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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Orlando Franklin in studio with us. What's so big?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. You know, it's
been a couple of weeks, Ryan, but you know, I
think I still know how to do this thing.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, you're a radio vet, you know, you know what
you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
But I'm just smelling all that new money, man, all
that new money. There's some brinch trucks were backed up
within the last twenty four hours. I love it, man,
love to see these young cats getting paid.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It was a very very busy day in the NFL
with contracts being handed out, and the most recent one,
this is within the last hour, TJ Watt three years,
one hundred and twenty three million dollar contracts. He is
now the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
This is ridiculous. Oh my, just to rush the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Just get can you get a one sack of game
cover for seventeen games? Yeah, and you could get three years,
one hundred and what one hundred.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And twenty three Oh my god, forty one per.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I wasn't even talking about that money, Ryan, I was
just talking about our guys. I was talking to the
the first round, in the second round, pick because I
saw the Harvey deal and I was like, whoa, look
at all that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Money, and that's a good deal too, hey for a
second rounder that's your third year and getting nearly fifty
percent of your third year guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Too. Hey.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I was picked forty six for the Broncos and my
deal looked like about almost half of that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So I was a little jealous when I saw it
come out a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I thought of you, because I was I knew we
had you in.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I was like, you know, Orlando is the second rounder,
and you know, Harvey's actually picked later. He's picked sixty,
so he's going to make you know, especially into his
third year, which is going to be basically half of
it guaranteed. I know, I wondered how you'd feel, as
a former second round pick about that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean, I'll tell you this, I absolutely love seeing
cats get paid right, you know, generational wealth. If a
Harvey is only placed three and a half years, if
he manages it the right way, has a good team.
You know, it seems like he has a great head
on his shoulders. You know, he could do something and
used that as a great springboard and and never really
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have to work for the rest of his life. So
I always love to see that. But there's a small
like maybe like fifteen twenty percent of me.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That's a little salty.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Would you see the money that gets thrown out around
nowadays in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And then like man, I could have held out a
couple more years.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Maybe it is silly, sees a Dave log and my friend,
how are all.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's good to see both of you.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Good to see you as well. We were just talking
about not only RJ. Harvey's contract, which is finally done.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I knew it would get done, just maybe a little
bit later than a lot of people wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
But yeah, TJ.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Watt one hundred and twenty three three year, one hundred
and twenty three million, one hundred and eight fully guaranteed.
He's now the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, I think I believe he's led the NFL and
sacks the last five years he's averaged I think I
think fifteen sacks a year. Is that right?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I thought that's about Yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think that's right. And it just it goes to
show you the premium the teams put on difference makers
on their team right, quarterbacks are difference makers. There are
you know, a handful of minus a few fingers of
difference makers as receivers, edge pass rushers. There are a
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couple of handfuls maybe minus a couple of fingers of
difference makers in that category, you know, left tackles. I
mean a lot of guys in the league. I mean
guys playing the league are good players. But then there
are the difference makers that and those guys are those
guys are gonna get paid there. I love how you
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talk about difference makers because I remember when I was
what the Broncos we call the like.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Game wreckers, right yep. And you'll look at some guys
like you look at TJ. And he's forty one a
year now, right, one hundred and twenty three, three years.
It's an unbelievable contract and it's great and you reset
the market and you do something.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He is a game wreckerd. He is right where you know.
When I played for the Bronco with Rob Nick and Bitch,
he was like my kryptonite New England Patriots outside linebacker.
I would have seventy plays against him and I would
dominate him for sixty nine of those plays. And for
my first four games against him, I gave up a
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second all four games. And it's not like you're you're
sitting there and it's like you're stressed down and you're
straining every single play you're fairly getting no Like literally
I have plays where I'm picking scooping them up, driving
him five yards back and dumping them like and literally
like selling out and and but just one play he's
a slippery and he gets me. He just gets back
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there like so that like he made.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
A great career and bring a player.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, really good putting.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But when you look at like, I know why TJ
Wat's getting this deal because it's like you're turning.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
The protection to him.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You're focused on him every single play, and yet he's
still making a difference when sometimes there's not a lot
around him.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And that's what you deserve. That type of contract. It was.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It was a deal where I think we all sort
of expected it, Like I'm not surprised that t J.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Watt got a deal done.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It just was one of those often times, in the
absence of information, sometimes people create narratives, right, And in
the absence of t J Wat getting his contract and
it's been months. I think was what February when Miles
Garrett got his deal, and you know, I'm an all
off season has been like okay, well the Steelers consider
trading him. There was rumors float around about a possible trade.
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Teams were calling the Pittsburgh Steelers in the n T. J.
Watt is, he's Pittsburgh Royalty at this point, and you
just said it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
He's a game wrecker, he's he's a difference maker in
this league.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And it's it's much to do about nothing in a
lot of ways, which sometimes happens in this business because
we have to talk about something, don't we do every
single day?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
We had talked about something, I said, Dave, but I
I flubbed the A.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So what did you come up?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have no idea?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
What do Dove?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
No, I think I think everybody.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yes, I listen.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I was just try I want to make sure you
didn't swear. I mean, I was like, what did you
just call me a? What? No? Like that?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Like the Doug the same for like the Ryan and
Brian thing, Like you know how Ryan's and Brian's get
really offended? Does the Daves get really offended? If you
guys get called doug by accident.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
No no, no, no, you've probably da teammates, but Ryan
and Brian are like arch enemies. I think I think
that I think it's pretty clear Pittsburgh with what they've
done at quarterback. I mean, they're all in this year.
This is a big year for Mike Tomlin, big year
for the Steelers, and there's just no way you could
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you could send the message to your locker room that
we're all in. This is a big year for us.
And oh, by the way, we just traded t J. Watt, right,
and there's no way you could do it. So it's
just I mean, it's amazing. I'm happy for guys money wise,
I really am. But it's amazing to me how quickly
when you think of forty one million dollars a year,
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it wasn't seemingly wasn't that long ago where I was
like your salary cap when you were in the league,
right like that too, that was like that paid for
the entire AFC North. I think I think the entire
four teams rosters was under forty one million dollars. But
I think I think if if you look at how
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quickly the salaries have gone up, It wasn't that long
ago where if a quarterback got like forty million, forty
one million, we were like astounded. Not long ago, the
elite quarterbacks were making like twenty five and you're thinking, damn,
they's making twenty five million dollars a year. Right now,
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It's it's way up there.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's way up there, no doubt about that speed of
edge rushers.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
By the way, last night we got some news von
Miller I be playing with the Washington Commanders. With the
Broncos are going to see Washington Commanders this season, and
so we'll get a chance to see von Miller back
out there like we saw him in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Uh, playing with the Buffalo Bills. I don't know, man, It's.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Going to be impossible for me, regardless of how much
longer Von Miller plays in this league, to root against him.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I can't now getting that game.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I think it's kind of like see as you see
you things, like, you know, hey, have a great career season,
whatever you end up doing the rest of this time.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That one game though not not today, but otherwise I
am such a big fan.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I think that the.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Way Vaughn embraced Denver and what he's brought to the
city and and it's all the dominoes that happened after that,
you know, like that defense was so good and so
young and and being you know, mentored by guys like
Elvis Duomerville, and then the Marcus were coming and Peyton
coming with a young offensive line, Like you know, that's
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really when it kind of turned.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So I'm right there. I will always be a Von
Miller fan.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And when I saw that news, I was like, Yes,
he's going to a team where he's not going to
have to play forty plus snaps a game, Like he's
going to be a twenty to twenty five snap a
game guy out there in Washington. And it's a contender, right,
It's about, you know, can you get some hardware at
the end of the day. Right, that's why you're still playing.
