one hundred and fifty kids down
there and Nick Ferguson is a part of this deal
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Wow are you actually playing or what do you do? No,
I'm going to be the host.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
M see there's a Q and a oh nice type
thing about pickleball and then Jake. You know you basically
talk to Jake in front.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Of the kids.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Very cool. Well we'll ask Jake a little bit more
about it coming up at three thirty. But that is
cool man. You got any gigs coming up too?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I have a gig coming up July nineteenth, that's a
week from Saturday. I'll be at the Wild Goose Saloon again,
which is really good right down the street from me.
Really come down, I'll get your tickets. A really really
cool music venue will be playing there that Saturday night.
Dors at seven show Time to Day, dave On cow Bell,
dave On cow Bell.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I got to get him to coos congos.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I don't know, Well that makes sense with the air drum, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, And I know you can do that because I've
seen you play an air drum, world class rhythm.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I've seen it for a white dude. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I used to own a set of congos and bongos.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Actually they're congas. Congas not congos. Well there congos for me.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You because you you were trained in afrit Yes, basically yes,
so cong goes right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, so because we used to do open mic nights
up before Collins and congas well, I would bring them
for somebody else to play while I play guitar, and
so good be good accompany as Yeah. Anyways, you guys,
you realize we are a month out from the first
preseason game for the Broncos, and I know you're excited about.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It, August ninth in Santa Clara.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yep, it'll be a lot of fun. And then we're
about two weeks out from from training camp as well.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So Broncos.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
By the way, we'll we'll go out there and have
my voice is a little compromise today, So I'm gonna
I'm gonna basically I'll email you guys any comments that
I might have for the next ninety minutes. No, but
the Broncos are going to go out and actually work
against the Niners.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The game is Saturday.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The Broncos will leave, I believe, I think it's Wednesday
and go out and get practice. Are we going with
the team or I'm not? You are okay, I'll be
back here getting some much needed practice right in with
high school kids, and then we'll catch up with you
(03:17):
guys in Santa Clair. When's your first game? Is it
Labor Day weekend for high school? For high school? No,
it's the weekend before. Oh so it's August twenty third, maybe,
and that's in Florida, I believe. No, you believe wrong,
Labor Day weekends in Florida. Okay, so this is a
home game to open that would be wrong again. There'll
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be a road game at Regis right.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm trying to keep going with your schedule, day schedule.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Okay, I'm going to walk down the Cherry Creek High
School website every now and then I'm gonna I'm going
to go to your practice Wednesday. We did talk about this,
and I'm bringing my six year old grandson to watch
the big boys practice. We'll put him in, okay, you
know what he would go in. Yeah, this kid's got
so much confidence. He's really excited about We'll take care
of that. Yeah, he's really excited.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I told him.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And of course he knows. He's like a little baller.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
He's a little baller and he's got a ton of confidence.
And I said we're gonna go to I watched practice
with with Dave Logan, you know Dave. Yeah, and he said, oh,
I'm gonna be on the field. And he said, well,
you'll be on the field. Will be careful, We'll be Careah.
He's excited.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Good.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, we got a lot to get to over the
next hour and a half. We got to Rockies baseball
coming up again. I, by the way, was as wrong
as I could possibly be.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You were right in the sixth inning. Yes, it was scoreless.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
There's a moment I thought about texting you, no kid
sixth inning watching the game, and I'm like, mankle Freedlan's
dealing again. He's got He's on the presipice of another
quality start.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It was like a picture's duel. It was zero zero.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean, I thought they're doing everything they need to
do except for actually score runs, need the office to
do something. And then the damn just broke wide open,
including a Trevor Story run home.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
That kind of sealed the deal there, but uh, you know,
so you look at the end. I was talking to
my mom this morning because I've talked to you and
you told me I need to talk to my parents more.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, well, I said, your dad, your mom, You and
your mom have a good relationship.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I mean I would anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Anyways, she was like, boy, a tough night for the Rockies,
tended to and I was like, well the hold on, mom,
you're you're missing the context here. The Rockies were in
this thing. And she's like, what's the record and I
was like.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, it's fine. She could she could
do this show, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
She's a big Rockies fan, so she watches and listens.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I don't know if she is.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
See, that's the funny thing.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I have people in my life and I told this
today a couple days ago when we were talking about
visiting my in laws. I have people in my life
that pay just sort of a cursory knowledge attention to
sports so.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That they have things to talk to me about. Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So then they come back and like, hey, how about
them Rockies? So they me up with that ten to two.
Well it's a tough loss. I'm like, yeah, well, you know,
the season has.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Been that Red Sox pitcher was dealing that dude Bella.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You don't see many complete games in Major League Baseball anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Got two on them though.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, he's he's a good one.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, the guy you picked the Rocks to win, pick
the Rockies to.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Win last night, it was it's abound to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's gonna just you know what I say, keep picking,
just keep picking, just keep picking them.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I got asked a question today, didn't have a very
good answer for. So I'll throw this out there for you,
two guys. So the Rockies are now twenty one and
seventy one. The question came from one of those people
like you have in your life, sort of a casual
baseball fan that knows it's been a really tough year
for the Rockies. And I'm not even sure he knows
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exactly how many games in a season, but he knows
they've played close to one hundred and they haven't done well.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He said.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
At what point, if ever, there's a Major League Baseball team?
He said, does a major does a Major League Baseball
team ever get to the point where they can they
just say, you know, we're just going to mail it in.
I said, I honestly, I don't know what would that
even look like.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I'm trying to think of last night, but I mean, like,
because baseball is baseball, right, and That's why we like
the All Star Game so much generally.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Because I'll tell you what it looked like from an
offensive standpoint, not really grinding in an at bat, being
too casual in your approach as a hitter. You just
you know you're you're gonna swing a couple of times.
You're not, You're not really grinding and making that pitchure work,
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swinging at bad pitches. I mean that to me would
be the first tell from an offensive standpoint, defensively, you know,
not hustling.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I don't know. I haven't now listen, I have.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Watched fewer full games this year of Rockies baseball than
at any time since their first year, which was nineteen
ninety three on TV. I've watched them, but just on
a religiously regular basis, so I can't say that I've
seen too much of that. I thought they were a
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little casual last night at the plate from time to time.
Interesting day, because this is the most Rockies Baseball I've
watched in years, and I hate to say it, but
it's a fascination with watching probably the worst season in
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modern baseball history. I hate to say that, but I
had completely lost interest in the Rockies for the last
I don't know how many years this year I'm watching. Well,
you're not really a sports guy. Really a sports guy,
that's what they tell me. Who tells you that? Oh,
just somebody telling you? Okay, yeah, No. I used to
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be a huge baseball I'm huge, and that was my
actually my favorite sport to watch, I think, as a
kid all the way up into my twenties, and I
went to tons of baseball games. But this is this
is fascinating to me now because you just don't see
this ever happen. And I've been watching and I think
I can say this, and I hate to say it
(09:30):
on the Rockies flagship, but this is the worst baseball
team I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Well the record reflects that, and I feel.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Like they give up it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Generally speaking, I think baseball teams will give up about
All Star Break when they're out of it. You know,
they make a lot of money. Does they look like
it's all guaranteed? I mean, what is what does it
look like?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's a tough question because baseball is not a high
energy sport. Baseball is a low energy That's what I mean.