You're not playing for your bank account at this point.
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I mean, you've already won the Super Bowl, You've already
been an MVP, so I would think that it still
matters of championships and can you get there and win
another one.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
The other thing that happened last night, and we're not
going to break down the SP's by any stretch of
the imagination, but our guy should or Sanders got to
throw it under the bus a little bit in the
opening monologue.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Here's what it sounds like.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Shore Sanders had his jersey number retired to Colorado this year,
and people are saying it's because of nepotism, because of
his father, and it's not. It's because he went thirteen
and twelve over his career and he almost won the
Alamo Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Definitely not nepotism, right, all right, Shane.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Gillis, you know, do you watch any of.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
The clips from Shane Gillis last year?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Actually watched some of the show. I mean there there
there were some, There were some good there.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Were some good one lighters.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It's a political humor in there that will just let
people find on their own.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Now, if I'm Karl Anthony Towns, oh boy, I'm probably
looking for Shane Dillis for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's like girl, the Hey Girl, Yeah, Hey girl, Okay,
it's a w n B. A joke like that did
not do well either.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I think the w n B A joke was was
one of his best jokes. Was introduced the girl Yes, Yes,
and everybody said, everybody, what do we have it?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
We we could we could find it, but yeah where
He's like, dogs.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Round of applause for it. I can't remember the name
uh star in the w n B A, and everybody's applause.
He said, I'm just kidding. That's my that's my one
of my best friend's wives. I knew. I knew nobody
here could pick out any of the w n B
A players. I mean, I thought you didn't think that
was funny.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I thought it was very funny.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It just it's it's fascinating to watch these things, like
because you're watching it and then watching it being reacted
to on social media, and those are two different things.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
But there was a lot of people really upset about that.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Those jokes like I'm asking for a friend. Yeah. What
were they upset about with the w NBA joke?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, I think a lot of it was more projection
because ESPN has been.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So heavy on w NBA.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, they had, and so they're like, oh boy, I
bet ESPN's freaking out about, you know, taking shots at
the w n B A.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
ESPN wrote his jokes. You understand that, right, I Mean
he alluded to it twice, like I didn't really want
to do this one. You know, there were a couple
that you you know, I cringed a little bit, like, oh,
I wonder how that's going.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
To play the UFC on the White House lawn.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Hear that. I didn't see that one. Oh man, no good, No,
it was very good.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Just you know, borderline political.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You say that in today's society, it was.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was political. It was uh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We will try to find that one too. It was
it was a joke about January sixth. I'll just say that.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't see
that one. I mean I didn't. I sat there, watched
a little bit, flipped away, came back, watched a little bit,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Watched the first fifteen twenty minutes and I was out.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I saw nothing. Russell's presentation, yes, yeah, it was, you know,
he did a nicely. I'll be always just show there's
just nothing on, like, well that's that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Though.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Your WNBA is on how did you do last night?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And showing the money. I split my first w NBA
loss of my career. I didn't sweep my but it
took three games before I didn't sweep in a w
NBA game. And I'm proud of it?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Are you losing your edge?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, a little bit more homework there day.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Apparently, Well, at least you didn't have as bad enough
as bad of a night as the couple of the
Coldplay concert.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Oh my, I saw that. So I was based on
the reaction. Both of them are married.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Correct, Oh boy, yeah, because you know how the internet is.
Is as soon as they were identified and if you
haven't seen this, oh it's I mean, is something so
last night in a cold Play concert, they're doing the
like a kiss cameraor a couple camera there Chris Martin,
the least singer of cold Play. This is going around
the crowd and they get onto this couple who are
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up in a.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Suite and the guy's holding a girl.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
She's standing in front of me, in front of him,
leaning back, I would say, adoringly, exactly into his chest.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
As soon as the camera gets.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
On them, Bro ducks down and crawls out of the
You don't see him ever again.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Oh he dropped her seriously, like like like she was
two hundred degrees and she.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Turned around and covered her face.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, and then apparently there's a galle that was just
to the right and she's also with that company, and
apparently he's a CEO of this giant company.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Was last night, was to see the CEO today and she's.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
The head of hr O.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
She's the head of hr Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, I'm glad we're able to clear that up. I
just thought she was, you know, maybe the main chick,
maybe the on the side. I don't know, you girlfriend
number two.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But Chris Martin, he's like, either they're very shy or
we just caught people an adult tree having an affair.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
So yeah, so somebody will follow up on that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well of course it is because the internet does what
they do, and so immediately everybody found his wife on
Facebook and started sharing that video. Oh oh so she
scrubbed his name off of her profile. Oh boy, so
like the internet works fast.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I do not know, because she's married to the woman
in the video. I do not know what's going on
with her. But I couldn't help it today, you just
follow along.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It was I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It was actually for all the awfulness that often tends
to happen on social media these days.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Well, let's you know, we we basically the world gambles
on everything, right, there's a line on everything, due they
were in such they were in a like a happy place.
So let's let's say, right now, does he does he
retain his job as CEO of whatever company is? Does
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she retain her job as the head of HR? So
is that we're hoping? So yeah, well maybe one of
the spouses might want to get paid, so not sure.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But if you wouldn't you hope that nothing changes because now, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Mean really literally, is that is that a Is that
a fireable offense in that company's view?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Is that like conduct detrimental kind of like that that?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Well, he's the CEO, so we don't know if he
hired her. Yeah, I mean, technically he'd be in charge
of the entire company.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
One would think I did see somewhere that he did
hire her.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I would not disclose, right if you're a data employee
as well, Yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Doesn't that video. I think you can date an employee.
You might not. You mightn't want to disclose it if
you're married, but I think you can. But I do
think most companies make you disclose, especially if it's in
you know, if one of the two people would find
themselves in a subordinate role, right, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, once again, both married, So you're not going to
announce that to the company that you're I'm currently married,
but we want to disclose to everybody that we're also
seeing each other.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You stay stuck on stupid. Do you not know you're
at a concert? What? What I mean? What in the
actual hell are you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Well?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But today, last thing on this because we actually have
some breaking news in the NBA I got to get
to but they there was a lot of reaction today
of like, you know, if you just would have played
it off, it just would have gone to the next
couple like this thing.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You would not be dealing with any Do you.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Play it off when you're in the middle of an
embrace and she's laying the top of her head in
you're esophagus.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm saying, it's not like in that moment, there's somebody
in the crowd going, Hey, isn't that the CEO of this?