But when you say I feel like they give up
at about the All Star break. So what And I'm
being serious here because I hadn't thought about it until
my friend posed the question, what would that look like?
How would you be able to determine if you're I
(10:12):
think we're all baseball fans, if that type mentality had
overtaken the clubhouse. And I'm not suggesting it has, I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Know, But what would it look like? They got a.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Little I thought they had a little more energy when
they got rid of Bud Black with this new interim manager,
they did look I think they've looked better really since,
but I think that's faded at this point. And basically,
it's a total lack of talent on that team. They
just don't have enough good players. And I'm watching I
don't even know who these guys are. Most of them.
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You know, Mark haz yeah, Sentinela, Yeah, he's pitching tonight.
But most of these guys, I'm like, who are these guys?
And I think the lack of talent is startling when
you watch this team.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well, I think that to answer your question, Dave, I
think that would be where i'd lean is is And again,
it's not even guaranteeing that you would lose, but you
would in a lot of ways organizationally, try to say
bring up players that that maybe you're just going to
give some opportunity. Maybe they're a little early in their
abilities to play at the major league level. I don't know,
(11:20):
I mean, because that that would be the way, like
you're just bringing up prospects, You're just shoving prospects out
there and saying, hey, you know, whatever happens, I don't know,
you know, but they really haven't.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
They haven't done that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
They haven't done that. But that would be the way
not to tank so much, but also to put yourself
in a position where you're not putting major league talent
officially major league talent out there. But to Rick's point,
I mean, honestly, you do go through some nights where
you're going like, oh boy, this, you know this, this
lineup they're taking on the Red Sox. Red Sox are
a team that are underperforming by their standards, and they're
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still blowing out the Rockies and it's just not even close.
And even tonight, like Lucas Litto, I mean, he's he's
on a roll right now. Yeah, And Brandon Bella is
kind of like they're saying three or four pitcher and
he pitched a complete game against them, was ten strikeouts?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Just well, they've been I don't have the stats in
front of me, but they I mean that has been
problematic for the Rockies this entire year.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
They strike out way too many times. I mean, they
have to be, if not.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
At the top of that statistical category, they've got to
be very very close to the team that has struck
out the most times this season of all thirty Major
League Baseball. But you know, to your point, how do
you tell, because baseball it's.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
The hardest, it's the hardest sport to tell.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
It is they rarely run out ground balls anyway, even
on good teams, and so you can't tell if they're
hustling or not. That's a valid point that you made.
I just think this is a lack of talent. These
are all young guys trying to make a name for
yourself from themselves. I can't see that any scenario where
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these guys would quit and go, Okay, we're done, we're
going nowhere. I'm going to pack it in. These guys
can't afford to do that. They might not be hitting
the league next year. So I think they're giving it
a good effort still from what I've seen, but they
just don't have the talent to hang with anybody. Look
at the White Sox beat them two out of three
last weekend. Worst team in the league last year and
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the worst team in Major League Baseball history up until
the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh do you can see that for the All Star
Game they're going to use the ABS challenge system? Yep, yeah,
I'm listen.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't know where you.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Guys stand on robo umps and the basically the ability
for machines or learning terminator two language here. Well, we're
learning to a point where we say balls strikes, you
can challenge them. They're not going to announce it necessarily,
but you can challenge that. The hitter, the pitcher, and
the catcher can all challenge it. But basically we're moving closer.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And closer to that.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm a big fan. Hey for you, is this something
that interests you and.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I robot is your favorite all time flat right? I
think it's a little misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, yeah, because because the robots, they weren't all bad.
They weren't bad until bad people made them bad. Like
that's really the lesson.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Uh, I'm trying to think back to the premise of
the movie. I just know that was Tom Brady's Baby
Mama that starred in that movie with Jamie Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Very good.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I think the more we can do, although I would
not be in favor of getting rid of the umpires,
but the more we can do to get calls right,
then the better off it's going to be. I think
there's I think there's a lot of pressure. It's one
of the reasons why I don't like some of the
rule changes in the NFL the last couple of years.
(14:51):
You're you're putting more pressure on officials in in in
really fast time to make a split second decision, and
I think I think that game, I mean, the NFL
is hard enough to officiate as is, so I would
be I'm in favor of giving them the ability at
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at crucial times to go up and say, let's let's
take a look at this, just to make sure we
got it right. I do think they get many more
right than wrong, even ones where we're sitting there watching
on TV and the game's fast and they make a
calling you like, Dad, no way was that and then
you see it in slow motions like wow, you know
what they were, right. I think the baseball umps in
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Major League Baseball are pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Uh. And I'm old school.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I have no problem with umps. I'm not sure about
robots umpiring a game. I'm good with the old school way.
What I do like is this pitch clock. You know,
watching baseball again, Brian, pitchclock like the game much more
watched it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You didn't like it. I like the pitch clock.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I wonder I wondered to you before we were starting
a show one day, if it was leading to some
of the injuries we're seeing with.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Pictures, would that not suggest that you don't like it?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I think it's better for the game.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I don't want people to get hurt, so I think
they can have both conversations.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh god, sorry, ricular.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Topics. Yeah, this is interesting. I don't even know what
I was saying. Oh the pitch clock. Yeah, uh, the
pitch clock I think makes baseball much more watchable. It
got ridiculous how much time pictures were taken on the
mound between the pitches and batters stepping out, you know,
and all the yeah, all of those antics.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I think it's a much better game now. I like
the pace.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I I think that MLB needed this pace, But I
did say, listen, I was asking you, as a guy
that played, if you thought that it was leading to injuries.
We're seeing a lot of pictures getting hurt. And again,
maybe this is I don't have because it feels like
I confuse easily.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So I'm confused on this.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So the question is, Ryan Edwards, do you would you
are you in favor of the pitch clock or are
you against the pitch clock in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And go, I'm in favor of it. Okay, very very good, Yes,
very good. I now know where you stand. I'm in
favor of it. But why do we have to qualify
as a qualifier? Now? There don't you guys just a
qualifier in everything.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I would like to see a study, and this is
getting this is only the second year they're doing this.
I'd like to see a study here in the short
term and potentially long term of what the injury rate
of pictures is as a result of this change.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Do you think there is a qualifier in every discussion
and or topic. He's going to answer, no, I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I was trying to find out a qualifier to Unless
you're talking about you know, somebody's been drinking.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Here's the thing about the pictures getting injured. That's a
whole discussion in itself. When you go back to every
pitcher had twenty twenty five complete games, thirty five in
some case unquestionable, yes, And what were those guys doing
for training? You know a lot of trains they can't shampoo,
shampoo their head now when they get.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
To be sixteen.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I can tell you that back then, those guys were
drinking and smoking, and you know there was they really
weren't training back then, and a lot of those guys
had second jobs. So what are these guys doing now?
Why are their arms blowing up? There's there's a lot
of speculation about that. I think that'd be interesting a discussion.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Would you say velocity is up?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I mean I'm asking in a I guess an honest way,
was velocity up from then? When you're referencing and I agree,
I mean back then it was like, hey, pitchers pitch,
you know, every four days, and they throw for eight
innings not I mean, it wasn't even a thing. And
now it's like everybody's managed and you have you have
pitch counts for guys and you have something in mind,
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a lot of technologies and ball, but as velocity up
because we're seeing guys out there hitting triple digits, even
starters hitting triple digits.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, I think baseball in this regard is a little
bit like the NFL. The athletes are bigger and stronger,
the basically the bone structure is the same, so you're
putting more torque on your in NFL players cases, knees, ankles, shoulders,
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in baseball players cases, if you're a pitcher, your shoulder.
I also think we have kids, young kids that are
throwing way too many innings. They're playing spring ball, they're
playing fall baseball, playing year round baseball because they you know,
they've they've got some dumb ass baseball coach that has
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told them, well, if you don't do this, you're really
not going to be able to compete for a varsity
spot next spring. And I feel so strongly that that
is absolutely not true. But I don't think, you know,
parents buy into it. A lot of times kids buy
into it, and there are you know, there are some
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guys like that, but there's some really good baseball youth
baseball coaches too. But I just think we we can't
play a particular sport year round and expect the kids
that are playing that year round sport not to have
repetitive injuries in various spots of their body.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I think I was perfectly said right there. All right,
we come back, Jake Plumber will join us. We'll be
right back on KA. We head out to the KA
Common Spirit Health hot Line to bring on Jake Snake
Plumber joining us now, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Rick Lewis,
Jake always great, my friend, How are you?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm good. How you guys doing good?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Good?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Good? Jake. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I've got to think you had a run of longer
than forty yards in your career. I would like to
think that I described the longest run of your career.
But my guess is in your career you most definitely
had a run longer than forty yards, right.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Man. You know, I don't think so. I think that
was it. You know, I never had one of those
breakaway chances, because no one really knows really how much
speed I actually do have.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I used to laugh because I'm talking with labar Arrington.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Sometimes and he ran a much faster forty than me.
At the combine.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
But on the field he couldn't catch me, so at
least once or twice I got.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Away from him. But yeah, great call.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I'm in the room with legends, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
I'm talking to Radio Royalty and Bronco Royalty.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You got.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's nice to join you today.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Hey, Jake, rick lewis here man.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Looking forward to hanging out with you tomorrow. Down in
the Springs, We're doing an event the YMCA down there.
One hundred and fifty kids are going to be there, Jake.
I just found out, and it's a pick a ball thing.
Jake is a big pickleball dude. Jake was a big
handball dude, and now it seems like there's been a
transition into pickleball. I've never played. I may take a
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lesson from Jake tomorrow. What kind of shoes do I
have to get? And shorts and all that. I'm gonna
get it on Amazon tonight.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I mean, you can, you can wear whatever you want
and pick a ball. That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
You got freedom for expression and there's no dress code,
no environment.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Athletic shoes are the best, so you can move around
a little bit and.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And still discover that you do have some athleticism.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Left in those bones. And uh yeah, man, well, Seefe,
come down the lot paddles and everything. It'd be fun
to show you what.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I don't think I have too much lateral movement left
in these hips. But I'm pretty sure my hot ant
hike or hot eye and coordination h still works. I'm
not I'm not quite so sure for you. Yeah right,
if not not quite so sure that one about the
lateral thing, or because you've had a hip replacement, but
like when I toss your water bottle, I don't feel
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confident it's going to stay off the ground. We'll see tomorrow, Jake.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Nice, awesome, Yeah, I look forward to it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Thank you. Very cool.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Jake Plummer joining us here. We have to We were
talking about a moment ago that training camps coming up
in about two weeks when I don't know if you
remember when you were about two weeks out from training
camp maybe a little bit of a different Were you
at a point where you're like, hey, I'm in shape,
I'm ready to go, or you trying to like cram
for the final exam and get ready for training camp.
What was it like for you in those final two
weeks before camp.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You know that was the time to really connect with
family and friends and you know a lot of times
just relax, get the workout in that you needed to
stay in shape. But you know you did all the
hard work to actually early on, you know, the March
April May, you were you're killing it, You're hitting it hard.
And then that way before the season, I don't think
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the best idea. You know, we used to have two
A days which were real deal to A days, and
you know, you get all in shape to get feeling
really good, the best you'll ever feel, and then you
come to camp and they break your ass down and
beat you up and make you feel horrible and leading
into a sixteen week season.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So you know, I think they've changed their way some
now and these guys.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Are really into the physical and I just do remember
taking it really easy. I'd go to Corner Lane Lake
towards the tell end of my career and just hang
out on the lake and swim and boat and have
fun with my family and relax, knowing that I was
about to shut down, you know, everything and get focused.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So let me ask you, and we've talked, you know
a lot talks a lot when when you were a
player and have stayed sort of in touch after you retired.
How is how is the Humbo mushroom business going? I
know the last time we talked, things were really kind
of taking off for you.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Where are you with that?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah? I mean this thing business that you know, I
never really studied or planned to be involved in, like
I am, it's ever changing, you know, and it's following trends.
It's a lot to do with marketing and how well
you can convince somebody that they should try your product.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I don't really dig a lot of that other than
I know that what we have is really good.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
It helps that many many people that have benefited from
just feeling better, a little bit better, sleeping better, doing whatever.
And that's really what keeps me going and keeps driving
me to, you know, spread the word and get it
out there. And so, as a company and an individual,
myself ever evolving, we're working on figuring out what's next
(25:40):
to keep this thing going because we feel it's important
that people know that, you know, there's a lot that
mother nature provides that that's really good for you that
you're not going to hear from a doctor necessarily, and
you may hear about it and be confused, thinking it's
a different form of mushroom that takes you on a
psychedelic trip. Well, no, there's an entire weeendom. I call
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it a queendom, not a kingdom of functional mushrooms. And
so we're just trying to alert people and get them
to check it out and try new things, especially something
that's been inherent in our genealogy and we've been using
it and eating them all along through our evolution. To
get back to it and just reap the benefits yourself.
Never I don't know, and I can't tell you what
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it'll do, but they're good for you, and so we're
learning as we go. It's fun and you know, we're enjoying.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Like I said, helping people feel better.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Your partner Dell sent me a package a couple of
weeks ago. So I'm taking the sleep stuff at night
and then the was it Lions Maine in the morning.