You know, like it wouldn't have become famous if he
just if they just stood there, they smiled, they and
then they moved on.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Maybe five people in the crowd know in that moment,
and maybe something comes up it later on, maybe not
right there in the moment, it doesn't blow up right
there and become this massive rival crip clip like in
the moment because you're ducking and it's covering the face.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I see what you're saying, right, Yeah, I thought he
fell off the back of something. He went down so quickly.
I'm like, that dude jumped off the back of the rail. No,
I just thought he saw his wife.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The memes today like the guy walking to his ride
share because he has to go walking through.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The crowd to try to get out of that place.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, So anyways, I certainly listen all that being said,
I do feel for the families rights because those families
were probably going through hell today.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But boy, way to make yourself famous for absolutely the
wrong reasons. Yeah, we have some break news Damian Lillard
finalizing a three or forty two million dollar contract to
return to the Portland trail Blazers.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
That's an interesting move because there was much speculation that
he might go to Golden State.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He's always struck me as such a person that's so loyal,
Like I remember, even like a couple of years ago,
when when you finally the deal got done and he's
going to Milwaukee, right, It's it was I was sad
to see him go because like he stuck it out
right and it was like, hey, I'm going to be loyal,
and I'm I'm going to sit here and you know,
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form this big three in and sell out or do
what everybody else is doing in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So it's nice to for me.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's a little bittersweet here and he's going back to Portland.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Now, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Like that fit.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I think for Nuggets fans, just because we always have
to relate it back to ourselves for a moment. This
is about the best possible scenario, right, I mean, he's
not I don't believe Portland's contender.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean, do you think Portland.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Has any chance whatsoever of entering the mix of the
fray of being a postseason team anytime soon?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Oh? I think they might be able to claw into
the postseason, right, but I don't think they're a contender
to go very far. So, although John Cy's done a
pretty good job with the team.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, absolutely, it's more of a talent thing that they've
had a hard time. I mean they've been sort of
just trying to build through the draft for the last
several years and trying to acquire picks and draft pick
players or whatever. But if you'd gone to Golden State,
like if you'd have gone to a team that is
already you penciled them into the top six, that would
have felt a little different.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
My guess is, based on this move today, that Dame
has too much pride and it's been too great a player,
and it may view himself rightfully so as a great,
great player to go to Golden State. And in that scenario,
you're pretty much backing up Steph. I mean, I guess
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there might be times that he and Steph share of
the court. You got some real problems defensively if you
do that, because Dame is not a great defensive player. Yeah,
Steph actually has become, you know, I think, an above
average defender. But I think Dame would rather He's got
all the money in the world, his kids are in Portland,
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go back, finish his career and call it today.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Indeed, all right, rock.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
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What does the success of the twenty twenty five Broncos
season hinge on the most We'll get to a next.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Funny.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I listen. I was Shane Gillis fan, and I mean,
I've just seen some of his comedy stuff. He's very,
very subtle. His sense of humor is if you haven't
never seen him do a stand up. He's very dry
and probably not for for everybody, but I think he's
really he's really good. Uh yeah, I didn't. I didn't
hear that. I didn't hear that part of it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, we'll hear a couple more throughout.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I sent the stuff to Grant, but tell you that one,
that one was that one probably had the most legs
last night, like there was there was some of them
that there. Sanders won the Karl Anthony Towns one. I mean,
there's w n B A. Those all kind of had
their moments.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Well, the SGA line was good. Everybody's sitting around him
and now it's in foul trouble. I'm not sure SGA
loved it because the camera was on him, which.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is because he's been interviewed in the past and and
kind of leaned into that where he said, I'll oh,
I love it. I take as a badge of honor
that I earned these these foul calls, and it's like,
but you're right. The fook on his face was kind
of well, I don't know, maybe a little offended by that. Anyways,
we'll hear more from Shane Gillis. It was kind of funny.
There's some good stuff that happened last night. Five six
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Speaker 2 (22:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So I asked a question earlier today on Twitter. What
does the success of the twenty twenty five Broncos season
hinge on the most Step four for bon Nicks, the
defense staying elites, injury luck, or the free agents panning out?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And of course you can always add to this. People
talked about the run game, all those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
But Dave, all those four options, if you were presented
this poll, what would you vote on?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Book?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Give me the four options again, Step four for bon Nicks,
the defense staying elite, injury luck, or the free agents
panning out.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
So I get one of those four as being the
most crucial correct for the Broncos, yep, the success of
the season. I'm I'm going to take the injury one
because I think if the injury one. You know, go
our way goes the Broncos way, then I think bo
Knicks will take a step forward, right. I think the defenses,
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the defense is going to be just fine and added
a couple of pieces, I think they're going to be really,
really good. So yeah, I take injury.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, with what we've seen out of Vans Joseph and
how he's been able to put these young guys in
a great position to succeed, I mean, I don't even
really worry about this defense. I know it's going to
take another step forward with the players that were brought
in bow Knicks. I trust in this coaching staff. I
mean from week one and staring down wide receivers and
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telegraphing where you're going with the football to how we
finished up last season.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So for me, it's it's all about injuries. You know,
can you stay healthy because we all know that that
game day roster forty eight guys is up and that's slim,
and you get an injury at a key place and
your whole entire season outlooks has just changed because of it.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I see, I would voted with you too, Honestly, I
thought injury luck would have been. We finished second so
far on this at eighteen percent, was first both sixty
percent voted for Bonnicks.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, sixty percent. It makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's a quarterback driven league, all those things, the cliches.
But yeah, somebody in the comments extra response that you know,
if Bonicks just kind of does what he did in
the back half of the season or you know, in
stretches last season, I don't even know if he needs
to necessarily take a massive step forward.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
If he just does that, we're probably pretty good shape.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think the offense, I think it's more than just BO.
I think the offense has to be better. The offense,
the running game has to be better. I think the
entire offense. Now they scored more points, but I just
think I think the entire part of the team has
to be more efficient in what they do. Right. There
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are too many games where you're just struggling to game traction.
And I know, I mean, you're playing you know, you're
playing elite defenses from time to time. But I just think,
and I think they will be I like the addition
of Evan Ingram, I like the addition of JK. Dobbins. Like,
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here's my pushback to you Dave.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's like, because of Evan Ingram and because of like
last year, what we saw at a tight end position,
specifically right where this guy does these two things well,
so we have to have him on the play like
it was a lot more telegraph because now you have
that three down guy, don't you bank on like it
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just looking a lot better as a whole regardless, because
the quarterback's already showing that he has the capacity to
operate at a very high level at this in this league.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I think that's a good point. I mean, I think
Evan Ingram, you know, if you cans stay healthy, I
think he provides to me, he provides the best weapon
at tight end since Julius Thomas, right, I mean that,
and that goes I mean he played with you, Yeah,
it goes back a few years, no, fourteen.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean because even like after that is Owen Daniels,
and Owen was okay. Owen was a good player, you know,
but it really dropped. I mean, no offense, is he
a bus? Is he not? You know, those conversations. But
if Evan Ingram could come in here and play seventy
five percent of the snaps this year for the Broncos,
I mean, you're cooking with gas as offense because you
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just think about for me, it's like that third and
three to six where it's just becomes so much more
automatic clockwork. You're really putting stress on a defensive coordinator
and all eleven players on every team that you play,
because now it's like, how do we defend this? They
can run the ball, they could throw it, but bo
really is going to be able to play a lot
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faster from a time and perspective have having an epic group.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's kind of remarkable actually to think about how many
misses they've had at that position, right, and they've had
players that could serve a role like the Adam Troutman's
of the world, Like, hey, you can catch a few passes,
you're a really good blocker, you good all around tight end.
But to have an elite receiving tight end, well, who
else would you?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I mean, you'd have to say that Fant who was
the first round draft was a miss. I wouldn't call
him a bust, but he was a miss. But who
else would be a miss? For you?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You know, I think it's the list. I'm gonna try
to find that list really quick.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
While where I pulled it up at this game, gave
me every tight end for the Denver Ronco. So I
need to kind of dial this in a little bit.
I say, like, Greg Dulcich is kind of the first
thought that comes to mind.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's like where you tried, Like you tried that.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
He's in the miscategory for shit and it's a third
rounder that you think second, No, it was a third round.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Third yeah, because Nick Bonito is your your second gud.
That's right, Okay, So you tried.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I mean it wasn't like it was a throwaway pick
at the very end. I mean, no offense to case.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I well, do know what happened to him. I still
think so promised man can run. He's big. I just
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think at the end of the day, it's it's
the game of football is about can you When you
look at the tight end position, it's the hardest thing.
You're so involved in the run game, and you're so
involved in the passing game. And if you could find
a way to elevate both of those skills and be
a three down guy and where you're not just categorized.
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I think that's what happened with dulci where it's like, hey,
it's obvious passing situations and that's when we're going to
play him. He can't put his hands into there. We
can't rely on him to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I mean, you know Jake Butts and their guy injury
problems that had there as a fifth round or so
maybe a little bit of a different conversation, but that
they had high expectations for him.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
They kept a round. I don't think he's a miss though, Okay,
I mean I think he's more of a gamble at
two acls and surgery or had I mean in college
and then had another one here.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
How would you counter characterize Albert okawebenon it's a fourth rounder?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's yeah, I didn't think he was a great player.
So I think the question is you get you get
going to the draft, and at what point in the
draft if if somebody does not turn out to be
a great player, does it change from kid that's a
miss to well we took a flyer. Sure, I don't know,
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fourth round, maybe fifth round for sure, but.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I'd say i'd say fourth round because at the tight
end position, like I keep on going back, like it's everything,
like it's run game, it's past game, you got to
block bomb Miller off the edge and you know the
running back is going to insert and then sometimes you're
slid into protection, right and like so you really have
to be involved, and you know anything from first round,
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second round, third round, fourth round, If you can't be
that and be a productive guy where now you know,
you start pulling away and saying this guy's limited. And
I think that's what we've had a lot of at
the tight end position for the Broncos. That's been the
biggest struggle. So for me, I think the first four
rounds in the draft, like you're hoping that these guys
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can do everything or developed into a person that could
be a surfaceable in that role.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
That that's tough man, you know, it's a uh again.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I sort of I sort of feel for.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
The ancillary people in this situation, the families that are
going to be affected. But that's just one of those
moments where you cannot be that dumb, stuck on stupid
as you said. So I want to immensely thing we
were talking about with the tight ends last and the
previous segment. So when I said missing, it's not so
much of a like missing as in your what you
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thought you were getting, you never got. It's in the
league has become what it is where that's a mismatch
and everybody kind of knows that. And so if you
as an organization are still taking swings at tight ends
and it's not happening, that's more than miss, not not
like the individual players not panning out what you thought
they were. It's like, boy, you know you think that
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after that amount of time we talked about it. Hey,
you know, Noah Fan was the last real big swing.
Greg Dulcis was kind of the next one after that.
You know, you had the Eric Tomlinson and Salberts and
Okawe Banamas of the world, But organizationally, you haven't been
able to find that mismatch guy the way the rest
of the league seemingly has.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's the miss for me. And maybe they didn't try
as hard of that.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Maybe maybe that wasn't a focal point, but it just
feels like it would have been at this point until
now we have an ingram.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Well, I mean I think they tried no Fan first round, right, yeah,
oakwag Bunam fourth round or Dulcie third, So I think
they probably now I don't know think if that was
a point of emphasis. But I think when you don't,
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I don't know how many teams, how many teams have
that guy at tight end and you look around and
you say, no, we're good Raiders do. But he was
a first round draft choice and I think really thought
to be you know, can't miss guy brock Bauers. I mean,
the Chiefs Kelsey's this is probably going to be his
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last year. I mean, I think the Chiefs behind Kelsey
have serviceable guys. I don't know if they have the guy.
The Chargers, I'm trying to remember, they've kind of rolled
through some different tight end.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, they had Hunter Henry there for a little while.
He was kind of one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
He was acquired Patriots, Chargers drafted him, then he went
to the Patriots and free agency.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Okay, well, like you find guys like the Buffalo Bills,
like they drafted Dalton Kate a couple of years to
go and they still have still there.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, he's still there.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Okay. I wanted to drop the fourth down pass that
against the Chiefs, So that was Knox, wasn't I think
that was was that kind.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I'm spacing I think that might have might have been
whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, tried to forget it as well.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, well, Mark Andrews, I don't know what the.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Barre has been a really good player but had a
huge drop in a playoff game. So so some of
these things like the Bengals, oh they have I mean
you think that's a hit. I mean asking hey, verst
the Bronx because it was well because you know, initially
did a great job of making Joe Burrow go one,
two through, okay, check down. I mean Koseki caught like,
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I think five passes in the first half. I mean,
I think he's a good receiving tight end. He's not
going to thrill you with his blocking.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
David and Joku with the Browns, Pat friar Mouth with
the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Player good Friar Mooth is a good player too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
So again, I don't know if every team has it.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It just sort of feels like you would have fallen
into it if you eventually really wanted that position, or
it's otherwise a miss.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, I also think you know, you got to look
at the Broncos and what they were doing during that
time as well. Right, Russell Wilson, how much are you
using a tight end in the middle of the field
when you go get a guy like Russell Wilson thinking
about throwing on time and just ay third and six,
So that's probably not your plan, right. So I think
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the identity crisis of it and what we have had
at the quarterback position, the roller coaster, that kind of
plays a little bit into how you get these tight
ends and how do you even develop or are you
even trying, because now it's like, hey, we're not even
going to use this guy in this certain role.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
He's only going to be put in this situation.
Orlando Franklin in studio with us. What's so big?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Oh, welcome back, welcome back, welcome back. You know, it's
been a couple of weeks, Ryan, but you know, I
think I still know how to do this thing.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Yeah, you're a radio vet, you know, you know what
you're doing.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
But I'm just smelling all that new money, man, all
that new money. There's some brinch trucks were backed up
within the last twenty four hours. I love it, man,
love to see these young cats getting paid.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Today.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
It was a very very busy day in the NFL
with contracts being handed out, and the most recent one,
this is within the last hour, TJ Watt three years,
one hundred and twenty three million dollar contracts. He is
now the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
This is ridiculous. Oh my, just to rush the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Just get can you get a one sack of game
cover for seventeen games? Yeah, and you could get three years,
one hundred and what one hundred.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
And twenty three Oh my god, forty one per.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I wasn't even talking about that money, Ryan, I was
just talking about our guys. I was talking to the
the first round, in the second round, pick because I
saw the Harvey deal and I was like, whoa, look
at all that.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Money, and that's a good deal too, hey for a
second rounder that's your third year and getting nearly fifty
percent of your third year guaranteed.