I don't know what I'm taking, but whatever do you
recommend it? That's what I'm taking.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Good view, that's that's my partner in it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yes, Yeah, we're always trying to find what's next, you know,
And Rashad Evans our other partner. You know a lot
of UFCMMA fans will know who I'm talking about there.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
And you know, we believe in it because it's helped us.
And you know, like you like you are now a believer.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It's an unbeliever, you know, be able to nice add
something to your weaponfoire that helps you just have better focused,
maybe less the t sleep, better, function a little better.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Hey, Jake, as you know I was.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I've been a fan of yours going back to the
Sun Devil days and been about thirty years. Hard to
believe since you came out of ASU, and you know what,
I'm thinking you were probably ahead of your time because
the running quarterback is the thing right now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
In the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What if you would have been coming out of college
this year, you think your career would have been any
better than.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It already was.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You know, it's hard to say, you know, I mean,
I think I was utilized and given a lot of
opportunity at ASU by a great coach, Bruce Snyder.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
We went through four different quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Coaches, some really really amazing coach is like Hugh Jackson,
Bobby Petrino, John Pettish. You know these guys knew what
they were doing, and they gave me the ability to
be who I was, And I think that was more
important than any necessary like style of play. If they
would have had me just straight got.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Back, dropping back and going through whatever, I would have
worked my ass.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Off to do that. I had a talent in scrambling
and extending plays, and so there were a lot of
guys that come along that were good at that also
during those times, and but they it wasn't what people
were necessarily searching for, you know, because there's a there
was something of a there's a method to the to
the way a quarterback in the pocket can can function
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and never really you know, hurt you too bad with
a with a a very well.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Intentioned just trying to make a play coach moment like.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I always had, where you know, hey, if I got
out of that pocket, now this is my this is
my playbook. I'm writing this, not you, coach. You wrote
that other one didn't work. Outside turned to go out
and flinging down the field and you.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Know what, maybe I throw an interception, but I bet
you you.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Know, seven out of ten times, I'm going to get
that ball in there and if anything, make those guys go, well, man,
we better play the whole till the final final whistle,
you know. So I think that style has become fun
to watch again, and I think that as time goes,
you know, that big quarterback that we've seen will come
around when they have that processing bit in their brain,
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like a Peyton Manning, you know, the guy that can
go through it all and it's just he can make
it happen like that. But now you're seeing much more
success from these guys that get out and run around.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
And you know, the guy who won the Super Bowl
this year, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean, what an awesome story that is. He's finally
done it and he's really morphed into a well rounded,
beautiful quarterback that can do everything.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And that's really I think the future of that position
because it was used well for a while and now
you know, you get someone that.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Can throw it and it and run. Now you've got
another running back out there that can also drop dimes.
I mean, it's it's it's evolving the game for sure, making.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It hard on defenses.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Really appreciate the time as always, my friend, and good
look at the event tomorrow. We hope you dominates out
there and pickleball, and yeah, maybe teach rick Lewis and
his hips a.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Few tricks out there. Get me stretched out before we
do it. I don't want to pop an achilles or anything.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
That's the team, man.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
We'll do a little stretch in, do a little something
to get ready. And uh yeah, big thanks to.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
The USA Pickleball for setting all this up and uh
right now tonight got some guys coming down former players
playing down here at PEAT Pickleball in Colorado Springs. So
grateful to be all to show with you guys and
looking forward to this season with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Jake.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Thanks, Hey, thanks Jake.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You guys do well. Peace.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, I appreciate the great Jake Plumber.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, maybe you take some more of that Lion's Maine
right before you go down there for the pickleball.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Although I think I think that might be the nighttime
one Lion's Maine. It could be. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
How about uh umbo mushrooms, that's what it is, lions
made as a mushroom.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh, what's the thing, what's the thing that? What's the
other thing? You said? There's one you're doing for sleep
in the one in the morning.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Like a lion in a zoo cage. Yeah, and then
you're going to sleep great after that. Yeah, that's what
We're not going to get up in the middle of
the night. What is that one is there? What's the
name of that mushroom? I don't know you're taking the
name of you know what. I just I'm doing what
they told me to do.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
These guys are the experts, you know. Don't even answer that.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's good stuff. Koa ka sports is a preset that way.
You never missed an episode of our show. I like
your question there about mobile quarterbacks Rick because you think
about obviously what he represents, what the league has become.
But you know, with Bonix this upcoming year, there's some
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people out there that want to see him operate more
from the pocket. But it's kind of the same conversation
in a lot of ways with some things Jake was saying,
It's like, but boy, if you have that in your toolbag,
why deny that. I don't know, if I'm judging bon
Nix's performance this year, if he operates more in the
pocket and scrambles less, I actually think I want to
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continue to see him use that, don't you.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I think that's a pretty primary tool in his belts,
and he used it effectively last year. I don't think
he ran too much last year. He bailed out a
little early early in the season, maybe first four or
five games, but I think as the season went on
it was pretty timely the way he used his legs
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to pick up first downs and make plays. And I
would expect to see the same this year, and I
hope we do.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I do too, Dave, what do you think you want
to see a concertive effort from bone Nicks to operate
more from the pocket or do you like the mix
and balance that he was able to work with last year.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I think as his game matures and as Sean gets
even more comfortable with him in terms of what he
likes and what he's really good at him, maybe there's
a few things he's not so good at that I
think that'll be a natural evolution.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I do think you have to.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Be able to even now, you still have to be
able to win from the pocket, even with guys that
you can get outside of the pocket and let them
do their thing, and bo Nix is one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't want to see him run the ball.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Like the Bills run it with Josh Allen, nor like
the Eagles have in the past, not so much this year,
but run it with Jalen Hurts. Those are two big,
physically imposing athletes. Bo Nix is a really good athlete,
but he's not a physically imposing guy, and I think
you have to be judicious in terms of how many
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quarterback design runs so that you don't subject him to
getting him broken. It's hard enough to stay healthy in
the league when you have a really smart guy that
understands that, and we'll get down at the right time.
So just a nice mixture. Continue to grow his game,
and I think he set for a big, big second
year
Happy Wednesday, and of course that is the voice of
Rick Lewis, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards and.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Legend.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
Yeah, some things you never lived down. That's one of them.
If I had to wear the die, probably doing good work.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Ran Well. I think it's part of that.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
You said it with your chest like you.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Just you know what.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I was proud at the moment when that came out
of my mouth, and then I realized that may be
a big mistake.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
It's good to see you, my friend. Yeah, Hi, guys's
good to be back with.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
You, Dave. Good to see you as well. Good to
see both of you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
We have Jake Plummer. You got a thing comer, but
Jake Plumber, don't you. We have Jake Plumber joined us
a three thound thing.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, with Jake Plumber tomorrow down in Colorado Springs. We're
doing a benefit for the YMCA down there, a pickleball
thing and Jake's a big pickleball guy. Really, I've never
played it, Dave. I don't think you probably played it,
have you?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh? Of course?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Uh huh, okay, no, But anyway, it's it's for the kids,
going to be like one hundred and fifty kids down
there and Nick Ferguson is a part of this deal
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Wow are you actually playing or what do you do? No,
I'm going to be the host.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
M see there's a Q and a oh nice type
thing about pickleball and then Jake. You know you basically
talk to Jake in front.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Of the kids.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Very cool. Well we'll ask Jake a little bit more
about it coming up at three thirty. But that is
cool man. You got any gigs coming up too?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I have a gig coming up July nineteenth, that's a
week from Saturday. I'll be at the Wild Goose Saloon again,
which is really good right down the street from me.