Speaker 5 (01:12):
Too. Hey.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
I was picked forty six for the Broncos and my
deal looked like about almost half of that.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
So I was a little jealous when I saw it
come out a couple of hours ago.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
I thought of you, because I was I knew we
had you in.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
I was like, you know, Orlando is the second rounder,
and you know, Harvey's actually picked later. He's picked sixty,
so he's going to make you know, especially into his
third year, which is going to be basically half of
it guaranteed. I know, I wondered how you'd feel, as
a former second round pick about that.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean, I'll tell you this, I absolutely love seeing
cats get paid right, you know, generational wealth. If a
Harvey is only placed three and a half years, if
he manages it the right way, has a good team.
You know, it seems like he has a great head
on his shoulders. You know, he could do something and
used that as a great springboard and and never really
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have to work for the rest of his life. So
I always love to see that. But there's a small
like maybe like fifteen twenty percent of me.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
That's a little salty.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Would you see the money that gets thrown out around
nowadays in the NFL?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
And then like man, I could have held out a
couple more years.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Maybe it is silly, sees a Dave log and my friend,
how are all.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
It's good to see both of you.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Good to see you as well. We were just talking
about not only RJ. Harvey's contract, which is finally done.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I knew it would get done, just maybe a little
bit later than a lot of people wanted.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
But yeah, TJ.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Watt one hundred and twenty three three year, one hundred
and twenty three million, one hundred and eight fully guaranteed.
He's now the highest paid non quarterback in NFL history.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, I think I believe he's led the NFL and
sacks the last five years he's averaged I think I
think fifteen sacks a year. Is that right?
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I thought that's about Yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I think that's right. And it just it goes to
show you the premium the teams put on difference makers
on their team right, quarterbacks are difference makers. There are
you know, a handful of minus a few fingers of
difference makers as receivers, edge pass rushers. There are a
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couple of handfuls maybe minus a couple of fingers of
difference makers in that category, you know, left tackles. I
mean a lot of guys in the league. I mean
guys playing the league are good players. But then there
are the difference makers that and those guys are those
guys are gonna get paid there. I love how you
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talk about difference makers because I remember when I was
what the Broncos we call the like.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Game wreckers, right yep. And you'll look at some guys
like you look at TJ. And he's forty one a
year now, right, one hundred and twenty three, three years.
It's an unbelievable contract and it's great and you reset
the market and you do something.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Well.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
He is a game wreckerd. He is right where you know.
When I played for the Bronco with Rob Nick and Bitch,
he was like my kryptonite New England Patriots outside linebacker.
I would have seventy plays against him and I would
dominate him for sixty nine of those plays. And for
my first four games against him, I gave up a
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second all four games. And it's not like you're you're
sitting there and it's like you're stressed down and you're
straining every single play you're fairly getting no Like literally
I have plays where I'm picking scooping them up, driving
him five yards back and dumping them like and literally
like selling out and and but just one play he's
a slippery and he gets me. He just gets back
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there like so that like he made.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
A great career and bring a player.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Oh yeah, yeah, yes, really good putting.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But when you look at like, I know why TJ
Wat's getting this deal because it's like you're turning.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
The protection to him.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You're focused on him every single play, and yet he's
still making a difference when sometimes there's not a lot
around him.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
And that's what you deserve. That type of contract. It was.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
It was a deal where I think we all sort
of expected it, Like I'm not surprised that t J.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Watt got a deal done.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It just was one of those often times, in the
absence of information, sometimes people create narratives, right, And in
the absence of t J Wat getting his contract and
it's been months. I think was what February when Miles
Garrett got his deal, and you know, I'm an all
off season has been like okay, well the Steelers consider
trading him. There was rumors float around about a possible trade.
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Teams were calling the Pittsburgh Steelers in the n T. J.
Watt is, he's Pittsburgh Royalty at this point, and you
just said it.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
He's a game wrecker, he's he's a difference maker in
this league.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And it's it's much to do about nothing in a
lot of ways, which sometimes happens in this business because
we have to talk about something, don't we do every
single day?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
We had talked about something, I said, Dave, but I
I flubbed the A.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
So what did you come up?
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I have no idea?
Speaker 4 (05:50):
What do Dove?
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (05:55):
No, I think I think everybody.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Yes, I listen.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
I was just try I want to make sure you
didn't swear. I mean, I was like, what did you
just call me a? What? No? Like that?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Like the Doug the same for like the Ryan and
Brian thing, Like you know how Ryan's and Brian's get
really offended? Does the Daves get really offended? If you
guys get called doug by accident.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
No no, no, no, you've probably da teammates, but Ryan
and Brian are like arch enemies. I think I think
that I think it's pretty clear Pittsburgh with what they've
done at quarterback. I mean, they're all in this year.
This is a big year for Mike Tomlin, big year
for the Steelers, and there's just no way you could
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you could send the message to your locker room that
we're all in. This is a big year for us.
And oh, by the way, we just traded t J. Watt, right,
and there's no way you could do it. So it's
just I mean, it's amazing. I'm happy for guys money wise,
I really am. But it's amazing to me how quickly
when you think of forty one million dollars a year,
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it wasn't seemingly wasn't that long ago where I was
like your salary cap when you were in the league,
right like that too, that was like that paid for
the entire AFC North. I think I think the entire
four teams rosters was under forty one million dollars. But
I think I think if if you look at how
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quickly the salaries have gone up, It wasn't that long
ago where if a quarterback got like forty million, forty
one million, we were like astounded. Not long ago, the
elite quarterbacks were making like twenty five and you're thinking, damn,
they's making twenty five million dollars a year. Right now,
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It's it's way up there.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's way up there, no doubt about that speed of
edge rushers.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
By the way, last night we got some news von
Miller I be playing with the Washington Commanders. With the
Broncos are going to see Washington Commanders this season, and
so we'll get a chance to see von Miller back
out there like we saw him in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Uh, playing with the Buffalo Bills. I don't know, man, It's.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Going to be impossible for me, regardless of how much
longer Von Miller plays in this league, to root against him.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I can't now getting that game.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
I think it's kind of like see as you see
you things, like, you know, hey, have a great career season,
whatever you end up doing the rest of this time.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
That one game though not not today, but otherwise I
am such a big fan.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I think that the.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Way Vaughn embraced Denver and what he's brought to the
city and and it's all the dominoes that happened after that,
you know, like that defense was so good and so
young and and being you know, mentored by guys like
Elvis Duomerville, and then the Marcus were coming and Peyton
coming with a young offensive line, Like you know, that's
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really when it kind of turned.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So I'm right there. I will always be a Von
Miller fan.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
And when I saw that news, I was like, Yes,
he's going to a team where he's not going to
have to play forty plus snaps a game, Like he's
going to be a twenty to twenty five snap a
game guy out there in Washington. And it's a contender, right,
It's about, you know, can you get some hardware at
the end of the day. Right, that's why you're still playing.
You're not playing for your bank account at this point.
(09:17):
I mean, you've already won the Super Bowl, You've already
been an MVP, so I would think that it still
matters of championships and can you get there and win
another one.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
The other thing that happened last night, and we're not
going to break down the SP's by any stretch of
the imagination, but our guy should or Sanders got to
throw it under the bus a little bit in the
opening monologue.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Here's what it sounds like.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Shore Sanders had his jersey number retired to Colorado this year,
and people are saying it's because of nepotism, because of
his father, and it's not. It's because he went thirteen
and twelve over his career and he almost won the
Alamo Bowl.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Definitely not nepotism, right, all right, Shane.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Gillis, you know, do you watch any of.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
The clips from Shane Gillis last year?
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Actually watched some of the show. I mean there there
there were some, There were some good there.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Were some good one lighters.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
It's a political humor in there that will just let
people find on their own.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Now, if I'm Karl Anthony Towns, oh boy, I'm probably
looking for Shane Dillis for the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's like girl, the Hey Girl, Yeah, Hey girl, Okay,
it's a w n B. A joke like that did
not do well either.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I think the w n B A joke was was
one of his best jokes. Was introduced the girl Yes, Yes,
and everybody said, everybody, what do we have it?
Speaker 3 (10:40):
We we could we could find it, but yeah where
He's like, dogs.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Round of applause for it. I can't remember the name
uh star in the w n B A, and everybody's applause.
He said, I'm just kidding. That's my that's my one
of my best friend's wives. I knew. I knew nobody
here could pick out any of the w n B
A players. I mean, I thought you didn't think that
was funny.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I thought it was very funny.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
It just it's it's fascinating to watch these things, like
because you're watching it and then watching it being reacted
to on social media, and those are two different things.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
But there was a lot of people really upset about that.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Those jokes like I'm asking for a friend. Yeah. What
were they upset about with the w NBA joke?
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Well, I think a lot of it was more projection
because ESPN has been.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
So heavy on w NBA.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yes, they had, and so they're like, oh boy, I
bet ESPN's freaking out about, you know, taking shots at
the w n B A.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
ESPN wrote his jokes. You understand that, right, I Mean
he alluded to it twice, like I didn't really want
to do this one. You know, there were a couple
that you you know, I cringed a little bit, like, oh,
I wonder how that's going.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
To play the UFC on the White House lawn.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Hear that. I didn't see that one. Oh man, no good, No,
it was very good.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Just you know, borderline political.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
You say that in today's society, it was.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
It was political. It was uh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We will try to find that one too. It was
it was a joke about January sixth. I'll just say that.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Oh okay, okay, yeah, yeah, I didn't. I didn't see
that one. I mean I didn't. I sat there, watched
a little bit, flipped away, came back, watched a little bit,
you know.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Watched the first fifteen twenty minutes and I was out.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
I saw nothing. Russell's presentation, yes, yeah, it was, you know,
he did a nicely. I'll be always just show there's
just nothing on, like, well that's that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Though.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Your WNBA is on how did you do last night?
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And showing the money. I split my first w NBA
loss of my career. I didn't sweep my but it
took three games before I didn't sweep in a w
NBA game. And I'm proud of it?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Are you losing your edge?
Speaker 4 (12:48):
Well, a little bit more homework there day.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Apparently, Well, at least you didn't have as bad enough
as bad of a night as the couple of the
Coldplay concert.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Oh my, I saw that. So I was based on
the reaction. Both of them are married.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Correct, Oh boy, yeah, because you know how the internet is.
Is as soon as they were identified and if you
haven't seen this, oh it's I mean, is something so
last night in a cold Play concert, they're doing the
like a kiss cameraor a couple camera there Chris Martin,
the least singer of cold Play. This is going around
the crowd and they get onto this couple who are
(13:25):
up in a.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Suite and the guy's holding a girl.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
She's standing in front of me, in front of him,
leaning back, I would say, adoringly, exactly into his chest.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
As soon as the camera gets.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
On them, Bro ducks down and crawls out of the
You don't see him ever again.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
Oh he dropped her seriously, like like like she was
two hundred degrees and she.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Turned around and covered her face.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Yeah, and then apparently there's a galle that was just
to the right and she's also with that company, and
apparently he's a CEO of this giant company.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Was last night, was to see the CEO today and she's.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
The head of hr O.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
She's the head of hr Yes.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Well, I'm glad we're able to clear that up. I
just thought she was, you know, maybe the main chick,
maybe the on the side. I don't know, you girlfriend
number two.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
But Chris Martin, he's like, either they're very shy or
we just caught people an adult tree having an affair.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
So yeah, so somebody will follow up on that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well of course it is because the internet does what
they do, and so immediately everybody found his wife on
Facebook and started sharing that video. Oh oh so she
scrubbed his name off of her profile. Oh boy, so
like the internet works fast.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
I do not know, because she's married to the woman
in the video. I do not know what's going on
with her. But I couldn't help it today, you just
follow along.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It was I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
It was actually for all the awfulness that often tends
to happen on social media these days.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Well, let's you know, we we basically the world gambles
on everything, right, there's a line on everything, due they
were in such they were in a like a happy place.
So let's let's say, right now, does he does he
retain his job as CEO of whatever company is? Does
(15:27):
she retain her job as the head of HR? So
is that we're hoping? So yeah, well maybe one of
the spouses might want to get paid, so not sure.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
But if you wouldn't you hope that nothing changes because now, yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
Mean really literally, is that is that a Is that
a fireable offense in that company's view?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Is that like conduct detrimental kind of like that that?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Well, he's the CEO, so we don't know if he
hired her. Yeah, I mean, technically he'd be in charge
of the entire company.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
One would think I did see somewhere that he did
hire her.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
I would not disclose, right if you're a data employee
as well, Yeah, it.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Doesn't that video. I think you can date an employee.
You might not. You mightn't want to disclose it if
you're married, but I think you can. But I do
think most companies make you disclose, especially if it's in
you know, if one of the two people would find
themselves in a subordinate role, right, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, once again, both married, So you're not going to
announce that to the company that you're I'm currently married,
but we want to disclose to everybody that we're also
seeing each other.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You stay stuck on stupid. Do you not know you're
at a concert? What? What I mean? What in the
actual hell are you doing?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Well?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
But today, last thing on this because we actually have
some breaking news in the NBA I got to get
to but they there was a lot of reaction today
of like, you know, if you just would have played
it off, it just would have gone to the next
couple like this thing.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
You would not be dealing with any Do you.
Speaker 4 (17:10):
Play it off when you're in the middle of an
embrace and she's laying the top of her head in
you're esophagus.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
I'm saying, it's not like in that moment, there's somebody
in the crowd going, Hey, isn't that the CEO of this?
You know, like it wouldn't have become famous if he
just if they just stood there, they smiled, they and
then they moved on.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
Maybe five people in the crowd know in that moment,
and maybe something comes up it later on, maybe not
right there in the moment, it doesn't blow up right
there and become this massive rival crip clip like in
the moment because you're ducking and it's covering the face.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
I see what you're saying, right, Yeah, I thought he
fell off the back of something. He went down so quickly.