Really come down, I'll get your tickets. A really really
cool music venue will be playing there that Saturday night.
Dors at seven show Time to Day, dave On cow Bell,
dave On cow Bell.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I got to get him to coos congos.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I don't know, Well that makes sense with the air drum, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, And I know you can do that because I've
seen you play an air drum, world class rhythm.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I've seen it for a white dude. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I used to own a set of congos and bongos.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Actually they're congas. Congas not congos. Well there congos for me.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
You because you you were trained in afrit Yes, basically yes,
so cong goes right.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Yeah, so because we used to do open mic nights
up before Collins and congas well, I would bring them
for somebody else to play while I play guitar, and
so good be good accompany as Yeah. Anyways, you guys,
you realize we are a month out from the first
preseason game for the Broncos, and I know you're excited about.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It, August ninth in Santa Clara.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yep, it'll be a lot of fun. And then we're
about two weeks out from from training camp as well.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So Broncos.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
By the way, we'll we'll go out there and have
my voice is a little compromise today, So I'm gonna
I'm gonna basically I'll email you guys any comments that
I might have for the next ninety minutes. No, but
the Broncos are going to go out and actually work
against the Niners.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
The game is Saturday.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
The Broncos will leave, I believe, I think it's Wednesday
and go out and get practice. Are we going with
the team or I'm not? You are okay, I'll be
back here getting some much needed practice right in with
high school kids, and then we'll catch up with you
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guys in Santa Clair. When's your first game? Is it
Labor Day weekend for high school? For high school? No,
it's the weekend before. Oh so it's August twenty third, maybe,
and that's in Florida, I believe. No, you believe wrong,
Labor Day weekends in Florida. Okay, so this is a
home game to open that would be wrong again. There'll
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be a road game at Regis right.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm trying to keep going with your schedule, day schedule.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Okay, I'm going to walk down the Cherry Creek High
School website every now and then I'm gonna I'm going
to go to your practice Wednesday. We did talk about this,
and I'm bringing my six year old grandson to watch
the big boys practice. We'll put him in, okay, you
know what he would go in. Yeah, this kid's got
so much confidence. He's really excited about We'll take care
of that. Yeah, he's really excited.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I told him.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
And of course he knows. He's like a little baller.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
He's a little baller and he's got a ton of confidence.
And I said we're gonna go to I watched practice
with with Dave Logan, you know Dave. Yeah, and he said, oh,
I'm gonna be on the field. And he said, well,
you'll be on the field. Will be careful, We'll be Careah.
He's excited.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Good.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well, we got a lot to get to over the
next hour and a half. We got to Rockies baseball
coming up again. I, by the way, was as wrong
as I could possibly be.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
You were right in the sixth inning. Yes, it was scoreless.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
There's a moment I thought about texting you, no kid
sixth inning watching the game, and I'm like, mankle Freedlan's
dealing again. He's got He's on the presipice of another
quality start.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It was like a picture's duel. It was zero zero.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
I mean, I thought they're doing everything they need to
do except for actually score runs, need the office to
do something. And then the damn just broke wide open,
including a Trevor Story run home.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
That kind of sealed the deal there, but uh, you know,
so you look at the end. I was talking to
my mom this morning because I've talked to you and
you told me I need to talk to my parents more.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, well, I said, your dad, your mom, You and
your mom have a good relationship.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I mean I would anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Anyways, she was like, boy, a tough night for the Rockies,
tended to and I was like, well the hold on, mom,
you're you're missing the context here. The Rockies were in
this thing. And she's like, what's the record and I
was like.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, it's fine. She could she could
do this show, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
She's a big Rockies fan, so she watches and listens.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I don't know if she is.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Well.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
See, that's the funny thing.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I have people in my life and I told this
today a couple days ago when we were talking about
visiting my in laws. I have people in my life
that pay just sort of a cursory knowledge attention to
sports so.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
That they have things to talk to me about. Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
So then they come back and like, hey, how about
them Rockies? So they me up with that ten to two.
Well it's a tough loss. I'm like, yeah, well, you know,
the season has.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Been that Red Sox pitcher was dealing that dude Bella.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
You don't see many complete games in Major League Baseball anymore.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Got two on them though.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Yeah, he's he's a good one.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Well, the guy you picked the Rocks to win, pick
the Rockies to.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Win last night, it was it's abound to happen.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's gonna just you know what I say, keep picking,
just keep picking, just keep picking them.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I got asked a question today, didn't have a very
good answer for. So I'll throw this out there for you,
two guys. So the Rockies are now twenty one and
seventy one. The question came from one of those people
like you have in your life, sort of a casual
baseball fan that knows it's been a really tough year
for the Rockies. And I'm not even sure he knows
(06:54):
exactly how many games in a season, but he knows
they've played close to one hundred and they haven't done well.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
He said.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
At what point, if ever, there's a Major League Baseball team?
He said, does a major does a Major League Baseball
team ever get to the point where they can they
just say, you know, we're just going to mail it in.
I said, I honestly, I don't know what would that
even look like.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I'm trying to think of last night, but I mean, like,
because baseball is baseball, right, and That's why we like
the All Star Game so much generally.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Because I'll tell you what it looked like from an
offensive standpoint, not really grinding in an at bat, being
too casual in your approach as a hitter. You just
you know you're you're gonna swing a couple of times.
You're not, You're not really grinding and making that pitchure work,
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swinging at bad pitches. I mean that to me would
be the first tell from an offensive standpoint, defensively, you know,
not hustling.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I don't know. I haven't now listen, I have.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Watched fewer full games this year of Rockies baseball than
at any time since their first year, which was nineteen
ninety three on TV. I've watched them, but just on
a religiously regular basis, so I can't say that I've
seen too much of that. I thought they were a
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little casual last night at the plate from time to time.
Interesting day, because this is the most Rockies Baseball I've
watched in years, and I hate to say it, but
it's a fascination with watching probably the worst season in
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modern baseball history. I hate to say that, but I
had completely lost interest in the Rockies for the last
I don't know how many years this year I'm watching. Well,
you're not really a sports guy. Really a sports guy,
that's what they tell me. Who tells you that? Oh,
just somebody telling you? Okay, yeah, No. I used to
(09:08):
be a huge baseball I'm huge, and that was my
actually my favorite sport to watch, I think, as a
kid all the way up into my twenties, and I
went to tons of baseball games. But this is this
is fascinating to me now because you just don't see
this ever happen. And I've been watching and I think
I can say this, and I hate to say it
(09:30):
on the Rockies flagship, but this is the worst baseball
team I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Well the record reflects that, and I feel.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Like they give up it.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Generally speaking, I think baseball teams will give up about
All Star Break when they're out of it. You know,
they make a lot of money. Does they look like
it's all guaranteed? I mean, what is what does it
look like?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
It's a tough question because baseball is not a high
energy sport. Baseball is a low energy That's what I mean.