I'm like, that dude jumped off the back of the rail. No,
I just thought he saw his wife.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
The memes today like the guy walking to his ride
share because he has to go walking through.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
The crowd to try to get out of that place.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, So anyways, I certainly listen all that being said,
I do feel for the families rights because those families
were probably going through hell today.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
But boy, way to make yourself famous for absolutely the
wrong reasons. Yeah, we have some break news Damian Lillard
finalizing a three or forty two million dollar contract to
return to the Portland trail Blazers.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
That's an interesting move because there was much speculation that
he might go to Golden State.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
He's always struck me as such a person that's so loyal,
Like I remember, even like a couple of years ago,
when when you finally the deal got done and he's
going to Milwaukee, right, It's it was I was sad
to see him go because like he stuck it out
right and it was like, hey, I'm going to be loyal,
and I'm I'm going to sit here and you know,
(19:01):
form this big three in and sell out or do
what everybody else is doing in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
So it's nice to for me.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
It's a little bittersweet here and he's going back to Portland.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Now, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Like that fit.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
I think for Nuggets fans, just because we always have
to relate it back to ourselves for a moment. This
is about the best possible scenario, right, I mean, he's
not I don't believe Portland's contender.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I mean, do you think Portland.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Has any chance whatsoever of entering the mix of the
fray of being a postseason team anytime soon?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Oh? I think they might be able to claw into
the postseason, right, but I don't think they're a contender
to go very far. So, although John Cy's done a
pretty good job with the team.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Yeah, absolutely, it's more of a talent thing that they've
had a hard time. I mean they've been sort of
just trying to build through the draft for the last
several years and trying to acquire picks and draft pick
players or whatever. But if you'd gone to Golden State,
like if you'd have gone to a team that is
already you penciled them into the top six, that would
have felt a little different.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
My guess is, based on this move today, that Dame
has too much pride and it's been too great a player,
and it may view himself rightfully so as a great,
great player to go to Golden State. And in that scenario,
you're pretty much backing up Steph. I mean, I guess
(20:22):
there might be times that he and Steph share of
the court. You got some real problems defensively if you
do that, because Dame is not a great defensive player. Yeah,
Steph actually has become, you know, I think, an above
average defender. But I think Dame would rather He's got
all the money in the world, his kids are in Portland,
(20:43):
go back, finish his career and call it today.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Indeed, all right, rock.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
And rolling here on Thursday five six six nine zeros
Kawa Commas Bird Health text line. All sorts of great
things to get to on the other side, including a
poll question we're running right now at our average radio.
What does the success of the twenty twenty five Broncos
season hinge on the most We'll get to a next.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Funny.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
I listen. I was Shane Gillis fan, and I mean,
I've just seen some of his comedy stuff. He's very,
very subtle. His sense of humor is if you haven't
never seen him do a stand up. He's very dry
and probably not for for everybody, but I think he's
really he's really good. Uh yeah, I didn't. I didn't
hear that. I didn't hear that part of it.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, we'll hear a couple more throughout.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I sent the stuff to Grant, but tell you that one,
that one was that one probably had the most legs
last night, like there was there was some of them
that there. Sanders won the Karl Anthony Towns one. I mean,
there's w n B A. Those all kind of had
their moments.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Well, the SGA line was good. Everybody's sitting around him
and now it's in foul trouble. I'm not sure SGA
loved it because the camera was on him, which.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
Is because he's been interviewed in the past and and
kind of leaned into that where he said, I'll oh,
I love it. I take as a badge of honor
that I earned these these foul calls, and it's like,
but you're right. The fook on his face was kind
of well, I don't know, maybe a little offended by that. Anyways,
we'll hear more from Shane Gillis. It was kind of funny.
There's some good stuff that happened last night. Five six
six nights or a koa comment spirit health text line.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
So I asked a question earlier today on Twitter. What
does the success of the twenty twenty five Broncos season
hinge on the most Step four for bon Nicks, the
defense staying elites, injury luck, or the free agents panning out?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
And of course you can always add to this. People
talked about the run game, all those kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
But Dave, all those four options, if you were presented
this poll, what would you vote on?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Book?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Give me the four options again, Step four for bon Nicks,
the defense staying elite, injury luck, or the free agents
panning out.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
So I get one of those four as being the
most crucial correct for the Broncos, yep, the success of
the season. I'm I'm going to take the injury one
because I think if the injury one. You know, go
our way goes the Broncos way, then I think bo
Knicks will take a step forward, right. I think the defenses,
(23:07):
the defense is going to be just fine and added
a couple of pieces, I think they're going to be really,
really good. So yeah, I take injury.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, with what we've seen out of Vans Joseph and
how he's been able to put these young guys in
a great position to succeed, I mean, I don't even
really worry about this defense. I know it's going to
take another step forward with the players that were brought
in bow Knicks. I trust in this coaching staff. I
mean from week one and staring down wide receivers and
(23:38):
telegraphing where you're going with the football to how we
finished up last season.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
You know.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
So for me, it's it's all about injuries. You know,
can you stay healthy because we all know that that
game day roster forty eight guys is up and that's slim,
and you get an injury at a key place and
your whole entire season outlooks has just changed because of it.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
I see, I would voted with you too, Honestly, I
thought injury luck would have been. We finished second so
far on this at eighteen percent, was first both sixty
percent voted for Bonnicks.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
Yeah, sixty percent. It makes sense.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
It's a quarterback driven league, all those things, the cliches.
But yeah, somebody in the comments extra response that you know,
if Bonicks just kind of does what he did in
the back half of the season or you know, in
stretches last season, I don't even know if he needs
to necessarily take a massive step forward.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
If he just does that, we're probably pretty good shape.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
I think the offense, I think it's more than just BO.
I think the offense has to be better. The offense,
the running game has to be better. I think the
entire offense. Now they scored more points, but I just
think I think the entire part of the team has
to be more efficient in what they do. Right. There
(24:55):
are too many games where you're just struggling to game traction.
And I know, I mean, you're playing you know, you're
playing elite defenses from time to time. But I just think,
and I think they will be I like the addition
of Evan Ingram, I like the addition of JK. Dobbins. Like,
(25:15):
here's my pushback to you Dave.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
It's like, because of Evan Ingram and because of like
last year, what we saw at a tight end position,
specifically right where this guy does these two things well,
so we have to have him on the play like
it was a lot more telegraph because now you have
that three down guy, don't you bank on like it
(25:37):
just looking a lot better as a whole regardless, because
the quarterback's already showing that he has the capacity to
operate at a very high level at this in this league.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
I think that's a good point. I mean, I think
Evan Ingram, you know, if you cans stay healthy, I
think he provides to me, he provides the best weapon
at tight end since Julius Thomas, right, I mean that,
and that goes I mean he played with you, Yeah,
it goes back a few years, no, fourteen.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
I mean because even like after that is Owen Daniels,
and Owen was okay. Owen was a good player, you know,
but it really dropped. I mean, no offense, is he
a bus? Is he not? You know, those conversations. But
if Evan Ingram could come in here and play seventy
five percent of the snaps this year for the Broncos,
I mean, you're cooking with gas as offense because you
(26:30):
just think about for me, it's like that third and
three to six where it's just becomes so much more
automatic clockwork. You're really putting stress on a defensive coordinator
and all eleven players on every team that you play,
because now it's like, how do we defend this? They
can run the ball, they could throw it, but bo
really is going to be able to play a lot
(26:51):
faster from a time and perspective have having an epic group.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's kind of remarkable actually to think about how many
misses they've had at that position, right, and they've had
players that could serve a role like the Adam Troutman's
of the world, Like, hey, you can catch a few passes,
you're a really good blocker, you good all around tight end.
But to have an elite receiving tight end, well, who
else would you?
Speaker 4 (27:13):
I mean, you'd have to say that Fant who was
the first round draft was a miss. I wouldn't call
him a bust, but he was a miss. But who
else would be a miss? For you?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
You know, I think it's the list. I'm gonna try
to find that list really quick.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
While where I pulled it up at this game, gave
me every tight end for the Denver Ronco. So I
need to kind of dial this in a little bit.
I say, like, Greg Dulcich is kind of the first
thought that comes to mind.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
It's like where you tried, Like you tried that.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
He's in the miscategory for shit and it's a third
rounder that you think second, No, it was a third round.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Third yeah, because Nick Bonito is your your second gud.
That's right, Okay, So you tried.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
I mean it wasn't like it was a throwaway pick
at the very end. I mean, no offense to case.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
I well, do know what happened to him. I still
think so promised man can run. He's big. I just
don't know.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
I think at the end of the day, it's it's
the game of football is about can you When you
look at the tight end position, it's the hardest thing.
You're so involved in the run game, and you're so
involved in the passing game. And if you could find
a way to elevate both of those skills and be
a three down guy and where you're not just categorized.
(28:22):
I think that's what happened with dulci where it's like, hey,
it's obvious passing situations and that's when we're going to
play him. He can't put his hands into there. We
can't rely on him to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
I mean, you know Jake Butts and their guy injury
problems that had there as a fifth round or so
maybe a little bit of a different conversation, but that
they had high expectations for him.
Speaker 4 (28:40):
They kept a round. I don't think he's a miss though, Okay,
I mean I think he's more of a gamble at
two acls and surgery or had I mean in college
and then had another one here.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
How would you counter characterize Albert okawebenon it's a fourth rounder?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's yeah, I didn't think he was a great player.
So I think the question is you get you get
going to the draft, and at what point in the
draft if if somebody does not turn out to be
a great player, does it change from kid that's a
miss to well we took a flyer. Sure, I don't know,
(29:20):
fourth round, maybe fifth round for sure, but.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
I'd say i'd say fourth round because at the tight
end position, like I keep on going back, like it's everything,
like it's run game, it's past game, you got to
block bomb Miller off the edge and you know the
running back is going to insert and then sometimes you're
slid into protection, right and like so you really have
to be involved, and you know anything from first round,
(29:47):
second round, third round, fourth round, If you can't be
that and be a productive guy where now you know,
you start pulling away and saying this guy's limited. And
I think that's what we've had a lot of at
the tight end position for the Broncos. That's been the
biggest struggle. So for me, I think the first four
rounds in the draft, like you're hoping that these guys
(30:09):
can do everything or developed into a person that could
be a surfaceable in that role.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
That that's tough man, you know, it's a uh again.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
I sort of I sort of feel for.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
The ancillary people in this situation, the families that are
going to be affected. But that's just one of those
moments where you cannot be that dumb, stuck on stupid
as you said. So I want to immensely thing we
were talking about with the tight ends last and the
previous segment. So when I said missing, it's not so
much of a like missing as in your what you
(30:53):
thought you were getting, you never got. It's in the
league has become what it is where that's a mismatch
and everybody kind of knows that. And so if you
as an organization are still taking swings at tight ends
and it's not happening, that's more than miss, not not
like the individual players not panning out what you thought
they were. It's like, boy, you know you think that
(31:13):
after that amount of time we talked about it. Hey,
you know, Noah Fan was the last real big swing.
Greg Dulcis was kind of the next one after that.
You know, you had the Eric Tomlinson and Salberts and
Okawe Banamas of the world, But organizationally, you haven't been
able to find that mismatch guy the way the rest
of the league seemingly has.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
That's the miss for me. And maybe they didn't try
as hard of that.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Maybe maybe that wasn't a focal point, but it just
feels like it would have been at this point until
now we have an ingram.
Speaker 4 (31:42):
Well, I mean I think they tried no Fan first round, right, yeah,
oakwag Bunam fourth round or Dulcie third, So I think
they probably now I don't know think if that was
a point of emphasis. But I think when you don't,
(32:06):
I don't know how many teams, how many teams have
that guy at tight end and you look around and
you say, no, we're good Raiders do. But he was
a first round draft choice and I think really thought
to be you know, can't miss guy brock Bauers. I mean,
the Chiefs Kelsey's this is probably going to be his
(32:27):
last year. I mean, I think the Chiefs behind Kelsey
have serviceable guys. I don't know if they have the guy.
The Chargers, I'm trying to remember, they've kind of rolled
through some different tight end.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, they had Hunter Henry there for a little while.
He was kind of one of those guys.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
He was acquired Patriots, Chargers drafted him, then he went
to the Patriots and free agency.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Okay, well, like you find guys like the Buffalo Bills,
like they drafted Dalton Kate a couple of years to
go and they still have still there.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
Yeah, he's still there.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Okay. I wanted to drop the fourth down pass that
against the Chiefs, So that was Knox, wasn't I think
that was was that kind.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
I'm spacing I think that might have might have been
whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
Yeah, tried to forget it as well.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Yeah, well, Mark Andrews, I don't know what the.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Barre has been a really good player but had a
huge drop in a playoff game. So so some of
these things like the Bengals, oh they have I mean
you think that's a hit. I mean asking hey, verst
the Bronx because it was well because you know, initially
did a great job of making Joe Burrow go one,
two through, okay, check down. I mean Koseki caught like,
(33:41):
I think five passes in the first half. I mean,
I think he's a good receiving tight end. He's not
going to thrill you with his blocking.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
David and Joku with the Browns, Pat friar Mouth with
the Steelers.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Player good Friar Mooth is a good player too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
So again, I don't know if every team has it.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It just sort of feels like you would have fallen
into it if you eventually really wanted that position, or
it's otherwise a miss.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Right.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, I also think you know, you got to look
at the Broncos and what they were doing during that
time as well. Right, Russell Wilson, how much are you
using a tight end in the middle of the field
when you go get a guy like Russell Wilson thinking
about throwing on time and just ay third and six,
So that's probably not your plan, right. So I think
(34:26):
the identity crisis of it and what we have had
at the quarterback position, the roller coaster, that kind of
plays a little bit into how you get these tight
ends and how do you even develop or are you
even trying, because now it's like, hey, we're not even
going to use this guy in this certain role.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
He's only going to be put in this situation.
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