But when you say I feel like they give up
at about the All Star break. So what And I'm
being serious here because I hadn't thought about it until
my friend posed the question, what would that look like?
How would you be able to determine if you're I
(10:12):
think we're all baseball fans, if that type mentality had
overtaken the clubhouse. And I'm not suggesting it has, I
just don't.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
Know, But what would it look like? They got a.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Little I thought they had a little more energy when
they got rid of Bud Black with this new interim manager,
they did look I think they've looked better really since,
but I think that's faded at this point. And basically,
it's a total lack of talent on that team. They
just don't have enough good players. And I'm watching I
don't even know who these guys are. Most of them.
(10:48):
You know, Mark haz yeah, Sentinela, Yeah, he's pitching tonight.
But most of these guys, I'm like, who are these guys?
And I think the lack of talent is startling when
you watch this team.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Well, I think that to answer your question, Dave, I
think that would be where i'd lean is is And again,
it's not even guaranteeing that you would lose, but you
would in a lot of ways organizationally, try to say
bring up players that that maybe you're just going to
give some opportunity. Maybe they're a little early in their
abilities to play at the major league level. I don't know,
(11:20):
I mean, because that that would be the way, like
you're just bringing up prospects, You're just shoving prospects out
there and saying, hey, you know, whatever happens, I don't know,
you know, but they really haven't.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
They haven't done that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
They haven't done that. But that would be the way
not to tank so much, but also to put yourself
in a position where you're not putting major league talent
officially major league talent out there. But to Rick's point,
I mean, honestly, you do go through some nights where
you're going like, oh boy, this, you know this, this
lineup they're taking on the Red Sox. Red Sox are
a team that are underperforming by their standards, and they're
(11:50):
still blowing out the Rockies and it's just not even close.
And even tonight, like Lucas Litto, I mean, he's he's
on a roll right now. Yeah, And Brandon Bella is
kind of like they're saying three or four pitcher and
he pitched a complete game against them, was ten strikeouts?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Just well, they've been I don't have the stats in
front of me, but they I mean that has been
problematic for the Rockies this entire year.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
They strike out way too many times. I mean, they
have to be, if not.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
At the top of that statistical category, they've got to
be very very close to the team that has struck
out the most times this season of all thirty Major
League Baseball. But you know, to your point, how do
you tell, because baseball it's.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
The hardest, it's the hardest sport to tell.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
It is they rarely run out ground balls anyway, even
on good teams, and so you can't tell if they're
hustling or not. That's a valid point that you made.
I just think this is a lack of talent. These
are all young guys trying to make a name for
yourself from themselves. I can't see that any scenario where
(12:59):
these guys would quit and go, Okay, we're done, we're
going nowhere. I'm going to pack it in. These guys
can't afford to do that. They might not be hitting
the league next year. So I think they're giving it
a good effort still from what I've seen, but they
just don't have the talent to hang with anybody. Look
at the White Sox beat them two out of three
last weekend. Worst team in the league last year and
(13:21):
the worst team in Major League Baseball history up until
the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
Oh do you can see that for the All Star
Game they're going to use the ABS challenge system? Yep, yeah,
I'm listen.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I don't know where you.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Guys stand on robo umps and the basically the ability
for machines or learning terminator two language here. Well, we're
learning to a point where we say balls strikes, you
can challenge them. They're not going to announce it necessarily,
but you can challenge that. The hitter, the pitcher, and
the catcher can all challenge it. But basically we're moving closer.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
And closer to that.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
I'm a big fan. Hey for you, is this something
that interests you and.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I robot is your favorite all time flat right? I
think it's a little misunderstood.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Yeah, yeah, because because the robots, they weren't all bad.
They weren't bad until bad people made them bad. Like
that's really the lesson.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Uh, I'm trying to think back to the premise of
the movie. I just know that was Tom Brady's Baby
Mama that starred in that movie with Jamie Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Very good.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
I think the more we can do, although I would
not be in favor of getting rid of the umpires,
but the more we can do to get calls right,
then the better off it's going to be. I think
there's I think there's a lot of pressure. It's one
of the reasons why I don't like some of the
rule changes in the NFL the last couple of years.
(14:51):
You're you're putting more pressure on officials in in in
really fast time to make a split second decision, and
I think I think that game, I mean, the NFL
is hard enough to officiate as is, so I would
be I'm in favor of giving them the ability at
(15:12):
at crucial times to go up and say, let's let's
take a look at this, just to make sure we
got it right. I do think they get many more
right than wrong, even ones where we're sitting there watching
on TV and the game's fast and they make a
calling you like, Dad, no way was that and then
you see it in slow motions like wow, you know
what they were, right. I think the baseball umps in
(15:33):
Major League Baseball are pretty damn good.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Uh. And I'm old school.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
I have no problem with umps. I'm not sure about
robots umpiring a game. I'm good with the old school way.
What I do like is this pitch clock. You know,
watching baseball again, Brian, pitchclock like the game much more
watched it.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
You didn't like it. I like the pitch clock.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
I wonder I wondered to you before we were starting
a show one day, if it was leading to some
of the injuries we're seeing with.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Pictures, would that not suggest that you don't like it?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
No.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
I think it's better for the game.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I don't want people to get hurt, so I think
they can have both conversations.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Oh god, sorry, ricular.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Topics. Yeah, this is interesting. I don't even know what
I was saying. Oh the pitch clock. Yeah, uh, the
pitch clock I think makes baseball much more watchable. It
got ridiculous how much time pictures were taken on the
mound between the pitches and batters stepping out, you know,
and all the yeah, all of those antics.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I think it's a much better game now. I like
the pace.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I I think that MLB needed this pace, But I
did say, listen, I was asking you, as a guy
that played, if you thought that it was leading to injuries.
We're seeing a lot of pictures getting hurt. And again,
maybe this is I don't have because it feels like
I confuse easily.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So I'm confused on this.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
So the question is, Ryan Edwards, do you would you
are you in favor of the pitch clock or are
you against the pitch clock in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And go, I'm in favor of it. Okay, very very good, Yes,
very good. I now know where you stand. I'm in
favor of it. But why do we have to qualify
as a qualifier? Now? There don't you guys just a
qualifier in everything.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I would like to see a study, and this is
getting this is only the second year they're doing this.
I'd like to see a study here in the short
term and potentially long term of what the injury rate
of pictures is as a result of this change.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Do you think there is a qualifier in every discussion
and or topic. He's going to answer, no, I mean, but.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
I was trying to find out a qualifier to Unless
you're talking about you know, somebody's been drinking.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Here's the thing about the pictures getting injured. That's a
whole discussion in itself. When you go back to every
pitcher had twenty twenty five complete games, thirty five in
some case unquestionable, yes, And what were those guys doing
for training? You know a lot of trains they can't shampoo,
shampoo their head now when they get.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
To be sixteen.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I can tell you that back then, those guys were
drinking and smoking, and you know there was they really
weren't training back then, and a lot of those guys
had second jobs. So what are these guys doing now?
Why are their arms blowing up? There's there's a lot
of speculation about that. I think that'd be interesting a discussion.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Would you say velocity is up?
Speaker 1 (18:38):
I mean I'm asking in a I guess an honest way,
was velocity up from then? When you're referencing and I agree,
I mean back then it was like, hey, pitchers pitch,
you know, every four days, and they throw for eight
innings not I mean, it wasn't even a thing. And
now it's like everybody's managed and you have you have
pitch counts for guys and you have something in mind,
(18:59):
a lot of technologies and ball, but as velocity up
because we're seeing guys out there hitting triple digits, even
starters hitting triple digits.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Yeah, I think baseball in this regard is a little
bit like the NFL. The athletes are bigger and stronger,
the basically the bone structure is the same, so you're
putting more torque on your in NFL players cases, knees, ankles, shoulders,
(19:29):
in baseball players cases, if you're a pitcher, your shoulder.
I also think we have kids, young kids that are
throwing way too many innings. They're playing spring ball, they're
playing fall baseball, playing year round baseball because they you know,
they've they've got some dumb ass baseball coach that has
(19:51):
told them, well, if you don't do this, you're really
not going to be able to compete for a varsity
spot next spring. And I feel so strongly that that
is absolutely not true. But I don't think, you know,
parents buy into it. A lot of times kids buy
into it, and there are you know, there are some
(20:11):
guys like that, but there's some really good baseball youth
baseball coaches too. But I just think we we can't
play a particular sport year round and expect the kids
that are playing that year round sport not to have
repetitive injuries in various spots of their body.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, I think I was perfectly said right there. All right,
we come back, Jake Plumber will join us. We'll be
right back on KA. We head out to the KA
Common Spirit Health hot Line to bring on Jake Snake
Plumber joining us now, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Rick Lewis,
Jake always great, my friend, How are you?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I'm good. How you guys doing good?
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Good?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Good? Jake. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I've got to think you had a run of longer
than forty yards in your career. I would like to
think that I described the longest run of your career.
But my guess is in your career you most definitely
had a run longer than forty yards, right.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Man. You know, I don't think so. I think that
was it. You know, I never had one of those
breakaway chances, because no one really knows really how much
speed I actually do have.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
I used to laugh because I'm talking with labar Arrington.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Sometimes and he ran a much faster forty than me.
At the combine.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
But on the field he couldn't catch me, so at
least once or twice I got.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Away from him. But yeah, great call.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
I'm in the room with legends, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
I'm talking to Radio Royalty and Bronco Royalty.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
You got.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
It's nice to join you today.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Hey, Jake, rick lewis here man.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
Looking forward to hanging out with you tomorrow. Down in
the Springs, We're doing an event the YMCA down there.
One hundred and fifty kids are going to be there, Jake.
I just found out, and it's a pick a ball thing.
Jake is a big pickleball dude. Jake was a big
handball dude, and now it seems like there's been a
transition into pickleball. I've never played. I may take a
(22:08):
lesson from Jake tomorrow. What kind of shoes do I
have to get? And shorts and all that. I'm gonna
get it on Amazon tonight.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I mean, you can, you can wear whatever you want
and pick a ball. That's the thing.
Speaker 5 (22:18):
You got freedom for expression and there's no dress code,
no environment.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Athletic shoes are the best, so you can move around
a little bit and.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
And still discover that you do have some athleticism.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Left in those bones. And uh yeah, man, well, Seefe,
come down the lot paddles and everything. It'd be fun
to show you what.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I don't think I have too much lateral movement left
in these hips. But I'm pretty sure my hot ant
hike or hot eye and coordination h still works. I'm
not I'm not quite so sure for you. Yeah right,
if not not quite so sure that one about the
lateral thing, or because you've had a hip replacement, but
like when I toss your water bottle, I don't feel
(23:01):
confident it's going to stay off the ground. We'll see tomorrow, Jake.
I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
Nice, awesome, Yeah, I look forward to it.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Thank you. Very cool.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Jake Plummer joining us here. We have to We were
talking about a moment ago that training camps coming up
in about two weeks when I don't know if you
remember when you were about two weeks out from training
camp maybe a little bit of a different Were you
at a point where you're like, hey, I'm in shape,
I'm ready to go, or you trying to like cram
for the final exam and get ready for training camp.
What was it like for you in those final two
weeks before camp.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
You know that was the time to really connect with
family and friends and you know a lot of times
just relax, get the workout in that you needed to
stay in shape. But you know you did all the
hard work to actually early on, you know, the March
April May, you were you're killing it, You're hitting it hard.
And then that way before the season, I don't think
(23:55):
the best idea. You know, we used to have two
A days which were real deal to A days, and
you know, you get all in shape to get feeling
really good, the best you'll ever feel, and then you
come to camp and they break your ass down and
beat you up and make you feel horrible and leading
into a sixteen week season.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So you know, I think they've changed their way some
now and these guys.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Are really into the physical and I just do remember
taking it really easy. I'd go to Corner Lane Lake
towards the tell end of my career and just hang
out on the lake and swim and boat and have
fun with my family and relax, knowing that I was
about to shut down, you know, everything and get focused.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
So let me ask you, and we've talked, you know
a lot talks a lot when when you were a
player and have stayed sort of in touch after you retired.
How is how is the Humbo mushroom business going? I
know the last time we talked, things were really kind
of taking off for you.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Where are you with that?
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Yeah? I mean this thing business that you know, I
never really studied or planned to be involved in, like
I am, it's ever changing, you know, and it's following trends.
It's a lot to do with marketing and how well
you can convince somebody that they should try your product.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
I don't really dig a lot of that other than
I know that what we have is really good.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
It helps that many many people that have benefited from
just feeling better, a little bit better, sleeping better, doing whatever.
And that's really what keeps me going and keeps driving
me to, you know, spread the word and get it
out there. And so, as a company and an individual,
myself ever evolving, we're working on figuring out what's next
(25:40):
to keep this thing going because we feel it's important
that people know that, you know, there's a lot that
mother nature provides that that's really good for you that
you're not going to hear from a doctor necessarily, and
you may hear about it and be confused, thinking it's
a different form of mushroom that takes you on a
psychedelic trip. Well, no, there's an entire weeendom. I call
(26:01):
it a queendom, not a kingdom of functional mushrooms. And
so we're just trying to alert people and get them
to check it out and try new things, especially something
that's been inherent in our genealogy and we've been using
it and eating them all along through our evolution. To
get back to it and just reap the benefits yourself.
Never I don't know, and I can't tell you what
(26:22):
it'll do, but they're good for you, and so we're
learning as we go. It's fun and you know, we're enjoying.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Like I said, helping people feel better.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Your partner Dell sent me a package a couple of
weeks ago. So I'm taking the sleep stuff at night
and then the was it Lions Maine in the morning.
I don't know what I'm taking, but whatever do you
recommend it? That's what I'm taking.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Good view, that's that's my partner in it.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yes, Yeah, we're always trying to find what's next, you know,
And Rashad Evans our other partner. You know a lot
of UFCMMA fans will know who I'm talking about there.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
And you know, we believe in it because it's helped us.
And you know, like you like you are now a believer.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
It's an unbeliever, you know, be able to nice add
something to your weaponfoire that helps you just have better focused,
maybe less the t sleep, better, function a little better.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Hey, Jake, as you know I was.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
I've been a fan of yours going back to the
Sun Devil days and been about thirty years. Hard to
believe since you came out of ASU, and you know what,
I'm thinking you were probably ahead of your time because
the running quarterback is the thing right now.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
In the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
What if you would have been coming out of college
this year, you think your career would have been any
better than.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
It already was.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
You know, it's hard to say, you know, I mean,
I think I was utilized and given a lot of
opportunity at ASU by a great coach, Bruce Snyder.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
We went through four different quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Coaches, some really really amazing coach is like Hugh Jackson,
Bobby Petrino, John Pettish. You know these guys knew what
they were doing, and they gave me the ability to
be who I was, And I think that was more
important than any necessary like style of play. If they
would have had me just straight got.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Back, dropping back and going through whatever, I would have
worked my ass.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Off to do that. I had a talent in scrambling
and extending plays, and so there were a lot of
guys that come along that were good at that also
during those times, and but they it wasn't what people
were necessarily searching for, you know, because there's a there
was something of a there's a method to the to
the way a quarterback in the pocket can can function
(28:38):
and never really you know, hurt you too bad with
a with a a very well.
Speaker 5 (28:43):
Intentioned just trying to make a play coach moment like.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I always had, where you know, hey, if I got
out of that pocket, now this is my this is
my playbook. I'm writing this, not you, coach. You wrote
that other one didn't work. Outside turned to go out
and flinging down the field and you.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Know what, maybe I throw an interception, but I bet
you you.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Know, seven out of ten times, I'm going to get
that ball in there and if anything, make those guys go, well, man,
we better play the whole till the final final whistle,
you know. So I think that style has become fun
to watch again, and I think that as time goes,
you know, that big quarterback that we've seen will come
around when they have that processing bit in their brain,
(29:28):
like a Peyton Manning, you know, the guy that can
go through it all and it's just he can make
it happen like that. But now you're seeing much more
success from these guys that get out and run around.
Speaker 5 (29:39):
And you know, the guy who won the Super Bowl
this year, Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
I mean, what an awesome story that is. He's finally
done it and he's really morphed into a well rounded,
beautiful quarterback that can do everything.
Speaker 5 (29:51):
And that's really I think the future of that position
because it was used well for a while and now
you know, you get someone that.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Can throw it and it and run. Now you've got
another running back out there that can also drop dimes.
I mean, it's it's it's evolving the game for sure, making.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
It hard on defenses.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Really appreciate the time as always, my friend, and good
look at the event tomorrow. We hope you dominates out
there and pickleball, and yeah, maybe teach rick Lewis and
his hips a.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Few tricks out there. Get me stretched out before we
do it. I don't want to pop an achilles or anything.
Speaker 4 (30:23):
That's the team, man.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
We'll do a little stretch in, do a little something
to get ready. And uh yeah, big thanks to.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
The USA Pickleball for setting all this up and uh
right now tonight got some guys coming down former players
playing down here at PEAT Pickleball in Colorado Springs. So
grateful to be all to show with you guys and
looking forward to this season with the Broncos.
Speaker 2 (30:42):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Jake.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Thanks, Hey, thanks Jake.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You guys do well. Peace.
Speaker 1 (30:47):
Yeah, I appreciate the great Jake Plumber.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Well, maybe you take some more of that Lion's Maine
right before you go down there for the pickleball.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Although I think I think that might be the nighttime
one Lion's Maine. It could be. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
How about uh umbo mushrooms, that's what it is, lions
made as a mushroom.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Oh, what's the thing, what's the thing that? What's the
other thing? You said? There's one you're doing for sleep
in the one in the morning.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Like a lion in a zoo cage. Yeah, and then
you're going to sleep great after that. Yeah, that's what
We're not going to get up in the middle of
the night. What is that one is there? What's the
name of that mushroom? I don't know you're taking the
name of you know what. I just I'm doing what
they told me to do.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
These guys are the experts, you know. Don't even answer that.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
That's good stuff. Koa ka sports is a preset that way.
You never missed an episode of our show. I like
your question there about mobile quarterbacks Rick because you think
about obviously what he represents, what the league has become.
But you know, with Bonix this upcoming year, there's some
(31:59):
people out there that want to see him operate more
from the pocket. But it's kind of the same conversation
in a lot of ways with some things Jake was saying,
It's like, but boy, if you have that in your toolbag,
why deny that. I don't know, if I'm judging bon
Nix's performance this year, if he operates more in the
pocket and scrambles less, I actually think I want to
(32:20):
continue to see him use that, don't you.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
I think that's a pretty primary tool in his belts,
and he used it effectively last year. I don't think
he ran too much last year. He bailed out a
little early early in the season, maybe first four or
five games, but I think as the season went on
it was pretty timely the way he used his legs
(32:45):
to pick up first downs and make plays. And I
would expect to see the same this year, and I
hope we do.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I do too, Dave, what do you think you want
to see a concertive effort from bone Nicks to operate
more from the pocket or do you like the mix
and balance that he was able to work with last year.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
I think as his game matures and as Sean gets
even more comfortable with him in terms of what he
likes and what he's really good at him, maybe there's
a few things he's not so good at that I
think that'll be a natural evolution.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I do think you have to.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Be able to even now, you still have to be
able to win from the pocket, even with guys that
you can get outside of the pocket and let them
do their thing, and bo Nix is one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
I don't want to see him run the ball.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
Like the Bills run it with Josh Allen, nor like
the Eagles have in the past, not so much this year,
but run it with Jalen Hurts. Those are two big,
physically imposing athletes. Bo Nix is a really good athlete,
but he's not a physically imposing guy, and I think
you have to be judicious in terms of how many
(33:58):
quarterback design runs so that you don't subject him to
getting him broken. It's hard enough to stay healthy in
the league when you have a really smart guy that
understands that, and we'll get down at the right time.
So just a nice mixture. Continue to grow his game,
and I think he set for a big, big second
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